Freelander 2: The best Land Rover? Or just another dud? | ReDriven used car review
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2024
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Land Rover doesn't exactly have the best reputation for reliability, so you'd be right to question whether a used one is a good option. However, find the right Freelander 2 and you might be onto a good thing.
But what should you be on the look out for if you're thinking of buying one?
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00:00 - Intro
01:51 - What is it?
04:30 - How's the exterior?
06:46 - How's the interior?
09:04 - How's the tech?
10:06 - Is it practical?
11:21 - What goes wrong?
15:48 - Is it safe?
16:29 - What's it like to drive?
18:11 - How much is it?
18:58 - Fuel use, warranty & servicing
20:36 - Should you buy it?
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Have one for 16 years now ( 2006 build). Never broke down. Always reliable. Love this car.
Manual or automatic transmission
@@georgemasaka6488 Manual gearbox and top level as far as options etc go.
Thanks
I hope manual is more better than auto in terms of reliability.
How many miles do you have on yours
been in the motor trade for the last 40 years, and used many vehicles for my private running, but after using range rovers for a while, I bought a freelander2. The best driving vehicle I have ever owned. it drives excellently, and after 3 or4 years, only standard sevicing garage bills. Really a great fan of the freelander2, and will run it as long as I can, and probably buy another.
Got one now which I've had for 6 years, 80000k's. Replaced throttle body at 120 k's and just had the timing belt and water pump done. No other stuff apart from regular maintenance. Comfy for distance, tows well and is reasonably good for fuel (diesel 2,2). I've had a good experience and plan to keep it until I know where electric is going. No regrets.
I’ve had one for the same, and done the same maintenance. It’s a cracking little car!
Why new throttle body? I just bought a 2.2auto HSE 2007
It drives so smoothly
@@robinainsworth2963 They throttle body has nylon gears and was wearing out. Could hear it clicking away so did it before totally failing. Easy job for DIY mechanic. Not very expensive. Wouldn't let it put you off the car - they are great value IMHO.
Electric is a gimmick.
Ive had mine for 18months of a 2 year lease.
Cant wait to go back to ICE
I have own a freelander 2 diesel for over 6 years now, apart from regular maintenance it’s never broken down, good honest vehicle, I love it and plan to keep it. Done over 90,000 miles now still as good as the day I bought it.
I drive a 2007, 2.2 diesel and it has been fantastic. It has done 300,000 km and I have only changed the turbo and power steering pump. The engine pulls like new and the transmission shift smoothly. All electronics work fine. I love it. Only a few months ago I went all the way to Alice Springs, Cairns and back to Sydney, did a total of 10,000 klm. It never missed a beat and I only had to had half a litre of oil. I have done all its services and I have a full history on it. Cheap to keep and cheap to repair if you do it your self. I love the it. I will get another one when it is time to change it.
you guys are the best by far for old car reviews. heaps of info with comedic flavour. bravo mate 👏
There's still a lot of these on the road in South Africa. That can't be a bad sign :)
Had my for 5 years boet, good and bad years
@@alexszabo6267 I am considering buying an HSE TD4. Opinion/s?
@@eugeneviljoen8513 go on freel2 forum and read up on the matter.
Oh dear.Must be an Oz thing. Generally they're pretty much reliable here in the UK. Never heard of sunroofs flying off ! As for handing, mine handles like it's on rail, despite the over size tyres I have fitted.
I've owned LR's for 30+ years and generally had pretty much every type from Series to Defenders. Even had a Disco that had 185000 miles on the clock when I sold it ! Only been stuck at the side of the road once and that was in my Freelander 1 V6 when the fuel pump died..
I've currently got a 2007 i6 HSE with 146,000 miles on the clock and heavily modified for off roading. It drives spot on , no squeeks, rattles or noises, no sagging headliner, none of the other issues in this video
My brother has a 2011 Sport LE with 171000 miles on the clock.
His neighbour has a 2011 HSE with 130000 miles on the clock.
Neither of them have any of the problems mentioned here either
Not really what I'd call unreliable considering the mileages.
However, I will say this - preventative maintenance is the key.If a component needs replacing, replace it rather than waiting for it to fail, as complete failure of one part often leads to failure elsewhere. Then it becomes expensive and "unreliable".
Most Freelander buyers, both Freelander 1 and 2, were first time Land Rover owners too. These people treated their vehicles like their family saloon - just slap on a budget tyre if they had a puncture, turned up the stereo if there was any noises. Only fix the MOT failures (UK) and leave the advisories to become failures later on. Then, when it all goes bang, blame the Land Rover as being unreliable.
Yes, Land Rover could and should do better. But as far as the F2 is concerned, look after it and it'll look after you.
Contrast this with my sister's Evoque. Spent more time at Land Rover for elusive faults than she actually drove it. Traded it in at 12000 miles !
Check out Freel2.com . Great Freelander 2 forum, even has some of you Ozzies on there.
That was a better and more honest review you just did, than the video we've just seen.
Cheers.
