He's my idol. He has been since I was 13 or younger, and 20 something years later I'm trying to get sober and I remember "oh yeah Trent Reznor is fucking sober" and I keep going. The only person I'm comfortable calling "genius."
Being sober is worth the fight. In January I made it past 5 years and the more time passes the more I become more like my true self, less controlled by my fears, I have a tangible confidence that I never had my whole life and I can trust myself and love myself again. I have my shitty periods (there's enough shit to regret even without crossing that line) but I never have a drink or drug. Even when life feels empty I KNOW IT'S REAL and I would rather know it's bad than PRETEND it's good when it's actually bad. I'm finally breaking through to the stages where I am really facing and healing from some of the deep trauma that has kept me in chains my whole life. I wanna know the truth, I don't want to lie to myself anymore. And, coming back to the catalyst topic here, I found this interview a few months after it came out and it made my respect level go way up and got me curious to finally explore Trent's full catalog... I now consider him one of my favorite artists and I am pretty picky about who makes it onto that list Haha. His music came at this perfect time for me and is giving me intense courage to feel my feelings again, ugly or tender, explore myself and basically just try to be a real human being in all its messy artful glory. He is a bad ass. I'm gonna write him a song one of these days. Sorry this comment is fucking long, wow...
I wish you the best on getting sober. I've been clean from IV heroin/meth since 2018 after about 15 years of use. If I can do it anyone can. I don't know you but I've got faith in you, you got this.
Reminds of the writer William Gibson - grows up in small town America pre-internet, and goes on to be a pioneer of Science Fiction with his novel Neuromancer, that was a masterpiece of the emerging cyberpunk genre and included elements like artificial intelligence, hacking, the matrix (his term in the book for the internet) and more. He literally invented the word "Cyberspace" for the book. And he wrote Neuromancer on a typewriter.
i live in boston and people always say boston is a funny town, and it is, but my cousins from Missouri are funnier than anyone i know here and it's because all they had was banter for entertainment
This show is my favorite discovery since that time in 1985 when I figured out how to position the rabbit ears just right to tune in to Heathcliff on channel 12 of my tiny black & white TV.
Jesus man...that weirdly particular anecdotal story straight up time traveled me back to sitting on carpet in front of a TV in the early 1908s as a child.
What a remarkable interviewer Rubin was here. Just knew how to carefully guide the conversation without being in any way overbearing or overshadowing his guest. Such a unique insight into my favourite artist :)
Will somebody just give Trent like 6 hours to talk? He articulates so many details it's music to my ears. Missing pieces from the whole: The Quake Soundtrack, The Fragile, Ken Burns Vietnam War score, producing Saul Williams, that track with HEALTH in 2020, Hesitation Marks backup singer tour and the art exhibit, Mariqueen's albums, touring and playing with Dillinger, did he hang up the Swarmatron? So many questions. Who would score the 12hr Ken Burns documentary on Trent Reznor?
Please YES-So many things we want to know but it's up to Trent what he wants to share. I would buy a book if he ever chose to write one. A book about whatever he wants to write about. If it included lyrics-poetry-pictures-opinions-,true stories-jokes-Anything-I'm interested. Share your genius with us please Trent Reznor. Especially as something that will live on forever for many many many many future generations. We don't know how long this Internet will last. We don't know if these concerts online will forever be available for people to watch as they are now-I am so grateful for that. Books can last forever. That's a book that I would treasure.
Can we get a part 2(3 or 4) where Trent talks about The Fragile and other albums, the process of his music creation, his relationships with key figures like Rob Sheridan & Alan Moulder and other details behind his creative process?
It sounds like you would like the podcast called Nailed. If you like dissecting NiN albums both lyrically and sonically than this will be right up your alley.
Im 45, and Reznor has been an inspiration to me for 25+ years now. Ever since I first brought The Downward Spiral, which was my introduction to NIN (and magically came into my life when I was at a very low point, and somehow "saved" me), I've been hooked on everything creative this guy has done. I'm not a guy that typically idolises celebrities or musicians in general, but honestly, Trent Reznor has become some sort of idol to me. He's a fucking genius. Also, what an incredible interview, from one of the greatest producers in history! Who would have guessed that Rick Ruben is also a brilliant interviewer/host!
10 years old I snuck alone to see downward spiral tour.. I was already a musician. But that show changed my life and sent me down a rabbit hole of learning synths and producing /sound design in general.
"I promised myself something." How rarely I hear those words today. I'm reading a great book called Shame right now. Nobel prize for literature last year. Trent reminds me of it. It's so brilliant. Unique. We should all overcome what brings us shame. The old fast one. I can't thank you enough, Rick. For everything.
Trent is responsible for the soundtrack of my life - my background music. Can't imagine a single memory without his chords echoing from some distant place.
