[1242] NYT Wirecutter Says These Are The Best Bike Locks

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  • Опубликовано: 14 фев 2021
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  • @loganlachance1890
    @loganlachance1890 3 года назад +7894

    LPL's greatest weapon, the pick he and bosnian bill made.

    • @cy-one
      @cy-one 3 года назад +216

      It's a name now, so it's The Pick Bosnian Bill and I made :D

    • @Rose_Butterfly98
      @Rose_Butterfly98 3 года назад +35

      It's designed now

    • @xnownxinc5680
      @xnownxinc5680 3 года назад +10

      we need a new category ..

    • @aserta
      @aserta 3 года назад +39

      Nah. It's the friendship he made along.

    • @TheExxse
      @TheExxse 3 года назад +48

      you meant "The Pick Bosnian Bill and I made(, which is now on sale)" xD

  • @elevatorz89
    @elevatorz89 3 года назад +4017

    "Nobody had the correct tools"
    LPL: I guess they didn't buy the pick Bosnianbill and I made.

    • @larper8or851
      @larper8or851 3 года назад +128

      As a professional locksmith and hobbyist lockpicker, no, they don't. It's not financially worthwhile to buy this tool because we so very rarely deal with them in the field, and truth be told, we usually wind up just cutting them off. I have one that I bought with my own money, and it lives on my desk at home, because when I told my boss about it, his response was that it was waste of money for a toy I don't need.

    • @terravarious
      @terravarious 3 года назад +12

      They've been out of stock for how long?

    • @larper8or851
      @larper8or851 3 года назад +13

      @@terravarious weeks? Months? I'll admit, it can be difficult to lay your hands on one.

    • @schlong8276
      @schlong8276 3 года назад +22

      @@larper8or851 The last time it was stocked. they ran out in minutes, and that tooks them more than about 5 months to make more

    • @TheHiroClaw123
      @TheHiroClaw123 3 года назад +20

      @@larper8or851 As a professional, how much of what LPL does do you think is realistic, and is there anything about him that uninformed audiences don't really pick up?

  • @ToddHowardWithAGun
    @ToddHowardWithAGun 3 года назад +2200

    The fact it took you 30 seconds to pick this is honestly a ringing endorsement of this type of lock.

    • @musclegeek1991
      @musclegeek1991 3 года назад +261

      Another thing to bear in mind is that you’re supposed to try to lock up the bike in a way that makes the keyway difficult to access.

    • @indianakernick3788
      @indianakernick3788 3 года назад +98

      Fiddling around with a bike lock for that long on the sidewalk would look pretty sus

    • @noneofyourbeeswax7296
      @noneofyourbeeswax7296 3 года назад +509

      @@indianakernick3788 Then again, bystanders don't give a fuck and are too scared to do anything most of the time.

    • @Newb118
      @Newb118 3 года назад +8

      Yeh its pathetic, halfords are selling these for £60!

    • @thepassionofthegoose5472
      @thepassionofthegoose5472 3 года назад +38

      @@musclegeek1991 On a city parked motorcycles I face my lock in a position that makes using the key difficult, which has worked well since on more than one occasion someone tried to steal a bike I had U-locked.

  • @roninnder
    @roninnder 3 года назад +745

    I just checked the article and they have updated it to no longer call these locks unpickable, but rather “...should foil all but the most savvy criminal using specialty tools.”

    • @rampoatchess2758
      @rampoatchess2758 2 года назад +163

      That mean they watched this. Good for them.

    • @neilwinter9862
      @neilwinter9862 2 года назад +5

      Hi dad

    • @Senhordaverdadeabsol
      @Senhordaverdadeabsol 2 года назад +38

      " but the most savvy criminal using specialty tools.”, a.k.a LPL

    • @CHR15718N
      @CHR15718N 2 года назад +41

      Well, LPL took more then 10 second to pick each of them… Thieves are probably taking the bolt cutter.

    • @nolyspe
      @nolyspe 2 года назад +6

      "both sides" new york times strikes again

  • @jerry3115
    @jerry3115 3 года назад +3085

    Someone: disk detainer can't be picked
    Lpl: how many times do I need to teach you this lesson, old man?

    • @duwb0
      @duwb0 3 года назад +94

      They know it can be picked, they just want to see the tool that BosnianBill & LPL made.

    • @schlong8276
      @schlong8276 3 года назад +30

      I once saw a thief outside of my house trying to rake my neighbour's cheap DD lock with a rake then proceed to switch to a dimple lock rake and try again...

    • @fredrickseiler4492
      @fredrickseiler4492 3 года назад +5

      @asdrubale bisanzio Sponge Bob references are the best! LOL

    • @Just_A_Dude
      @Just_A_Dude 3 года назад +9

      LPL's the Old Master though, so I think it'd more "You have much to learn, Grasshopper."

    • @chnet968
      @chnet968 3 года назад +14

      There aren't mechanical locks that cannot be picked. As long as it can be opened with a key, it can be opened.
      The difference is just whether you can readily get the tool to pick it, and the skill required to pick.

  • @TheWallaB
    @TheWallaB 3 года назад +5685

    After picking 5000 disc detainer cores, LPL has finally unlocked the Carbon Black skin for the pick that he and Bosnian Bill made

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 3 года назад +50

      That's the factory colour for the ones mass produced by sparrows.

    • @MrBLions14
      @MrBLions14 3 года назад +288

      You must be a blast at parties lol

    • @michaelsebastian2842
      @michaelsebastian2842 3 года назад +241

      @@johndododoe1411 You forgot the "Ackchyually"

    • @butterlerpunch
      @butterlerpunch 3 года назад +36

      Gold skin when?

    • @Imurai
      @Imurai 3 года назад +113

      @@butterlerpunch that's a DLC, and LPL is smarter than getting fooled into microtransactions

  • @DoctorChained
    @DoctorChained 2 года назад +466

    NYT updated their article: "In February 2021, a RUclips expert who goes by the name LockPickingLawyer posted a video in which he said that tools for picking disc-detainer locks were becoming more common-in fact, he designed one himself that’s now available online and that he used to open our top pick in 46 seconds and our upgrade pick in 58 seconds. Given that the brute-force methods we tried took even less time to destroy a lock, though, we remain less worried about lock picking than we do about bolt cutters and angle irons."

    • @treescompany3462
      @treescompany3462 2 года назад +38

      Between "angle irons" and the ambiguous phrase that can imply that LPL designed a disc detainer lock and not a pick, im really hoping this isn't a direct quote from the NYT because these typos are SOMETHING

    • @ilmpyt
      @ilmpyt 2 года назад +23

      That's dumb, those other methods are way too violent, why not taking the whole rake of bikes parked and throwing it into a van? The dangers of picking is that it's a lot smoother and doesn't grab unnecessary attention. Following this line of thought, angle grinder will always win eventually. Silly.

    • @DoctorChained
      @DoctorChained 2 года назад +94

      @@ilmpyt but they're right. Criminals normally cut through bike locks, not pick them. If you want a truly unpickable bike lock get a forever lock. Just because it can't be picked doesn't make it the most secure lock ever.

    • @lmaoroflcopter
      @lmaoroflcopter Год назад +15

      @@ilmpyt no-one cares about attention aside from the opportunistic thief, which a zip tie would likely protect against. Proper criminals will battery angle grinder the thing off, or use battery powered hydraulic cutters now available.

    • @ennuiii
      @ennuiii 9 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@DoctorChainedI know two dudes that steal bikes with these tools now in broad daylight lol, can't do that with an angle grinder

  • @tomokokuroki2506
    @tomokokuroki2506 3 года назад +846

    LPL: mass-produces the tool that Bosnian Bill and he made
    Lock companies: *oh god*

    • @ivan_pozdeev_u
      @ivan_pozdeev_u 3 года назад +22

      **raises his hands and looks towards the horizon** "Behold!!"
      **as regiments of disc retainer picks march past below his position**

    • @fr4nk_m
      @fr4nk_m 3 года назад +5

      All the Locks Companies left the chat

    • @shantygaming694
      @shantygaming694 3 года назад +16

      And normal people are caught in the cross fire.

