I did a build very similar to this one last season. I prefer the non-mendeln build you posted 6 days ago, just to see how far I can push it without that ring. But thank you for the minion build, always loved pet builds the best.
I was just using the icy veins Mendeln, and then noticed their last board had a couple things for elite, and a lot of pointless stuff to buff shadow damage. So I was looking into how to make some shit shadow so that wasn’t a waste, but might end up trying this build instead. Cheers mate.
Your vids gave me the interest to try out necro and I fell in love with the first minion build and now im on sever and living out my grim reaper fantasy lol Keep The vids coming bro!!
I got a razorplate almost immediately on getting to world tier 4 and changed to a thorns minion build. It's completely unoptimized, but it's carrying really hard for me from 60-75. The bone golem taunt with the extra inherited thorns is fantastic so far. Probably wont last through the endgame though sadly.
Congrats! You discovered the classic pre-season minion build xD Good build though, better now than it used to be but nothing new sadly. My comment isn't meant to take the piss brw, it's just funny to see this build re-emerge!
Haha youre not entirely wrong! Made some improvements to that old build that are making it so powerful. Sometimes knowledge is a circle, we have to rediscover things we used to know
@@Goblin-IncHaha what do you mean not entirely wrong, I'm not wrong at all! But yeah I'm happy to see you bring it back to life and bring it to a new audience. I'm still trying to get a build going that can comfortably clear T100 with the minions doing all the damage but it's so hard. I'm about to give it up and try a Golem only Shadowblight Bone Storm version. With Kalan's Edict being so shitty and with so much defenses missing from going Army of the Dead I think it's just a headache machine in the current version at the highest content lol
Goblin appreciate your love the Necro class this season. I'm currently running a bone spear / spirit right now. I want to try something new. Which is your favorite overall build this season for Necromancer?
I'm glad you enjoy the videos! I think my favorite build is a toss up between mendeln minions and blood surge. Both are super fun, new, and very powerful
Yeah the only problem I can't make up my mind lol. I kind of want to try Blood Lance, I just got my hands on the mutilator plate. I need to just make another necro lol!@@Goblin-Inc
Giving me some season 1 vibes with the Bone Prison/Mendel bug. Just sucks that we have to rely on that ring to make pets viable. Between nerfing the Witch Doctor and Necro on 3 and the way 4 is going, starting to think Blizzard is anti minions 😂.
Yay! A minion build where to get it to almost compete... You just still have to sacrifice a minion... Not mad at you, you're doing what you can. Just incredibly frustrated with Blizz continuing to ignore minions. I love minions. That's kind of the whole thing with Necromancers since D2. They were created to be Undead Commanders. Nothing against Bone/Blood necros. If that's what ya'll like, I'm happy for you. I just want a minion build that doesn't feel like I'm trying to do the 100 yard dash with 3000 lb weights tied to my ankles.
Amazing build as allways! Thanks for making summoner "viable". One question as HC player. What would you drop for blood mist? its kinda "mandatory" in hc to run it.
I'm new to the channel, today I picked up Doombringer with its minion build, which is actually very good, do you think this uber works on any necro shadow build?
no no no , no tricks . this insane min max theory craft after days weeks months just to make a build work.... no ... the devs need to change this entirely with better design
is stupidly annoying that to make a normal decent build with every other class except barbarian you have to do massive changes to the class plus reach super high levels of legendaries and uniques to work toghether a build that STILL is not compared AT ALL to the damage dealt from a decent barbarian with decent gear.
Oh BTW is the leveling order for skills correct? Hard to tell if it's auto-filled or if you set it based on the order of leveling with this build. Thanks again!
@@Goblin-Inc are you saying the build you posted a few days ago ( ruclips.net/video/e-pv7Ls7x0c/видео.htmlsi=NK7PGExtCrVVMrL1 ) is "way worse" than this version? I just started making that version.
I wonder with how high the LH is with Bone Spear and the shards if you are effectively using all the procs with minion attacks. Have you tested +Minion Attack speed on the amulet ?
The thing is that minion attack speed in AOE would be very good because of how many luck hit procs, but this build already anihlates in aoe. What we need is more single target damage
@@Goblin-Inc so you think you are using all the procs in single target? may be still useful to test. I know with the bugged bone prison build they were not using them all and limited by minion AS
yes, 95% of them will get caught just by normal attacks no buffs, theoretically you would miss one occasionally. We cant proc lucky hit nearly as much as we could with the bone prison bug.
