I doubt they are even going to pull the bolts out to check them properly. Just want people to sign off on inspections. If there was welding debris more than likely fucked both threads so no worth messing with it
@@T_O_Negative If the dealer mechanic does not see any weld splatter on the end plate around the nuts you can bet the most they will do is check the nuts with a torque wrench and the truck will be in and out in 10 minutes. If they find welding splatter on the surface around the four nuts they will have to remove the nuts and see of there is weld splatter under the nuts, if there is the likely remedy will be they lightly grind off or file off the weld splatter under the nuts and reinstall new nuts to the correct torque spec and I bet use loctite as well.
@@mustangecoboosthpp3869 That is if they even do it? Depends of the Tec working on your car. They may make it worse! IMO... avoid taking it there and just do it yourself.
Thank you for video. Ive seen 2-3 & yours is Spot On showing where its at. All other videos just bashing Toyota. No worries by me. I will check the tightness as well. Its odd that not 1 email or call from Toyota or Dealership tho.... I did get a service due email & a email with what dealership has for new vehicles lmao. I bought my truck 7 months ago. Now i get listings for every car on lot. Have a wonderful day
Depends on the year and build date of your Tacoma, if you have a Tacoma that was built before 5/22 then you are not part of the recall. The recall runs from 5/22 though late 2023 models of the Tacoma.
Anything to help prevent me from taking my truck to the dealership is appreciated (the one near me has a horrible service department), so thank you for pointing out the 8 nuts I need to confirm are tight and tighten any that are not. I will check periodically in the future as well.
The best thing for your vehicle is to NOT take it to a dealership unless you have no other choice. I do all the maintenance myself. The last experience for me years ago at a dealership maintenance shop was awful.
If there is no weld splatter on the surface of the end plate around the four nuts on each side and the nuts are flush against the end plate and they are not loose you are ok, not every Tacoma has the issue but Toyota and the axle manufacture do not know how many of the axle tube end plates were affected. I have a copy of the rear axle assembly page and it shows the correct torque specs to be 36Nm/27 ft lbs of torque. If you convert Nm to ft lbs you will find that 36Nm is 27 ft lbs of torque and vise versa.
Just bought a 2021 tacoma. I feel like I just doged a bullet haha. Recently saw a couple of your videos for the first time. I really like the voiceover quality. No need to second guess what you are saying. Subbed!
How I see it is that it's not just the bolts that I'm worried about. The fact that this happened tells me that these trucks didn't have as much detail oriented work done to them as much as previous years. @@270eman
@@COMM_DUMPST3R I disagree. There are always recalls on new vehicles. When you manufacture millions of vehicles every year there are bound to be problems. Its a simple check and tighten. I already have 9k miles on my 23. No problems.
Thanks man. Just got my 5th Gen 3 Tacoma and it was a November 2023 build. Likely one of the last 2023's off the line. Then I got this letter a week later. Haha.
I have a 2023 Tacoma with a build date of 5/23 and there is no weld splatter around the surface of the end plates and the nuts are flush and tight. Some have found the end plate has weld splatter on that end plate around the nuts, those are the ones that need to pay special attention to this, it is the weld splatter that keeps the nut from seating flush with the end plate when it is tightened and those are the ones that can loosen and fall off.
@@mustangecoboosthpp3869 I am not too worried about it. I am going to take it in on my first service. I am more annoyed with this rattling noise under my dash that I cannot find. Haha.
I’m a 23 taco owner another thing that needs to be checked is the U bolts I found mine extremely loose and a friend of mine found his 23 loose also I tightened them back Up to 73lbs 👍
I have a 2023, and I checked those retaining nuts myself a couple of days ago. They were all tight. I'll have Toyota check it when I get my notice. I'm not worried, I don't think my truck was affected.
I have a 22 Taco I bought new in 3/22. No recall letter yet, and the truck has been excellent so far. Saw a bunch of posts from owners about getting them "tuned". Not sure what that's about. Why mess with something that isn't broken?
It's not necessarily broken, but anytime there's a case of an accident as a result of a manufacturing defect, even if it's one or two. The manufacturer will jump on top of it to maintain customer trust. That's the case here. I have never seen one separate or come loose.
