Is the 2022 Toyota Supra 2.0 a BETTER performance car than a Mustang EcoBoost?
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- The Supra is an iconic sports car name and Toyota brought it back. This Supra 2.0 is meant to be a value priced sports car. On the outside you will get the unmistakable lines of the 5th gen Supra. On the inside you will clearly see the BMW influence. Under the hood is a 2.0L turbocharged inline-4 that produces 255HP & is mated to an 8-speed automatic transmission. Is the 2022 Toyota Supra 2.0 a BETTER performance car than a Mustang EcoBoost?
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I bought one for mainly as daily driver. I've never been to any track for racing or street racing, and planning to anytime. Is a great car just to drive around town and cruise on highway. It just a great looking car. So far I am very happy with it.
Thanks for sharing that great input from your ownership experience!
Same here
Hey man would be great if you could let me know about your fuel situation, how many mpg’s are you getting?
@@mr.nolook7143 overall is about 28mpg. On highway you can get 30-32mpg. Unless u put on sports mode all the time
@@mr.nolook7143I get 27mpg on sport mode. I’m sure you can get 30
I miss seeing what;'s coming for your next car review in the "Community" section of your channel Joe. But I think the 2.0 Supra is for the consumer that wants the look and style of the car, saving some money, and getting better MPG.
Sorry Dan! I’ll make sure to start posting again!
I owned one of these for a short while. The mid range felt great but it does die off a bit in the upper RPM. The suspension was rough for my local roads though and you cannot adjust it. For the right price I think this is a awesome car and in the coming years I think there will be decent deals on them.
These can be tuned to make good power that matches the 6 cylinder stock. It also weighs less with better handling balance which makes it ideal for track use. In Japan the 2.0 is widely tuned.
@beexiong2995 the problem with that is that the expenses to make it as fast you might as well get the 3.0
@beexiong2995 I have the 2.0 I've had it for 2 years each mod is close to 2k new hood, new intake close to 600, new rims, new bigger turbo all more or less closer to 2k I use it as a daily and the street road is rough on suspension
@@mondragonmsaul308 What intake and turbo did you use??
@icenote1591 I haven't modded it yet it's still stock I was looking into mods and each thing like the intake, exauhst, turbo, the price came from 1k to 2.5k I can afford the car but honestly I can't justify dropping thousands at the moment
2.0T seems to be an underrated motor toyota was pretty smart pulling this more like a tribute to the a60 celica/supra .
I love my 2.0! I have over 16,000 miles and it’s is a joy to drive this front mid-engined sports car: great power around town, handles well and very light. The Mustang is the better choice for those want a larger and more practical sporty coupe with big back seat and more luggage space.
Quality and reliability has always been a Ford weakness though. I get it..
Lol big back seat. I own a S550 and there’s a lot to be desired in that department
I have a 2023 2.0. Great vehicle! I'm not concerned about the "fake vents" as I just consider it part of the design. If they weren't fake, there isn't much they would add to the air flow. I'm 71 and needed a fountain of youth and it's working. Growing new hair and put a pretty girl in the passenger side and I'm in diapers. It turns......incredible! No body asks if it is a 3.0 liter or 2.0 liter. The automatic transmission is smooth! I get better than 32 mpg on the highway. There is a guy who is over 7' tall and gets in and out with no problems. I'm 5'4" maximum. I don't speed and everyone passes me. I end up arriving at the red light where they have stopped. Air/heat? Great. I got the upgraded safety/audio system. Great!
Thats the spirit!
Oh, thank you! It is so much fun to drive. Not practical during the snowy season here but it's rare to have snow/ice on the ground for long periods of time in Colorado Springs. @@Me-eb3wv
Was great meeting you at Sarasota Cars & Coffee! I'm one of the staff but I had no idea I would see you there 😄
I would go for the Mustang without hesitation. The 2.3L EcoBoost engine is very underrated and quite powerful.
And 10k less $$$
@@tylerf9879 I don't own one but I've driven it and it is a very nice car.
Check out FordTechMakuloco's channel he talks about the 2.3 ecoboost gulping coolant. Ecoboost are nothing but problems. Ford designs stuff to fail after warranty expires.
@@joshm9003 As an owner of 3 mustangs in the past 11 years, you are Incorrect in your assessment.