I've got some tips, actually, for anyone who's thinking of buying one. Firstly - don't get the pre-facelift entry-level version (pre-2011) as shown in this review. Not only are they just getting a bit old, but there were a few technical issues that were sorted in later models. Also, if you aren't going to stump up for the higher-spec models, just buy something else. The thing that makes these worth buying are all the premium features like the nice interior, amazing Meridian sound system and other Land Rover goodies that have trickled down from the Range Rovers and Discovery - coupled with great driving dynamics, off-road etc etc. The top of the range HSE versions can be hard to find, but they are the ones to get. The entry-level ones are ok, but they don't make as compelling a value proposition.
what was the technical issue in the pre 2011 ?, i am curious, because i owned a 2007 TD4, and didn't have any technical issues, only strange engine management readings when my Battery was on it's way out. Change the Battery, then no more issues.
Hey Ian Ive had one to for about 18 months Doing service every 6 months 10k so that helps Theres a lot of modern 4 door utes that are having lots of transmission / motor issues so Im not keen to jump out of my HSE into a dual cab box. Bit worried I wouldn't get the same luxuries
Thanks for the info
I'm in the UK third owner of 2007 xs hippo, bought from a back street garage and have loved every minute of her, she tows 1.4 ton caravan with five in the car and doesn't miss a beat, average 33 mpg 30 if towing. As for practical use I'm 22 stone and sleep in the back with seats down when away only cause I wake the baby with snorting, but comfy and warm. Another thing to look out for is the seat belt where it comes out of the piller the belt cuts the plastic but only if its on off I.e delivery driver . Yes service it regular every 2 weeks when you wash it just check under the hood give things a wiggle wipe a clean rag round see if there's any oil about. Mine done some off road work but under neath is mint the engine gets polished body is mint the car not mine I'm more of a snow man shape. Really good car take some one with you whose got a clue when you go look.
I bought a 2012 HSE diesel model 7 years ago still drives beautifully at 220 000km. Soft suspension, very comfortable and excellent on dirt roads. Keeping the tire pressure precise is important for handling though. I have had oil leaks, but none the last four years. The transfer case center axel stripped which was costly and now the front axels' gears are starting to show play and the left front door lock is temperamental .
Definitely agree with Tire pressure
I have one and love it. It done 111kms and it has been very reliable and has actually gone up in value since we bought it 3 years ago. Highly recommend it.
I owned an SE TD4 for 10 years. It was great when new, got dodgy around 5 years old (electrical gremlins), at 10 years old the repairs needed were more than the car was worth. Replaced it with a Toyota Landcruiser and couldn't be happier.
Thanks guys, as someone on the threshold of buying a 2010 model this was super helpful 👍🏽
Nice to see a recent video on the LR2. I’ve got the same color/wheels as in the video, but trim is HSE so the entire body is the same color, HID headlights, dual sunroofs, privacy glass, heated windshield/mirrors/seats etc. I think we only get HSE trim in Canada so it’s an easy choice compared to Jeeps and other competition that comes in all ranges of trims. Just hit 200k, bought at 70k. Only issue since buying used in 2014 was having to replace the rear diff, which shouldn’t have to be done on a Land Rover but no other issues in 8 years. Many of the 2008-11 MY units had this defect, if it was a more common brand I’m sure it would have been a recall.
I have a 2013 SE diesel and have really enjoyed it as a daily driver, towing a light caravan, hauling fire wood etc. Very capable and comfortable. One electrical gremlin sorted and rear drive clutch pack failed, that is all. Timing belt change time interval is 9 years so due this year. These diesels do not have DPF’s last model was 2014 and Australia mandated this in 2016. Probably keep driving it till end of vehicle life as our second car, it is so flexible for our uses.
Have the 2012 FL2 - 2.2 TD4, has the almond leather - very nice car, daily driver for kids school runs for my wife. Been very happy with it - actually quite economical, around 9L / 100km.
I have the 2011 Disco 4 S, very very good car - the space in it is unparalleled, the drive is amazing. Strong with the largest pulling power.
Both cars are around 220 000km and aren’t looked after, rarely service them, haven’t changed oil in 3 years … but still run amazingly well.
Mine has 190000 miles, serviced every 6000 miles. 2006 TD4 facelift HSE, just done upper timing chain and tensioner. Kosovo to UK and back over 5 times, never broken down, fantastic off road and in the deep snow.
I've found the Freelander 2 to be pretty reliable. My sister's got a 2009 TD4-e (seems to be top of the range) one that my dad and I got from a salvage yard after it'd been in an accident, damage was minimal. Just needed the front wing and headlight replaced and the bumper and front corner of the bonnet repaired, and a replacement shock absorber and lower wishbone. The only things it's needed in the 4 or 5 years she's had it are a new battery, pair of front brake discs and pads (all standard 'wear and tear' parts) and a replacement steering angle sensor. We also did one for some friends of the family (it had almost the same damage!) that they wanted, a more basic TD4 model of the same year. They've had it about the same amount of time (they were bought about the same time from the same salvage yard), all that one's needed funnily enough is a battery and front discs and pads. Both are kept regularly serviced. My sister had a 2002 Freelander 1 TD4 before the FL2 and it never ever let her down, only thing it ever needed was a new clutch and flywheel, but it had done nearly 200,000 miles before we changed the clutch and the flywheel was original as far as we could tell so it had a right to be worn out!
