UAS Traffic Management Pilot Program (UPP)
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- UAS Traffic Management (UTM) is a federated-based, cooperative traffic management ecosystem in which UAS operators and commercial service suppliers manage operations below 400 feet, with rules of the road established by the FAA.
The videos depict activities from the UTM Pilot Program (UPP) Phase 2, which was completed in 2021 in cooperation with NASA, industry stakeholders, UAS Integration Pilot Program (IPP) participants, and selected FAA UAS Test Sites.
It would be nice if the people in the FAA would actually be involved in the recreational model aircraft hobby. It's pretty clear they don't understand how recreational model aircrafts are actually flown.
You'll see bigfoot first.
Agreed, and its even worse that they make the laws and dont know what their uses really are in a community.
As someone pointed out, you don't need a licence plate on your own property, if you're lucky enough to have the space to fly! RID was only to be for I.D. not for data collection! Out of all the law enforcement persons on the ground - no-one had a F.A.K.? And another thing, launching drones (hate calling them that) from an International Airport? Isn't that what pretty much started all this ridiculousness?
How about we focus law enforcement where it’s needed…skyrocketing crime rates in major cities, instead of chasing down people with sub 250g drones enjoying recreational flying! The FAA has its head up its ass!
As a drone pilot, I am almost embarrassed for you. This video was put together by people who were supposed to be knowledgeable about air space. It is almost shameful that the FAA will keep comparing remote ID to the license plate on your car. The registration sticker is more like a license plate, than remote ID. The general public could look at my license plate all day and do nothing with it. But that is not the same for remote ID. This video with the unrealistic scenarios, especially the United Nations softball game. The delivery drone bought pizza to the softball game so the players can carb load. You watch too many Marathon videos. You carb load the night before. Unrealistic scenarios. To someone who has been flying for more than seven years, this is embarrassing. If this is what they're going to do with remote. All the FAA is doing is setting the police department up for unwanted phone calls crying and complaining about drones in parks and in our airspace. Now you want to go back into your remote ID archives and start to harass drone pilots for a flight that took place a few days ago. I hope the intelligent pilots among us see this for the nonsense that it is and says something about it. This video suggests weaponizing the public against drone pilots of all kinds. Why won't the FAA just ban drones, except for the ones that they want to fly? Don't play with it FAA, Do it expeditiously! The FAA should look forward to non-compliance. This video is about remote ID. The FAA thinks there are a lot of drones in our airspace. Before I watch this video only 260 people view it. And only 10 comments. Oh yeah, you're going to get non-compliance when this rolls out. I knew it was coming but I didn't think they were so out of touch with it. Drone pilots if you're reading this I urge you please contact your local Representatives write them and let them know you're concerned about this.
I could not agree more. The FAA is creating regulation at the behest of large commercial operators who want to fly drones beyond line of site. This is about taking control of all the airspace for the operators. Their lame attempt at giving scenarios to justify the regulation shows what a stretch it is. This is a solution seeking a problem.
Agreed
This is poorly produced and the situations in this video are absurd.
I agree and disagree. The the FAA is behind the industry. I'm a US Air Force Vet. We need to regulate, but keep in mind that the UAS is 100 times safer than current manned aircraft that weighs tons not to mention they are carrying fuel. They need to get Drone Deploy involved too. There are probably hundreds of flights that are flown autonomously every day with drones that are the size of a bird. That means we may lose site from time to time, but we know exactly where it is from our remote and the flight mission it's on. And many times they are flying over people too. But if it's a construction site everyone are wearing hard hats. It's my opinion that all of us drone pilots needs to be 107 qualified so we understand the airspace around them and are responsible enough to fly.
The general public can't do any more with your RID than with your license plate number. I like the idea that I could at least report some idiot buzzing people in the park or hovering over my back yard violating my privacy spying on my daughter sun bathing. I think these, or future regulations, are intended as a framework for ATC in denser urban areas if and when point to point transportation becomes common. It remains to be seen how the authorities will react to complaints and violations. I wouldn't worry too much about it becoming a big problem for responsible, respectful, FPV operators operating in appropriate areas.
Thank you FAA for claiming to be concerned about safety when clearly other motives and concerns are actually the case..
At least it's honest!!
We see the interests of government overreach....
We see the interest of big companies etc...
We see everything except people's rights being upheld, & the interest of Recreational & small commercial pilots!!
They are either not mentioned, or portrayed as the problem or enemy.
Good job FAA.... THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS of people will now decide not to comply at all, in any way.
License plate for the sky they said... That was complete bullshit!
My license plate doesn't tell police where I was last week. Or where my exact location is when the car is running. It doesn't have an app so the "🤬" down the street can be alerted everytime I drive....
License plate for the sky. What a joke
I find if sad and telling that the FAA is so clueless about recreational operations... and they show a FPV freestyle drone being used as a camera ship 'to get a better view' (This is NOT what these drones are a tool for / even good at) further demonizing recreational users which have a safety record General Aviation only wishes it could match.
If you mandated this on cars at even the same cost (never mind if they were as much as the cost of the craft, as is the case with UAS) you'd be laughed out of office. The license plate analogy is also a bad one as we are already mandated to mark the drones with our registration numbers, like a license plate. The better analogy would be make car owners buy a device that costs as much as the price of their vehicle to broadcast their license plate and operator information to benefit Instagram live streamers... FAA can you see yet what a farce RID is?
