All the mighty Diablo heroes fall to darkness just being in the mere presence of Hell and the Prime Evils. Neyrelle travels across the entire world with her buddy Mephisto, has a few nightmares, and is totally fine afterwards.
@SamJulesGillians maybe but lore states that the nephalem got weaker over time due to the world stone. 20 years after its destruction doesn't seem like enough time for the blood lines of the average person to get so powerful, they can shrug off the Lord of hates influence.
This is honestly a huge thing missing from most of D3 & D4. Good prevails in the end, but evil always survives. The fact that the original protagonist trio suffered fates worse than death just by coming into contact with a Greater Evil is *insanely bleak* and sets the tone of the game's setting brilliantly. All the while not completely overpowering the human capacity to strive and survive amidst so much darkness that's at the centre of the story, the potential to stare into the abyss and not immediately go insane is a uniquely human trait. Hell, the Wanderer fought a losing battle and resisted Diablo's influence up until there literally was no trace of humanity left in him.
I liked how Diablo II aproached the story of the rogue and the mage but the warrior retcon on Diablo III was BS. The whole point of the king going mad is because his only heir was taken.
If you consider how most Heroes from the earlier games had a pretty dark fate after their heroic deeds, the influence of Mephisto in D4 seems more like a small inconvenience. Or they want to tell us that Neyrelle is actually stronger then every single one of those characters that canonically defeated one or more prime evils and several strong demon commanders. This is just my personal opinion but... I really dislike that. I also dislike the writers having such a love for characters who lose an arm and still are just as good (or better) compared to most people. Those things simply don`t make much sense to me in terms of realism and (in case of the corruption) lore.
While she is a bit of a Mary Sue, unlike the others, she was fully aware of Mephisto’s influence and was actively fighting it. Also mephisto wasn’t nearly at full strength which is why Lilith was after him.
Correct! I went into the full lore of what happened to Tristram directly leading up to the events of Diablo 1 here: ruclips.net/video/ljQQKVAj0x4/видео.html I didnt want to go too much into the story of Leoric and Lazarus in this video because of how much detail there is - doubling its runtime :P
I never liked retconing Warrior as Aiden because it feels like a stretch. Other two work great because nobody fiddled with their past making them unnecessarily important lore-wise. Aiden fighting his skeletal (?) father and Lazarus in d1 without any commentary blows the illusion away. You just feel it’s uncomfortably fake. Blizz should have made him an ex-footman in king’s army or prince’s childhood friend etc. Turning him into a son and a brother makes this story too personal to pretend it’s holding up.
I felt that too with both Aiden and Adria. Replaying it recently the lack of commentary takes you out of it. But Diablo 1 had crosses and symbols from Christianity so not all retcons are bad I suppose
I think it actually makes really good sense lore wise. The returning Prince coming to slay the enemy that abducts his brother and attempted to possess his father which drove him insane while he was gone and had possessed his father's closest advisor. Who wouldn't be coming for revenge on that. That makes more sense than the rogue and mage together
Well at least it took them a long time to do so. In diablo 2 it still didn't really retcon anything. It only mentioned diablo possessed the hero of the first game. It was only in diablo 3 that they went wild with the retcon. That game was when the franchise started to lose it's identity anyway.
@@dragula131 It's not that the story doesn't make sense in a vacuum. It's that if you play Diablo 1 none of this is commented upon and it feels weird. Where as the added backstory for the other two is general enough it still fits with Diablo 1. It also kind of gives the warrior 'main character syndrome' over the other playable characters with this personal backstory while the other two just sort of show up for less personal reasons.
@@MalzraAirwynn I do get that, I'm not saying it was the right call by Blizzard but I'm sure back then when the first one came out they didn't expect it to be the hit, then people started wondering things when the second one was released and then they just said screw it by 3. Which is when it kinda started losing the luster imo. Still played it but damned if 2 and LoD wasn't so much better than 3 and 4 together
👀 what?? I never considered or knew what happened to the D2 heroes. I know the d1 ones but man all this time never put together or learned what happened. Man I need to know now
That background lore would deserve a bunch of narrators & fans who care to craft an equivalent to `The Wanderings of Al Hazred aka Alhazred´. I remember a similar `shock´, when Dracula's daughter proved that heroic van Helsing also was the fool dragging his family into decades of vengeance & retaliation.
