Is there any huge difference between ace pro and ace especially when it comes to low light videos? because price of Ace only is cheaper than pro. Need a quick suggestion. Thanks.
Low light looks better in the Insta for sure, I also notice the lens cover must not have a hydrophobic coating as the water sticks to it. Looks like they didn't learn from the GoPro 8 flaw, the lens cover HAS to be replaceable! This is an action cam!
It dissipates heat from under as well, lying it around, no moving air and filming is not the main thing to do with action cams. I had mine inside and outside of the car in Japan last summer and never had it overheat. If there is airflow whatsoever it should not overheat that easily. If you take timelapses it never overheats on those, had mine on a yard all day in blazing heat in Japan with external power taking timelapse.
Yes, but this one has an F2.6 vs F3.2 on the ONE R. Aperture makes a big difference too. 1/3 inch is not small by any means. Although it would've been super nice to get that 1inch sensor in this with F2.6 aperture.
Very very enthused, potential and probable game changer here, as a motovlogger who's been DJI loyal for two action cameras , I can already see this as being a trade up. Really productive and informative . Keen to see more ! 👍
The flip-up screen on an action camera? Not for me. If I need one for vlogging or similar purposes, the Osmo Pocket 3 is the best choice. I still favor the Osmo Action 4 for its price: better value, battery life, usability, bundled packs like the adventure combo, superior waterproofing (18m on OA4 vs. 10m on Ace Pro), and image quality, which is on par or even better in some instances with the same sensor size. The AI features on Ace Pro didn't impress me much, I also trust DJI updating firmwares and adding similar AI software features to the OA4. However, I am excited and keeping an eye out for the Insta360 One X4, which might come with a better sensor (1/1.3 inch) similar to the Ace Pro, higher resolution 360 video, and other exciting features.
The DJI Action 4 adventure combo is certainly money for value! This Ace Pro if we add all the accessories such as spare battery, charging device, Quick Reader, Multi-Mount, etc I estimate $200+ on top of the basic unit cost. That's a deal breaker for some folks.
No replaceable lens cover on the ace pro has me disappointed 😔 I can’t be the only person who’s scratched a GoPro lens. Seeing a pre production unit with removable lens on the ace pro makes me think it’s a money grab. GoPro 8 vibes
Yeah I'm confused I don't even see a case available. But it's marketed for motorcycles and action in general. If you ride dirt bikes you're gonna crash so then what??
Obviously there is no need for removable lens, if you crash with this camera the flip screen would be torn so you have to send it in for repair anyways.
Are you sure you didn't turn something off from the Go Pro camera? That was a huge difference between the two. Looks like the Gopro was in a crying mode or sth. I might think you turn off sth on the Gopro.
I have to say... your videos are really good! You're great with the camera too! Loving these videos, and you're the reason why I'm a happy owner of the XReal Air and XBeam.
Thats all nice and sweet but what about this flip screen,how durable will be after years,what about lense that you cant change on action camera,what about overheating,what about software gliches,why is it missing 10-bit colors,why the view is not so wide?That is info what we want to know
no replaceable lens = no sale ! insta- you should have learned this from the x x2 and x3 comments, but you still aren't using replaceable lenses ? come on !
Why didn't you compare it with dji action 4 ? Especially in low light vs go pro it doesn't really say anything as everyone knows that go pro sucks. But weirdly enough, go pro with HDR at night performs better than without HDR
The camera doesn’t have the AI warp feature because the processor isn’t good enough and is entirely app based. You also have to pay for it after 3 months, but they dont put that in the ad
Thanks for the introduction to the Ace Pro. I had no idea about this camera coming out. Yeah, so far the video quality samples looks like it's on par with GoPro and better than Action 4. I like the overheating test. I'll be honest, getting a free camera introduces a bit of questioning. Overheating or glitching, anyone else know or have experience in regards to it? But sounds like a very good action camera that pulls interest towards casual users like myself. But do appreciate the well detailed overview of this new action camera. Thanks!
Hey man! I’ve been having a huge problem with my ace pro- flickering. At 60Hz 4k 24 ss-literally anything I get this awful flicker in my video which totally takes away from my shots. Any suggestions why? Great video!