Tuned refers to reprogramming the ECU with an aftermarket program, I don't like the tunes for the Tacoma because so far none of them allow you to do the programming with a hand held device, you have to go to the tuner and they program the ECU, that means if you have to go to the dealer for something you have to go back to the tuner to have them reinstall the stock programming or you risk voiding your powertrain warranty. If you are out of warranty then a tune might be a worth while thing to do but while in warranty just understand you risk voiding the powertrain warranty. I have the 2.7 four cylinder, throttle lag is the biggest complaint of all Tacomas four or six cylinder, I purchased a Banks Power Pedal Monster for my 2.7 four cylinder Tacoma and it is a night and day difference. The Pedal Monster is not a tune, its sole job is to eliminate the throttle lag when to take off from a stop. I recommend the Banks Power Pedal Monster over all the others because Banks Power has built in multiple safe guards including going back to stock programming when you are in reverse and if something goes wrong it again reverts back to stock programming so you do not end up with what is called dead pedal, that is when the accelerator pedal becomes none responsive. Banks Power is the only one who has safe guards to avoid the dead pedal issue the other brands of throttle controllers have. You can see videos at Banks Power how their system works compared to all the others, the Banks Pedal Monster is the superior product.
Jrdagreat is giving conflicting torque specs, one post he says 33 ft lbs and another post he says 41 ft lbs. I have a copy of the page on the rear axle assembly and it shows 36Nm/27 ft lbs of torque. If you do a conversion you will find that 36Nm comes out to 27 ft lbs of torque and visa versa.
@@noxnyc23 If you live near the salt belt you should have done under coating already. I live in NorCal and even though it's fairly dry here, I coat my under with Wool Wax and there has been almost 0 rust or corrosion so far. Been to salty roads couple times during winter and the coating held like a champ.
There's more to it than just tightening the bolts. I will be dropping a video soon to demonstrate what Toyota wants us to do specifically for this recall. The torque specs for those 4 nuts are 41ft lbs
@@TheYotaChannel Now you say it is 41 ft lbs, you are giving conflicting specs, in one post you are saying 33 ft lbs and in this post you are saying 41 ft lbs. I have a copy of the page for the rear end assembly and it says on the paper 36 Nm/27 ft lbs for those four nuts. If you do a conversion 27 ft lbs is 36 Nm and vise versa.
This is what you need to look for as not every Tacoma was affected by the weld splatter but Toyota and the Axle Manufacture do no know how many axles were affected, what happened was a shield that protects to surface where the nuts go from weld splatter when the end plate is welded to the end of the axle tube was out of spec when they changed the design of the shield. If the area around the nuts is clean of weld splatter and the nuts are flush and tight then you don't have an issue, if you see weld splatter around the surface where the nuts are on the end plate then you might have a problem if there is any weld splatter under the nuts. The weld splatter will keep the nuts from seating flush against the end plate and that is what allows the nuts to loosen and even fall off if it is not caught. As for the torque spec Jrdagreat has given conflicting torque specs for these axle retainer bolts, he has said 33 ft lbs and 41 ft lbs but I have a copy of the page for the Tacoma rear axle assembly and that page shows the torque spec as 36Nm/27 ft lbs of torque. If you do a conversion you will find that 36 Nm is 27 ft lbs of torque and vise versa.
@mustangecoboosthpp3869 When i shot this video, the repair for the recall was not available yet. It was an interim notice. From the Toyota repair manual if you were to remove the shaft the torque specs are 33ft lbs. BUT now they issued the recall with SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS they want us to torque them to 41ft lbs
You need to check the torque spec on the four nuts on each side, you are giving conflicting torque specs in posts to people. One post you say the torque spec is 41 ft lbs in other posts you say the torque spec is 33 ft lbs. I have a copy of the page on the Tacoma rear end assembly and it shows the torque spec for the four nuts involved to be 36Nm/27 ft lbs of torque. If you do a conversion you will find 36Nm is 27 ft lbs of torque.
When i shot this video, the repair for the recall was not available yet. It was an interim notice. From the Toyota repair manual if you were to remove the shaft the torque specs are 33ft lbs. BUT now they issued the recall with SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS, they want us to torque them to 41ft lbs.
I can fix that myself. I'm really disappointed with them for getting assembled in Mexico. Asians take pride in putting something together and right. In Mexico, they don't care about any of that or enforce it even if that's the company standards.
