I agree with everything you said. The one thing I hope doesn't happen is giving Coen the head coaching job. He needs to focus and improve on the offense; while Bowles or whoever is the head coach can get the defense under control. And the strength and conditioning coaches need to be replaced. Too many pulled hamstrings and lower body issues. Do these players ever stretch?
We’re on a 4 game losing streak, besides the Ravens loss, we were in every game without our playmakers on offense, the one time our defense could’ve carried us to victory, they just laid down. As good as Baker has been playing and keeping us in games is crazy, just for the defense to cost the game
I always enjoy these quick takes. Bowles does need to go at this point. I can almost bet Arians would not have had this happen to him. When you play defensive, you play not to lose. When you play offensively you play to win.
I think too many people in the comment section are not hearing the proposal: which is Belichick comes in to be Head Coach/Defensive Coordinator, while Licht and Liam keep their jobs. People can say he is washed all you want, but the last year in New England they had a nasty defense. Even Brady's last year there: they started 8-0 with a nasty Defense. People even thought Brady was the one who was washed because the offense was terrible. But if they sign Belichick to a 3-year deal: where the whole idea is he comes in just to be the head coach and fix the defense. With the understanding that he gets Shula's record and rides off into the sunset, and Liam gets a raise and is tapped as coach-in-waiting. That could benefit the Bucs older stars and set the Team up for the future. And a lot of the older stars are used to Belichick's method via Brady so they would probably take to it if it meant getting to another Super Bowl. And if he's able to pull off another Super Bowl that gets the Bucs to 3 which is starting to get into the rarefied air amongst organizations. But in that scenario he stays away from the offense.
I hate the no fun culture he brings I’ve heard too many stories from other players that played for him. If the dude didn’t have Brady, he would not have won nearly as much.
@@petestockman6116 that may be true but no one has ever doubted that he is a defensive genius. He was the defensive coordinator for the Giants under Parcells when they won their two Super Bowls
Belichick can come here without full control, Coen agrees to stay as OC for 3 seasons, and finally Belichick would agree to step aside for Coen after 3 seasons. In other words, not going to happen.
I know I'm in the miinority cuz if the defense was gonna be better we would have seen it by now. But id prefer keeping Bowles and him naking the big adjustments needed. We have takent on defense and consistancy with coaching is huge. Im hoping for a late season bounce back like last year and keeping what we have. There have been a few sparks of greatness from the defense this year here and there, just need to stick with what works and improve on it. I may very well be overly optomistic though.
I’d believe that Coen would get the nod seeing that they’re invested in Baker and don’t want him to be on a 3rd offensive playcaller in 3 seasons. I think it’s easier to find a new DC moving forward. Ultimately I’d like if maybe they used Bowles in the front office and gave him a superficial job title similar to BA and Tom Moore.
Depending on how the rest of the season plays out for the Bucs, if we were to look for a new HC I would welcome BB as long as we kept Jason Licht and perhaps Liam Coen. BB knows how to win, knows how to manage a game, he knows good defense, and hes highly motivated to win. I also want to say that Liam certainly looks the part of a up and coming offensive coach, but we dont know if he can be a great HC. Itd be a roll of the dice. Ultimately, I trust Jason Licht and the Glazers to make the right decision. Pewter Report thanks for the great coverage of our Buccaneers!
They need to fire the strength and conditioning staff, the injuries are what hurt us not the coaching. Would love to see a stat that shows which teams have the most injuries each year.
I would’ve fired him after the Kansas City game. He has a weak mentality . His time management is atrocious and his decision-making during a game is terrible..
I've seen this movie before starting Todd Bowles. Bowles D is a liability. Fire Bowles. BA step in as an interim HC. Foote is new DC (I don't care if he is worse than Bowles). Bucs have small window for a Superb Owl. BA will be HC in 2025. Hire a real DC. Put it in writing Liam Coen is the HC in 2026 when BA steps down. LesssGoooo Bucs!!
I like belichek but I think Mike vrabel would be a lot better fit for the culture and make for a smoother transition. Tennessee were crazy for firing him imo
I think the Dallas Cowboys might be the favorite to land Bill Belichick in the offseason, but there might be a scenario where Belichick could fit in Tampa Bay IF the Glazers try to make a splash in 2025 ... and if the team moves on from head coach Todd Bowles.
I think Bill is done in the league. He had limited interest last year and I don’t see it after a year off being different. He doesn’t have time to rebuild or implement his atmosphere at his age.
Let be real Bill sees what’s goes on with the cowboys it a dumpster fire! Dal literally is engraved in the cowboys and he is the main problem.. so I doubt it!
I don't know that Bill Belichick would be given free reign by Jason Licht/The Glazers, and I don't know that Bill would accept the job without being given free reign. My vote would be to let Todd finish out the season, and depending on where we finish, look at Liam Coen as our next head coach.
