Who Would Be the King of Greece Today?
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- Опубликовано: 14 янв 2023
- Today I will answer the question who would be the king of Greece today if Greece did not abolish monarchy or would want to restore the monarchy.
King Constantine II died in 2023 making his son, Pavlos II king of Greece.
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Both plebiscites were not done fairly, one because it took place during the junta and the second because they banned the rallying of pro monarchists
so a new one should be done
@@andypham1636I don’t think there’d be a point, the love for the monarchy has very much died down since those previous events and I doubt that many people would vote for it. That being said I cant speak for the Greek people so, you never know.
@@kaiser_Haux Its due to the republican dictatorship that governs the country and to the lies that they spread for the monarchy in order to promote themselves as the legitimate government of the country and to continue to enrich themselves while Greece is in a state of anguish , we need a king , we need traditionalism and the rebirth of our nation
De hecho el primero fue declarado nulo
Fueron los griegos estúpidos que al contrario de lo que hicieron en otras ocasiones,elijeron la república y ahí los resultados están
@@kaiser_Hauxsadly its the same in countries like Romania, Serbia, Georgia, etc… its like no one cares about monarchy anymore.
nice
the first king otto of bavaria was the only true and rightfull king of the greek (and not of greece) because he was the descendend of 3 byzantine imperial dynastic families the phokas, the laskari and the komnenos.
the phokas family renamed themselves to kallergi when they settled in crete and
the greek flag which is used till today was the coat of arms of the kallergi family additionally with the motto "en touto nika".
thats the flag king otto used as heir to the byzantine heritage.
from the beginning of the war of independence the goal was to liberate the regions where the greek lived under ocupation of the ottoman and restore the roman empire with constantinople as capital but the last attempt to acomplish that ended in 1923 with the lost war against the turks and the removal of the greek populations from asia minor.
Η ΑΝΝΑ ΜΑΡΙΑ ΛΕΓΕΤΑΙ ΟΤΙ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΑΠΟΓΟΝΟΣ ΤΩΝ ΚΟΜΝΗΝΩΝ ΕΠΙΣΗΣ ΚΑΙ Η ΠΡΩΤΗ ΤΗΣ ΔΥΝΑΣΤΕΙΑΣ ΤΩΝ ΧΡΙΣΤΙΑΝΩΝ ΒΑΣΙΛΙΣΣΑ ΟΛΓΑ ΗΟΠΟΙΑ ΒΑΠΤΙΣΕ ΤΗΝ ΑΔΕΛΦΗ ΤΗΣ ΓΙΑΓΙΑΣ ΜΟΥ ΤΗΝ ΌΛΓΑ ΕΧΕΙ ΒΥΖΑΝΤΙΝΗ ΚΑΤΑΓΩΓΗ🇬🇷💙💙💙🇬🇷🇬🇷
I would of just gotten descendents of Byzantine emporors. Both Kantakouzenos or Cantacuzene and Palaiologos families still exist today.
Greece was just a small part of the Roman and the East Roman Empire, and the kingdom is a lower title than Emperor.
But then, the claim to the Byzantine throne was passed to the Spanish Crown through the will of the last Emperor who did not consider himself Greek, but Roman.
@@themonarchistchannel Well, geographically small yes but culturally/politically it was the center of it.
But it is a moot point anyway, while the Cantacuzuni family is still around they only had one emperor for a single reign, and he was a co-emperor at that. The Palaiologos family is of course well known but all sources I can find say that the family basically dies out/fades from historical records sometime after the early 1690's. Some girl named Godscall is the last Palaiologos known to have lived. Her life is entirely unknown.
It is alleged that the Greeks did send a delegation during their revolution to find surviving members of the Palaiologos, but found none. So if there were survivors of the family out there, it is possible they would've been chosen over Wittelsbach or Glucksburg. But that is not the timeline we live in.
Make a video about Brazilian monarchists, unfortunately, recently there's a lot of reactionaries on the movement in Brazil :(
(Sorry for the bad English).
It’s on the list
Desafortunadamente porque? AFORTUNADAMENTE,porque la República de Brasil es un DESASTRE
Ο ΚΩΝΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΟΣ ΤΕΩΣ ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ ΕΠΡΕΠΕ ΝΑ ΕΠΙΣΤΡΕΨΕΙ ΤΟ 1974 ΟΠΩΣ ΕΠΕΣΤΡΕΨΑΝ ΟΙ ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΟΙ ΣΤΗΝ ΠΑΤΡΙΔΑ ΤΟΥ ΤΗΝ ΕΛΛΑΔΑ🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
Where are our Byzantine Kings?