I've been playing pure bone with mendeln since s2 but this season dmg of mendeln is not that high since bone skill dmg don't equal mendeln dmg, how fast does shadowbliqht aspect stack, can you stack it to activate in like 1-4 sec?
Yeah they need to rework all the bone stuff to say physical, then we could play normal corpse explosion as well. In aoe it stacks instantly, in single target it takes 4 seconds or so
2 seasons ago when we had the bone prison bug that we abused? This version is completely different lol. That version of the build doesnt work anymore, this build required loads of changes to get it to work properly
@@Goblin-Inc my point is, the build is barely a minion build is a "ring" build, it doesn't feel like a true minion build in any version sadly. But i agree your build is different. 👍
Don't want to nit pick, but they (your minions) are doing no damage, you (your ring) is doing all the damage. Your minions just facilitate the damage proc. Minions need a rework or a 10x buff and honestly the ring should scale from their multipliers not yours like it currently does.
yeah, would also force them maybe into realising how utterly bad minions are at the moment. An ARPG with a summoner class that cannot play pure summoning is just mind boggling to me.@@Goblin-Inc
I love your content but playing bone spear and summons makes no sense...I can play pure bone and clear all way faster but we all want to be summoners right😢
Hate funnel necking builds. Why is full summoner without uber crap. The uber should enhance it not makie the build worthy of pursuing. Played last season and deleted my necro after hitting a wall.
so again you are not facilitating minions, you are relying on an offensive skill in a different build to procc lucky hit. I run Summon necro since start of the season with no external mechanic and i run 70s smoothly so far,... i use mendeln as well but the lucky hit only comes from gear, with a golem that stuns and smashes shit to death, bonkers attack speed (which is getting crazy with the summoner ulti) which got buffed crazy with the cult leader board ... man I wish people would stop calling build relying on non summoner mechanics a summoner only build :D
If you mainly use bone spear why not just play bone spear build? This is not a minion build i'm sorry. It's just looks like you play minions, but their damage is irrelevant, i'ts mendeln that deal damage, not minions. And you proc mendeln by bone spear. Sadge...
If you don't understand what he's doing you shouldn't be commenting. Bone spear is not for damage it has the highest lucky hit chance especially with the helm giving us more chances for lucky hit. He's using as many minions as possible because the ring does damage per minion once lucky hit activates it.. yes it's not a minion build in the sense the minions don't do damage themselves but his video title is telling us it's a new way to play minions. Call it a ring of M build if you want but it still scales off minion quantity.
I did a build very similar to this one last season. I prefer the non-mendeln build you posted 6 days ago, just to see how far I can push it without that ring. But thank you for the minion build, always loved pet builds the best.
I have the same opinion as you, I got level 100.
Now I want to challenge myself and see how far I can get.
thumbs up. Thanks for going over what stats/skills we should use on our gear. I still have no idea what I am doing in d iv but Im level 81, lol
Now this! This is the minion build that I've been waiting for!!!
Where is minion build? I dont see
Finally a good summoner bone spear build
I was just using the icy veins Mendeln, and then noticed their last board had a couple things for elite, and a lot of pointless stuff to buff shadow damage. So I was looking into how to make some shit shadow so that wasn’t a waste, but might end up trying this build instead. Cheers mate.
Gonna try this, all I ever wanted was to play a minion build. If I get it to work how you do, I will thank you forever man ☠️😎
Good luck and let me know if you have any questions! I'm so happy to have a good minion build again!
@@Goblin-Inc Thank you, you have brain over 9000. Love your channel, helps me so much in games. And love your content too of course 👈😎
Your vids gave me the interest to try out necro and I fell in love with the first minion build and now im on sever and living out my grim reaper fantasy lol Keep The vids coming bro!!
I got a razorplate almost immediately on getting to world tier 4 and changed to a thorns minion build. It's completely unoptimized, but it's carrying really hard for me from 60-75. The bone golem taunt with the extra inherited thorns is fantastic so far. Probably wont last through the endgame though sadly.
With thorns build you can clear all content, nd 100 and all ubers. Is good
Congrats! You discovered the classic pre-season minion build xD
Good build though, better now than it used to be but nothing new sadly.
My comment isn't meant to take the piss brw, it's just funny to see this build re-emerge!
Haha youre not entirely wrong! Made some improvements to that old build that are making it so powerful. Sometimes knowledge is a circle, we have to rediscover things we used to know
@@Goblin-IncHaha what do you mean not entirely wrong, I'm not wrong at all! But yeah I'm happy to see you bring it back to life and bring it to a new audience.
