Parkland trial: Nikolas Cruz hoped victims would hug him during massacre, psychiatrist says
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2022
- Nikolas Cruz told a state psychiatrist that he hoped one of the students would come up and hug him while he was killing 17 people at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida. Cruz has pleaded guilty to 17 counts of first-degree murder and faces a possible death sentence or life without the possibility of parole.
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Why did you stop? "I couldn't find anyone else to kill. I didn't wanna do it anymore." His first statement was the truth, then he realized it would be better if he said the second one. What a POS!!
Exactly 💯
I am trying to figure out why he didn't harm the student who came across him in the stairwell....
@@peacehappyb237 he was still loading his gun
@@peacehappyb237 he wanted a witness to tell people what he said smh
@@ecervantesramirez okay that makes sense.
This was pre-meditated for a long time. He almost sounds excited as he relives that day. I pray for all the families and that they heal.
@Queren hapuque He "smoked" the freshman halls. He was much older than them and I doubt ever had classes with them. He smoked the easiest and smallest targets and he is sick in the head. Everyone gets bullied for something.
Ikr, when he says “I think that’s what his name is ,I don’t remember” after he says one of the victims names correctly, as if trying to act like he doesn’t remember his name 😒
@Queren hapuque you can’t go around shooting people who bully you, that’s not how society works 🤡
Being bullied doesn’t give him a pass here, I hope that’s not what you mean with your comment. What he did was disgusting! If every bullied kid did this we’d have shootings every day.
@Queren hapuque You need to be medicated. What did your dad do to you to make you like this.
I feel guilty for even watching this. I want to learn more about why people like this do what they do, but it’s so heartbreaking. People love to sensationalize the shooter but forget all about the victims. 17 children died and it was all because of this twisted individual.
Thts too many ppl to remember tho
And we remember the shooter cuz it's crazyyyyyyy and shocking maybe not as shocking cuz it so popular now
@@sexmetalbarbie8892 you are the problem
When a baby that's growing in the womb is exposed to alcohol the brain is almost always arrested when it achieves a very young development. Think of this killer as a 3-5 year old. They're just starting to make sense but still rarely connect all the dots. So ya, he's throwing a tantrum. He needs and wants a hug, but isn't getting it so he murders the people that aren't giving him what he wants. Two things can be done immediately so that more innocent people, beloved children, aren't slaughtered. Causing lifelong heartache to their loved ones. 1) Put labels on every bottle of booze to tell women that if they're pregnant and drinking they're harming their children. 2) Make all gun owners pass competency tests to get a license to shoot, or be able to buy a gun.
They always start by torturing/killing animals for a sense of power-keep that in mind...as long as we as a society allow children to harm animals there will be people hurting other people. It is the same act in the mind of a killer taking pleasure by harming another and in the pain and suffering of the victim.
The fact that he knew all the names of his victims and sounded so excited..
No, he didn't. He only knew one.
@@giancarlocarattini4985 he’s probably heard their names so many times but doesn’t have the respect to remember them all. he actually didn’t say peter’s, the only victim name he mentioned, last name correctly.
He knew the name of the kid because he used to be apart of the same club and he knew what shirts they wore.
@@LaSombraa Meh... they were four years apart in age and grades, so I doubt their paths crossed.
Yqll mad when they don't know the. Names and mad when they do wtf...he went to school w these kids so duh he's gonna know them. And he heats the names constantly thru the trial and also probably thru hate mail...
He’s not crazy. He purposefully said hug because he knows that word will piss us off and drive us crazy. While he’s pretending to be this big doe eyed Harry Potter, he’s relishing in the anguish this is causing. He loves that we react to every little thing he says. He feeds on it.
Harry Potter 😂 lmao
He’s not that smart
I don't think he even thought this interview would be brought up at this hearing when he did it.
i feel sick
judging off the JCS analysis on him, I feel like he doesn’t have the brains for that
The way Nicolas was talking, he's very proud of what he has done and I think he would do it again.
And I wonder about his brother.
@@silencemeviolateme6076 arrest the brother
No dout
so is he psychopathic or is he proud. literally cant be both
Why he didn’t kill himself?
It's hard to hug somebody that's trying to kill you. I pray for some kind of peace for the families.
Makes sense when you think about it
sometime that all thats needed have you not seen the video of another school shooter stopped by his teacher with just a hug before he managed to halm a single person
I pray Nikolas will repent and become a born again Christian 🙏
I doubt it would be a good idea to hug a person that has killed other people before. They could kill you next at some point.