    • @sharkforce8147
      @sharkforce8147 3 года назад +2

      @@shantygaming694 you could already buy a pick for disk detainer picks for about 5 bucks (iirc, I actually saw one once on wal-mart's online store). they were just a lot crappier, or more expensive and custom-made.

    • @AlexMint
      @AlexMint 2 года назад +29

      @@shantygaming694 Yeah seriously, fuck LPL, I want my bike back.

  • @BFedie518
    @BFedie518 3 года назад +797

    "Relatively safe *for now* "
    Gotta love how he's directly responsible for that "for now" lol

    • @gergokerekes4550
      @gergokerekes4550 3 года назад +27

      thing is, it is only the normal person who just learned this now, a good bike thief probably has this already down.

    • @bigd7861
      @bigd7861 3 года назад +35

      @@gergokerekes4550 WAY to slow for a bike thief! Battery powered saws all with a carbide blade. 👍

    • @psychedalek
      @psychedalek 3 года назад +6

      @@gergokerekes4550 that's not a thing. the thing is what the OP posted, and he's right

    • @lairdcummings9092
      @lairdcummings9092 3 года назад +3

      @@psychedalek those are totally things. I sell four different brands in the hardware store where I work.

    • @alex2005z
      @alex2005z 3 года назад +1

      @@bigd7861 well at a point you might as well sew whatever the bike is locked to

  • @lef1354
    @lef1354 3 года назад +3384

    NYT: nobody has the tools to pick these.
    The tool that BosniAnBill and I made has enter the chat.
    NYT: shit...

    • @dan2800
      @dan2800 3 года назад +20

      I laughed at this way too much then i should

    • @StevePinkham
      @StevePinkham 3 года назад +98

      It's funny.. But on the other hand, if you go to a lockpicking meetup and nobody has the tool let alone the skills to use it, it does say something about the real world chance of yours getting picked..

    • @kidthorazine
      @kidthorazine 3 года назад +24

      yeah but really, pretty much nobody outside of some locksmiths and a really hardcore subset of the locksport community has the tools or skills to open these.

    • @apaajaboleh104
      @apaajaboleh104 3 года назад +11

      NYT : Did I just hear Boss music?

    • @SportyMabamba
      @SportyMabamba 3 года назад +6

      Kryptonite Lock design Dept: why do we hear boss music?

  • @Finn-qo7gq
    @Finn-qo7gq 3 года назад +591

    I think lock companies should use LPL as a way to test their locks before putting them on the market. If the lock lasts more than a minute with him, it’s basically invincible against anyone else

    • @187BulletProof1
      @187BulletProof1 3 года назад +79

      It's actually already happening. Some companies send him the prototype locks to mess with so he can come up with improvement suggestions.

    • @capisenior
      @capisenior 2 года назад +61

      Must be pretty upsetting for the engineers to spend months designing a model to watch it get picked in 3 seconds

    • @goku445
      @goku445 2 года назад +26

      @@capisenior Honestly, that would just mean they suck.

    • @extremetea
      @extremetea 2 года назад +22

      Yeah i don't think the LPL understands just how much better he is than the rest of us at picking locks. Although i will say that back when we were bad kids we robbed soda machines with a tube pick made out of a bullet casing rubber bands and Bobby pins. I think it was..38cal lmao good times

    • @sniper8567
      @sniper8567 2 года назад +3

      If it was inexpensive and easy to do a lock tike that, they would. But it is not.

  • @Tortilla.Reform
    @Tortilla.Reform Год назад +111

    The anxiety I have watching this video, while I sit in a doctors office knowing my electric bike is locked up with one of these locks across the street is palpable

    • @block_head_steve240
      @block_head_steve240 Год назад +10

      just face the keyhole away in a way that makes it inconvenient to pick

    • @LipziG3R
      @LipziG3R Год назад +17

      make if face towards a wall or downwards, include a chain and another lock. Especially with an e-bike, where weight matters less I would go with 2-3 locks connected with one another. That means you'd have to pick multiples in different angles or you'd have to brute force multiple ... both is something a thief is absolutely not looking for.

    • @iPizzaSlice
      @iPizzaSlice 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@LipziG3R
      Impractical to a Dasher

  • @Davidesrajohn
    @Davidesrajohn 3 года назад +2757

    Oh cool that's my bike lock. Can't wait to have my trust in it destroyed in 1 minute flat.

    • @sakaraist
      @sakaraist 3 года назад +152

      don't worry, my bike with it was already stolen a while back lmao

    • @davidwebb4904
      @davidwebb4904 3 года назад +13

      Insurance....

    • @sobhaks7231
      @sobhaks7231 3 года назад +23

      @@davidwebb4904 bycycles have insurance?

    • @davidwebb4904
      @davidwebb4904 3 года назад +54

      @@sobhaks7231 if you it, you can get it. Insurance companies will insure anything, for a price.

    • @davidwebb4904
      @davidwebb4904 3 года назад +43

      How much is your bike worth, out of curiosity 😁 And where do you usually park it? Asking for a friend....

  • @dinkeykong
    @dinkeykong 3 года назад +909

    “Say the line Bart!”
    “The pick that BosnianBill and I made.”
    “YAAAAAAAAAAY”

    • @johnsmith1926
      @johnsmith1926 3 года назад +5

      I sometimes wonder if he just uses samples of his old videos for 'the line'..

    • @gawainfoster1930
      @gawainfoster1930 3 года назад +6

      @@johnsmith1926 Not on this one! Today he said "The pick BosnianBill and I DESIGNED". Cheeky bastard.

    • @cdevidal
      @cdevidal 3 года назад +2

      I didn’t do it

  • @esmoshure1617
    @esmoshure1617 3 года назад +155

    "These are relatively safe for now..." until the lockpick I designed catches on among thieves.

    • @aralornwolf3140
      @aralornwolf3140 3 года назад +1

      Or they come out with faster saws...

    • @ivan_pozdeev_u
      @ivan_pozdeev_u 3 года назад +17

      @@aralornwolf3140 That's hardened steel. Only an angle grinder can cut it.
      In a previous video about one of these, he mentioned that the manufacturer or the media did a test of leaving a bike secured with it in NYC unattended for several days, and it was still there, with traces of a few cutting attempts.

    • @aralornwolf3140
      @aralornwolf3140 3 года назад

      @@ivan_pozdeev_u ,
      Faster angle cutters then, lol.

    • @TheDonutMan3000
      @TheDonutMan3000 3 года назад +5

      @@aralornwolf3140 angle grinders aren’t the most covert technique to break open a lock. They’re very loud and create a lot of bright sparks when cutting steel. A ‚faster‘ grinder wouldn’t really do you much good, since it would worsen said issues.

    • @aralornwolf3140
      @aralornwolf3140 3 года назад +1

      @@TheDonutMan3000 ,
      Yes... the bike would still be stolen, right?

  • @vampiremonkeyonspeed
    @vampiremonkeyonspeed 3 года назад +1011

    "Strange that nobody has heard of this very common tool that I designed"

    • @mementomori4972
      @mementomori4972 3 года назад +131

      There are other professional tools out there, that will do the same thing,...his is just the most inexpensive quality tool.

    • @sourkeys8136
      @sourkeys8136 3 года назад +54

      Yea he doesn't claim to have invented the pick, thats just the one they made and are selling he's using his channel as a plug for his business its a smart move

    • @Alex-ve1og
      @Alex-ve1og 3 года назад +72

      @@sourkeys8136 They gave away the design, he's not making money off of it.

    • @sebastianriz4703
      @sebastianriz4703 3 года назад +12

      @@Alex-ve1og Just because you give your designs away to the public, that doesnt mean you cant make money off your design. The grand majority of people dont have the tooling to make this tool so they will buy it. Where are they most likely to buy it? Well from whatever website you recomend and are affiliated with. Want proof? Check out Joreg Sprave's Adder and Ferris weapons.

