The S2000 actually was running thinner than OEM rear tires, though with 60 more horsepower it should've been more than half a second faster than the Jun Civic.
@@SmacattackL nsx was already better than all of the cars on the list stock but added power just makes it a monster I still think kiiechi could keep up in his hachi roku on gunsai touge track
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That Levin looks like so much fun to drive! Although it's one of the more powerful and lighter csrs on the list, its also probably the slowest on a circuit like this in the wet.
Interestingly Tsuchiya talks about the difference between the older AE86 versus the S2000 in his evaluation. I'd love to see him talk about the differences between the S2000 and the modern GT86 on the track. Seems like a prime example of car performance evaluations overtime.
@@lahtine876 no its because it designed for it. VTEC doesnt make an engine rev higher in the slightest. It is just 2 or more cam profiles all in one camshaft. Electronically controlled switch over. Allowing for a cam profile that is good for just tooting around town and another one that is more suited for power.
@@verttisyrjala2897 so what you're saying isn't wrong. In the sense that if you are going to rev the shit out of an engine you need to have the right cams for that to make power. However Cams alone do not reduce engine vibrations. Balancing shafts do that. Bore and stroke are a big factors. Also the strength of the materials and the weight of the moving parts. Less rotating mass etc. But having more lift and duration doesn't mean shit in regards to the other moving parts of a motor. In other words just cause your cams would make a shit ton of power at 8000 RPMS doesn't mean your crankshaft bearings can handle that many revs or your piston rods for that matter. I mean do you understand what cams are? explain to me how just upgrading your cams on a stock motor all of a sudden makes it able to rev higher?
I always watch miroshi's videos and often wonder why Honda ever bothered to make the nsx let alone the nsx R when any mildly worked Civic hatch with a 1800cc or large dohc bseries beat them up on the track so badly all the time I see it constantly ive never seen one of these videos where the nsx came in anything but last place , maybe second to last in a few rare instances lmao. It's nothing special, however a hand built type R motor is something truelly very special
There are also videos where all the same driving legends as here drive all the jdm legends, and the nsx beats them every time. Also, track time isn't the only thing they were going for. It was to push limits, make an exotic looking race car that can be driven daily, it has the air con ffs hahaha I don't think the same people are buying the NSX and a worked civic, nothing against any of them, it's just very obvious they're different vibes, again, track time is not the only thing that makes a car
2:13 200 hp @ 4,000 rpm? That can't be right. The engine makes about as much HP and revs about as high as an S2000 and the S2K engine doesn't hit 200 hp until VTEC kicks in.
JUN civic, rpm not loosing much almost seamless gear changes. 😲 The reason while it was able to keep up with the NSX while the Spoon S2k not even closing in.
@@dom2479 lol do you even realize how dumb that reply is? its not even relevant to what I said...stay silent when you have no idea, you may learn something.
And I'm here wishing my 2010 5 speed manual Hyundai elantra would rev match more easily. Sometimes it's easy other days it's a bitch to get the revs up.
i didnt see any car hit 10k just about 9. still high, but you dont need to lie cause thats lame. maybe one car did but i watched the first 4 cars and only saw 9k.
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That Civic at 16:34 overtakes the Altezza on the outside... on three wheels! :O
i always get a kick out of how they make these ladies stand outside when its cold and wet outside haha
Theogrn $$$
the sound of 9k+rpm makes them wet.
¥¥¥
Bless them lol
it's pointless having them there but that's just my opinion.
FF has total advantage on wet surface. I do love the Spoon S2000 though.
John Petersen because more power, they regained the lost time in the straights.
The S2000 actually was running thinner than OEM rear tires, though with 60 more horsepower it should've been more than half a second faster than the Jun Civic.
Christopher Vanwinkle no it shouldn’t have. Civic is lighter with similar hp
Even in the conditions the NSX pissed all over everything weight distribution is the key
@@SmacattackL nsx was already better than all of the cars on the list stock but added power just makes it a monster I still think kiiechi could keep up in his hachi roku on gunsai touge track
Dori-King says...
"Real men drive the NA"
Preach!
@Herobrine "Let me sing you the song of my people": explosions, whistling.
Ayie Coburn real men want more power
Real men go HIGH REV only
this is the way
All torque goes at highest revs, that is the way
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+miroshi Thanks!
Love your vids man. Any new dc5 vids coming ? Gives me inspiration for my rsx s
+Brandon Bassani Yep I've got a few.
Do you have any Honda vs VW Golf MK2?
Thanks for the amazing uploads.
only videos Honda vs. Golf R32
That Levin looks like so much fun to drive! Although it's one of the more powerful and lighter csrs on the list, its also probably the slowest on a circuit like this in the wet.
Man I love these oldschool Japanese racing vids
Interestingly Tsuchiya talks about the difference between the older AE86 versus the S2000 in his evaluation. I'd love to see him talk about the differences between the S2000 and the modern GT86 on the track. Seems like a prime example of car performance evaluations overtime.
