Very clean and cool bikes after 30+ years of riding 4 stroke allll the way for me lol I've just did an overhaul on my 212 need to do an update video, cool channel btw!!😁✌️💚
very intresting channel man! was looking at your videos! I love my 4 stroke it has outlived many 2 stroke builds that have come and gone over time lol!
It's why ive got a 4 stroke build goin on too. And im thinking itd be best if i got a frame like yours. All i see are the 2.4 liter frames. Theres an Indian inspired gas frame, 4.7liters i think snd some say they are steel and some aluminum, but not for purchase in the states that I'd like to be able to get, especially if i can get a steel one.
Thank you for posting this video. I have always wondered how these two stroke motors can be so cheap. I guess I know now. I would rather save up, and buy a decent 4 stroke motor, and build a nice motorized bike. It will save me a lot of time and hassles in the future. Cheers.
4 strokes big bore builds are for sure never super easy screw on type build. Tinkering build. But once you get it all set and done. So much better in long term. As far as reliable and long running. Heck of a lot smoother ride.
@@BuildBreakFix Thank you. I will opt for a small 49cc four stroke for some rails trails and such. I have been hooked to your videos in the last few days. I have learned so much about small motors and fabrication kills then any other channels. You should really post some videos of your workshop and some how to videos on welding and CAD design skills. You are tremendously talented. Keep up the great work. Thank you for doing such a great public service. I have subscribed.
@@yougod7253 my friend had one in his kid raced it was in a dirt bike and he said it was very reliable it never blew up, it has an auto transmission but it totally adjustable Auto clutch
Honestly never owned a bike till 2 years ago. Pandemic hit killed all my rc groups off. But worked on bikes for people last 8 years before that lol. I have 12 1/5 scale 2 stroke trucks and 27 1/5 and 1/4 scale boats. All 2 stroke. Cant even Count my rc helicopter and rc drone collection. But a guy said why not build a bike? Was like I guess lol. But I saw so many people getting screwed and started doing how to's to fix stuff. Honestly biggest reason was a kid in my rc club I ran followed a dumb ass how to la hover did and was severely hurt as a result. So here we are 2 years later and 450 videos later lol
@Build-Break-Fix that is amazing 👏 😍 you never know where you're headed, but it's always worth the journey! Thanks for the download, my man! Much respect 🙏 👏 🙌 💯
14:36 I’m thinking about getting my first kit 49cc 4 stroke and I wanted to know what are the cons of using a small rear sprocket like 28t or 32t on 4 strokes? Is it not the same as a 2 stroke? Do you still get a speed increase
Cheap* Centrifugal clutch will shutter. With smaller sprocket. If you buy a good mounting bracket. Cast one* vs bent sheet metal type helps a bunch. But better at clutch is main thing helps a 4 stroke kit work with smaller teeth sprocket mostly
What I mean by shutter is it has problems gripping out of gate and tends to vibrate as a result. Frame mount regardless is huge need period. Even with better clutch as cheaper mounts tend to flex causing vibration issues as well or on cheap frame flex leading to chain derailment
Great video bro definitely have to agree. I like them both far as motors go I used to build minibikes for years with the 4 stroke before I ever even got into motorized bikes I’ve built tons of four strokes before great motors I’ve built a lot of 212cc definitely reliable I’m actually been planning on picking up a 212 this week for my next build
Hell yeah I need a new project and I miss the 212 I had was a fun motor n yeah I should be putting out some videos pretty soon in the next couple weeks. I’ll be back making videos I am also trying to find a nice minibike frame to do a build on one of those to and that one’s also going to be a four stroke
In your personal opinion for a 2 stroke do you prefer a mineralli or stihl saw build? I’m leaning towards a Stihl head and piston for my 110cc but don’t know where to buy or start.
Minarelli is great if you buy aluminum top end! Cast iron sucks. Minarelli is super easy to build! Vs saw that is bit more work! Minarelli aluminum top end will cost few 100$$ for top end saw build 45$$ lol! So all about how much time you want to invest making one or how much you want to spend making one. But for a minarelli cast iron top end is not a good choice! Lots problems with those!
Nice video but I have to be honest I don't like 4 stroke on bikes they just look crazy to me and 2 stroke just sounds so much better 4strokes I'll just keep on go-cart lol
Now to be fair! I hate f'n 4 strokes on gokarts LOL All my gokarts I ever made had 150 to 200cc 2 strokes on them LOL Snow blower 2 stroke engines = Crazy fast on a gokart!
Man I buy those 100cc 69.8 CC engines off eBay for $135 I'll go get a bicycle from the thrift store twenty-five or thirty dollars I can build the whole thing for less than $200 I'll clean the engine up champer the ports I usually have pretty good luck
Question then so I probably should go with a new 50cc scooter??? I want a bike to get me from point A-B and goes around 30mph and is reliable and low maintenance. I was thinking motorized bike vs 50cc scooter and thought a conversation kit would be "cheaper" and lighter. I'm looking at a $100 2 stroke, or a $250 4 cylinder kit, or a BRAND NEW $900 50CC scooter complete from Amazon. I also don't like to modify things and I'm handy enough but don't enjoy working on vehicles. I never realized the true final cost. For someone like me I'm thinking about maybe just going with a 50cc moped. I still wouldn't need a motorcycle license. Is that the cheapest long term plug and play fix? Just for the city and some highway.