Bad guys will be bad guys. Do you honestly think someone who is doing something nefarious will go buy a $300 module to guide police to their location?
PLEASE stop the misinformation that this is a safety thing.
They are clueless bureaucrats. Small drones are not a significant problem, especially when compared to other risks in like. It would be like requiring bicycles to have seatbelts and airbags, because those safety devices save lives in cars. Apples and Oranges.
it's not about safety, it's about control.
I've been flying RC airplanes for over 3 decades. Always dreamed of being able to let my son experience the same joy of rc modeling and flying that I experienced. I now see however, that is not going to be possible.
But hey, everyone knows that the criminals will certainly follow these rules and regulations.
Yeah just look how much gun laws keep people from getting shot, and how well traffic laws keep accidents from happening, and how well the war on drugs has kept drugs off the streets. And look how well anti terrorism laws that took our rights, have kept us safe!
Yes indeed, I have no doubt that this will be every bit as successful as everything else that's been done. Garrr-uhn-teed
Rules are for criminals silly citizens 😂
I highly doubt Congress meant to shut down the model aviation hobby when they said there need to be some drone regs. The FAA has just taken ALL the slack available and just ran with it. They are now using it to sell the airspace to commercial interests and are killing one of the biggest fields to get people into aviation. That whole pilot shortage they are always talking about is only going to get worse. The FAA lied about the price, size, weight, and price of RID equipment because they had no idea what they were talking about and just pulled numbers out of thier asses. Every RID unit developed so far is expensive, heavy, and bulky. The FAA should be sued on this basis alone, not to mention all the other reasons.
I think FAA is get suited for something like this
The Undue burden to pilots to comply with RFID should put the rollout on hold until RFID tech cost the $50 dollars the FAA said it would...
They have already been sued but it failed. But this video is similar to propaganda as they misrepresent everything.
The FAA used to have a mandate to promote aviation in addition to maintaining a safe airspace. They non longer do anything but look for potential risks to combat. Model aircraft were the primary way most of us became interested in aviation. The FAA is going to kill the future of aviation as people will have fewer and fewer opportunities experience the joy of flying a radio controlled aircraft in any meaningful way. This nonsense will not make anyone safer in any meaningful way and this will cause more problems than it solve. The FAA has lost its way.
if not for the aircraft hobbyist/enthusiast aircraft may not have even existed.
@@skesseks Exactly. The FAA has all but killed general aviation, unless you're super wealthy, now they're doing their best to kill model aircraft.
If it wasn't for government we'd all be screwed 😂
The FAA seem to be completely out of touch when it comes to RC aircraft in general. The scenarios laid out in this video are supposed to justify the need for remote ID but demonstrate the opposite. (a solution seeking a problem) None of the examples given are issues that would arise. In one of the scenarios an example of a kid is flying his drone over people at the park and the local sheriff and FBI are responding to investigate this crime? Does anyone really think this is justified? How many resources will be expended to find out the drone was sub 249 grams and did not require remote ID and could legally be flown over people? Or in the case of a drone with remote ID; Making an app available to the general public that will be able to read the remote ID of a drone so they can better report it to authorities because they perceive something illegal is being done by the drone operator? People call the police all the time to report things that are not illegal, just something that person does not like; And the police will come and investigate all the while be completely ignorant of FARs Part 107 or airspace. All of this regulation is being created to make it more difficult for the hobbyist to use the airspace that the commercial operators want explicit control over. The average "Karen" may complain about Amazon or Walmart delivery drones, but being who they are will automatically legitimize them and officials will ignore the calls. For the average hobbyist they can expect to be harassed at every turn by both the uninformed general public as well as the uninformed ignorant police.
Driving your car with a license plate doesn't broadcast the operator telephone number. What an invasion of privacy. The fact that anyone can strap a paramotor on their back and take to the skies without a license, training or any kind of tracking devices, but fly a 250.1 gram drone requires registration and RID is absolutely absurd.
Just to be pedantic. Over 249.9 grams...
Actually, they've been using our license plates on our cars to invade our privacy for a while now. Ever since license plate readers became a thing. But that's besides the point.
Good point!
Don't forget they are also collecting "Historic Data"... i.e. mass surveillance and recorded database of all flights with Remote ID.
It's not even that it would broadcast your phone number. It would be like if it broadcasted your home address.
Big thing that's wrong with RID is that now people know where you are, and know there is at least 1000 bucks in equipment there, let alone pro setups that may have 10,000 dollar equipment at the launch site
Right, drones are the scary problem, not the lack of universal ADSB on 1090mhz for all manned aircraft, which would allow other aircraft to sense and avoid.
What FUD.
Dispatch poorly trained and under funded thugs with guns to stop Johnny at the park from having fun with his drone. Thats the really scary situation.
Johnny at the park, while just having fun, was also being a dumbass and flew right over a crowd
Not to say that flying over a crowd can't be safe, but shit happens. What happens if the RX fail-safe'd and dropped out of the sky into said crowd?
If you want another case of 'shit happens', just today I went to fly a wing; it has auto-launch capability, all electronics were in check, and it should've launched fine. Instead, the wing went down during the launch and the FC wouldn't give radio control back, so it ran itself into the ground for no blatantly obvious reason.
Or another case; a buddy of mine was flying LR, he activated RTH, it started moving in the opposite direction, fail-safe'd, and fell out of the sky over a residential area.