It gives me a lot of angst having all this bombarding of "content" , music, movies, shows ,Netflix, Spotify, etc., it's like an overload, but at the same time, everything feels so much lighter, missing that weight Trent and Rick mention. I'm 53 and I've been playing and recording with a 25 y/o hip hop artist who also plays guitar and makes songs (meaning not just rap songs), we have great musical connection but our approach to composing and listening to music is completely different. Like for example, he has no concept of what a band rehearsal is and having that discipline of rehearsing 2/3 times a week, every week, or always listening to complete albums, for days and days instead of lose songs from here and there. In fact he doesn't have the concept of like "top 5 favorite bands", it's more like they are always into the latest thing which changes pretty rapidly. Also a while ago I played Random Access Memories - DaftPunk for him, he obviously knew several of the songs but had never heard the whole album..., so he was pretty mind blown to discover the whole concept of the album, got a completely different perspective to all those songs. This example is kinda metalanguage since the album's concept sort of has to do with this precise issue "give life back to music". Anyway, fascinating stuff but makes me anguished.
Trent has always been WAY AHEAD OF HIS TIME!!! One hundred years from now (if this human race is still functional) folks will still listen to his work. I'm just glad I discovered him from the very beginning and grown along with his visionary music. Atlanta Ga loves you Trent! Thanks for performing on my birthday at Phillips Arena a while back for the Beside You In Time Tour with QOTSA!!!! That will always be a moment never forgotten.
Thank you for releasing this conversation. I worked at Trent’s studio in New Orleans that Rick talks about going to. It’s great to hear Trent talk about those early years, and what it was like to create The Downward Spiral. Thank you 🙏🏻
New Orleans studio… that s one of those things that acted to me like a big wave… all the “machine” behind, the secrets, the tricks, the rabbit hole ! I understand his position now…since once he said to not sing head like a hole forever. time has arrived.
Wow. The impact both of you have had in my life is difficult to put into words. It feels almost voyeuristic listening to this intimate conversation between two people who have infinite trust and confidence in each other.
@1:46:41 "What it comes down to is, I really enjoy weirdly working in service to something." -Reznor. I can absolutely relate to this as well. My best work is when my purpose is in this approach.
I'm so glad I live at the same time as Trent Reznor and get to follow his music and what he has to say in my lifetime. He is a true artist, a phenomena, a rarity of a soul, talent and principles, for a lack of a better word. Thank you for this interview
I like how Trent calmly takes a big breath and takes his time to calculate an interesting answer. You can tell it’s stream or consciousness but he doesn’t meander.
Thank you for putting this together Rick. The downward spiral literally shaped who I was as a young teenager. Song meanings aside, the sound you created Trent was the score of my life. I remember fantasizing about working with Trent in the studio to help create more tracks like "reptile" and "a warm place." Now 40, I have yet to hear someone create the perfect industrial sound that Trent did so well. It was beautiful yet hanted me as I listened to it on my discman as I fell asleep.
Was going to put this on while doing errands this morning but ended up just sat in bed listening from start to finish. Such a captivating and insightful interview - huge thank you to both
Rick, thank you for this fantastic and insightful interview with the legend Trent Reznor. It's so refreshing to hear people talk about the art, value, and appreciation of music. Visiting record shops, listening to an album with full attention and maybe not quite getting it on first listen, but after a few more listens it grows and makes an impact. A much more intimate and invested relationship with music compared to today's constantly moving "content" factory. Also to note, I love the old school aesthetic and presentation of these podcasts and look forward to more of these.
I just found this channel through a news article on NIN and I truly appreciate the weight in the discussion, everything else out there feels micro-edited to keep the discussion rolling word after word after word (removing the pause between responses and every um or ah). This conversation felt so human and warm to me, I was hanging off every word. Just want to show my appreciation for that.
20 years and still until this day this man, this human being (Trent Reznor) has been my hero just due to the fact he followed through with what he believed in and followed through with what little he started out with and how he's come from something of very little, but was driven by an place and nature to inspire those who are in the dump and to push themselves to be more than what hey are and where. i've been in the lowest of lows but never as much as those of others who have been in such absolute low and depression, life's hard and such unique and absolute artist come from nothing at times and know how to truly connect with those around them.
To Rick and Trent both about Shazam - I totally agree with both yall. It's changed, but I love Shazam for the same reason that Rick mentioned. I found Massive Attack and Sigar Ros because I look up movie scores. Wojciech Kilar's score for Dracula was one of my first long before shazam, and still, I immediately looked up the OST of Only Lovers Left Alive because I loved the music. I Shazam shit all the time. And, yes we are getting older and we're becoming like every generation before (Sting saying there's no good music being made anymore in interview) but I admire, love, the fact that Trent looked into his daughter's music, and Rick talked about Shazaming music...there will forever be music lovers out there, searching for something new and not wanting to be trapped in a generational loop of classic rock, rap or whatnot radio station. My favorite find of recent is The Slow Readers Club.
I love how endearing Rick sounds to Trent. It sounds like he was the person who Trent was looking for during his career. And when he found Rick, Rick reciprocated those feelings and nurtured his talent in a way that was best for Trent, rather than the label. Loved this interview.
I've seen (and heard) quite a few interviews of Reznor over the years. This is easily one of his best, most insightful and most transparent I've heard in a while. I love how Rubin gathers so much by doing so little. (As we all know, he's also a genius.)
At the 1:01:34 mark, Rick Rubin claims that nobody else was making alternative rock music the way Trent was. What about Ministry's "The Land of Rape and Honey", it came out a year before "Pretty Hate Machine." There was also J.G. Thirlwell and Foetus, Negativland, Skinny Puppy, Meat Beat Manifesto...the list goes on. Trent's contribution is obviously substantial and he's a musical genius, but it's not like he was all alone in '89.
