I genuinely hope that they add 2 more games, one for strife where we'll get a better look on his abyssal armor and the other as a conclusion for the series
I'll add one more game to that list - an MMO set after dealing with the Council, with humanity establishing itself under the guidance of the Horsemen. Players pick a particular Horseman's techniques they are learning and go from there.
I want 1 game were you get to see what death and fury were doing during genesis,death can play out the same but for fury I hope they fix her play style and personally I wish I had a version of 3 that doesn't copy dark souls and kills rampage wich was stupid.
@@Nm-jq3by personally my favorite of the games will always and forever be the second game even tho I can't access the crucible and will never finish my abyssal armor
@@zaki7583 you can get the crucible if you get the deathinitive edition it has every piece of DLC added to the main game and your data will carry over if you are playing on PS4
@@Lodrelhai I actually would really like to see a human level story. That could be a spin off game franchise. Survival horror, or 3 person action. I think the lore is so big they could continuity the franchise indefinitely. Heck I would even mind playing as Ulthane. I could see a pretty fun action brawler starring his character.
Probably because this game was the only one were we did not seen war being accused of a planet genocide and having him being controlled by someone he hated
Look for Darksiders Land of Myth and Legends. That's the blog I'm using currently. The first one is more of an archive spot with a version of the fic that I decided not to finish. Just be aware I'm not the most active poster as stuff gets busy for me and too much at once gets overwhelming after a time. Not to mention that motivation is hard when you don't get noticed much.
Oh and I use this name for the blog if it helps. 1stUnseelieFaeLass is the one on the other blog. I don't feel like sharing the previous blog here as the original fic got real fucking dark at times. Can be quite the macabre writer.
the reason the angels were stationed on edan was that the artifacts left there were powerful and they didn't trust the demons not to use them and they were right.
I e heard that the plan that the original devs at vigil had was to make the first four games about 1 horseman each, and then make the 5th one pick up after the cliffhanger of Darksiders 1 and it would feature all 4 horsemen in 4 player co-op. I've got no idea if the current devs are sticking to that plan. (Genesis was kind of an outlier because it was made by a separate group than Darksiders 3, which Is presumably the same group that will make Darksiders 4, which would be Strife's solo adventure)
Great lore video gentlemen! I hope one day we get more info on the Seven seals, mainly in reference to what other races had to contribute to the End War; like the makers sending their constructs.
keeping track of the timeline is what hurts this series; the games don't connect events to help us understand the big picture without doing research. If they improve their storytelling in animated cut scenes that would help a lot
Does anyone else wonder what is the real connection between Samael and the Council? I mean he he seems to be very complicit with them while lesser beings have risked their wrath. Also the Council does tend to send the Horsemen his way and they do tend to spend a good deal of time with that guy. Their missions tend to help him immensely whether its ridding him of his rivals or breaking him out of prison. Last but not least he seems able to assist in unlocking their true powers. I'm starting to think either he is a representative or he maybe one of the Council members true form
Samael simply knows how to play with the system. His enemies tried to fuck with the balance, and he refused to take part knowing that it would make the Council rain down the horsemen's wrath on them. And the results were exactly what he wanted, the horsemen came, he helped them destroy his opponents, now he gets the Council to gift him for being a allied to the Balance
@@nathanielclaw2841 OK but I've noticed that for some odd reason his interest and the Council seems to line up very well. In my opinion its suspicious how they've sent the Horseman to free Samael from Prison and of course in Genesis under the guise of suspicious activity War and Strife are sent to question Samael who conveniently knew the full details of the plan despite supposedly taking no part even though he clearly does so by pointing them in the right direction and also his knowledge of their true power and unleashing it several times. This is way to many circumstances. The Council was ultimately cool with what Lucifer had done and imo clearly assisted him. They've deceived the Horseman before and have sent them on missions under false pretenses. Its not that far a stretch to consider Samael at least to be bigger than his status