Sounds like some kind of morbid joke and it ain't funny.
Hug his victims? While shooting without mercy even leaving 180 rounds of ammunition?
Well, hugging is not something expressed on the creepy notes he wrote about his plans and thoughts of inflicting pain, and horror, wishing for blood, and suffering, killing, and bringing death. Wishing to be Satan's disciple as he expressed.
A hug by this monster could only be the means to suffocate a victim, someone defenseless to this namby-pamby coward with rifle and Nazi delusions.
He should better try that hugging on the inmates of the penitentiary, he'll get a good one alright.
“Nasty and sad to see?”
Says the dude who shot them wtf
that line also caught my attention. sad to see yet he made the conscious decision to keep on killing. he acts as if something was forcing him to do this when he WANTED to. even after all of this he still won’t completely accept blame for what he’s done. that’s how you know he feels no real remorse.
I feel bad that the parents had to hear that smh
No different than soldiers in the military who know it's wrong to kill but do it anyway
@Anna this is nothing like soldiers fighting for freedom or ending terrorist threats you freak wtf you smoking lol?
@@kaitlind375 demon possessed
Defence - “he didn’t know what he was doing!”
State - “well, wanna see something crazy?!”
The defense is NOT fighting for him if you knew anything about law they are working with prosecutors to convince jurors to give him death
@BuildGUY Nikolas & Amber Heard could be the next Natural Born Killers. Lol
Idk why that would matter, the fact remains he did it.
He knew exactly what he was doing
@BuildGUY Your comment did not age well.
I love how the psychologist says "so the first person we shot.." as if he's with him when in reality he just says it like that to make him comfortable enough to get more info out of him lmao
This is terrible. This guy was legitimately out here with a purpose.
Praying for everyone.
He carefully planned it all out and made videos of himself laughing and saying what he was going to do. He said in one of the videos that when it was all over everyone would know his name. Well, he certainly got that one right! This monster deserves no mercy!
Let’s see how far praying has gotten us so far…
@@oliviam2863 that’s all we can do. Leave it up to god
Planet earth is a terrible place I pray that nick and the people he killed all go to heaven happy singing dancing forever and ever halauya amen
But I also pray that everyone in the comment section who continuesly call nick a disgusting monster shall suffer and be tormented in hell for all eternity haalalua amen
If he felt sick or sad that he shot someone and blood came out. He only stopped because he thought there was no one left in the building. I say the death penalty.
I say hand him over to the families and let them do what they want with him.
Correct!
Death penalty is too easy. Let him go to prison where the other inmates will give him what he deserves
@@jim2268 BIG BUBBA IS WAITING FOR THE " SWAMP THING". I will not use the murderers' name.
This doctor is the best spoken, clear, intelligent, organized, and confident person from this entire trial!! Bravo!!
no he is not by misdiagnosis a mass shooter with Borderline personality disorder which essentially means people with that disorder will now be equated to a school shooter.
actually no, he's not following ethical standards in psychology, he's placing diagnosis to be able to be fully compensated.
Yes. He looks very angry, rightfully so.
I agree and I love how he holds his ground with the public pretender I mean defender.
I think he's a narcissist. And to me doesnt really seem to demonstrate the type of composure a court appointed psychologist should portray.
@@naussibossy5226 And exactly how should a court appointmented psychologist portray himself? I fail to see the narcissism and think he did a brilliant job. He sure got Nicholas Cruz to spill his guts!
And after all that he did, he wanted to smash a window to destroy even more lives. What a horrible person!
He'll be Big Bubba's new boyfriend in the joint. 🤣
Sounds like the window was almost bulletproof. That window saved a lot of lives
😈 Evil is what it is!
It wouldn't have mattered even if he so much as killed only of those lives and stopped there.
🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️how much longer is this BS GONNA GO ON….
Hide it from your recommendations. Out of sight, out of mind. Simple as that.
@@TheLucidSpecter that's not what he is asking..lmao
he should already get death penalty.lobg enough. What are they waiting for ???
@@TheLucidSpecter how do the victims do the same
The prosecution needs to have a iron tight case because they need 100% of the jury to agree on the death penalty.
@@yaytubeable I hear / understand what you’re saying, Lauren. But I hope NC gets LIFE. At his age, a LIFE sentence would POTENTIALLY grant him more years to live than would the death penalty; therefore, more years for him to suffer his consequences.