Be interested so see how it goes on a Motorbike when mounted to the top triple. Wonder if the quick release mount causes the image stabilisation to have issues.
All I want is an action camera that allows me to record external audio in the rain! Why is it too much to ask? What use is a waterproof action camera that can't record sound in the rain? OK, so the internal mics can allow me to record distorted wind noise in the rain but I just want to record a simple external stereo and the camera to remain waterproof.
call me old school. are the flip screens durable enough to handle crashes? Fast charging and no overheating is the thing. GoPro is on the doorstep now.
It's so bad that I still only know GoPro, and always feel like I'm an inexperienced camera user. For me, GoPro is still good and perfect, because they still keep the best they can do and sell small improvements. Hopefully next year Gopro will innovate or be crushed!
@@LetoDK I know that, I just don't have the conditions to own them. But I feel GoPro still has authenticity in the images. For me, the GoPro captures the same image as the eye sees, and the sound recording ability is also excellent.
Is there any huge difference between ace pro and ace especially when it comes to low light video? because price of Ace only is cheaper than pro. Need a quick suggestion. Thanks.
Great video thank you. Quick question - as a UK vlogger why don’t you shoot in 25 or 50 fps? I notice you were recording in 30 or 60fps, which I understood is the US NTSC standard. I’m a UK RUclipsr and always shoot in 25 fps, should I change to 30 or 60? TIA.
All paid reviewer do not talk that Insta360 is heavier than GoPro 12. On a helmet (they are action cameras, isn't it?) it matters. Insta360 has not "open gate" that is very useful in reframing in post. Another important thing in action video. I think THE MONEY makes those "reviews" so enthusiastic.
Gopro 12 low light action videos are mostly unusable so this is enough reason to consider this camera BUT I hope the production model has removable lens cover, Gopro learned from same mistake 4 years ago.
Would it also be suitable for double duty as a Vogging camera in an office setting? Is the audio OK or is a separate microphone necessary or desirable if there is distance between the camera and the subject?
From all the early reviews I watched today, it seems like you guys received a different version compared to the one Insta360 is promoting commercially. On their website, they show the 8k capabilities, and none of you mentioned it, which is quite surprising!
I've read this from a lot of reviews that were posted online today: "At the time of testing, the 8K hardware wasn’t supported by the firmware so I wasn’t able to see the results, but the very fact that this feature will be available is impressive, and we're looking forward to testing the 8K video mode when it's available for our full and in-depth review."
They should be making a mini version of it, without the screen. You don't really need a screen if your doing actual "action". Will be cheaper, more pragmatic and durable. Thanks for the review 🙏
hello @Thetechcap can the ace pro do a continuous recording of 4k 30 mode more than 2 hours in case I am planning to try this as a sort of dashcam for travel videos. The older models or other same genre cameras do stop recording after a certain time. as for the 4k 60 i have experience with insta 360 one r that its stops recording or cuts into another recording session around 25 minutes to 30 minutes.
Any chance you could check the LRV files and let us know the resolution and frame rate? Most importantly, does the LRV frame rate match the frame rate of the main video file? On previous insta360 cameras the LRV files have a lower frame rate (14.98fps) which makes them useless for using as proxy files for editing. Gopro & DJI cameras use a matching frame rate for their LRV files, so they can be used as proxies for editing. To check the frame rate & resolution you just need to rename the LRV file from .lrv to .mp4 and then it will work like a normal video file. Thanks in advance!
Wow the video quality looks fantastic, first thing if buying would have to be screen protector protection and or a case, let’s hope that they bring out replaceable lens covers, if Go pro can do then so should insta be able to 🤔🤔🤔 live the flip out screen, this is going sell like hot cakes 😎🤩
Why didn't you talk about the down sides ??? Every product has good and bad points, or is this just an advert ? Flippy screen bad idea for a rugged action cam, fixed lens cover, bad colour space, performance in cold weather to be seen, external audio? Would have been better to compare with DJI action 4
So, losing the modular design mans losing me as a customer. I'll stick with my One RS for a while, with the 1" mod, and the 360 mod and the 4K boost mod, then. The non-replaceable lens is ridiculous. They learned nothing from GP's error with the GP8, then? This video is like watching the shopping channel, just a shameless plug for Insta360.