@@slickrichelicopter8977 It is not "my" assessment it is exactly what is spoken on that video. Ford intentionally creates design flaws after warranty is up so you are forced to get it fixed by the dealer. Not to mention the mustang has already had numerous issues with the 5.0 typewriter tick and transmissions blowing shift forks etc outside of the ecoboost. Just because you might not have a problem doesn't mean others which is evident all over the internet. It is best to make sure people are aware instead of getting burned out of their earned money.
i hardly see sports cars anymore.. its all giant pick ups and suvs, and slightly smaller crossovers
Tell me about it!
Exactly… so ugly to look at tho
Exactly. But I do see a lot of pony cars as well.
I had that car for my rental car last year. It is a beast and crazy fun!
ty so much for the 2.0 review. it ssomething the wife and i are debating to get. the 3.0 is a bit too much money but theres not enough 2.0 reviews. so i appreicate it from the both of ya!
Hi, did you end up getting the 2.0? If you did what’s your thoughts?
Minus all the bmw parts in this but driving these are so much fun. Shame they don’t offer a manual on the 2.0 :(
Might be worth putting the extra and getting a 3.0 manual. Definitely puts the supra back into the ring with some competitors
Wow 2.0 does pops and bangs!
I need one of these cars, but I'm going 3.0. I had a 79 Celica XX in Japan and man was that thing a dog, I want to erase that bad memory with this beauty! Great review Team!!!
The 2.0 actually makes about 300hp at the crank. The fact that it does not a have a manual eliminates it from my consideration however.
I want to be buried in this beauty when my time comes.
Sounds like a plan!
Nice choice!😎
If this was AWD with a manual option, they coulda just named it the new Celica and I'd be interested.
That'd be too close to the GR Corolla
Ehh they could bring back both the celica and the mr2 with their platform tbh
Tongue wrestling! Always a good joke from the man himself! Great content as always brother! You and the Loritron are beasts!
Thanks Ruben for being so supportive!
a German Supra made in Austria with a Japanese badge on it 😂, holy cow.
Hi apostle Joe, I love the Toyota Supra and for me, thr fake vents give it some style so it's not just a plain old boring front fenders, hood, and sides I just hink wiithout those fake ventd it'd going to be a boring var
I think It's the Apostle to the Sports Cars and with a 4 cylinder gas it's a dandy.
Toyota Supra big change looks good .
I’m liking it in this color ! Thanks Joe and Lori ! And Steven 👍
We appreciate you Tom
To be honest, a Lexus RC 300 AWD would be a better value in my opinion. The Lexus is actually built by Toyota too.
Lexus RC-F is the actually Supra.
I’d save a little and go for a BRZ/86 with the manual. If I was getting a Supra I’d stretch for the 3.0.
Good call man!
I test drove this 2.0 and and even 3.0 is a no. Interior looks like a 5 year old BMW and the ride quality is just ok plus you don’t get prestige driving a Toyota product better off with a New modern BMW. GR86 is more fun and has a
More modern interior and exterior
@@mikemayers8672
True and I love the sound of a good flat 4.
I got a Supra 2.0 I live it very much great gas mileage and got it protuned all stock engine and stock exhaust makes 290whp and 360wtq stock number was 220whp and 280wtq! Feels fast and is super fun of course isn’t as loud and good sounding as a 3.0 but 30mpghughway going to work is great gets looks everywhere and people will always ask about it it’s worth saving 300 dollars a month on a payment for it and insurance is significantly cheaper on it too !
I’m highly considering getting the 2.0 and getting it tuned like you did, I’m sure it makes a big difference. I’m not much of a racer or track guy, don’t get me wrong I do like speeding from time to time but for me it’s more of the style for me love how it looks. Just a weekend car to go out with and have some good times and pass it down to my daughter once she gets older she can enjoy it as well. So I’m glad you shared your results, thanks bro
@@schwag3830as a 2.0 owner to me its not worth it. It’s fun at first then you get in other fast cars and realized you’re still overpaying. And even with tune and mods you get 70hp and have to pay 300-400 for mods. Then after a few months that thrill kind of goes away. I’m trading mine for a 2ss this week. The space is a killer also
@@schwag3830ohh and it’s the same engines as a Mini Cooper. My friend just bought the new Mini Cooper for like low 20’s and it’s just as fun for cheap. Tbh don’t go for the 2.0. I bought mine now knowing the difference lol.