So throw Liam away for a former great who owes a vast amount of his success to having the goat at qb for 20 years and who was washed before Brady even left. Not seeing the vision. Let Bowles finish out the season promote Liam to keep him in the building and give him a offseason to get the team the way he wants it. Just my opinion.
I think positive is having bill belichick to change the culture buccaneers organization sum tom Brady did.. he’s a better defense coach better then Bowles n we have the stars n place for it
Where is everyone getting this "throw Liam away" from? It's all assumptions that he's gonna be fired away. Who saying Tampa won't throw money at him to stay with the team? Or that he doesn't wanna stay with Baker and this team? Not every OC who gets offered a HC job takes it. Some like the team and players they're with and wanna see it through. Some want to get the time in rather than have one good season than take the risk of jumping to HC. Plenty of sought after OCs excepted to have great opportunities went to have them and turned them down. Just because they bring in another DEFENSIVE coach doesn't mean the OC goes either.
I totally understand why people are upset with Todd bowls right now... I am upset with Todd bowls right now! But I also want us to continue to grow as a franchise, as a fan base, and as team. I want to develop more consistency in our coaching staff and players. I want to improve the training staff to help the players avoid injuries. Firing bulls right now would cause a massive reset and start over. Jason light and Todd have paid the bills for the Brady bowl, They have resigned all the important guys.. Let Todd get the FA guys that he wants.
Here is something no one is looking at - injuries on defense. Jamel Dean, $18 million dollars a year starting this year for four years - but he has been injured every year he has played. Including this year. The secondary is killing them, and the front four beyond Kancey and Vea are not getting pressure on the QB. I have some questions about the talent because Jason Licht has been great at picking up other defensive greats over time: Ndamuukong Suh (from Detroit), Shelton Quarles (from Denver) and plenty of others, he was able to build up the defense. His draft picks so far - a big mixed bag. Remember: Vernon Hargreaves III (CB)? Noah Spence (LB)? How about Joe Tryon-Shoyinka currently? He gets some right but plenty wrong - more than offense.
We've been under-drafting on the defensive side for a long time. Just look how many guys we have on offense that are getting paid big bucks. We have 2 on defense. We don't need a total rebuild, just a defense heavy draft and a couple of free agents.
I don''t think it's throwing Liam away, but realistically I see Liam getting a LOT of HC buzz going into the offseason, young McVay mind OC's tend to get jobs quite quickly despite their age. The real question is do you go in on the Belichick gambit or do you tie yourself to Coen, cause I highly doubt Coen would stay in Tampa as OC under Belichick when there could be HC opportunities for him. Why settle for being First Mate when you could be Captain? Personally despite the defense being terrible this year I feel hiring another defensively minded HC is not a good idea, offenses are being favored way more so it would help if your chief strategist for the team is from that side of the ball, just my two cents on it though always good points Scott!
I don’t want to lose Liam. But if Liam would agree to a 2 year contract as OC with BB as HC we are instantly Super Bowl contenders with another good draft and free agency defensive pickups.
I have thoughts on the hip drop tackle that put Godwin out for the rest of the season, I think the fines imposed against players is not enough! I think the NFL should start suspending players a few games in addition to the fine, I think he was targeted just like when he got injured in the Saints game a few years ago. #Gobucs
@TheBeggies95 that is indeed true, the NFL is a high contact sport, and it would be hard to control how they would tackle somebody, especially if you're playing to stop a touchdown, iam just venting that's all. But I will stay positive about the games after the bye
Let's pray he can pull another stretch run like last season but, like I said, I don't care how "easy" the remainder schedule looks, we got to play on both sides of the ball plus stay away from the injury bug.
BB could probably help the defense and making players more accountable, but his ego would probably not let a guy like Coen be his OC ! In my opinion Coen would be my first choice as HC ! Then hire a Top DC . Maybe pay a bunch for Steve Spagnuolo to be DC ! Almost like low end HC pay !
Bring in Belichick as HC, Vrabel as DC and keep Liam as OC. I’m always opposed to promoting an OC to HC after one year. Belichick can coach a few years (given his age) then Vrabel can step in then Liam eventually will be coach
If your were to switch out Todd Bowles and put Mike Tomlin in he’s spot! The team would’ve have been SB favorites of contenders with Tom or Baker… but only one was able to make it to the SB once even then the Defense was still suspicious
SR always love your content in your perspective. Hell no with Bill. He is a dinosaur that has been passed by with respect to Todd . He’s not perfect, but I would keep him another year or two to allow Liam time to progress. Even Sean McVay looked horrible with injuries bit the Rams 23 years ago. Injuries are killing this team and perhaps Devon White was the spark plug of nasty that we are missing just thoughts again love your contact.
Why replace dungy! Think it’s clear Todd has done as well as he can. Defence has been bad for quite a few years now. Doesn’t seem to get the best out of the players, maybe he’s too nice!
