This Motorized Bike is ILLEGAL... But They Don't Care!
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2024
- Are motorized bicycles illegal? Today we talk about my experience with my 120cc motorized bike, and what I have done to ride it without getting in trouble.
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I see this video is getting a lot of attention! Glad to see you all are enjoying my motorized bike vids :) I just want to clear the air though by emphasizing that this bike is by no means legal, and the only way to make it semi-legal is to get a full motorcycle license and do some tweaks to register it as a motorcycle! I know many of you are asking questions about laws or other statements, but this is just meant to be a video encouraging everyone to be safe and still have fun! I don't ride on main roads or anywhere that would be of potential danger, it is just a fun hobby with a top speed of 38 mph for some fun neighborhood and mountain road rides! I would suggest the same to all of you who are into the hobby to make sure to do your research and be legal before doing regular riding, and not just trust the comments or this video for any legal advice! Happy riding!
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Have U wrecked it yet?
@@troykirkland3659 nope... still going strong. Not riding it as much anymore though, I've been more into mountain biking
how do you get your legs around that massive engine?
You'll be fine , just don't be screwing around on it on the streets, or racing around and you'll be ok. Avoid accidents at all costs, once that happens we're done eh ..lol
It Only takes a few assholes to screw it up for all of us. I gotta cple here now that's going cause problems for the rest of us
You have the right attitude. I was a policeman for 27 years. Rode motorcycles. Unless someone was being really crazy all they got from me was a smile. I had never written a biker a ticket. Keep up the good work
That warms my heart. The police seem to be good to me as a big sport bike rider in AZ. No speeding tickets, daily commuter for years. But I am looking to build one of these monstrosities for the fun of it. Also, I remember the good ol days when I started on 50cc scooters and mopeds in CT and never had insurance or anything. It felt off the books, free. Looking to get into that feeling again. Even though I have never received a speeding ticket on my 954rr or any other sport bike or cruiser I have owned, I always have that nagging wonder/worry. Just want to live and let live. And I love how these bikes are not about optimization and number crunching and being the best and going as fast and taking the turn just right... etc etc... its the fun of it. Crazy, for the price of my new sprockets/chain for my bike I just bought, I can build one of these motorized bicycles lol. Looking forward to it.
Thank You Sir. You make me feel proud to be a biker.
I always tell everyone, 95 percent of police officers are great people.. you are proving that.. thank you
So your not responsible for preventing an uninsured accident ? , i hope you contribute to the medical fees to any victim .
Nepotism is not good for society by and large...
Very good commentary. I was a police officer for 27 years. Never bothered anyone for something like this unless they were driving crazy. I have a motorized bike and am 74 years old. Still have hopes and dreams. Never give up.
Very inspiring! Thanks for sharing
I've actually started a three wheeler version using the frame from a Swinn adult trike for the base platform
Me and a buddy of mine are working on a project to turn a mobility scooter into a snowgo or snow mobile to you folks in the lower 48
all cops are pigs until proven otherwise. sorry if you werent, but most are on the take or have to be willfully ignorant of corruption to stay in the policeforce.
Title 18 usc 31(6) your bike is not illegal. unless your out there earning money from trade and commerce....?
It’s over 50cc but keeping the pedals of the bike functional is key also
I was building motorized bikes 54 years ago. Used a 3.5 or 5 hp side shaft lawnmower engine , doubled the rear rim and a big fan belt, had a blast.
That’s very interesting. So you had two rear wheels combined? Did you use two tires or one larger one?
I think the second rim/wheel was used as a belt pulley
Exactly!! I built them the same way the only problem was reaching down to use the throttle a friend had two fingers run thru the smaller engine pully doing just that. Ouch myself one time I rigged the choke pull to slow the engine thus the bike but imagine my surprise when approaching a busy four lane highway and pulling the choke it only had me going faster !!
The carb had worked itself loose at the engines jug .. I dodged a bullet that day. lol
It turned out that if you had a horizontal engine on say an edger..
you wouldn’t own it for long as the naborhood thugs would be riding the engine in no time.
This reminds me when I was down in Kentucky and this guy in his late 60s was on his own built bike that looked like what they used for track racing 100 years ago. It looked awesome and it was wicked fast.
With gasoline prices the way they are ...Im thinking of building one.
Looks to be fun to ride!
Yah it gets like 70-90 miles per gallon, sometimes more depending on how I drive it
Not reliable enough for reliable transportation
@@macmotorizedbike3834 That's definitely a reason I did the 4 stroke rather than the 2 stroke. The 2 stroke (especially the common kit) revs a lot higher, but comes at a cost of overheating and excessive wear on the engine for high speeds and long distances
Its totally worth it, phatmoto is pricey but you get 100 miles off less than a gallon of gas. Just make sure you tighten everything down, grease the clutch and recenter the wheels because they arent beaded in correctly most of the time. I got the fat tire one, its a freakin beast.
@@BenCarano and you have a genuine Honda GX engine, which are as close to bulletproof as you can get.
Sweet bike with a gnarly engine.
I rode an 80cc for 2 years in Louisiana.
I had butterfly bars and a banana seat with saddlebags from a Harley on it .
I got pulled over several times because my motorcycle didn't have a license plate . I had to point it out that it was a bicycle with an engine .