I'm still trying to get a build going that can comfortably clear T100 with the minions doing all the damage but it's so hard. I'm about to give it up and try a Golem only Shadowblight Bone Storm version. With Kalan's Edict being so shitty and with so much defenses missing from going Army of the Dead I think it's just a headache machine in the current version at the highest content lol
Is d4...the builds are few...all you can do is going around them
Don't forget to use the Razorplate unique chestpiece for max thorns ;)
Thanks for your continued great content, Goblin! Note the link has both ring slots empty.
Try refreshing the page maybe? They should be there
@@Goblin-Inc Ahh yup! Just had to do a hard refresh. Thanks!
100% trying this build after the blood surge
Goblin appreciate your love the Necro class this season. I'm currently running a bone spear / spirit right now. I want to try something new. Which is your favorite overall build this season for Necromancer?
I'm glad you enjoy the videos!
I think my favorite build is a toss up between mendeln minions and blood surge. Both are super fun, new, and very powerful
Yeah the only problem I can't make up my mind lol. I kind of want to try Blood Lance, I just got my hands on the mutilator plate. I need to just make another necro lol!@@Goblin-Inc
Giving me some season 1 vibes with the Bone Prison/Mendel bug. Just sucks that we have to rely on that ring to make pets viable. Between nerfing the Witch Doctor and Necro on 3 and the way 4 is going, starting to think Blizzard is anti minions 😂.
Yay! A minion build where to get it to almost compete... You just still have to sacrifice a minion...
Not mad at you, you're doing what you can. Just incredibly frustrated with Blizz continuing to ignore minions. I love minions. That's kind of the whole thing with Necromancers since D2. They were created to be Undead Commanders. Nothing against Bone/Blood necros. If that's what ya'll like, I'm happy for you. I just want a minion build that doesn't feel like I'm trying to do the 100 yard dash with 3000 lb weights tied to my ankles.
Amazing build as allways! Thanks for making summoner "viable". One question as HC player. What would you drop for blood mist? its kinda "mandatory" in hc to run it.
Maybe corpse explosion, its hard to say. you would lose a lot by dropping anything.
You guys should do more Shorts! People dig quick tips, and I know I often subscribe to channels when scrolling to hear more good info.
Good luck! 🎉
I'm new to the channel, today I picked up Doombringer with its minion build, which is actually very good, do you think this uber works on any necro shadow build?
Great video, very explanatory.
Which version is more up to date this one or mobalytics
Heh, I wish RNG would bless me so I can try some of these variations this season :)
Nice. Hope you are able to come up a new trick to make Druid pets good too
Yeah idk about that one xd
no no no , no tricks . this insane min max theory craft after days weeks months just to make a build work.... no ... the devs need to change this entirely with better design
is stupidly annoying that to make a normal decent build with every other class except barbarian you have to do massive changes to the class plus reach super high levels of legendaries and uniques to work toghether a build that STILL is not compared AT ALL to the damage dealt from a decent barbarian with decent gear.
thx man, would yo urun shako over visage as head? and 1 point into thorns maybe to also proc lucky hit?
I use shako to be tankier sometimes, its a decent alternative until you get into single target situations
@onehandnick6302 Ring of Mendeln has thorns on it as one of its affixes so you don’t need waste a skill tree point on spiked armor.
Thanks but im still sad pure minions arent a thing. Can do you a blood lance build with the new chest? I quit before I was able to get it online
I will, doing blood nova first because its better
Oh BTW is the leveling order for skills correct? Hard to tell if it's auto-filled or if you set it based on the order of leveling with this build. Thanks again!
Its not, I randomly did it, no order. For leveling use this mobalytics.gg/diablo-4/builds/necromancer/minion-leveling
would love to try this build but mendeln doesnt drop for me
you did well given what you had to work with incompetent diablo 4 balance team
Will you still be doing a non Mendeln updated minion end game build. You have the best guides! Thank you so much
Thank you!
Maybe, theres a decent version of it but its way worse than this build.
@@Goblin-Inc are you saying the build you posted a few days ago ( ruclips.net/video/e-pv7Ls7x0c/видео.htmlsi=NK7PGExtCrVVMrL1 ) is "way worse" than this version? I just started making that version.
@@Broncobiv Same lmao I'm like wtf
Is there any uber unique to look out for?
I wonder with how high the LH is with Bone Spear and the shards if you are effectively using all the procs with minion attacks. Have you tested +Minion Attack speed on the amulet ?