What are the succession rules ot the Hellenic throne?? Can women ascend to the throne???? Please answer :)
Great question indeed.
Yes, women can ascend to the Greek throne, in fact Princess Alexia was heiress presumptive until the birth of her brother Pavlos.
Greek order of succession changed from Salic law to male-preference primogeniture. This is why King Alexander was not succeeded by his daughter Alexandra, but throne went back to his father.
Technically yes but Actually no we don’t accept women to take our crown mostly because in Greece a we don’t give much attention to laws but still Greece can’t have a queen do to being a patriotical society
I am not sure of this, but wasn't there some debate at the time on whether King Alexander's marriage to Aspasia Manos was a dynastically legal marriage? And a few years in which Alexandra was called Her Highness instead of Her Royal Hughness. The issue was not really cleared up until Princess Alexandra was a candidate to.marry the young King of Yugoslavia. His regent refused to agree to the match unless the Greek Royals recognized her dynastic status. The then exiled King George II then recognized that her parent's marriage had been a dynastic one . But as part of the marriage agreement, Princess Alexandra had to renounce for herself and her descendents any claim of the Greek throne.
@@themonarchistchannel no because Alexandra was posthumous child
@@jameshamilton8245 You are right. King Alexander and Aspasia Manos married in secret. A king could not marry a common woman without title. Nowadays it's usual. They never lived like a royal couple in the palace. Aspasia lived with her mother for years outside Greece. The marriage was kept secret by the government and the press for some years. I believe that even if they had a son instead of daughter, king Constantine (Alexander's father) would be in the throne again. King Constantine never recognised his son's reign. He put on Alexander's tomb the inscription "Βασιλόπαις", that means "King's child", although Alexander actively reigned. The ex Greek royal family lost the chance to connect with Greek people. As we know none of the Greek royals has Greek ancestry. Alexander and Aspasia would put the Greek genes in the family.
Quite simply Greece would have been one those success stories by now if the then military junta politicians didnt manipulate their own country men Greece would have been a kingdom for about the same time as Belgium if those men had focused on helping their country instead of seizing power the people never requested. Let's see now should we pave roads and bridges, help schools and hospitals or should we abolish the king without a real vote. In our modern world kings do more for their respective countries than politicians do in republics. Its sad commentary on what the former Kingdom of Greece could have been.
Y dejemolos que se hagan ilusiones los griegos que las cosas van a cambiar
AY AY AY con esa REPUBLICA
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No king but one of the true heirs of Constantine XI, the last Emperor of Byzantium. Greeks did not want any kind of Western King; those were forced upon them.
They did want and did vote several times on that.
For sake of argument here, Constantine XI gave his claim to the Byzantine throne to the Spanish crown. So Felipe VI of Spain?
@@themonarchistchannel I would argue that perhaps a locally chosen hero in the struggle against the Ottomans would have been a better choice than any of the forced ones on them.
It did not go well at all for the foreigners being monarchs of Greece.
Not actually, in most cases we didn't vote for them. Most of the referendums on the question of the monarchy especially those of 1920 and of 1935 were rigged . The vote in favor of Monarchy was 97 to 99 Results which we let's say.. were obviously frauded. The only legitimate referendum in witch Monarchy won was that of 1946 in which it took 68%. Thought we have to state that even in this one the political climate was tense. It was immediately after the liberation from the Axis in WW2 and in the beginning of the Greek Civil War. To put it mildly if you were not with the king you were a communist. So the republican votes frightened were split. The issue was resolved once a d for all in 1974 in a fair vote as the political parties did not express an opinion on the issue. So we returned to our original form of government.
The only monarchs we have a more positive image are those of ancient times and of the Byzantine era. Because those were not foreign institutions like the modern ones. Constantine XI wasn't the one who sold the title. That's why he died as the last emperor in the battlefield.
I hope I helped. Wish you well.
@@annai6393 This would be the best option, yes. It would be dope if we could pick Kapodistrias as a king, as he was already a noble from Corfu. However, the greeks would never agree on who should be king and fight each other.
@@themonarchistchannel you are speaking about andrea palaiologos, he gave his titles to spanish crown