I don't think anything beats their preview go 3 model with the detachable "pill" camera. That thing is so damn cute and functional, needs to be a follow up.
I will watch to see what this one is like. I have been rocking Akaso cameras for a few years, because i am broke and cheap. Dont always buy into the name brand thing. Find things cheaper do the job. I have had virtually zero issues with my cameras. I think they look just as good wo use of any filters or editing tricks. I like real. Sound been battling wind forever, but think have to a tolerable point on one of them. Watch other videos and dont feel is bad, because either wind is still prevalent or voice sounds digitized from using a separate recorder or editing tricks. Hear people complain about their go pros and even these. Certainly does not entice me to spend 5 or 6 times as much. Ntm usually does not come w any attachments sold separately.
It looks "ok" I suppose....but it seems it's being hit with massive amounts of noise reduction waxy artifacts, even in bright light situations. Insta360, can you please give us noise reduction controls? You are smashing that image way too hard and scrubbing it so deeply that it looks plastic.
Tom you legend! Cheers for your thoughts on our Ace Pro 🙌 Really value your take on our latest camera!
Do you provide one for testing in India too ?
When will the 8K firmware be released?
Thank you for non removable lens guard
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Is there any huge difference between ace pro and ace especially when it comes to low light videos? because price of Ace only is cheaper than pro. Need a quick suggestion. Thanks.
Low light looks better in the Insta for sure, I also notice the lens cover must not have a hydrophobic coating as the water sticks to it. Looks like they didn't learn from the GoPro 8 flaw, the lens cover HAS to be replaceable! This is an action cam!
And fov is ridiculous
The lense is removeable!
This gopro overheating thing is really killing their brand. Unbelievable they didnt change this still.
They replaced one of my "bloated" (exploded) batteries due to this.
It dissipates heat from under as well, lying it around, no moving air and filming is not the main thing to do with action cams. I had mine inside and outside of the car in Japan last summer and never had it overheat. If there is airflow whatsoever it should not overheat that easily. If you take timelapses it never overheats on those, had mine on a yard all day in blazing heat in Japan with external power taking timelapse.
The bigger sensor doesn't seem as exciting when you consider that they already have a full 1inch sensor module available.
Yes, but this one has an F2.6 vs F3.2 on the ONE R.
Aperture makes a big difference too. 1/3 inch is not small by any means.
Although it would've been super nice to get that 1inch sensor in this with F2.6 aperture.
@@paiman_ I am still in happy mood with my One X2.
Great video as always Tom 👏 look forward to getting my hands on one 📷
Thats actually pretty damn good
A flip screen is a huge step up, its ideal for vlogging.
Very very enthused, potential and probable game changer here, as a motovlogger who's been DJI loyal for two action cameras , I can already see this as being a trade up. Really productive and informative . Keen to see more ! 👍
Hey Chaps! What would you use an Action Cam for??
Mostly surfing, so that huge screen in the back is redundant for me.
Recording drum cover songs, biking/hiking thru the woods.
I shoot travel videos. Action cams are strong and durable not to mention waterproof…..
How is the Ace Pro audio feedback? Especially at noisy place like concerts or festivals?
Snorkeling
The flip-up screen on an action camera? Not for me. If I need one for vlogging or similar purposes, the Osmo Pocket 3 is the best choice. I still favor the Osmo Action 4 for its price: better value, battery life, usability, bundled packs like the adventure combo, superior waterproofing (18m on OA4 vs. 10m on Ace Pro), and image quality, which is on par or even better in some instances with the same sensor size. The AI features on Ace Pro didn't impress me much, I also trust DJI updating firmwares and adding similar AI software features to the OA4.
However, I am excited and keeping an eye out for the Insta360 One X4, which might come with a better sensor (1/1.3 inch) similar to the Ace Pro, higher resolution 360 video, and other exciting features.
The DJI Action 4 adventure combo is certainly money for value! This Ace Pro if we add all the accessories such as spare battery, charging device, Quick Reader, Multi-Mount, etc I estimate $200+ on top of the basic unit cost. That's a deal breaker for some folks.