Did he say that it was “sad to see” blood coming out of his victim?
yep. So believable, right? It was sad to see, so he kept on shooting more and more people after that.
I could be wrong but I think I heard "it was really nasty and sad to see" 1:23
@@rachael943 still doesn’t really change anything. he probably felt really happy seeing the blood come out. he’s such a liar
Sick animal he’s disgusting
@@rachael943 He did in fact say "it was really nasty and sad to see", and he said so without any horror, disgust or sadness in his voice. He's quite the actor
I gave this all a break 2 months ago…I cannot honest;y believe this is STILL dragging out!
I’m thinking that same thing. When it’s a black man it’s “swift and speedy judgment “
Right?
Me too. How long will this go on for???
@@derellebrown9753 just like with R. Kelly right? Sure different circumstances but still they really dragged that case on way too long.
BTW I blame the parents more than R. Kelly just saying…
Systemic racism is real and needs to be talked about more. With that said, you sound like an idiot..Bring up a single case where a black man killed 17 kids and lived long enough to be arrested. jfc
This psychiatrist has been the most sharpest, well spoken, well explained Doctor, witness, person on the stand yet. If I were a juror, this man would have swayed me the most so far.
Not really. Everything he said was common sense
@@cluezybluez
Ah yes the extremely complicated DSM5 spread sheets and graphs were just common sense to a regular person of the public.
@@nuck- Ah yes. Tell me one thing this guy said that you couldn't determine with common sense and needed the DSM and high level PHD education to figure out
@@cluezybluez
You're the typical pseudo-intellectual youtube poster. If you'd watched every day of his testimony (3 days total now) you'd understand its not common sense. These are among the most complex psychological issues a human being can have and he's explaining this to people who have no idea.
Stick to minecraft.
@@nuck- 👏👏👏 yes, EXACTLY!!!
He knew everything. He knew exactly what he was doing. The jury failed the families. The system failed the families and the country. Now future shooters will feel empowered. This is one of the biggest fails in court in history. 😞
Doesn't mean he isn't crazy
Who in their right mind would approach anyone holding an assault rifle?!
Kinda like who would want to hug their wife who has bad pms like that episode of everybody loves Raymond
Only arresting Officer Mike Leonard of Coconut creek police.
This monster is a lot smarter then people think he is.
He knows exactly what he’s doing. Cruz talking to the psychiatrist is second hand embarrassment with how he’s trying to sound crazy. It’s so damn obvious.
Fr like dud pls just stop
He is just pure evil! Many including myself have been through both childhood and adult trauma. It's never been an excuse for evil criminal behavior. If anything It's made me more compassionate, empathetic and dedicating the rest of my life to helping and working with individuals with disabilities and mental illness. A difficult pasts is not an excuse to hurt others!
Anyone that goes into a school and kils people is absolutely insane period
He's not smart
@@megclifton6692 obviously. You would be correct..
Part of why this case is dragging on so long is that this is a rare case where the shooter is still alive. Usually they die at the scene. So they are studying him to help prevent future events. Maybe that's what's going on.
This is the dumbest comment I've seen In a while, and I just came from a Rachael Maddow video
lol, no thats no the reason. its because there were so many victims.
@@tinamariegallox That's what I mean. There are a lot of victims and usually in these type of shootings the shooter is shot and killed or commits suicide.
@@frozenfrosty00 What's dumb about it? If Klebold and Harris lived they would have been examined to see what makes them tick.
A trial is not the time or place to “study” the perpetrator. That will take place for several years once he’s incarcerated, before he’s executed.
I wish he would of asked why he thought they would hug him.
“It was really nasty and sad to see.” You’ve gotta be f***ing kidding me.
why????
@@vice2versa because he shot 15 others afterwards, ya jagov
It means that even he was surprised how gruesome the result of his action was. No matter how much you imagine shooting people in your head, nothing prepares you for the real thing.
@@vice2versa bruh…because he said that he wanted to be a “professional school shooter” and murder people. And then he said it was”sad to see” the victims. He’s full of 💩.
@💎WhyuEWObro💎 dont worry I already know, I just wanted to see what he would say about it because people don't realize that no matter often you imagine yourself killing others, nothing prepares you for the real thing as ArcadianGenesis said.
Saying the victims name is disgusting in my opinion. Saying it twice too...like he's excited about it 🤮
He's a damn monster. Ffs! He's pure evil.