Why not tell Bowles that he needs to hire a DC and let him choose his staff that way Bowles can focus on player evaluation and accountability. I agree that his defense has been trash since he became head coach but that's not a reason to fire him. The players love him and they fight for him so that's a plus. Hire a DC, stop overpaying for mediocre talent and stop gambling in the draft in the early rounds(Licht). Get the cap situated and find some dogs on defense in the off-season
Make a condition that if we hire Belichick, he has to keep Liam Cohen as OC. I think Bowles needs to hire a defensive coordinator to call plays, I just think it took much to be the head coach and DC at the same time. It's not all his fault, injuries and players just not doing there Job, all these post game interviews of lack of communication y not being on the same page bullcrap. That talk is a excuse for not playing up to there potential. Liam should get the first shot at the head coach in my eyes. LFG!
I don't believe Todd Bowles or coaching is the issue. Looks like poor Defensive play from the players. Don't penalize the coach for crapping play from defense players on the field
I think for the future of the team. Gotta go with Liam. If bill came on as an assistant head coach/D coordinator then hell yeah! I just know that wouldn’t happen. Tho if you had told past me that Tom Brady wins a superbowl with the buccaneers I’d ask what year of madden you were playing. Crazy stuff happens……
Jon Gruden and the Glazer family are mending relationships. We know the Glazers loved him enough to overrule their GM and break that relationship to get Gruden last time.
@PewterReportTV Long shot for sure, but I wouldn't be against it. My only concern with Gruden would be his relationship with players. We know that he had a bad relationship with Keenan McCardell, which was never explained, and he had a blow up on the sideline with Keyshawn Johnson. As far as the X's and O's, and putting together a team he can coach to a Superbowl, Gruden is the man. Remember, the team the Bucs beat in their first Superbowl was as much the team that Gruden built as the Bucs were the team that Dungy built.
Not sure Belichick has that dawg in him to be a HC again. He seems almost happy! 😂 Either way, Bowles HAS TO GO!! Keep Liam if at all possible but idk if he's ready to be a HC.
NOOOOOOOOOOO Belichick, Bowles can still be head coach but he needs to hire a Defensive Coordinator for sure. If they were to get rid of him, let Liam Cohen be Head Coach and hire another D Coordinator!
The offense is NOT the problem!! Scoring 30 points without their best 2 receivers proves that. it's the NOfense tha'ts the problem. They have no LB's that are as good as Devin White was in his first few years. Britt is admittedly terrible at pass defense but hes still here! Antione Winfield got his big payout this year and it shows in his mediocre play now! We have absolutely no edge rushers putting any pressure on the QB's. I think its a combination of lack of quality defensive backfield and edge rushers plus Todd Bowles decision making!!
If the Glazers let Todd keep coach the same problems are going to be there just like this year, last year, year before last, etc.. we will be equivalent to the Cowboys
I could see Aaron Glenn or Brian Flores but I want to step away from the defensive head coaches and get an offensive mind wether it be Coen or someone else
Todd Bowles doesn't need another year to coach the Tampa Bay Buccaneers he had a healthy squad last year and there barely made the playoffs with a fully healthy team last year Todd Bowles needs to be fired asap his game manager and clock management is terrible no more years for Todd Bowles he needs to be fired asap
If we're going to hire outside the building for our next coach, I would prefer Mike Vrabel. He's a good defensive mind, a leader of men, and always gets everything out of his guys. Something it would appear that Todd Bowles is unable to do
Bowles has most of the fault this season. But the trainers conditioners have most of the fault with injuries. All these hamstring muscle pulls etc. Are because of over training or under training. I have noted before especially defense looks dead by the 4th quarter. They have either not trained properly for a 4 quarter game or their bodies are so worn out and haven't had proper recovery time to perform. This isn't just a bucs problem plenty of injuries throughout the NFL points out to this. It May also point out to the fact players have become so strong they have strengthened what their bodies will allow. People must come to an understanding the body can do just so much and each body is different. So every player should be treated differently. Maybe tone down what they are doing as they are maxed out or increase what they are doing because it isn't enough. It can be done in season. Just a small adjustment either with weights increase the time between sessions or decrease it. To error on the safer side decrease the time lifting and increase the time off especially before games. If that doesn't work you can then increase the time and have less time between sessions. Remember each player is different and some may require one or the other. The older the player is less is better and more rest for the body to recover is best.
73 is too old for the job anymore. Pay Cohen well so they keep him and have Bowles either hire a head defensive coach or move on. Bowles can't do both jobs at the level needed.
Everyone is talking like these next 6 games arw going to be a breeze, the reality we are going to loose against the chargers and probably Saints now that Carr is back ...probably won't even make the wild card
Todd Bowles is .425 as a HC... Gruden .558 and Dungy .645... Belichick is .647 Bowles is a great defensive coordinator, he sucks as HC; just too much responsibility IMHO. So demote Bowles to DC where he belongs and bring in Belichick for pennies; keep Liam where he is... Problem solved. While you are @ it have Jason give Barrett a call, he said he'd play for the Bucs and would probably work for a Outback gift card; his veteran presence wouldn't save this season but could add a shot in the arm in regards to the D that is needed. Just my $.02.