The reason why his interests line up very well, is because Samael is a master manipulator with even more patience than Death. He listens, he watches and he schemes accordingly. In Genesis, he knew that Lilith was trying to recruit allies in her war against humanity after the fall of the Nephilim (an event he witnessed happening, as mentioned by Death. Samael went and observed the battle). He probably expected a visit from the Mother of Monsters ever since he saw Death drive his blades in Absalom's chest, so he was prepared for her coming. So when she came to visit him, he was ready and as she tried to win him over, he likely forced her to put all her cards on the table and from this, he most likely reckoned that the creation of an Animus was the easiest way to fullfil her plans. However, he also realized that it wouldn't be in his own best interest, so he rebuffed her, now privy all that was to know of her plan. So when Lucifer came to him with his proposal, Samael immediately recognized Lilith's hand in the matter and refused against, both annoyed and intrigued that they still would try to recruit him. What he didn't count on, was Lucifer going to Moloch, who clearly had a score to settle with Samael and give him enough power and means to actually be threat to Samael. However Samael isn't an idiot, he knew that his refusal would have consequences, even if he didn't know how severe, so he most likely spread the rumor that he was working with Lucifer himself, though through someone who couldn't directly linked back to him. At this point he shows why he is one of the greatest strategist minds in Creation as well as the one of the most skilled manipulators. By spreading the rumor, he was almost certain that the Council would try to have an audience with him first. As second of Hell, rumored to conspire with Lucifer, he might know the most or possess the biggest threat. But this allowed him to plead his case with Horsemen before someone could turn them on him. By acting innocent and having no direct connection to Lucifer as by his refusal, he was safe from their wrath. By helping them, he would temporary curry favor with the Council and the Horsemen but most importantly with Lucifer. Without risking his own life and limbs, he helped the Dark Prince's plan to succeed without the Council being able to act against him. He aided the Horsemen with the task the Council demanded of them. So his hands were clean, even if he was playing them. During the Apocalypse, he probably knew that Lucifer would start to see him as a real threat, so he must have prepared for the moment that they would betray him, he made a plan with Vulgrim. He counted on the fact that Lucifer would be able to kill him and only imprison him, and perhaps strip him of his powers. When this happened, it was up to Vulgrim to go to the Council. Samael was well aware that the Council would want to eliminate the Destroyer and everyone involved in his plot and seeing how he had no part in that scheme either, he once again can take advantage of their plans. Also the Council didn't send War to free Samael, he was send to hear what Vulgrim had to say, who long sought an audience with them. In short, Samael know how to take advantage of others plans to further his own machinations and most prominently, all of his plans are always within bounds to never attract the attention of others more powerful than him. He is brilliant and powerful but not arrogant and the few times that he went against more powerful beings, he had a back-up plan to get back on top. This is the big difference between the likes of Samael and Lucifer and the Masters used by Lucifer in his scheme. The latter thought themselves untouchable while Samael and Lucifer know there isn't such a thing as untouchable.
@@beavers1978 in the opening cutscenes of Darksiders 1 Angels and demons are falling from the sky engulfed in re-entry flames of the Esrth’s orbit. The fact they survive impact as well as the extreme heat with little to no effects makes me think the nuclear option won’t do anything other hurt humanity. Cut off the nose to spite the face situation.
Glad you liked it! We actually did one on them awhile back. It's a little outdated (missing details from Genesis for example) but nothing new that's come out contradicts anything we knew at the time. Link: ruclips.net/video/UuN52p7s-QM/видео.html
hey guys if you ever get burned out on kingdom hearts lore or hit a wall with darksiders you could always do a few video on the darkness from image comics some good ones would be the darkness itself the angelus the witchblade and the brotherhood since there is so much that the games don't bother to explain yet still expect you to know
Belial was not killed by the horsemen right then , he was killed by death long after humanity died , how did lucifer power the animus without belial’s soul ?