Damn man, the video just started and I already misheard you 🤦🤦😂. I thought you said "The rogue, the *lawyer* and the sorcerer" and I was like "daaamn, they're actually going to evict diablo out of his dungeon? This guys are hardcore!"
I was thinking about the soulstone and the vessel thingy In diablo immortal , destroying the shard corrupta the person overtime , in d3 we destroy malthael ... so it corrupts the Nephilim?
Man, I play Diablo 1 and 2 regularly and I have been into the franchise since the mid-late 90s. Never noticed the lore being so deep!. Also, wtf, Diablo 2 doesn't look like that! Is that how resurrected looks? does it have any improvement (I never installed it, because it doesn't have local network support, but might consider it as solo play if it has some extras)
Yes! That's Diablo 2 Resurrected and it arguably looks as good if not better than Diablo 4. The coolest thing is you can press a button to swap to the old game's graphics too - the difference is crazy
I once read a puzzling article on horazon. It stated that he felt guilty for jazreth's plight and did what he could do to help him out of obligation. That sounded so uncharacteristic I couldn't understand it.
There's more to the story about Blood Raven, according to the developers. Basically, she brought back a ton of artifacts, and while Akara agreed that they were to be used/would be useful for the Sisters, she also believed in studying and understanding them first before putting them into general use. Moreina, spurred on by what she'd seen in Tristram, disagreed and believed the Sisters didn't have the time, since they were woefully underprepared for Hell. This caused a minor scism in the Sisters between those who took Moreina's side and Akara's, but there were no open conflicts at the time; just very vocal disagreements. Eventually though, Akara's fears were pretty much true, and Moreina's corruption basically started from the stuff she brought back. Andariel corrupted her and the others through the artifacts, and rest is history. Edit: It's also unclear whether the Summoner was Jazreth adopting the moniker of Horazon or if Horazon's spirit itself took over Jazreth's body.
Thanks for the context on Blood Raven! Good to know Regarding Jazreth, I want to believe it's the former as according to the Horadric Vault books (cant remember which one specifically), Horazon was more or less a good guy and lead the battle against his brother to stop using demons in battle
I never knew the warrior was actually a prince and was related to King Leoric and boy. I've always thought the warrior was a adventurer from Tristram and came back home after a mission. Ogden's speech to the warrior @7:46 makes sense now.
i dont know if the lore was changed...but if the main character is the son of King Leoric, he wouldnt say the line "Rest well Leoric, ill find your son"...on fact the wounded guys monologue was "The Archbishop Lazarus, he led s down here to finbd the lost prince"...therefore there was Leorics son there, the warriors doesnt react to any of it
So let me get this straight, Diablo mate with Adria for his future plans of a new vessel like that far fetching planning or it just canon, terrifying 😅
I mean sure they needed to do it to set up the story for later games, but if you really think about it, it's just incredulous. Leave aside the fuckery of putting a malevolent demon inside yourself, what could possibly make someone who wasn't suicidal (presumably) to shove a half foot long jagged crystal spike into their own skull?
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." -- John 3:16 KJV
Your sing song style of narration is off putting. I think you are trying too hard resulting in this unnatural sounding cadence and intonation. I gave up watching the video half way through. Sorry.
Who gives a fuck? It's the same story in every single game. Big bad dies, some mortal releases a new big bad curse, rinse and repeat. It's boring as hell.
Rogue > Bloodraven in act 1
Aidan > Diablo in act 4
Mage > The summoner in act 2
Free that caged dog! He needs fresh meat
All the mighty Diablo heroes fall to darkness just being in the mere presence of Hell and the Prime Evils. Neyrelle travels across the entire world with her buddy Mephisto, has a few nightmares, and is totally fine afterwards.
Lets be fair, story is still going,
she's underage.
Across the entire world?
It was like that scene in Nacho Libre
"How did you find me?"
"I could see the boat from the cinematic from the town"
I was saying this to my friend not too long ago. If we want to reach we can say Neyrelle might be tough because there is no world stone.
@SamJulesGillians maybe but lore states that the nephalem got weaker over time due to the world stone. 20 years after its destruction doesn't seem like enough time for the blood lines of the average person to get so powerful, they can shrug off the Lord of hates influence.
"Unfortunately the world of Tristram and Sanctuary is nihilistic, bleak, and hopeless."
