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SDAS REACT TO: Kent Hovind on the Sabbath - Response to @creationbeliever6680
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
- DIRECT RESPONSE TO: • The sabbath - Kent Hovind . Kent Hovind is known for his fierce defense of the creation story. So it is quite ironic that he'd attack the part that has to do with the seventh day. Stay tuned!
0:00 - Intro
3:24 - Was the Sabbath kept before it was made known to Moses?
24:31 - New Moons in Heaven
26:05 - Do we have to stay home on Sabbath?
40:04 - What is a Sabbath Day's Journey?
48:22 - What is Legalism?
50:31 - Work on Sabbath?
1:06:35 - Stoning People For Breaking the Sabbath?
1:17:58 - Is the Sabbath only for the children of Israel?
1:23:07 - Gentiles are Grafted in to Israel
1:27:38 - The Mini Gospel in Isaiah
1:31:55 - Who is the Real Israel?
1:36:43 - The Signature of God
1:38:06 - Can you kindle a fire or drive on Sabbath?
1:54:06 - The Sabbath was a sign between God and Israel?
1:59:38 - Did Jesus Break the Sabbath?
2:06:15 - Can we keep every day as holy?
2:13:13 - Was Jesus Refreshed on Sabbath?
2:19:20 - Being Rude When Ministering/ Keeping the Sabbath of you want to?
2:26:06 - Closing Thoughts/ Announcements
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Amen amen amen the SDA proves that the bible is truely God word, God bless you guys, watching from Sydney Australia
0:00 - Intro
3:24 - Was the Sabbath kept before it was made known to Moses?
24:31 - New Moons in Heaven
26:05 - Do we have to stay home on Sabbath?
40:04 - What is a Sabbath Day's Journey?
48:22 - What is Legalism?
50:31 - Work on Sabbath?
1:06:35 - Stoning People For Breaking the Sabbath?
1:17:58 - Is the Sabbath only for the children of Israel?
1:23:07 - Gentiles are Grafted in to Israel
1:27:38 - The Mini Gospel in Isaiah
1:31:55 - Who is the Real Israel?
1:36:43 - The Signature of God
1:38:06 - Can you kindle a fire or drive on Sabbath?
1:54:06 - The Sabbath was a sign between God and Israel?
1:59:38 - Did Jesus Break the Sabbath?
2:06:15 - Can we keep every day as holy?
2:13:13 - Was Jesus Refreshed on Sabbath?
2:19:20 - Being Rude When Ministering/ Keeping the Sabbath of you want to?
2:26:06 - Closing Thoughts/ Announcements
Ezekiel 28:15 is about Satan and iniquity(sin) was found within him, so the moral law(10 commandments) had to exist for him to have sin and it was before Sinai and Abraham
ADL always does a great job. They constantly focus on good Bible exegesis. I appreciate the ministry.
Blessings.
I appreciate your comments thank you!
Psalms 40:8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.
Jason Thomass: I didn't know that this was the next video you were going to react to because i had just recommended it this week this, I would have made sure I would be awake 2am to meet your time. You did a good job in responding.
They are certain points I would have contributed through comments and private messages should i have known it was next. Because I have also been dealing with some of the objection he brought, with SDA critics in other forums over the past years. I will number the ones I think are outstanding that kent also raised.
1. KINDLING OF FIRE: I Normally bring to the front or attention to anyone who brings this as an objection, by saying that, they are sabbath keeping rules found in the mosaic law and the ones in the ten commandments themselves and of course temporal measures that were applied even before the mosaic law. All sabbath keeping rules that are found in the ten commandments are binding because the ten commandments are forever. But however the mosaic law was depleted, only certain morals from it were reenacted by the New Testament, so the New Testament Is key in guiding or showing us which among the sabbath keeping rules from the mosaic law that are to be reenacted, like holy gathering Heb10v25. So with that said, it goes without saying that the rule about not kindling fire is not in the ten commandments and not even repeated in the mosaic law, so it is only up for scrutiny using the New Testament as to how it can be applied to today's setting.
2 PUBLIC UTILITIES: it's easy, it has to be realized that we not all living under A Biblical Christian community or setting but we all mixed up (bealivers and unbelievers). Atleast Israel as a whole was under Theocracy, so it can be easy to making sure that when designing communities and towns etc we make those designs with the provisions for sabbath keeping. The water and electricity he is talking about is already paid for before sabbath and stored in the piping system so we not going out to search for water. Still talking about living in a country or city whose design are not meant to carter for a certain religion, brings us back to kindling of fire but now focusing on combustion engines. It should be noted that the whole town is not made of Christians of the same faith like Biblical times when they were of the same belief. So it would be easy to walk to any local gathering in the community because all communities are of the same faith but not in almost every country now. People of the same faith can be separated by a good number of km's so meeting on time would need a reliable transport, so this of course was also caused by the reality of town planners whose plans are not based to cater for a religious group. So it will be more laborious to walk more than 30km's, but yes to some in communities who are fortunate enough to have the local church very close in walkable distance, then it is good to "walk" and not burn fuel, so physical reality does matter when keeping the sabbath, you don't have to make it worse.
3 DISCIPLES IN THE CORNFIELD: It clearly shows he is ignorant, the disciples did not violate any of the sabbath keeping rules by entering into a field and eating, it was actually allowed in Duetoronomy, what was 🚫 prohibited was actually harvesting but eating from your neighbor's field was allowed except harvesting. So the disciples were within the parameters of sabbath keeping, so 🤔 I had thought you folks were going to bring that out because they are quarterlies in the past years which addressed this issue by saying that, they was no violation that was done patterning sabbath keeping rules.