Your a bot SHUT UPP!!
Nikolas Cruz was obsessed with Elliot Rodger seung hui cho and the columbine villains which made me ask why?
He deserves the death penalty 😡😡
How this jury found compassion for him is absolutely insane to me his sister that testified would be more understandable to go insane vs him she went through hell he used his trauma as an excuse
There's a reason why shooters are almost always young men. I wish i understood it. I'm sure it has something to do with mens mental health care + the way men use aggression and violence to prove points or express feelings. Kinda the same way men are more likely to complete suicide, whereas women aren't usually successful with it. Men choose things like guns, while women tend to go for pills or something less fatal. It's scary stuff, I hope things can change eventually.
@@Mykeynikey22331 This is not a typical example of a young man. men use aggression in a measured way in sports or as a protective instinct to stand up for themselves and their loved ones. They are also typically highly social. This creep was a loner, isolating himself from others and nurturing hatred toward others. His behavior is not a healthy masculine pattern of behavior. Case in point, the aggressive instincts of at least one male teacher in this incident was to stand their ground to buy time for students in their care to escape to safety. That's a more typical male aggression/assertiveness. it is self-sacrificing, not vindictive.
Regarding suicide, men who commit suicide simply intend to kill themselves, where women often attempt it to get attention and thus aren't really trying to go through with it.
@@Mykeynikey22331 Men have higher levels of testosterone. Testosterone increases risk taking and makes people care less about being physically hurt.
@@lesigh1749 Lots of conjecture here
@@LoneAW0 No conjecture at all, just basic facts about normal male psychology and "aggression".
The narrative of "toxic masculinity" is nonsense.
I didn't find anyone to kill.... says it all. Justice for the victims & victims families ♥️🙏
He honestly gets a rise out of tormenting the families of the victims with everybody being said on trial. I just want them to speed up the process and give him the penalty he deserves.
You do realize that it is the State who is putting on evidence right now, don’t you? It is the government who has spent the majority of time putting on evidence.
@@rogf3238 what’s going about with a gun got to do with it? Seems to me that US gun culture is at least part of the problem. And that’s putting it lightly.
@@rogf3238 what what?
@@V5Bs he thinks he’s a hero by walking with a peashooter on his hip so he can “prevent” gun violence … after all, that’s what he statistics suggests would happen. He thinks he’s doing a civic duty.
He has the balls of one of the victims wanting to give this monster a hug and even drew disturbing drawings he’s just pure evil he doesn’t deserve a hug or forgiveness.
God forgives people and yes he forgive Cruz if he repent. If you don’t forgive then the father in heaven won’t forgive you and wil punish you for that. The punishment belong to god and not to people on earth .
@@Dienenekleineqw well I’m sorry to hear that but just to let you know I don’t feel bad for mass murders rapists pedophiles and criminals in general.
@@alecgonzalez6910 then you do your best. If you can’t forgive that’s fine.
@@Dienenekleineqw No some people can choose not to forgive, god only punishes those who have remain dirty souls. You don’t have to forgive to be forgiven but you will then have to commit no sins. Since he’s never killed he can be accepted.
@@DelimiterFrameworks well but don’t forget that god forgave that murder on the cross and Jesus said you will be in heaven with me. If Cruz repent and change he’s life style then god wil totally forgive him. God is a mercy god he love us the same thing is with Cruz. god created us al and don’t want us to be lost in hel with Satan. Why do you think that they didn’t gave him the death ? I know the answer. God is against the death people can’t just kill people for doing wrong things. Only god can punish people and take their lives away for doing a lot of sins in their life.
;ps of people not forgive our choose not too forgive others then god won’t forgive them too . That’s how it works people should forgive .
All these families have so much more strength than I ever would have been able to keep. Smh. Bless their hearts to even have to look at that mug
This guy is a totally desturbed individual, but he‘s not crazy. He‘d probably do it again.
it sucks to be raped and then end up years later living with the same family of the kid who waw older who did this sick act that was never reported by his mom even though she walked in on the activity in her own home
“Why did you stop at that moment?”
“I couldn’t couldn’t find anyone to kill “
Apparently that don’t warrant a death sentence 😒
Yeah . . . If anyone is brain-damaged, it’s the jury who voted against the death sentence, not the Parkland murderer.
Ridiculous.
this trail has been going on forever,my hearts breaks for these families💔💔sending so much love to all 17 of the families
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Trial.