Yeah Trent def pulled from Skinny Puppy when PHM came out. I remember seeing him open for Puppy and never would’ve thought they were going to become what they did; he’ll the backing reel failed at the show.
Trent Reznor has been such a huge influence and inspiration on me! Always so well-spoken and eloquent. I'm sad to hear he's not interested in creating new NIN anymore, but I'm very happy that he has evolved into an amazing film composer with Atticus Ross. They're a hell of a team! If some of you are interested, I do a lot of covers on my channel including one from Halsey's album produced by the Reznor/Ross duo. I'd be happy to know what you think!
Totally agree about missing the way we used to exexperience music. Sitting on the bus on the way home with your latest purchase from the record store, reading the liner notes. Then putting the thing on and listening to the whole album. One piece of coherent, cohesive art (if it was done well). Albums were an important art form for me, still are. How the songs hang together, the journey they take you on. Special.
we may have info overload and adhd consumption of media today but on the flip side I just listen to two of my heroes spill their soul for free, what a privilege. ❤
Trent/nin really got me through the most difficult times in my life... but also celebrated to the sounds of nin when I finally came out the other side too...
I grew up in new orleans ,,Right around the time Trent moved to nola I was coming of age,,for that I thank him. It was so fun running into him in the bars on Decatur st.
Just a purely authentic conversation between friends and collaboratirs. I've been enamored with Trent's music since the very beginning and was fortunate to see NIN at the OG Lollapalooza when I was just 19. Thanks for this!
I like the points he makes about how we used to consume music in the old days.... for me it was the 80's, and you truly did commit to the music you liked and owned. As a kid you saved your allowance or had to get your hands on it exerting some real effort. It was part of your identity and would attract you to like minded friends with similar tastes and interests. I remember putting on records and singing along with your friends or siblings. Everyone would have their favorites and sometimes several people would like the hits or whatever, but I remember being drawn to many of the more obscure songs on B sides. Those were some great experiences as a kid.
Happy Birthday Trent Reznor..... Yesterday actually but I guess it depends where you are when you're reading this. Thanks for posting this wonderfully interesting interview.
Trent, please give me one more piece of you and Nine Inch Nails before you leave the earth. As a father myself, I understand. It just makes me realize all good things come to an end. I was lucky to see you live, beautiful experience that I will forever treasure. I very much hope for one more project or album. I don't know, I just don't want it to end. ALSO I wish we put a focus on "The Fragile" in this episode! Warm regards, Long lifetime fan.
this was really cool, i love deep conversation with people like Trent, he drops his guard a little bit and i feel like we really get to see how Trent talks with his friends. just a humble, down to earth guy that loves music and takes his craft very seriously. i love it
NiN is my favorite band, too. & my husband is a funeral director/embalmer. This is awesome. Thank you for posting this. My brother, Michael, introduced NiN to me when I was 8 or 9. He’s 4&1/2 years older than I am. I’ve loved them ever since.
Two of the realest there ever were. Would love and appreciate a deeper discussion on how music has changed in pop culture (near the end of this episode). Thanks to you both and love to all
A truly enjoyable experience to listen to this interview. I also appreciate the unabridged format especially in this day and age where there seems to be a fear of long-form content. Bravo 👏🏽
I don’t know what tour Rick was referring to, but he’s right. In my opinion, Trent nailed what he was attempting to accomplish on the Pretty Hate Machine tour…. I saw that show at city Gardens in Trenton, New Jersey and if memory serves, they opened with terrible lie, and after hundreds, if not thousands of shows in my life that one and that opener are in the top five.
Trent sounded so tired at the first half, lol. I find it funny that a musician as creative as Trent would suffer from a type of "imposter syndrome" like thinking he didnt have a good story to tell etc. Or anything to say. And yet he's prolly one of the most accomplished musicians from this era that commands respect from everyone in the industry.
That was the best interview with Trent that I've ever heard. I've been a fan of this guys music since 94 and this is the first time that I feel like I got to know a bit of him from an interview. Each time that Trent started to reel it back in from digressing I was saying to myself: "No, keep going".
How can a podcast with fucking Rick Rubin not be more popular? So glad i found this. Trent is hands down my favorite musician/composer/musical genius type of all time.
In late 2007 to early 2008, I had been aware of Nine Inch Nails for some time. I had (of course) heard "Closer" on the radio and Cash's cover of "Hurt", the latter was something of a gateway. The first album I bought was "Pretty Hate Machine", in the summer of 2008, at a local record store. It changed my life and alongside Radiohead, probably got me through my high school years. To this day, I think "The Fragile" is his masterpiece.
An amazingly extraordinary artist. Trent has been one of my all-time favorite artists. There is no one that has inspired me more with my music. Although completely different style than my songs but he has a uniqueness that cannot be put into words. Just amazing raw emotions to soothe the soul in. Loved this interview.
NIN toured in my city and they played two days in a row. I went to both shows, the second day I was expecting to see the same thing again, and they actually played a different set of songs, it was a different show… so what he says about keeping it authentic and real: true.
Me hearing Reznor saying he didn't have any context for Day la soles makes me feel beter. That is the way I felt about NIN when I first heard them. I later became a huge NIN fan but the first time i heard them I was coming from a thrash metal background. I had no comtext for it and didn't get it at all.