@@paulchin4094 Indeed. DJI all the way for me as well.
However, I am looking forward to improved One X4 from Insta360.
No replaceable lens cover on the ace pro has me disappointed 😔 I can’t be the only person who’s scratched a GoPro lens.
Seeing a pre production unit with removable lens on the ace pro makes me think it’s a money grab. GoPro 8 vibes
Yeah I'm confused I don't even see a case available. But it's marketed for motorcycles and action in general. If you ride dirt bikes you're gonna crash so then what??
This one's the deal breaker for me.
Obviously there is no need for removable lens, if you crash with this camera the flip screen would be torn so you have to send it in for repair anyways.
Go pro is going out of business.. DJi and insta 360 are killing it! This will be a good pairing for my pocket 3👍
Are you sure you didn't turn something off from the Go Pro camera? That was a huge difference between the two. Looks like the Gopro was in a crying mode or sth. I might think you turn off sth on the Gopro.
Thanks for the awesome video, mines ordered and on its way. If this little device doesn't overheat in the summer it will be a game changer.
Hello. I want to use Insta360 Ace Pro as a webcam for Twitch live streams. Will I have any problems with long-term use? What are your suggestions?
Wow... And I was thinking of getting the GoPro 12. Not now. Thanks for a great review.
The low light stabilization is great!
I have to say... your videos are really good! You're great with the camera too!
Loving these videos, and you're the reason why I'm a happy owner of the XReal Air and XBeam.
Thats all nice and sweet but what about this flip screen,how durable will be after years,what about lense that you cant change on action camera,what about overheating,what about software gliches,why is it missing 10-bit colors,why the view is not so wide?That is info what we want to know
no replaceable lens = no sale !
insta- you should have learned this from the x x2 and x3 comments, but you still aren't using replaceable lenses ?
come on !
Why didn't you compare it with dji action 4 ? Especially in low light vs go pro it doesn't really say anything as everyone knows that go pro sucks. But weirdly enough, go pro with HDR at night performs better than without HDR
Can you please also test it with external wired mics. need to use it on my motorcycle, mounted on helmet
Almost perfect, they should have put built in GPS unless they want to conserve battery or heating issues
It looks like you have stabilisation switched off on the GoPro during the Soho shoot
This is new standard for action cam! GoPro is in knockout. Insta360 still maintains its reputation. 👍
The camera doesn’t have the AI warp feature because the processor isn’t good enough and is entirely app based. You also have to pay for it after 3 months, but they dont put that in the ad
Can you make a video about the Insta 360 Ace?
Thanks for the introduction to the Ace Pro. I had no idea about this camera coming out. Yeah, so far the video quality samples looks like it's on par with GoPro and better than Action 4. I like the overheating test.
I'll be honest, getting a free camera introduces a bit of questioning. Overheating or glitching, anyone else know or have experience in regards to it? But sounds like a very good action camera that pulls interest towards casual users like myself. But do appreciate the well detailed overview of this new action camera. Thanks!
Hey man! I’ve been having a huge problem with my ace pro- flickering. At 60Hz 4k 24 ss-literally anything I get this awful flicker in my video which totally takes away from my shots. Any suggestions why? Great video!
Missed out on one thing though. External mic input?
I took photos with mine too see if it works good as a hybrid dual camera for when I'm out in the water 🤗
Can you shoot in flat mode when shooting in 4k 30fps or 24fps, instead of HDR? Can you disengage HDR mode?
Be interested so see how it goes on a Motorbike when mounted to the top triple. Wonder if the quick release mount causes the image stabilisation to have issues.
GAME CHANGER. Looks awesome.
No comparison to the Osmo Action?
All I want is an action camera that allows me to record external audio in the rain! Why is it too much to ask? What use is a waterproof action camera that can't record sound in the rain? OK, so the internal mics can allow me to record distorted wind noise in the rain but I just want to record a simple external stereo and the camera to remain waterproof.
i love the experience with insta360
Can the brightness of the flip-out screen be adjusted? Curious how this camera will compare to the latest DJI.
Yes it can
Why I think stabilisation was disabled on gopro
call me old school. are the flip screens durable enough to handle crashes? Fast charging and no overheating is the thing. GoPro is on the doorstep now.