2 strokes? yeah! "Aluminum" Jug Minarelli can hit around 14 grand actually! rod bearings won't live long after 12k! Saw builds I heard can hit 12k! I never tried it lol! but have gotten one up to 11k before. Had one of the Minarelli builds up to 12k once. Practical nope! Greatly shortens life span yes! lol fun 105% lolz
Lol it was an ugly day! He touched my bike. It fell over... He said sorry and got into his Corvette. Then my keys dragged down his hood, fender door and trunk as he pulled out to drive off.
Great video 💯 I like the long reviews of the pros and cons , it was well measured. 👍😀 I prefer the 4stroke myself . I also prefer friction drive over chain or belt drive. And direct drive over a clutch. Thanks again for the video.
You know! I considered a friction drive off a cvt build. Been something I wanted to try for while now. Easy to stop and go. Plus it ramps up in speed as you go. Free wheel soon as you stop the gas. One day lol
Well depends! They are not different then a 2 stroke motorized bicycle kits when you get one! If you don't do certain things to them out of the box they don't last long! Just like 2 strokes full slag and crap like that. #1 failure is valves rocker arms come loose. tearing stuff up Loctite fixes that out of the box never touch it again for long time.
Very clean and cool bikes after 30+ years of riding 4 stroke allll the way for me lol I've just did an overhaul on my 212 need to do an update video, cool channel btw!!😁✌️💚
very intresting channel man! was looking at your videos! I love my 4 stroke it has outlived many 2 stroke builds that have come and gone over time lol!
@@BuildBreakFix exactly why I love them, 2 stroke sure does leave you stranded lol 😆 thanks btw appreciate it
It's why ive got a 4 stroke build goin on too.
And im thinking itd be best if i got a frame like yours.
All i see are the 2.4 liter frames.
Theres an Indian inspired gas frame, 4.7liters i think snd some say they are steel and some aluminum, but not for purchase in the states that I'd like to be able to get, especially if i can get a steel one.
Gas bike frame fits the best 4 stroke builds. Felt faker fits 2 strokes better. ruclips.net/video/Rxms8ZWNkfE/видео.html
Hell yeah there nice
Another great video! 👍
Thanks again!
Thank you for posting this video. I have always wondered how these two stroke motors can be so cheap. I guess I know now. I would rather save up, and buy a decent 4 stroke motor, and build a nice motorized bike. It will save me a lot of time and hassles in the future. Cheers.
4 strokes big bore builds are for sure never super easy screw on type build. Tinkering build. But once you get it all set and done. So much better in long term. As far as reliable and long running. Heck of a lot smoother ride.
@@BuildBreakFix Thank you. I will opt for a small 49cc four stroke for some rails trails and such. I have been hooked to your videos in the last few days. I have learned so much about small motors and fabrication kills then any other channels. You should really post some videos of your workshop and some how to videos on welding and CAD design skills. You are tremendously talented. Keep up the great work. Thank you for doing such a great public service. I have subscribed.
You ever thought about buying a 50 KTM clone motor has an automatic clutch I seen those on bikes they seem to be real reliable
@@yougod7253 my friend had one in his kid raced it was in a dirt bike and he said it was very reliable it never blew up, it has an auto transmission but it totally adjustable Auto clutch
I have a ktm 65 water cooled bottom half actually! Been thinking about it
My man, thanks for the video 📹 🙏 🙌 ❤️. Both bikes look amazing! Question, what was your hobbies before motorized bicycle? Have a good day 😊 💛
Honestly never owned a bike till 2 years ago. Pandemic hit killed all my rc groups off. But worked on bikes for people last 8 years before that lol. I have 12 1/5 scale 2 stroke trucks and 27 1/5 and 1/4 scale boats. All 2 stroke. Cant even Count my rc helicopter and rc drone collection. But a guy said why not build a bike? Was like I guess lol. But I saw so many people getting screwed and started doing how to's to fix stuff. Honestly biggest reason was a kid in my rc club I ran followed a dumb ass how to la hover did and was severely hurt as a result. So here we are 2 years later and 450 videos later lol
@Build-Break-Fix that is amazing 👏 😍 you never know where you're headed, but it's always worth the journey! Thanks for the download, my man! Much respect 🙏 👏 🙌 💯
14:36 I’m thinking about getting my first kit 49cc 4 stroke and I wanted to know what are the cons of using a small rear sprocket like 28t or 32t on 4 strokes? Is it not the same as a 2 stroke? Do you still get a speed increase
Pedaling to get it moving isn’t a big deal for me i’m 120 lbs and i do a lot of cardio
Cheap* Centrifugal clutch will shutter. With smaller sprocket. If you buy a good mounting bracket. Cast one* vs bent sheet metal type helps a bunch. But better at clutch is main thing helps a 4 stroke kit work with smaller teeth sprocket mostly
What I mean by shutter is it has problems gripping out of gate and tends to vibrate as a result. Frame mount regardless is huge need period. Even with better clutch as cheaper mounts tend to flex causing vibration issues as well or on cheap frame flex leading to chain derailment
Perfect explanation Alfred can we get to the nos for the bat mobile now shazaammm!!!!