I wasn't riding stupid yet I had several stupid encounters . I even called 911 one time on the cops for detaining me and infringing on my 4th ammendment right .
I did 40 mile round trips from the county to the city . It was my only source of transportation due to an injury that disabled me . The thing saved my life yet I was happy to get a motorcycle again . A bicycle with an engine is not a motorcycle. I still loved it as it reminded me of how a motorcycle came to be.
I love your setup and wish you continued peace with minimal breakdowns.
In California you can ride one without a license or a revoked license I got a DUI not long ago that's why I bulit mine
@bencarano I pretty much had the same experience here in Tulsa Oklahoma. Years ago when my license was suspended, I had to check for an alternate way to get back-and-forth to work. It was starting to turn fall and winter, and there was no way in hell that I was gonna be walking 12 miles back-and-forth to work in the snow! That’s when I checked into making motorized bicycles. The first thing I did was to check to see what the state laws said about the legality of motorized bicycles. It turns out that in the state of Oklahoma, a bicycle With a motor of less than 80cc is considered a “motor assisted bicycle”! And according to state law, it did not require a driver’s license, did not require being tagged and registered, and was not required to be insured! And as long as I kept it under 35 miles an hour, no one would bother me about it! I couldn’t believe it, so I went around and asked at least 10 police officers, six sheriff deputies and two highway patrolman… And they all gave me the same answer that if I built this from a regular bike to these limits and specifications, it would be completely street legal, and so would I! In another post in your video, someone said that this would not be “reliable transportation”, But seeing that I got around with this bike for two years until my license was reinstated… I beg to differ! And the bonus of getting around on this bike 5 times a week was I was only spending a gallon a week on gas! So if I bought 10 gallons of gas, I was good for 2 1/2 months! I only had trouble with one cop in a neighboring town, she had ordered me to get my bike off the road and ride it on the sidewalk. When I refused, she called additional officers and her watch captain out to the scene, which I informed the watch captain before he decided to try to write me a ticket, to go back into his squad car and pull up on his computer for “motor assisted bicycle.” After he went to his car and looked up what I told him about, 10 minutes later he came back and Berated that officer for pulling me over in the first place and making a fuss. He further informed that officer that she was ordering me to violate the law by trying to make me ride my bike on the sidewalk when it could exceed 25 miles an hour. He then turned me and said: “Sir, I apologize for the inconvenience, and thank you for bringing this law to my attention… Please proceed on your way.” But even though my license is now reinstated, and I’m back to driving my car, I still have my bike and will never get rid of it! To those of you who are reading this out there that are still riding or thinking about starting to ride, Check your state motoring laws! if you know them well, it can and will only help you in the end! Trust me, I KNOW!
Enjoyed the video. In 1950 at the age of 14, I had a Whizzer-Schwinn motorized bicycle. The law didn't bother me either. I was pushing it more than riding it. That was a l o n g time ago. Thanks for the memories.
i love seeing elderly people on the internet ❤
My biggest concern for you is the front fork and the "speed" of the tires. I would weld some doublers at the stem-to-frame section and research moped, etc rated tires/wheels. You don't want a heat induced blowout, etc. Looks like A LOT of fun. Enjoy. Best of luck.
holy crap that thing sounds amazing. You got that lumpy lumpy idle and some throat to the exhaust note. Nicely done man!
Been riding non motorized well over 30 years, and the big law seems merely never to obstruct traffic. I do not want to create more work for any cop, and a lot of cops grew up in the motor culture, and some are still probably in it. The big problem with these things are kids who want to do break neck riding, which any good cop would want to shut down immediately. Insanity is always a problem to any society. Ride sane, ride safe; enjoy life. A million more laws to micro manage us will never make any of us even one little bit safer. That 120 Honda is a sweet piece of steel. You can not do better than Honda for small engines. The stability of their torque is the very best.
I've had a similar experience in Canada with my vehicle.
I keep it slow and sane. In 13 years I've been pulled over twice.
1st time local police got a call so he had to pull me over we just chatted and he was really interested in what I built.
2nd time was a new female officer who was checking out my lights and making sure I was wearing a helmet.
All good !
What CC Was Your Bike!!?
@@01timegone it's the one in my thumbnail. An electric velomobile
I have rode a motorized bicycle on every kind of road in America highways , interstates, bike paths ,board walks ,and sidewalks. The only time I got pulled over, the cop asked why the motor was so small. 😒 hahaha
I rode a motorized bicycle across America this year , Florida to California and back.
Wow! Quite the traveler, nice!
Everything you described in your video is the exact same reason why I've never been pulled over while living in the state of Arkansas.
Same here in Oregon after around 5 years of riding motorized bikes. My license is suspended for some stupid shit that I did when I was younger but been riding motorized bikes to and from work and all daily things. Put over 3,000 miles on my current build and have never been pulled over.
I think exactly the same with my 80cc bike but I do worry about some idiot jumping in front of me and what would happen... I always drive slow and safe
Nice bike 👍 Arizona is similar. 80cc or less, only a DL is required. Put a headlight and tail light, don't speed and your fine.
That is a pretty well defined "junk groove" on the seat. Looks comfy :)
Awesome build, dude! I'm 15 and just "finished" (but will probably keep working on it) my 212cc mini bike build, and it's a blast the run around the neighborhood! I've found that as long as you "act normal," when a cop passes, you're usually fine, and people only get angry when I try to go on sidewalks (understandably so). It's awesome you were able to fit that huge engine on such a skinny bike!