    • @amagenarypowers9313
      @amagenarypowers9313 3 года назад

      @@mementomori4972 I went on sparrows and it's not on there help

  • @CloroxBleach-cq7tj
    @CloroxBleach-cq7tj 3 года назад +882

    2 locks in 4 minutes, and he spends 1 min talking.
    Damm that poor author

    • @Zaapiel22
      @Zaapiel22 3 года назад +53

      Even worse, it's nearly 2 minutes before he moves the disks as far as they can go.

    • @cy-one
      @cy-one 3 года назад +17

      @@Zaapiel22 clockwise!

    • @marloso2
      @marloso2 3 года назад +21

      Still a good survival time, against LPL

    • @Nachtwind7
      @Nachtwind7 3 года назад +11

      that author was paid to write a kryptonite as, and he did so successfully.

    • @GGov86
      @GGov86 3 года назад +18

      @@Nachtwind7 Do you have a better recommendation, or are you just one of those cynical morons who thinks nothing is genuine anymore?

  • @kieranbennettmedia
    @kieranbennettmedia 3 года назад +6984

    "These tools are not hard to get, they are inexpensive, and the skills are easy to develop"
    Says the man who developed the tool in question, gave the design away to keep it inexpensive, and publishes widely watched how to videos ;)

    • @sergiplanas6427
      @sergiplanas6427 3 года назад +605

      Bike owner: 🥺🥺🥺😭😭😭😭😭

    • @granitedreamer3405
      @granitedreamer3405 3 года назад +718

      As much as I do enjoy these videos, that aspect of them has me baffled

    • @Shaoraka
      @Shaoraka 3 года назад +757

      @@granitedreamer3405 Right ? I do enjoy watching these, but every time he gives an easy trick to open a common lock i think "dude how many bikes are going to get stolen thanks to this".

    • @dreyvinnash
      @dreyvinnash 3 года назад +958

      @@Shaoraka there's actually a reason people do this. see, the idea is that if you show the companies what they did wrong, eventually they'll fix their crap. in the economy we have, doing this lights a fire under the lock company's ass. the more he does this, the tighter security will get, thus people's belongings will be safer. it's a "this is going to be hell for people today, but the people of the future are going to be better for it" kind of thing, it's much like exercise. it hurts now, but we'll all be better for it later.

    • @Shaoraka
      @Shaoraka 3 года назад +296

      @@dreyvinnash And I get that, no problem, it's just that I know for a fact that quite a few tricks he gave as far back as 1 or 2 years back are still usable simply because the companies don't care. If they even saw it, they didn't act on it.
      I absolutely support the idea, just sometimes it doesn't work and then it does the opposite.

  • @nickmuffin1722
    @nickmuffin1722 3 года назад +501

    NY article: "Nobody can open this lock"
    LPL: and I took it personally!

    • @yumri4
      @yumri4 3 года назад +4

      well that article might have caused those locks to become even less secure due to the NY article saying they are unpickable.

    • @nickmuffin1722
      @nickmuffin1722 3 года назад +2

      @@yumri4 yeah! Lol😂

    • @claritykey2960
      @claritykey2960 3 года назад +2

      Came here for this comment alone. :)

    • @poyed88
      @poyed88 3 года назад +4

      Never believe anything the NYT says. They are fake news.

    • @nickmuffin1722
      @nickmuffin1722 3 года назад +1

      @@poyed88 I think it's a trend with every "XYZ times" news.

  • @phoenixbloomfield8946
    @phoenixbloomfield8946 Год назад +130

    Honestly, at least around here, as long as the lock doesn't basically fall open the only thing that matters about it is how thick and hard the metal is. Bike theft is incredibly common and the locks are pretty much never picked; they're always broken into using bolt cutters or an angle grinder. Lock pick resistance doesn't matter a ton when you can cut any lock in under 5 minutes with a handheld battery operated angle grinder. Even if someone sees a thief in the act they're finished by the time cops show up (happened last year right outside my building).

    • @nicholaswood3250
      @nicholaswood3250 Год назад +15

      Essentially all bike locks function to be secure enough to force the sort of person who steals bikes to use an angle grinder.

    • @adameordogh3065
      @adameordogh3065 Год назад +7

      I had my kriptonite ev 4 u-lock picked in the ground floor garage of the condo... In Europe picking is not that uncommon.

    • @toonman361
      @toonman361 Год назад +1

      I am a bit skeptical that bike theft is "incredibly common." what kinds of bikes and what value?

    • @adameordogh3065
      @adameordogh3065 Год назад +15

      @@toonman361 In the past two years I have had a downhil bike stollen form our basement worth of 3000€ MSRP, a carbon road bike stolen near a train station at 2200 € MSRP Both of these were locked with krypronie ev. U-locks. I also had a 300€ MSRP fixie stolen also at a train station but it was locked with a less secure lock. All three of these thefts happened in Switzerland. I would say bike theft is quite common.

    • @JohnArktor
      @JohnArktor Год назад

      @@toonman361 just any bike. just any bike...

  • @tyroland06
    @tyroland06 3 года назад +1143

    NYT: "These are the best."
    LPL: And I took that personally...

    • @aserta
      @aserta 3 года назад +6

      NYT lied as easily as they didn't pay their line writers masquerading as journalists.

    • @Niskirin
      @Niskirin 3 года назад +3

      @@aserta NYT truly is the worst anime girl.

    • @BlackIndigenousPosse
      @BlackIndigenousPosse 3 года назад +1

      Why would he take it personally? A best lock does exist... Dipshit. Stop trying to force shitty memes into every comment that you write.

    • @AndrewWellsPlus
      @AndrewWellsPlus 3 года назад +8

      @@aserta It's not a lie, what's a better bike lock out there in the same price range? Plus if you read their articles, they say they're the best for "most consumers" not the best possible option out there.

    • @sr972
      @sr972 3 года назад +4

      @@BlackIndigenousPosse he took it personally cause they said they weren't pickable dipshit. And you know he's a lock picker.

  • @Grim_Beard
    @Grim_Beard 3 года назад +291

    04:12 So these locks _were_ fairly secure until LPL and Bosnian Bill designed and marketed a tool to defeat them.

    • @420jessw
      @420jessw 3 года назад +30

      There is other disc detainer picks on the market, most are more expensive though.

    • @cericat
      @cericat 3 года назад +12

      @@420jessw and often less versatile, the efforts BB and LPL put into the design and improving it made for what they saw as experienced pickers as necessary in a disc detainer pick makes for a very nice little pick that is easy to use and decode with compared to most other offerings.

    • @drudigger
      @drudigger 3 года назад

      You could use a 5 dollar one and just sand it down.

  • @9rune5
    @9rune5 3 года назад +323

    I would love to see a top-10 list of bike locks with good cores. I need to replace my old Master lock that LPL picked with a toothpick while blindfolded under water.

    • @phoule76
      @phoule76 Год назад +6

      the toothpick he designed with Bosnian Bill? that's a fine toothpick right there

    • @darkgtptitan
      @darkgtptitan Год назад +3

      You forgot the part about trying to break into the sharks bike while the shark was watching.

  • @scavengeriel
    @scavengeriel 3 года назад +302

    Imagine going to the locksmith and trying to find the "pick that Bosnian Bill and I made"

    • @TheEudaemonicPlague
      @TheEudaemonicPlague 3 года назад +10

      Imagine going to a locksmith and asking for *any* lockpicking tool. It used to be that it was pretty difficult to buy lockpicks in the US. Now?...easy as pie.

    • @mydemon
      @mydemon 3 года назад +4

      Imagine going to a store and asking for something that they're selling in the store.

    • @michaellinner7772
      @michaellinner7772 3 года назад +7

      Most locksmith's shops don't carry these types of tools for retail customers.
      I'm certain they have tons of them for their own usage but, selling them to prospective customers would defeat the function that the locksmith's provides.
      You don't want people doing everything for themselves that you can do for them for a price.

