Really good demonstration of different techniques. Although steep takeoffs are widely practised in the real world in this type of aircraft they are potentially highly dangerous if there is sudden engine failure. At such a low height with such a high angle of attack there’s not much hope of recovery. One of the advantages of the sim world!
Love the content. The airliners I flew were landed as you demonstrated; kicking off the drift and applying into wind aileron to land cross controlled. Of course, sticking to the max crosswind limit is vital in this case as 'fudging it' could lead to more bank than is desirable, followed by a scraping noise and the search for a new job. There are also airliners that are designed to let the main gear sort it for you (makes my blood runs cold to think of it) and the B52 pivots its main gear to stay lined up. I was taught that you should land a taildragger with a wheeler in crosswinds. It only works with a perfectly done wheeler on a tarmac surface. I hate wheelers as they feel so unnatural (I have landed but I may accidentally go flying again ...) so I always stuck to a '2 pointer' as you showed.
Haha, high pressure landing a wheeler in these conditions. Though if slow enough, you could probably land perfectly into wind even if that was across the runway! 😄
I'm disappointed that you missed the most popular landing technique: Turn the engine off, pump on the yoke until the propeller stops and then jump out with a parachute. ;)
I’ve not tried the basic engine yet. Not have I directly compared new prop physics. I could do some testing for the prop dynamics on takeoff, nice idea. As for the left wing, you mean when applying rudder? If so then yes 👍🏻
Crabbing or slipping to the runway in a crosswind Landing is definitely a “pilots preference“ thing. Both techniques will work. My preference, is to slip all the way down. In my opinion, keeping the nose directly down the runway and flying the slip all the way down eliminates the need for you to make a dramatic control change right before touching down. It’s better to keep the approach as stable as possible without making huge configuration changes to the controls immediately before landing. One thing pilots need to keep in mind, however, is that when you’re slipping to a landing for a crosswind, your descent rate will be steeper than usual, so expect a steeper profile. After all, a slip is still a slip.. Again, this is just my opinion and preference after 15 years of flying. (Supercub pilot)
@@cgaviator also, I forgot to mention, when you’re flying a slip your airspeed will read lower than normal. When some pilots fly a slip to a landing, in the case of a slip being used for rapid descent rather than crosswind correction, they will sometimes get confused why they are carrying too much air speed when they roll out of the slip and balloon. The reason is usually they are flying their normal descent airspeed on the ASI even though they are flying a slip. In reality, their air speed is higher than indicated, so as soon as they turn the pitot tube directly into the wind their air speed needle shoots up and they end up being too fast. If you’re the type that flies the ASI on the numbers down the approach, shoot for about 5 kts slower than usual.
Absolutely lovely video, and an ability to learn something as well :) The //42 Kitfox is an awesome plane, I just wish we had a better G3X implementation ...
Great vid, Im practicing STOL at the moment why the savage gravel, not easy to handle for me having no nose wheel, but its worth it. Try french alps (LF55, LF53), very fun!
I presume you’re asking which copy to purchase? I downloaded from the MSFS store, it was simple enough. Even if you get it on disk you’ll still likely need to download all the updates.
What you called a side-slip was, in fact, a forward slip. In a side-slip, the windward wing is lowered and opposite rudder is used to point down the runway. In a crosswind, this keeps you centered over the runway. Without a crosswind, a side-slip can move you laterally while still pointing straight ahead. In a forward slip, the nose is yawed in one direction and opposite rudder is applied to prevent turning in that direction. The airplane is in a high-drag configuration and descends rapidly on runway heading, but the nose is not aimed down the runway. The forward slip must be neutralized before landing. I learned: a forward slip has the airplane moving forward down the runway, but not pointing down the runway. A side-slip has you pointing straight down the runway, while preventing a crosswind from moving you to the side.