Edit: Thought it would be fun to mention that I also live in Colorado!😂
Ok, Kermit!
10 years ago it was a huge deal. I got pulled over a bunch of times and even got my license suspended. They told me to walk it and if they catch me again they'd take it. I quit the hobby and just got back into it recently. I live across the street from my police department and I never had a problem now. Times have really changed
I think it's because of the Popularity of EBikes. Most Cities are actually having Rent-A Ebike/Scooters that top out at 30mph.
I don't think they care as long as it isn't Loud ASF and you obey traffic laws
They really don’t no more. In my area they actually trying to push e-bikes and building infrastructure and trails for them.
At least IC Engined mini bike/cycle-moped has a motor that makes enough noise to he heard coming at a distance, by people of all ages, unlike most quiet electric scooters and e-bikes.
@@LordDirus007 Most e-bikes are set to 20mph not 30 because so many states have laws for over 49cc engines and/or 20mph for unassisted bikes.
@@SilvaDreams Pretty much every e-bike that I'm looking at go about 28 mi top speed
Thanks for the information 👍
Nice video man, I ride a Coleman Mini bike with a 196cc around town here in northern CA, and no issues either , just following the same set of guidelines
i been on this hobby for 3 years. as long as you obey traffic laws, wear your helmet, and have some common sense than they won't bother you.
I've been riding motorized bikes / mopeds / motorcycles never had a problem I had a street legal Baja Warrior 212 she was badass
You're completely right man as long as you obey the law technically there is nothing they can do.
I daily drive mine and they will stop me but usually say its cool and to be safe.
@@benjaminlutz5075 And as long as you're obeying the law, police aren't going to "want" or "try" to pull you over for something. However, honestly, my main concern when I go by a cop is that they will see that I don't have a rear license plate, which is NOT required, and so they might pull me over in the false pretense that I'm on a motorcycle. But if they really have a good look at me, I'm obviously on a beach cruiser bicycle with an engine LOL. But maybe they just happen to see the tail end of me go past, and they think to themselves "they don't have a license plate/light". That's really my ONLY concern about getting pulled over.
EDIT: When I do see police, I make extra intention to go below the speed limit AND fake pedal (I pedal and go through the motions but don't actually carry a load LOL). That way they will immediately see that I'm a cyclist regardless of if they notice the engine.
@@benjaminlutz5075 very true it's not illegal to ride a motorized bike as long as you follow the traffic laws and don't act a fool you'll be good I had mini bikes set up street legal never had a problem
Colorado's pretty chill if you do what you said dress safe and ride safe, me and my bud the other day went on a ride from commerce city to golden and back on our 66cc motorized bikes on the bike trails/roads and ran into no issues.
wow..great commentary..i have rebuilt a Phatmoto junker and was concerned about legal problems.. I live in a seasonal tourist area, with biking, canoeing,hiking,and multitudes of camping spaces along the clarion river.... But you are correct in your comments about Law Enforcement...if you are being
an adult you will not be bothered...be courtious ,be kind and basically do what your supposed to do while driving..and they will not bother you....basically be the adult your supposed to be....
1st video of this type and I watch many a diff sorts. I've been riding my hybrid mntn bike with a CDHpower 80cc modified and haven't been bothered by the police either. However, I do find that great sidewalks and bicycle marked lanes are desired by both other traffic and the poe poe.. In the past and being an old dirt track racer, had made fun of moped riders etc etc.., and felt karma should come my way. As you stated in the video, people think it's awesome :) . Many ppl adore it, give me thumbs up, is a conversation piece, ask me if I had it built and if I built it myself.
Although I'm expecting to gain my gut back, I'm having a blast with it. I'mreally thinking of making it a side job hobby. Because I'll likely sell it for all I have into both kits, buy a new cruiser, wash rinse, repeat.
Do you think your silencer is enough to go unnoticed?
I am looking for a silencer, but I want a very quiet one💫
On a totally different subject,. I REALLY miss those mountains!! Grew up trying to get lost in them
Hey I'm running 212cc and twice I got pulled over they told me to ride on sidewalk the first time the second time the cop said I had proper turn signals front and rear and headlights running light low beam and high beam and two 130 dB horns so because of that compliance they gave me slack even though I'm going 55mph.I like your build .I have a u tube channel gas bike rider.cheers .
Thanks for the ride.
Where can I buy that clutch ?
Very cool nice work !
Nice ride man. Been stopped 3 times. They talked about towing it if I didn’t ride slower or make it quieter. Police let me go each time. Said it was awesome but it was passed noise ordinance.
I got a 2 stroke version if u keep it stock it’s no louder than someone using a weed trimmer full power. But depends where u ride what time ur riding and some people are just haters.
noise ordinance??? hahaha.... meanwhile in alabama i can roll down the street in an open headers v8.... yeah you wouldnt get pulled over here at all unless you were revving it with no muffler at 3 am next to houses.... god bless my beautiful dixie sweet home alabama
@@TheBabyDerp I lived in Alabama and can confirm this is true. It is also true here in Florida.
@@fivespeed3026 yep ive taken em to florida as well with no issues.