    • @JohnHoranzy
      @JohnHoranzy 3 года назад +10

      Imagine going to Wal-Mart to buy a bicycle and you leave with a Lithium Ion 4 inch disk grinder instead.

    • @hasan_z
      @hasan_z 2 года назад +2

      @@JohnHoranzy thats so funny and sad it makes me cry... as an ebike owner

  • @dildojizzbaggins6969
    @dildojizzbaggins6969 3 года назад +254

    he is so damn polite in his roasting.
    it's an art-form...

    • @philpeko1796
      @philpeko1796 3 года назад +1

      or just the quintessence of sadism...

    • @HansLasser
      @HansLasser 3 года назад +12

      He is a lawyer. He can imply things about your mom, dad and farm animals and it will still sound like a compliment 😎

    • @philpeko1796
      @philpeko1796 3 года назад +2

      @@HansLasser Well, his adventures regarding his girlfriend's backdoor breaking and entering didn't seem a so subtle choice of words ... [1071] Getting In My Ex-Girlfriend’s Back Door

    • @Damitsall
      @Damitsall 3 года назад +1

      It's shocking that he tries to defend a "professional journalist" who could have just used a Google search. Then ends up roasting them anyways. I mean seriously who expects anything less from the New York Trash?

    • @ARandomBoat
      @ARandomBoat 3 года назад

      @@philpeko1796 that was an April fools joke. It was meant to be obvious

  • @Tgbec
    @Tgbec 3 года назад +721

    The comments section on the NYT site, “have you seen this vid”.

    • @galloway_joseph
      @galloway_joseph 3 года назад +185

      They disabled comments on the article lolololol

    • @DatBoiOrly
      @DatBoiOrly 3 года назад +26

      @@galloway_joseph oof that sucks

    • @74jojo
      @74jojo 3 года назад +90

      Not everyone can take being questioned or getting critique. 😉😄

    • @brownro214
      @brownro214 3 года назад +81

      @@74jojo Especially the New York Times

    • @torbenmayer
      @torbenmayer 3 года назад +18

      @@galloway_joseph Not true, just accept the cookies

  • @roybatty-
    @roybatty- 3 года назад +186

    Clearly your picking skills are in the top 1% tier. If bike thieves had your skills, they would not be bike thieves. The yellow lock saved my bicycle from theft vs an angle grinder.

    • @sideshow101101
      @sideshow101101 3 года назад +39

      I have the yellow one too, and i agree someone with the skills to pick it this quickly woud be targeting much higher value things than bikes or motorbikes.

    • @squiglemcsquigle8414
      @squiglemcsquigle8414 3 года назад +15

      You clearly dont watch his videos a lot do you? When he reviewed these individually he stated quite clearly they are very resitant to angle grinders

    • @DarkMatterX1
      @DarkMatterX1 3 года назад +31

      @@sideshow101101
      LPL is a seasoned lockpicker. He's picked thousands, if not tens of thousands of different types of lock cores. Even with that, it took him 40 seconds to open the orange one. Someone without his level of skill and prowess would take a great deal of time to open this lock, if they could even do it at all.

    • @IronKnee963
      @IronKnee963 3 года назад +17

      You would be surprised at how talented criminals can be.

    • @ghjgjihjgjyrdrgydsgr137
      @ghjgjihjgjyrdrgydsgr137 2 года назад +1

      Strongly agree, nice to hear this about the lock.

  • @s0nofp2l
    @s0nofp2l 2 года назад +88

    I have these locks for my bike ( along with a Dutch wheel lock) it is actually quite reassuring that it would take someone with this level of skill this long to get them both off.

    • @oliveringram3056
      @oliveringram3056 Год назад +5

      And bike thieves will probably steal a bike that hasn't got one of these locks first.

    • @manoz6194
      @manoz6194 10 месяцев назад +2

      After my ebike was stolen, I wouldn't trust a Krptonite lock again, they can be cut very quickly with angle grinders.

    • @ccederlo
      @ccederlo 4 месяца назад

      ​@@manoz6194 What did you determine works better?

    • @manoz6194
      @manoz6194 4 месяца назад +1

      @ccederlo I got a Litelok X1. Hiplock also do one called the D1000 but the Litelok shackle has more room

  • @-Raylight
    @-Raylight 3 года назад +419

    I guess you could say Kryptonite's Kryptonite is *_"the pick that BosnianBill and he made"_*

    • @_vicary
      @_vicary 3 года назад +6

      It's "The pick that BosnianBill and *I* made".

    • @imprincesswolfy2565
      @imprincesswolfy2565 3 года назад

      @@_vicary did you make it?

    • @eldinmekic3756
      @eldinmekic3756 3 года назад +4

      @@imprincesswolfy2565 well that's why it's written in quotes...

  • @asailijhijr
    @asailijhijr 3 года назад +485

    Hello, this is The Lockpicking Lawyer and I'm in an unmarked room of an unmarked building...

    • @tcpratt1660
      @tcpratt1660 3 года назад +19

      ...playing this tape recorder that will self-destruct in five seconds after it finishes playing...

    • @mikehawk3472
      @mikehawk3472 3 года назад +12

      Im pretty sure both the room and the building were marked, or they would have been if the story were true. Like the building has an address, and they probably (didnt) meet in room 3b. That story is complete BS.

    • @RobloxLevelDude
      @RobloxLevelDude 3 года назад +8

      @@mikehawk3472 I'm assuming "unmarked room of an unmarked building" meant that the author of the article didn't specify what conference it was or where it was, not literally an unmarked room in an unmarked building

    • @HaloInverse
      @HaloInverse 3 года назад +7

      "I didn't have keys for this building or this room, but the locks were very common."

  • @thishandleistacken
    @thishandleistacken Год назад +5

    Was just sold the orange lock and the guy told me it was "basically unbreakable and unpickable". Thank you for letting me know I need to be more safe about where (and how long) I leave my locked bike than I recently have been. At least I also use a secondary wheel lock.

  • @thomasmoyses7288
    @thomasmoyses7288 Год назад

    Wow, what a great "how to" demonstrattion. I bought this tool too and tried several hours to to pick my own locks too (same products). Finaly your way, how you exactly grab and handle the lock and tool was the key !! Thanks a lot

  • @muhammadabdulrehman1540
    @muhammadabdulrehman1540 3 года назад +324

    LPL recognizing the efforts of writers and going easy on them.

    • @peglor
      @peglor 3 года назад +28

      Just adding some common sense to the equation really. There is no better product for the money in the bike lock space that I'm aware of. There's stuff out there that's as good, but nothing better.

    • @FungusMossGnosis
      @FungusMossGnosis 3 года назад

      @@peglor For ones you can buy in stores, Abus Granit X-Plus 540 is generally better rated. And there are several custom made bike locks in the $100-200 range that are better than that.

    • @FungusMossGnosis
      @FungusMossGnosis 3 года назад

      Although I looked it up and LPL picked the ABUS with his special tool in about 58 seconds!

    • @KNHSynths
      @KNHSynths 3 года назад

      it's the wise word of the lawyer, he doesn't want to have to deal with an NYT lawsuit . But we can feel what he thinks and what he won't say today...

    • @tylerjmast
      @tylerjmast 3 года назад +2

      @@KNHSynths A lawsuit? For what? Criticizing? Contradicting? Newspapers aren't nearly as litigious as you seem to think.

  • @jfrtwo
    @jfrtwo 3 года назад +166

    Wirecutter does a good job at picking a really good option for most of the public, most of the time. You did good job explaining the fallability of Wirecutter, too, all while stating they had a tough job. I'm still thinking that most thieves don't carry your tool with them. Good job!

    • @lairdcummings9092
      @lairdcummings9092 3 года назад +18

      Most are carrying bolt cutters or battery-powered saws.

    • @dirkkoenig6122
      @dirkkoenig6122 3 года назад +17

      I really love Wirecutter and trust when they say "this is the best value...(whatever)". I also appreciate LPL ensuring that I understand lock security is just a matter of time, skill, tools and level of destruction...