Abomination Vault is the only book. There are however, 2 comics, one which has largely been rendered non-canon thinks to retcons called Darksiders: The Graphic Adventure, and the other which focuses on Death called: Darksiders: Death's Door. Hope that helps :)
Hey gentlemen, from this video I have a couple of questions 1. Do you think Samael is just that award of what’s going on or does he have spies against guys like the Angels, Demon, Horseman, and mor specifically was the Charred Council? Both arguments can be made since in Darksiders 3 Envy was able to trick the council as a Watcher to the point where they hand picked her to work with Fury, and Samael can not only tell if a person time traveled but know who is aware of said time travel like how he knew Death went to the past in his fortress without anyone knowing. Because either would explain how he went from honoring the council and it’s laws in Genesis to saying screw their laws in Darksiders 1. 2. What do you think/ hope the next game will be? personally I’m assuming it’s gonna be a bit of Strife before 3 then after Fury left where he may come face to face with Lucifer and tosses his guns to Ulthane and the other Makers to pass them to his brothers. Thoughts?
I believe it's implied that Samuel has omniscients (the ability to know everything) but I don't think it's true omniscients since he has to talk with people to find everything out (or at at least it seems that way to me from what what I've seen in game)
Gareth Cowie yea also it’s possible he has guys watching the council too since it’s possible for guys to do that and see their plans. Honestly both sides is possible from the information we know so far.
Somewhere it's mentioned he has "borderline Omniciance" but honestly it's very possible he still has spies everywhere. DS4 (if they continue to follow the announced plan which we hope they do) will be Strife's solo story followed by DS5 a 4 player Co-Op game taking place after the events of DS1
True Masters and Morons thanks for the reply guys so my other thoughts are that when/if strife gets his own game he is played a bit during the time when fury is on earth till after where he finally meets and/or fights Lucifer and potentially dies where the makers takes his guns later. Also you said that the super forms are confirmed to be the power given to them by the council? So how does war get his back in 1? Finally what are your hopes for the future games? Thanks again
Honestly we assume it will either be his story leading up to the events of DS3 and then he dies there. Or we get to play a pre apocalypse him on some adventure. :P Because the council had sealed it not removed it, and in the same way that Samael unlocked it for the two of them in Genisis he re unlocked it for War in DS1
Here's our (slightly outdated) video on the timeline if that's useful: ruclips.net/video/Dnm30bENsU4/видео.html Short version, iirc the placement of 2 is a bit nebulous, but you're on the right track. It's like Genesis, 1's intro, 3, 2, and the the rest of 1. (I think, would have to recheck notes)
You know this is not a race, take a chill pill.... Idk why a guy is trying to catch his breath in a lore video, like slow down yo. It is a lore video not a 2 minutes recap of the game
I genuinely hope that they add 2 more games, one for strife where we'll get a better look on his abyssal armor and the other as a conclusion for the series
I'll add one more game to that list - an MMO set after dealing with the Council, with humanity establishing itself under the guidance of the Horsemen. Players pick a particular Horseman's techniques they are learning and go from there.
I want 1 game were you get to see what death and fury were doing during genesis,death can play out the same but for fury I hope they fix her play style and personally I wish I had a version of 3 that doesn't copy dark souls and kills rampage wich was stupid.
@@Nm-jq3by personally my favorite of the games will always and forever be the second game even tho I can't access the crucible and will never finish my abyssal armor
@@zaki7583 you can get the crucible if you get the deathinitive edition it has every piece of DLC added to the main game and your data will carry over if you are playing on PS4
@@Lodrelhai I actually would really like to see a human level story. That could be a spin off game franchise. Survival horror, or 3 person action. I think the lore is so big they could continuity the franchise indefinitely. Heck I would even mind playing as Ulthane. I could see a pretty fun action brawler starring his character.
That is probably the only time I've seen War laugh...EVER!
He did chuckle when his watcher was restraining him right before Uriel killed War.
Probably because this game was the only one were we did not seen war being accused of a planet genocide and having him being controlled by someone he hated
He actually smiles in his game
We have been feeding vulgram souls and all these powerful artifacts am sure in the conclusion we'd have to kill him
But I like vulgrum I don't wanna kill him
FINALLY! A cohesive timeline! Thanks a bunch guys. This helps with my fics so much, seriously.
If I can't link my own Mother's Insta because of stupid censor bots deleting the comment, I doubt I can link my Tumblr either. I'm really sorry.