I bought a pre-owned 2011 Freelander 2. It has 123000 miles on the odometer and still drives fantastically. I’ve never had a single problem with it. I just maintain it well. The previous owner obviously did, as well. I felt the intro to this video was arrogant, and rude. 🙂
Had one of these. Turbo went, intercooler went, turbo hoses are common problems.
Besides that pretty good to drive when nothing goes wrong
Key words being, “when nothing goes wrong”
@@ReDriven 😂👏
@@ReDriven took the words out of my mouth right there lol
I get the impression that ReDriven is definitely anti land rover.🤔
How many miles on the clock, and what was the service history ?
My wife's had one nearly 5years,the only thing that's been changed other than service parts is an new clutch, and that's because of the concentric slave cylinder inside the bell housing started leaking so I replaced everything, other than that it's been absolutely faultless and this one is a late 2007 se model would definitely buy another.
I have owned this car for 6 years, it is a brilliant car, I love it, it is very reliable, you were correct with the service intervals, 10k service recommended, and I have replaced the door locks, other than that, no issues, I also have same year Range Rover sport, also great car, only issues there is stablizer bushes and door locks as well
Have one now done alot ot preventitve mechanical maintenance whatch the roof lining oil changes filters dont miss and timing belt change do it
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I've got a 07 HSE..excellent car ..400 nm of torque..farm track floods on a regular bases..no problem to freelander..keep it maintained it won't let you down..seen a nutcase tow 4.5 ton with one of the 40 miles!!!..and car still running no problem!
Awesome review fellas. Have just discovered this channel & super hooked already. Great work with it all around. As for the F2... We've just taken a 2012 HSE 7000km around Europe in 4 weeks. It did not miss a beat & has SUCH a comfortable ride. Seat comfort & quality is right up there. Only issue is that the driver's seat doesn't have the best legroom at max so tall drivers doing long distance should take note. The engine just felt like it would go forever though, we were never in doubt about it. A mechanic we had check over it before we left did have to replace the throttle body though which is a common issue. Steering can get a bit tiring if you're doing a lot of city driving as it's pretty heavy. I've also owned a Disco 3 & probably enjoyed the F2 more.
FL2's are known for having light steering, if yours feels heavy you may have some issues in the rack or elsewhere.
I purchased my FL2 with 5K on the clock in 2012. It was a dealership demo vehicle. It now has 73K of mostly highway driving with a trip from Weipa to Cairns every 12 months for a dealership service. The biggest disappointments for me are exacly as you have show. I now have what looks like a flaky snake skin dash (even tho it has had a dash mat covering since I have owned this car), the collapsed interior roof lining and the sticky doors from melted glue. Otherwise the car has been pretty good to me. One headlight bulb, 1 rear wheel bearing and currently 2 electric windows don't work. Twice It has had some electrical gremlins put it into limp mode during the wet season. I found that if you very very slowly push the accelerator pedal you can climb up to and sit on 80kms comfortably to get home. Both times I parked the car up under the carport for about 3 weeks and it had come good, go figure. It's survived 3 or 4 kangaroos on the PDR between Weipa and Cairns. I only wish I could get a decent bull bar installed. Love my car. Very comfortable for and old man. Plan on keeping it for a bit yet. Thanks for your video.
Have a 2013 SD4 Evoque owned from new (now with 130k on the clock) which is basically the same powertrain (2.2l diesel and 6AT), infortainment and electrical in a modified Freelander platform. Now have serviced at a LR Independent on 6 monthly / 10k service intervals at their recommendation. I think this review really is bang on well informed. My experience:
- EGR failed at 123k without warning. Stranded interstate. $2,800 repair.
- Timing chain and water pump replaced at 120k (as per this review, mechanic recommended the both be done at the same time - and are sold at a kit). $2.2k from memory (but think that also included major service).
- Interior has rattled since new - intensely frustrating - but otherwise looks new.
- First 9 months of ownership were painful, riddled with faults, then hassle free for years - other than routine servicing - until recently
- Odd electrical issue with dash faults that my mechanic sorts. There's a 12v battery under the passenger dash that caused a few (not all) of them before it was replaced about a year ago.
- For the past 18 months, engine / trans occasionally loses power, especialy from takeoff. Intermittent, haven't isolated issue. Mechanic said has seen same thing on Freelanders, but different causes. Sort of need it to get worse to better isolate it than spend money on what it might be. No fault codes.
- Silver trim on badge letters doesn't last, flakes off. Tatty. Replaced
Driven quite a lot of Freelanders (dealer loan cars), quite liked them in the day for what they were, but no way would I buy one now... too old and at the age where problems occur, that get expensive.
While the early Evoques did share the power train of the later Freelander 2's, they are very different vehicles in most other respects. I've spoken to quite a few mechanics that say the FL2 have far less general issues than the Evoque. I wouldn't use the Evoque as a comparison to a FL2. BTW, your issue with the engine losing power on takeoff sounds like a throttle body issue - very common and cheap to fix.