    • @yt650
      @yt650 3 года назад +2

      There are a lot of bicycles for sale in the area where I live and it looks like there’s a bicycle for every child in this area both size and style. I know for a fact the individual selling them does not buy them one at a time off of people he buys them off of people from a large city 8 or 10 at a time from people who do carry tools, I also think from people who have plausible deny-ability. Happens a lot along the coast where there are tourists and on the East Coast the bikes come out of major cities like New York city.

    • @terravarious
      @terravarious 3 года назад +17

      @@lairdcummings9092 Fastbikes did a test years ago with a couple motorcycle thieves that had been released from jail. They opened even lock in less than 30 second with a 10 ton porta power. The only thing they avoided was a disk lock because you couldn't get the portapower ram on it. Cordless grinders render those useless, but make noise. The advantage of the porta power is that it's also quiet.
      At the end of the test they apologized for being so slow, but the ram the editor supplied was a sloppy piece of crap.
      The only reason to pick a lock is to cover up the fact that it was opened. There is almost always a low skill brute force attack to any lock.

    • @lairdcummings9092
      @lairdcummings9092 3 года назад +3

      @@terravarious exactly. Brute force is crude, but fast.
      Grinders and saws are noisy, but portable, concealable, cheap, and fast enough. A portable hydraulic cutter is faster and quieter, but heavier, and a more difficult to conceal.
      Trade-off; you choose your target, style, and tool.

  • @BikeGuyFPV
    @BikeGuyFPV 3 года назад +37

    Kryptonite higher ups are screaming after seeing this guy effortlessly pick their bike locks.

    • @kenziebalhatchet3918
      @kenziebalhatchet3918 3 года назад +1

      Nah they’re not because I doubt they’re putting much effort into it

    • @Adamar454
      @Adamar454 2 года назад +1

      he did the same thing a few years ago and nothing has changed, except with this tool picking them is even quicker lmao

  • @flemmingpedersen567
    @flemmingpedersen567 3 года назад +22

    I like this guy: In a roundabout way he tells other lockpickers, they should buy his lockpick, to be wellrounded, then he tells bicycle thieves that they need to buy his lockpick, which could lead to more work for him as a lawyer (if he does criminal law) and finally he implys that the lock producing company should hire him to consult on how to make better locks, and he is nice about it.

  • @MandyFlame
    @MandyFlame 3 года назад +208

    At this point I’m like one of Pavlov’s dogs and start salivating when the phrase “disc detainer” is uttered ... building up the tension waiting for “turn everything clockwise” and finally the payoff “TDDPTBBAIM”

    • @kaldo_kaldo
      @kaldo_kaldo 3 года назад +10

      TDDPTBBAIM how sweet the sound, that saved a wretch like meee

    • @kinokos8980
      @kinokos8980 3 года назад +3

      Yes. Thats exactly it

    • @viquezug3936
      @viquezug3936 3 года назад

      Wdym by TDDPTBBAIM

    • @MandyFlame
      @MandyFlame 3 года назад +3

      @@viquezug3936 “the disk detainer pick that Bosnian Bill and I made” is a frequently appearing tool on this channel

    • @kaldo_kaldo
      @kaldo_kaldo 3 года назад

      @@viquezug3936 The disc detainer pick that Bosnian Bill and I made

  • @PH1LZ
    @PH1LZ 3 года назад +246

    Kryptonite: *I fear no man*
    Kryptonite _looking at the tool that Bosnian Bill and LPL made_
    Kryptonite: *but that thing, it scares me*

    • @Oscar-vs5yw
      @Oscar-vs5yw 3 года назад +2

      :O one of these that are actually mentioning an object, *finally*

    • @samiraperi467
      @samiraperi467 3 года назад +1

      Kryptonite's kryptonite.

    • @IcecalGamer
      @IcecalGamer 3 года назад

      It's "The pick that BosnianBill and I made".

  • @sethadling3043
    @sethadling3043 3 года назад +15

    You: my phone broke
    Your friend: it looks perfectly fine to me
    You: well I don’t have the right charger

    • @aureliandumanovschi4023
      @aureliandumanovschi4023 3 года назад

      This is what most manufacturers do, right? A capacitor broke, manufacturer says it's unrepairable, you have to order a replacement mainboard with cpu, gpu, ram, and flash on it, basically 60% of a computer. While at Louis Rossman it costs 20$ to replace the capacitor.

    • @Reelix
      @Reelix 3 года назад

      iPhone: You'll have to buy a new $50 charger
      Android: Don't worry - I have 20 other devices lying around the place that use the exact same charger standard so I'm sure I have one lying around

  • @larsmarienlund690
    @larsmarienlund690 Год назад +2

    Thanks for making this video. I just bought one of those locks for over $100 so I’m a little upset but I’m glad you gave me the knowledge.

  • @codeblueisblue
    @codeblueisblue 3 года назад +536

    "It's like taking your car to a mechanic who doesn't have the right wrench sizes, and concluding that your car can't be fixed."
    Lol

    • @unicornpower2411
      @unicornpower2411 3 года назад +1

      Pretty much

    • @ivan_pozdeev_u
      @ivan_pozdeev_u 3 года назад +8

      Well, if most mechanics don't have it, that makes it pretty tricky to have your car fixed.

    • @frightenedsoul
      @frightenedsoul 3 года назад +7

      @@ivan_pozdeev_u tricky but not hard to find someone who does have the tool needed

    • @blackmber
      @blackmber 3 года назад

      I feel like this actually happens a lot, but more often with individual parts and not the entire car. It definitely happens with bike parts, electronics, and home appliances.

    • @Anonymous4045
      @Anonymous4045 3 года назад

      I mean a pick that’s relatively cheap and available on Amazon isn’t exactly a collectors item, this shouldn’t be marketed as pickproof it it is

  • @draftnotion
    @draftnotion 3 года назад +360

    I bought the one on the right, well aware of it's weakness to picking. However whenever locking a bike it's good practice to orientate the key hole downward (close to the ground) and in an awkward position such as next to the frame so that it is difficult to get hands or tools infront of the keyhole, and taking purchase on two parts of the frame so that the lock can't be rotated more horizontal.

    • @tpv59
      @tpv59 2 года назад +6

      SMART.

    • @aayotechnology
      @aayotechnology 2 года назад +9

      Is there a video somewhere of what you described?

    • @charlesrodriguez491
      @charlesrodriguez491 2 года назад +27

      @@aayotechnology probably varies by bike. When you lock your bike up, consider what you’re locking it to, and how you can make it inconvenient for a thief to steal. Anything that would make them spend more time, or cause them a hassle would make them inclined to find an easier target.

    • @rdkbialek
      @rdkbialek Год назад +1

      @@charlesrodriguez491 if is close to the ground they can easily open by metal scissors ;). Doesn't matter how hard is you lock. They will step on the metal scissors and cut it ;)

    • @onthelake9554
      @onthelake9554 Год назад +8

      @@rdkbialek Not that lock , it won't fit and it won't cut it .

  • @NiNjaTurtLe697
    @NiNjaTurtLe697 3 года назад

    Thanks for evaluating the article! I read them all the time!

  • @wd5jlr
    @wd5jlr 2 года назад

    Thank you for this eye opener. Very helpful.

  • @Master0fHyrule
    @Master0fHyrule 3 года назад +1544

    I would like you see you pick a lock with a paper clip... I know for some locks it's very easy. I've done it myself after a bit of patience.

    • @Imurai
      @Imurai 3 года назад +44

      he has, search his videos!

    • @bertvdlast
      @bertvdlast 3 года назад +162

      @Apache Longbow. I guess a chickenbone that he and LPL designed.

    • @SydBat
      @SydBat 3 года назад +12

      @@bertvdlast - underrated comment

    • @jpe1
      @jpe1 3 года назад +43

      Did you see the one where he picked a lock using just a piece of condom wrapper? (It was the lock for a chastity cage, he was using something that might be handy in that situation)

    • @roninnder
      @roninnder 3 года назад +9

      He definitely has done this. I’ve also seen him pick a lock with a lego man.