Yes! I still buy CD's. I may rip them to my computer and listen to them on my smartphone, but I want to look at the album "sleeve" and the artwork. People put effort into that, and it adds a dimension to the album beyond the recording. I don't use any music streaming services, but will occasionally look for songs on RUclips. There's still a few record shops around here, but it's getting tougher to get ahold of physical media. I fear downloads and streaming may end up being the only option before long.
Born in 84, Trent was my escape, especially in 94. I remember being amazed, confused and immersed by his sound. Fast forward, as a grown man and sound designer these days, it’s so cool how I can hear this conversation and truly relate to it in every way. In short, this interview is an absolute gift, thank you guys 🏆
God damnit yes!! Thank you for saying it, please put the album sleeves back in these digital albums! Why can't people who give a shit be the ones to design and implement these streaming apps?!
I’ll never forget when I saw him with bauhaus at the Idaho center 15 years ago or so not knowing any of the openers, to say the least it was an amazing performance and even to this day I still say it was way ahead of it’s time with the 100 plus foot led walls hanging from the rafters looking like chain link and then when they came on being blown away. Not to mention influential on the electronic aspect fucking gold my man this is a great humanization in this interview I’ve felt much the same way being melancholic about my beginnings thank you 🙏
Whoop Whoop yes ! Broken ! When that MF dropped the neighborhood went crazy . The whole story about hurt is one of those stories like yeah one night he seen this dude kill somebody , then a couple nights later he’s on stage singin a song and there he was , the killer , out in the crowd - that song hurt , it meant so much to me , people I’m close to , plus I wasn’t into cash , plus I wasn’t into country , it was like wtf is going on here . But it worked and it was perfect and it was perfect . How do you do something two completely different ways and in the end both are perfect ? Amazing . I c Ant sing along with that song , I choke up . Thanks guys ! Love you
I want to watch this. George Romero gave me a ?phobia about tvs inside tvs. From the emergency broadcasting message in the movie. I'm glad this is okay to just listen to.
How does a podcast with arguably the greatest music producer in history only draw 13k subs, damn the RUclips competition must be getting crazy for this to be the case
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This is by far the best Reznor interview.
He's my idol. He has been since I was 13 or younger, and 20 something years later I'm trying to get sober and I remember "oh yeah Trent Reznor is fucking sober" and I keep going. The only person I'm comfortable calling "genius."
Stay Strong 💗
Being sober is worth the fight. In January I made it past 5 years and the more time passes the more I become more like my true self, less controlled by my fears, I have a tangible confidence that I never had my whole life and I can trust myself and love myself again. I have my shitty periods (there's enough shit to regret even without crossing that line) but I never have a drink or drug. Even when life feels empty I KNOW IT'S REAL and I would rather know it's bad than PRETEND it's good when it's actually bad. I'm finally breaking through to the stages where I am really facing and healing from some of the deep trauma that has kept me in chains my whole life. I wanna know the truth, I don't want to lie to myself anymore. And, coming back to the catalyst topic here, I found this interview a few months after it came out and it made my respect level go way up and got me curious to finally explore Trent's full catalog... I now consider him one of my favorite artists and I am pretty picky about who makes it onto that list Haha. His music came at this perfect time for me and is giving me intense courage to feel my feelings again, ugly or tender, explore myself and basically just try to be a real human being in all its messy artful glory. He is a bad ass. I'm gonna write him a song one of these days. Sorry this comment is fucking long, wow...
@@viviave8I wrote a long comment to you earlier but it disappeared????? Keep up the good fight man
I wish you the best on getting sober. I've been clean from IV heroin/meth since 2018 after about 15 years of use. If I can do it anyone can. I don't know you but I've got faith in you, you got this.
I love you all
He defintiely achieved his vision of nine inch nails live. One of the best live bands i have ever heard!
Never underestimate the power that small towns have to be so boring that they inspire artistic creative expression.
Truth!
Reminds of the writer William Gibson - grows up in small town America pre-internet, and goes on to be a pioneer of Science Fiction with his novel Neuromancer, that was a masterpiece of the emerging cyberpunk genre and included elements like artificial intelligence, hacking, the matrix (his term in the book for the internet) and more. He literally invented the word "Cyberspace" for the book. And he wrote Neuromancer on a typewriter.
@@Element8909That's cool-I need to look that up- Read it
@@Crunkachu Wish I could read it for the first time again, what a classic
i live in boston and people always say boston is a funny town, and it is, but my cousins from Missouri are funnier than anyone i know here and it's because all they had was banter for entertainment
I could listen to Trent all day.
Wonderful interview, rare to hear someone being so open and blunt. Thanks to all involved.
This show is my favorite discovery since that time in 1985 when I figured out how to position the rabbit ears just right to tune in to Heathcliff on channel 12 of my tiny black & white TV.
Jesus man...that weirdly particular anecdotal story straight up time traveled me back to sitting on carpet in front of a TV in the early 1908s as a child.
This is the second time today I’ve heard someone mention Heathcliff. Weird.
Bro, Heathcliff was the "Hood" Garfield and my favorite cartoon 🐈
This show is my favorite discovery since that time in 1985 when I figured out how to reposition myself in my mother's womb.