So absolutely devastating. But also so horrifying to think how strong glass made the difference of so many more lives not being lost that day.
Why is this being dragged out for so long? This was pre-meditative, stated for the sole purpose of being a famous shooter, and deliberately carried out without hesitation. Death sentence already geez.
Shut up already jeezzzzzz and stop saying jeeezzzzzzz it is disrespectful to our creator and our creator does not want us to kill for only he should have that authority to kill or not not us humans who are being manipulated by aliens at the moment
Thats a bit daft. He wants do die. I say let him rot in jail until he dies.
Nah no death sentence
Its all posturing
Because it gives people a boner to hear it in detail
Sad someones mind can become so distorted they think this is the right thing to do for their life. So disturbing hearing him get interrogated 'her head was split open, really sad to see' ....
Hug him ????? He is really crazy . !!!
@Queren hapuque go ahead it's all yours. Go before he dies 🤣🤣🤣
Stay there with him
@Queren hapuque that's sad, go outside young woman, he made that up for sympathy
@Queren hapuque Are you serious?
@Queren hapuque If you would have been there in his shooting path, he would have taken you out also.
@@bigvinnie3 She hasn't taken her meds
These poor families having to endure this long drawn out trial is terrible! It’s clear he knew what he was doing. It’s clear he knows right from wrong. What more does this trail need to prove? SMH My heart goes out to all the victims and families affected by this monster horrendous actions. Lock him up and throw away the key.
He already pled guilty to all 17 counts. What else is he supposed to do? The state doesn’t need to have the trial. They are in the driver seat. So are the parents. Just waive death. It’s simple. The state and the parents can’t have it both ways. If they don’t want to waive death, then the defendant has a right to a sentencing hearing. It was the State who chose to put on almost all of the victims family members to testify. The State’s side has been much longer than the defense piece. The government and the victims are responsible for the length of this proceeding.
The victims’ families requested the death penalty??? That’s unusual
@@intoodeepstl314 Some of them.
They’re not required to be there. The state will be killing Cruz, most likely. Its taking so long, largely because he killed so many and terrorized so many.
@@freedomring757 Sounds like it would been better to waive death. After all once he gets in with the prison general population he's got a good chance another prisoner will do justice for the victims.
My heart breaks for these families I hope justice is served. And the families could move on with the healing they need.
Sadly as the families have testified- they will never heal- only endure.
@@lynnfarley7859 I agree they will never fully heal. With everything that has happened.
Justice is served when the country and culture has mental health awareness, and understands healthy loving relationship dynamics, and we don’t neglect and abuse our own kind.
Only then there is justice. Your hate and eye for an eye mentality does nothing but perpetuate and create what you hate. Look in the mirror.
@@godofdogs6198 and you with all this eye for an eye would think the same things as these poor families did if you had your child murdered. Think before you start talking and not knowing for 1 second as a parent or sibling how you would feel. Or going on to someone’s comment to preach your feelings. And go troll someone else’s comment.
@3:52 The docs slight but noticeable reaction (To me atleast) to the punk saying pretty much that he ran out of humans to kill, is such natural human reaction. Stunned 😦 yet being professional and questioning him assertively, shows how quick that punk tried to switch up his story right away. 😒
Imagine blasting the halls of a school with an assault rifle... and expecting a hug...
What’s chilling is how coldly he’s describing shooting down human beings, he could be describing how to make a meatloaf smh 😢
He's fooling the defense. He knew exactly what he was doing. He planned the attack too well to be CRAZY.
It would be more understandable if they were fooled and believed he was innocent in any way. They know he's guilty and remorseless and it's still their job to defend him. I honestly question anyone that does that job. It's a necessary one but truly skincrawlingly disgusting to even think about. You can't have an ounce of empathy and compassion and be a defense attorney.
The inability to recognize how others are scared and worried is a new kind of crazy I ain’t never seen. He doesn’t care who he murdered. He would do it again. We know this and we get a bunch of clueless people on the jury who award him with rehabilitation?! No these victims died and are never coming back!
Rehabilitation? he has got life in prison and is never coming out. The ironic thing is that a life in a shitty prison is probably worst than being dead. Killing him through the death penalty means you stop his suffering. Keeping him alive is to make him suffer for what he has done. Yet so many people like you are so hell bent on 'revenge' that you don't even realise that being kept alive and forced to stay in prison for the rest of your life is a lot worst for that person than being dead is for them.
