Who Would Be the Monarchs of Germany Today?

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @UsefulCharts
    @UsefulCharts  Год назад +129

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    • @eerytunic3839
      @eerytunic3839 Год назад +5

      out of 8 languages 2 are estonian and finnish that is crazy

    • @leefitzpeter4287
      @leefitzpeter4287 Год назад +2

      As speakly use a USA flag to represent English it can't be any good. Instead of leaning correct English you will end up with a horrible American accent.

    • @cool_guy87
      @cool_guy87 Год назад +3

      You should do a video on the family trees of the microstates of Europe (Liechtenstein, Monaco and Andorra) and Luxembourg

    • @Hadar1991
      @Hadar1991 Год назад +2

      12:39 In terms of the Polish-Lithuanian claim, there was never an institution of morganatic marriage in Poland and in Commonwealth, so if even some prince would marry a peasant it would not disqualify his children from the inheritance as long it was a valid marriage (of course marrying a peasant would not be seen fondly by the nobility, e.g. nobility wasn't happy that Jogaila married Elizabeth Granowska, because she was just nobility without any connections to royalty, had already two husbands and five children before, and wasn't very young, while Jogaila was still heirless, but if they had children they would not be banned from succession). So I don't think that prince Alexander have any claim to Polish-Lithunian throne, while Polish monarchist already ask prince Daniel if he would fancy to be theirs official pretender (he refused).

    • @revinhatol
      @revinhatol Год назад +2

      7:51
      (Name in Swazi: Eswatini)

  • @olgahein4384
    @olgahein4384 Год назад +1069

    My history teacher in school (in Germany) used to joke around like, the reason why every single european monarchy has so much german royal blood is, because we used to have so damn many royals here, we didn't know what to do with them, so in the end we did what we are still good at today: export.

    • @Carbonat
      @Carbonat 11 месяцев назад +55

      @@Iason29 He wrote "used to joke", Klugscheißer

    • @LordDirus007
      @LordDirus007 11 месяцев назад +29

      Yeah, it's shocking how many micro Kingdoms existed in Germany. It really kept the German people back. Once they United. They became a serious Player.

    • @wfcoaker1398
      @wfcoaker1398 10 месяцев назад +17

      Don't forget Victoria and her offspring. A German, married to a German, and their children married into most of Europe's royal families.

    • @anthonybranco
      @anthonybranco 9 месяцев назад +7

      Lots of British royals have a significant amount of Germanic ancestry through Germany and Austria but other parts as well.

    • @anthonybranco
      @anthonybranco 9 месяцев назад +8

      There is not much separating the Germans, Brits and French. Lots of common ancestors among their royals.

  • @QemeH
    @QemeH Год назад +2227

    The _really_ strange thing about Otto von Habsburg is that he actually got a state funeral in Vienna, attended by the chancellor and president of Austria at the time and many, many citizens. He arguably had better attendance than he would've had as an actual emperor of austria. There were a few voices who critizised the police escort and other tax payer expenses, but the overwhelming majority of the by then staunchly republican and democratic austria celebrated the life of the last crown prince of the monarchy they rebelled to overthrow. And in a way, austria has this two-faced relationship with its own history to this day - companies still proudly display having been named "purveyor to the court", titles are still spoken with a tone of defferance, big archievments of monarchs that hold up (like, for example, the inception of mandatory school years) are still celebrated - but monarchistic support meassures in the low promille range... it's fascinating to watch as a non-austrian in austria (especially vienna)

    • @lelandunruh7896
      @lelandunruh7896 Год назад +136

      I'm American but always admired von Habsburg for being a bit of what we call a troll now and thumbing his nose at the conventional wisdom. I've joined him in smoking one cigarette per year--on World No Tobacco Day. And I'll always find it funny that he was annoyed at how Willy Brandt attended the European Parliament infrequently so he posted a "for rent" sign on Brandt's spot, which apparently was there for weeks. I can see why Austrians like him!

    • @michaelgrabner8977
      @michaelgrabner8977 Год назад +82

      Well in Austria his name is/was "Otto Habsburg" without "von"...the aristocratic "von" got abolished in Austria after WW1 for all Aristocrats which was part for abolishing aristocracy..only Germany kept the "von".

    • @Icetea-2000
      @Icetea-2000 Год назад +79

      They didn’t rebel against the emperor, they wanted to stop the war no matter what. But there was still a huge amount of respect for the emperor

    • @MrSinclairn
      @MrSinclairn Год назад +20

      If the Habsburgs did make a return,wouldn't it be just as rulers of a simple ARCHDUCHY rather than an (imperial widespread) EMPIRE ? 🙄

    • @michaelgrabner8977
      @michaelgrabner8977 Год назад +24

      @@MrSinclairn Make a return from what?
      Can you explain what you actually mean?
      All their crownlands became Republics after WW1.
      And do you know what a "crownland" is?
      Austria was just one of several Habsburg crownlands
      And what is a - simple - Archduchy? An Archduchy is not "simple" ..the Archduchy is the highest ranked princedom in an Empire...
      The Habsburgian was Archdukes in Austria but he was King of Bohemia + King of Hungary as well...and had additionally all kinds of other ruler titels for the other regions in that Habsburg Empire and those were all legitimized titels by bloodline and not by conquer.The Habsburgs didn´t gain their titels by waging wars but by marriage and as consequence by inheriting.
      So your comment doesn´t make sense.

  • @robertkiehn7459
    @robertkiehn7459 7 месяцев назад +17

    The german former monarchs intermarrying "just in case" is the funniest and most ominous part of this whole video

  • @fabianseitz2894
    @fabianseitz2894 Год назад +985

    One more technicality: Germany allows to keep titles of nobilities as surnames, but Austria does not. So Otto von Habsburg's civil name was simply "Otto Habsburg", while pretty much all the German members of former monarchies have surnames containing "Duke/Duchess" or "Prince/Princess". Since civil law does not care about morganatic marriages and that there can only be one duke, the number of persons with such fancy surnames is probably larger today than the number of real dukes and princes would have been if the monarchies still existed.

    • @KingJohnMichael
      @KingJohnMichael Год назад +22

      Wrong as a lot of nobles sold there titles including von
      Happend to my family after ww1
      So no
      There aren't more today than there would have ever been
      In fact the number is pretty much the same

    • @Emphyrio7
      @Emphyrio7 Год назад +148

      @@KingJohnMichael You seem to have misunderstood the post.
      Titles of nobility DO NOT EXIST under German law.
      So all you sold was a useless piece of paper.
      What happend was that former nobles were allowed to make their former titles part of their surname.
      So Franz Herzog von Bayern isn't _the_ Herzog von Bayern, his NAME is Herzog von Bayern.

    • @VoxPopuli60
      @VoxPopuli60 Год назад +57

      It is a bit more complicated: It is true that in Germany, unlike in Austria, the nobility predicates were not abolished in 1918, but were regarded as mere name components without legal relevance. However, in addition to Austrian citizenship, the last Crown Prince of Austria-Hungary also held German citizenship and, at the end of his life, even Hungarian citizenship again. That is why he was officially called "Dr Otto von Habsburg" in his German passport, but "Dr Otto Habsburg-Lothringen" in his Austrian one. His mandate in the European Parliament was based on his status as a German citizen. He belonged to the conservative Christian Social Union (CSU), the Bavarian branch of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU).

    • @sebe2255
      @sebe2255 Год назад +23

      It makes their larp more funny, they are literally just playing pretend

    • @the2ndcoming135
      @the2ndcoming135 Год назад +1

      🤣

  • @Breitiger
    @Breitiger Год назад +429

    Fun Fact: Ferdinand Habsburg also works as a presenter for F1 races on the Austrian State TV where I saw him for the first time and was really surprised about the name.

    • @magentacyan6086
      @magentacyan6086 Год назад +60

      Yes, but not just that. He is also a professional racer, who won Le Mans and other big races.

    • @pdruiz2005
      @pdruiz2005 Год назад +33

      I could just imagine that conversation. You: "Wait, is that our former Hapsburg emperor presenting the F1 races?" Other person: "I think so? His last name is Hapsburg. How many Hapsburgs are there around?" Then you went to check Google. Pikachu surprised faces all around! LOL.

    • @filippovismara7889
      @filippovismara7889 Год назад +1

      Nope

    • @filippovismara7889
      @filippovismara7889 Год назад +1

      En Croatia no en Austria

    • @chheinrich8486
      @chheinrich8486 Год назад +4

      I czrrent read a series of scify books about an american snall town from 2000 being transporter tjrough time to 1632 germany, and lets just say they change the World they landed into, and the austrian emporer of the time ends up liking sports cars😅😅

  • @EmperorNapoleon1815
    @EmperorNapoleon1815 Год назад +89

    Otto really had a record-breaking reign snatched from him. Good for him for filling his life with plenty of other successes!

  • @VoxPopuli60
    @VoxPopuli60 Год назад +731

    The map shown from min. 3:30 onwards is unfortunately wrong. The southern German states of Bavaria, Württemberg and Baden as well as the southern part of the Grand Duchy of Hesse were not part of the North German Confederation. They joined it only in 1871, during the Franco-Prussian War. This gave birth to the German Empire. Baden which lies to the west of Württemberg, is missing from the map, as is Alsace-Lorraine, which was annexed in 1871 and only reverted to France in 1918. The extent of Prussia for the period after the German War is also incorrectly depicted, as the country annexed not only Hanover in 1866, but also other parts of Germany, e.g. Schleswig-Holstein, the Electorate of Hesse, the Duchy of Nassau and the Free City of Frankfurt.