Watch his more recent videos, at least on Carprime. Lots of time spent discussing/driving those cars
love watching these videos and then playing gran turismo and building the car and going for a better time
I thought I was the only one trying to beat their times 🤣🤣
3:40 is the coolest thing I've seen in a while! Tripod around the corner, that's amazing.
Kevin P super stiff chassis and suspension all around, now imagine it pulling more g’s in the dry.
Honda: Because they make high revving look easy.
Its because of vtec
@@lahtine876 no its because it designed for it. VTEC doesnt make an engine rev higher in the slightest. It is just 2 or more cam profiles all in one camshaft. Electronically controlled switch over. Allowing for a cam profile that is good for just tooting around town and another one that is more suited for power.
@@nicholassabrowsky9448 Higher cam profile makes the engine able to rev higher and make more power, moving the powerband to higher rpms
@@verttisyrjala2897 so what you're saying isn't wrong. In the sense that if you are going to rev the shit out of an engine you need to have the right cams for that to make power. However Cams alone do not reduce engine vibrations. Balancing shafts do that. Bore and stroke are a big factors. Also the strength of the materials and the weight of the moving parts. Less rotating mass etc. But having more lift and duration doesn't mean shit in regards to the other moving parts of a motor. In other words just cause your cams would make a shit ton of power at 8000 RPMS doesn't mean your crankshaft bearings can handle that many revs or your piston rods for that matter. I mean do you understand what cams are? explain to me how just upgrading your cams on a stock motor all of a sudden makes it able to rev higher?
@@nicholassabrowsky9448 damn, you shut him up.
what an excellent combo, japanese sports cars and tsukuba circuit
And Dori Dori
these guys are always good for a smile
these races are very entertaining.
Thanks for the new (long !!!) video
+Hondarasengan I thought the Christmas is coming so let's start giving some "longer" presents :)
best channel, please more videos, and ep3 JDM
that JUN civic rips , the gearing on that thing is sick 8k shifts
9000rpm n/a battle! That Nsx sound 😍
Loves these, thanks for the upload!
Should have revved the 86 to 12000 and blown the motor while blaring eurobeat.
FIND YOUR WAY, ADRENALINE- _gasp_
Cyka Blyat😂
No not really.. that movie is gay as fuck .. only Nerds like it..lol
@@twincammikev movie???
@@twincammikev no you
you are the man miroshi!
NSX sounds GODLY!
was the least good sounding one of all these though
@sw4gr1d its preference; also there are some pretty epic inline 4's out there
they both sound like shit beside a rotary tho
Its over 9000!!!
keep em coming bro! thanks for sharing
Reminiscing the 90's ans early 2000.. i forgot how intense the race was...good stuff
great video I appreciate it
Fantastic vid. as usual!!!!!
3:06 "Car rotates well when the LSD kicks in." xD
Then, VTEC kicked in, yo!
Now, LSD kicked in, yo!
awesome race!
Such great footage!
So happy for CC
Qué buen momento corriendo esos jdm, tremendo canal! Cheers Japan from Argentina!
I always watch miroshi's videos and often wonder why Honda ever bothered to make the nsx let alone the nsx R when any mildly worked Civic hatch with a 1800cc or large dohc bseries beat them up on the track so badly all the time I see it constantly ive never seen one of these videos where the nsx came in anything but last place , maybe second to last in a few rare instances lmao. It's nothing special, however a hand built type R motor is something truelly very special
The NSX does better on higher top speed tracks.
There are also videos where all the same driving legends as here drive all the jdm legends, and the nsx beats them every time. Also, track time isn't the only thing they were going for. It was to push limits, make an exotic looking race car that can be driven daily, it has the air con ffs hahaha I don't think the same people are buying the NSX and a worked civic, nothing against any of them, it's just very obvious they're different vibes, again, track time is not the only thing that makes a car
please more videos of tuned s2000 racing. 2ns fastest and was close enough to the NSX! what a beast
+R26Roman In that case look forward to next uploads.
5:52 AWWWWWW YEEEAAHHH that sound though
God damn that s2000 looks awesome!
good race at the end between ae86 and civic👍
2:13 200 hp @ 4,000 rpm? That can't be right. The engine makes about as much HP and revs about as high as an S2000 and the S2K engine doesn't hit 200 hp until VTEC kicks in.
Probably it has something like vtec locked on
10,000 in Japanese looks an awful lot like 9,000 in English!
They probably are all capable of rev to 10k but likely power is lost after 9k. Not useful on the track
If thay hit the limiter in every gear thay lose time on the lap.. LOL..
The Toyota 86 didnt even reach 9,000 RPM 😏😏😏
I must thank all of my repliers, you gentlemen have brought me back to a very fun video.
Yeah I’ve noticed that too. I think they just mean they’re 10,000rpm capable but the power probably dives off before even 9500
So many memories of this track in old gran turismo games
Thanks for the awesome post!