Imprisoned fluff boy - "I too know the dark infinite abyss."
@@edwardmarshall2035 😂🤣
This is honestly a huge thing missing from most of D3 & D4.
Good prevails in the end, but evil always survives. The fact that the original protagonist trio suffered fates worse than death just by coming into contact with a Greater Evil is *insanely bleak* and sets the tone of the game's setting brilliantly. All the while not completely overpowering the human capacity to strive and survive amidst so much darkness that's at the centre of the story, the potential to stare into the abyss and not immediately go insane is a uniquely human trait.
Hell, the Wanderer fought a losing battle and resisted Diablo's influence up until there literally was no trace of humanity left in him.
I liked how Diablo II aproached the story of the rogue and the mage but the warrior retcon on Diablo III was BS. The whole point of the king going mad is because his only heir was taken.
If you consider how most Heroes from the earlier games had a pretty dark fate after their heroic deeds, the influence of Mephisto in D4 seems more like a small inconvenience.
Or they want to tell us that Neyrelle is actually stronger then every single one of those characters that canonically defeated one or more prime evils and several strong demon commanders.
This is just my personal opinion but... I really dislike that.
I also dislike the writers having such a love for characters who lose an arm and still are just as good (or better) compared to most people. Those things simply don`t make much sense to me in terms of realism and (in case of the corruption) lore.
Def Leopard lost an arm, and was killing it.
While she is a bit of a Mary Sue, unlike the others, she was fully aware of Mephisto’s influence and was actively fighting it. Also mephisto wasn’t nearly at full strength which is why Lilith was after him.
@@Delmania01out of this entire comment section and the replies… you’re literally the only person that makes sense.
poor doggo locked up...
One of the main reasons Leoric went fully mad was because Diablo attempted to possess him but failed.
Correct! I went into the full lore of what happened to Tristram directly leading up to the events of Diablo 1 here:
ruclips.net/video/ljQQKVAj0x4/видео.html
I didnt want to go too much into the story of Leoric and Lazarus in this video because of how much detail there is - doubling its runtime :P
I like these character lore videos knowing what happen to them.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it
Great video! I had no idea the sorcerer and the rogue were in D2 as well!
HEY! let that pupper out of jail
He was tussling with his brother and needed to chill out
Free the fluffy boi :O Justice for the fluff
god i love diablo lore dude. i played through d1 d2 and d3 countless times. its so fucking epic man.
I never liked retconing Warrior as Aiden because it feels like a stretch. Other two work great because nobody fiddled with their past making them unnecessarily important lore-wise. Aiden fighting his skeletal (?) father and Lazarus in d1 without any commentary blows the illusion away. You just feel it’s uncomfortably fake. Blizz should have made him an ex-footman in king’s army or prince’s childhood friend etc. Turning him into a son and a brother makes this story too personal to pretend it’s holding up.
I felt that too with both Aiden and Adria. Replaying it recently the lack of commentary takes you out of it. But Diablo 1 had crosses and symbols from Christianity so not all retcons are bad I suppose
I think it actually makes really good sense lore wise. The returning Prince coming to slay the enemy that abducts his brother and attempted to possess his father which drove him insane while he was gone and had possessed his father's closest advisor. Who wouldn't be coming for revenge on that. That makes more sense than the rogue and mage together
Well at least it took them a long time to do so. In diablo 2 it still didn't really retcon anything. It only mentioned diablo possessed the hero of the first game. It was only in diablo 3 that they went wild with the retcon. That game was when the franchise started to lose it's identity anyway.
@@dragula131 It's not that the story doesn't make sense in a vacuum. It's that if you play Diablo 1 none of this is commented upon and it feels weird. Where as the added backstory for the other two is general enough it still fits with Diablo 1.
It also kind of gives the warrior 'main character syndrome' over the other playable characters with this personal backstory while the other two just sort of show up for less personal reasons.
@@MalzraAirwynn I do get that, I'm not saying it was the right call by Blizzard but I'm sure back then when the first one came out they didn't expect it to be the hit, then people started wondering things when the second one was released and then they just said screw it by 3. Which is when it kinda started losing the luster imo. Still played it but damned if 2 and LoD wasn't so much better than 3 and 4 together
Please do Diablo 2 heroes next please 😁
This is better Diablo content than anything blizz has done lately. Thanks blizz
@@southc4463 high praise! Thank you
Blizzard died long ago.