    • @jaspboynl8094
      @jaspboynl8094 Год назад +31

      I noticed that too

    • @klammersiebter1697
      @klammersiebter1697 Год назад +51

      Vox Populi is right! I love this channel, but this map is so disturbingly wrong. I guess @EmperorTigerstar will add it to his collection of horrible maps!

    • @Marconius6
      @Marconius6 Год назад +9

      Was about to comment this, you beat me to it.

    • @kolomaznik333
      @kolomaznik333 Год назад +16

      @@untruelie2640 Like poor Baden. Grand duke Friedrich personaly proclaiming the emperor Wiliam I, but Baden is left out of Germany. Also Prussia seem to not want all the territories they annexed in 1866 IRL.
      Author(s) of this channel repeatedly makes easily avoidable mistakes. If I would want to be mean I could call it like "some north murican superability to mess stuff about royalty and nobility".
      Also he sometimes says not that important details (i am ok with that), but imho more important/interesting details are left out.
      Like his obsession with queen Elisabeth II, thanks to that he clearly messed/mixed up the succesion systems so it would end with her like he wanted.

    • @UsefulCharts
      @UsefulCharts  Год назад +275

      My apologies about the map. My intention was to show the North German Confederation at its greatest extent (which, as pointed out, was right before it became the German Empire). But, yeah, I should have been more clear about how the borders evolved. As for the other details - I guess it just goes to show that I'm much better at making charts than maps. I'm definitely no Emperor Tigerstar!

  • @lalez88
    @lalez88 Год назад +146

    When the head of the house of Baden died (shortly after Queen Elizabeth) the funeral guests were unexpectedly international. Although the King Charles got an invitation none of the British Royal Family actually attended (understandably). They sent I think someone from Hessen in their stead. It's always fascinating to see how former german royals and all European aristocracies are connected to each other. I live in a region where even a distant relative of the Swedish royals owns land and the family sometimes even visits.
    Thank you for this dive into german history

  • @milanney8969
    @milanney8969 Год назад +91

    A small note on German 'noble titles'. It is true that the German state does not recognise noble titles, and their bearers are all commoners. However, the 'titles' are treated as part of the official surname.

  • @LearnRunes
    @LearnRunes Год назад +532

    Jacobites consider the man who calls himself the Duke of Bavaria to be the King of Britain.

    • @deutschermichel5807
      @deutschermichel5807 Год назад +49

      He doesn't call himself that. This is his legal name

    • @jesusthroughmary
      @jesusthroughmary Год назад +1

      That claim is strangely enough set to pass into the Princely house of Liechtenstein, so that the Jacobite claimant will eventually be an actual reigning monarch.

    • @SkyTheHusky
      @SkyTheHusky Год назад +48

      @@deutschermichel5807(ACTUALLY, I'M WRONG) It's not a legal name, as mentioned in the video there is no legal nobility

    • @lightyagami3492
      @lightyagami3492 Год назад +23

      ​@@deutschermichel5807Its not his legal name. There is no nobility in Germany anymore though he would have been the Duke had the nobility not been abolished.

    • @emilybarclay8831
      @emilybarclay8831 Год назад +29

      @@deutschermichel5807 Bavaria is no longer an independent entity, one cannot be the ruling Duke of Bavaria. The last ruler of Bavaria was Ludwig III who died in 1921. Franz’s title is a courtesy title, holding no legal authority or legitimacy. His legal name is Franz Bonaventura Adalbert Maria Herzog von Bayern.

  • @LucasBenderChannel
    @LucasBenderChannel Год назад +37

    Unfortunately the maps in the beginning are a bit wrong. The North German confederation did not contain the Southern states, and for the empire, you were missing a chunk of land in the South West.

    • @the2ndcoming135
      @the2ndcoming135 Год назад +3

      Yeah, I know. I couldn’t have landed in a more perfect spot😆

  • @ThatOneCatto
    @ThatOneCatto Год назад +37

    _Slight_ correction: Hannover, Saxony, Bavaria and Wurttemberg were not established in 1814. On that year, they were elevated to the rank of kingdom. Before the dissolution of the Holy Roman Empire, no country* was allowed to be called "kingdom of x" because it was seen as an attack on the rank of the emperor, which had the title "king of Germany"**.
    *Prussia got an exemption for siding with the emperor in the war of the Spanish succession
    **And king of Italy, and all other titles that he owned.

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 Год назад +8

      There was also the Kingdom of Bohemia though not technically German it was within the HRE and many of its kings were also Emperors

    • @ShadrolGER
      @ShadrolGER Год назад +4

      Firstly. Prussia started out only as "Kings *in* Prussia" to clarify that the Kingdom of Prussia was only the lands not part of the Empire. The lands within the Empire only became part of the Kingdom of Prussia legally when the empire was dissolved.
      Second. The empire was dissolved in 1806 and it was in this year that all the princes were elevated. Thus the electorates of Saxony, Bavaria, Hannover and Württemberg (only been an electorate since 1803) were elevated to Kingdoms.

    • @ThatOneCatto
      @ThatOneCatto Год назад +1

      @@ShadrolGER Correct, they were reinstated in 1814 following the defeat of napoleon. The kingdom of/in Prussia bit doesn't matter, it had nothing to do with the empire. It was the commonwealth that demanded this, because they had a province called ducal Prussia. However, you are correct in the matter that Prussia was not considered a kingdom within the empire.

    • @ShadrolGER
      @ShadrolGER Год назад +1

      @@andypham1636 Bavaria was at no point a grand duchy.

    • @ShadrolGER
      @ShadrolGER Год назад +2

      @@ThatOneCatto you are correct, the "in" part was because of the commonwealth. I got that mixed up.
      Point still stands that only with the empire dissolved the Hohenzollern lands within the empire could become part of Prussia de jure.

  • @Edmonton-of2ec
    @Edmonton-of2ec Год назад +25

    11:18 For anyone wondering, Georg’s former fiancé was Duchess Maria Amalia of Württemberg. She died unmarried 2 days before her 26 birthday in 1923

    • @garlickebagg
      @garlickebagg 2 месяца назад +1

      Yes, i was, Danke ❤️👍.

  • @shinyagumon7015
    @shinyagumon7015 Год назад +265

    I love how the hypothetical Kingdom of Hannover would've had 4 King Ernst August in a row.
    And people make fun of how many Georges the Brits had!

    • @sodadrinker89
      @sodadrinker89 Год назад +21

      I mean, they are closely related.

    • @Treviisolion
      @Treviisolion Год назад +38

      European monarchies love naming their children after notable ancestors which means every line has like half a dozen names they cycle through.

    • @katherinegilks3880
      @katherinegilks3880 Год назад +1

      Would make things really easy for the people, though. No need to change anything.

    • @karlvnshwp6407
      @karlvnshwp6407 Год назад +20

      They brought them over! All Georges were either Hannovers (George I-IV) or direct descendants from them

    • @SampoPaalanen
      @SampoPaalanen Год назад +18

      To be fair there's still more kings named Louis in France then kings named George in the UK. The last official and undisputed King Louis of France having been King Louis XVI (aka the 16th king named "Louis"), There has been only 7 King Georges in the UK.

  • @MrNathanael94
    @MrNathanael94 Год назад +165

    The titles of the German nobility are not actually 'entirely unofficial' today - when the Monarchy was abolished in 1918, these were turned into their actual last names/surnames. So i.e. Georg Friedrich's actual name on his passport is 'Georg Friedrich Ferdinand Prinz von Preußen' - 'Prince of Prussia' being his surname! So he is actually a Prince - it's part of his name! (and his children etc. as well are all Princes/ses because of this, the name is adjusted to each person's gender). Though of course this legally doesn't mean anything, it's just an unusual name.
    This is different to Austria where titles were completely abolished, so the Habsburg family is actually legally just, for example, 'Karl Habsburg-Lothringen' on their passports (plus a few more given/first names that I've left out here)

    • @Edmonton-of2ec
      @Edmonton-of2ec Год назад +2

      ⁠@@hanz3967 No, his legal last name is Prinz von Preussen. As it is for all male members of his family

    • @Llortnerof
      @Llortnerof Год назад +11

      Yes and no. They're unofficial as titles. They're official as names. Names and titles are fairly different things.
      So no, Georg Friedrich Ferdinand Prinz von Preußen is *not* a Prince. He's just _named_ Prinz.
      The titles were still completely abolished, the former nobles just got to keep the, now worthless, words.

    • @KingJohnMichael
      @KingJohnMichael Год назад +5

      ​@@Edmonton-of2ecthat's literally waht he said

    • @KingJohnMichael
      @KingJohnMichael Год назад +2

      ​@@Llortnerofthat's literally what he said

    • @Llortnerof
      @Llortnerof Год назад +1

      @@KingJohnMichael No. He said Georg Friedrich is a prince, which is wrong.

  • @jamesdulany2176
    @jamesdulany2176 Год назад +26

    This type of video is how I originally found your channel, and I always appreciate these. Thanks for another video on this subject.