@rigocolas and you also saw Heathcliff
What a remarkable interviewer Rubin was here. Just knew how to carefully guide the conversation without being in any way overbearing or overshadowing his guest. Such a unique insight into my favourite artist :)
Will somebody just give Trent like 6 hours to talk? He articulates so many details it's music to my ears.
Missing pieces from the whole:
The Quake Soundtrack, The Fragile, Ken Burns Vietnam War score, producing Saul Williams, that track with HEALTH in 2020, Hesitation Marks backup singer tour and the art exhibit, Mariqueen's albums, touring and playing with Dillinger, did he hang up the Swarmatron? So many questions.
Who would score the 12hr Ken Burns documentary on Trent Reznor?
Please YES-So many things we want to know but it's up to Trent what he wants to share.
I would buy a book if he ever chose to write one. A book about whatever he wants to write about. If it included lyrics-poetry-pictures-opinions-,true stories-jokes-Anything-I'm interested.
Share your genius with us please Trent Reznor. Especially as something that will live on forever for many many many many future generations. We don't know how long this Internet will last. We don't know if these concerts online will forever be available for people to watch as they are now-I am so grateful for that. Books can last forever. That's a book that I would treasure.
Wouldn't it be amazing to have a sit down with him?
There’s a fragile documentary on RUclips that’s pretty good
Apparently he also worked with Dr. Dre
Can we get a part 2(3 or 4) where Trent talks about The Fragile and other albums, the process of his music creation, his relationships with key figures like Rob Sheridan & Alan Moulder and other details behind his creative process?
It sounds like you would like the podcast called Nailed. If you like dissecting NiN albums both lyrically and sonically than this will be right up your alley.
@@bryan123483 is that available on youtube or on Spotify?
There's a documentary made in 99 ,search youtube it's literally just the why when and how of the fragile.
@@bryan123483
Thank you so much for this information..
I'm going to check it out right after this .
Im 45, and Reznor has been an inspiration to me for 25+ years now.
Ever since I first brought The Downward Spiral, which was my introduction to NIN (and magically came into my life when I was at a very low point, and somehow "saved" me), I've been hooked on everything creative this guy has done. I'm not a guy that typically idolises celebrities or musicians in general, but honestly, Trent Reznor has become some sort of idol to me. He's a fucking genius.
Also, what an incredible interview, from one of the greatest producers in history! Who would have guessed that Rick Ruben is also a brilliant interviewer/host!
10 years old I snuck alone to see downward spiral tour.. I was already a musician. But that show changed my life and sent me down a rabbit hole of learning synths and producing /sound design in general.
"I promised myself something."
How rarely I hear those words today.
I'm reading a great book called Shame right now. Nobel prize for literature last year. Trent reminds me of it. It's so brilliant. Unique.
We should all overcome what brings us shame. The old fast one.
I can't thank you enough, Rick. For everything.
Trent was singing to a Degree you couldn't get in college.
I need to overcome God. God brings me shame. So do people. 😂
Trent is responsible for the soundtrack of my life - my background music. Can't imagine a single memory without his chords echoing from some distant place.
I could listen to Trent talk all day.
Rick is such a good interviewer ... He lets Trent talk, asks open-ended questions ... Good job Rick!
It gives me a lot of angst having all this bombarding of "content" , music, movies, shows ,Netflix, Spotify, etc., it's like an overload, but at the same time, everything feels so much lighter, missing that weight Trent and Rick mention. I'm 53 and I've been playing and recording with a 25 y/o hip hop artist who also plays guitar and makes songs (meaning not just rap songs), we have great musical connection but our approach to composing and listening to music is completely different. Like for example, he has no concept of what a band rehearsal is and having that discipline of rehearsing 2/3 times a week, every week, or always listening to complete albums, for days and days instead of lose songs from here and there. In fact he doesn't have the concept of like "top 5 favorite bands", it's more like they are always into the latest thing which changes pretty rapidly. Also a while ago I played Random Access Memories - DaftPunk for him, he obviously knew several of the songs but had never heard the whole album..., so he was pretty mind blown to discover the whole concept of the album, got a completely different perspective to all those songs. This example is kinda metalanguage since the album's concept sort of has to do with this precise issue "give life back to music".
Anyway, fascinating stuff but makes me anguished.
What kind of music do the two of you play?
Trent has always been WAY AHEAD OF HIS TIME!!! One hundred years from now (if this human race is still functional) folks will still listen to his work. I'm just glad I discovered him from the very beginning and grown along with his visionary music.
Atlanta Ga loves you Trent! Thanks for performing on my birthday at Phillips Arena a while back for the Beside You In Time Tour with QOTSA!!!! That will always be a moment never forgotten.
Seen them in Toronto on that tour. Amazing, life changing!
I saw NIN at the tabernacle in Atlanta back in 2005!
I feel like the rawness and truth in this interview, imo makes this, easily, Trent’s best interview.
Thank you for releasing this conversation. I worked at Trent’s studio in New Orleans that Rick talks about going to. It’s great to hear Trent talk about those early years, and what it was like to create The Downward Spiral. Thank you 🙏🏻
New Orleans studio… that s one of those things that acted to me like a big wave… all the “machine” behind, the secrets, the tricks, the rabbit hole ! I understand his position now…since once he said to not sing head like a hole forever. time has arrived.