This was an issue at the axle manufacture, they designed a new shield to protect the end plate from welding splatter when the end plate is welded onto the end of the axle tube, but the new designed shield when it was installed on there welding machine was out of spec and it allowed weld splatter to get on the surface of the end plate where the nuts tighten down. Not all Tacoma rear axles have this issue but Toyota and the Axel manufacture do not know how many axles were affected so the recall is for all of the Tacomas built between a certain date range starting in 5/22 and ending sometime in 2023. I have a 2023 Tacoma with a build date of 5/23 and it is under the recall but I looked at the rear axle tube end plates and there is no welding splatter on them around or near the four nuts and all four nuts on each side were tight.
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Thanks for the heads up, already had mine's worked on but no one explained what the problem was.😮
Simple conscience information. Kudos for common sense application. Thank you kindly.
❤ thank you for information ℹ️ 😊
I agree! Especially if you look at the nuts yourself and if they are tight, no damage, nothing else dealers can do.
Correct!
I doubt they are even going to pull the bolts out to check them properly. Just want people to sign off on inspections. If there was welding debris more than likely fucked both threads so no worth messing with it
@@T_O_Negative If the dealer mechanic does not see any weld splatter on the end plate around the nuts you can bet the most they will do is check the nuts with a torque wrench and the truck will be in and out in 10 minutes. If they find welding splatter on the surface around the four nuts they will have to remove the nuts and see of there is weld splatter under the nuts, if there is the likely remedy will be they lightly grind off or file off the weld splatter under the nuts and reinstall new nuts to the correct torque spec and I bet use loctite as well.
@@mustangecoboosthpp3869 That is if they even do it? Depends of the Tec working on your car. They may make it worse! IMO... avoid taking it there and just do it yourself.
Thank you for video. Ive seen 2-3 & yours is Spot On showing where its at. All other videos just bashing Toyota. No worries by me. I will check the tightness as well. Its odd that not 1 email or call from Toyota or Dealership tho.... I did get a service due email & a email with what dealership has for new vehicles lmao. I bought my truck 7 months ago. Now i get listings for every car on lot. Have a wonderful day
Depends on the year and build date of your Tacoma, if you have a Tacoma that was built before 5/22 then you are not part of the recall. The recall runs from 5/22 though late 2023 models of the Tacoma.
Great explanation!
Thank you
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Anything to help prevent me from taking my truck to the dealership is appreciated (the one near me has a horrible service department), so thank you for pointing out the 8 nuts I need to confirm are tight and tighten any that are not. I will check periodically in the future as well.
The best thing for your vehicle is to NOT take it to a dealership unless you have no other choice. I do all the maintenance myself. The last experience for me years ago at a dealership maintenance shop was awful.
If there is no weld splatter on the surface of the end plate around the four nuts on each side and the nuts are flush against the end plate and they are not loose you are ok, not every Tacoma has the issue but Toyota and the axle manufacture do not know how many of the axle tube end plates were affected. I have a copy of the rear axle assembly page and it shows the correct torque specs to be 36Nm/27 ft lbs of torque. If you convert Nm to ft lbs you will find that 36Nm is 27 ft lbs of torque and vise versa.
Copy your situation, if they are tight and threads are clean you can add a drop of blue dot medium strength loctite,
Good info.. Thanks for sharing!
Glad it was helpful!
Just bought a 2021 tacoma. I feel like I just doged a bullet haha.
Recently saw a couple of your videos for the first time. I really like the voiceover quality. No need to second guess what you are saying. Subbed!
Thanks bro. I really appreciate the comment.
Thank you for the sub.
Not really. Its just tightening 4 bolts. Checked mine and they are fine. No evidence of welding slag anywhere.
How I see it is that it's not just the bolts that I'm worried about. The fact that this happened tells me that these trucks didn't have as much detail oriented work done to them as much as previous years. @@270eman
@@COMM_DUMPST3R I disagree. There are always recalls on new vehicles. When you manufacture millions of vehicles every year there are bound to be problems. Its a simple check and tighten. I already have 9k miles on my 23. No problems.
Thanks man. Just got my 5th Gen 3 Tacoma and it was a November 2023 build. Likely one of the last 2023's off the line. Then I got this letter a week later. Haha.