You are correct - do not speed ! I saw your muffler and it is not a real muffler it is a SPARK arrestor mostly . LENGTH your exhaust pipe from where it is now with a steel flex pipe . Those flex pipes are GREAT for eating noise and lowering the D.B. noise level. I lost the muffler off of an old van of mine in the city on a Friday after work and had a2 hour drive to get home. Stopped at a muffler shop and they were booked up with no time. So I bought about 10 feet of flex pipe and 4 or 5 muffler clamps . Clamped the flex pipe to my broken exhaust pipe put a couple more clamps a few feet apart from each other and hung the flex pipe from the frame and drove home... I was so surprised on how quite it made the van from no muffler to a long flex pipe... I'm 67 now and was about 19 when I did this.... I was so glad to see you have some kind of disk break on your bike. Your bike is heavier and faster now and needs to stop FASTER than before.
Great video young man . Keep up the good work.
@@0331machinegunman I only meant that as far as muffling noise it is mainly a spark arrestor and not much of a sound deadening sound muffler.
what i like is that the engine doesn't have how many cc it is and that's good because technically your only allowed a 49cc and you have to be 16 to ride a bike with an engine but you don't have to have a license
Yep, all depends on the location
Yeah, i had a 2 stroke, id go 50 on it on public roads, only thing i got pulled over for was rear lights, they didnt question how many cc’s it had, they literally told me as long as it has pedals, its not a motorcycle. Never had any problems. Ive been thinking hard, just got a phatmoto, 25mph is good for me, but ive been thinking of saving up for another frame with a tank built in, and just getting another 2 stroke even tho i hated the last one i had. I’ll probably get it from bikeberry again, but not get any upgraded compression heads because that didnt work last time.
That's because you have to "deck" the head before you install it !!!
If you don't,,, your *compression* will be NON-EXISTENT and your power will be weak ...
This gas tank is beautiful. I JUST found you so I know nothing about you, yet. I will watch now...OK, It was a good video and I will look into this.
I live in Colorado too, and my first vehicle to get to work was an 80cc that I put on my mountain bike. It was all fun and games until I hit some ice and crashed. It sent me off the road and I was headed for what I thought was a tall grassy bush. Turns out there was a fire hydrant behind the bush. I Flipped, bend my front rim to $#!+, it was a good time man.
That's fucked 😂 u had me when u realized it wasn't just a bush 😂 jeeeez
@@memesyandhorrorshorts Yeah the bush is what got me too 😂🤟💀
Nice bike. Probably the best one I have seen so far. Good job 👍 good choice for the motor size, just right!
I've been stopped just because they were curious as to what it actually was.
They found it neat and asked that I obey traffic signs and that was it.
Yeah. I had a moped in high school. It would run 52 mph on flat ground and I would do over 60 down the bridge to the beach. It had a tm 75 front end and a small back sprocket. I got a intake and carb and put a Jawa 50 top end on it. Had to make a spacer. It ran like a chain saw. It screamed. I came home one day and it was gone. My mom didn’t like me. She gave it away. She did things like that to me because she knew it would bother my dad.
@@lookronjon Wow, what a *redacted swear word because of RUclips*
you need to get lights bro even if its just a head and tail light . they will pull you over for that alone . also if its a bike it needs to have all the reflectors front back and sides . pedal reflectors will help to to show its a bicycle . man you dont want to give them any reason to mess with you .
Yep! It’s got reflectors and I have a rechargeable head lamp and tail light but definitely thinking of installing permanent ones that run off the engine
@@BenCarano ok awesome bike by the way .
@@diydarkmatter thanks!!
@@BenCarano welcome bro
Looks like real fun bro. I ride bicycles but sometimes riding one of these is a blast, how much it cost to build one like this and where you source you parts? Well everything except the bike thx.
nice love it! have a 80cc 2 stroke. i go most places with it!
before the motor on my bike blew i never got pulled over. i rode that thing quite a bit too and passed cops probably hundreds of times. people all over my town also build motorized bikes so they're pretty common around here. the only real horror story i've heard is some kid going to jail for some reason. i've only heard one side of the story, but im fairly confident that he looked young so they pulled him over and because he didn't have a drivers license he ran.
In Michigan,you can get a Moped Permit at 15yo after the parents sign for it.Many kids have part time work and to travel to and from there safely would be the common sense rules.Most people who abuse the bikes are well above 'legal'but not above dumb.
@@bryduhbikeguy honestly i think the legality of it is determined by the how much money they make by forcing you to pay for an mc license and courses, registration, plates, and insurance rather then safety.
i can probably pedal just as fast as that motor, i just can't sustain speed like a motor can.
typical american government making you pay for convenience while telling you they're doing you a favor. if they cared about stopping morons from getting on the roads it wouldn't be so easy to get a drivers license.
I've seen a cop cam video on RUclips of a kid on a 2stroke motorized bicycle run from the cops. It looked like some thing off of The Trailer Park Boys!!! LoL🎉
Tip to start a Honda gx first put choke to full position then pull the start rope and as soon as it starts take it if choke never use partial choke and never use it for more than a few seconds if it needs more choke it either needs the carb cleaned or jetted to suit the exhaust if it doesn’t start first pull then there’s something wrong!