I've been waiting for this one :-)
Good review! So, I've had a top-spec 2014 HSE for the past couple of years, and I love the thing. I'm not getting the steering and suspension issues you mention here, so I find the steering precise and involving. Like you say, visibility is incredible - even the wing mirrors are off a Disco and are huge. It's shocklingly good off road. The truth is, of course it's a Land Rover and you have to expect the issues you get with complex Euro cars. BUT the Freelander 2 is seriously under-valued for what you get as a complete package, so even with a couple of repairs (which aren't that expensive, given it's Ford parts-bin construction) it's still not that big a risk. You might say that there are other options, but I don't think that there's many that really cover all the same bases that this does, and as well. I've found that - in general - other owners really love them.
Totally agree with you
I've had a 2013 LE LR2 since it was new. Love it. The paint looks like new. Interior also. I've never had any mechanical problems. The only major expense has been installing a new cloth ceiling because the original started hanging down in several places this year. I am looking in to having exterior cameras installed.
I've got one and had it from new 12 years.. It worked hard over all terrains all of it life as we are vets.. 239.800 miles in the uk all weathers rain snow and sun.. with no big problems but serviced on time it is a 2.2 td 4 manual 2010 and still a great car.. and still going strong...enigine and box never an issue.. had swirl flaps removed,, water pump and timing belts done 2 times oil changed every 9000 mile.. has had new door locks, haldex pump and diff bearing.. They do not have DPF'S .. I would buy another if they where still made.. Great cars..
Would you recommend me getting 1. I see someone selling it locally, asking 4.5k USD with 210k miles, perhaps if I offer him 2.5k, would that be a great deal?
@@vincentv1790 They handle the miles very well. 180k on mine and counting 👍
I bought an 09 XS 2.2 diesel manual model with 109,000 miles (UK). All I had was a throttle body fail (cheap on ebay and did it myself). Changed 2 front wheel bearings. Worth it's weight in gold.
Brilliant in the snow. Had it remapped to stage one, ran it on premium diesel. 36-38mpg regularly. Brilliant car.
What did the stage one bring it up to mate?
Loving the content fellas, keep it up :)
My 3.2 2011 L359 major replacements:
Throttle Body ( Unable to start when engine is warm )
Rear Differential Assembly ( Weleded bearing making low freq noises while driving )
Alternator&Overrunning Alternator Pulley（ Unable to charge the battery ）
Driverside Locking Mechanism
Now approaching 120k miles!! Other than that this is a great car to live with!!
Picked one up a 2010 for 10k. Premium Pack with Sunroof etc and 6 cyl engine. Can't complain, smooth very smooth drive. Right front Wheel hub needed replacing $500, 4 x new tyres made it even better. A/C unit with pulley on engine on way out and needs replacing. (Expensive around 1k). Alot better than buying a Japanese or Korean alternative IMO.
Why is a lot better?
@@goldfools5445 all round more luxury and solid feel when your driving over the others I've tested. Ie Nissan X Trail and Toyota Rav4s for example. The 6 cly engine goes well.
I mean for 10k plus 1.5k fixing that you’ve put in, not a lot of SUV are at that price point even with inflation adjusted.
@@manhhahlu I agree. It's worth the risk. Once you have the fixes done hopefully minimal you should have a quality ride for a few years more.
@@manhhahlu So, your saying a 2010 Japanese SUV wouldn't need money spending on it ? BuIIshit
i have a 2008 2.2 diesel 200.000km. everything brand new condition still. the only thing ive replaced is some tubes and breaking pads. oil change every 20k km. runs perfectly. great car. very underrated from people who dont know it. also i use it offroad all the time. has some oil stains on the engine sometimes on the outside but not any major leaks or oil lost. so i guess engine sweating oil its a normal thing for my car. i clean the engine once a year and its perfect.
I just bought one that is 2015 HSE LR2 here in America. But it had an issue that I had to return to the dealer I bought it from. But we shall see, I am excited to join the Freelander 2 family and hope to be in it for years to come.
When I looking what to buy, I tried Mazda CX-5, Kia Sportage, Skoda Yeti and VW Tiguan, and nothing was so suitable and comfortable for me. So just try different cars, and probably you will love LR.
Now I got HSE 2.2 TD 2010, 120K km, fortunately no gremlins =) And I do not looking for other car.
It's good on the highway 190km/h. It's good running up to 1000km per day with the best adjustable arm rest I ever tried. It's good on the soft offroad with the LR special modes and really good suspension articulation, which you will not find in other cars.
I had this car 2014 year of release. HSE AT 6, 2.2L Diesel with 190 hp and 420nm available at low rpm. Very good car, there were no breakdowns. Had good dynamics at accelerations and high reliability
+1 from me that this is a reliable car. Been exceptional for me and my family. The bad reputation Land Rover carries brings the price down (bonus). And in the states it comes with a great 6 cylinder Volvo engine mated to a Japanese Aisin Warner transmission (same transmission used in lots of Toyota’s). Will things break? Yes, it’s a car with thousands of moving parts. But don’t be misled by the negative hype.
Additionally, Land Rover owners are enthusiasts and I find as a home mechanic that an enthusiast car is much more pleasant to own because knowledge of repairs are all over the internet from fond owners.
Happy hunting if you’re in the market.
İ love mine, had it 6 years now, best car I've owned in terms of reliability. I don't plan on selling it any time soon.
best gentleman small suv, run smoothly 500k miles now with no major problem. Finest car for daily use here in Bavaria ✌🏻
I have a 2014 TD4 and had it since 2014. Love it. So smooth, and the only thing that has failed is an intake pipe which cost $180 to replace.