It's a bit late for rehabilitation, isn't it. The rehabilitation should have started in Pre-school. People never really helped him. The system is failing to properly deal with kids that are already aggressive in grade one. Even if they are in a special behavior class, no one deals with the kids in an effective and deep way. It is all rather more superficial. I think society instead wants to spend money else were instead of dealing with disturbed kids when they are very young.
@@donmac1243 I would agree with your point, personally I wouldn't want to live out my days in prison. However in this case Cruz is clearly scared to die, he wants to live. I think him staring death in the eye would be more impactful than being allowed to email, watch tv, talk with people, work out, he might even feel a sense of community in there, and he took all that and more from countless people with 0 remorse. Not in the name of revenge but I think he is sick enough to only be emotionally moved at all by staring death right in the face.
May the families of all the victims see Nickolas Cruz be brought to justice. God have mercy on the broken and lost - even if we cannot fathom it - I pray the families are able to forgive and heal so they have peace. I know I could not do it in my own strength. Jesus have mercy.
Well stated, good comment.
I cant even imagine what theyre going through but to hear him say "I couldnt find anyone else to kill and didnt think anyone else would be willing" made my stomach churn thise poor babies werent willing to begin with hes sick and i hope the jury gives him death instead of life, taxpayer dollar dont need to be wasted keeping this monster alive
This is one seriously messed up person.
He is only attempting to get sympathy and empathy. Emotions that he does not have. Evil is the only word to describe him
Call him sick. He is sick. Mentally ill. Born in his situation, with his DNA, family & environment, you’d do this same thing.
He is now locked away for life, a good thing, but Misery incomprehensible.
Demonizing humanity, humans that are sick, doesn’t solve the problem. Learn to understand the problem to prevent it.
Start with kindness & empathy if you want others to have it.
Even though there is tremendous pain and anguish from the aftermath of this massacre, I believe the 17 families that are so unnecessarily affected by this event will come out so strong. They will be soul mates forever, bound by this pain. They will do great things and they will bring about change. I know they will. The names of the departed will be forever immortalised and remembered. Their deaths though painful, will not be in vain. Their legacies will live on.
Remember if someone points an AR15 at you, hug them and they will not shoot you. This also works on bear attacks. "oh no a bear is charging me..... He must want a hug"
I don’t even know why this guys still breathing
I cry every time this happens
This dude is sick
BAD
Can't wait for him to enter the prison population for some true justice.
THANK GOD HE COULDN'T SHOOT OUT AT THE CROWD! MY GOD! 🤯🥺
I remember how in the room where Helena Ramsey and Nick Dorwet died the teacher said if he entered the room she was ready to tell the shooter we all love you
That would help
@@yewy100 well this guy wanted a hug so maybe he would have stopped
When?
@@zamzamwater8749 during the shooting the teacher said it on stand
@@xninjawolfx where can I find that at ?
When will this end, these poor families!
The fact that he didn’t get the death penalty is just incomprehensible..he shot over 30 fckn people an had fun doin it.
Cruz defense teams quit making BFF with him! Whispering, talking during the trial….Ugh! So unprofessional
wtf does he even mean when he said he thought the victims were going to hug him? did he think it would be a way of thanking him for killing him? or to beg for mercy?
I think he was referring to the moment when he was walking out with them before anyone knew that he was the shooter. They would've unknowingly hugged the shooter.
@@christie5628 that’s a possibility, but i think he meant victims as in people he killed.
I do not know how the parents or siblings of the victims can stand the way he is matter of factly recounting his actions. I would be howling in pain.
🐺
I would think anger
He’s fully enjoying this conversation
This trial has been so long. This trial started in the summer and now it's fall. And still ongoing he already admitted that he's guilty. These people still wanna drag this case. I feel sorry for the victims family that they still have to relive this everyday. They are making sure they don't leave any witnesses or doctors etc out to testify. I started watching some of it in the summer and stopped watching this case is long. I only watched some of the clips that shows up and that's it.
I would've like to go in for that "hug". Rip to the victims my condolences to the victims families
Yes, hopefully someone gives him a “hug” in prison. 🤔
@@UpwardNinja A butt hug💀
@@nathanieljaynes9088 Or better yet, a hug with a sharp object.
@@kebas239or both
His brother gave him a hug in the interrogation room but it was way too late for that
I can’t imagine what the families r going through this makes me sick to my stomach to hear😢😞
And to think the people we trust say that killing any human isn’t a mental disorder is really sad.