Be glad you live where you live Bro, in denmark this is considdered as a Moped or a Scooter, and it requrires a licence to drive (if under 18 yro), and it have to be rgistered (Registation plate).
Cheap silver spray paint works well on exhausts. The chrome on my CB 750 exhaust is deteriorating except for the welds that I sprayed silver.
ayy I live on these streets! You ever take it up the canyon or just in town? That epic you actually went around and got real answers about this!
Haven't gone up canyon yet haha! Cool to meet another Colorado friend!
Great job bro!
Do you. (Smile)
Stay safe and healthy.
Peace
Cool! Looks Good!
I live in Indiana they classify a minibike as a motor-driven what we have is an MDC certification if you have a ID anything under 50 cc added Coleman mini bike made it legal to drive on the road but it's a 21cc you can't get them registered it depends what state you live in in when they classify a😊
About a year ago looked into owning a motorized bike, E-bike or G-bike.
Here in California, I think the strictest state on environment, if it's a G-bike, it has to be registered and inspected at the DMV.
G-bike's limitation, it has to be 4 cycles, max speed 25 or 30 mph, not sure.
E-bikes free to go, no registration or inspection, but max speed is the same, 750 watts max.
Helmet must be worn and no riding on side walks.
Use to be 49 cc max size, but they have done with it!
Not sure if it's just me but the way your bike seems to handle by watching the video it seems like it's top heavy and I'm sure that it is with the added weight of the engine and torque converter up in the frame like it is but do you notice a big difference in the handling like it is? Also, I really like the torque converter idea, do you feel like the gearing is good where it's at or do you feel like it could use more low end torque or top end speed? There's supposed to be a way to adjust those torque converters to deliver a bit more torque or a bit more speed but I've never done it before, there's videos about it. I really like this idea though. 👍
That really is a lovely thing, I hope you're pleased with it and proud of it.
Just be careful when you're out riding. I've been riding my motorized bike for 1 and a half year like 2 or 3 times a day sometimes. I've passed many cops like you and had no problems, never been stopped. About a week ago I was just out enjoying a joy ride when I got pulled over by a cop and he told me that I can't legally ride my bike on the public roads. I explained to him that it was a bicycle, with pedals and a motor just for assistance but he wasn't buying it. He gave me a ticket for "Motorized Bicycle: Improper use" Whatever that means and now I have a court date, I have to see a judge. Just has become a real pain now because I was not doing anything wrong, Just a big bad bully of a cop wants to ruin your day, believe me he can if he wants and thats exactly what happened. I was told if im seen riding it around again they will confiscate it.
Sheeesh yah! Thanks for sharing your story, so sorry that happened! There are definitely risks that come with it. I also focus on trying not to ride at the end of each month, when the cops are hungry for tickets. They have a minimum amount that they have to give out each month to make their salary, and if that is not met then they will pull people over much more strictly than they would in the beginning of the month
Here in canada, u can drive a scooter without license if below 50 km/hr, put your bike below 50 and u have no problem
You have the right to appeal for about another $80 and go to circuit court. And circuit court they look at things more serious. I always ride my motorized bike slow on the sidewalks no helmet but I only go 10 mph or under with the engine on. Most of the time my engine is off and I'm pedaling getting a workout. But I always keep the pedals turning Wave to people and if someone's on the sidewalk. I move way over move off the sidewalk until The pedestrian is gone. I don't ride in traffic because I'm a motorized bicycle and riding in traffic is very dangerous. If I see police I always cut my engine off. And going across streets if police are around I cut the engine off. Or if traffic is busy I cut the engine off and walk the bike across. I ride on trails and sidewalks. I have since the phat moto bike come out in the beginning of 2019. I'm sure of all the miles I've rode on mine if I was wide open. I'm sure they would say something.
I bet the cop didn't show up.
As said, the law is unclear and he wouldn't want to testify unless he was 100% in the right.
What ended up happening in court?
Love your bike you made awesome
love it man ride out G
Many places you don’t even need a license as long as it has working peddles. 😊 Nice build. Where did the engine come from? Thanks
5:17 to 5:24 You, sir, just totally described in a nutshell why we motorized bicyclists ride motorized bikes 🤘
6:22 "it totally does look like a handmade sort of thing" you hit the nail on the head again, my friend 😂
7:26 passes mere "regular", non-motorized bicyclist
I've gotten pulled over ONCE. He then walked up and was like "oh, it's a motorized bicycle". In Illinois, you are required to be at least 16 years old to ride a motorized bicycle, but you're not required to have a driver's license, let alone have one on you. I didn't have any identification. The officer asked if I could give him my name, address, and social security number, which I did, [keep in mind, the ONLY thing he's doing at this point is checking with dispatch to see if I have any warrants for my arrest, which I didn't]. He said he pulled me over because he thought I was riding on the sidewalk [I wasn't; I was riding on the edge of the paved road] and also because I didn't have a tail light [this was at night]. Okay, true, I did NOT have a working tail light. I had one, and lo and behold, the battery was dying and it was just BARELY flickering if you looked at it closely. He saw that I obviously just needed to change the battery, and he let me go.