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I have a 2023 Tacoma with a build date of 5/23 and there is no weld splatter around the surface of the end plates and the nuts are flush and tight. Some have found the end plate has weld splatter on that end plate around the nuts, those are the ones that need to pay special attention to this, it is the weld splatter that keeps the nut from seating flush with the end plate when it is tightened and those are the ones that can loosen and fall off.
@@mustangecoboosthpp3869 I am not too worried about it. I am going to take it in on my first service. I am more annoyed with this rattling noise under my dash that I cannot find. Haha.
The rear is also off center. But the stealerships say it's not. I have a '22. Still waiting for the recall.
All of them are the 16-17 are worst I’ve seen brand new ones with thrust angle as high as .70 degrees off I do a lot of Toyota alignments
I’m a 23 taco owner another thing that needs to be checked is the U bolts I found mine extremely loose and a friend of mine found his 23 loose also I tightened them back
Up to 73lbs 👍
Where it are?
@@DJOZMET the ubolts are wrap around the axel in the back holds the leaf springs down to the axel 4 bolts on each side think it’s a 19mm
I have a 2023, and I checked those retaining nuts myself a couple of days ago. They were all tight. I'll have Toyota check it when I get my notice. I'm not worried, I don't think my truck was affected.
Nice! Good thing you checked. Better safe than sorry.
Have you guys been notified to watch out for the 2024 tacoma active shutter grill sensor problems?
No, but i have replaced a few on the newer Tundra models.
How do I clear recall messages on screen
I have a 22 Taco I bought new in 3/22. No recall letter yet, and the truck has been excellent so far. Saw a bunch of posts from owners about getting them "tuned". Not sure what that's about. Why mess with something that isn't broken?
It's not necessarily broken, but anytime there's a case of an accident as a result of a manufacturing defect, even if it's one or two. The manufacturer will jump on top of it to maintain customer trust. That's the case here. I have never seen one separate or come loose.
Tuned refers to reprogramming the ECU with an aftermarket program, I don't like the tunes for the Tacoma because so far none of them allow you to do the programming with a hand held device, you have to go to the tuner and they program the ECU, that means if you have to go to the dealer for something you have to go back to the tuner to have them reinstall the stock programming or you risk voiding your powertrain warranty. If you are out of warranty then a tune might be a worth while thing to do but while in warranty just understand you risk voiding the powertrain warranty.
I have the 2.7 four cylinder, throttle lag is the biggest complaint of all Tacomas four or six cylinder, I purchased a Banks Power Pedal Monster for my 2.7 four cylinder Tacoma and it is a night and day difference. The Pedal Monster is not a tune, its sole job is to eliminate the throttle lag when to take off from a stop. I recommend the Banks Power Pedal Monster over all the others because Banks Power has built in multiple safe guards including going back to stock programming when you are in reverse and if something goes wrong it again reverts back to stock programming so you do not end up with what is called dead pedal, that is when the accelerator pedal becomes none responsive. Banks Power is the only one who has safe guards to avoid the dead pedal issue the other brands of throttle controllers have.
You can see videos at Banks Power how their system works compared to all the others, the Banks Pedal Monster is the superior product.
Your truck is outside of the recall date, the starting date for the recall was 5/22 and ended sometime in late 2023.
@@mustangecoboosthpp3869 Thanks!
Do you have a torque spec for them?
Hey, the torque specs are 33 ft lbs
@@TheYotaChannel Thanks!
@@TheYotaChannel You sure about the torque spec, I have a copy of the page for the rear axle and it shows 36 Nm or 27 ft lbs for the torque spec.
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Hey sir , do you happen to know the torque specs for those four nuts?
Hey, the torque specs are 33 ft lbs
Jrdagreat is giving conflicting torque specs, one post he says 33 ft lbs and another post he says 41 ft lbs. I have a copy of the page on the rear axle assembly and it shows 36Nm/27 ft lbs of torque. If you do a conversion you will find that 36Nm comes out to 27 ft lbs of torque and visa versa.
its ok ... everybody made mistakes .... fix it and come stronger out of that ..............
I checked mine and they were fine. IMO this is a nothing burger.
I have that same corrosion on my taco rear drum brakes. For having 10k miles I was like wtf ?? Already. Come on man!!
Do you live by the water? Or is the dealership located near one?