So far yes! But long term tbc
It's so bad that I still only know GoPro, and always feel like I'm an inexperienced camera user. For me, GoPro is still good and perfect, because they still keep the best they can do and sell small improvements. Hopefully next year Gopro will innovate or be crushed!
DJI Action 4 beat GoPro long ago, and now the Insta360 Ace Pro beats both of them in certain areas.
@@LetoDK I know that, I just don't have the conditions to own them. But I feel GoPro still has authenticity in the images. For me, the GoPro captures the same image as the eye sees, and the sound recording ability is also excellent.
just bought it! looks good. just disappointing that in Timelapse mode shutter speed goes down just to 30
Actually dji osmo action 4 sensor is same size and came to market a while back
Is there any huge difference between ace pro and ace especially when it comes to low light video? because price of Ace only is cheaper than pro. Need a quick suggestion. Thanks.
Well I have to sell my gopro now.😂😂😂 This is fantastic 👍 excellent review.. Big hug from Argentina 👍👍👍
Great video thank you. Quick question - as a UK vlogger why don’t you shoot in 25 or 50 fps? I notice you were recording in 30 or 60fps, which I understood is the US NTSC standard. I’m a UK RUclipsr and always shoot in 25 fps, should I change to 30 or 60? TIA.
Shoot in any rate you want. The 25 is only to prevent mains 50hz sync issues on indoor lights etc.
All paid reviewer do not talk that Insta360 is heavier than GoPro 12. On a helmet (they are action cameras, isn't it?) it matters. Insta360 has not "open gate" that is very useful in reframing in post. Another important thing in action video. I think THE MONEY makes those "reviews" so enthusiastic.
If the lens cover cant be removed, how are the ND filters attached they sell for this camera specifically?
Looking on their site, it looks like you just push them onto the lens
Wait… “Can’t ride a bike” or “Won’t ride a bike”?
Can't
Legitimately can't haha
@@ThetechchapI got you fam.
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Great video! 👏🏻
I personally prefer OA4 front touchscreen over flip out screen. This Ace Pro is just too expensive. Don't you think Tom?
Great video, you made me buy one :)
Can an ND filter be put on the Insta360 Ace Pro? If not, that is a deal breaker for many people. Is the lens cover removable and replaceable?
you make the best videos!
Gopro 12 low light action videos are mostly unusable so this is enough reason to consider this camera BUT I hope the production model has removable lens cover, Gopro learned from same mistake 4 years ago.
cant wait to try out the new features
Ace pro vs dji osmo pocket which is the best? Which the biggest sensor is?
Can’t ride a bike! Shocked… great episode
great video, what is the widest video recording available ?
Looks great, the product and the vid. Great work! Sub’d
Would it also be suitable for double duty as a Vogging camera in an office setting? Is the audio OK or is a separate microphone necessary or desirable if there is distance between the camera and the subject?
From all the early reviews I watched today, it seems like you guys received a different version compared to the one Insta360 is promoting commercially. On their website, they show the 8k capabilities, and none of you mentioned it, which is quite surprising!
I've read this from a lot of reviews that were posted online today:
"At the time of testing, the 8K hardware wasn’t supported by the firmware so I wasn’t able to see the results, but the very fact that this feature will be available is impressive, and we're looking forward to testing the 8K video mode when it's available for our full and in-depth review."
He literally mentions it in his video. Not available at launch.
What is the point of 8k? Very few people want to shoot in 8k.
@@DaveSimkusJust a gimmick or to show what sensor can shoot
They should be making a mini version of it, without the screen. You don't really need a screen if your doing actual "action". Will be cheaper, more pragmatic and durable. Thanks for the review 🙏
Especially if you can use that GPS screen thing they sell.
Actually, your videos are great
hello @Thetechcap can the ace pro do a continuous recording of 4k 30 mode more than 2 hours in case I am planning to try this as a sort of dashcam for travel videos. The older models or other same genre cameras do stop recording after a certain time. as for the 4k 60 i have experience with insta 360 one r that its stops recording or cuts into another recording session around 25 minutes to 30 minutes.