Smart a*** 😜 Actually that was a superb wee watch. Got me in the mood to try a one wheel landing in the Hawk 😉 Thanks again for a very informative video. Excellent as always Sir 👌 👏 👍🏻 🙂
Back in 1982,I went to an airshow at Middle Wallop Army Air Corps base.One aspect of that show has never left me,it involved a very experienced pilot in a tiny Auster (I think) hooning down the flight line pretending to be a novice.dressed in safari like clothing and a bush hat,the control that guy had was amazing...................................
One interesting thing, I know some really big aircraft, like the B-52 I believe, actually have undercarriage that can rotate and point at an angle from where the nose is pointed, such that you can touch down with the undercarriage lined up in the direction of travel (hopefully straight down the runway) while the body of the aircraft can remain in the crab. I think they do this as with those large aircraft the bank angle limit I'd imagine is tiny to avoid wing tip strike.
@@cgaviator yeah, definitely bonus points to whoever came up with it. I think some other big aircraft might do similar but the B52 was the only example that came to mind.
wat a nice airplane ! an the replay cam wow !!!!
it is a stunner! so nicely modelled and a joy to fly
Really good demonstration of different techniques. Although steep takeoffs are widely practised in the real world in this type of aircraft they are potentially highly dangerous if there is sudden engine failure. At such a low height with such a high angle of attack there’s not much hope of recovery. One of the advantages of the sim world!
Too true!
Love the content. The airliners I flew were landed as you demonstrated; kicking off the drift and applying into wind aileron to land cross controlled. Of course, sticking to the max crosswind limit is vital in this case as 'fudging it' could lead to more bank than is desirable, followed by a scraping noise and the search for a new job. There are also airliners that are designed to let the main gear sort it for you (makes my blood runs cold to think of it) and the B52 pivots its main gear to stay lined up. I was taught that you should land a taildragger with a wheeler in crosswinds. It only works with a perfectly done wheeler on a tarmac surface. I hate wheelers as they feel so unnatural (I have landed but I may accidentally go flying again ...) so I always stuck to a '2 pointer' as you showed.
Haha, high pressure landing a wheeler in these conditions. Though if slow enough, you could probably land perfectly into wind even if that was across the runway! 😄
I cant believe you have so few subscribers. Great videos and beautifully filmed. Loved the Duxford vid.
Appreciate that! Early days I hope 🤞🏻
I'm disappointed that you missed the most popular landing technique: Turn the engine off, pump on the yoke until the propeller stops and then jump out with a parachute. ;)
Haha, yeah, not with this bird! 😂
Day 2 of requesting you to fly an f15 from lakenheath, love the content 👍
Haha! How about an F35? Just got the update. I’ll see what’s possible but I haven’t forgotten. I just don’t get much time 👍🏻
@@cgaviator ok sound good
Have you tried a basic engine variant with new propeller physics and without trim flaps? Is the left roll effect accurate?
I’ve not tried the basic engine yet. Not have I directly compared new prop physics. I could do some testing for the prop dynamics on takeoff, nice idea. As for the left wing, you mean when applying rudder? If so then yes 👍🏻
Crabbing or slipping to the runway in a crosswind Landing is definitely a “pilots preference“ thing. Both techniques will work. My preference, is to slip all the way down. In my opinion, keeping the nose directly down the runway and flying the slip all the way down eliminates the need for you to make a dramatic control change right before touching down. It’s better to keep the approach as stable as possible without making huge configuration changes to the controls immediately before landing. One thing pilots need to keep in mind, however, is that when you’re slipping to a landing for a crosswind, your descent rate will be steeper than usual, so expect a steeper profile. After all, a slip is still a slip.. Again, this is just my opinion and preference after 15 years of flying. (Supercub pilot)
Cool, thanks for the info!