@@helloidharbl6753 They lost their Acti-vision for good games...
@teddychu1177 I seen what you did there 😉
Now the Diablo 2 heroes :D
Added to the backlog!
I think most of D2 heroes end up the same way as D1 heroes except for Xul, Cassia and the Barbarian with no name.
👀 what?? I never considered or knew what happened to the D2 heroes. I know the d1 ones but man all this time never put together or learned what happened. Man I need to know now
@@bongbongGAMING7878and that fact makes me crazy for so long.
I really liked Xul and the Barb too..
The booklet that came with this was amazing.
That background lore would deserve a bunch of narrators & fans who care to craft an equivalent to `The Wanderings of Al Hazred aka Alhazred´. I remember a similar `shock´, when Dracula's daughter proved that heroic van Helsing also was the fool dragging his family into decades of vengeance & retaliation.
I feel like Diablo's lore would make an amazing HBO Series
Until this day i play Diablo1 it was the first game i played. And i cant believe blizzard hasent done a movie of diablo whit all this amazing Lore.
Agreed - it would be amazing as a movie or series if done properly. I still go back and play Diablo 1 every few years
Diablo 2 was my childhood. I would like to know what happened to those heroes too. Awesome video!
You bet! I’ll get into them next.
Same
Damn man, the video just started and I already misheard you 🤦🤦😂.
I thought you said "The rogue, the *lawyer* and the sorcerer" and I was like "daaamn, they're actually going to evict diablo out of his dungeon? This guys are hardcore!"
its the 'murican way!
They did a really good job at making Bloodraven such a boss with badass importance to the story
I was thinking about the soulstone and the vessel thingy
In diablo immortal , destroying the shard corrupta the person overtime , in d3 we destroy malthael ... so it corrupts the Nephilim?
I'm sure the video is great but I'm really just hoping that Samoyed in the background does a full 90 degree head tilt
No head tilts :( alas I will have to resort to my Samoyed for my daily dose
Ill have to say ‘Park?!’ For him to do that - but then he goes nuts 🤣
I already knew about this when I first played Diablo 2
Man, I play Diablo 1 and 2 regularly and I have been into the franchise since the mid-late 90s. Never noticed the lore being so deep!. Also, wtf, Diablo 2 doesn't look like that! Is that how resurrected looks? does it have any improvement (I never installed it, because it doesn't have local network support, but might consider it as solo play if it has some extras)
Yes! That's Diablo 2 Resurrected and it arguably looks as good if not better than Diablo 4. The coolest thing is you can press a button to swap to the old game's graphics too - the difference is crazy
I once read a puzzling article on horazon. It stated that he felt guilty for jazreth's plight and did what he could do to help him out of obligation. That sounded so uncharacteristic I couldn't understand it.
Already well known what happened to the diablo 1 heroes because they are bosses in 2.
There's more to the story about Blood Raven, according to the developers.
Basically, she brought back a ton of artifacts, and while Akara agreed that they were to be used/would be useful for the Sisters, she also believed in studying and understanding them first before putting them into general use.
Moreina, spurred on by what she'd seen in Tristram, disagreed and believed the Sisters didn't have the time, since they were woefully underprepared for Hell.
This caused a minor scism in the Sisters between those who took Moreina's side and Akara's, but there were no open conflicts at the time; just very vocal disagreements.
Eventually though, Akara's fears were pretty much true, and Moreina's corruption basically started from the stuff she brought back.
Andariel corrupted her and the others through the artifacts, and rest is history.
Edit: It's also unclear whether the Summoner was Jazreth adopting the moniker of Horazon or if Horazon's spirit itself took over Jazreth's body.
Thanks for the context on Blood Raven! Good to know
Regarding Jazreth, I want to believe it's the former as according to the Horadric Vault books (cant remember which one specifically), Horazon was more or less a good guy and lead the battle against his brother to stop using demons in battle
I feel very lucky to watch this video because I literaly searched 'diablo lore' in yt and found out this video just uploaded 13 hours ago
@@dytra_io awesome!
I never knew the warrior was actually a prince and was related to King Leoric and boy. I've always thought the warrior was a adventurer from Tristram and came back home after a mission.
Ogden's speech to the warrior @7:46 makes sense now.