@@mythrillium2 you check the registration on the UAS, kinda simple.
BVLOS is actually the only use case where I'd support a version of R-ID.
@@N0FPV and that's why we have remote id now; most commercial flights are being done autonomously without someone immediately watching the UAS
Not saying I'm going fully compliant, but I get the need for the system. Still not putting it and GPS on my freestyle quads, but freestyle and racing don't seem to be of significant concern to the FAA just based off this vid
You can still drive a car without a license plate, but your options of destination are significantly lower. If you know you're not doing anything bad, then fly, don't worry about the remote id. Now if you are doing something that goes outside the risk of basic park flying, then you might consider it if the number of UAS in the skies goes up
@@mythrillium2 the RID system as proposed and currently implemented is the issue. Not the concept, conceptually RID could be workable, if ADSB was mandatory for all manned aircraft. It isn't. Further it's allowed to exist on two different RF frequency, but only in the US. That's just dangerous and stupid.
This is not a workable version of RID.
RID is not a license plate, is a megaphone mounted on your hood, shouting your PII.
Bad actors are not going to be stopped by RID, but entitled Karen's will be empowered by it. Understand the difference.
@@mythrillium2 and in wich case would RID help to avoid that? A shield on the drone, registration and compulsory insurance would have been a much better way. Now nobody will be able to comply except the non existing Amazon drones. This is so restrictive it shows its true intentions are not safety-oriented.
Thank god, I feel so much safer now without any freedom!
Wow, FAA, you really that Clueless about Drones, the Size and usage. THIS Video so full of Non-facts and scare mongering, it's unbelievable.
Welcome to the socialist government that is in power right now. Scare mongering, is their entire structure. Kinda like the nazi did turning citizens on citizens.
You're doing it all wrong.
And we're all laughing in your face.
I find it funny that FAA pushes the "safety" aspect while injecting all these imaginary commercial drone operations into these scenarios. Commercial drones flying from an international airport? Does it have ADSB? No. Does it file a flight plan that notifies ATC and manned aviation in the area? No. But little Johnny has the FBI sent after him.
How much of my tax money was spent on this ridiculous video? Judging by the amount of stock footage, I'd say it was too much.
Reminded me of last night's Rookie episode written by a want a be during the writer's strike. If there is a way to make them accountable for this liable..let us find and fund it.
I agree with you except. If you are going to fly a drone in controlled airspace you have to get prior authorization..
This is the most ridiculously contrived scenario I’ve ever heard of 🤣🤡
Congrats FAA. You have just killed a great hobby. Karen's everywhere who don't have a clue about drone laws will have 911 on speed dial. Because according to this high budget & low educated video, a Mavic Mini (which doesn't need RID) is now automatically a nefarious drone. UAVs are treated as normal aircraft under law. So when a non ADS-B plane or helicopter doesn't show up on my FlightRadar24 app am I supposed to treat it the same? Why is ADS-B optional but RID mandatory? Why are you telling people just because a drone is broadcasting RID that makes it safe? This video is a perfect example of the disconnect between the regulators and us, the regulated. I'll be amazed if this embarrassing video doesn't get deleted soon.
everyone should flag this video as false information. since it quite literally is.
Sorry, but public does not have access to the license plate database to get location of the vehicle driver only police and government officials. That is the way the RID should work not the way you have it set up now.
Oh I see now. And feel so much safer. Thank you, government people, from protecting me from the hobby.
drones are the new lawn darts.
😂
What joke this is. 😓😤
I am actually embarrassed for today's FAA. When I first started working with them in the 1980s they were quite competent but sometime from then to now they have become completely clueless and themselves a bad actor.
They’ve turned into the Airplane ATF
Just think a good chunk of what is going on with the FAA stemmed from the "war on drugs". In the 1980's that was the birth of many "war on drugs" laws and enforcement. The 1970's started it all when Nixon declared "The War on Drugs". They planned and developed many aspects of how to combat the "drugs" in the 1970's and in the 1980's they started to enforce things more and hone that system.
Also if you take note it was also in the 1980's when they started to lower the standards for becoming a police officer. It was also in this time that the training for cops changed into more SWAT training vs anything else. In the 1990's the older cops started to retire and fade out of the enforcement side of things and the younger ones trained in the SWAT tactics started to become more prominent. By 202 the majority of the old way trained police officers were gone and nothing but the younger ones remained so they ramped up the "officer safety" crap that got coupled with the SWAT training. Cops today get away with a lot more than they did back in the 1970's and 1980's. Also to note it was int he 1980's when "civil asset forfeiture" became a thing. They way it was presented to the public made it sound like a great idea. Just look at how that is being abused today.
Don't even get me started about the TSA and that cluster fuck of stupidity.
I am ashamed that I worked my entire adult life for the FAA. UAS RID and all of Part 107 is an over reach of government.
Drug smugglers will now be able to identify law enforcement drones. But the smuggler's drone without RID will be able to do whatever it wants without being identified. Laws don't stop criminals and bad actors.
No drug smuggler is going to smuggle with a hobby drone. One Mexican immigrant running across the border with a suitcases is a more reliable and cheaper way to carry the tiny payload that a drone can carry.
@@IMJacksCompleteLackOfSurprise Pretty sure I've seen reports where they were doing that. All you gotta do to make up for lack of capacity is make more trips. Naturally, they're not going to be installing RID or having the FBI descend upon them as seen in this super realistic video.