  • @huldu
    @huldu 3 года назад +131

    When he picks the locks faster than I've seen some people open them with a regular key... that's just scary.

    • @bengerber4542
      @bengerber4542 3 года назад +8

      Joke's on him, my old kryptonite is so beat up that it takes 30 tries to open it with the key. I can't imagine trying to pick that

    • @jimsmart2522
      @jimsmart2522 3 года назад +3

      @@bengerber4542 I’m not sure your assumption that a pick would be slower is correct here

    • @BladeofThamuz
      @BladeofThamuz 3 года назад

      @@bengerber4542 get some graphite for that lock. A little bit of grease could take you a long way.

    • @niklasholgerson3779
      @niklasholgerson3779 3 года назад +2

      One time it took me so long to open my lock with the key that I walked away because people started to look warily. Luckily I managed to open it 15 minutes later :D

  • @ilovephotography1254
    @ilovephotography1254 3 года назад +1

    I feel that you were being polite and generous to the NYT journalist who wrote the article...
    ...I hope that the Times journalist gets a chance to watch your library of videos.

  • @deningman
    @deningman 2 года назад +1

    Wow, this this site looks fantastic for training thieves up on different locks. 4 million plus subscribers!!

  • @mattstanford9673
    @mattstanford9673 3 года назад +163

    "Disc-detainer core."
    Oop. He's gonna say it. =D

    • @eriklarson9137
      @eriklarson9137 3 года назад +4

      It's so heart-warming.

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue 3 года назад +9

      "The first thing we're going to do is rotate all the discs as far _clockwise_ as they will go..."
      HE SAID IT! HE SAID IT!

    • @bernier42
      @bernier42 3 года назад +2

      *Thumbnail of two Kryptonite bike locks*
      He’s gonna say it.

  • @meetim2931
    @meetim2931 3 года назад +196

    When will we get the unpickable lock made by Stuff Made Here?

    • @lockpickinglawyer
      @lockpickinglawyer  3 года назад +305

      I haven’t received it. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @dantepalazzo
      @dantepalazzo 3 года назад +23

      Damn! I’m waiting for that too!

    • @Mountain-Man-3000
      @Mountain-Man-3000 3 года назад +14

      Yes, I eagerly am anticipating that video.

    • @imbadatgames568
      @imbadatgames568 3 года назад +17

      I think he was going to make an improved version first but I could be wrong

    • @paulmccoy2908
      @paulmccoy2908 3 года назад +37

      Designing and building a novel unpickable lock is a huge mountain to climb. He’s up against the cumulative experience of 150 years of financially-motivated lock designers. I bet it’s turned him into a reclusive basement troll.

  • @epidemicstudios
    @epidemicstudios 2 года назад +11

    Thank you for keeping tools used to steal bikes nice and cheap.

  • @neolexiousneolexian6079
    @neolexiousneolexian6079 3 года назад +4

    I own one of these locks. That article was written before any picks for them were available. I watched with growing concern as LPL brought his disk detainer pick to market.

  • @moh-ban8141
    @moh-ban8141 3 года назад +81

    He sounds like a dentist when they are checking your teeth.

    • @jrock2085
      @jrock2085 3 года назад +3

      Especially at 2:29

    • @kaldo_kaldo
      @kaldo_kaldo 3 года назад +2

      So many people say this. My dentists have never chatted with me. It's just like "Hi Nick, let me jam this needle in your gums and start cutting immediately with a dead serious face"

    • @steviesevieria1868
      @steviesevieria1868 3 года назад

      @@kaldo_kaldo lmao

    • @justaman2024
      @justaman2024 3 года назад

      Click out of first canine, click out of two… number three feels loose 😂😂😂😂

  • @Tyiriel
    @Tyiriel 3 года назад +85

    LPL: There's nothing inherently tricky about these locks..
    Kryptonite: WE MADE IT PAST 4 MINUTES BOYS!

    • @martinqizeaq
      @martinqizeaq 3 года назад +21

      Also Kryptonite: oh! 2 locks. Never mind then.

    • @sr972
      @sr972 3 года назад +4

      2 locks and a 1 min intro.

  • @bozobergfun4340
    @bozobergfun4340 Год назад +5

    I love how he makes tools and gives tips for locksmiths and regular citizens, but at the same time he is giving criminals the exact right tools and the best tips and skills to pick locks.

  • @cyborgzulu2011
    @cyborgzulu2011 11 месяцев назад +3

    I know this was two years ago but i need a recommendation for a bike lock and this dude is the first place to go

  • @ConstantlyDamaged
    @ConstantlyDamaged 3 года назад +229

    Just adding some false gates would be a game-changer. Why don't they do that, since they're already stamping/pressing the discs already?

    • @aserta
      @aserta 3 года назад +39

      That's not how you make money. You make money by selling locks, not heirloom fortresses.

    • @packetjanitor
      @packetjanitor 3 года назад +18

      The lock pick way around this lock is fast. A small hydraulic cutter is faster. The only benefit to picking a bike lock is if you could rekey and sell it with the bike.

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 3 года назад +4

      @@packetjanitor What locks would withstand that cutter anyway?

    • @jon_j__
      @jon_j__ 3 года назад +46

      @@packetjanitor If you can pick the lock relatively quickly, you're less likely to attract attention from passers-by - the lockpick is shielded from sight and you look like just another bike user struggling with a badly-lubricated or rusty lock.

    • @lairdcummings9092
      @lairdcummings9092 3 года назад +17

      @@samarthprabhu5214 1) have to halt the production line 2) change the tooling 3) gain little or no additional sales for their trouble
      The general public (the vast majority of their sales) doesn't know, or care, about the difference.

  • @Sharingan112
    @Sharingan112 3 года назад +97

    LPL: "There are both reasonable locks, that I think represent a decent security value"
    Kryptonite CEO: Stonks!!

  • @capisenior
    @capisenior 2 года назад +2

    Biggest nightmare: wake up during the night to some noise in my front door 'click out of two... click out of four...'

  • @eliuscha
    @eliuscha 3 года назад +2

    In your videos you are giving very exact instructions to the thiefs, with all necessary details. So this is educational video for non-professional thiefs. You could deliver the information in different way without doing such a harm!

    • @afterthesmash
      @afterthesmash 4 месяца назад

      Welcome to Security by Obscurity 101. Because knowledge on the Internet is easily suppressed.

  • @terry2295
    @terry2295 3 года назад +32

    thanks to this channel I started lockpicking myself

    • @muffinlord99
      @muffinlord99 3 года назад +6

      Wait... what.

    • @Joe_Mama.also_YTHandlessuckass
      @Joe_Mama.also_YTHandlessuckass 3 года назад +4

      ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    • @terry2295
      @terry2295 3 года назад

      @@Braveskin not sure out of my head I just recently got a starterset with simple tools and a few looks for my birthday haven't really started yet either

  • @flashish
    @flashish 3 года назад +24

    When you're 3 minutes into a 4.5 minute video and he hasn't started picking either lock yet.

  • @kdawg3484
    @kdawg3484 2 года назад +16

    This is under the "Why you should trust us" section of that article:
    "In addition, we made arrangements to get in touch with a lock-picking group, and we visited on a night with a presentation on high-security disc-detainer locks. The meeting was in an unmarked room in an unmarked building, and everyone who gave a presentation used their Def Con code names."
    Nothing more trustworthy than unnamed sources in unnamed locations. A clandestine visit to a secret lockpicking group while apparently not taking a couple seconds to go look up disc detainer locks on RUclips.

  • @bluebird3670
    @bluebird3670 3 года назад +3

    You picking locks reminds me of getting my eye glasses prescription at the eye doctor. “Click out of one, one, two, two feels good”

    • @manarazor4782
      @manarazor4782 3 года назад

      Yasss same “number one and number two, number one and number 2 ok great number 3 and number 4”

  • @WardenWolf
    @WardenWolf 3 года назад +21

    One key thing to remember here is that, with normal locks, they can often be picked using rudimentary tools. Even a bent paperclip can often be used as a lockpick, and a small screwdriver as a tensioning wrench, or a simple rake / bump attack. Disc detainer cores have the advantage that they require a special pick to open; they CANNOT be picked with improvised tools.