Look for Darksiders Land of Myth and Legends. That's the blog I'm using currently. The first one is more of an archive spot with a version of the fic that I decided not to finish. Just be aware I'm not the most active poster as stuff gets busy for me and too much at once gets overwhelming after a time. Not to mention that motivation is hard when you don't get noticed much.
Oh and I use this name for the blog if it helps. 1stUnseelieFaeLass is the one on the other blog. I don't feel like sharing the previous blog here as the original fic got real fucking dark at times. Can be quite the macabre writer.
@Alpha Wolf Well thank you. Again sorry for inactivity in the blogs.
Genesis was a blast.
the reason the angels were stationed on edan was that the artifacts left there were powerful and they didn't trust the demons not to use them and they were right.
God i love samael's face at the making of the seals XD
I wonder if strife will get his own games or they'll finally continue on after darksiders one
Strife is going to get his own game
I e heard that the plan that the original devs at vigil had was to make the first four games about 1 horseman each, and then make the 5th one pick up after the cliffhanger of Darksiders 1 and it would feature all 4 horsemen in 4 player co-op. I've got no idea if the current devs are sticking to that plan. (Genesis was kind of an outlier because it was made by a separate group than Darksiders 3, which Is presumably the same group that will make Darksiders 4, which would be Strife's solo adventure)
Great lore video gentlemen! I hope one day we get more info on the Seven seals, mainly in reference to what other races had to contribute to the End War; like the makers sending their constructs.
Darksiders teaser just dropped.
keeping track of the timeline is what hurts this series; the games don't connect events to help us understand the big picture without doing research. If they improve their storytelling in animated cut scenes that would help a lot
Well we know this is after Wars hand got cut off by death because war brought it up when he was extremely pissed off about eden to strife
Nice to hear from u guys!!
Does anyone else wonder what is the real connection between Samael and the Council? I mean he he seems to be very complicit with them while lesser beings have risked their wrath. Also the Council does tend to send the Horsemen his way and they do tend to spend a good deal of time with that guy. Their missions tend to help him immensely whether its ridding him of his rivals or breaking him out of prison. Last but not least he seems able to assist in unlocking their true powers. I'm starting to think either he is a representative or he maybe one of the Council members true form
Samael simply knows how to play with the system. His enemies tried to fuck with the balance, and he refused to take part knowing that it would make the Council rain down the horsemen's wrath on them. And the results were exactly what he wanted, the horsemen came, he helped them destroy his opponents, now he gets the Council to gift him for being a allied to the Balance
He know the council days are through. But he want to be on the top with the new order is made.
@@nathanielclaw2841 OK but I've noticed that for some odd reason his interest and the Council seems to line up very well. In my opinion its suspicious how they've sent the Horseman to free Samael from Prison and of course in Genesis under the guise of suspicious activity War and Strife are sent to question Samael who conveniently knew the full details of the plan despite supposedly taking no part even though he clearly does so by pointing them in the right direction and also his knowledge of their true power and unleashing it several times. This is way to many circumstances. The Council was ultimately cool with what Lucifer had done and imo clearly assisted him. They've deceived the Horseman before and have sent them on missions under false pretenses. Its not that far a stretch to consider Samael at least to be bigger than his status
The reason why his interests line up very well, is because Samael is a master manipulator with even more patience than Death. He listens, he watches and he schemes accordingly. In Genesis, he knew that Lilith was trying to recruit allies in her war against humanity after the fall of the Nephilim (an event he witnessed happening, as mentioned by Death. Samael went and observed the battle). He probably expected a visit from the Mother of Monsters ever since he saw Death drive his blades in Absalom's chest, so he was prepared for her coming. So when she came to visit him, he was ready and as she tried to win him over, he likely forced her to put all her cards on the table and from this, he most likely reckoned that the creation of an Animus was the easiest way to fullfil her plans. However, he also realized that it wouldn't be in his own best interest, so he rebuffed her, now privy all that was to know of her plan.