They've been used to smuggle drugs into prisons many times. Smithsonian Magazine published an article in 2020 about a drone delivering 7 pound packages of heroin across the border, four flights, 28 pounds of heroin delivered. That occurred in 2015, border patrol spotted the delivery on a remote camera. So you know they're delivering bigger payloads now. But the darned Danny and his fpv drone, that's where the problem is 🤨.
This is going to do nothing but create new Karen's and escalate interactions with them and distract the police from doing what they should really be doing..
I can't believe there's not one fpv pilot in the FAA to explain our perspective of what we do
This s***'s hard enough trying to figure out how to repair and configure now we have to deal with this s***
just like gun registration... will have ZERO impact on villains
License plates transmit gps coordinates that are data logged?
I assure you that Danny doesn't give two 💩 s about "getting a better view" with his FPV drone.
So are you telling me that the FAA is going to expect current law enforcement to enforce their regulations? Are they receiving additional manpower and funding to do this?
They can't even be trained not to beat handcuffed individuals. Does the FAA actually expect them to learn all of this and implement it correctly?
What I see coming from this is that people who actually use RID are going to have people use it to geolocate them and rob them of their expensive gear, or will be harassed and have their rights violated by ignorant law enforcement. Either way, hard pass.
i hadn't thought of that. Unfunded mandates, isn't that something the FEDs can't require of a local LEO?
So when are birds gonna be required to have remote ID? Because I’m terrified that a bird may be flying illegally and could cause harm to me by pooping on me and get away because it didn’t have remote ID
This violates the 4th amendment. I don’t care what the DC circuit says. They don’t even know what a drone is.
Clearly shows. I really hope they do not do this crap with remote ID and remove the video.
That's your 🤬 congress for you. Government in general now days. Very disconcerting....
Thanks FAA. We hate it
this is disgusting, you guys are way out of line
There is so much misinformation in this video about remote ID and the FPV UAS hobby it's comical. Use case 5 in particular creates a scenario that is so abstract, so unrealistic that it causes me to question whether it was reviewed by anyone with any common sense before being filmed and published. Remote ID is not supposed to provide information about whether a UAS is authorized or not authorized to operate anywhere. In fact it isn't supposed to indicate authorization at all.
What this video does tell us is that the data being transmitted by remote ID devices is being collected and stored without our consent, and it sounds like it could be used against us after the fact. This does not bode well for hobbyists.
what a joke
Karen will be so happy to have this capability!
Remote ID needs a broad exception for safe and responsible hobbyists. Rather than policing this ridiculous and impossible technological requirement, the FAA should be encouraging the next generation of pilots and aerospace engineers to build and fly model airplanes and fpv quadcopters. Don’t kill rc aviation to promote some far fetched security goal or to promote drone door dash.
I think a more reasonable approach would have encouraged more pilots to comply. I'm afraid this will force complete non-compliance amongst the majority. Remote ID was supposed to make the airspace safer. With the initial rules and basic registration this may have been true. Most pilots were checking for LAANC approval and at least knew they were not interfering with other manned and/or commercial UAV operations. Do you really think thats the case now? What about when remote ID rolls out in Sept?
I've said multiple times that expanding upon legal privileges would've been an excellent way to encourage adoption, but it's 100% negative for the operator.
This has Big Brother, Orwellian written all over this. It's not about safety at all.
Bahahaha these scenarios are ridiculous, this is so funny! 😄😄😄
As a freestyle quadcopter pilot that doesn't even go above the treeline I am extremely upset that you are threatening our hobby. We don't even get in your airspace to even be a concern. 10 feet off the ground for 3 minutes at a time is not a crime. I shouldn't have to install RID for a toy hobby it's absolutely ridiculous. You really need to look at our section of the hobby and exclude the homemade drones like the EU is doing with their drone laws! if I was out of Line of site and flying way high up I would understand completely. I think those that are in the air space probably should register but for my small little side hobby it's ridiculous.
#FREEDANNY FYI our freestyle drones don't sit and hover and watch games and such we are on full acro mode with no automated flying
That scenario has the police the FBI & sheriff involved in a ball game as if real crime doesn't exist.
Danny flies a five inch FPV quadcopter, so he must have some skill and knowledge. He's at the park so he's flying in between trees, and he's not checking out the game because his drone isn't any good for that and Danny knows that, unlike the FAA. Dodo's Pizza on the other hand is somehow safe to operate its UAV because the producer of this video says so.
Villifying FPV and locking down model aviation that has decades of history showing its the safest sector of aviation.
License plates don't gather surveillance information on drivers BTW. The FAA has it's own echo chamber, not interested in hearing anything out of their own narrative. That's why they still don't have an understanding of UAVs and model aviation community.
right? poor danny couldn't see the game through his camera if he wanted to lolol
So RID is for peace of mind for the public. Ok. So using that argument. Attach RID to all known pedophiles. So I know they are nowhere near my kids.
dude i have made this exact argument before, let's remote id the real criminals, and have an app that dings an alert when they are around
10 star comment right here
The ignorance of the people who created this video, is only exceeded by the ignorance of those at the faa who created these laws. I honestly think these laws were designed to regulate a hobby out of existence.
Walmart and Amazon bought the airspace, and the FAA is being used to kick the yokels out. It's that simple.