  • @thomasdixon4373
    @thomasdixon4373 Год назад +248

    With the German monarchs you could of ended up with a massive video due to all the Grand Duchies, Duchies, Principalities, Counties etc that still have a recognisable pretender

    • @theultimatefreak666
      @theultimatefreak666 Год назад +12

      You can't really make that correctly though. I know one such pretender to countdom personally and he really doesn't want it to be known. The castle his family used only says that the house supports keeping it repaired, not that he is the head of the house.
      Also the line will probably die with him as he doesn't have siblings, lost track of other branches and I doubt he'll marry at all, much less any sort of nobility

    • @thomasdixon4373
      @thomasdixon4373 Год назад +4

      @@theultimatefreak666 That's interesting, ik that quite a few of the Grand Duchies, Duchies and Principalities still have pretenders; I assumed there would be some Counts as well my mistake

    • @theultimatefreak666
      @theultimatefreak666 Год назад +5

      @@thomasdixon4373 huh? I just said I know a pretender to a county.
      It's not that they aren't there, they are just numerous enough to fly under the radar.
      Nearly every castle had it's own ruler back during HRE times, let's just say half of them still have their own pretender, many of which deposed by napoleon that's roughly 12k people in the modern German borders alone.
      My damn godmother has a noble title (it's just having "von" in their name, but you aren't allowed to add it to your name if it doesn't come from your ancestors and you can reject it a bit differently from having your name changed in other ways) but her family doesn't even remember where it comes from. So being noble really doesn't get looked twice at

    • @thomasdixon4373
      @thomasdixon4373 Год назад

      @@theultimatefreak666 I apologise, I misunderstood your original comment

    • @lukasrentz3238
      @lukasrentz3238 Год назад +3

      @@theultimatefreak666 Though that County ceased to exist during Napoleonic Times? He could still have made a Video for the Monarchies that existed until 1918.

  • @KarlieMildraed
    @KarlieMildraed Год назад +32

    Think of the typical school map/province/state assignments given out. So much work to remember what's where. Great info, Matt.

  • @MrWasjig
    @MrWasjig Год назад +54

    I find the German monarchies, noble houses and such to be incredibly fascinating owing to there not really being any all encompassing, overarching German nation for so much of history for it all to become enveloped into (unlike Great Britain for example, where individual kingdoms on the island were annexed/defunct centuries ago). Any more content exploring this part of European history would be eagerly anticipated!

    • @OogaBooga-tq7jc
      @OogaBooga-tq7jc Год назад +1

      *Holy Roman Empire of German Nation and the Kingdom of Germany check out* following your comment.

    • @deyzacvincent3091
      @deyzacvincent3091 Год назад +1

      @@OogaBooga-tq7jc non l'Allemagne est née en 1871

  • @MegaAlterSack
    @MegaAlterSack Год назад +420

    In Germany, former titles are considered part of the surname, so a member of a former noble house would be named "Alfred Prince Coockoo", not "Prince Albert Coockoo"

    • @CallieMasters5000
      @CallieMasters5000 Год назад +70

      I knew a German girl with an American passport and her last name was listed as "Prinzessin von Sachsen" (in German). I think she was born in Florida.

    • @htavli
      @htavli Год назад +15

      @@CallieMasters5000 that's cool af

    • @HelloOnepiece
      @HelloOnepiece Год назад +16

      @@CallieMasters5000 idk about germans, but i think that has a chance of just some family faking royal status

    • @PinHeadSupliciumwtf
      @PinHeadSupliciumwtf Год назад +17

      @@HelloOnepiece Some "sold" their title via paid adoption.

    • @dorderre
      @dorderre Год назад +23

      @@PinHeadSupliciumwtf Yes, the House of Anhalt comes to mind. The sister of the last Duke of Anhalt adopted an adult commoner (who afterwards called himself Frederic Prinz von Anhalt, husband of the late Zsa Zsa Gabor), who in turn also adopted several adult men, one of whom a brothel owner.
      But from what I understand, the rest of the House of Anhalt doesn't consider those as part of the noble house.

  • @chiron14pl
    @chiron14pl Год назад +106

    One of the advantages of having so many sovereign states is that their monarchies, whether king, prince, grand duke, or duke, were considered royal for the purposes of marriage, because they were sovereign states in a confederation, later empire. Other royal houses made matches with German princesses, so they're all interrelated

    • @Wolfeson28
      @Wolfeson28 Год назад +20

      Plus, since they were mostly very small states, they tended to make good marriage prospects for the royal families of larger states. It avoided the issues of alliances or balance of power that would tend to result from trying to intermarry with royal families from other large states, and also opened up the prospect of potentially absorbing the smaller state at some point in the future if dynastic luck went a certain way.

    • @Icetea-2000
      @Icetea-2000 Год назад +3

      You make it sound like it was intentional. The fractured nature of the HRE and thus the german states just came to be organically

    • @the2ndcoming135
      @the2ndcoming135 Год назад +1

      Hey, the numbers work for me either way✡️

    • @nataliepopp178
      @nataliepopp178 Год назад +2

      Also lucky for other kingdoms there were katholic kingdoms/duchys, like bavaria and austria, for catholic marriages and protestant kingdoms, who had been eligible partners for marriages for english souverreigns and princes

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Год назад

      look up the saxon line that lead to that center of the empire bordergore. And try to understand which line rules of which part of the area at what time.

  • @ShadrolGER
    @ShadrolGER Год назад +33

    Two major corrections on the map. The south german states (Bavaria, Württemberg, Baden and the southern part of Hessen) were not part of the North German Confederation in 1866.
    They only joined in late 1870 and thus the empire was formed.
    Also the aforementioned Großherzogtum Baden was completely forgotten in the map aswell as the annexation of Elsass-Lothringen.

  • @IndeeshMukhopadhyay
    @IndeeshMukhopadhyay Год назад +23

    Hanover really just went “yep, no name is gonna be better than Ernst August”

  • @robins.1919
    @robins.1919 Год назад +18

    Little Correction on the Bavarian Kings: King Otto was king until his death in 1916. But because of his mental illness, Ludwig III. was declared King in 1913, so that Bavaria had two kings during this time.
    Note: Otto never reigned himself, so after 1913 it was only a title, while Ludwig was the reigning king.

  • @emanuelfigueroa5657
    @emanuelfigueroa5657 24 дня назад +8

    Don't forget there is still a ruling German monarchy ... Liechtenstein.

  • @davidringmann3395
    @davidringmann3395 Год назад +62

    I would like to note that the heir to the House of Hanover has two children which like himself are in the british line of succession. Should he for some reason or other become King of the UK and of Hanover the crowns would split yet again as his daughter (firstborn) would become Queen of the UK and his son (secondborn) King of Hanover. Plus the current head of the House of Hanover has a daughter who is in line to the Throne of Monaco being the youngest child of his second wife a monegasque Princess.

    • @MrSinclairn
      @MrSinclairn Год назад +15

      The present Hanoverian heir,also has a valid claim to the peerage title of 'Duke of Cumberland and Teviotdale',which his father,grandfather and great-grandfather were stripped of,under the 'Titles Deprivation Act 1917' ,due to his grandfather's 1st World War service in the German military.

    • @andypham1636
      @andypham1636 Год назад +9

      princess Alexandra of Hanover has been catholic since 2018 so any remote chance of her becoming queen is now gone

    • @ukmary1968
      @ukmary1968 11 часов назад

      @@andypham1636The Monaco Royal family are Catholic.

    • @ukmary1968
      @ukmary1968 11 часов назад +2

      @@MrSinclairnAs a side note, Augustus had to get permission from QEII to marry Princess Caroline. He had a higher rank and she got the HRH after marriage to him.

    • @andypham1636
      @andypham1636 10 часов назад +1

      @@ukmary1968 yeah

  • @gardist
    @gardist Год назад +55

    0:15
    The word "Kaiser" is simply the german translation of emperor.
    Especially saying that the german emperor was ''called Kaiser'' while not using the german title names for the other monarchs is somewhat misleading.
    Either call both emperors Kaiser or neither

    • @SPHTF
      @SPHTF Год назад +5

      Similarly do either use the English or the German place names, but not a mixture please. The last one mentioned is German Hannover, which is also not pronounced like the English Hanover.

    • @Marconius6
      @Marconius6 Год назад +10

      While this may be true in the native German, in English only the German ruler is referred to as Kaiser. I guess it's just tradition?

    • @Mimi.1001
      @Mimi.1001 Год назад +17

      "Kaiser" is specifically derived from "Caesar" as is the Russian/Slavic "Tsar" for example, so you could say there is an implied connection to Roman emperors (to be fair most European houses claimed the title in some form). The term emperor (even though too derived from the latin "imperator") seems to be a more broad title, also encompassing the "King of Kings" in Persia or the monarchs of China for example.
      But it's true, in German "Kaiser" is used for all kinds of emperors, be it Romans, the current Japanese monarch, the Austrian or Brasilian ones. Frankly, it's a bit silly to refer to the German Empire as the/a "Kaiserreich" with a "Kaiser", but not to refer to the Austro-Hungarian Empire and its monarch similarly.

    • @kaloarepo288
      @kaloarepo288 Год назад +3

      @@Mimi.1001 Yes at the outbreak of World War One there were actually 2 Kaisers -the German one and the Austro-Hungarian one but most people only think of the Kaiser (Wilhelm II) of Germany.

