Yup, and the old supercharged FA20 car was on the unreleased AD09 tyres that are on a different league to the GR86's Pilot Sport 4 tyres. Giving the GR86 the Pilot Sport 4 S , the results will be even closer
Hagerty channel did a great track review and they said the new one is a perfect 86, basically they fixed all the issues of the previous generation. The extra sculpting they did on the new one makes it look more special and sporty imo. very keen to drive a mt version.
If the new 86 has DK's approval, it must be good. It is difficult to find newer global cars that aren't too tech infused/ isolated or too big/ heavy. That are affordable, I should add.
19:04 for sound comparison, the hose into the cabin or whatever the "old" 86 has is a so much better solution than the artificial sound in the GR86.. It sounds like an old Gran Turismo game, in the worst possible way. Same goes for the GR Yaris, they have the same strange tone added to them. I have no idea why. Here's the GR Yaris without it: /watch?v=U-omd4_h-wU
Hello from a French fan ! Hello Keiichi, Manabu and Sasaki ! Thank you very much to best motoring for the english subtitles !!! Cool and fun video ! ❤👍
As much as I like the overall boost in performance for the 2nd Gen, the 1st Generation styling is a lot more unique and feels like it stands out more. 2nd Gen looks like every other sedan just as a coupe. Great car though.
@@1wasinAlpha Yeah right.... the GR86 is underrated from the factory, everybody who had put it on the dyno has the car come out to about 245hp or more, with more torque compares to the S2000. The GR86 and the new BRZ also pulled from the S2000 steadily stock for stock. Don't get me wrong, the S2000 was a great car, but the new GR86 is a great replacement for it, comes with a warranty, can sit 4 adults if needed, more horsepower, more torque, comes with the hardtop, and are affordable.
Maye I am too old school but I really don't like the all-display dashboard. I prefer the analog one or even the split ones with analogue and digital part. Though everything else is really appealing in the GR86. It sounds great, and looks well enough.
And I thought I was the only one with that opinion, I don't like that almost almost all new sportscars come with digital dash, ans some even force you to use the tach bar in sport mode instead of the dial.
it is what it is, I'd trade a good car with an analog gauge for a great car with digital gauges anyday, and I hate digital gauges. But the pros far outweigh the design of the gauges.
It would be great if you issue a new video portraying the new GR86 or ND2 testing the new Yokohama AD09, Bridgestone Potenza RE71RS, Falken RT660, Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2, Zestino Gredge 07RS and Valino VR08GP.
ダウンサイジングの時代において排気量アップなとこが素敵
これ買う為に仕事頑張ります！
メーター以外はマジで好きです。
that was amazing, the fact the stock car was able to almost outperform the tuned old GT86 was very impressive.
Yup, and the old supercharged FA20 car was on the unreleased AD09 tyres that are on a different league to the GR86's Pilot Sport 4 tyres. Giving the GR86 the Pilot Sport 4 S , the results will be even closer
織戸さんの86後期ばかカッケェ…
この時代にこれだけの完成度のスポーツカーを作れるのバケモンやろ…。旧型もいいと思ったけど新型もいいねぇ…。
織戸パパさんカッコよかったです。楽しかったです。次回・楽しみにしてます。
I have a 2022 BRZ ordered and I'm waiting for delivery! I can't wait to take to the track!
ハチロク乗りの神様がこんなに嬉しそうっていうことはよっぽど良いんですね！
こういう比較系の動画でコメント欄解放してるのは、ありがたい
いろんな意見が聞けておもしろい
つまり新旧８６は素晴らしい
SC仕様のAT旧型86は個人的に理想の仕様
Thank you for another excellent video. The new GR86 has so much potential to be explored.
Thank you for the subtitles 😘❤️
"fast on grip, fun on drift"
*slides the car at 137kph*
作为广西车友，真羡慕日本有这么棒的车企，造出这么纯粹有趣的车子
Very awesome to see how the new 86 has evolved compared to the old one. Also, Maya needs to be in more episodes!
Orido is an hero in this test, that pendulum entry made my day
That was insane considering its a stock car. I had to rewatch that like 5 times
昔のテレビを見てるかのよう。好きや
I love how we technically have all 3 current versions of the 86. We have the original, facelift, and 2nd gen
素性がとても良さそうな車ですね！
今後のカスタムも楽しみです
佐々木選手は喋りも上手そうで土屋さん、織戸さん、谷口さんの次世代になりそう
Looks like the GR86 is a big improvement over the previous model. But the old model can also be greatly improved through modifications as well.
I'm glad they didn't go too crazy with the design. It has tasteful updates and still looks like an 86.
THANK YOU FOR ENGLISH SUBTITLES
Hagerty channel did a great track review and they said the new one is a perfect 86, basically they fixed all the issues of the previous generation. The extra sculpting they did on the new one makes it look more special and sporty imo. very keen to drive a mt version.