Well, gouverments kill humans all the time. Soldiers kill humans all the time, so they all have a mental disorder?
Well, considering that’s a defense ploy and a whole lot of people would be getting out on the technicality- let’s leave it at the 180 year old medical “does he know right from wrong.” It’s been proven already that people with poor to no prefrontal function can spout the rules while still finding it impossible to follow them.
Wait you think killing someone is a mental illness
Literally every human being is capable of killing. Lacking empathy isn't a mental illness, it's a personality disorder (antisocial).
This trial
Is the most attention he’s ever felt in life. He will go bigger if given another chance. Take him off this earth before he trains armies online to do the same.
Is this some sort of record for length of trial? Especially since we know the defense is going to appeal based on the judge’s handling of voir dire. Those poor families…😢
It wasn't a trial. It was a sentencing trial. Totally different
He sounds proud.. I hope closure comes to the victims without any problems 🙏
Why why why... Is this taking so long? 😩😭😭 God Bless the families and victims 💙 the community... 🙏👥👥👥Amen
this is actually really heartbreaking..
He’s clearly guilty. How is the case not closed here?!
It was a sentencing trial. The case was closed. They were just working out which way to go with sentencing
@@timb1319 life without parole or death penalty ! all those lives he took is enough to lock him in and throw away the key
@@Dollfacehalo yeah they were deciding between the two, but i think they went with life
“Why did you stop?”
“There was no one left to kill.”
I disagree demon…. This world would have been better off.
"Nasty and sad to see" is how just described shooting people. I don't understand....
this is so sad and horrific I hope he stays in jail and god teaches him his lesson
so god has the power to teach him a lesson, but not prevent this atrocity in the first place? um, ok.
Just give each family 5 mins alone with him 😠
I agree
@TrapGodisKing If that were my kid he did wrong. He’d be face to face with the devil himself.
@@slimskatie9524 Can i ask you a personal question? I would never do this in my life because i want people to do well and i have sense, i had a good birth and died spiritually, im not evil in the sense i want to harm others, but i am like him in the sense i have no true love in my heart, im empty, i know hell awaits me i just want human symphaty, do i deserve it?
I dont want to come to earth or whatever similar place again after millions of years in a demonic family and become like him, but i think thats how It works when you lose god
Calling this guy a psycho is an insult to psychos.
Wait, what did I just say?
Kid probably never received a hug or felt love and this is what it creates… evil smh his whole bloodline is cursed
His adopted mother loved him.
@@rochellesweet4775 that maybe so but there will always be a piece that wants for the biological mother. A question of why didn’t she love me ? Speaking from experience my adopted mother gave all the love she could to my younger siblings and that still wasn’t enough everyone of us has deep issues my brothers in and out of jail. It really does effect the brain when the mother is doing drugs when pregnant
If he hurt my child I know I could do it with zero regret.
Never fill your heart with this type of hate. I understand you but never fill your heart with hate
Hug him???
So you allowed him to change your good nature?
The Devil: my job here is done, onto the next one.
@@JohnjOcampo Well for my child I would have no problem
@@3emily that's your choice I'm only telling you that's the path to destruction and hell fire, vengeance is a sin.
How even would anyone hug him?? He didn’t even hesitate before shooting? That reminds me of the teacher who said if he were to enter she would say She loved him because who could shoot someone who said that.
What teacher?
@@zamzamwater8749 The teacher that had Nicholas Dworett.
I wonder if he meant when he joined them as part of the students retreating from the school. Maybe he thought they would all be hugging each other out of sadness and he would get to be included? I’m not even sure tbh the video never specifies what he meant by that.
@@mirandarivett that's an interesting theory. Part of the problem is he's not the most articulate person ever even among mass shooters
Wow. Most I have heard him speak. He is smarter than I gave him credit for. And the way he describes it. Doesn’t care
In the modern age of surveillance cameras that pretty much prooves everything not just buy explaining everything but also shows what happened, and we still gotta go threw long drawn out trials.
He stared at those family members delivering the victim impact statements without twitching a muscle. He and his filthy lawyers didn't believe a word any of them said. They are just a bunch of manipulative thugs who should all be in prison with him.
years ago this kid wanted to be hugged wanted valued. Would he have stopped If someone hugged him????
It's brazen to think you will receive a hug after you killed their family.
He should not be allowed to sit in that courtroom.
He is getting a kick out of hearing all those statements about the victims.