Tell us about the "pig door"
Nothing Studios? You were extremely lucky! What did you do over there?
We need to hear your interview bruh…the making of downward in NO….I need to hear those stories.
Did you ever work with James Watson?
Trent's music was one of my biggest inspirations growing up. Thank you for this
Wow. The impact both of you have had in my life is difficult to put into words. It feels almost voyeuristic listening to this intimate conversation between two people who have infinite trust and confidence in each other.
who is the guy interviewing trent?
@@amanthangellapally1535 Rick Rubin
I thought you got NIN from the Hierophant tarot card which has 9 nails on it joining the marcocosm to the microcosm
@1:46:41 "What it comes down to is, I really enjoy weirdly working in service to something." -Reznor. I can absolutely relate to this as well. My best work is when my purpose is in this approach.
Same friend, same.
I'm so glad I live at the same time as Trent Reznor and get to follow his music and what he has to say in my lifetime. He is a true artist, a phenomena, a rarity of a soul, talent and principles, for a lack of a better word. Thank you for this interview
I like how Trent calmly takes a big breath and takes his time to calculate an interesting answer. You can tell it’s stream or consciousness but he doesn’t meander.
Incredible interview! Thank you
Karl Rock!! Love your videos, man.
Thank you for putting this together Rick. The downward spiral literally shaped who I was as a young teenager. Song meanings aside, the sound you created Trent was the score of my life. I remember fantasizing about working with Trent in the studio to help create more tracks like "reptile" and "a warm place." Now 40, I have yet to hear someone create the perfect industrial sound that Trent did so well. It was beautiful yet hanted me as I listened to it on my discman as I fell asleep.
Bass Boost! 😂
Was going to put this on while doing errands this morning but ended up just sat in bed listening from start to finish. Such a captivating and insightful interview - huge thank you to both
I enjoyed the ambient rain during this conversation while taking a nap. Thanks for this one Rick & Trent !
Rick, thank you for this fantastic and insightful interview with the legend Trent Reznor. It's so refreshing to hear people talk about the art, value, and appreciation of music. Visiting record shops, listening to an album with full attention and maybe not quite getting it on first listen, but after a few more listens it grows and makes an impact. A much more intimate and invested relationship with music compared to today's constantly moving "content" factory.
Also to note, I love the old school aesthetic and presentation of these podcasts and look forward to more of these.
This podcast is my new favorite. Even the ads are enjoyable.
I just found this channel through a news article on NIN and I truly appreciate the weight in the discussion, everything else out there feels micro-edited to keep the discussion rolling word after word after word (removing the pause between responses and every um or ah). This conversation felt so human and warm to me, I was hanging off every word. Just want to show my appreciation for that.
20 years and still until this day this man, this human being (Trent Reznor) has been my hero just due to the fact he followed through with what he believed in and followed through with what little he started out with and how he's come from something of very little, but was driven by an place and nature to inspire those who are in the dump and to push themselves to be more than what hey are and where. i've been in the lowest of lows but never as much as those of others who have been in such absolute low and depression, life's hard and such unique and absolute artist come from nothing at times and know how to truly connect with those around them.
To Rick and Trent both about Shazam - I totally agree with both yall. It's changed, but I love Shazam for the same reason that Rick mentioned. I found Massive Attack and Sigar Ros because I look up movie scores. Wojciech Kilar's score for Dracula was one of my first long before shazam, and still, I immediately looked up the OST of Only Lovers Left Alive because I loved the music. I Shazam shit all the time. And, yes we are getting older and we're becoming like every generation before (Sting saying there's no good music being made anymore in interview) but I admire, love, the fact that Trent looked into his daughter's music, and Rick talked about Shazaming music...there will forever be music lovers out there, searching for something new and not wanting to be trapped in a generational loop of classic rock, rap or whatnot radio station.
My favorite find of recent is The Slow Readers Club.
I love how endearing Rick sounds to Trent. It sounds like he was the person who Trent was looking for during his career. And when he found Rick, Rick reciprocated those feelings and nurtured his talent in a way that was best for Trent, rather than the label. Loved this interview.
I've seen (and heard) quite a few interviews of Reznor over the years. This is easily one of his best, most insightful and most transparent I've heard in a while. I love how Rubin gathers so much by doing so little. (As we all know, he's also a genius.)
*with Reznor over the years
This answers so many questions I had as a fan in the 90s.
At the 1:01:34 mark, Rick Rubin claims that nobody else was making alternative rock music the way Trent was. What about Ministry's "The Land of Rape and Honey", it came out a year before "Pretty Hate Machine." There was also J.G. Thirlwell and Foetus, Negativland, Skinny Puppy, Meat Beat Manifesto...the list goes on. Trent's contribution is obviously substantial and he's a musical genius, but it's not like he was all alone in '89.
Yeah Trent def pulled from Skinny Puppy when PHM came out. I remember seeing him open for Puppy and never would’ve thought they were going to become what they did; he’ll the backing reel failed at the show.
This. As a huge NIN fan they weren't the first ones, but definitely Trent's work evolved within a decade.
The whole time in listening to this I'm thinking "say skinny puppy mother-fucker!"