    • @reggiebosanquet1525
      @reggiebosanquet1525 Год назад +4

      @@Mimi.1001 In Latin as spoken originally the letter C was always a hard C like K, and not soft like S. So Caesar would have been pronounced very similar to Kaiser today. It's quite funny really as the name Caesar was simply a nickname for one of the early members of the family, meaning thick head of hair. More so funny in that Gaius Julius Caesar was quite bald early in his career, and was made fun of by his contemporaries.

  • @comb528491
    @comb528491 Год назад +8

    Can you do something on the Monarchs of the Deccan Plateau?
    The Nizam of Hyderabad was literally the richest man in the world, and his Asaf Jahi dynasty followed the Qutb Shahi Dynasty, who along with 4 other Sultanates were called the Deccan Sultanates, which all ruled land previously ruled by the Bahmani Empire

  • @BeWe1510
    @BeWe1510 Год назад +118

    The death of Kaiser Friedrich was really tragic and I am not even saying that because of his liberal ideas but because Wilhelm I missed his birthday by just two weeks, Friedrich ruled so shortly that he did not have a birthday while on the throne. At their birthday there was celebration and the Kaiser gave out gifts to the children of Berlin and so on but there was no Kaiser birthday for almost two years because of that, hard times man
    Really interesting video as always Matt! Even as a German I didn’t know that they still use male lines only. I know that they did historically and I never looked into their modern house rules, I guess I just assumed that they would have changed it by now

    • @kolomaznik333
      @kolomaznik333 Год назад +7

      He does not understand that or he made poor job by being so shallow while explaining that. They did not use nor used strict male-line only during 2nd reich time. Most of them used some form of semi-salic. (most of) Houses with many branches had all house males and then closest female of last ruler and then again her descedants by same rules (it makes sense .. if you are not woke). Only minority of german monarchies had strict male-line only. E.g. Austria was inheritable in male and female line since Babenberger times. Some house (their sole head) in recent years facing extinction (in amle line) changed house rules to absolute primogeniture (which doesn't make sense if there was already provision for female succession). One of claimants to headship of royal family of Sicily did same recently and same applies for one of claimants for kingdom of Italy.
      I need to say that absolute primogeniture is just progressive fashion nonsense, that otherwise makes no sense.
      Author(s) of this channel repeatedly makes easily avoidable mistakes in his videos.

    • @0000-z4z
      @0000-z4z Год назад +4

      ​@@kolomaznik333 Absolute primogeniture is not more nonsense then any other succession law.

    • @kolomaznik333
      @kolomaznik333 Год назад +1

      @@0000-z4z I do not talk about absolute primogeniture as nonsense like succession system. In that manner I think it would be nicer if it would evolve naturally in some of world monarchies that existed.
      I am talking of the "progressive trend fashion in the west to force it ideally everywhere where monarchy cannot be destroyed yet".
      Forcing it in the west, especially in countries with long tradition of female succession (like UK or Netherlands) make no other sense to me than progressive fashion trend.

    • @Llortnerof
      @Llortnerof Год назад +5

      @@kolomaznik333 The 19th century called. They're wondering where you went.

    • @KingJohnMichael
      @KingJohnMichael Год назад +5

      Germany would probably be better of now with a Kaiser 😅

  • @JohnSmith-gi2oy
    @JohnSmith-gi2oy Год назад +10

    Danke für das video, es war sehr interessant.

  • @JGGuitarCovers
    @JGGuitarCovers Год назад +74

    Great video! I've always been fascinated by the German royal houses especially Bavaria as I love the place. And as a Scottish native, I find it funny how our rightful king James III was deposed because he was Catholic and the UK ended up choosing a German relative to rule the UK so all the British royal family are descended from him yet the rightful descendant of James III also ended up being German - Franz Duke of Bavaria 😂 German ruler either way... amazing!

    • @JGGuitarCovers
      @JGGuitarCovers Год назад +2

      Can you do a video dedicated to the Bavarian royal family?

    • @Orphenbach1
      @Orphenbach1 Год назад +5

      Us Germans were always hard to avoid.

    • @dunnhaupt
      @dunnhaupt Год назад +4

      Everybody knows that Queen Victoria's eldest son was Edward VII, and that her eldest daughter, who was also named Victoria, married the German Emperor Friedrich whom she survived for decades as Dowager Empress of Germany. - But not everyone may know that another son of her and Albert of Saxe-Coburg returned to Germany as the reigning Duke of Saxe-Coburg. Victoria liked to visit both of them in Germany.

    • @nebelland8355
      @nebelland8355 8 месяцев назад

      And later one of his nephews became his heir. He was the second Duke of Albany and lived in England until he was 15.
      He is the infamous grandfather of the Swedish king. Infamous, because he later was a Nazi.

  • @ruyfernandez
    @ruyfernandez Год назад +10

    3:00 There is a little inaccuracy on the map. At the time of the German Confederation, the Austrian Empire still included Lombardy-Venetia, an then just Vetetia.

  • @scottadler
    @scottadler Год назад +14

    There were a whole lot more kingdoms, duchies, and principalities than that in German-speaking Europe! Not to mention Lichtenstein, which still exists. Look at a map of the German Empire before the Great War. Each of those two dozen bits of territory were internally sovereign with its own crown.

  • @Billionaireben
    @Billionaireben Год назад +7

    My old friend Anton Brzezinski once met a Hapsburg who was grandson of the last emperor of Austria, Ferdinand Hopf; he was a very friendly and generous man who might have been in the Royal family if history had gone different (he was very well off, even offering his new friend use of his Paris apartment; which like most offers he humbly never took them up on.) Personally, anyone who offers to do me a favor; I take into serious consideration.

  • @Thomas_the_Noble
    @Thomas_the_Noble Год назад +10

    I personally was quite surprised to see the Koháry last name in the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha family tree. Since I live in the same locality where the House of Koháry had their estates, properties, etc.

    • @visenyatargaryen9130
      @visenyatargaryen9130 Год назад +4

      A junior Saxe-Coburg prince married a wealthy heiress Kohary princess

    • @WilliamStarbearer
      @WilliamStarbearer Год назад +1

      @@visenyatargaryen9130and this marriage formed the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha-Koháry

  • @Edmonton-of2ec
    @Edmonton-of2ec 4 месяца назад +2

    16:25 Another interesting thing about Bernhard, Margrave of Baden is that his mother (who is still alive), Archduchess Valerie of Austria is a great-granddaughter of Franz Joseph I as her paternal grandmother was one of his daughters, Archduchess Marie Valerie. However, her title comes from paternal ancestry, as her paternal great-grandfather was Archduke Karl Salvator of Austria, a younger son of the penultimate Grand Duke of Tuscany, Leopold II, who was in turn a grandson of Holy Roman Emperor Leopold II.

  • @REOGURU
    @REOGURU Год назад +4

    Fascinating! Stumbled upon your channel by chance. Nice work!

  • @str.77
    @str.77 9 месяцев назад +2

    One may add that while the Kingdom of Hannover was annexed by Prussia, the royal family were also next in succession to the much smaller Duchy of Brunswick when the Duke died without heir (I think sometime in the 1880s). However, due to the Hannover line not accepting the Prussian conquest of their country, the Prussians blocked the succession in Brunswick for decades. I think it was in 1913 when Ernst August III married a Prussian princess (as visible at 15:51) that he was allowed to become Duke of Brunswick. So even if the Kingdom of Hannover would not be resurrected, he and his line would be Dukes of Brunswick.

  • @paulkoza8652
    @paulkoza8652 Год назад +25

    You mentioned that the claimant to Emperor of Austria would also be King of Bohemia. Being of Czech descent, I'm wondering if there are any descendants of Czech rulers who could also claim this crown.

    • @kolomaznik333
      @kolomaznik333 Год назад +6

      Short answer: Yes they are. Roughly thousand at least.
      Longer answer: Just learn how to use the internet. It is not that hard to find.
      How do i know? I am Czech myself.

    • @Magic-mystery-man
      @Magic-mystery-man Год назад +10

      True last slavic king of Bohemia (Přemyslovci dynasty) was Wenceslaus III, who died in 1306. After that the kings come from various other dynasties. Karl von Habsburg is the current heir, since the last king of Bohemia was Karl I of Austria.

    • @ruyfernandez
      @ruyfernandez Год назад +6

      I would argue that the duke of Hohenberg, though from a morganatic line, could actually have a claim to Bohemia. This is because the wife of Archduke Francis Ferdinand, Sophie, Duchess of Hohenberg, was from a non-sovereing Bohemian noble house. Her rank makes the marriage morganatic, but her origin makes her descendents closer to Bohemia. Furthermore, though morganatic, the Hohenberg line is actually the most senior line of the Habsburg dynasty today, being that the most senior dynasts descend from Francis Ferdinand's younger brother. That being said, Hohenbergs since then are mostly just Austrian.

    • @Edmonton-of2ec
      @Edmonton-of2ec Год назад

      I would advise against anyone else doing so, given the legend that if anyone who is not the legitimate King of Bohemia is crowned, they will die within 3 years. So much so that there is a rumour that Reinhard Heydrich placed the Crown of St. Wenceslaus on his head in 1941. He was assassinated the next year.

    • @kolomaznik333
      @kolomaznik333 Год назад

      @@ruyfernandez If Bohemia woud be sovereign at the time of accession of Franz Ferdinand then his children could be heirs of throne. No need for equal marriage.