@@Topgear.filmeras a 2.0 owner as well to me it’s both worth and not worth it. In 2021 when it came out I’d say it was worth it but as newer and newer cars came out like the integra type s and the new mustang it came to a hard sell in 2024 it’s not imo unless you get it used for 37-40k. new I’d say a 335i is a better bang for your buck I really like the 2 series redesign
@@mondragonmsaul308 ohh yeah I traded mine in a long time ago. Couldn’t justify what I got for the cost anymore. But you put it perfectly, when it first came out it was a thing to get. I mean I’d say if you have one with good payments or paid off keep it since it’s now discontinued.
3.0 manual..will be highly sought after in a few years
Going to enjoy this video thanks Raiti 😀
Thank you for sharing
You are so very welcome!
I’m going to place an order for a 3.0 manual Supra in the near future. The 2.0 literally has the same engine as my MINI 😅
WHAT oh no. Don’t let the internet find out they won’t let it down! 😂
I mean, both cars use the same BMW engine as the base Z4....so....
I just can’t get with getting the 2.0 knowing if I had stretched the dollar a little more I could have the more powerful version. I’d regret it regardless if it’s cheaper
3.0 ecu is locked and you are gonna end up doing the things you want which is why the 3.9 isn't worth the money. 2.0 you can tune it and do whatever you want with tripping out the ecu.
@@toreybettencourt9323 the 3.0 is not ecu not locked at all at least the 2020-2021 they are all kinds of videos u can find on it
@@TheSrgblade gonna look around. I was told when making changes on the 3.0 the ECU cause a bunch of headaches and warranty issues. I'm doing my research as we speak. Kinda leaning towards the supra, but have my eye on that fun looking BRZ for some reason
@@toreybettencourt9323 yea I really thinking of getting a 2021 I’m number one in my dealer for a GR Corolla but if they mark me up I’m getting a Supra
@@TheSrgblade check it out. The 2023 Toyota GR Corolla is a significant car in many ways. Most of all, it’s a properly fast, fun, and functional hot hatch. On top of all of that, its starting MSRP is just $36,995, but if one dealer gets its way, it’ll claw $60,223 out of the hands of a Toyota customer for a car that with the same options, should normally cost you $38,843 or $39,938 with delivery and handling. That’s a 50.8% markup ladies and gents.
So glad to see a car with more fake vents than my stinger!! Thx Joe!
It’s crazy for sure
This is my first sportscar! Nice video Joe.
You are the man Jeremiah
I'll take the Supra.
Thanks for your vote David!
It is very impressive. The numbers are great. With a tune it can be something quite quick
Raiti knocks itout the park again amazing and professional review
Thank you for the amazing review Sir
Seeing this review really makes me realize what a great value the EcoBoost mustang is, about 100 pounds heavier with about 70 more horsepower than this car, and I got mine for about half as much. I'm sure this will be appealing to a lot of people but I can't help but feel as if Toyota have priced themselves out of the primary demographic for this car. Thanks for pumping out the great content, I bought my Mustang after binging almost all of your Mustang reviews :)
Yup, was looking at these supras aswell and just couldn’t justify the price and the performance you get. Ended up getting a brand new veloster N, similar performance and like almost half the price
More like 300 lbs but yeah
I went from an Ecoboost Mustang to the 2ltr Supra a little over 3 months ago.
2 TOTALLY different cars.
To drive, the Supra is a class above, nobody can deny it but the Mustang was far more practical and I think it had more drama about it.
Love the Supra so far and loved the Mustang the 2 years I owned it, either car will do as a daily for most people.
Thanks for that ownership insight.
i’m in the same situation right now, im stuck between the GR86 or the 2.0 Supra, i currently have a ecoboost and looking to get one of those soon! how’s the speed in the 2.0 compared to the ecoboost?
Tongue wrestling?
My wife just asked what I was watching.🤣
That’s freaking hilarious
thanks
You are so very welcome!
Supra! Nice review Joe.
I am so glad that you enjoyed this one Jeff!
Compared to STI , which one is better?