I've had a base model TD4 since 2011(new) and at 184,000km we still absolutely love it.
Love: Highway comfort and quiet; towing up to 2-tonnes braked, ‘that torque’, zero-fuss for 97% of off-roading.
Don’t love: fuel consumption (33-36mpg around town, 40mpg a rarity), no standard reversing camera (this model)
Hate: the local Land Rover dealership (I went to WA to buy mine, drove it back, lovely trip, still in front for $); ridiculous prices for genuine spares (but one can mail-order from the UK at half the dealer prices.)
Off-road: The Freelander will go most places a ‘genuine/low-range’ 4WD can go, except: extremely steep, deep mud/ruts, and dry sand (if mismanaged). All three times I’ve actually got it stuck were bellyflops because of Ground Clearance. With more clearance and diff-locks it would go even closer to a low-range 4WD. I’ve even had it towing ‘off-road’ and sometimes ‘it just walks over it’, other times it gets unexpected pause/slip, and one has to back up and rush it.
Problems: (almost none). Only gremlin was the LH rear window - would sometimes not close automatically - and then fix itself. And the (frankly, unnecessarily complicated) key system needed to be replaced in total at about 160Kkm, altogether about $1K at my super-competent local auto-electrician.
Engine/gearbox/differentials/other systems - no problems at all!
LH mirror got vandalised, and it was cheaper to get a replacement part shipped from the UK than it was to get one via the local dealer. (Tip: for nearly all significant spares).
Tips: If you’re going into the rough-stuff, the 17” rims are better - much wider range of off-road tyres (and on-road tyres). 18” rims are standard, and comfortable on-road, and have done rough stuff. 19” and above are a joke, IMHO. Pirelli Scorpion Zero (off-road version) perform very well in mud and clay.
The LR genuine towbar ‘box’ is 40mm; unique and single-purpose. An ARB is 50mm, a common fit for all manner of after-market inserts (and is half the price, and better!).
Tyre pressures are critical to best performance off-road, particularly sand, and on-road towing.
If you can find a low-mileage, well-cared for, properly serviced example, this really is a very pleasant car, particularly for long trips, perhaps with a medium caravan. But you’ll want to know in advance who and where the best LR mechanics are in your town (!). Routine servicing can be done by ‘ordinary mechanics’ but LR specialists will be better at preventative maintenance.
Had one for 3 years loved it, never had any problems, though servicing will sting a bit. It’s the only car I’ve owned that I still really now miss.
It's a brilliant car
But the drainage wholes from the sunroof if you have one can fill-up, which can lead to water backing up and in my case ruining the heated windscreen.
Owned it for 14yrs and don't want to part with it. Saved my crossing streams, in the snow rescued others etc.
The easiest best cruise control of any car I've owned
My sister had one of these. She traded it in and the dealer said it looked brand new for its age! She said it should look brand new because everything was bloody replaced 🤣.
Poor landy
Yea right
Same as all the Land Rover/Range Rover knockers, never actually owned one them selves, always a guy down the pub they know owned one.
@@johnmalin1676 my sister owned a Freelander 2, she is into horses and likes a 4x4 for getting about. The car was a total disaster, it had a fault with the brakes that the dealerahip could not resolve, the pedal would intermittently go soft and spongy?? It had quite a lot of electrical problems and engine management lighting up all the time. It had many parts replaced over a short period. However she did like the way it looked, designed and drove, she was disapointed that it really was an unreliable shit box.
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I brought my one HSE 2010 luxury. No complaints was 6k looks like brand new. My partner loves go to Lidl or London takes 2h. Not understanding GS makes. Like cheap Mercedes. Remapped now 210BHP consumes less diesel more power. I love
I've had Land Rover's, MINI's (modern) and Alfa's amongst other renowned 'shit' brands and they were no more or less 'shit' than the Porsche's, Subaru's, Toyota's, Ford's and Holden's. The worst cars I've had have been BMW's and Audi's.
I would buy a good history well loved Freelander 2 without issue if I needed one.
I am with yoh on this. On my 3rd Land Rover now and nothing but smiles. Had 2 Audiś that were nothing but rubbish and outrageously expensive to maintain.
Timing of this video is impeccable. I actually found the channel looking for a review on the Freelander 2
I'm looking to make a decision on the car post a Pre-Purchase inspection by Land Rover today. If it goes well and I do buy I'll update in a year on my experience.
Thanks for the superb video quality and appreciate the opinion.
I am planning to buy a 2014 model. Hows your experience so far?
I've had three of these cars. I love the FL2. No problems with any of them. I now drive a 2019MY Range Rover Evoque. 50K miles and no problems at all. They are very good, reliable and capable cars.
Try owning it past warranty
@@piotrnapora5810 I've owned all of mine past the warranty. What's your point?
@@thurstonhowell3569 My point is that at least in my experience ( 2014 Freelander 2 TD4) the Land Rover starts breaking much more often after warranty expires
@@piotrnapora5810 All been good with me so far. My wife runs a 2013 Freelander HSE and has had no problems. Luck of the draw, I guess.
