Very impressive performance by the S2000, being Manual H pattern. The RX as well for being the smallest displacement and yet an absolute rocket on the straights.
Incredible battle, so much to really analyze and breakdown - the techniques used, car handling characteristics and behaviour, driving lines, differences in power and weight and their effect in the midst of battle.
Simply because it is made for just 1 fast lap. Totally different class (Time Attack) than the „close-to stock“-Porsche and BMW (track modified, but usable on streets) and even the heavily track-modified S2k and RX-8
I never knew they did NA battles! I’m so in love with the sound of this race, just pure engine power and throttle. I’m too poor at saving money right now to afford boosting my car so this a real breath of fresh air, knowing these guys really built NA cars to race. So used to the sound of a turbo LSX that I’m so glad I didn’t hear it once the whole video 🎉
That's why they're given starting grid in front of everyone else. M3 because of being the heaviest while not having much power advantage is most front, with S2000 starting 2nd with much lighter weight but also at power deficit compared to rest of the field.
DK great driving skills kept that s2000 in 2nd. If it had only another 50hp for the straights, and maybe a softer rear or more stroke, it would be a weapon.
It's kinda funny that the driver of the GT3 is short shifting by like 500-1k rpms on every single gearchange. All the other drivers seem to be absolutely flogging it, but the 911 driver is going at like 8/10.
@@두부-i2gmore like a 3rd man watching rather than misunderstood, basically holding back. Probably an instruction for the show for it to not get that boring, since even if the FD didn't push that much it can definitely win this race. The one who misunderstood this thing is probably people who watch Best Motoring for the first time, they think everyone is already giving their all while the producers know that the car tier is just too much of a gap to get serious.
I was very impreesed with the J's racing S2000!It is the only with it's oem manual transmission(mot with an auyomatic dct or aftermarket sequential gearboxes) and with just it's tuned 4cyl engine competing with high rev V8s or hybrid 3rotor engines!!(a 3rotor engine is like a 4stroke 4.0lit engine!!).I was expecting to finish last but it was 2nd behind a car with 5-6 times its price,double the engine,dct e.t.c..GT3 RS tuned is other class car.I believe a tuned cayman would be more fair. But what a great race,i really enjoyed it!!!!
How tuned or cheap do you think that S2000 is? Does it even have the standard engine? I mean, getting 320bhp out of 2.0 liters isn't very reliable. That Porsche is factory spec.
@@mrnicktoyou The s2000 is running its f20c engine with a stroker kit(J's has 3 options 2.2/2.4/2.7 kit.The 320ps engine i am pretty sure is the 2.2 kit.The 2.4 kit outputs 345+ hp and the 2.7 kit 365hp. If you think that an S2000 like this is even close talking about cost of purchase and tuning you need to check the price of a GT3RS...... Sure it'not cheap to build an s2000 like this but nowhere close to a GT3RS.
It depends, the stoch F20c makes 250hp in Japan and it‘s a very reliable engine as long as you always check the oil and keep it topped up. Making 50-70 more hp with a built engine doesn‘t sound to much for the engine itself. Ofc miltiple parts and internals have to be changed to gain that power NA but for the engine itself it‘s not an issue. There are turbo F20C out there with 600+ hp already.
It really was a battle 😍 and you guys did perform it with such a pro level driving. much appreciated ❤️ Thank you all you Team members for your efforts. with love 🇵🇰
I think another reason is the reverse grid - placing the faster cars in the back so they have to fight through the field. When a slower car holds up a faster for a bit, you get to see: 1. How much faster the faster car is and the technique that they use to overtake the slower car 2. When the overtake is completed, how fast they can catch up to the next car A similar excitement can be seen in real racing when the faster cars starts at the back. Also another part to the "fun" - is the unknown. I think with real racing, we always kinda know which cars/drivers are faster so we know what to expect. Here - there is a much bigger unknown before the race starts which adds to it. Unfortunately, there no real good way of doing this. Two extremes would be: 1) dramatically different car designs (where the car decides the winner) or 2) make all the cars the same (where the driver decides the winner)
This is what I love about the rx7, Performed like an absolute beast then freaking dies right after lmao. Damn rotaries are alot of trouble but the times when they actually run, they RUN!
This one doesn't really count though. The issue wasn't the engine, the issue was the lack of cooling. As the dude said multiple times in the video, it's built for one lap time attacks in the winter. When you're chasing tenths of a second you want to get rid of as much weight as possible and a full cooling system takes up a lot of unnecessary weight for the task, so he got rid of it. Do this to any of the other cars and you would have the same result. Him bowing out of competition is nothing to do with the rotary platform, but 100% on how the owner built the car and for what purpose.