I mean baker let it slip that way of life caused nothing but stress. If bill is the next coach we will need a ton of new players after those trade demands. Never mind that we would toss our best ace in the hole away to rot since bill wants to be GM as well. I get bill wanting us, I don't get us wanting bill.
Todd is a good coach but I don’t like his coaching style especially defensively! He always what’s to blitz and the secondary was always bad when he was the defensive coach! Todd did this to himself! And to be honest Todd might just retire to save face! Last wasn’t just Todd’s career on the line either! The year Tom retired Todd threw Brian Leftwich under the bus to save his butt that year the teams was really bad!
@ defense has never been that great since the Super Bowl run! But even than the secondary was always the main weakness of the defense! Some years it was the run defense too! These issues aren’t new no one noticed because we were winning games! But I always knew Todd strategy had problems and he never fixed them! MrBucsNation said that Todd had a bad roster and injuries! But that no excuse, as a coach you suppose to have you team ready! And adopted to the game when challenges come! Todd Bowles was still stuck on blitzing! Look it the falcons game this year, or the Ravens, lions, Washington… out of the times he had called blitz 30% has been successful
I agree with everything you said. The one thing I hope doesn't happen is giving Coen the head coaching job. He needs to focus and improve on the offense; while Bowles or whoever is the head coach can get the defense under control. And the strength and conditioning coaches need to be replaced. Too many pulled hamstrings and lower body issues. Do these players ever stretch?
@@louisszemesi9345 - hire Tom Brady’s trainer… you would think that these guys would be better stretched
I’ve tried to support Todd but he has zero killer instinct. I don’t understand what happened but I’m done.
I'm with you at this point. This defense has gotten incredibly soft. Sad to see.
Yeah, it’s like he’s having the defense play so soft.
We’re on a 4 game losing streak, besides the Ravens loss, we were in every game without our playmakers on offense, the one time our defense could’ve carried us to victory, they just laid down. As good as Baker has been playing and keeping us in games is crazy, just for the defense to cost the game
I always enjoy these quick takes. Bowles does need to go at this point. I can almost bet Arians would not have had this happen to him. When you play defensive, you play not to lose. When you play offensively you play to win.
Thank you - and well said.
Pewter pulse is a really good name for a Bucs channel.
I think too many people in the comment section are not hearing the proposal: which is Belichick comes in to be Head Coach/Defensive Coordinator, while Licht and Liam keep their jobs.
People can say he is washed all you want, but the last year in New England they had a nasty defense. Even Brady's last year there: they started 8-0 with a nasty Defense. People even thought Brady was the one who was washed because the offense was terrible.
But if they sign Belichick to a 3-year deal: where the whole idea is he comes in just to be the head coach and fix the defense. With the understanding that he gets Shula's record and rides off into the sunset, and Liam gets a raise and is tapped as coach-in-waiting.
That could benefit the Bucs older stars and set the Team up for the future. And a lot of the older stars are used to Belichick's method via Brady so they would probably take to it if it meant getting to another Super Bowl. And if he's able to pull off another Super Bowl that gets the Bucs to 3 which is starting to get into the rarefied air amongst organizations.
But in that scenario he stays away from the offense.
IF Bill Belichick comes to Tampa Bay I think that's the only scenario that really works well.
I hate the no fun culture he brings I’ve heard too many stories from other players that played for him. If the dude didn’t have Brady, he would not have won nearly as much.
@@petestockman6116 that may be true but no one has ever doubted that he is a defensive genius. He was the defensive coordinator for the Giants under Parcells when they won their two Super Bowls
Bills son says his dad wants to pursue tv opportunities. 😊
Short answer: No
Long answer: No
Got it!
Belichick can come here without full control, Coen agrees to stay as OC for 3 seasons, and finally Belichick would agree to step aside for Coen after 3 seasons. In other words, not going to happen.
We'll see what happens. Maybe Liam Coen thinks he's ready to be a head coach.
I’ll be shocked if Bill would keep Coen! Do they even have a relationship?
@@Veedub112 One thing we know is Coen can run a successful offense without Brady at QB, but can Bill find another OC to do the the same?
I know I'm in the miinority cuz if the defense was gonna be better we would have seen it by now. But id prefer keeping Bowles and him naking the big adjustments needed. We have takent on defense and consistancy with coaching is huge. Im hoping for a late season bounce back like last year and keeping what we have. There have been a few sparks of greatness from the defense this year here and there, just need to stick with what works and improve on it. I may very well be overly optomistic though.
I’d believe that Coen would get the nod seeing that they’re invested in Baker and don’t want him to be on a 3rd offensive playcaller in 3 seasons. I think it’s easier to find a new DC moving forward. Ultimately I’d like if maybe they used Bowles in the front office and gave him a superficial job title similar to BA and Tom Moore.