Really, for a motorized bicyclist all it comes down to is this and you'll be fine: don't speed, have working headlights [even in the daytime JUST IN CASE they confuse you for a moped or motorcycle etc], have a tail light, stop at stop signs (or just roll through it and fake pedal ;) ), and all around just obey traffic laws. Oh, also wear a helmet, which may or may not be law (not in Illinois, though motorcyclists must wear protective glasses or face shield by law yet no helmet required] but wearing a helmet is safer anyway (I have a motorcycle helmet that exceeds DOT standards, and I love it actually). Police aren't going to pull you over unless you're doing something to give them a reason to pull you over.
Sorry for a morbid comment, but it's always a good idea to carry a driver's license GOD FORBID you wreck or even die and a first responder is trying to identify your body. I'm just saying. It's also a good reason to wear a green reflective safety vest as I do (among other good reasons for personal safety and so that other drivers will hopefully see you which often they still don't because they're distracted on their phones unfortunately). Again.. HEAVEN FORBID that I crash and I'm laying in a ditch unconscious, but if I have a green reflective vest on then a passerby is much more likely to see my body and call 911. SAFETY FIRST!!! I see signs in people's front yards, "start seeing motorcycles", but as any motorized cyclist, we should make it our priority TO BE SEEN!!! Also BEING HEARD with a loud exhaust is good, but only during the daytime, because you should be courteous of people sleeping as well.
@@adamcolbertmusic Good points.I have a vest I put on near dusk,or if I'm going to be riding with traffic for extended times.The 1st car may see you,but being behind and near the curb doesn't mean the 2nd can.I always carry ID too.I've been knocked down by someone not looking right before turning,and pinned against a building by someone that confused pedals.Both times pedaling down a sidewalk.When riding a moped,had my shoulder clipped by a mirror from an Idiot riding the bumper of the car in front of them and didn't see me.(Barely missed a sign with my Face when crashing.)Stuff happens no matter how careful YOU are.
I’ve built several of these high class motorized bikes. You’ve got a well designed and built machine. If you’ve got the original Honda muffler, you might to reconfigure the input on muffler and have a nice quiet engine.
Need the noise-wake drivers up!
"They" might not bother you. I did some crazy stuff as a teen, some time ago now. What did I have to lose?! As time goes on and I became an adult I had a lot more to lose. Any ticket you get is driving an unregistered, non compliant motor vehicle. Points go on your driver's license. That costs. Riding in a bike lane is riding a motor vehicle in the bike lane, same charge as riding a Harley in the bike lane. If by chance you hit someone you will get sued for everything you have. Heaven forbid you hurt someone, you could be paying for that for years. It would be classed a crime that can carry a jail sentence. Accidents happen everyday to people doing everything right. And the police can confiscate the bike. It can't be registered because it's a non DOT complaint motor vehicle. Without DOT certification, you can't get a VIN, without a VIN you can't register the vehicle. Legal mopeds are DOT certified. Not trying to be a downer, I do think it's cool, but given my position I am correct in everything I'm telling you. You and your viewers should have all the facts.
Best of luck.
Definitely! That is all very correct, and it is by no doubt true that owning and riding one comes at a risk. I try to be as careful as I can of course!
Your right but Im a disabled vet...cant get blood from a turnip, or a broke vet! Lol 👍🏾
It's legal in some states like Kansas and is quite a few they are legal upto 49cc
fully legal in my state as long as you have a motorcycle license headlight taillight an brake light
Man ACAB
What's up Ben . I had got some advice from you a while back and you know that damn motor is still giving me trouble the piston rings finally busted and it wasn't 3 months old. I don't think I had 200 miles on it so I ordered BBR tuning 80cc. I feel like a little kid and it's 4 days till Christmas LOL
😂 yah! My ring blew like 5 months in haha, you got this though! That’s the fun of it is the creative process
Oh! Well, this is wonderful news to me, I’ve wondered about just this, cause I have a homemade bike, at 50 cc, with a craftsman trimmer, and didn’t know how to navigate the legality of riding it on the road.
Call Your Local DMV Or Go Online! It's Called An Under Powered Vehicle!!
I live in Mexico and there are several states where 4-stroke motorized bicycles are prohibited and others where 2-strokes are already being prohibited and electric ones are being included in the list. restriction
Where I live, mopeds used to classified as bicycles, so long as they were limited to 49cc and 20 mph. Then, i don't know if the speed restriction was relaxed, but kids started riding mopeds and scooters capable of 35mph or more, and having bad accidents. So several years ago, they pssed a moped registration law that requires title, tags and helmets, but strangely no insurance! However, there is an exemption for mopeds that are limited to 25 mph. I have a couple of the old-shool, below 25 mph mopeds. I guess if I start riding them, I'll need to carry a copy of the regulations on me!
Good ride and glad the cops have left you alone
Best Ben
so nice , !!! and fenders im looking for for mine exactly the same
You have a great attitude to riding, from Australia.
I put a 80cc 2 stroke on my bike. I bought it to ride it to work on nice days because at the time I didn't have a vehicle. I got the proper gear and lights on it. The only thing I get is confused looks when I ride past people. I haven't done bigger engines yet. But I eventually might.
Does it have the stock bicycle brakes or did you replace them with motorcycle brakes?
gray zones are awesome. for example, here in Ontario if you have a RV you can park anywhere and put a piece of lawn furniture outside and it counts as a house instead and you can drink and smoke pot and there is nothing they can do about it.