Lol actualy yeah I’d say a mile or two off the ocean.. I’m just worried the whole bottom will turn into a rust bucket. Thanks for the reply 👍🏼
@@noxnyc23 If you live near the salt belt you should have done under coating already. I live in NorCal and even though it's fairly dry here, I coat my under with Wool Wax and there has been almost 0 rust or corrosion so far. Been to salty roads couple times during winter and the coating held like a champ.
It's cast iron, normal.
So can we just go under and torque them to 33 ft lbs and not worry about it? I don’t even think the vehicle needs be jacked up for that right
There's more to it than just tightening the bolts. I will be dropping a video soon to demonstrate what Toyota wants us to do specifically for this recall. The torque specs for those 4 nuts are 41ft lbs
@@TheYotaChannel Now you say it is 41 ft lbs, you are giving conflicting specs, in one post you are saying 33 ft lbs and in this post you are saying 41 ft lbs. I have a copy of the page for the rear end assembly and it says on the paper 36 Nm/27 ft lbs for those four nuts. If you do a conversion 27 ft lbs is 36 Nm and vise versa.
This is what you need to look for as not every Tacoma was affected by the weld splatter but Toyota and the Axle Manufacture do no know how many axles were affected, what happened was a shield that protects to surface where the nuts go from weld splatter when the end plate is welded to the end of the axle tube was out of spec when they changed the design of the shield. If the area around the nuts is clean of weld splatter and the nuts are flush and tight then you don't have an issue, if you see weld splatter around the surface where the nuts are on the end plate then you might have a problem if there is any weld splatter under the nuts. The weld splatter will keep the nuts from seating flush against the end plate and that is what allows the nuts to loosen and even fall off if it is not caught.
As for the torque spec Jrdagreat has given conflicting torque specs for these axle retainer bolts, he has said 33 ft lbs and 41 ft lbs but I have a copy of the page for the Tacoma rear axle assembly and that page shows the torque spec as 36Nm/27 ft lbs of torque. If you do a conversion you will find that 36 Nm is 27 ft lbs of torque and vise versa.
@mustangecoboosthpp3869 When i shot this video, the repair for the recall was not available yet. It was an interim notice. From the Toyota repair manual if you were to remove the shaft the torque specs are 33ft lbs. BUT now they issued the recall with SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS they want us to torque them to 41ft lbs
No way, Toyota NEVER has a problem.
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Is it safe to drive?
if the nuts are tight, than yes. you should still take it to the dealer to perform the recall.
Look at that rust bucket. No way those nuts are falling off.
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You need to check the torque spec on the four nuts on each side, you are giving conflicting torque specs in posts to people. One post you say the torque spec is 41 ft lbs in other posts you say the torque spec is 33 ft lbs. I have a copy of the page on the Tacoma rear end assembly and it shows the torque spec for the four nuts involved to be 36Nm/27 ft lbs of torque. If you do a conversion you will find 36Nm is 27 ft lbs of torque.
When i shot this video, the repair for the recall was not available yet. It was an interim notice. From the Toyota repair manual if you were to remove the shaft the torque specs are 33ft lbs. BUT now they issued the recall with SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS, they want us to torque them to 41ft lbs.
so 3-days after the crash you can come in and get it fixed...
If it was a result of the axle shaft separating, then yea, you should definitely bring it to your local dealer and have them document it.
I'd be shocked if anyone actually has a crash resulting from this problem, frankly.
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So much rust on that thing...😮
I can fix that myself. I'm really disappointed with them for getting assembled in Mexico. Asians take pride in putting something together and right. In Mexico, they don't care about any of that or enforce it even if that's the company standards.
This was an issue at the axle manufacture, they designed a new shield to protect the end plate from welding splatter when the end plate is welded onto the end of the axle tube, but the new designed shield when it was installed on there welding machine was out of spec and it allowed weld splatter to get on the surface of the end plate where the nuts tighten down. Not all Tacoma rear axles have this issue but Toyota and the Axel manufacture do not know how many axles were affected so the recall is for all of the Tacomas built between a certain date range starting in 5/22 and ending sometime in 2023. I have a 2023 Tacoma with a build date of 5/23 and it is under the recall but I looked at the rear axle tube end plates and there is no welding splatter on them around or near the four nuts and all four nuts on each side were tight.
Thank you