So when Lucifer came to him with his proposal, Samael immediately recognized Lilith's hand in the matter and refused against, both annoyed and intrigued that they still would try to recruit him. What he didn't count on, was Lucifer going to Moloch, who clearly had a score to settle with Samael and give him enough power and means to actually be threat to Samael. However Samael isn't an idiot, he knew that his refusal would have consequences, even if he didn't know how severe, so he most likely spread the rumor that he was working with Lucifer himself, though through someone who couldn't directly linked back to him. At this point he shows why he is one of the greatest strategist minds in Creation as well as the one of the most skilled manipulators. By spreading the rumor, he was almost certain that the Council would try to have an audience with him first. As second of Hell, rumored to conspire with Lucifer, he might know the most or possess the biggest threat. But this allowed him to plead his case with Horsemen before someone could turn them on him. By acting innocent and having no direct connection to Lucifer as by his refusal, he was safe from their wrath. By helping them, he would temporary curry favor with the Council and the Horsemen but most importantly with Lucifer. Without risking his own life and limbs, he helped the Dark Prince's plan to succeed without the Council being able to act against him. He aided the Horsemen with the task the Council demanded of them. So his hands were clean, even if he was playing them.
During the Apocalypse, he probably knew that Lucifer would start to see him as a real threat, so he must have prepared for the moment that they would betray him, he made a plan with Vulgrim. He counted on the fact that Lucifer would be able to kill him and only imprison him, and perhaps strip him of his powers. When this happened, it was up to Vulgrim to go to the Council. Samael was well aware that the Council would want to eliminate the Destroyer and everyone involved in his plot and seeing how he had no part in that scheme either, he once again can take advantage of their plans. Also the Council didn't send War to free Samael, he was send to hear what Vulgrim had to say, who long sought an audience with them.
In short, Samael know how to take advantage of others plans to further his own machinations and most prominently, all of his plans are always within bounds to never attract the attention of others more powerful than him. He is brilliant and powerful but not arrogant and the few times that he went against more powerful beings, he had a back-up plan to get back on top. This is the big difference between the likes of Samael and Lucifer and the Masters used by Lucifer in his scheme. The latter thought themselves untouchable while Samael and Lucifer know there isn't such a thing as untouchable.
I can't wait for the Strife lore
ANARCHY WILL REIGN
This makes me think: at what point could humanity match heaven and hell on equal footing?
Nuclear weapons?
@@beavers1978 in the opening cutscenes of Darksiders 1 Angels and demons are falling from the sky engulfed in re-entry flames of the Esrth’s orbit. The fact they survive impact as well as the extreme heat with little to no effects makes me think the nuclear option won’t do anything other hurt humanity. Cut off the nose to spite the face situation.
Holy shit!! I never thought my original RUclipsr name (Arthur Masamune) would show up in one of your request opening. Thanks
Thank you TM&M, very cool!
It's sad to realize that the ending in Darksiders 1 was the actual ending to the franchise
The seven heavenly virtues should appear in a Darksiders game.
Please do the lore of the charred council.. by the way.. great video! Love it
Glad you liked it! We actually did one on them awhile back. It's a little outdated (missing details from Genesis for example) but nothing new that's come out contradicts anything we knew at the time.
Link: ruclips.net/video/UuN52p7s-QM/видео.html
Malgross could have been one on the list of the council because he could have helped build the device in some way.
I love lore additions
This game was cool and all but I'm ready to find out the final conclusion.
hey guys if you ever get burned out on kingdom hearts lore or hit a wall with darksiders you could always do a few video on the darkness from image comics some good ones would be the darkness itself the angelus the witchblade and the brotherhood since there is so much that the games don't bother to explain yet still expect you to know
Could you make a video about the leviathans
"Perhaps now, they'll create a third Kingdom to be reckoned with"
OK, Satan.
A other good vidoe dude keep it up you rock
so the Nephilim are basically Vikings.
Legacy of Kain games, look into it please.
Dagon is from hp lovecraft so your right on the money with that statement
I NEED THE STORY AFTER 1 I NEED TO SEE WHAT HAPPEND AFTER THE OTHER 3 FELL
But... Belial didn't die... So how did Lucifer found another soul to replace his?