The production quality of this video is truly outstanding. Almost like the FAA made it using a cash injection from DJI. I know they would never utilize taxpayer dollars in such an irresponsible way, so I am glad that it appears they are working directly with the CCP instead. I cannnot wait to totally comply with this regulation, so stoked!
If the FAA isn't tracking the number of issues between smart drones and hobby drones, why are they painting hobby drones as the bad drones. Why is a Deputy calling in for a splint and not EMS? Why wouldn't the athletics trainer or field have a splint? Why is a racing drone being used for a better view of the game? It would be like watching the game through your phone with no zoom capabilities. Why would Danny put Remote ID in his drone for Karen to harass him at the park. As a lock keeps honest people honest. If someone is going to be flying where they are not supposed to they can just do it anyways without a remote ID.
I'm trusting a Deputy who has no splint to properly apply one? I'd rather call a Boy Scout who is prepared with a length of paracord and a few sticks...
The Right To Remain Silent!
It seems that, as far as a sUAS goes, a RID unit transmits all sorts of personal information about me. It also seems that that information can be received by someone in law enforcement. However, under US Miranda laws I have "The right to remain silent."
It seems to me that requiring me to speak or "transmit" my personal information - to even potential law enforcement personnel - violates my right to Remain Silent. Since when can any government agent, local police or some FAA "enforcement person" demand information from me? Particularly without reasonable cause (to suspect that I have violated the law)?
I have a right to Remain Silent and therefore have no obligation to communicate any of my personal information to any law enforcement entity. If the FAA wants my personal information they need to inform me (everyone) that I (we), in deed, have a right not to provide such personal information. If the FAA (or other law enforcement personnel) decides to arrest me connected with my sUAS activities, they will need to hire a lawyer to defend me since I can't afford one.
The FAA should inform ALL UAS pilots that we have a right to not communicate/transmit our personal information - that we have a Right to Remain Silent! That we have a right to not voluntarily provide our personal information via any RID device.
Thank you FAA on wasting our money on a video that’s completely disconnected from reality. The productions value is half decent so I’m sure it wasn’t cheap and yet basically no views. The part I love is like most things this only effects the people who are trying to follow rules…
This video is a 508 violation. The CC doesn't coordinate with the audio.
from the government that enforces such violations, no less!
This is absurd. We really need 3 different government agencies to stop a kid in a park from playing with a toy that is safer than a skateboard? Has there been a risk analysis done? What does the cost benefit analysis look like? How does this stop nefarious actors? I don't think taxpayers will be happy to find out this is where their hard earned money goes. Shame on you.
What a load of absolute rubbish! Really, did somebody actually get paid to make this video? The FAA should demand its money back.
Karens in the US are a bigger problem than drones
I‘ve been flying fpv & rc airplanes for 5 years and I have never seen somebody beeing injured by an rc plane or fpv quad
8:10 I'm not sure if you're trying to insult everyone else's intelligence, or if you simply lack any yourselves. How is "Danny" going to catch a good view of the game from his freestyle quad (Analog low resolution video feed and a max flight time of about 5 minutes) while the cameras have an uptilt of what looks to be about 20-25 degrees? The cameras aren't on a gimbal so if he wants to see the game he'd have to point the whole quad toward the ground at a pretty steep angle. Which means he's either going to have to increase his throttle quite a bit, making the quad move at a high rate of speed, or he's going to have to dive bomb into the ground. All of which is a moot point since us freestyle pilots don't waste our limited flight time "sight seeing". Either way, that part just shows how out of touch you are with what recreational drone flying actually entails. Especially when it comes to FPV.
Furthermore, most of the flying we do is relatively close to ourselves, mainly within VLOS, and typically below the tree line (Sometimes just above the trees by a few feet). There's nothing fun to do way up high with a freestyle quad. Which means that anyone who sees our quad and is curious about it, will see us sitting there as we fly. No need for transponders and apps. But we all know that this is more about control and violation of privacy more than anything. Otherwise you wouldn't stupidly mandate that RID be used for flights on your own private property, even if that private property is several square miles in size. Which means that the RID signal wouldn't even be able to be picked up outside of your private property due to it's range limitations. No one would ever be able to know you were flying there at all, yet you want to act like this is some huge national security or safety risk. Get real.
I also think you're trying to be sneaky and circumvent the NPRM process to some degree. You're having CBOs create guidelines (that apparently aren't law but we still need to follow them in order to be in legal compliance) and telling us that we have to choose a CBO's guidelines to be flying under. The thing is, you've given yourselves the power to reject the guidelines that the CBOs propose, whilst also dictating to the CBOs what you want the guidelines to be. Thus allowing you to control and change the rules for us, without issuing a NPRM, while lying and saying that it's the CBOs that are creating the guidelines.
No, all of this is just more of the ever encroaching totalitarian state that our "free" country is moving toward. Fuck you.
Well stated
Danny brought 36 fully charged batteries for his fpv quad of course. How else could he make it through a 3 hour ball game. He may have spent a small fortune on lipo batteries, but he save a few bucks on a ticket for the good seats. Now he gets to watch some of the game between battery swaps in Blair Witch Project quality wobbly cinematography or out of the corner of the camera as he whips by at 100mph so that the 20 degree camera will actually point at the game some of the time.
Sad to see the amount of time and resources go to something that would never stop people with nefarious intent and only increase the amount of money that a hobbyist has to spend besides one's time and privacy. As well as making it hard for people wanting to get into the hobby, it would make it overwhelming.