  • @sakarael_rex
    @sakarael_rex Год назад +44

    As a proud Württemberg monarchist, I'll present a few interesting facts about the Württembergers for those who are interested:
    - King Wilhelm II was regarded by the citizens as a beloved and popular king. He was greeted by the inhabitants of Stuttgart when walking through the city with his dogs with the words: "Grüß Gott, Herr König" (Greetings, King), and Wilhelm II would then doff his hat in return and give the children sweets.
    - Duke/Crown Prince Albrecht of Württemberg became commander-in-chief of the 4th Army on the Western Front at the start of WWI on 2 August 1914. He was instrumental in the victory at the Battle of Neufchateau in the Ardennes. Under his command, the infamous attack by semi-trained war volunteers at Langemarck in the First Battle of Flanders (transfigured into the myth of Langemarck) and the first poison gas attack on 22 April 1915 at Ypres in the Second Battle of Flanders also took place. He was considered one of the most capable German army commanders of the World War. Due to his military merits, Kaiser Wilhelm II awarded him the Order Pour le Mérite on 22 August 1915 and the Oak Leaves on 25 February 1918. He also appointed him Prussian Field Marshal on 1 August 1916. From 7 March 1917, he commanded the entire southern section of the Western Front from Verdun to the Swiss border as Commander-in-Chief of Army Group "Duke Albrecht". In contrast to the Prussian Crown Prince Wilhelm and the Bavarian Crown Prince Rupprecht, he remained at his post after the outbreak of the November Revolution until immediately before Christmas 1918 and led the troops of the army group under his command safely back home.
    He was also critical of National Socialism (as was much of the Catholic nobility in Germany) and no high-ranking National Socialist appeared at his funeral in October 1939. Adolf Hitler merely sent a wreath. There were also no Nazi banners.
    - Duke Carl of Württemberg had been a Familiare of the Teutonic Knights since 1979, and on 21 May 2009 he was made an Honorary Knight of the Commandery of Tauber, Neckar and Lake Constance. He was a very good friend of King Juan Carlos I of Spain and on 31 May 2002 Pope John Paul II presented him with the Commander's Cross of the Pontifical Order of Knights of St Gregory the Great.
    - Duke Wilhelm of Württemberg, the current head, is directly related to the last King of Württemberg. He is a direct descendant of the last Crown Prince, Albrecht Duke of Württemberg. The last King of Württemberg, Wilhelm II, had only one daughter, Princess Pauline (1877-1965), who married Prince Friedrich Hermann zu Wied (1872-1945), who had been Prince zu Wied since 1907. But Duke Wilhelm of Württemberg is a great-great-great-grandson of King Wilhelm II of Württemberg on his mother's side through Princess Pauline zu Wied and thus also a descendant of the royal line of Württemberg.

    • @Extys
      @Extys Год назад +1

      That was very interesting, thank you for sharing your encyclopedic knowledge of the topic with us!

    • @Philipp.of.Swabia
      @Philipp.of.Swabia Год назад

      Swabian Monarchy = best Monarchy.

    • @visenyatargaryen9130
      @visenyatargaryen9130 Год назад

      About Carl of Wurttemberg. There is a rumour that his wife, Diane d'Orleans had affair with Juan Carlos of Spain and their youngest child, Fleur is actually Juan Carlos' daughter.
      I don't know the accuracy of this things. But it's wild!

    • @y4747t
      @y4747t Год назад

      Ser amigo de Juancar...no es ningún mérito@@visenyatargaryen9130

  • @jogisape
    @jogisape Год назад +9

    Great work in total; the issue with the North German Confederation have been mentioned already. But there is a big lack of knowledge: there is a third Kaiser in Germany. His name is Franz Beckenbauer.

  • @NaomiClareNL
    @NaomiClareNL Год назад +8

    Can you do the minor houses too? Can't leave us hanging with all those dukes, grand or not etc.

  • @annehersey9895
    @annehersey9895 Год назад +15

    I was hoping you would do ALL of the parts of the HRE-like the principalities, and say Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, Hesse, and all those little ones who had princes or grand dukes or dukes but they did rule their little corner of the HRE. That would be a really fun chart!

    • @rivenoak
      @rivenoak Год назад +2

      me lives in Baden, a former Grand Duchy. such a title would be posh as eff :D

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Год назад +1

      The whole saxon bordergore is absolute chaos. There were like 8 territories and 5.3 lines that ruled over some of it, then split, got together, gave territory, etc. At one point one line died out, another line took over the territory and gave up their previous lands, which was then incorporated into a third land, but none of them changed their name.

    • @paulmielke5939
      @paulmielke5939 Год назад

      @@HappyBeezerStudios. Sounds very confusing?!?

  • @stevenp8279
    @stevenp8279 8 месяцев назад +3

    There is an error in your explanations: The Kingdoms of Bavaria and Würtemberg did not belong to the North-German Federation between 1866 and 1871. They were integrated with the German Reich from 1871 after they had joined the Franco-Prussian War becoming the Franco German War of 1870/71.

  • @feeling-dizzie
    @feeling-dizzie Год назад +16

    The "hi, this is Matt Baker" opening always sounds like you're leaving a voicemail. And then I get a kick out of thinking of the whole thing as a very earnest, infodump-y voicemail just for me :)

    • @juttaweise
      @juttaweise Год назад +1

      I thought you talked about "Ma Baker".... and I had that tune directly in my ears hahahahaha

  • @Albrecht_von_Preussen
    @Albrecht_von_Preussen 2 месяца назад +2

    FYI, Georg Friedrich’s marriage to Sophie is technically also a morganatic marriage, not because of standing, but Sophie is a Catholic. Our house rules do not permit a marriage to a Catholic raised spouse even if this spouse converts to the Prussian Lutheran faith.
    But, this is 2024 and I am glad Georg and Sophie are happy and have beautiful children.

  • @bernardobaldissera
    @bernardobaldissera Год назад +6

    Thank you for the video. Some suggestions: I think you should have put the pictures of the people that followed the head of the house line for each house. Also, I don't understand why you cut so hard a line between kingdoms and duchys, etc. There are many monarchies (Baden, Luxembourg, Monaco, Lietchestein, Milan, Parma, etc) that could make nice content for future videos.

  • @Hilaire_Balrog
    @Hilaire_Balrog Год назад +20

    Excellent video. I have always been interested in German monarchies since a kid. Not sure why, as a black american kid, I was drawn to it but it's so very interesting.

    • @mappingshaman5280
      @mappingshaman5280 Год назад +3

      >since a kid
      >as a kid
      There's your answer

    • @juttaweise
      @juttaweise Год назад +4

      @@mappingshaman5280 don't be petty, sometimes our brain jumps. I'm sure he wanted to write since childhood,
      but his brain was already by his wondering why he was interested.

    • @mappingshaman5280
      @mappingshaman5280 Год назад +3

      @@juttaweise I'm making fun of the fact that most of these monarchists at the very least on the internet, seem to be teenagers. No pettiness involved.

    • @juttaweise
      @juttaweise Год назад +1

      @@mappingshaman5280 no harm meant!

    • @Hilaire_Balrog
      @Hilaire_Balrog Год назад +1

      @@mappingshaman5280 I’m in my 50s now. Teen years were long ago.

  • @annehersey9895
    @annehersey9895 Год назад +7

    Otto von Hapsburg was a great man who got involved in Democratic politics and during the cold war, I believe towards the end, he had a friendship picnic. Where the borders of Austria, Germany and Czechia meet people from all three countries met and mingled-not crossing each others border. There is actually a table with benches there where if 3 people sit, there is one person in each country. Otto was a wonderful peacemaker. AND, In Hanover, Ernst August was married to Princess Thyra of Denmark, daughter of King Christian IX of Denmark. Her brothers were the Kings of Denmark, Norway and Greece and her sisters were Queen Alexandra of the UK, Tzarina Dalmar (Maria Feodorova) of Russia-mother of Nicholas II the last Tzar. I'd say those kids married well.

    • @doubledee9675
      @doubledee9675 5 месяцев назад +1

      "Otto von Hapsburg was a great man" - you beat me to saying this. I'd only add that he was also a great European. Of course, he could not get a State funeral, but the ones he did receive honoured a man who made an enormous contribution to Europe.

  • @borginburkes1819
    @borginburkes1819 11 месяцев назад +2

    Georg Friedrich looks strikingly like Kaiser willhelm

  • @deniseeulert2503
    @deniseeulert2503 Год назад +8

    That patchwork is why I am here today. When Bismarck was busily mopping up, or unifying the Germanies one of my great grandfathers was sixteen and about to be drafted. He didn't fancy being cannon fodder so he fled to America, where he already had a brother working a farm. He had no money for the passage so he stowed away, was found, and worked his passage on a ship.

    • @KingJohnMichael
      @KingJohnMichael Год назад +1

      Bismarck is still considered a German hero here

    • @erraticonteuse
      @erraticonteuse Год назад +1

      ​@@KingJohnMichael Bismarck also has the capital of North Dakota named after him. He sent them a nice thank you note (though IIRC, they were actually trying to entice him into investing in a railroad they wanted to build.)

    • @juttaweise
      @juttaweise Год назад

      *Denise*, that is a wonderful story, thanks for sharing. And thank god he fled, otherwise you
      maybe would not be writing here.