![Explodes battle royal in Tsukuba 1000 horsepower GT-R !! [Best MOTORing] 2012](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Kk6a15n9QoU/mqdefault.jpg)
![Explodes battle royal in Tsukuba 1000 horsepower GT-R !! [Best MOTORing] 2012](/img/tr.png)
![Seungmin "그렇게, 천천히, 우리(As we are)" | [Stray Kids : SKZ-PLAYER]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kAzmhLHePqU/mqdefault.jpg)
RX-8だけSタイヤ履いてないのにコーナーでここまで付いて行けるの凄い
RX8がSタイヤだとまた変わっていたんだろうけど、それでもS2のコーナーがすげぇ・・・。全開で踏めてないはずなのに、あの離れていく感じはなんとも言えない余韻がある。還暦迎えてるのにこの走りができる土屋さんは本当に凄すぎます。
There has never been a western motor show any where near this level of entertainment. Porsche, bmw, honda, rotarys...yes THANK YOU
RX-8 - 8000rpm 1100 kg 380ps/374.8hp
RX-7 - 8800rpm 1030kg 390ps/384.6hp
GT3RS - 9000rpm 1359kg 500ps/493.1hp
S2000 - 8200rpm 1100kg 320ps/315.6hp
M3 - 8400rpm 1515kg 431ps/425.1hp
S2とエイトの距離感堪らんな
お二人とも流石...
wow the s2000 after more than a decade can still hold its ground.
やぱNAエンジンサウンド半端なく気持ちいい🥰⤴️⤴️
Very impressive performance by the S2000, being Manual H pattern. The RX as well for being the smallest displacement and yet an absolute rocket on the straights.
Porsche has always proven to be more consistent. In one way or another.
I would hope so with a price point as such
God I love Japan, such an entertaining, respectful, graceful, country...
Gt3 rs. Absolutely a dream car for the track.
Incredible battle, so much to really analyze and breakdown - the techniques used, car handling characteristics and behaviour, driving lines, differences in power and weight and their effect in the midst of battle.
井口さん、タイヤがキツいって言ってましたが差がそんなに離れないしABS無しであそこまで詰められるABS付いてたら土屋さんが乗られてたS2000と抜いたり抜き返されたりの白熱バトルが観られたんでしょうね やっぱりプロ凄いねー👏👏👏
That rx7 is soo crazy! Love these short races.
That FD3 was so fast, sad to see it out of the race
Simply because it is made for just 1 fast lap. Totally different class (Time Attack) than the „close-to stock“-Porsche and BMW (track modified, but usable on streets) and even the heavily track-modified S2k and RX-8
ロータリー車が2台いる事が何より嬉しい。
sタイヤのS2より速いタイム出したラジアルタイヤの3ローター8凄い❗️
マシンも凄いんでしょうけど、井口選手の腕ありきだろうなぁと感じました☺️
繊細なアクセルワークの足元に見惚れてしまいました✨
NA最高🫶
3 rotor NA engine is really amazing!
For one lap
ロータリーとVテック！日本が誇る銘エンジンを堪能出来ました！
I l0ve that these guys driving as much as they can to the limits putting the cars through it true pace, awesome to watch such skill.
That was an incredible video, I hope BM can return to do this kind of battles again in 2022!
That rx7 immense downforce was so OP
I love the sound of the RX-8 and the look and performance of the GT3 RS.
Thanks for english subtitle
That Time Attack FD! It should be fun to watch it battle the Porsche!!
'Merica needs a show like this!
Wow that rx7 sound is too cool.. sounds like v12
Finally with subs, now i can understand whats going on.
Lol, i didn't know rhey had subtitles until half of the video. 😂😂 who cares tho, i enjoyed the video thoroughly. 😂
@@sergiumatias3 👏😂 👏🤣
I never knew they did NA battles! I’m so in love with the sound of this race, just pure engine power and throttle. I’m too poor at saving money right now to afford boosting my car so this a real breath of fresh air, knowing these guys really built NA cars to race. So used to the sound of a turbo LSX that I’m so glad I didn’t hear it once the whole video 🎉
The M3 and S2000 have an incredible numeric disadvantage. Especially against the GT3.
That's why they're given starting grid in front of everyone else. M3 because of being the heaviest while not having much power advantage is most front, with S2000 starting 2nd with much lighter weight but also at power deficit compared to rest of the field.
The s2000 did pretty good considering it got the less hp of them all it show how good dk is at driving
DK great driving skills kept that s2000 in 2nd. If it had only another 50hp for the straights, and maybe a softer rear or more stroke, it would be a weapon.