Hi, I absolutely love your video/program/TV show. The approach to review old cars when they are no longer news, you nailed it. I just want to know when are you going to review a Hyundai Santa Fe 2007 2.2 dCRI and maybe a Volvo S80 2008 2.0 FlexiFuel ? I'm from Europe and I own both cars =)
Thanks so much, mate! That’s a great suggestion. We’ll get to it as soon as we can :)
I pick a one owner low mileage up this weekend so fingers crossed its one of the better ones
Love the channel. Would really enjoy a ReDriven review on the Toyota Fortuner (Toyota SW4 in Aus).
The Fortuner is massively popular in South Africa. Given the popularity of the Hilux in Australia, I’m surprised that the Fortuner isn’t a popular choice in Australia (from the brief research I did).
Could it be because the Land Cruiser Prado is more comfortable while offering similar interior space?
I had one, a 2013 SE diesel, I liked the off-road capability, but the second year I spent $5k on it the third year the transfer case went and it was going to cost $9k + for a new one, and the car was no longer worth it. I had the door lock issues, headlight bulbs always blowing, Bought a Jeep Renegade trailhawk and love it, but each to there own wouldn’t buy another one because of the constant issues I had with the one I got.
My Dad bought a TD4 Freelander 2 in 2014, one of the last Freelander 2's in Poland. It was a pain in the posterior from the beginnning. Countless warranty repairs. Less than a year after warranty expired (and less than 80k kilometers on the odo) the rear diff ate itself - dealer replaced that one for free as goodwill. Less than a year later the gearbox started leaking - 2k PLN to replace a stupid simering. Best part? It happened on the day that Polish MOT equivalent for the car was to expire - I had to ask the inspector guy for a favor or he wouldn't have passed me - and a day before an important family trip. A year after THAT the front left coil spring broke and destroyed the tire - another 2k+ PLN. Last year in august the transfer case bearings started howling - 6k PLN (about 130k kilometers). On January 6, the transfer case grenaded itself - 9k PLN. To sum up, ours is an unreliable piece of crap and made me want, I kid you not, a Toyota Prius.
I have one of these babies. I have the XS which is now 10 years old and still going strong. I bought it with very low km but it was already a few years old. It's a diesel and it has leather seats and Meridian audio. Despite the prmium image Land Rover goes for, they are generally stingy with features. When other carmakers put in MP3 capable players, they proudly put in their CD player. When others include digital speedo, they put in an analog one. Etc... Curiously, the Freelander 2 has a hidden antenna, so they do sometimes add a bit of random tech fruit.
I had the "doors won't lock" problem. The front door locks failed within a couple of months of each other, after about maybe 6 years of life. A typical issue, according to the LR specialist mechanic and the only really widespread problem with the FL2, others are mostly random.
I can just echo the advice on maintenance - especially for the diesel and especially if you often have short runs. Have I mentioned the importance of regular maintenance? :-) I have had the car serviced or at least looked over every 6 months or so, and I haven't had any serious problems so far. Dealer servicing is best avoided (I had bad experience) - find a good mechanic!
There was once an intermittent "Transmission failure. Traction reduced." error. An internet search led me to the dreaded "Haldex failure" which a few UK owners complained about. Luckily, it was solved with... drum roll... a battery replacement! The original battery lasted something like 6 years but it was getting weak. Apparently, when the voltage drops, some random errors can pop up which are not real. It happened to me again when I didn't drive the car much during COVID lockdown times and the battery was slowly discharging (the car still started OK, though). A quick charge topup fixed the issue and the problem hasn't come back since then. Now I tend to drive more so the battery is always charged.
I find the car practical and easy to live with. After 10 years, I still don't have the interior wear issues shown in the video but I always use a windscreen sunshade when it's very sunny. The AWD/traction control etc. works well and kept me out of trouble during overly spirited driving or unexpected road surface problems. Steering and shocks still feel good.
The white exterior is still pretty good. Some black surfaces changed their appearance a little bit but still OK. There was a facelift of the originallly released FL2 with improved looks (I have this latter one). Another update happened with the MY2013 with further cosmetic enhancements and I think they also added true keyless and electronic parking brake, among other things. My FL2 uses just over 10l/100km, in city driving. It does have a little turbo lag but not too bad and once it gets going, the engine pulls strong. Starting when the lights turn green, it's OK of the mark but once I hit about 50km/h, the other cars seem to drop back! :-) A small advantage of the older diesel engine is that I didn't get caught up in the Adblue shortage issue which affects the Disco Sport owners, for example. It eats hills for breakfast and easily handles mild offroad conditions but I never tried really rough stuff. Using Continental SUV tyres which are a good match.
At this rate and considering current car prices and availability, I will keep it for a few more years. It still doesn't look like an old car.
I've had several they are one of the best Land Rovers ever made, very reliable.
I might get a second one because I go on dirt a decent amount, it is nice to drive on the highway, and decent mileage. Got a 2008 with 165k miles. Doesn't eat oil.
I have been waiting for a review of this vehicle. I walked past one where the owner was loading groceries and upon asking how reliable, he replied "services ONLY". No problems up to the then 195 000kms. I owned series 1 Freelander which was a nightmare.