You missed the point. He said the way, like prince. Like he was alone and wasnt competing against other artists to stick out.
what's a "backing reel"? @@grimmwerks
Trent Reznor has been such a huge influence and inspiration on me! Always so well-spoken and eloquent. I'm sad to hear he's not interested in creating new NIN anymore, but I'm very happy that he has evolved into an amazing film composer with Atticus Ross. They're a hell of a team! If some of you are interested, I do a lot of covers on my channel including one from Halsey's album produced by the Reznor/Ross duo. I'd be happy to know what you think!
Unplugged through the 90’s so missed NiN until today when I came across Johnny Cash’s cover of ‘Hurt’.
Enjoyed the interview and honesty.
thanks guys!
Feels incredible to finally get a good interview with Trent. Good work guys
Getting over with they key
Totally agree about missing the way we used to exexperience music.
Sitting on the bus on the way home with your latest purchase from the record store, reading the liner notes.
Then putting the thing on and listening to the whole album. One piece of coherent, cohesive art (if it was done well).
Albums were an important art form for me, still are. How the songs hang together, the journey they take you on. Special.
Agreed, but I’m curious where the new way of listening is going to lead.
So glad to catch this episode. TR is one of our generation’s great composers. Such an inspiration and being true to himself always. 👏🏽👍🏽
Trent rocked well to tell the spell of all the old fables
I generally love and appreciate these conversations so much. This one resonates on another level
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This is the best Reznor interview, ever. I was born not far from Trents home town, Grove City PA.
we may have info overload and adhd consumption of media today but on the flip side I just listen to two of my heroes spill their soul for free, what a privilege. ❤
Trent/nin really got me through the most difficult times in my life... but also celebrated to the sounds of nin when I finally came out the other side too...
I grew up in new orleans ,,Right around the time Trent moved to nola I was coming of age,,for that I thank him.
It was so fun running into him in the bars on Decatur st.
Incredible, thank you so much for all you’ve done. You Are Legends.
Just a purely authentic conversation between friends and collaboratirs. I've been enamored with Trent's music since the very beginning and was fortunate to see NIN at the OG Lollapalooza when I was just 19. Thanks for this!
This conversation is quite a treasure. I loved every minute of it!
I like the points he makes about how we used to consume music in the old days.... for me it was the 80's, and you truly did commit to the music you liked and owned. As a kid you saved your allowance or had to get your hands on it exerting some real effort. It was part of your identity and would attract you to like minded friends with similar tastes and interests. I remember putting on records and singing along with your friends or siblings. Everyone would have their favorites and sometimes several people would like the hits or whatever, but I remember being drawn to many of the more obscure songs on B sides. Those were some great experiences as a kid.
Happy Birthday Trent Reznor..... Yesterday actually but I guess it depends where you are when you're reading this.
Thanks for posting this wonderfully interesting interview.
Trent, please give me one more piece of you and Nine Inch Nails before you leave the earth. As a father myself, I understand. It just makes me realize all good things come to an end. I was lucky to see you live, beautiful experience that I will forever treasure. I very much hope for one more project or album. I don't know, I just don't want it to end. ALSO I wish we put a focus on "The Fragile" in this episode!
Warm regards,
Long lifetime fan.
this was really cool, i love deep conversation with people like Trent, he drops his guard a little bit and i feel like we really get to see how Trent talks with his friends. just a humble, down to earth guy that loves music and takes his craft very seriously. i love it
Nice chat, gents. I bought Broken back in the day and I felt like I had something special.
Love the honesty. Thank you Trent.
NiN is my favorite band, too. & my husband is a funeral director/embalmer. This is awesome. Thank you for posting this. My brother, Michael, introduced NiN to me when I was 8 or 9. He’s 4&1/2 years older than I am. I’ve loved them ever since.
These two can't avoid recording bangers, even in dialog.
Pretty Hate Machine is a perfect album. I still have the cassette I bought in 1990. Thanks Trent
Two of the realest there ever were. Would love and appreciate a deeper discussion on how music has changed in pop culture (near the end of this episode). Thanks to you both and love to all
A truly enjoyable experience to listen to this interview. I also appreciate the unabridged format especially in this day and age where there seems to be a fear of long-form content. Bravo 👏🏽
Fear of long-form content? There has never been more long form content than there is right now. 1-3 hour podcasts are the norm now.
I don’t know what tour Rick was referring to, but he’s right. In my opinion, Trent nailed what he was attempting to accomplish on the Pretty Hate Machine tour…. I saw that show at city Gardens in Trenton, New Jersey and if memory serves, they opened with terrible lie, and after hundreds, if not thousands of shows in my life that one and that opener are in the top five.
Trent is as real as it gets thanks for all the amazing music threw the years 🙏🏻
Couldn't name a single "song"
@@ruffhausmalinoisJust because you're clueless doesn't make everyone else. He's sold millions of albums.
@@jamesbarnett527 Imagine all those souls with bad taste in music.....
@@ruffhausmalinoisDoesn't matter if you like the music they're a wildly popular band and your statement is idiotic.
@@ruffhausmalinois why are you watching this interview then? makes no sense
Lovely conversation and valuable insights. Thanks for sharing with us.
Trent sounded so tired at the first half, lol.