You folks (that would be the ADL folks) need to teach your classes at as many SDA & Other churches as possible. So many need this instruction.
We sometimes do apologetics trainings at churches and would love to come to yours if you coordinate it! 🙂
You should have told me it is your next video, I would have made an effort to stay awake.
Kent Hovind has a dubious past.....
Have you guys seen the video by Sam shamoun and Myles responding to Greg on Bible flocks on the Sabbath 😂😂😂
Men it's hilarious ....their analogy is so weak so I think you guys should respond to them
Compare the new video with Sam shamouns initial video and see the pure contradictions in other to run from that commandment
We all know how Sam shamoun dislikes calvinists but then he had a calvinist on his show 😂 to refute someone
“the enemy of my enemy is my friend".😂😂😂
From one NEW MOON. The day of the NEW moon to the next NEW moon. The NEW moon comes on a different day each month. You are not paying attention guys. He reestablished the Sabbath when Israel reached the wilderness of sin with the manna.
Critical note for Exodus 16 at the Wilderness of Sin, verse 4-31. Count the days before the Sabbath day. Count forward, count backward. There are always six days before the Seventh- day Sabbath. Every New moon/ month/ Hodesh, count 6 days and you will arrive at the true Sabbath day of the LORD your God. Study more diligently Exodus 16 and Leviticus 23. Find the TRUE Sabbath day. It is not always "Saturday". "Saturday" is a Luciferian/pagan/Catholic innvention. SDA's who follow this unbiblical calculation of God's Sabbath day, may as well keep "Sunday" Kent Hovimd is presumptuous. This is what these so called "brilliant" men dishonour God with their own corrupt knowledge.
you guys do not have to go all around the Bible to find if there was a law before Sinai. God's character is His law, and His law is His character. Lucifer broke the law in heaven.
I can show a video of a Sabbatarian who admitted to Sunday. Can I show you?
That sounds like a Presbyterian view. Sounds interesting.
@@PrairieChristianOutreach
If that means, yes I may show; ....
George Ramocan, absolutely directly admits to Sunday.
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@SabbatarianSundayer are you referring to the Doug Bachelor video where he was doing a demonstration of how he would speak to someone who believe keeping Sunday holy biblical? So he wore a 2 colored suit and turned one direction and acted like a Sunday keeper and turned the other way to answer as he would as a Sabbath keeper. Is that what you are referring to?
@@thatnicekid04
That's not the immediate video that I'm referring to; yet that about Doug; is 1 of them.
@@SabbatarianSundayer. ultimately what people say means very little when determining the will of God.
So people may admit whatever they like. What does God say? What does the Bible say?
All Seventh-day Adventists do not believe the same thing. I for example do not believe, and I know with biblical evidence, that the seventh day is not always "Saturday". Friday, Saturday and Sunday are Luciferian/pope Justinian/pope Gregory's invention. Since when does Lucifer and the Roman Catholic care to give Seventh-day Adventists their true calculation of the Seventh day Sabbath? Here is our folly as Seventh-day Adventists, we reject Christmas, we reject Halloween, we reject Valentine's day, we reject Easter, we reject Sunday, but we keep Saturday. If Satan lied to us six times should we believe him on the seventh time? Either way Satan wins if you we keep Saturday or Sunday. Please see the devil in the details. Forget critiquing Kent Hovind. Study your Bible more purposefully and ask the Holy Spirit for revelation. It is there. Genesis 1,2; Exodus 16; Leviticus 23. There is much moret, but start there.
📯🕘⏳⌛ KJVB John 15: 9-13, Isaiah 52:14, Revelation 19: 13, John 1: 1-18 ( you cannot separate ALMIGHTY CREATOR INFALLIBLE AUTHORITY GOD from HIS WORD = JESUS CHRIST
You guys got away this time because i was busy. You 3 agreed that no laws or Commandments were given to the people of israel prior to exodus 20 and its clearly seen in exodus 16 verse 16 and 26-32. God is clearly upset that the people were not follwing His laws and commandments. No law that you are thinking of (ten commandments) were given at that time. So what laws and commandments was the LORD referring to? Tsk tsk.. Hopefully i will catch you next time
Was there a law against murder before My Sanai?? ABSOLUTELY!! God punished Cain for murdering Abel-- He was exiled from the Garden.
Was there was law against adultery before My Sanai??ABSOLUTELY!!
Read about the kings wife with Joseph and what he said.How then could I do this most wicked thing, and sin before God." And much as she coaxed Joseph day after day, he did not yield to her request to He beside her, to be with her' (Gen. 39:7-10).
He knew that he would be an adulterer. NO LAW was written at that time!!!
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OT, we also do a show called CHALLENGE AN SDA every Sabbath and it is open mic. Feel free to "catch us" on there and challenge us on the current topics.
@@AdventDefenseLeague you have the information. Its up to you to share amongst your people or keep it to yourselves. Being honest is your own call
@@AdventDefenseLeague worry more about doing your research and sharing truth than gaining and keeping subscribers. That's my best advice to you
@otgenesis5046 hey I was just giving you an opportunity to talk to us live since you believe we "got away" from you last time 🤷🏻♂️