  • @TeddyBaarson
    @TeddyBaarson Год назад +3

    16:30 Funfact to Hamburg as a free Reichstadt the Mayor of the City was on the same level as a Duke. And there is even a saying "A Hamburg mayor kneels or bows the head to no one, neither to an emperor nor to the church" It is also customary for the mayor to stop on the last step to greet his guests, the Only exception was Queen Elizabeth II but only due to that our Mayor helped her up the staris

  • @SkyTheHusky
    @SkyTheHusky Год назад +9

    You should make some videos on the more recently abolished kingdoms all in 1 video, such as Romania, Bulgaria etc.

  • @Idk-ys7rt
    @Idk-ys7rt Год назад +4

    Hello Matt Baker! Love your content ♥️

  • @PauxloE
    @PauxloE Год назад +5

    Small correction for the map at 3:30: The North German Federation of 1866 actually didn't include Bavaria and Württemberg (and some other southern states) - these only joined when the Empire was founded 5 years later (during the franco-german war). (Also, the German Emperor stayed King of Prussia in Personal Union, didn't abolish this title.)
    I'm waiting for the family trees of all the other german monarchies (grand duchies, duchies, principalities) too.

  • @BarrySuridge
    @BarrySuridge Год назад +14

    The German word for 'Emperor' is Kaiser which is what both countries called their respective monarchs. I am perplexed as to how anyone could refer to the Kaiser von Österreich (Austria) as anything other than Kaiser.

    • @GaborSzabo747
      @GaborSzabo747 Год назад +2

      In Hungary he would be called King.

    • @viktator4205
      @viktator4205 Год назад +2

      The same way we say Emperor instead of Tianzi

    • @magentacyan6086
      @magentacyan6086 Год назад +1

      Austria had a lot of languages (and still has as minorities), so it's only natural their would be translations for "Kaiser" in use.

    • @GaborSzabo747
      @GaborSzabo747 Год назад +1

      @@magentacyan6086 We would call him King, because in 1848 we threw the Habsburgs out of the window in a rebellion. Which was later crushed by the help of Russia, but the hate still remained.
      Over the years things softened and in 1867 the two nations came into a Reconciliation, and Hungary accepted back the Habsburgs by crowning Franz Joseph as King of Hungary.
      So there was this interesting situation where FJ (and all his successors) was Kaiser of the Empire but King of Hungary.
      Edit: and that meant 2 coronation ceremoni for a ruler :D

    • @OogaBooga-tq7jc
      @OogaBooga-tq7jc Год назад +1

      @@magentacyan6086 The Emperor of Austria-Hungary was always and only from German-Austria and a Habsburg. And they basically created the whole thing and called themselves *Kaiser*

  • @morrigankasa570
    @morrigankasa570 6 месяцев назад +17

    I would support a restoration of a German Empire/Monarchy.

  • @gillesjoly3811
    @gillesjoly3811 4 месяца назад +1

    Simple, easy to follow chart. Very well done.

  • @palastofhistory4026
    @palastofhistory4026 Год назад +5

    5:10 I would like to point out that even though prince Wilhelm fought in ww2 he most definitely was not a nazi In fact he was opossed to the nazis and he was involved in a coup against them
    (the Oster Conspiracy)

  • @Deltaflot1701
    @Deltaflot1701 5 месяцев назад +2

    Fun fact: ABBA member Anni-Frid Lyngstad was married to Heinrich Ruzzo Prinz Reuss von Plauen who was the head of house of the Principality of Reuss-Gera, until his death in 1999

  • @nolanhathaway8222
    @nolanhathaway8222 Год назад +8

    You should do the dukes and grand dukes next

  • @theromanbaron
    @theromanbaron 7 месяцев назад +1

    It is important to note that the reign of Blessed Karl of Austria was predicted by 4 very holy people, and one saint.
    1. A Holy Nun said (while Karl was still a child) that Karl needed prayers because he would be the special attack of hell, and would be emperor one day. (He was far from the throne at this time).
    2. Pope St. Pius X offered mass for Karl’s newly betrothed future spouse, Zita. It was there where he said Karl would become Emperor and would be special in the hearts of his people but that it would not be known until after this death.
    3. The Hungarian Bishop to the family had a dream of Archduke Franz and his wife Sophie. There a letter in black on his desk said that he had been killed in a political assassination with his wife. The bishop woke at 3:15am. It wasn’t until that afternoon reports came in that Franz and his wife were murdered.
    4. Lastly, December of 1913, Franz told Karl that he knew he would die soon. And that everything he needed would be in his desk for when he was Emperor.
    Blessed Karl was a man of peace and Holy will. May he pray for us!

  • @ethanjacobrosca7833
    @ethanjacobrosca7833 Год назад +15

    Maybe you can do a series charting the Family trees of the different German Royal Houses! Some of them actually had an influence far beyond Germany. For example, as you have stated, the Hanoverian state was once in a personal Union with Great Britain and later the UK. Also, the first King of Greece was Otto from the House of Wittelsbach (but he was eventually deposed and the former Greek Royal Family is from the House of Glucksburg). Also, a cadet branch of the House of Hohenzollern once sat on the throne of Romania and the Royal Family of Bulgaria is actually part of the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (he even had a brief stint as Bulgaria’s prime minister).

    • @OogaBooga-tq7jc
      @OogaBooga-tq7jc Год назад +1

      Literally every single european land has had a german royal dynasty with a german monarch at the helm of the country at some point of their history. And there are several very big german royal houses that had been very influential far beyond Germany. So that could be a long video. The Glucksburgs are also from Germany btw.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Год назад +1

      I tried making a map of the saxe-coburg territorial ownerships. That alone took hours.

    • @apveening
      @apveening Год назад

      @@OogaBooga-tq7jc "Literally every single european land has had a german royal dynasty with a german monarch at the helm of the country at some point of their history."
      Really? Please name the German royal dynasties of Venice (the republic), Malta, Andorra and Monaco.

  • @fabiankohring1440
    @fabiankohring1440 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great video! Looking forward for part 3 about the reigning princess.

  • @ruyfernandez
    @ruyfernandez Год назад +18

    6:00 The use of the title "Prince of Prussia" is actually not unofficial in Germany today. After WW1, nobility and royalty were indeed abolished in Germany, however former members of noble and royal houses were allowed to officially keep their rank by including it in their surnames. So, technically, the official names and surnames of the current heads of german houses are Georg Fridrich Prinz von Preussen, Max Hertzog in Bayern etc.. This however is not the case in Austria, where not only was noble titles were abolished but also surname noble particles. So the official, legal name the head of the house of Habsburg in Austria today is not Karl Erherzog von Österreich (as would be the case in Germany), and not even Karl von Habsburg-Lothringen, but just Karl Habsburg-Lothringen.

    • @ramirosotto
      @ramirosotto Год назад +2

      I think Austria's decision was better

    • @katherinegilks3880
      @katherinegilks3880 Год назад +6

      @@ramirosotto Dictating what people can have as a surname isn’t better.

    • @ramirosotto
      @ramirosotto Год назад +3

      ​@@katherinegilks3880 well, you're right, I meant Austria's decision make more sense to me if you want to install a republican culture. Both German and Austrian ways were wrong if you see it that way. But let's go even further. Weren't the German or Austrian empires (or any other monarchy in general for that matter) wrong when they dictate who can and who can not "hold a title" in their name?

    • @CarpeVerpa
      @CarpeVerpa Год назад +1

      Given the differences between the Weimar Republic and the modern German government, I do wonder if that still holds true? I'm genuinely curious, not trying to argue.

    • @QemeH
      @QemeH Год назад +4

      Well, if you want to be all "well, ackchually..." about it...
      The royal houses were NOT allowed to officially keep their rank! They were allowed to use the _former_ rank (and no new rank was allowed to be bestowed!) as a family name, which thereafter was passed on _like a family name_ (with the exception of being allowed to gender the name - i.e. the daughter of "Franz Herzog von Bayern" was allowed to be "Anna Herzogin von Bayern" instead of "Anna Herzog von Bayern"). So while you are correct in saying that "Herzog von Bayern" is their legally official surname (as printed in their passports), they did NOT keep their rank. There is no nobility in germany, legally speaking.

  • @CanonessEllinor
    @CanonessEllinor Год назад +7

    I can’t believe there was a cousin marriage on this chart and it was NOT in the house of Habsburg

  • @tenkaikagaya
    @tenkaikagaya Год назад +6

    This is inaccurate. The electors of Saxons were also dukes. The issue is that the title “Duke of Saxony” was used by many divided parts due to gavelkind succession in one branch of the House of Wettin.
    Incidentally the Albertine and Ernestine branches of the Wettins and their many many Saxonies would be a fun topic for this channel.

    • @markbatty9081
      @markbatty9081 Год назад +1

      well put james, i like this channel, and even if makes an error, he is happy to correct things for his listeners. great information, presented with a kind tone in his voice

    • @reggiebosanquet1525
      @reggiebosanquet1525 Год назад +2

      Agreed all the Electors kept their temporal and spiritual titles. The title Elector was only relevant when they sat in the House of Electors in the Imperial Diet.

  • @shimanopetermann9068
    @shimanopetermann9068 Год назад +5

    About the Saxonian claim: There's actually a third claimant today. Since neither the descendants of princess Anna (including Alexander) nor the descendants of Prince Timo (including Daniel) would have a claim according to the house laws, the claim would - if we adhered strictly to this house laws - actually pass through a more distant and more senior line of the house of Wettin all the way to prince Michael-Benedict of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach who is the current head of the House of Wettin alltogether. This would mean that the division of the house of Wettin into an Ernestine line and an Albertine line has ended after 500 years. Although the pronce of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach has not yet announced a claim on Saxony, he and the heads of the remaining Wettin branches have all proclaimed that Alexander is not a member of the house of Wettin with no claims on the specific titles.