Gt86
I think a Camaro 2.0L is a better comparison. VERY similar engine dynamics: 3500-5500rpm peak power range, doesnt like higher revs with no extra power over 5500rpm, tracking in 3rd gear is perfect, and low center of gravity which makes it feel very much like a sports car.
One thing that's really cool about the Supra is if you buy a new one you get a free NASA membership/Track day. I just did mine at PNW raceways w/ my ren red '22 3.0 and it was a great experience. IDK if you've seen the movie driving in the rain but it was ran by the guy the movie was based on. It was really nice of them to include that.
Ford gives you that too.
@@clearcut6818 I think thats only for the GT-500 tho unless their website is incorrect. Toyota gives one with every GR model which also includes 86 and Corolla.
This is true!
@@clearcut6818 Ford gives you a car for their program
@@evanz8666 actually Evan it’s with any Ford Performance product
3.0 is so fast , I love my 2022 Supra .
Raiti is a class act. Always great and informative videos. Thank you.
Looks great! Just seems priced a bit high considering the competition out there.
These should be low 30’s
What do you think the price should be
@@Freddy_Confetti an Elantra N is mid 30’s
@@RaitisRides should be right around 40-42.5. Especially with the new Z starting at 40. I mean if you go top trim for this around 47k you may as well shell out the extra 5 for the 3.0 lol
the color on this supra is badass..like if there was any color that would do this car justice it would be this one. my choice would go to the bmw supra though lol
I saw this car in this color drove by me yesterday and it looked really good
It’s an old man retirement home colour
@@mohamedalkaboom , Huh?
@@Rocket9944 grey
0:10 My son: "Daddy, he doesn't know how to park."
I love it Joe and Lori and keep up the good work and I love the video 👍 💯💯💯
You are so very awesome Dominic!
Loving the Supra videos!
I would prefer the Miata over both I think. If the Supra came in AWD I would give it a look over the Miata.
Mx5 I guess it's called now.
It’s always nice to have options
@@steveg1054 MX-5 or Miata. Mazda still uses both!
Awesome review
I would take the Ecoboost easily....especially the HPP.
The supra handles much better and also drives better as a daily.The mustang has more punch thats for sure and looks better.
@@alpe6228 idk man the hpp handles better I think
I think for the avg consumer this car is more than enough. If your an enthusiast then go for the 3.0, you should have the budget for the fines 😂,
The nonfunctional air vents can you go aftermarket and make them functional I was always wondering that
I dont think so, the ones on the hood you can change but not the ones on the bumper
Nice 🚗 nice review keep up the good work Joe
You got it Marcus!
In my opinion they should just drop the 2.0 and replace the a turbo 86 that has the GR Corolla Powertrain. Keep it RWD though.
I know for 2023 the Supra could be had with a 6 speed manual
Supra has my vote.
Thanks for sharing your vote
This car makes the GR Corolla even more attractive
At dealer markup, ehhh
@@trdrav4 You don't think the Supras are getting marked up?
@@jamessicat Manual ones probably
If you got a 2.0 automatic, you might regret not getting the 3.0 manual
Thing looks like a 2018 Honda Civic with all these curves
I’m to disappointed with the steering wheel to want one of these sorry but I’ll stick with the Prius at the 37K and I’m not a ford buyer here at all but love Rattis Rides you two are the best in the business Thank God ❤❤❤
I would prefer to get the Z4 M40i.
It should be "If you're ready, I'm Raiti!"
But seriously, I just Built My Own on Toyota's website and have more zonks! There are few options, with just one of 2 package choices. No manual transmission option and it says it's only compatible with IOS phones. Big deal-breaker!
Subaru WRX - 2.4L Turbo 271 HP AWD 4DR
Love it. Would buy this…
Really wish Yota would've just thrown this power plant in the 86 and just offered the Supra with the 6! But everything is all about $ and guess some numbers guy told them it wouldn't be lucrative! Oh well. Great review as always! ✌🏽❤️✊🏽
Same
Are you in San Diego?
No we can home
It's a beautiful sports car remind me something be in a movie 🎬.
What's about the shifting compared to A10 Mustang? Which one in more responsive to paddle shifting? Thanks!
The Supra wins.
I like how he uses food measurements that's why I watch lol 😆
I like the 2.0 but I’d probably just go for the gr86 at that point and save money.
That sounds like a good plan to me!