The thing is that minion attack speed in AOE would be very good because of how many luck hit procs, but this build already anihlates in aoe. What we need is more single target damage
@@Goblin-Inc so you think you are using all the procs in single target? may be still useful to test. I know with the bugged bone prison build they were not using them all and limited by minion AS
yes, 95% of them will get caught just by normal attacks no buffs, theoretically you would miss one occasionally. We cant proc lucky hit nearly as much as we could with the bone prison bug.
I've been playing pure bone with mendeln since s2 but this season dmg of mendeln is not that high since bone skill dmg don't equal mendeln dmg, how fast does shadowbliqht aspect stack, can you stack it to activate in like 1-4 sec?
Yeah they need to rework all the bone stuff to say physical, then we could play normal corpse explosion as well. In aoe it stacks instantly, in single target it takes 4 seconds or so
was doing this last season, and limit in AOZ was 6...
What an inspiration
i dont get it why i miss so many points in board ( im lvl 100 already...) why u got so much more points to spend
Did you do renown?
How are you getting essence back ?
Can i use gloom on the skill tree or it wont work out ?
Pet mostly. Gloom wouldnt be useful in this build
Can i use army of the dead ?
Check out my first minion build for that setup
So this is really a bone spear build with minions
Bone spear is doing 0 damage, its all mendlen. Bone Spear is just to proc lucky hit
ok, so not a new build, mendeln its been the minion build to go since s1. i killed my first lillith with this build 2 seasons ago.
2 seasons ago when we had the bone prison bug that we abused? This version is completely different lol. That version of the build doesnt work anymore, this build required loads of changes to get it to work properly
@@Goblin-Inc my point is, the build is barely a minion build is a "ring" build, it doesn't feel like a true minion build in any version sadly. But i agree your build is different. 👍
this is not summoner build.pure summoner much more fun but cant do even 100 NMs
It can do 100's just not this fast
Don't want to nit pick, but they (your minions) are doing no damage, you (your ring) is doing all the damage. Your minions just facilitate the damage proc. Minions need a rework or a 10x buff and honestly the ring should scale from their multipliers not yours like it currently does.
Yeah I would like them to change mendeln to scale off of minions damage as well. Its an obvious way to make the build cooler
yeah, would also force them maybe into realising how utterly bad minions are at the moment. An ARPG with a summoner class that cannot play pure summoning is just mind boggling to me.@@Goblin-Inc
I love your content but playing bone spear and summons makes no sense...I can play pure bone and clear all way faster but we all want to be summoners right😢
And bosses are almost impossible to kill
Hate funnel necking builds. Why is full summoner without uber crap. The uber should enhance it not makie the build worthy of pursuing. Played last season and deleted my necro after hitting a wall.
wooww ❤
"Not a minion build"
so again you are not facilitating minions, you are relying on an offensive skill in a different build to procc lucky hit. I run Summon necro since start of the season with no external mechanic and i run 70s smoothly so far,... i use mendeln as well but the lucky hit only comes from gear, with a golem that stuns and smashes shit to death, bonkers attack speed (which is getting crazy with the summoner ulti) which got buffed crazy with the cult leader board ... man I wish people would stop calling build relying on non summoner mechanics a summoner only build :D
Well if you want to destroy nm100 this is how you have to do it.
@@Goblin-Inc i just did 100 and my build goes nowhere near this, so no, you dont have to do it that way :)
If you mainly use bone spear why not just play bone spear build? This is not a minion build i'm sorry. It's just looks like you play minions, but their damage is irrelevant, i'ts mendeln that deal damage, not minions. And you proc mendeln by bone spear. Sadge...
Because bone spear doesnt do damage in this build its all pets
If you don't understand what he's doing you shouldn't be commenting. Bone spear is not for damage it has the highest lucky hit chance especially with the helm giving us more chances for lucky hit. He's using as many minions as possible because the ring does damage per minion once lucky hit activates it.. yes it's not a minion build in the sense the minions don't do damage themselves but his video title is telling us it's a new way to play minions. Call it a ring of M build if you want but it still scales off minion quantity.
My guy reads the front page and the back page of a book and guesses the middle for book reports
@@Goblin-Inc is there any way to make minion and golem bone spear build can u make a build like that
Ok minion build still suck like everyone said.
Did you watch how fast this build clears nm100? lmfao
@@Goblin-Incdude probably plays barb and one hits everything. cant wait for barbs to get nerfed to be in line with everyone else lmao.