    • @dimkyrio1333
      @dimkyrio1333 Год назад +1

      Why Maria Emmanuel of Saxony has the right to choose his heir, but Albrecht Mat think not? There is no dispute! Rudiger is the male heir of the house and as every royal house these days its allright the morgonatic marriage if is allowed from the head of the family. And Albrecht he was allowed that.Prince Alexander is next in line only if the male line extinc...

    • @shimanopetermann9068
      @shimanopetermann9068 Год назад

      ​@@dimkyrio1333True, most princess and princesses in the last decades married commoners without being disowned, but I think the difference between them and Timo of Saxony is that they aquired the consent of the head of their respective houses to marry. Basically they all asked the heads of their houses to make an exception for them regarding the house laws. Since Timo of Saxony and his descendants didn't do this, the old house laws apply to them.

  • @bj0rn986
    @bj0rn986 Год назад +24

    Kaiser is just the german word for any Emperor, so the Austrian Emperors used this title too.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Год назад

      IT comes from the same title that the russian Czar comes from: caesar

  • @jacquelinefickis1734
    @jacquelinefickis1734 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for sharing Who Would Be the Monarchs of Germany 🇩🇪 Today?

  • @otakuofmine
    @otakuofmine Год назад +7

    cool heraldry map at the end. would be cool to see the heirs of the duchies etc and what you say about them. Personally interested as it mentions the former free cities, among them Luebeck my birth place, who sadly lost its status, but has a rich history from being the first town given city right (and others modelled after) over leader of the Hansa League to defying Napoleon's troupes (they only lost due a traitor opening the gates).

  • @icylion1234
    @icylion1234 Год назад +7

    I got this notification while I was writing down the Belgian royal family tree, while watching your other video! 👍🏼

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Год назад +1

      Ahh, yet another house where the ernestine saxon line sits, right besides the british royal line... And now, that is not the line of the kingdom of saxony, but of about half a dozen saxon duchies.

  • @cloudpunk8436
    @cloudpunk8436 Год назад +4

    Nice video but i missed a bit the fact that the current Duke of Bavaria spend the most time of his childhood in a Nazi-concentration camp since the bavarian Royal Family was also against the regime.

    • @finneogan
      @finneogan Год назад

      While the Hohenzollern heir who would have become Wilhelm III was an ally of Hitler and a big fan of the SA and the SS. He deluded himself into believing that Hitler would put him on the throne and played an important role in getting Hitler to power through the conservative-nationalist coalition.

    • @palastofhistory4026
      @palastofhistory4026 Год назад +2

      @@finneogan I wouldn't say a ally hitler and crown prince wilhelm used each other for their own goals
      In Private they couldn't stand each other crown prince wilhelm even had some contacts in the German Resistance and knew of coup plots like the oster conspiracy in 1938 and operation valkyrie in 1944
      Had he actually been a Nazi then he would have reported this to the authority's but he didn't
      He even called the nazis dangerous and that His son's should stay away from these poeple
      (Just like his father wilhelm II said to him)
      To sum it up They where never actually allies the crown prince was no nazi and hitler and crown prince wilhelm hated each other

    • @viktoriakohler1224
      @viktoriakohler1224 4 месяца назад

      ​​​@@palastofhistory4026But he made propaganda for the Nazis. Thatcis fact. And other people went to prison after WWII and lost their reputation, and work for the state... Men like Gottfried Benn, He did nothing but didn't go to Exile. He was never in knowlege of secrets of the German underground. It was all found out after the current leader of the family claimed back the fully restored Cäcilienhof in Berlin. Which was an awkward idea in my opinion. But rich people always try to get more and more. The same as the Markgraf von Baden. He asked back a lot of parts of the antiques collection of Baden-Württemberg. Now luckily a man made a research in the archives and it was found out, nothing belonged to the Markgrafs family. It was all written down in a legal contract between Baden and the Markgrafs grandfather or great grandfather after the Revolution of 1918. This man has studied in Harvard and is an fincial expert but not a Patriot at all. I detest him for saying if our country Baden has no money for keeping the antiques, we shall sell out our Nibelungenlied. The Nibelungenlied is our eldest Epos in German language. Would the English sell the Magna Carta? The contract from 1066? Or America 0:00 ns the bill of rights? No good idea....

  • @ColHoganGer90
    @ColHoganGer90 Год назад +7

    Commoners in Germany still keep aristocratic titles as part of their official names. Herr Georg Friedrich Prinz von Preussen (exactly in that order and without any honorifics) is his legal name in Germany.

    • @nHans
      @nHans Год назад +2

      "Herr" is not a part of his name. It's the German equivalent of the English "Mr."

  • @frankveck7988
    @frankveck7988 Год назад +4

    There is a little mistake at 3:30. The borderline does not include the south of the Grand Duchy of Baden. And after 1871 Alsace Lorraine was part of the German Empire as well. So the border in the German southwest is a little bit off.

  • @fabulouschild2005
    @fabulouschild2005 Год назад +1

    Fun facts! Tsar Simeon II of Bulgaria ruled Bulgaria twice: he was Tsar, obviously, as a boy and was deposed after ww2. But, more recently, he also served as Prime Minister of Bulgaria!

    • @HarmSchelhaas
      @HarmSchelhaas Год назад +1

      Prime Minister Sakskoburgotsky - which was how Saxe-Coburg and Gotha was turned into a Bulgarian surname.

  • @frankstippel5988
    @frankstippel5988 Год назад +4

    This guy has no clue, the emperor is Franz Beckenbauer.

  • @theoneandonlybosable
    @theoneandonlybosable Год назад +1

    Honey wake up new Useful Charts banger

  • @SchlossRitter
    @SchlossRitter Год назад +16

    An odd thing about these alternate histories is that at least two of the eldest sons listed here died in war childless after their family was no longer considered royals. However, there's little chance they would have been anywhere near combat had the thrones been intact, meaning they would've had the chance to produce heirs of their own instead of the claims passing over to siblings or cousins.

    • @goofygrandlouis6296
      @goofygrandlouis6296 Год назад

      true

    • @brianvogt8125
      @brianvogt8125 Год назад +6

      True. Also, 2 princes of Preußen made themselves (theoretically) ineligible by marrying below their station, which they probably wouldn't have done if royalty still existed. So there are imaginary projections which weren't forced to happen.

    • @HenryLoenwind
      @HenryLoenwind Год назад +2

      That's why the video is about "what if monarchy got reinstated now" instead of "what if monarchy wasn't abolished".

    • @SchlossRitter
      @SchlossRitter Год назад

      @@HenryLoenwind good point

  • @luisv.1507
    @luisv.1507 Год назад +2

    Concerning the Kings of Bavaria: From 1886-1913 Otto was King of Bavaria, but because of mental illness, did never reign. So the reigning person was his uncle Luitpold as 'Prince regent' or 'Prinzregent' till he died in 1912 and was followed by his son Ludwig, who now was Prinzregent (not King since 1904). In 1913, the constitution was changed, and Ludwig was declared King. Otto lost his potential rights as a King (which he actually could never exercise), but still did hold the title of King. So till Otto died in 1916 Bavaria had two Kings, one reigning King, Ludwig III., and one without any rights, Otto.

  • @edspace.
    @edspace. Год назад +8

    One thing I had wondered was who'd be Poland's monarch today (whether that be the partition never happening, the November 11th Act being fulfilled or the proposal to restore the Polish Crown in 1989 had been carried out) but then I thought, I'm not sure if that would be possible given Poland was an elected monarchy.

    • @MrSinclairn
      @MrSinclairn Год назад +2

      I do not know if Matt has done that Polish one in an earlier vid,might have to look through the online archive,but if not,that def. one for future work ! 👌👍

    • @edspace.
      @edspace. Год назад

      @@MrSinclairn Thanks, I'll have to go back through the videos and see if I missed it.

    • @bewareofpigeons
      @bewareofpigeons Год назад +2

      I believe the kings of Poland were elected from various leading families: Sobieski and Poniatowski spring to mind.

    • @edspace.
      @edspace. Год назад

      @@bewareofpigeons Interesting, and these families can be traced from 1792. Which would allow an interesting video, since it would provide a candidacy range for the "who'd be the monarch of Poland?".

    • @Tufta759
      @Tufta759 Год назад +2

      Constitution of 1791 stated that it WOULD BE king of Saxony

  • @czgamesnik
    @czgamesnik 4 месяца назад

    One thing about Wurttemberg duke Albrecht was to Wilhelm II third cousin via his father duke Phillipp, but he was too second cousin once removed when his mother was second cousin of Wilhelm II.