I’ve been following this case since day one , listening all the testimony an Nikolas interrogation an listening to his background background smh I can’t stop crying my heart go out to all parents an luv ones lost
And I also wanna say that I don’t feel like people take Mental illness serious
Beofre this horrific crime occurred there were an incredible amount of attempts to intervene and help NC throughput his childhood and teens. Between counseling, therapy (in and out of the home) medication guidance, strong parental, educational and communal support systems alongside many other interventional tactics and practices. Resources were available and used to 1+!learn I m7⅞teach and redirect his behavioral and other disorders. I am surprised I didn't hear anything about super ego or narsacism and/or pathological lying as part of his diagnosis.
I feel as though NC was spoiled. He didn't get the spankin he deserved when he was little. He had temper tantrums that continued to escalate. Each time they did so did the attention he received. When the attention grabbing tactics were no longer working or available he escalated it to the highest of evils. I have not seen or heard any testimony or in his own actions or words any type of remorse whatsoever. He speaks casually about premeditation, calculations and went on to describe the first 2 peers he shot as gross (blood was coming from their heads) and sad. Never have I seen true heartbreak, devastation or tears from him. No total breakdowns in despair for what he has done to victims and their loved ones. I only hear self preserving bragging attempting to show or convince the forensic psychologist how smart, clever and resourceful he is.
This is not mental, this was planned for so long. He did it for the thrill.
@@Curious-Irish-Angel well said 👏
I agree because I have mental health problems myself
The judge and the prosecutors did a great job .The jury failed.Condolences to all the families affected. by this horribleTragedy this ha to stop all these shootings
If he care by hugging someone then why he killed 17 people and injured 17 people 316 weeks ago?🤔
Why not say 5 years ago.
He loved every minute and still relishes it.DP!! Hug him! DP! He knew what he wanted to see….. hear…. He accomplished exactly what he wanted! This is an abomination. DP!!
Like if he should feel the embrace of the electric chair instead
Cruz: oh I just killed a bunch of people and I don't go to the school I killed them at
Them:, oh poor thing let give u ah hug
Us: OH BROTHER WHATS WORST THIS FOOL KILLING THAN ASKING FOR A HUG OR YOU LIKE REALLY GIVING HIM A HUG
Also Us:Smh 🤦🏽♀️
He'll get plenty of hugs in prison!🥰🥰
Why did you try to break the window ?
NC - I was going to try shooting the crowd …. Hearing someone say those types of things so calmly is eerie
When a village rejects a child the child may burn it down to feel it's warmth. Cruz's terrible upbringing blended with his cognitive deformities led to this tragedy. It's almost pointless to have this trial because neither outcome will bring meaningful comfort to the families involved.
It's not pointless. What's pointless is having it dragged out THIS long. While the outcome isn't going to 100% heal the families and take their pain away, it does help to bring justice and CLOSURE to the victim's families. Closure assists in the path of lifelong healing. Lots of people grew up "rejected by the village" and cognitive deformities, but they don't go and do these types of atrocities. It also doesn't make them free from consequence.
@@lunagoth9971 "it's _almost_ pointless to have this trial because..."
@@stoiccrane4259 "because neither outcome will bring meaningful comfort to the families involved" ??????
@@lunagoth9971 You're fighting with shadows because you fail to regard the fact that I posted the term "almost pointless".
Of course there's a point to the trial but it's empty and bittersweet for the families involved to the degree where they'd probably be better off not reliving the trauma on account of it.
Nope. He didn’t have to kill those innocent people.
He is not mad he is bad just bad ..how did those dear parents watch this just horrible 😢
Needle
Honestly, they should go back to electric chair
Firing squad
@@chrisitl Florida still has it, you know...
@@bens6865 Only in Utah still, I think. That's how Gary Gilmore was executed. He was the first inmate to be executed when the death penalty was brought back. '76 or '77 I think...
@BuildGUY kinda pre-Christianity, don't you think? That's the way St. Peter was executed.
Why even talk to the psychiatrist if he's just going to go and rat you out for everything you say
He is assessing for criminal charge purposes for further investigation he is not there to help him with his issues as a personal psychologist just trying to establish what’s happened why and trying to assess his psychological state confidentiality isn’t the object here as it is a criminal investigation.
Yeah...
He just needs a hug.
Really nasty and sad to see 🤨😱
Can't believe this trial is still going on..sheesh..
It was not a trial.