What a time to be an anti-drone Karen.
Some Law Enforcement I spoke to refuse to ask a operator for ID or take any action when a call comes in. Its because they know it is BS. Wait till the calls start coming in from the Karens. More will feel the same way.
FAA get a grip, drone deliveries and taxi's are pie in the sky. You've thrown a peaceful, respected and non-life threatening hobby under the bus for commercial gain and security paranoia.
What is the actual threat/risk being addressed by Remote ID for UAS? Why not mandatory ADSB in General Aviation first? "Licence plates provide traceability." So at 5:30 they illustrate this with a shot of more than 20 vehicles cruising by on the highway and not a single licence plate is legible. Even if a plate was legible, the information identifying the owner is not available to the public.
At 6:06, "In contrast to the information the general public has access to, the public safety appropriately approved individuals would indeed have access to connect the licence plate on the drone to the drone owner..." And yet every image in the video of the publicly available karen app displays the current lat/long coordinates of the drone's operator! How is this supposed to be anything like a licence plate??
Sheesh. At 14:47, the additional "Correlation Data" identifies the suspect named "Alice Marie Salazar", as a 229lb 6'-2" Male. :)
And why is the satellite image of the St.Lawrence River and Quebec's Gaspé peninsula reversed at 19:43?
"Integrating Drones into the National Air Space"... wtf... RID has NOTHING to do with Deconflicting airspace or increasing situational awareness... RID is gonna be used to assign blame!!
The FAA even stated that it wasn't for deconflicting anything. Apparently they're so inept at keeping track of class G airspace that they had to make us do it for them. Sure would be a shame if we just didn't help.
I plead with the FAA to please, while doing their job of safety, head the needs of those that don't bring large financial contributions to the industry, if for no other reason that this is often where the pioneers of tomorrow are fledged.
I should be able to drive RC cars on the freeway via line of sight, if these intrusive Bluetooth "license plates" are being used, and pushed on existing drones that were specifically exempt, by the pressure the FAA has put on them.
The FAA used to make good decisions, now you might as well be the FCC, KM6IRS signing out.
For public safety and noise abatement please push your Airspace up above and out of the human's living and breathing space. After all It is our right to have living space to work, to serve, teach, be family, and enjoy the timeless pursuit of recreation, even flying our kites and model aircraft as for example in Shielded recreational operations .
How much of our tax dollars over how many decades has the FAA spent on noise abatement only to dream of running a web of multirotor light to heavy lift aircraft streaming and screaming over our heads. Manned and commercial aircraft will always be needed, but will require separation as well as integration. Separation laterally and in altitude so as to improve the quality of life of the peoples this tech is developed to serve. And separation in altitude and route in case of the eventual aircraft failure, pilot error, bird strike, or medical emergency. In order to give the souls on board and the people below the statistically proven best chance of survival, usable altitude and a safe route are keys to safety.
For about 100 years model aviation has been proven to be the safest forms of aviation. And I agree Bad Actors will use drones. They will not display their ID and location. But placing the burden of installing remote devices on their balsa , foam and plastic model planes does not satisfy public safety nor does it improve national security. Primarily and most importantly, modelers use model aviation to teach aeronautics, safety, construction techniques and craftsmanship and as well teach doing no harm and good citizenship.
They mention transporting people in cities with drones that would be the one of the woset uses of drones think of how loud and unlivable a city would become. Also think of small scale November 11ths occuring because these devices just handed out much needed intel to hack them.
EMERGENCY WE NEED A SPLINT STAT!!! HAHAHAHA
As a drone pilot this is complete garbage no bit of this will help anyone except law enforcement. It will enable them to harass hobby pilots. The FAA has definitely lost its primary mission and is effectively trying to kill hobby flight
If safety is such a concern perhaps we should ban sports. We wouldn't want a softball without remote ID flying into the crowd and injuring someone, or someone sliding into home and breaking their arm.
I'm an aircraft electrician in the USAF and I'm just now getting into this hobby, and I am so glad every comment I have read so far is against this new rule. I will definitely be writing to my senator to make a complaint about this because I enjoy making DIY airplanes and I get a maximum 10-20 minute flight time from my builds. Why should I have to broadcast my PII to anyone with a smartphone? This is an invasion of our privacy.
I am a professional pilot. I use a checklist for my operations including preflighting firmware and my RID. I check weather, notams and TFRs. I have a mechanical history for each of my drones. I even have a logbook for specifics of each operation. WHERE I DRAW THE LINE, DO NOT SHOW MY POSITION TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. If I am assaulted or robbed it is because you are being negligent in regard to my safety. The general public does not have a “need to know basis.” How can you justify that?
This travesty of a video is full of misinformation, implausible scenarios and at times outright lies (or with a generous amount of benefit of the doubt, an utter lack of understanding leading to untruths). But unfortunately that’s on top of justifying unnecessary regulation that to begin with, stems from overreach of authority. This Orwellian overstepping is doomed to create more problems than it solves and if implemented as stated, will kill an otherwise harmless hobby that has as of yet, not caused any serious harm.
your license plate analogy doesn't even pass the smell test. my license plate doesn't BROADCAST my position. the NUMBER on my plate is public info (obviously) but the public can't readily use it to locate the owner, nor the owner's information.