Is this better than the insta 360 x3 I have a motorbike and I want a gd camera for my trips out n about
Every time a new action comes to the market, GoPro got another nail in the coffin.
is it possible to record while charging ?
Can it be used out of the box or does it have to be activated with a phone like DJI products.
wow! good review thank's i like flip screen
Just wondering when it was filmed. In Soho the last 2 weekends and looking for myself 😂😂
Any chance you could check the LRV files and let us know the resolution and frame rate? Most importantly, does the LRV frame rate match the frame rate of the main video file? On previous insta360 cameras the LRV files have a lower frame rate (14.98fps) which makes them useless for using as proxy files for editing. Gopro & DJI cameras use a matching frame rate for their LRV files, so they can be used as proxies for editing. To check the frame rate & resolution you just need to rename the LRV file from .lrv to .mp4 and then it will work like a normal video file. Thanks in advance!
Wow the video quality looks fantastic, first thing if buying would have to be screen protector protection and or a case, let’s hope that they bring out replaceable lens covers, if Go pro can do then so should insta be able to 🤔🤔🤔 live the flip out screen, this is going sell like hot cakes 😎🤩
The non replaceable lens makes this a no go for me. What a shame.
Awesome & Thanks :)
How does Ace Pro perform underwater? Hoping to take this diving.
Should i sell my Act4?
Why didn't you talk about the down sides ??? Every product has good and bad points, or is this just an advert ? Flippy screen bad idea for a rugged action cam, fixed lens cover, bad colour space, performance in cold weather to be seen, external audio? Would have been better to compare with DJI action 4
Can I record while charging it?
Can I use the FALCAM F22 Quick Release Kit for Insta360 that I use with my Insta 360 X3?
So, losing the modular design mans losing me as a customer. I'll stick with my One RS for a while, with the 1" mod, and the 360 mod and the 4K boost mod, then. The non-replaceable lens is ridiculous. They learned nothing from GP's error with the GP8, then?
This video is like watching the shopping channel, just a shameless plug for Insta360.
Is this good for taking underwater videos?
Yep!
Really Great Show
Did they finally add timecode support? Is video in/out metadata on the files for premiere?
7:35 Indian Restaurant 😮. Wow ❤
4k 60fps.. is there cropping going on in like older models?
Can you also power on via the gps preview remove, if you stick your camera out of hands reach ?
Nice details....Would like to see under water video comparison of both gopro 12 n ace pro...does anyone have any info on this particular aspect
I don't think anything beats their preview go 3 model with the detachable "pill" camera. That thing is so damn cute and functional, needs to be a follow up.
"I don't think nothing beats their Preview Go 3" - so you're saying that you DO believe SOMETHING beats their Preview Go 3?
Well, you didn’t say a damn thing about the audio. how good is the audio?
I will watch to see what this one is like. I have been rocking Akaso cameras for a few years, because i am broke and cheap. Dont always buy into the name brand thing. Find things cheaper do the job. I have had virtually zero issues with my cameras. I think they look just as good wo use of any filters or editing tricks. I like real. Sound been battling wind forever, but think have to a tolerable point on one of them. Watch other videos and dont feel is bad, because either wind is still prevalent or voice sounds digitized from using a separate recorder or editing tricks. Hear people complain about their go pros and even these. Certainly does not entice me to spend 5 or 6 times as much. Ntm usually does not come w any attachments sold separately.
Kya baat gopro killer
Awesome camera, but just wish it was a tad thinner. Also, it feels like false advertising as the brand includes 360 in the name!
As an Insta360 One X2 owner, in addition to the camera, the editing software is a game changer! Can you comment on the editing system for this cam?
Hi,
Is it possible to connect a Power Bank to the USB-C port and just supply external power to the device without a battery installed?
I saw someone test this in a different video. It does work with no battery while plugged in.
Wow cool!!!
Have you all forgotten about the Insta 360 1R or even the DJI Action 4? Really weird...
The night time does not look good.
I'll stick with GoPro. WAY better for exteme sports.
It looks "ok" I suppose....but it seems it's being hit with massive amounts of noise reduction waxy artifacts, even in bright light situations. Insta360, can you please give us noise reduction controls? You are smashing that image way too hard and scrubbing it so deeply that it looks plastic.