44-47k?
You could get a nicely equipped Mustang PP1 or Camaro SS for that!!!
In todays market? Not to sure about that
I love this car .. That V6 is cool but maybe too crazy and tail happy . It's rains a lot where I live and this version looks a little more controllable for everyday use , at least for me.
This is so very true!
255hp/295ft.lb. 150+mph Top Speed is all any enthusiast needs away from the track. MPGs are great, handling is tops, while the price is a bit high. But the quality is super.
For me, the bulbous design is out of the question. Mazda Miata RF for me.
If the 2.0's were more common at dealers, probably would've gotten one over a GR86
Honestly 86>>>2.0 Supra if it’s the 3.0 different story there
This is more expensive than a civic type r and a civic type r is faster too
@@YTkingcherry only reason why I want a 2.0 is so that I can daily it. If it was a second car, then 100% I would go for a 3.0
I keep debating keeping my 2013 FRS vs buying a 2.0. My FRS is modded to my liking, paid off, and has 0 problems. Do you think I would regret having a 2.0 and a car payment?
I would keep your FRS
@@RaitisRides Good advice , Joe.
Keep the FRS!
I have had many cars including 2.0 Supra .Frs was my favorite car. Now Supra 3.0 is where it’s at just no backseat and lose a little steering feel. There is a lot of hate for no reason other than it’s a Zupra.
@@RickStarzz you think the 3.0 is worth the price? I’m trying to justify spending that much money
Another great vid Joe. Bought an Oxford White Ecoboost with the black out package and totally love it. This is definitely a fantastic looking car. Especially the red.
Hi...Is that a copy of the stinger taillight surround?? Thx Joe!
Not at all
How much are these I want one
2.0? maybe. 3.0 has way more horse power than the 2.0 though. I was thinking of getting a 2.0 but it only has like 50 more hp than a camry. 3.0 is 100+ difference in horsepower. Definitely saving up for one cant wait.
Why don’t you compare the AMG GLA45 to this? 2.0L and all German and such?
Wonder if anyone has driven this and the new 230i, and how they compare. Same drivetrain, of course different size weight. You get 2 so what usable back seats in the 230i
I wish there was a video comparing those 2. Just bc I really like the 230i
This BMW (cough cough) I mean, Toyota Supra, is magnificent in its performance Joe!
I like what you did there!
@@RaitisRides If only BMW could help design the new Camry! That would be something to see.
I'm waiting for the day some Supra 2.0 owners fully manual swap their 8-speed auto using the stock A91 manual shifter and if they do, maybe that person will let you drive their manual transmission 4-cylinder Supra once they do it.
For the same HP and less $ I'd rather get a 230i
I know. Totally different cars but whatever
We got the same shoes in the same colour lmao
The bear reality distortion zone can ACT AS A TRUE SPUR. Before reality hits-that your hand is weaker than bear’s-do a strong fold. Yesh?
Cool car, but my mx5 2.0l is more rev happy.. its a part of the fun. So hmm depends on how you drive and usage.
Although a four-cylinder Supra may sound sacrilegious to diehards, there's a silver lining. R&T also reported the four-cylinder model will be the ideal candidate for inevitable 2JZ swaps; the 2JZ is Toyota's famed inline-6 engine found in the MKIV Supra. The car's chief engineer Tetsuya Tada encouraged future Supra owners planning on 2JZ swaps to "please buy the four-cylinder. It will be cheaper."
I like the Supra but it's to Expensive, like your gonna be spending over 65K in canada for the 2.0 you can get a mustang ecoboost or a Camaro for cheaper that's more bigger and has more power
I'd get the 1SS Camero with the manual trans.
4:13 if you squint really hard it starts looking like a RX8
Yikes on the price!
What car(s) do you have. Are they manual?
Shelby GT350R, Camaro ZL1 1LE, Subaru WRX STI. Yea
@@RaitisRides Masculine vehicles only he’s a man’s man darn it.
As soon as Joe said $44k I laughed out loud. You can definitely get 450+ HP GT for cheaper than this 2.0. Yikes!
*GIVE US 6MT ON THE 2.0T TOTOYA!*
2.0t Supra >> (Crap) Ecoboost
Is it possible to add the 3.0 rims to the 2.0 ?
It's just 19inch rims so yea