Except turning right :)
最近新型良く見るようになりましたね
激アツ動画です！
これが見たかった！
10:01 すげえー max, so clean 🔥🔥🔥🔥
For the gr86 to only get passed just before the last lap using stock tires really shows it’s potential!
Mr Fujiwara as the development team for the 86, seems like an Anime story turned real to me
Yep. Ren Hazuki, Setsuna Yuki, and Usagi Tsukino all also a fan of Initial D cars.
MAAYAひとりいるだけで、オジサンたちデレデレｗ
織戸学さんのパワー300馬力近い直線も流石にノビはすごく良いですね😃
This gives me fath, that car companies are actually improving cars! 😊
Analogue gauges in the old model look so much better than the digital display in the new one...too bad. Dealbreaker.
I love how one of the car already done over 100,000km odo.
楽しみにしてたやつ！
新型、立ち上がりの欲しい所のトルクが非常に良さそうだし、単に立ち上がりが良いだけでなく進入が速いってのも凄い。旧型のATのスポーツ走行での適正も素晴らしい。変速レスポンスしかり、連続周回に耐えてる事、スーチャーの過給込みでのパワーもきちんと伝えてる事、これって凄い事だと思う。
そして佐々木選手、東北、岩手出身で、こんだけグイグイ 俺がこんだけやってんだぜ！って感じを出して行く。こっちにだけいるとあんまりこういう人居ないのですげぇなと思う。これからも頑張ってほしいです。尊敬
Great content as always! But I just want to say I really prefer the analog tachometer in the old 86.
5:30 ～ 1ヘアのドリフト見たら「R32はVスペックⅡで完成した」の時のドリフトと、どことなく動き似ていてコントロールしやすそう。
GR86市販車、筑波1分8秒代。25年・30年前のGT-R・NSX・スープラ並みのタイム。
筑波バトルは、楽しい～🚘️🚘️🚘️
オリダーのカスタムのおかげなのか旧型のがカッコ良く見える...🥺
旧型はチューニング前提やったけど新型はノーマルの状態でも十分過ぎるスポーツカー✨
メーターは旧型の方が好きだなー
I’ve been waiting for this. New 86 vs slightly older 86
If the new 86 has DK's approval, it must be good. It is difficult to find newer global cars that aren't too tech infused/ isolated or too big/ heavy. That are affordable, I should add.
I would love to see the new GR86 go against the classic FR sports like the S2000 head to head.
Orido-san's daughter is cute!
見た目はやっぱ旧型の方が全然カッコ良いなーと思ってたけど最近見慣れてきて新型も良いかもと思ってきた
やっぱり旧型の方がカッコイイよね😅
When peoples are going to supercharge the GR86 and optimize suspension, the performance will be out of the charts. But it's already great.
Just Brilliant, thanks for this all drivers for this 86 comparison
The rear of the GR86 looks very much like a Honda, either from new NSX S or a Civic
32のRの出だしのタイムと同じやねんなぁ…
複雑やなぁ…
24:41 ドリキンの前でドリフト決めちゃう佐々木選手、やりますね
This channel is my favorite anime!!
ノーマルでここまで走れるGR86のポテンシャル凄いな
織戸娘可愛すぎやろ。
新型86は可愛くなったな…
このバトルを見たかった！
Nice. Can't wait to get the GR86.
The guys ripping on Orido at 25:42 is absolutely priceless.
😂😂
パワー差もだけど、タイヤの違いがあり過ぎるよなぁ…
新旧のパイロットスポーツ4と織戸号のネオバ（AD09プロト）では…
パイロットスポーツ4Sならどうなったかなぁ…
This car sounds like all the cars in grand turismo 4
First time see Max san's daughter. She's cute!
Well Orido is a good looking guy, doesn't even look like a Japanese, but a very SE-Asian person. So the child got the good looking DNA as well.
Orido's daughter is 😍
凄すぎ✨私の前期86はターボですが、本当に新型86が欲しいな❤️
旧型になった86、BRZ
新型の86、BRZが一緒にサーキットで走ってるのが嬉しいね
ガソリンスポーツカーの終わりが近づいてくるなんて考えたくないな‥
パイロットスポーツ4で物足りないと思ってみたい笑笑
"MR. FUJIWARA AND HIS TEAM.." on manufacturing the GR86. What the hell???
thank you for subtitles! 🙏
19:04 for sound comparison, the hose into the cabin or whatever the "old" 86 has is a so much better solution than the artificial sound in the GR86.. It sounds like an old Gran Turismo game, in the worst possible way.
Same goes for the GR Yaris, they have the same strange tone added to them. I have no idea why.