One thing to note is that the warrior being a Prince and related to Leoric was RetCon’d in Diablo 3
great stuff
Glad you liked it!
What a fucking sick lore, what the hell happened with 3 and 4? why isn't the lore as dark, amazing, and immersive as 1 and 2?
1 & 2 were made by the same original team, before they left due to company politics
The tragic thing is the fate of Diablo itself. The first to rounds were great but for no. 3 and 4 it was only downhill
what happened to Irina, Kormac and Lingndon?_?
The d3 companions?
Lyndon is the Leader of a bandit Camp in hawezar in d4
@@BrodyHarris-r9l yes
@@MinecraftFanGoesD3 WTF o.o
Backwater is the town, do all the side quests. Lyndon runs that town. Youll see him :)@chapilim
i dont know if the lore was changed...but if the main character is the son of King Leoric, he wouldnt say the line "Rest well Leoric, ill find your son"...on fact the wounded guys monologue was "The Archbishop Lazarus, he led s down here to finbd the lost prince"...therefore there was Leorics son there, the warriors doesnt react to any of it
So let me get this straight, Diablo mate with Adria for his future plans of a new vessel like that far fetching planning or it just canon, terrifying 😅
Now tell us what happened with heroes from D2 please.
Coming up boss
I mean sure they needed to do it to set up the story for later games, but if you really think about it, it's just incredulous.
Leave aside the fuckery of putting a malevolent demon inside yourself, what could possibly make someone who wasn't suicidal (presumably) to shove a half foot long jagged crystal spike into their own skull?
I heard they got regular jobs with PTO and pension.
The Dark Wanderer did promise new jobs
I love this series. It’s like having a big daddy bear telling a bedtime story.
The tragic fate of being subjected to hack writers.
wait what, what did he mean there were aliens in the hellfire mod?
Your arms puzzle me.
Leave my arm fat alone 🥹
Yeah dont hate on Hellfire. It wasnt space aliens it was insects and demons.
I never got this deep about the lore in Diablo
Welcome to the rabbit hole
what happened to D2 heroes after defeating the 3 prime?
that's the topic of an upcoming video
Torchlight has similar story from diablo 1 and 2
Diablo 3 was a semi-reimagining of D1 and D2, so it's really is a separate game and whatever lore it has is not canon to what happened in D1 and D2.
Yup - Aidan as the warrior is a retcon. However, I'd be remiss not to use that fact as he has been in the lore since D3's release 12 years ago
what a cute bear.
If i didnt see you talk I woulda thought this was voiced by A.I.
thanks?
@loatheburger the sound felt like it was skipping a frame or something so it sounded slightly robotic
TLDR; Blood raven. Horazon, Diablo.
The mage wasnt horazon.
the diablo franchise ends with diablo 2 LOD ;/
Why the dog in a cage? Poor dog.
I have 2 and they sometimes get into it with each other. They regulate and calm down in the crate which is why I need to use it
Amazing video King keep up the great work!🤜🏽🤛🏽🫡
Thanks brother!
only the hero from Diablo 3 had a good ending.
Supposedly - we just don’t know what happened after. We know the female Paladin is probably dead
@ uh they had the power to defeat angles and devils. The demons in D4 didnt act up until after their deaths.
Doggies doing time. Naughty puppies
Why is the dog caged???
Crate Trained - he was being mean to his younger brother and needed a timeout to chill
Free the floofer.
is that a spitz?
Samoyed specifically
Diablo 1 and 2, Warcraft 2 and 3, and all of StarCraft are peak Blizzard.
The rest are trash. Fight me.
I’m with you, although I’d add vanilla WoW to that list. Overwatch was great at release too, although im not really into pvp only games
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." -- John 3:16 KJV
Couldn't enjoy the video because you caged a dog instead of cared for it
never heard of crate training?
Your sing song style of narration is off putting. I think you are trying too hard resulting in this unnatural sounding cadence and intonation. I gave up watching the video half way through. Sorry.
Naurrr DISAGREE. Tuned in cause the narration isn’t another nerd w/a flat tone talking
Who gives a fuck? It's the same story in every single game. Big bad dies, some mortal releases a new big bad curse, rinse and repeat. It's boring as hell.
If you are home let the dang dog out!
I have 2 and when they get heated they need to be separated to cool down - the crate helps