  • @dominikfranzen8247
    @dominikfranzen8247 3 месяца назад +3

    Leider gibt es keine Monarchie mehr in Deutschland

  • @bearlamb5026
    @bearlamb5026 2 месяца назад +1

    The German royal households are completely different than you think. They are never considered common, even to this day. All royals from these separate countries in Germany are still considered royal, and never common, as most of them marry other royals in Germany. They make up 1% of the population of Germany. As they marry other royals, they can keep their title. They are provided with royal welfare, getting a certain amount every month from the German government. They also receive free Medicare, free prescriptions, and are locked into a different tax bracket where they only pay 2% of property and civil tax. The average monthly amount they receive from the government per person is $3,480 euros, which will increase to 4,000 euros per person in 2025.
    Contracts were signed with the government and the royal households. If one individual marries a German commoner or a foreigner without a royal title, they forfeit these items. So, they will not receive any money from the government, and they will not get free Medicare. They would be put into a different tax bracket. Also, they hold different passports. These passports are a different color and give them different rights in a courtroom. Different rights apply if they get arrested as they cannot be arrested by a police officer without a court warrant. They sort of have diplomatic immunity in their own country.
    The German royal households can also defend themselves against intruders. They actually have the national right to defend themselves. Now, the German government cannot cancel this order of giving them royal welfare, nor can they buy them out. This contract is signed in gold. There are only two ways of not paying former royal subjects of Germany: one would be to remove Germany and give it to another country, the second one is putting all the royals back into power and removing the government of Germany. The contract is over 300 pages long and cannot be shown to the public, only to government officials in the royal household. So, we do not know what it says inside that contract as it is not open source.

  • @gummibrot4948
    @gummibrot4948 7 месяцев назад +4

    German here. I think the word emperor is equated with Caesar. The desire to preserve the Western Roman Empire. The term emperor is therefore culturally and spiritually charged. Only a pope can crown an emperor. So only an Austrian emperor is a true emperor if you go back down the line. Bismark persuaded the Prussian king to become the head of state of the Germans. He could also have remained king and been president of Germany. But an imperial dignity was desired. So, with gritted teeth, the Prussian called himself “German Kaiser” and not Emperor of Germany. But always with the addition of King of Prussia. His true title.

    • @AML2000
      @AML2000 5 месяцев назад +2

      The last emperor of the Holy Roman Empire to be crowned by the pope was Charles V in 1530. After that, the Habsburg emperors didn't bother with that formality, and officially termed themselves "Emperor-Elect".

    • @gummibrot4948
      @gummibrot4948 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@AML2000 The (Spanish) Habsburg Charles V was the last emperor to rule half of Western Europe, crowned by Pope Clement IIV. His competitors for the imperial title were Henry VIII of England and Francis I of France. But in 1519 the German princes elected the Habsburg emperor. Pope Clemens IIV had to follow suit. Yes, the last papal coronation of an emperor. Because it was the time of Martin Luther. From then on there were Catholic and Protestant camps. The sacred universal claim (protector of Christianity) was gone, and with it the papal coronation. Habsburg Charles V was the holder of several crowns and tried to enforce the universal monarchy (emperor of Europe). Basically the early form of the EU. (joke)

  • @tapele5987
    @tapele5987 4 месяца назад +2

    Fun fact: if Austria-Hungary hadn't disappeared after WW1, Otto von Habsburg would have been the Emperor from 1922 (the death of Karl I/IV) to 2007 (when he renounced to his claims and passed them to his son) So he would have had the longest reign in history, finally beating Louis XIV (what I thought Elizabeth II would achieve) with a whopping 85 years on the throne

  • @heinwlod3895
    @heinwlod3895 Год назад +4

    8:22 no, he wouldn't be automatically Emperor of the HRE, since this title was not inherited, but awarded thruogh an election among the electoral princes.

    • @JyrgenHærensøn
      @JyrgenHærensøn 2 месяца назад

      I was about to say that, plus the HRE was more or less dissolved after prussia became the leading German nation.

  • @publicminx
    @publicminx 4 месяца назад +1

    btw., 'Neuschwanstein' castle (New-Swan-Stone) was created by Ludwig II. from Bavaria. The 'Marienburg castle' close to Hannover was created by Georg V. - that castle became recently famous for being the School in the German series 'Maxton Hall' (most successful 'International' show in Amazon Prime history - Nr. 1 in 110 countries right from the start).

  • @geraldgriffin8220
    @geraldgriffin8220 Год назад +4

    Actually in Germany your title from prince on down, is part of your name, unlike as in Austria where even the use of the "von" is restricted.

  • @WaluigiPlushBros
    @WaluigiPlushBros Год назад +1

    Let’s go Useful Charts pumping out these 4K Remakes

  • @unknownhere4996
    @unknownhere4996 11 месяцев назад +3

    We were such a big, proud nice country with much history, monarchs and beautiful cities 🇩🇪✊🏼
    Unfortunately, power-hungry people have changed the country in a different direction…

  • @MrMcNeillNZ
    @MrMcNeillNZ Месяц назад +1

    I actually found Duo lingo easy to learn. (Apart from speaking English) I also speak the Māori language fluently and learnt both at home. I learnt to speak semi fluent Tagalog partially online and through total immersion. I'd watch movies only if they speak Tagalog, socialising with friends etc and I'm currently learning Gaelic from Duo. I think being originally bilingual made it easier for me to pick up languages. Swiss people speak up to three languages fluently so I think people should learn as many languages as they can.

  • @BrainySnacks
    @BrainySnacks Год назад +5

    I would love a video on the various major chassidic dynasties and their family trees (e.g. Lubavitch, Satmar, Ger, Bobov, Izhbitz, Vizhnitz, Karlin, Belz, Sanz, etc.). There is a ton of interesting history there, at the intersection of geopolitics, philosophy, and religious studies that I'm sure your subscribers would be interested in.

  • @manuelbbraun
    @manuelbbraun 5 месяцев назад +1

    As seen in the first map there is a hole in the middle of germany, where Hessen is today. But Hessen had a monarch and that monarch still exists as they are the monarchy of Luxemburg the monarchy of Nassau. That is why a part of Luxemburg has a tiny enclave in the heart of germany.
    The crypt below the castle church is that enclave of luxemburg, as it hosts the bones of prior monarchs.

  • @marten8148
    @marten8148 Год назад +6

    3:35 - The maps presented are really a bit of a mess! Firstly, you simply forgot to integrate the dukedoms of Schleswig and Holstein, Hesse, Nassau and Frankfurt into Prussia. Why do you change the borders in the case of Hanover but not in the case of the other states? They have been an integral part of the Kingdom of Prussia from that point on.
    Secondly, it is presented as if Baden had not been part of the empire. Pay close attention to 3:31. The red line retreats behind Baden, although with the founding of the Empire in 1871, the borders on the contrary even extended to Alsace-Lorraine.

    • @ruyfernandez
      @ruyfernandez Год назад +2

      Baden is not presented as not being part of the empire. It is clearly said that all the monarchies shown at the end were part of the german empire, and Baden is just one of them.

    • @marten8148
      @marten8148 Год назад

      @@ruyfernandez It would be beneficial to this discussion if you read my comment in full. I explicitly asked that you look closely at 3:31.
      There you can see that the red line, which previously represented the German Confederation, is now supposed to show the borders of the Empire. At this point, the line shifts to the east and excludes the borders of Baden. This is clear and cannot be interpreted in any other way!
      I therefore do not understand your point.

    • @ruyfernandez
      @ruyfernandez Год назад

      @@marten8148 sorry. I had not paid attention to the time code, I though you were talking about the armorial shown at the end. You are right indeed.

  • @ktbela86
    @ktbela86 Год назад +1

    Also interesting to note that Prince Ernst August of Hanover is married to Princess Caroline of Monaco. As the eldest child of Prince Ranier, if Monaco followed absolute rather than agnatic primogeniture, Caroline would have succeeded her father, with Ernst August as Prince Consort.

  • @GaborSzabo747
    @GaborSzabo747 Год назад +7

    Nice!
    One correction: you put the flag of Austrian Empire under Karl, but by that time (and actually since 1867, the Austrian-Hungarian Reconciliation) the country was called Austro-Hungarian Monarchy and the flag was the combination of Austrian and Hungarian flags.

    • @Merlilein_
      @Merlilein_ Год назад +8

      That was not actually the national flag, it’s just used for simplification most of the time and was used by trade ships. Austria Hungary used the Austrian and Hungarian flag, because the Hungarians nominally were not included in the state but rather only the same person as king as was the Austrian emperor.

  • @lerm_1989
    @lerm_1989 11 месяцев назад +1

    If the monarchy had not been abolished in Germany and Austria-Hungary, these two countries would surely be the two main European powers.

  • @fabianseitz2894
    @fabianseitz2894 Год назад +5

    The German Empire consisted also of 6 grand-duchies, 5 duchies and 7 principalities. So there were a lot more monarchs than just the kings.

    • @seanj2140
      @seanj2140 Год назад +3

      He covers this at the end of the video

    • @ruyfernandez
      @ruyfernandez Год назад +3

      And these are only the sovereign german monarchs. In addition to that there were also a bunch of mediatised monarchs, who were still however eligible for dynastic marriages (the princes of Hohenlohe, the princes of Sayn, the prince of Leiningen, the duke of Shleswig-Holstein, the duke of Arenberg, the duke of Croÿ...). There was even the mediatised duke of Nassau who was actually sovereign, not in Germany, but as grand duke of Luxenbourg.

    • @QemeH
      @QemeH Год назад +5

      ...is what the video says in the end...

    • @lukasrentz3238
      @lukasrentz3238 Год назад +1

      @@seanj2140 Well, the Video Title said "Who would be monarchs of germany today", for the grand duchies, duchies and principalities, he didn´t mention all current heads.

    • @seanj2140
      @seanj2140 Год назад +1

      @@lukasrentz3238 right he doesn't go into great detail but he does say almost word for word what the original commenter typed.