I think you're right.
Depending on how the rest of the season plays out for the Bucs, if we were to look for a new HC I would welcome BB as long as we kept Jason Licht and perhaps Liam Coen. BB knows how to win, knows how to manage a game, he knows good defense, and hes highly motivated to win. I also want to say that Liam certainly looks the part of a up and coming offensive coach, but we dont know if he can be a great HC. Itd be a roll of the dice. Ultimately, I trust Jason Licht and the Glazers to make the right decision. Pewter Report thanks for the great coverage of our Buccaneers!
BB only knows how to win with Brady at QB without Brady he sucks
Thank you!
They need to fire the strength and conditioning staff, the injuries are what hurt us not the coaching. Would love to see a stat that shows which teams have the most injuries each year.
It's crazy, but the Bucs were one of the healthiest teams in the league last year with the same strength and conditioning staff.
Nah man there have been some seriously questionable coaching decisions
I would’ve fired him after the Kansas City game. He has a weak mentality . His time management is atrocious and his decision-making during a game is terrible..
And always has been his whole coaching career but these guys praise him
Bucs defense has gotten incredibly soft on his watch. Disappointing to see.
Glad you addressed it
I've seen this movie before starting Todd Bowles. Bowles D is a liability. Fire Bowles. BA step in as an interim HC. Foote is new DC (I don't care if he is worse than Bowles). Bucs have small window for a Superb Owl. BA will be HC in 2025. Hire a real DC. Put it in writing Liam Coen is the HC in 2026 when BA steps down. LesssGoooo Bucs!!
I like belichek but I think Mike vrabel would be a lot better fit for the culture and make for a smoother transition. Tennessee were crazy for firing him imo
I too like Mike Vrabel.
Todd Bowles is a nice guy and the team does love and respect him! The Niceness can not result in talent to lead… and acknowledge of the game!
The Bucs need an edge, especially on defense.
I think the Dallas Cowboys might be the favorite to land Bill Belichick in the offseason, but there might be a scenario where Belichick could fit in Tampa Bay IF the Glazers try to make a splash in 2025 ... and if the team moves on from head coach Todd Bowles.
I think Bill is done in the league. He had limited interest last year and I don’t see it after a year off being different. He doesn’t have time to rebuild or implement his atmosphere at his age.
@@JamesTolson-jh6so We'll see. He might get one more shot, but he's getting older by the year.
Let be real Bill sees what’s goes on with the cowboys it a dumpster fire! Dal literally is engraved in the cowboys and he is the main problem.. so I doubt it!
I say we keep Leam for head coach.
I think Liam Coen would be the favorite.
If your proposal plays out and garentee me Liam doesn’t leave. And Jason keeps drafting. Sign me up.
I don't know that Bill Belichick would be given free reign by Jason Licht/The Glazers, and I don't know that Bill would accept the job without being given free reign. My vote would be to let Todd finish out the season, and depending on where we finish, look at Liam Coen as our next head coach.
So throw Liam away for a former great who owes a vast amount of his success to having the goat at qb for 20 years and who was washed before Brady even left. Not seeing the vision. Let Bowles finish out the season promote Liam to keep him in the building and give him a offseason to get the team the way he wants it. Just my opinion.
I think OC Liam Coen would be the front-runner if the team is going to make a change in the offseason.
I think positive is having bill belichick to change the culture buccaneers organization sum tom Brady did.. he’s a better defense coach better then Bowles n we have the stars n place for it
Where is everyone getting this "throw Liam away" from? It's all assumptions that he's gonna be fired away. Who saying Tampa won't throw money at him to stay with the team? Or that he doesn't wanna stay with Baker and this team? Not every OC who gets offered a HC job takes it. Some like the team and players they're with and wanna see it through. Some want to get the time in rather than have one good season than take the risk of jumping to HC. Plenty of sought after OCs excepted to have great opportunities went to have them and turned them down. Just because they bring in another DEFENSIVE coach doesn't mean the OC goes either.
@@BryKG usually u will see head coaches hiring they own staff
@@BryKGagreed
No way! That’s silly as hell. We should do whatever it takes to make sure Baker does NOT have to change offensive coordinators again!
Great job!
Thank you!
I totally understand why people are upset with Todd bowls right now... I am upset with Todd bowls right now! But I also want us to continue to grow as a franchise, as a fan base, and as team. I want to develop more consistency in our coaching staff and players. I want to improve the training staff to help the players avoid injuries.
Firing bulls right now would cause a massive reset and start over.
Jason light and Todd have paid the bills for the Brady bowl, They have resigned all the important guys.. Let Todd get the FA guys that he wants.
If Todd Bowles is fired it won't be before the end of the season.
@PewterReportTV -- I believe that but it's hard to ignore the phony fans and the media rating sharks promoting for it to happen.