What sort of problems did you have?
@@jonathanwishart9104 on series ONE many. Elecrical problems: relays blown. Mechanical: Diesel starvation, boost pressure sensor(s), airflow sensors (as per LR invoices). Verrrry hard starter - no problem with the starter motor, but would not cold start even in our summers of above 23 degrees celsius. Poor performance, very high diesel consumption. Central locking, and so the list goes on...
@@friedookiehil Thankyou for that. I already feel second hand pain from hearing that list. I'll be crossing all land rover's off my list.
I have a 2009 SE spec, absolutely love it!
I had no real issues with the FL1 and now have a FL2. It is 14 years old and still going, though I do need to replace the power transfer unit now. Apart from that it has been pretty solid. I would replace the car but there aren't that many affordable options. The Disco sport is affordable, though the engines in some of the later ones tend to implode a bit.
FYI, the little cubby hole in the centre can be used to fit an Xtrons android head unit that connects to the stereo. I have one and it works very well for adding Android auto/Apple car play.
I have one from 2010. Not a problem car. Love it!
This car was left in the sun for long periods of time. The interior of my 2012 Landover is still great except for the armrest that is not covered with real leather.
Should be able to leave car in the sun, it's Australia 😅😅
I have had 3, brilliant! people kept telling me get a Nissan, so I bought an X Trail! "Worst car I have ever had, nightmare! |£4000 in engine repairs, total junk! Renault engine, total shit, loads of filter issues! scrapped!! went back to a Freelander, brilliant!
If you look closely at the Renault symbol...Its a jack stand...a sissor jack to be more precise...
Good review as always guys.
Note: Cheat Sheet link missing in description.
Legend… thanks!
I have a td4 manual Freelander 2, and it’s excellent
Just keep an eye on you battery health and alternator. Lots of electrical weird things and codes occure and can mislead the mechanics when the battery is starting to go bad
Good comment, so so true! 👍
Correct, and the same can be said for most Land Rovers of this vintage.
Land Rovers are built for their towing & off-road abilities with farmers in mind! I am dissatisfied that you failed to show the Freelander 2 true abilities. Off-road it is one of the better ones with many people chuffed to bits with how well it copes. Most people buy them for these genuine reasons, though you are right that there are just a few snobs who buy Land Rover just for the brand without any intention to use them for what they are designed for... Off road & towing.
Hi Julia, thanks so much for watching and commenting.
We would have loved to show the FL2's true abilities however, it wasn't our car, we borrowed it from a friend and the area that we film in was quite literally under water with floods just days earlier and off-roading was a strict no no.
As the cars we feature are not press cars or supplied by a manufacturer, and are generally borrowed from friends and family, we're extremely hesitant to miss treat them or even risk damaging them in anyway. - AK
I've got a 2010 HSE 2.2 TD4 and have had it from new. The only thing that's gone wrong is the Haldex unit and that was after 8 years. The old girl has got a full service history and I'm in no hurry to change her for something else.
You really need to drive 2013/14 - model - it would be a completely different review. Best car I have ever had.
Отличная машина!
Не понятно зачем Компания Jaguar Land Rover в 2014 году сняла её с производства, ведь за 5 месяцев до этого в отчётных данных модель Freelander-2 занимала 42% в общем объеме продаж модельного ряда Land Rover ...
Уверен, что если эту модель выпустят на рынок сейчас (добавят новую мультимедиа Pivi Pro и электропривод двери багажника), то она снова станет number1!
Во всяком случае у нас в России точно!
Is that a E38 7 series in the background of Jim's segment? Please review that car!
Think you are a bit harsh saying probably do not buy one. I had one until a few weeks ago when it was written off. Maybe I was lucky as in over 7 years ownership nothing expensive repair reared its head. Agree get the cambelt and water pomp done much sooner than LR reckon did mine at 70k miles, is not that expensive. Never seen one with a roof lining coming away like yours. Finally the seat squabs are not leather. The bit your bum sits on is but not the squabs they are vinyl. They have a tendency to split and look really naff. I think cause is heavy drivers getting in on a cold winters day. The vinyl will be quite stiff and only softens up when the car gets warm.
Loving the bmw in the background while Jim is talking. More interested in that.
I can’t remember the book saying 24k service intervals. Pretty sure that’s the discovery sport with the ingenium motors.
We had one, Really did like it. The only thing I did not like was that it had the turning circle of a lorry. 😂
Very unfair on the freelander 2. They are very reliable, i had 2.2l TD4 XE 2007, never a problem, traded in for 2014 td4 HSE, still using it without issues. I also owned a freelander 1 TD4, and the only issue i had with that, was seized glow plugs in the engine, and guess what ? it was a BMW 2.0L engine.
Hi John, thanks so much for watching and commenting.
It's great to hear you've had excellent experiences with your FL2s but please know, we put in hours of research to do our best to deliver as balanced and fair assessments of the cars we feature as we can.
While you've had a great ownership experience, many others unfortunately haven't. - AK
@@ReDriven But the same could be said for a lot of 10 - 15 yo vehicles.
@@johnmalin1676 We complexity agree John. However, there are also a huge number of 10 - 15 yo Toyota, Lexus, Mazda and Honda owners out there that generally speaking, have either no or incredibly few issues or complaints, even if their vehicle has missed a few services here and there.