I would like to see how many people dislike this video. If you dislike this video give this comment a thumbs up.
18 likes to 260 dislikes. The RUclips API still allows for the number to be extracted.
Update: 293 dislikes. I use the "return youtube dislikes" extension for chrome.
Does the remote ID app communicate drone activity detected by the individuals phones back to the faa?
haha yea good question lol
If you are going to break the law, why not turn RID off? Seems like a easy way around the law.
This is awful. What a dystopian future where the FAA paints recreational pilots in such a bad light. This solves absolutely no real problem and is a huge waste of taxpayer dollars. I can't even imagine what this video alone would have cost. The FAA is seems to be more obsessed with broadcasting your personal information (including that of minors) above regulating the airspace.
That was the intention of this video. The FAA needs a way to enforce the rule because so many said they will not comply. So they are promoting fear that does not exist about FPV pilots in hopes/knowing that fear will create a need for new Karen's to monitor us.
The FAA does not have the man power to patrol us, so they are pushing the public to do the policing. They know how hard it is for FPV pilots to just hover over one area to spy on someone or the public. And yes, they know we don't fly like Danny does in the video. All of this they know and really don't care.
The goal is to eventually eliminate the hobbyist for government and corporate interest and control. Have you ever heard the saying, "We're not after your guns" and their actions are 100 percent 180
Such a joke. The FAA is totally clueless.
Yeah, this makes me feel a lot safer as a pilot. Looks like I'm open carrying my .45 on each hip now as well as my observers. I have no issues with the FAA and authorities knowing where I am. WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH is Karen's knowing where I am. I have had a couple of encounters with Karen's. They like to come and mess with you. So now the observer i have with me is now dealing with both the Karen and their job. More people will be hurt because of this. The blood will be on the FAA hands as pilots and Karen's start to do battle after this goes into effect in September. I'm not afraid of the FAA and I state fact on this. Drone pilots will protect their investments, and this will be bad news for both pilots and Karen's. FAA needs to fix this.
This. I have never even thought about taking my sidearm with me to fly a drone, but I have had encounters with Karens that made me wish I had. Now that the Karens will be able to come harass me even more easily, it seems silly to not carry while out looking at mule deer in the foothills above my city. Thanks FAA for setting the stage for dangerous situations!
I started carrying when I fly after I had an encounter with a enraged home owner who didn't like me flying across the street from his home, over the ocean. He threated to shoot the drone and me. The FAA is setting people up to be hurt or killed, and that's their goal.
BAH! Do you guys have some super fund you are keeping secret to fund all this stuff ? Do you honestly think humanity is currently moving in a direction that is going to lead to a society like this? I mean don't get me wrong, I wish, but yea its not gonna, and breaking a relationship with the people won't help.
How is this getting off the ground 17:00 🤨
Like many of the situations in the video, they're just imagining really, really hard.
Leave it to unelected bureaucrats, creating regulation with no oversight, to destroy a hobby.
This video does not feel its for the safety of drones entering government airspace and flying safe as much as government airspace being lowered to the ground level and regulated. You can not even fly around your own house that's a few acres in the middle of nowhere without breaking the law.
Thank you for once again putting a price on our freedoms and charging us to be happy. And this best part is, this was not even your technology. You saw money, claimed it as your own, and charged all of society to smile.
Why are all the examples about empowering Karen’s?
It's a real shame they didn't put half as much thought and effort into Remote ID as they have into promoting it in marketing videos.
I have no problems with registering a drone, having both the drone and controller broadcasting an ID and even having the location of the drone being broadcast. This is information that is crucial if you want to be able to report a problem to authorities for them to investigate. THAT would be the equivalent of a "drone license plate".
I have a HUGE problem with the home location and current location of the controller being broadcast to the general public. This makes everyone a "drone vigilante" and is HIGHLY inappropriate. That's no longer a "drone license plate", that's a GPS tracking device citizens are being forced to wear when they fly a drone.
wow, I'm glad I don't live in the US, cause that's some really fucked-up not-at-all-thought-through shit right there lmfao
I think, and have always thought since it was announced, that Remote ID is a huge mistake. What a waste of everyone's time and money that literally offers nothing in return.
This is unsettling. It all starts small.
So if they see a 249 gram drone outside a military installation and can't get a remoteId hit do they stay on high alert? The ridiculous nature of these fabricated scenarios is laughable.
This is so wrong! Thanks for killing a safe, fun hobby.
I have a number of concerns I wish to voice.
First would be the form factor and power consumption of these new systems, secondly One may have concerns about the security of hobbyists and risk of malicious Actors taking advantage of live flight data. Thirdly How does this Affect B4YOUFLY?
I’ll try to go into these issues in detail in order,
(Form factor and power consumption)
I build my own models and have substantial knowledge of what goes on under the hood of a standard “line of sight” model airplane and its internals. My first worry here with RID is the part itself may be too expensive and heavy for a standard foam model or cause stress on electronics if they pull too much power.
Ideally RID would be about the size and weight of a servo motor at its largest as some model airframes have extremely limited internal space. An RID system also must pull low power as the higher the power you pull, especially on planes running 2s-3s systems, may overload and brown out. (An unsafe state where internal electronics shutoff and enter an uncontrollable state.)