    • @ionstorm66
      @ionstorm66 2 года назад +1

      Fyi you can totally pick a disk detainer locks with bent paperclips of the same quality of pin tumbler locks you can pick with the same. I have picked cheap disk locks by cutting a notch in the tip of a turning tool on disk one and using a bent paperclips flag to turn the disks.

  • @PierceThirlen2
    @PierceThirlen2 3 года назад +11

    What they don't tell you is that the black keyhole cover will collect water and freeze up solid. To use this lock in the winter you need to remove the keyhole cover assembly and use a piece of inner tube over the keyhole. You also need to disassemble the lock, grease the latches with synthetic grease, thin out the synthetic grease with mineral spirts and then inject the mixture into the keyhole. The mineral spirits will evaporate and leave the synthetic grease inside the lock and help protect it from freezing up. (I say this from experience.) If you don't do this your lock will freeze up! Graphite does NOT work!!! FYI, I have the NEW YORK FAHGETTABOUDIT MINI. I had problems with the lock freezing up until I greased it as described.

    • @candidmoe8741
      @candidmoe8741 3 года назад

      Or use your car ...

    • @rookjameson
      @rookjameson 3 года назад +1

      @@candidmoe8741 Brilliant idea! As a nice side-effect, global worming will then also solve the icing issue once and for all!

    • @IcecalGamer
      @IcecalGamer 3 года назад

      👍👍MORE Thumbs UP pls for this comment! A good man that took the time to write an actual good guide unlike NYT. (i dont have the lock and dont need something like it but can appreciate the comment nor the less)

    • @solitudessilentgroove
      @solitudessilentgroove 3 года назад

      I've been able to unfreeze locks by putting my mouth over the keyhole and blowing into it.
      Not ideal but can work in a pinch.

    • @PierceThirlen2
      @PierceThirlen2 3 года назад

      @@solitudessilentgroove The keyhole cover freezing is only part of the issue. I'v had the latches freeze up, which takes considerably more heat to unfreeze. That is when I started using synthetic grease on the latches and haven't had a problem since.

  • @richitrx7
    @richitrx7 2 года назад +3

    Great content, you should make lock recommendation videos for different uses if you haven't already.

  • @izzyanderson
    @izzyanderson 3 года назад +24

    You're able to pick these locks quickly in a quiet relaxed environment. I'd be curious how quick you or bike thieves can pick these locks in an outdoor space with people around, city noise, and the threat of the bike owner returning at any moment.

    • @etoradamaley4713
      @etoradamaley4713 2 года назад +13

      You'd be surprised how little stress a bike thief is under. Watching videos of undercover bike theft videos, you get to see how brazen and nonchalant they are. Partly because no one besides the actual owner of the bike cares while they pull, cut, and jostle making all kinds of noise. Also, if/when the owner shows up, they just walk away. You can make a scene, call them out, but good luck detaining them. Cops treat bike theft like it's a low level crime and that plays into their mentality.

    • @deborahrooks4462
      @deborahrooks4462 2 года назад +3

      @@etoradamaley4713 i agree...u just need 3 methods to lock bike...u lock,cable lock n alarm thats the best way if your in a grocery store n will be there over 15 minutes

    • @adaboy4z
      @adaboy4z 2 года назад +2

      All the bike theft videos I've watched nobody picked the lock. They used bolt cutters or a strong pull on flimsy 🔐. So these two locks would deter a thief.

  • @VillPom
    @VillPom 3 года назад +12

    You could honestly pick these in broad daylight, and if people asked, you could convince them that was the key that came with the lock and it’s just tough to use.

  • @theoriginalchefboyoboy6025
    @theoriginalchefboyoboy6025 3 года назад +16

    I always admire how these videos seem to be done in one take. If that's true, that's quite a feat as they are so smooth and detailed. If it's not true, can we please get a blooper reel this coming April first?

  • @BDPershing
    @BDPershing Год назад

    LPL is like my go to channel for info about security locks.

  • @-MacCat-
    @-MacCat- 3 года назад +1

    Disc Pick, aka Sparrows Disc Detainer Lock Pick Set by Bosnian Bill & LPL and who knows how many other names it goes by is ~$55 - $125, according to a quick search I just did, when they're available.
    These two guys are the bane of anyone that dares think or say or market that their lock(s) are unpickable, and we enjoy them showing us their skills.

  • @digitaIgorilla
    @digitaIgorilla 3 года назад +17

    All you need for this type of bicycle lock is a specialised pick tool. Here's one I designed earlier. (with Bosnian Bill)

  • @TheRetsehc
    @TheRetsehc 3 года назад +7

    So the question is: Have you contact NYT with a link to this video and offered to be a consultant on any lock-related matters for them?

  • @sealthrux
    @sealthrux 3 года назад +11

    Can you start a series where you show us the best type of locks for every use ? It would be interesting

    • @ivan_pozdeev_u
      @ivan_pozdeev_u 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/L6iMmCSayBQ/видео.html

  • @prorace_type_r
    @prorace_type_r 2 года назад +1

    Nice to see someone that puts himself in others place and understands their situation.

  • @SevenToes2007
    @SevenToes2007 3 года назад +5

    The "New-York-forget-about-it"-lock. Hilarious!

  • @MinistryOfMagic_DoM
    @MinistryOfMagic_DoM 3 года назад +21

    Even though LPL crushes these locks super quick, most people aren't walking around with the pick Bosnian Bill and LPL made and even of those who are few have the skill to use it. These locks are still solid excellent choices.

    • @jimfeldman4035
      @jimfeldman4035 3 года назад +11

      The skill most people should worry about is cordless angle grinders

    • @cmmartti
      @cmmartti 3 года назад +2

      @@jimfeldman4035 Yeah, absolutely no one is going to pick a bike lock when those exist for so cheap. In other words, the key hole is not the weakpoint of these locks.

    • @sadbread2446
      @sadbread2446 3 года назад

      @@cmmartti LPL has already covered in other videos that these locks specifically are also really resistant to angle-grinders, so if that's the concern then these are really solid picks.

    • @cmmartti
      @cmmartti 3 года назад

      @@sadbread2446 They are also resistant to jack attacks because of their small size.

  • @Douglas-qs5br
    @Douglas-qs5br Год назад

    Thanks because i have lost 9 bikes in a year to thieving bike thieves...i appreciate you sharing this information and experiences...it sure has helped me in a positive way...thanks again...

  • @GrandSyzygy
    @GrandSyzygy Год назад

    Thanks so much for the information. Do you plan on doing a Hiplok d1000 video?

  • @saiyajedi
    @saiyajedi 3 года назад +6

    I have the Kryptonite Evolution along with a chain lock (the Hiplok Gold, which is hefty although I’m not sold on the core itself - would love to see a review!). As part of an overall security strategy it’s not a bad choice, though anything is more vulnerable on its own. Remember, it’s about outrunning the other campers, not the bear.

  • @ChimaeraTom
    @ChimaeraTom 3 года назад +11

    i own a Kryptonite evo chain lock for my bike and based my purchase off of this channel. at some point did LPL recommended it because it seemed "good enough" compared to a lot of other brands.
    Strangely enough this video made me feel even better about it. you need a special tool to pick it, very rare among thieves and not common even among locksmiths :)

  • @tamasmihaly1
    @tamasmihaly1 2 года назад +5

    It's thanks partly to people like you that in the future we will have such incredible locks. You're pushing the state-of-the-art forward by showcasing their flaws. Companies will have to advance.

    • @maxw5229
      @maxw5229 2 года назад +1

      He's pushing both sides and locks will be picked forever. The only thing useful ist the entertainment and the satisfaction when the lock opens :)

  • @fall22123
    @fall22123 Год назад +8

    I remember years ago disc detainer locks were "unpickable". So you and BB design a tool to pick them. Now they're easily picked. That being said, do you feel you're having a positive impact on the world? Just asking.