どの車種も縁石のギャップに対してしなやかに動く足回りでスコスコ😊
gt3rsはやっぱ半端ない。
ドリキンの走りは全然健在ですね！
年齢考えるとすげぇや。
S2かっけぇなぁ
M3、400kgも重いのにがS2000とRX-8に相手にここまで粘れるのは凄い、で8もタイヤ差あるのに速い
で、最速はやはりポルシェ
鮫7とGT3、ヨダレ出ちゃうくらい良い音！
This is beautiful ....nice cars and very competitive and skilled drivers ....awesome !!!! Cheers from Brasil!!!
ラジアルタイヤであの走りは激アツ
8もfdもほんといい音
周りの車はかなりチューニングしてるから速くて当たり前だけど
92 M3ほとんどチューニングして無くてここまで出来るのは凄いと思う
チューニングしてこのメンツで戦えるs2とか8もすげぇよなぁ！？
@@たけちちち チューニングしないと戦えないので、そうは思えません。弄れば速くなるのは『当たり前』ですからね。その事を踏まえて書き込んでくださいよ
@@naokingver 元のスペックが違いすぎる車が戦えるって凄くねって話をしたいんだと思うけどここではズレてますね
全車サウンドが最高
When Honda gave birth to the S it gave birth to a legend 👍👏👏👏
井口選手MAZDA凄かったです
土屋さんのシフトワーク、DCTみたいな速さで衰え知らず
It was awesome to see the porsche when it was allowed to race
ポルシェの音めっちゃいい！
That RX-7 3 rotor sounds ABSOLUTELY sick!
Nice to see Nobs Porsches' dash looking like my 320k Silverado.
"All of the lights, yeaaaa, yeaaa, yeaaaaaa!"
Thankyou for uploading this video..
The Rs got soft on first pass, but eventually got it's true potential eventually
that s2000 is so nice... reminds me of the amuse s2000 from gt
Porsche makes the best cars. Really no competition there.
Hope so it a race car in stock form and this one is modified and got 120 to 180 ps more than the other car
この車達を操るプロも凄いよなー😮
Wow, what a great race. The m3 seem the least in race car trim, it didn’t have a cage and wasn’t gutted like the others.
The other cars were for track. That M3 was an entrant for touge.
Man that rx7 was fast!!
That aero and lack of weight puts it on another level.
That's a car that can do 55 secs a lap Tstukuba...
S2000 represented the 4 cylinders well
GT3ほぼノーマルなのに！ポルシェ凄いね！
元F1レーサー片山右京,谷口信輝のチーム右京メルセデスベンツAMG 元F1レーサー第3位鈴木亜久里,土屋圭市のアルネックスホンダシビック
Lovely rotary sound😍 before electric boringness becomes the norm
8はもう音がGTマシン！
The rx 8 gearbox sounds really good
ドリドリもタクティも楽しそうに走ってんなぁｗ
Where is the SS Works CRX?? Think that should be brought out to show how well it can do against new competition
porsche are always track kings
Impresionantes los coches, el nivel de preparación que hacen en este programa los japones, fantásticos.-
S2000 driver is a pilot! 🙌🏾
Do you not know who he is?
It's kinda funny that the driver of the GT3 is short shifting by like 500-1k rpms on every single gearchange. All the other drivers seem to be absolutely flogging it, but the 911 driver is going at like 8/10.
Think he misunderstood the redline of the porsche, btw Nob is geart driver. I suggest watching his suzuka time attack on hks's trb machines.
@@두부-i2gmore like a 3rd man watching rather than misunderstood, basically holding back. Probably an instruction for the show for it to not get that boring, since even if the FD didn't push that much it can definitely win this race.
The one who misunderstood this thing is probably people who watch Best Motoring for the first time, they think everyone is already giving their all while the producers know that the car tier is just too much of a gap to get serious.
I was very impreesed with the J's racing S2000!It is the only with it's oem manual transmission(mot with an auyomatic dct or aftermarket sequential gearboxes) and with just it's tuned 4cyl engine competing with high rev V8s or hybrid 3rotor engines!!(a 3rotor engine is like a 4stroke 4.0lit engine!!).I was expecting to finish last but it was 2nd behind a car with 5-6 times its price,double the engine,dct e.t.c..GT3 RS tuned is other class car.I believe a tuned cayman would be more fair.
But what a great race,i really enjoyed it!!!!
How tuned or cheap do you think that S2000 is? Does it even have the standard engine? I mean, getting 320bhp out of 2.0 liters isn't very reliable. That Porsche is factory spec.
@@mrnicktoyou The s2000 is running its f20c engine with a stroker kit(J's has 3 options 2.2/2.4/2.7 kit.The 320ps engine i am pretty sure is the 2.2 kit.The 2.4 kit outputs 345+ hp and the 2.7 kit 365hp.