@@cgaviator also, I forgot to mention, when you’re flying a slip your airspeed will read lower than normal. When some pilots fly a slip to a landing, in the case of a slip being used for rapid descent rather than crosswind correction, they will sometimes get confused why they are carrying too much air speed when they roll out of the slip and balloon. The reason is usually they are flying their normal descent airspeed on the ASI even though they are flying a slip. In reality, their air speed is higher than indicated, so as soon as they turn the pitot tube directly into the wind their air speed needle shoots up and they end up being too fast. If you’re the type that flies the ASI on the numbers down the approach, shoot for about 5 kts slower than usual.
@@AV8R_1 that’s absolute gold! I’m not sure MSFS would model that. But I’ll remember it for when I get my plane! 😅
Can't wait to try to this at EGGP when there's a southerly wind😂
In this aircraft? Just land in the southerly direction across the runway… plenty wide enough! 😁
Absolutely lovely video, and an ability to learn something as well :) The //42 Kitfox is an awesome plane, I just wish we had a better G3X implementation ...
Agreed!
Great vid, Im practicing STOL at the moment why the savage gravel, not easy to handle for me having no nose wheel, but its worth it. Try french alps (LF55, LF53), very fun!
I do enjoy the Alps! Thanks
I msfs better in steam or from disc?
I presume you’re asking which copy to purchase? I downloaded from the MSFS store, it was simple enough. Even if you get it on disk you’ll still likely need to download all the updates.
What you called a side-slip was, in fact, a forward slip. In a side-slip, the windward wing is lowered and opposite rudder is used to point down the runway. In a crosswind, this keeps you centered over the runway. Without a crosswind, a side-slip can move you laterally while still pointing straight ahead. In a forward slip, the nose is yawed in one direction and opposite rudder is applied to prevent turning in that direction. The airplane is in a high-drag configuration and descends rapidly on runway heading, but the nose is not aimed down the runway. The forward slip must be neutralized before landing. I learned: a forward slip has the airplane moving forward down the runway, but not pointing down the runway. A side-slip has you pointing straight down the runway, while preventing a crosswind from moving you to the side.
Not heard that before, thanks
Smart a*** 😜
Actually that was a superb wee watch. Got me in the mood to try a one wheel landing in the Hawk 😉
Thanks again for a very informative video. Excellent as always Sir 👌 👏 👍🏻 🙂
Haha! No worries 👍🏻
The right and best ways to do it! Was (fun) standard procedure with the DV20 and HK36. Thanks for sharing sane content!
My pleasure, thanks 🙏🏻
Back in 1982,I went to an airshow at Middle Wallop Army Air Corps base.One aspect of that show has never left me,it involved a very experienced pilot in a tiny Auster (I think) hooning down the flight line pretending to be a novice.dressed in safari like clothing and a bush hat,the control that guy had was amazing...................................
Is that when he pretended to steal the aeroplane? I’ve seen that routine a few times, proper crazy flying!
@@cgaviator Oh yes,that is the routine he used,crazy is the word....................
One interesting thing, I know some really big aircraft, like the B-52 I believe, actually have undercarriage that can rotate and point at an angle from where the nose is pointed, such that you can touch down with the undercarriage lined up in the direction of travel (hopefully straight down the runway) while the body of the aircraft can remain in the crab. I think they do this as with those large aircraft the bank angle limit I'd imagine is tiny to avoid wing tip strike.
Yup, I know some B52 pilots, what a great idea!
@@cgaviator yeah, definitely bonus points to whoever came up with it. I think some other big aircraft might do similar but the B52 was the only example that came to mind.
Just for the intro of you coming out of the tent IT'S A THUMB UP!
Haha, thought it was a novel intro!
@@cgaviator season 01 episode 01,more to come ahah!
@@blackfalco33 😂
I bought the standard kit fox for 18 dollars CAD, does the aircraft customization work on Xbox?
Sorry for the late reply. Not used it on Xbox. Not sure if it would with the external mod manager.
@@cgaviator thank you, and don’t apologize it’s fine
Great video
Appreciate it 🙏🏻