Motorbikes here in Florida in some areas it's pretty LAX in some areas they're pretty hard on you basically what I gathered here in Florida is your bike has to be legally licensed and tagged with a registration to be street legal if it has any motorization whether it has pedals or not and that's usually a loophole if it still has pedals but basically the same applies for trying to put a dirt bike on the street it has to have a front and rear light the rear light has to be brake activated meaning when you hit the brake the brake light comes on but the brake light has to be on at all times the front light has to have a high and low beam you have to have a horn and at least one rear view mirror and you also have to have turn signals but basically that's another loophole because you can use your arms for turn signals like most people do anyway but that's here in Florida
Why not use a larger scooter muffler? That one you have looks rather primitive like from a lawn mower. I also used to put about an 8-10 inch length of high temp silicone tubing from auto parts store on the outlet from my go-ped exhaust's muffler. It greatly reduced the harsh exhaust note especially at low RPM's. Something about the silicone rubber baffled the sound waves, I guess. A piece of bailing wire kept the tubing from flopping around much.
For Kansas: The engine displacement is limited to 130cc, and not produce more than 3.5 bhp. Or exceed 30 miles per hour, or travel on streets where the posted speed limit exceeds 40 mph.
Arent the 4 strokes a lot more quiet than the little 2 strokes? I liked the video btw , thank you 🙂
They are the same i suppose but the 4-stroke is just a lower pitch rumble so it sounds quieter most of the time
Are there any 4 strokes with electric start? I think those whizzed motors you have to pedal
These things are all the rave over here in Indo. They use a regular 150cc motorcycle engine in an oversize tube bicycle frame with phat tires
..but no peddles
Drive with pride and a sense of worth have respect for everyone else on the road and happy sailing!
Regulatory grey areas are wonderful!
My build is almost identical but I chose a Predator Hemi. Same frame color and seat.
The back pegs are awesome, your buddy can hang on for the ride awesome
I have a second seat that mounts back in those too for that
@@BenCarano truly innovated awesome video
@@mikedisher30 glad you are inspired!
You should be insured it's for your protection
and others. But yes it's at your local DMV at
if you need and for what size cc motor rather
to consider having a motorcycle license.
But say you convert a car to a kit you bought on line you have to register the kit car cause it's no longer what it was b4 you started. So this should apply to your bike
having a motor it wasn't built at the factory
you built it .
In most States and different insurance companies. if you can't license it you can't insure it. However insurance is usually very cheap I pay $15 a year for my scooter.
here in california you'd get a ticket for sure. your fine as long as you're under 80cc here. i have been thing about making a motor scooter with an 80cc motor and a small TAV and messing with gearing for going up hills.
Built 3 different bikes between 2014 and 2017 . Still have them and they still run. The problem is there all illegal where I live all are to fast ,or to loud. Also must have lights and a registration . Seems to me there being regulated because they do get good gas mileage one of mine got 110 miles to gallon at 35 mph. Good luck and be safe .
God for it
I'm still rolling with the 2 strokes and mine runs right at 50 mph and I live in the Dallas-Fort Worth area in Texas in the cops around here just smile at me or give me a thumbs up. It just seems like everyone just thinks it's cool they've never pulled me over I've got quite a bit going on with mine with the giant carb and Reed setup
Yep if you live in Texas you can definitely get away with a lot in peace these days! Nice setup! Yah my 120 is entirely stock but maybe I'll mod it someday just to have fun. it has plenty of power as is though lol
Me too, stroke, MD/PA line, both states. Good video man!
Not sure about your state, my state that I’m in now , Indiana, it’s considered a mdc - motor driven cycle, law is stay to the right, & stay under 35 mph. & yes have an id is a must. License or/& id is needed. Yes with the gas prices going up, these are great for commuting, & getting around a to b. Love the video & great attitude.
I built something like this out of an old schwinn when I was in high school that was before colorado implemented the law that said you had to have a licence to ride 50cc or less about halfway through 10th grade they changed the law and the cops at columbine told me I couldn't ride it anymore but hinted that if they didnt see me on it at the school it wouldnt be an issue so I started locking it up in a hidden spot at the park behind the school haha for the most part if your not a knuckle head they didnt care but I wouldnt try to get away with that kind of thing these days but maybe I should pull that old thing out of the weeds and throw one of the predator 212s I have laying around into it might be a fun way to recapture some of the good old days haha
In Porter on Houstons northside I've been commuting to Humble which is about 10 miles south of Porter and back for 2 years. IVE Been noticed by cops twice after dark. Rechargeable head and tail lights and my actual head lamp is 800 lumens and I do alright. Never be with out lights and never trust that drivers see you. I ve been hit 3 times but no sustained injuries.. thank God
definitely an issue of drivers seeing you for sure! I haven't been hit but I did slightly increase the loudness of my muffler just so they would hear me do to a few close encounters
@@BenCarano yeah the other riders I've met told me also to be a little loud.
@@kevinferrier5639 for sure, I am still plenty quiet enough to be under the regulation and respectful of neighbors, but just a little something to make it hearable cuz it's pretty dang quiet with the default muffler
@@BenCarano they always see you but they don't give damn then they whine they didn't see you to get out of it.
We allow golf carts in town also…. We do register with (city) and put a number on golf cart. But no fees or DMV.