    • @cron410
      @cron410 7 месяцев назад

      They were never "unpickable" unless you're buying the propaganda along with the lock. The tools have been around for a while. They just designed a nicer one.

  • @joegrycowski211
    @joegrycowski211 3 года назад +60

    Instead of reading books to my kids at bedtime, I am gonna start an LPL playlist going and let his pleasant voice sooth them to sleep.

    • @tcpratt1660
      @tcpratt1660 3 года назад +1

      Thanks for the idea...I will try that tonight for myself :)

    • @cameronjadewallace
      @cameronjadewallace 3 года назад

      Lord knows it's how I pass out

    • @KF1
      @KF1 3 года назад +5

      Your kids will be eating their breakfast cereal paying careful attention to each spoonful.
      kid muttering to self: "Nice crunch on one..."

    • @hasan_z
      @hasan_z 2 года назад +1

      "daddy for my b'day can i get the lockpick that lpl and bosnianbill made?"

  • @ivanhunter6492
    @ivanhunter6492 3 года назад +14

    NYT: "these are the best"
    LPL: "are you sure about that?"

    • @AndrewWellsPlus
      @AndrewWellsPlus 3 года назад +1

      It's actually phrased as, "Best for most people" and for whatever is being reviewed it's based on quality, functionality and price. Even LPL says they're good value.

  • @TheExonalex
    @TheExonalex 3 года назад

    @lockpicking lawyer i would like to see how extreme emergency lockpicking you can do... I mean with paperclip 📎 or other common tools... We see a lot in movies... But you are the only one that can tell us if this is possible with modern lock. Thanks

  • @grndzro777
    @grndzro777 3 года назад +38

    Considering how long it took LPL to defeat these with a custom tool I would be fairly confident in picking either one of these.

    • @KF1
      @KF1 3 года назад +15

      I chose to read that twice. Something seemed off but I couldn't pick what.

    • @momoware
      @momoware Год назад +1

      @@KF1 Same the first time it reads like he is a better picker than LPL.

    • @KF1
      @KF1 Год назад

      @@momoware Yeah, which is unlikely, but not impossible.
      I've been practicing here, I can do Masterlocks easy, but not American Locks like the series 50. Much respect for LPL's abilities, takes a lot of feel.

  • @peteg8888
    @peteg8888 3 года назад +6

    *Group of lock-picking experts - "This lock is unpickable". *Lock-picking lawyer - "Hold my beer"

  • @Kleiner_Lutz
    @Kleiner_Lutz 3 года назад +45

    Whenever you do these videos I can't help myself but see a thief picking the lock, mumbling "click out of 3, 4 feels loose..." 😂

    • @ivan_pozdeev_u
      @ivan_pozdeev_u 3 года назад +8

      **looks into his phone** "...Okay, what does he do next?.."

  • @antebp98
    @antebp98 2 года назад +1

    It's surprisingly satisfying to watch him pick locks

  • @purpleether5405
    @purpleether5405 3 года назад +58

    How many bike thieves pick locks? These are opportunist drug addicts most of the time. They look for the cheapest lock and cut it. When they see that yellow tank of a lock they don't start picking it, they move on to something else.

    • @natemueller3051
      @natemueller3051 3 года назад +5

      It's still not pick proof. That's misleading. It's just not gonna be picked by a guy who's using a bobby pin and a paper clip

    • @TheEudaemonicPlague
      @TheEudaemonicPlague 3 года назад +5

      I guess you're unfamiliar with the organized bike thieves. When I was young, there was a ring of bike thieves making life hell for us cyclists around here. It took years for the authorities to shut them down. It was probably them who stole one of mine bikes...but then, I didn't have the good sense to lock it to something immovable, so anyone with a vehicle large enough to toss a bike into could've done it.

    • @Dies1r4e
      @Dies1r4e 3 года назад +5

      @@TheEudaemonicPlague lord you cops sucked, wrench, GPS tracker, slide it down the tube of a bike and wait, cost me 185 bucks (counting a cheap bike lock) and about five hours of my life, dropped a tip off got my buddies bike back laughed as the police came and shut them down.

    • @c0llision771
      @c0llision771 3 года назад

      @@Dies1r4e where did you get a battery powered gps tracker that would fit in the tube? I've been searching for a while, all I found were kickstarters that never shipped or chinese ones that dont work.

    • @Dies1r4e
      @Dies1r4e 3 года назад +1

      @@c0llision771 look up ones that are suppose to mount to dog collars, its what I used. I had some other friends want to chip their bikes too, one of them had a weird carbon fiber affair that had a diamond shape so the round fob didn't fit down it, so I took the casing apart, found a bit of PVC that would fit the guts and the frame then put it back together inside and slid the whole thing in. you can also mount them inside the under side of the seats on most bikes.

  • @realbarries
    @realbarries 3 года назад +124

    Group of ‘professional’ lock-pickers: “Yeah, this can’t be picked.”
    LPL: “Hold my scotch.”

    • @peterkelley6344
      @peterkelley6344 3 года назад +3

      It ought to be more like: Excuse me. I was not invited ... .

  • @hunszaszist
    @hunszaszist 3 года назад +34

    "These are the cheapest quality disk detainer pick-"
    Wait, that's not the pick you and BosnianBill-
    "-it's the one that BosnianBill and I designed-"
    \*throws money at the screen*

  • @Devast8r34
    @Devast8r34 3 года назад

    I love your knowledge thank you for sharing

  • @Random-ed2xf
    @Random-ed2xf 10 месяцев назад

    And thank you for designing the tool for us.

  • @feedmyintellect
    @feedmyintellect 3 года назад +69

    LPL is single handedly pushing the lock industry to do better and that is freaking awesome!!!

    • @Elmojomo
      @Elmojomo 3 года назад +10

      Except...are they really? How much actual change are we seeing across the lock landscape, and how much of this info is just being used by criminals to make their jobs that much easier? LPL comments often about how lock design generally has stagnated for the past 100+ years.

    • @Djorgal
      @Djorgal 3 года назад +2

      He's also giving easy how tos for would be thieves. That's doing both.
      To Elmo, lock designs doesn't really need to change. There are very good known designs, but there are also lots of mistakes that manufacturers can make. Educating manufacturer in good lock designs would make locks much more secure, even without reinventing the wheel.

    • @MybeautifulandamazingPrincess
      @MybeautifulandamazingPrincess 2 года назад +6

      He's selling lock picking tools. It's like a arms dealer arming criminals. Yet you're fanboying for him. How can people be so pifitul?
      Why are you purposely ignoring that and trying to make him look like a good guy?
      Teaching how to pick locks isn't freaking awesome. It's a scummy thing to do, and you're one too for idolizing him

    • @feedmyintellect
      @feedmyintellect 2 года назад +1

      @@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess You would be right, except it 8s people like him who push the lock industry to make better locks.
      No lock will not do good things for any good people if criminals can pick or bypass it with much ease.
      The end result of his work is that we will have better locks and we will be safer.
      And I suggest you buy his lock picking tools.
      If you could pick any of your locks with simple raking or with a bump key,you need better locks.
      You are living under an illusion of safety.

    • @piworower
      @piworower 2 года назад +1

      this isnt fixing a flaw this is making an attack available.

  • @sazkatest364
    @sazkatest364 3 года назад +18

    1:42 is the part we all love

  • @jmorrison973
    @jmorrison973 3 года назад +1

    I love and hate these videos. I bought an ebike and immediately started looking for recommendations for a good lock on RUclips. I came across the LPL and it seems like there is not any good locks, I don’t think he has ever not been able to pick a lock. So 2 years later I still have not bought a lock, and when I ride I never leave the bike anywhere. Thanks LPL!

  • @SlushPuppyyy
    @SlushPuppyyy 2 года назад

    Wirecutter updated their article with a reference to this video. It's a paragraph at the end of the "lock picking" subsection in the "The testing methods" section.