I'll load up a 12 pounder just for you! Let me remove it from my neighbors corvette first LOL
Great video bro definitely have to agree. I like them both far as motors go I used to build minibikes for years with the 4 stroke before I ever even got into motorized bikes I’ve built tons of four strokes before great motors I’ve built a lot of 212cc definitely reliable I’m actually been planning on picking up a 212 this week for my next build
Hell yeah I miss my loud two stroker I can't lie it cost me more to maintain
very nice! your building bikes again? didn't know you where back!
Hell yeah I need a new project and I miss the 212 I had was a fun motor n yeah I should be putting out some videos pretty soon in the next couple weeks. I’ll be back making videos I am also trying to find a nice minibike frame to do a build on one of those to and that one’s also going to be a four stroke
In your personal opinion for a 2 stroke do you prefer a mineralli or stihl saw build? I’m leaning towards a Stihl head and piston for my 110cc but don’t know where to buy or start.
Minarelli is great if you buy aluminum top end! Cast iron sucks. Minarelli is super easy to build! Vs saw that is bit more work! Minarelli aluminum top end will cost few 100$$ for top end saw build 45$$ lol! So all about how much time you want to invest making one or how much you want to spend making one. But for a minarelli cast iron top end is not a good choice! Lots problems with those!
@@BuildBreakFix thanks. Which one produced more power and torque?
Nice video but I have to be honest I don't like 4 stroke on bikes they just look crazy to me and 2 stroke just sounds so much better 4strokes I'll just keep on go-cart lol
Now to be fair! I hate f'n 4 strokes on gokarts LOL All my gokarts I ever made had 150 to 200cc 2 strokes on them LOL Snow blower 2 stroke engines = Crazy fast on a gokart!
Man I buy those 100cc 69.8 CC engines off eBay for $135 I'll go get a bicycle from the thrift store twenty-five or thirty dollars I can build the whole thing for less than $200 I'll clean the engine up champer the ports I usually have pretty good luck
I love the yd100 100cc kits! I have had really good luck with those !
Question then so I probably should go with a new 50cc scooter??? I want a bike to get me from point A-B and goes around 30mph and is reliable and low maintenance. I was thinking motorized bike vs 50cc scooter and thought a conversation kit would be "cheaper" and lighter. I'm looking at a $100 2 stroke, or a $250 4 cylinder kit, or a BRAND NEW $900 50CC scooter complete from Amazon.
I also don't like to modify things and I'm handy enough but don't enjoy working on vehicles. I never realized the true final cost. For someone like me I'm thinking about maybe just going with a 50cc moped. I still wouldn't need a motorcycle license.
Is that the cheapest long term plug and play fix? Just for the city and some highway.
Damn 10k??
2 strokes? yeah! "Aluminum" Jug Minarelli can hit around 14 grand actually! rod bearings won't live long after 12k! Saw builds I heard can hit 12k! I never tried it lol! but have gotten one up to 11k before. Had one of the Minarelli builds up to 12k once. Practical nope! Greatly shortens life span yes! lol fun 105% lolz
Dope I just bout a tachometer for my bike but for some reason I was thinking dollars more RPM😂😂
What do you mean about a decided to knock it over I'd like to see me knock teeth out
Lol it was an ugly day! He touched my bike. It fell over... He said sorry and got into his Corvette. Then my keys dragged down his hood, fender door and trunk as he pulled out to drive off.
2 strokes are a better starter for most people there much simpler
yuppers! cheaper and turn key!
Great video 💯 I like the long reviews of the pros and cons , it was well measured. 👍😀
I prefer the 4stroke myself . I also prefer friction drive over chain or belt drive.
And direct drive over a clutch.
Thanks again for the video.
You know! I considered a friction drive off a cvt build. Been something I wanted to try for while now. Easy to stop and go. Plus it ramps up in speed as you go. Free wheel soon as you stop the gas. One day lol
Yeah 4 stroke 49cc huyusheng motors ain’t as reliable as a two stroke built up right. Just saying.
Well depends! They are not different then a 2 stroke motorized bicycle kits when you get one! If you don't do certain things to them out of the box they don't last long! Just like 2 strokes full slag and crap like that. #1 failure is valves rocker arms come loose. tearing stuff up Loctite fixes that out of the box never touch it again for long time.
@@BuildBreakFix I don’t see many videos for four stroke bicycle kits preventative modifications etc.
@@BuildBreakFix also if ya fuck up a 2t rebuild ain’t shit and good time to get some skf bearings in it better needle bearings and open hee up a tad