2000年ころと言えば、ダンロップタイヤがいちばん元気が無かった頃
タイヤをアドバンのSタイヤに統一出来なかったものか…
個人的には、スプーンS2000がいちばんカッコいいなぁ〜
did anyone notice the red civic at minute 3:47 is the new ek9 pictured at spoon sports. the only diference is the livery
Yeahh Initial D fans !! cheering here !! haha
It's not as easy as in the manga though.
@@edge21str Lmfao i was thinking the same all those little weebs watching on in amazement... Me im here for the motors! 😂
thanks miroshi. you make my day (*^o^*)
i wonder if Takeshi had gotten comments about driving an S2K while wearing a helmet that's boldly written: TOYOTA
AE86 vs civic fighting for their position is funny as hell😂
Very good.
When U upshift and still are in the redzone
JUN civic, rpm not loosing much almost seamless gear changes. 😲 The reason while it was able to keep up with the NSX while the Spoon S2k not even closing in.
u my friend have asesome awesome racing vids
love these shootouts
19:48
ae86 just managed to hold off the civic! very good race.
This is the very first time I've ever seen an.nsx not lose a race in last let alone come in first lmfao
The JUN civic is awesome
anybody notice how all these videos have one thing in common they all have a honda
I would love to have a setup like these cars
I love to see how nissan Zs and silvias turbo do it in this circuit versus hondas and toyotas
Good race !!
I have no idea what's they're talking about, but I can understand specs and rev counter. That's enough.
tsukuba circuit is life
i wonder what tsuchyia drives as a daily?
Perhaps his legendary ae86..he's been driving the car since his younger days before he became a racing driver.
My money is on a Honda
And I was right. Three times over. Honda will always dominate any other Japanese manufacturer.
+Brandon Bassani They make high revving look easy.
Nick Schrader same with the rx7
Buu Superbuu true but not nearly as reliable.
@@Gohan_with_glasses000 totally different engine...
Was a great race
That nsx has both midrange and top end power
Tremendo🤙
these are the types of races we wish we had in forza motorsport career mode
Shits gotta be sketchy as hell going balls out on a track in the pouring rain , I wouldn't necessarily call that safe.
that breaking point in the rain man geez!
I am surprised the Toyota vehicles didn’t do as well as the Hondas. This may have come down to the tune. 🤨😔😕
That Spoon S2K!🥰🥰🥰
those lap times on tsukuba are so slow compared to what cars are running on that circuit these days..
So what, its hondas dude nobodys that concerned abt numbers
@@dom2479 lol do you even realize how dumb that reply is? its not even relevant to what I said...stay silent when you have no idea, you may learn something.
Lol Tsuchiya-san. Initial D fans know that the 86 needs a pouring rain downhill slope at night on a mountain pass, not a rainy day on the circuit!
s2000 on 205/55/16 and 215/55/16 smaller than oem tire sizes. wonder why
What was so special about the b16b and why didnt honda put they same amount of work into the b18c?
They did lol
Honda power of dream
Rooting for the ek9..... But which one?
miroshi,b16c? is a original engine or 2 engine mixed in one? b16a ok b16 ok but b16c ? sorry my english is bad...
+Jean Amand They don't state specifically what it is, can't help you further. It's probably just misspelled B16/B
3:36 air time
the sound of that 86 tho
That Altezza 😍
What engine was in it
Tsuchiya san y u so mad :D:D
"Its only geime why u hevff to be med?"
If it's not too much work subtitles would be awesome if not still watching and leaving a like.
+Brandon Bassani Every video I upload contains a subtitle track, so just make sure you have enabled the displaying of subs.
When all Honda types of chassis are proven fun and superior ^^
19:55 Talking to your crush and she rejects you
Nice battle.
And I'm here wishing my 2010 5 speed manual Hyundai elantra would rev match more easily. Sometimes it's easy other days it's a bitch to get the revs up.
man the AE86 looked tough to drive
MUITO LEGAL!
I don't think that 86 is a time-attack car but a drift car.
Depends on the build... But yeah, track isn't it's forte from the start
the powerband of the ae86 didn't seem that smooth.
Check engine light for the nsx..
💛
Does anyone know if this is an actual show in Japan and if so what's the name of it?
Gabe Sorenson best motoring/hot version
Altezzza & AE86 . Racing Toyotas
nsx and s2k are rwd
yeah that nsx and s2k is rwd too. oww i forgot ur name reallly means ur a fan boii. gtfo.
playah hater I like the S2k and NSX. But i like the Lexus Toyota a little better we all have our preferences
wish they had a dry day run now to see the difference
i didnt see any car hit 10k just about 9. still high, but you dont need to lie cause thats lame. maybe one car did but i watched the first 4 cars and only saw 9k.
Anyone else getting wipeout fusion vibes from the intro? No? Just me? Ok