I find it funny that a musician as creative as Trent would suffer from a type of "imposter syndrome" like thinking he didnt have a good story to tell etc. Or anything to say. And yet he's prolly one of the most accomplished musicians from this era that commands respect from everyone in the industry.
Fantastic Rick. Thank you for doing these 🙏
That was a fantastic interview, Two absolute titans of music just talking. As a fan of both and a musician myself that was excellent.
That was the best interview with Trent that I've ever heard. I've been a fan of this guys music since 94 and this is the first time that I feel like I got to know a bit of him from an interview. Each time that Trent started to reel it back in from digressing I was saying to myself: "No, keep going".
Two true artists really telling how it is this is so great to hear.
How can a podcast with fucking Rick Rubin not be more popular? So glad i found this. Trent is hands down my favorite musician/composer/musical genius type of all time.
who's rick rubin?
In late 2007 to early 2008, I had been aware of Nine Inch Nails for some time. I had (of course) heard "Closer" on the radio and Cash's cover of "Hurt", the latter was something of a gateway. The first album I bought was "Pretty Hate Machine", in the summer of 2008, at a local record store. It changed my life and alongside Radiohead, probably got me through my high school years. To this day, I think "The Fragile" is his masterpiece.
Thank you so much for this interview - excellent work everyone
Since Trent is not touring for a long time. I would love to see him write a book. The Ministry book was pretty funny:)
Really amazing interview. Trent is one of many artists that got me into making music.
An amazingly extraordinary artist. Trent has been one of my all-time favorite artists. There is no one that has inspired me more with my music. Although completely different style than my songs but he has a uniqueness that cannot be put into words. Just amazing raw emotions to soothe the soul in. Loved this interview.
Thanks guys ..for giving me the info/memories to go forward
keeping this in my history queue…thank You Rick and Trent !!
10 yrs
over and over again 🤫
great insights into both of you. great questions Rick and thanks for sharing Trent.
NIN toured in my city and they played two days in a row. I went to both shows, the second day I was expecting to see the same thing again, and they actually played a different set of songs, it was a different show… so what he says about keeping it authentic and real: true.
Me hearing Reznor saying he didn't have any context for Day la soles makes me feel beter. That is the way I felt about NIN when I first heard them. I later became a huge NIN fan but the first time i heard them I was coming from a thrash metal background. I had no comtext for it and didn't get it at all.
Yes! I still buy CD's. I may rip them to my computer and listen to them on my smartphone, but I want to look at the album "sleeve" and the artwork. People put effort into that, and it adds a dimension to the album beyond the recording. I don't use any music streaming services, but will occasionally look for songs on RUclips. There's still a few record shops around here, but it's getting tougher to get ahold of physical media. I fear downloads and streaming may end up being the only option before long.
Love the sound of Trent in the morning.
So many lessons in this podcast! Fantastic interview.
I can’t unsee the new Kia logo as NIN
Head like a hole
Black KIA Soul
I'd rather drive
Than give you control
Love how honest Trent is here
Born in 84, Trent was my escape, especially in 94. I remember being amazed, confused and immersed by his sound. Fast forward, as a grown man and sound designer these days, it’s so cool how I can hear this conversation and truly relate to it in every way. In short, this interview is an absolute gift, thank you guys 🏆
If everyone could have a Rick Rubin in their life, gently encouraging out their best work and self.
yes, find your mentors!
This is a truly remarkable interview 👏🏼
Crazy that Trent exists in multiple famous haunted and troubled areas by “coincidence”
Everything is a show on this planet. Nothing is real. 😂
He’s a radiant beam.
I remember lying in my room with my headphones on in the 90's listening to The Downward Spiral from beginning to end.
Really interesting conversation! Thank you both 🙏
God damnit yes!! Thank you for saying it, please put the album sleeves back in these digital albums! Why can't people who give a shit be the ones to design and implement these streaming apps?!
A good conversation. Thanks for sharing it.
I’ll never forget when I saw him with bauhaus at the Idaho center 15 years ago or so not knowing any of the openers, to say the least it was an amazing performance and even to this day I still say it was way ahead of it’s time with the 100 plus foot led walls hanging from the rafters looking like chain link and then when they came on being blown away. Not to mention influential on the electronic aspect fucking gold my man this is a great humanization in this interview I’ve felt much the same way being melancholic about my beginnings thank you 🙏
This interview fills in alot of stuff I allways needed answers to .
Whoop Whoop yes ! Broken ! When that MF dropped the neighborhood went crazy . The whole story about hurt is one of those stories like yeah one night he seen this dude kill somebody , then a couple nights later he’s on stage singin a song and there he was , the killer , out in the crowd - that song hurt , it meant so much to me , people I’m close to , plus I wasn’t into cash , plus I wasn’t into country , it was like wtf is going on here . But it worked and it was perfect and it was perfect . How do you do something two completely different ways and in the end both are perfect ? Amazing . I c
Ant sing along with that song , I choke up . Thanks guys ! Love you
I want to watch this. George Romero gave me a ?phobia about tvs inside tvs. From the emergency broadcasting message in the movie. I'm glad this is okay to just listen to.
Thanks for this conversation!
How does a podcast with arguably the greatest music producer in history only draw 13k subs, damn the RUclips competition must be getting crazy for this to be the case