Liam Coen and Robert Saleh would be a winning combination 💪...go Bucs 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
Let's just recycle Fired Jets coaches 🙄
I like Saleh, and think the Jets were the issue not him. But if you have a chance at both and pick him over Belichick you're insane.
The more intriguing question in my opinion is: If we make Liam the HC, what candidates are there for DC?
Good question. Mike Vrabel? Robert Saleh?
@@PewterReportTV Plus those who lose their jobs at the end of the season once their HC gets fired.
I would only like it if we could keep Coen as OC
Here is something no one is looking at - injuries on defense. Jamel Dean, $18 million dollars a year starting this year for four years - but he has been injured every year he has played. Including this year. The secondary is killing them, and the front four beyond Kancey and Vea are not getting pressure on the QB. I have some questions about the talent because Jason Licht has been great at picking up other defensive greats over time: Ndamuukong Suh (from Detroit), Shelton Quarles (from Denver) and plenty of others, he was able to build up the defense. His draft picks so far - a big mixed bag. Remember: Vernon Hargreaves III (CB)? Noah Spence (LB)? How about Joe Tryon-Shoyinka currently? He gets some right but plenty wrong - more than offense.
Scott , what do you think of Barton at Left tackle and Hainsey at center
I think Graham Barton has real Pro Bowl potential at center. I would leave him there to develop.
We've been under-drafting on the defensive side for a long time. Just look how many guys we have on offense that are getting paid big bucks. We have 2 on defense.
We don't need a total rebuild, just a defense heavy draft and a couple of free agents.
Scott , what do you think of the dime package on 3rd and long to take Britt and Russell off the field
I'd like the dime if they can get Tykee Smith healthy.
I don''t think it's throwing Liam away, but realistically I see Liam getting a LOT of HC buzz going into the offseason, young McVay mind OC's tend to get jobs quite quickly despite their age. The real question is do you go in on the Belichick gambit or do you tie yourself to Coen, cause I highly doubt Coen would stay in Tampa as OC under Belichick when there could be HC opportunities for him. Why settle for being First Mate when you could be Captain? Personally despite the defense being terrible this year I feel hiring another defensively minded HC is not a good idea, offenses are being favored way more so it would help if your chief strategist for the team is from that side of the ball, just my two cents on it though always good points Scott!
I don’t want to lose Liam. But if Liam would agree to a 2 year contract as OC with BB as HC we are instantly Super Bowl contenders with another good draft and free agency defensive pickups.
The Bucs won't be losing Liam Coen. Don't worry.
Bill and Liam would be fantastic
Yea single year I have doubts about this team! Not once I questioned the offense but it what always the defense!
Wow that would be crazy but our defense sucks under Bowles! Idk what bill could do about it either!
I have thoughts on the hip drop tackle that put Godwin out for the rest of the season, I think the fines imposed against players is not enough! I think the NFL should start suspending players a few games in addition to the fine, I think he was targeted just like when he got injured in the Saints game a few years ago. #Gobucs
And Roquan Smith's fine got overturned this week, too.
@@PewterReportTVWOW! How is that possible??, smh🤦🏾
Its sucks it happened but that hip drop tackle rule is dumb. How are they supposed to tackle honestly?
@TheBeggies95 that is indeed true, the NFL is a high contact sport, and it would be hard to control how they would tackle somebody, especially if you're playing to stop a touchdown, iam just venting that's all. But I will stay positive about the games after the bye
Let's pray he can pull another stretch run like last season but, like I said, I don't care how "easy" the remainder schedule looks, we got to play on both sides of the ball plus stay away from the injury bug.
Yes please!!!!!
Pump your brakes and bowls, and not get fired this season. Maybe next season, I see the Tony Dungy similarities
It's not looking good for Todd Bowles unless the Bucs win 10 games and make the playoffs.
That would be great
Oh hell no.. Leave Bowles there for another season..
Too many injuries on the back end.
Todd Bowles needs to show improvement in order to stay.
I want to give Liam a chance as a head coach. I would love to have Belichick as Defensive Corrdinator but not as the head coach.
I'm with you.
Scott , what do you think of White in the slot ?
I'm for it right now. I like the Pony package where Rachaad White and Bucky Irving are on the field together.
BB could probably help the defense and making players more accountable, but his ego would probably not let a guy like Coen be his OC ! In my opinion Coen would be my first choice as HC ! Then hire a Top DC . Maybe pay a bunch for Steve Spagnuolo to be DC ! Almost like low end HC pay !
Well said.
Bring in Belichick as HC, Vrabel as DC and keep Liam as OC. I’m always opposed to promoting an OC to HC after one year. Belichick can coach a few years (given his age) then Vrabel can step in then Liam eventually will be coach
I saw gruden at the game. Was hoping he was there for an interview.
I follow him on RUclips and he lives in Tampa and watch most games live at RayJay. I would gladly have him back as a coach
Having Jon Gruden back would be something else ... not sure that's in the cards, though.
We also could hire Mike Varible......while keeping the OC .