Here's the GR Yaris without it: /watch?v=U-omd4_h-wU
25:24 i mean effortlessly flicking that steering wheel in the GR and it getting sideways my goodnessssss
最近のスポーツカーと違ってデザインも悪くなくて欲しくなるなー
26:20 後ろに、藤原とうふ店86あるね〜
Not just GR86 launch in April last year.
Gran Turismo Sport also have This car.
At least Orido-san daughter in this video. Maaya Orido
ドノーマルで8秒台ははえーだろ…
Thanks for this amazing video!
Takumi and his AE86 in the background studying the GR86's strengths and weaknesses.
Extends such joy - couldn’t have said it better!
Wow when the racers have ordered one for themselves, its good!
Hello from a French fan ! Hello Keiichi, Manabu and Sasaki !
Thank you very much to best motoring for the english subtitles !!!
Cool and fun video ! ❤👍
New one is close to 50HP more than the first gen.
As much as I like the overall boost in performance for the 2nd Gen, the 1st Generation styling is a lot more unique and feels like it stands out more. 2nd Gen looks like every other sedan just as a coupe. Great car though.
Agreed. Pre face lift though...
thank you for the subtitles!!!
Grande show! Obrigado!! 🙌🙌🙌
We want to see GR86 vs S2000
S2000 is gonna eat GR86 for breakfast!!! :D
@@1wasinAlpha Yeah right.... the GR86 is underrated from the factory, everybody who had put it on the dyno has the car come out to about 245hp or more, with more torque compares to the S2000. The GR86 and the new BRZ also pulled from the S2000 steadily stock for stock. Don't get me wrong, the S2000 was a great car, but the new GR86 is a great replacement for it, comes with a warranty, can sit 4 adults if needed, more horsepower, more torque, comes with the hardtop, and are affordable.
@@1wasinAlpha Stock vs stock, no way. Besides being more fun, S2000 has next to no torque and shitty aero.
織戸さんのマフラーサウンドめちゃ良い音してますね🎵HKSマフラーいいですね✨
Keep the English coming.
旧型のアナログメーターやっぱいいな
バイクの新型ハヤブサなんかもあえてアナログメーターだけどいいんよね
The new one’s back end looks like a FTO
Looks more like the back of the NSX to me.
I agree it’s giving me 90s FTO feels too.
It’s growing on me the headlights look very European
I didn't like it bec. It looks like a NSX, but now that you mentioned it, i like it now 😊
@@bliglum fto came first so thats why i said fto
Maye I am too old school but I really don't like the all-display dashboard. I prefer the analog one or even the split ones with analogue and digital part. Though everything else is really appealing in the GR86. It sounds great, and looks well enough.
And I thought I was the only one with that opinion, I don't like that almost almost all new sportscars come with digital dash, ans some even force you to use the tach bar in sport mode instead of the dial.
it is what it is, I'd trade a good car with an analog gauge for a great car with digital gauges anyday, and I hate digital gauges. But the pros far outweigh the design of the gauges.
新型の縦長ヘッドライトとデジタルメーターがどうしても気に入らないかな
3世代が一同に走ってて夢の様なレースを見させていただきました😂
It would be great if you issue a new video portraying the new GR86 or ND2 testing the new Yokohama AD09, Bridgestone Potenza RE71RS, Falken RT660, Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2, Zestino Gredge 07RS and Valino VR08GP.
It would have to be the RF model, because Japan doesn't offer the 2.0 litre 181hp engine variant for the lighter soft-top
The new 86 looks like it has a higher center of gravity than the old one
Just design lines....cog is lower by a hair.
It's actually lower than the older one.
やっぱ速いね～
ドリフトコントロールもすごく安定してる！
ギア比もクロスしてて最高でしょバックストレートで168キロは凄い！
オリドさんこんなに歳いってましたっけ・・・
いつの間にかアップされてた。もっと新作来て欲しいな
待ってました！
旧型後期のノーマルも参加してほしかったけどホットバージョン号の様子を見ると相手にならなかったかな
新型も欲しいけどしばらくは旧型で頑張ろう
デザインは旧型のほうが好きですが、エンジンが2.4とはいえ装備や設計など全般てきに新型のほうが優れているから新型かな。ダクトも旧型とは違って本物になったし。
5:13 タイムまで８６にしてくるあたりすごいわ笑笑
このスタイルは国産の中でも一番ではないかと。
なんだこの姉さん圧倒的にかわいいぞ。
MAX織戸の娘さんですね！
織戸さんもイケメンだから美男美女ですねwww
DKがこんだけ言うんやから相当良い車なんだろうなあ
車両コーナーをよく見てびっくりしました。時速62キロメートル でステアリングホイールで180°スピン!簡単に、車両は高速でドリフト快適であるように見えます!
Lowering the oil temp would be my first mod, after fixing that disastrous oil pick up mess.