I have a 212 predator on my bike with a torque converter I've had one cop do a circle around my bike shaking his head because he couldn't believe how big of a motor was inside the frame I use it as my daily Rider and I just recently made a limo scooter 🛴 7 ft long
I m glad you got lots of views, the motorized bike people I see are riding at night with black clothes and no lights, your sensible advice has to help.
UK laws work kinda different, and the easiest way to think about it is that any motorised vehicle is a tank, unless it can drop down a catagory and then your a articulated wagon, then a 12t van, then a 7, 5, 3.5, car. large motorcycle, small motorcycle, moped, low power moped, bicycle. as for electric they go in the catagorys above but with an E in the name...
what your riding would end up in maybe in the moped class, which requires a licence, insurance, dot/e approved lighting, 'road tax', a yearly safety test, real motorcycle helmet, real motorcycle tyres, and with 2-6 points per offence you would soon hit 12 and have your licence get suspended for a year. and then any future insurance company would smile when you try to insure something...
i'm just comeing to the end of building an e-moped as i'm in a gridlocked 30mph city so it made sense to build a slower bike as the insurance and tax will be cheaper overall. but something bigger is in planning.....
That things gotta be a monster with a honda 196 and the cvt!
My minibike with similar setup runs 64mph in the 1/8 at the drag strip! It's also a wheelie machine. I bet this thing is too.
Heck yah, I run all stock but with mods it’ll have crazy power
@@BenCarano I can barely ride my stuff here in the suburbs of Detroit. In my city I get pulled over all the time. Usually I'm close to home and just push it home. People more brave than me ride their mini's all over town. I don't have a license so I play safe.
Got into building predator 212 stuff and a bunch of minibikes about 4 years ago. Been hooked ever since! Love modifying these engines, they respond so well.
The bicycle frame ride is my next project. Yours came out awesome!
@@williamstamper442 for sure! Even if you can’t ride it all the time creativity is always worth it!!
@@williamstamper442 Is there any mods you can do to a 79cc HB engine?
@@Rononeil82 I'm not familiar with that engine so much but there is always mods you can do. Port work, even by hand at home, then shave the head for compression, both are always proven winners to increase power. Let me look into that engine and see what's out there. For 4 strokes, any engine out there needs a decent carb, sized for the application, and if a mikuni will fit, it's hard to go wrong with that! Mikuni carbs are such a worthy upgrade whenever you can get one the right size for the application and get it to bolt on, usually with a tubular intake manifold flanged to fit the carb on one end and the intake flange size on the other. Then of course a custom exhaust header is a must. Most people can and will fab one up using stuff they have laying around, if a header is not readily available for that model engine. These one holers usually want a 1inch pipe at least on the primary side meaning close to the head. Diameter of pipe in the ballpark won't really matter much, just move the rpm peak power range around a little bit. I'd go smaller rather than larger when it comes to making a custom 4 stroke header until further testing is done.
The next big thing is camshaft. If aftermarket is available then go for it. Engines designed for steady state speed and load such as a commercial power washer application will always leave a bunch of higher rpm power on the table. Therefore an aftermarket camshaft should be part of your performance build, if available. Next is valvesprings and supporting valvetrain hardware if/when one chooses to un-govern a 4 stroke engine and spin it to the moon. Gotta have at least enough valvespring to keep 'em from floating.
So far everything I've mentioned is how to make a honda clone make much more power yet I didnt mention flywheels and connecting rods as part of the equation to making the engine live at higher rpms without throwing a rod or exploding a cast iron flywheel. These items need to be upgraded over stock if available. If nobody makes anything then the engine in question may never be destined to be a high rpm screamer with over double the horsepower and torque. If that is the case it's limited what one can do. Still works always however to increase airflow and support that on the fuel side with a capable carb. Non billet internals pretty much eliminate the potential for high rpm power, but one may push the envelope according to their desire and balls for having a potential bomb between ones legs.
I said alot, probably way too much. Just hope I gave someone a pic overall about the hopping up of pretty much any 4 stroke engine
I've seen uglier pull start bikes going around in the middle of the night. One had a wedged pipe for foot rests. Or was it a strip of metal? Regardless, I have no idea how it ran?
Would using a larger engine that is like 90cc that looks small pass the test fella ???
Here in Florida you have to pay a fee to get a VIN for it, then a fee to get it Titled, Insurance, then a BIG fee to get a Plate for it, and when it's all said and done you could have probably built 4 bikes with what you would've spent to do all that. Mine's a YD100 powered Gasbike, and to this point I haven't been bothered by anybody in an Official status, so I just wave when I see a Sheriff, and they usually wave back...
You don’t need insurance, but it has to be under 49cc.
I really need a similar setup s am heavy and hills are steep plus have heart failure - I'm familiar with knockoff Comet torque converters. What specifically is your rear wheel solution and sprocket setup? - would it fit ok in some "fixie" steel frame bike's rear yoke?
The rear wheel is all custom made. You can check out my 80cc 2 stroke build series to see what I did there
@@BenCarano Thanks - sure will. IF such a solution were available for sale I'd think they'd sell like the proverbial "hotcakes" . Does your clutch use an adapter sleeve tor a 5.8" shaft ?
@@karlsonkab51 my clutch fits over the 3/4” shaft