We find LR (and many euro) products when maintained perfectly can and will stand the test of time, but missing a service or two can result in disaster.
Whereas we've seen multiple cars from Japanese and South Korean manufacturers miss multiple services, be driven to near abuse levels and not suffer from the same result. - AK
Hi. I notice that you've reviewed most of the mainstream small cars except the Honda Civic. Can we get a review of that?
Had my 2013 freelander for 110000 miles apart from the door lock unit ( made in Germany)I replaced my self it’s been trouble free , I don’t normally keep cars long but this ones a keeper.
I’ve had my 2013 HSE sd4 for over a year now picked it up with documented 45k.. annoyingly my front passenger side doesn’t unlock on the key.. home fix I’m hoping.
@@gw2891 It is a security feature. You need to press 'open' several times to open the other doors.
We are very fond of ours but it had one electrical problem it intermittently would not start that foxed Land Rover even sending down a mechanic from the HQ eventually it turned out that the wire which stops the engine starting if you don’t have your foot on the brake in an automatic was warn ! We have a manual so that wire does nothing in ours!
love it....mind you I have one (2008) that is, nice to drive and very comfortable, but not really cheap to run here in the UK, but hey worth it
I've got the 2.2 se it's a 2014 I've got 23,000 miles I've had the rear dif oil problem that's a common fault and the turbo actuator go both I feel should have been a manufacturer recall but Land rover point blank said no so I've had to pay to get these fixed other than that it's a lovely car so I won't be selling it I just won't be using main dealers ever again for services or any maintenance.
My old discovery 1 with the 3.9 it was so reliable and did over 500,000km i absolutely loved it the 3.9 is a good engine
2012 37000 miles for 15 k pounds drives great in mint condition, a mate who works for Landrover /jaguar says the Freelanders are bullet proof,,not the more expensive Landsy though,having said that my brothers Landy a MK 2 is a 1962 and still going strong
cheers
i got one with cash. and i like it. our road is so so bad that we need a good 4w car, and we love our nr.2
Have 2007 version. Main issue was power steering whine and stiffening. Also needs stabilizer bushes. Otherwise ok
Ok so want to do a bit of touring around oz. Some low level off-roading such as dirt tracks to campsites / beach camping. I’m purely looking at FL2 because of price. Much cheaper than a Pajero or Prato. Can. You fit a roof top tent on a fl2
the car is incredible, very reliable. perhaps the one selected for the video is in very poor condition and does not do it justice and tarnishes the model and brand
2010 LR2 3.2V6, 160000 KMS. Running smoothly on the roads of UAE. Cracks on the dashboard, roof cloth trouble. spend around $1000 for repairs ( Smalls ones). The braking is not that great. Heavy and safe venhicle.
Having been in the motor trade for many years this vehicle is probably the least troublesome Land Rover, yes they have their issues but most are fairly easy and not to expensive to sort.
Problem areas seem to be rear diff bearings get noisy, Haldex units sometimes need a rebuild but often it’s only a fluid service and Haldex filter change, engine seems very good as it’s a Peugeot unit, door locks and electric windows can give problems..
IF I were to buy a Land Rover it would be this one, I’ve owned series Land Rovers an Defenders for forty years but now have a Hilux as Land Rover no longer sell “working” vehicles. 🇬🇧
I would buy a Hilux, but parking something that large where I live would be a bit of an issue. The FL2 is the perfect size for me. Big, but not too big.
Whats the mpg like on these thinking of getting one
i have a 2014 si4 freelander and its pretty good has never broken down with 105500 kms though the headlights keep braking and there pricey lights
Being an Australian living in Ireland Freelander 2 is the ideal car for me they are a colder climate vehicle you know icey snowie road kinda car and not bad in slushy mud for Australia buy a Toyota or Jeep.
I had this question a while ago. Glad you answered it! Only negative coment is your white shoes and black socks are a crime
I had a 2011 TDSE and apart from replacing the rack & pinion, power steering and turbo it was a bloody great car. I had the chip re-mapped and it gave it a bit of pizazz (is that a word?)
61.4K, pushing 100K!!! Awesome boys!!
Is that a Seiko Turtle? Nice going out shoes btw 😂
This won't apply to Aus but corrosion resistance is poor and my experience in the UK is that a well used 2008 will have a lot of corrosion underneath. Otherwise power steering hose has a steel section exposed to the rh wheel arch and will rust through early. Slot - in ignition key inthe dash seems too complicated and likely to be prone to failure. Otherwise too early to comment.
I bought my first triton 94 mh 4x4 ute 2.6 petrol 311k my mate got a freelander 87k 2012 3 yrs latter he spent 7.8k on the freelander. The triton is still going now 570k still going just service costs now my 3rd triton mn now .and the freelander is still a money pit . Against my first triton not bad for a 2.5k ute
@ReDriven The AU delivered diesels don't have a DPF. Cant have a problem with something it doesn't have!
Great review as always, Freelander 2 was on the list a few years ago but bit if a Mitsubishi fanboi - Please please do a review of the QE Pajero Sport... Although not available in North America unfortunately.