Apparently he didn't need AAAALLL the souls? :P
Exactly what I was thinking. They didn't kill Belial
Belial was not killed by the horsemen right then , he was killed by death long after humanity died , how did lucifer power the animus without belial’s soul ?
Wait,can someone tell me the names of all the books? Besides Abomination Vault?
Abomination Vault is the only book. There are however, 2 comics, one which has largely been rendered non-canon thinks to retcons called Darksiders: The Graphic Adventure, and the other which focuses on Death called: Darksiders: Death's Door.
Hope that helps :)
@@TrueMastersandMorons It does! Thank you so much!😊
So basically everything that makes us humans perfectly flawed and embodying the balance. Okay that’s fine. 3:48
Hey gentlemen, from this video I have a couple of questions
1. Do you think Samael is just that award of what’s going on or does he have spies against guys like the Angels, Demon, Horseman, and mor specifically was the Charred Council? Both arguments can be made since in Darksiders 3 Envy was able to trick the council as a Watcher to the point where they hand picked her to work with Fury, and Samael can not only tell if a person time traveled but know who is aware of said time travel like how he knew Death went to the past in his fortress without anyone knowing. Because either would explain how he went from honoring the council and it’s laws in Genesis to saying screw their laws in Darksiders 1.
2. What do you think/ hope the next game will be? personally I’m assuming it’s gonna be a bit of Strife before 3 then after Fury left where he may come face to face with Lucifer and tosses his guns to Ulthane and the other Makers to pass them to his brothers.
Thoughts?
I believe it's implied that Samuel has omniscients (the ability to know everything) but I don't think it's true omniscients since he has to talk with people to find everything out (or at at least it seems that way to me from what what I've seen in game)
Gareth Cowie yea also it’s possible he has guys watching the council too since it’s possible for guys to do that and see their plans. Honestly both sides is possible from the information we know so far.
Somewhere it's mentioned he has "borderline Omniciance" but honestly it's very possible he still has spies everywhere.
DS4 (if they continue to follow the announced plan which we hope they do) will be Strife's solo story followed by DS5 a 4 player Co-Op game taking place after the events of DS1
True Masters and Morons thanks for the reply guys so my other thoughts are that when/if strife gets his own game he is played a bit during the time when fury is on earth till after where he finally meets and/or fights Lucifer and potentially dies where the makers takes his guns later. Also you said that the super forms are confirmed to be the power given to them by the council? So how does war get his back in 1? Finally what are your hopes for the future games?
Thanks again
Honestly we assume it will either be his story leading up to the events of DS3 and then he dies there. Or we get to play a pre apocalypse him on some adventure. :P
Because the council had sealed it not removed it, and in the same way that Samael unlocked it for the two of them in Genisis he re unlocked it for War in DS1
So while hells strongest is lucifer who is heavens strongest in these series
Metatron?
Please do a okami or mass effect geth video.
its here
This game takes place first, yet War meets both Vulgrim and Samael in this game, then again in the next game both for the first time?
Hes tens of million years old and has been fighting through a lot of it. Give him a break
Do Amatraus from Okami
What type of story is the one in darksiders Genesis? How is it named this less video kind of story?
Hi
Why did the stupid devs stop this awesome series ?
I dont understand how that timeline works. Shouldnt it be genesis, 3, 1, and 2 taking place nearly at the same time as 1.
Here's our (slightly outdated) video on the timeline if that's useful: ruclips.net/video/Dnm30bENsU4/видео.html
Short version, iirc the placement of 2 is a bit nebulous, but you're on the right track. It's like Genesis, 1's intro, 3, 2, and the the rest of 1. (I think, would have to recheck notes)
😇😇😇😇😇
I really love the darksiders games, but i seriously wished they would make the suggestive designs for the female demons.
Wakfu lore again
Answer the call when you're my deal as well lol v u 😎💰🐦💯's bueno
This over head version sucked also
You know this is not a race, take a chill pill.... Idk why a guy is trying to catch his breath in a lore video, like slow down yo. It is a lore video not a 2 minutes recap of the game