Yea belichick would be nice head coach for the buccaneers
I hope we don't lose liam
I can’t lie I thought of this when Brady left😂😂 sad to say he’s going to a NFC east team probably his old giants when he was a DC
If your were to switch out Todd Bowles and put Mike Tomlin in he’s spot! The team would’ve have been SB favorites of contenders with Tom or Baker… but only one was able to make it to the SB once even then the Defense was still suspicious
Liam is the Head Coach next year
SR always love your content in your perspective. Hell no with Bill. He is a dinosaur that has been passed by with respect to Todd . He’s not perfect, but I would keep him another year or two to allow Liam time to progress. Even Sean McVay looked horrible with injuries bit the Rams 23 years ago. Injuries are killing this team and perhaps Devon White was the spark plug of nasty that we are missing just thoughts again love your contact.
Thank you!
Why replace Todd Bowles? Give him a chance with a healthy team.
Because his defense has been a sore spot and relatively healthy.
His defense has been awful this year.
Why replace dungy! Think it’s clear Todd has done as well as he can. Defence has been bad for quite a few years now. Doesn’t seem to get the best out of the players, maybe he’s too nice!
Nah man we gave him another chance last year his defense has been bad
Why not tell Bowles that he needs to hire a DC and let him choose his staff that way Bowles can focus on player evaluation and accountability. I agree that his defense has been trash since he became head coach but that's not a reason to fire him. The players love him and they fight for him so that's a plus. Hire a DC, stop overpaying for mediocre talent and stop gambling in the draft in the early rounds(Licht). Get the cap situated and find some dogs on defense in the off-season
The coach has some responsibility but the talent isn't there on defense. No turnovers, pass rush etc..
Make a condition that if we hire Belichick, he has to keep Liam Cohen as OC. I think Bowles needs to hire a defensive coordinator to call plays, I just think it took much to be the head coach and DC at the same time. It's not all his fault, injuries and players just not doing there Job, all these post game interviews of lack of communication y not being on the same page bullcrap. That talk is a excuse for not playing up to there potential. Liam should get the first shot at the head coach in my eyes. LFG!
Too old, reason why he is still unemployed
Hope not. Would hate to lose Jason Licht or Liam.
I don't believe Todd Bowles or coaching is the issue. Looks like poor Defensive play from the players. Don't penalize the coach for crapping play from defense players on the field
When veteran players keep making mistakes that's on the coaches, too. And when younger players aren't getting developed that is also on the coaches.
I think for the future of the team. Gotta go with Liam. If bill came on as an assistant head coach/D coordinator then hell yeah! I just know that wouldn’t happen.
Tho if you had told past me that Tom Brady wins a superbowl with the buccaneers I’d ask what year of madden you were playing. Crazy stuff happens……
I think BB is overrated but he for sure would be an upgrade over Bowles. The Pats also became my second team so i’d like BB to coach here
Jon Gruden and the Glazer family are mending relationships. We know the Glazers loved him enough to overrule their GM and break that relationship to get Gruden last time.
Yeah, but a lot has changed. I'm not sure Jon Gruden would ever coach the Bucs again.
@PewterReportTV Long shot for sure, but I wouldn't be against it. My only concern with Gruden would be his relationship with players. We know that he had a bad relationship with Keenan McCardell, which was never explained, and he had a blow up on the sideline with Keyshawn Johnson. As far as the X's and O's, and putting together a team he can coach to a Superbowl, Gruden is the man. Remember, the team the Bucs beat in their first Superbowl was as much the team that Gruden built as the Bucs were the team that Dungy built.
You’da man.
Not sure Belichick has that dawg in him to be a HC again. He seems almost happy! 😂 Either way, Bowles HAS TO GO!! Keep Liam if at all possible but idk if he's ready to be a HC.
Possible that he keeps Liam he is a defensive coach
The fans are what matters and we want him gone.
Tampa only lasted two years with Brady
Technically three with Tom Brady.
Go go bucs
NOOOOOOOOOOO Belichick, Bowles can still be head coach but he needs to hire a Defensive Coordinator for sure. If they were to get rid of him, let Liam Cohen be Head Coach and hire another D Coordinator!
You had a healthy team last year and Todd Bowles wanted 9-8 with healthy team get rid of Todd Bowles needs to go asap
Bill needs to match Brady and win his 7th ring with the Bucs!!!!
The offense is NOT the problem!! Scoring 30 points without their best 2 receivers proves that. it's the NOfense tha'ts the problem. They have no LB's that are as good as Devin White was in his first few years. Britt is admittedly terrible at pass defense but hes still here! Antione Winfield got his big payout this year and it shows in his mediocre play now! We have absolutely no edge rushers putting any pressure on the QB's. I think its a combination of lack of quality defensive backfield and edge rushers plus Todd Bowles decision making!!