If you think that an S2000 like this is even close talking about cost of purchase and tuning you need to check the price of a GT3RS......
Sure it'not cheap to build an s2000 like this but nowhere close to a GT3RS.
@@johnlountzis6678 I’d rather have the S2K. Way more exciting.
The m3 2 has oem gearbox you blind ? Jdm fanboys so blind..
It depends, the stoch F20c makes 250hp in Japan and it‘s a very reliable engine as long as you always check the oil and keep it topped up. Making 50-70 more hp with a built engine doesn‘t sound to much for the engine itself. Ofc miltiple parts and internals have to be changed to gain that power NA but for the engine itself it‘s not an issue. There are turbo F20C out there with 600+ hp already.
後半カリカリの3台に食らいつくストリート仕様のM3は凄いよ
RSは、ほぼノーマルやろが！
Really appreciate the english sub titles🤙🤙 love the videos
たった320馬力のs2000、速いなぁ
やっぱNAって奥が深い
ポルシェカッコよすぎるて
Would love to see a 3 rotor swapped porsche cayman that's set up for track racing.
Or use the new Cayman GT4RS - it would do a killer lap time for sure.
J's S2000がもし殿堂入り魔王号なら結果がどうなったかも気になるところ…
We love Japan ❤
to my Japanese friends - Greetings from Germany
日本の友達へ - ドイツからのご挨拶
選手が豪華すぎる！！！
音！最高だな
やっぱEVじゃねーんだわ
NAの音がたまらん。
安価で楽しめるNA車ないかな…
ラパンとかいいですよ
GT3最高すぎる
muy bonita lucha, la diversión siempre esta asegurada.
ポルシェは耐久王者だからLAP数を重ねても性能がほぼ落ちずに安定してる。
鮫7は1LAPに全てを捧げたから持たねぇw。
That rx7 destroyed the field in Just 2 laps sad that it overheated
Its time Attack build for 5min(other class then All other Cars)
It's the same with the Mazda 787B, it was slow but the faster cars had to retire the race.
やっぱりS2000のサウンドはヤバイよぉ〜!
もうカッコよすぎ!!!
8かっこよすぎ
It really was a battle 😍 and you guys did perform it with such a pro level driving. much appreciated ❤️
Thank you all you Team members for your efforts.
with love 🇵🇰
FD needs more front splitter.
🤣
Why is this so much more fun to watch than actual racing? Maybe because every car is different! Variety is the spice of life
I think another reason is the reverse grid - placing the faster cars in the back so they have to fight through the field.
When a slower car holds up a faster for a bit, you get to see:
1. How much faster the faster car is and the technique that they use to overtake the slower car
2. When the overtake is completed, how fast they can catch up to the next car
A similar excitement can be seen in real racing when the faster cars starts at the back.
Also another part to the "fun" - is the unknown. I think with real racing, we always kinda know which cars/drivers are faster so we know what to expect.
Here - there is a much bigger unknown before the race starts which adds to it.
Unfortunately, there no real good way of doing this. Two extremes would be:
1) dramatically different car designs (where the car decides the winner)
or
2) make all the cars the same (where the driver decides the winner)
Interesting that the FD3S and the RX-8 have sequential gearboxes, on longer straights they'd pull away.
Because they are pure race build cars against stock European.
@@fulltonefulltone every single car here is pure race car lmao not even close to stock
That all depends on the gear ratios they chose
@@jamfd3s788GT3 RS is pretty close to being stock
Subaru legacy 3.0r is my favourite n/a car 🥰
10:19 Absoutle beauty down shift.
Amazing gearbox also
I wanted the s2000 to win but I knew the GT3 RS would take it.
Same here 👍
ｓ2000乗ってるドリドリは激熱ｗｗ
まじでかっけぇ！！！
井入7ダウンフォースモンスターなだけあって最終コーナーずば抜けて速いの面白い
Great battle
レボリューションさんにもSタイヤ履いて欲しかったな
なぜそれが左ハンドルだったのか知っていますか？
This is what I love about the rx7, Performed like an absolute beast then freaking dies right after lmao. Damn rotaries are alot of trouble but the times when they actually run, they RUN!
This one doesn't really count though. The issue wasn't the engine, the issue was the lack of cooling. As the dude said multiple times in the video, it's built for one lap time attacks in the winter. When you're chasing tenths of a second you want to get rid of as much weight as possible and a full cooling system takes up a lot of unnecessary weight for the task, so he got rid of it. Do this to any of the other cars and you would have the same result. Him bowing out of competition is nothing to do with the rotary platform, but 100% on how the owner built the car and for what purpose.
What a great race!
めちゃくちゃいい音ｗ
ノブ以外こんなに身長変わらないことあるんだ笑