If the Glazers let Todd keep coach the same problems are going to be there just like this year, last year, year before last, etc.. we will be equivalent to the Cowboys
You need an elite qb not a fun guy you also need talent all these undrafted late draft players on the field is not gonna cut it
These last 7 games will make it or break it for Boweles
No, Lord no. It's proven that Bill is nothing without TB.
I think that's correct.
I hope so because Bowles isn't it, Liam Coen should be given priority, though, or else he can leave.
Just replace Todd bowles, but keep Kohen
I could see Aaron Glenn or Brian Flores but I want to step away from the defensive head coaches and get an offensive mind wether it be Coen or someone else
Todd Bowles doesn't need another year to coach the Tampa Bay Buccaneers he had a healthy squad last year and there barely made the playoffs with a fully healthy team last year Todd Bowles needs to be fired asap his game manager and clock management is terrible no more years for Todd Bowles he needs to be fired asap
If we're going to hire outside the building for our next coach, I would prefer Mike Vrabel. He's a good defensive mind, a leader of men, and always gets everything out of his guys. Something it would appear that Todd Bowles is unable to do
I think Vrabel would be a good choice, plus there's the Patriots connection with Jason Licht.
Hell yeah I’m all for Vrabel
Bowles has most of the fault this season. But the trainers conditioners have most of the fault with injuries. All these hamstring muscle pulls etc. Are because of over training or under training. I have noted before especially defense looks dead by the 4th quarter. They have either not trained properly for a 4 quarter game or their bodies are so worn out and haven't had proper recovery time to perform. This isn't just a bucs problem plenty of injuries throughout the NFL points out to this. It May also point out to the fact players have become so strong they have strengthened what their bodies will allow. People must come to an understanding the body can do just so much and each body is different. So every player should be treated differently. Maybe tone down what they are doing as they are maxed out or increase what they are doing because it isn't enough. It can be done in season. Just a small adjustment either with weights increase the time between sessions or decrease it. To error on the safer side decrease the time lifting and increase the time off especially before games. If that doesn't work you can then increase the time and have less time between sessions. Remember each player is different and some may require one or the other. The older the player is less is better and more rest for the body to recover is best.
I do like Coen
Two separate questions.
Hope if he goes it’s not Belecheck , don’t think he’s helping himself , doesn’t take accountability for bad calls or plays on defence
73 is too old for the job anymore. Pay Cohen well so they keep him and have Bowles either hire a head defensive coach or move on. Bowles can't do both jobs at the level needed.
I posted that a year ago
Everyone is talking like these next 6 games arw going to be a breeze, the reality we are going to loose against the chargers and probably Saints now that Carr is back ...probably won't even make the wild card
Todd Bowles is .425 as a HC... Gruden .558 and Dungy .645... Belichick is .647 Bowles is a great defensive coordinator, he sucks as HC; just too much responsibility IMHO. So demote Bowles to DC where he belongs and bring in Belichick for pennies; keep Liam where he is... Problem solved. While you are @ it have Jason give Barrett a call, he said he'd play for the Bucs and would probably work for a Outback gift card; his veteran presence wouldn't save this season but could add a shot in the arm in regards to the D that is needed. Just my $.02.
Bill doesn't do well without Brady. On the other hand, Brady can do well without Bill.
No way. Keep Liam
Algorithm help… Go Bucs!!!
I mean baker let it slip that way of life caused nothing but stress. If bill is the next coach we will need a ton of new players after those trade demands. Never mind that we would toss our best ace in the hole away to rot since bill wants to be GM as well. I get bill wanting us, I don't get us wanting bill.
Tampa Bay = Defense....always
Todd is a good coach but I don’t like his coaching style especially defensively! He always what’s to blitz and the secondary was always bad when he was the defensive coach! Todd did this to himself! And to be honest Todd might just retire to save face! Last wasn’t just Todd’s career on the line either! The year Tom retired Todd threw Brian Leftwich under the bus to save his butt that year the teams was really bad!
Todd's defense has been horrible since Week 3 this year. Not sure what's gone wrong, but I don't think he can fix it.
@ defense has never been that great since the Super Bowl run! But even than the secondary was always the main weakness of the defense! Some years it was the run defense too! These issues aren’t new no one noticed because we were winning games! But I always knew Todd strategy had problems and he never fixed them! MrBucsNation said that Todd had a bad roster and injuries! But that no excuse, as a coach you suppose to have you team ready! And adopted to the game when challenges come! Todd Bowles was still stuck on blitzing! Look it the falcons game this year, or the Ravens, lions, Washington… out of the times he had called blitz 30% has been successful
Even the this game is a throwing sport have a bad secondary would destroy even team chances of getting back to the Super Bowl
I sure hope not he hasn't done anything without Brady
Maybe, but he'll (Bill) be very expensive Scott.🍊
Indeed. He would cost a fortune, which is why I think Jerry Jones and the Cowboys will pay him instead.
@@PewterReportTV Me too.
This has no chance of happening
Probably not, as I said in the video, but we'll see. I'm not necessarily advocating for it.