(Security and and information access)
I also have security concerns about all this information being available from RID on something as public as an app as malicious actors WILL take advantage of this information given the slightest of opportunities. This could result in users being targeted for theft and tracked maliciously using live flight data, especially if given open public access to precise location. This very much could be a security hazard for flyers on the ground and should not be overlooked. Failure to do so could result in Thefts of UAS unchecked. Hobbyists on the ground, especially under a normal flying environment, are just not going to get the safety and security a place like a FBO or airport is going to offer. Using GA as an example.
(B4YOUFLY)
B4YOUFLY Already offers “notify and fly” function which allows users to submit a request to fly based on GPS data when necessary. Wouldn’t this become redundant especially since “line of sight” flyers are already flying in a fixed position. If someone or a government agency can just ask for that request, how is that any different from anything RID can offer. This also would not require modifying pre-existing model aircraft which may not be plausible on some types. How would the roll out of RID affect his pre-existing system and can B4YOUFLY be made to be an alternative to RID in the context of line of sight flying.
They've already proven that they don't care or understand how much financial or mechanical burden it places on the hobbyist. (They ignored the 1000+ comments and their own advisory committee.) All they're interested in is clearing the skies for a bunch of doomed delivery services and making sure they can bother the most lawful among us. Even the cheapest version available is going to cost over $100 per unit, and if it's not strictly recreational, you'll need individual ones regardless of whether it can be easily transferred or not.
@@jaysonrees738 I found one unit that is low power for the low cost of just 50$ while others I have seen are almost the cost of an entire drone(300-1500$). Can't wait to see how this worsens with chip and galium shortages
How is remote I D supposed to indicate the PIC intent? Are we supposed to place a LAANC with a written brief upon every flight? What about unregistered 249 gram recreational pilots living on a military base? Will Jr create a hi-alert for everyone on duty? This is concerning as a PIC and a 107 as I have been stalked, harassed and disrupted during Real estate photo shoots.
WE WONT COMPLY
The licence plate analogy fails, that works with registrationn not RID. If you see my license plate but I'm not in the car you don't know where i am at. With RId you not only know where my drone is but also where i am currently at or where my drone took off from. You showed you are going to keep history of the RID of the pilot. I've already tried out drone scanner and you put Uas pilots in danger from the public who has the app to track down the pilot location to harass drone pilots. Criminals in the area now have a map if they want to steal a drone. Every pilot needs to carry to protect themselves. The FAA did not think this through.
They thought it through. The harassment is the goal.
I have never had a interest in drones or helicopters. I haven’t flown an RC aircraft for several years and everything I’ve ever flown was in the line of sight. The sailplanes that I enjoyed definitely climbed up higher than what will be allowed. Guess my old trophy’s for 3 meter rudder and elevator flight time should be dusted off and prominently displayed. Who knew that I was a legend in my own time? Unfortunately even though I have the potential for duplicating such a feat the freedom to do so is in jeopardy.
This video insulted my intelligence; ridiculous scenarios and so misleading that it was comedy gold. Idiocracy.
This is some of the most disturbing 1984 big brother nonsense I've seen. So many things wrong here. It's nice to know that nobody in the FAA actually watched this video before it was published to youtube. Because if they did they should know some basic "facts" about their own program like having a real ID doesn't "authorize" a drone flight yet that's explicitly what this video says 3 minutes in. That's the first of many such errors. Deconfliction is also something the FAA has repeatedly said isn't the function of real ID but it's in this video repeatedly. FAA also said there is no database tracking but then this video talks about how they will use the database logging to track users. Good grief it's like Lucy with the football and they expect us to fall for their double speak.
Why can't this information be given without the graphics and music, talk of spin 😂 There's some grest comments under this video but I very much doubt any body in authority will bother to read them 😢
oh, some will read it, and laugh minicaly while rubbing their hands together evilly Monty Burns style.
more control..i love how in this free country we are restricted more & more..safety ?? i am safe with out more control..i really enjoy how we preach freedom we attack other countries for freedom we belittle others for freedom..yet we are under investigation more than north korea,,china..our phones are tapped,,messages are stored,,track what internet sites,,recording devices in home,,those same devices also see in homes like tv video game ,,watch our travels on roads,,scanned by passing police cars..this video says it authorized to be anywhere..
The FAA needs to go out and touch grass where the hobbyists are flying. Guaranteed no one at the FAA has been to an fpv racing event.
I don't understand. i live out in the country i bought my house and land and the air that comes with it. and my nearest neighbor is a mile away. Drones are toys meant to have fun with. For 40 years i have flown my toy planes and drones on my property with out anyone batting an eye. Now you tell me i can no longer do that with out jumping through all these hoops. Not going to happen EVER! Stick to what you were created for managing real planes. I don't recognize your authority over my toys and you damn sure don't have any authority on my property or over my immediate air space, say up to 300 ft above my house. That shit belongs to me!
So sad to see VT has any part of this. The state of freedom and rights active in removing those freedoms and rights..
You guys put the F in FAA. No one wants delivery drones or flying cars, they're incredibly impractical and unsustainable in most of the cases you show in this video. You're trying to limit drones but at the same time boost the use of drones tenfold? Clearly the regulators don't have the first clue about current technology and how drones are used recreationally, I bet they think drones are all DJI Phantoms. If you make extremely unreasonable laws, they will be broken by EVERYONE. How would you regulators feel about your fancy cars being taken away due to Emissions and danger of reckless use. Treat preople the way you want to be treated - with dignity and respect. Currently there is none of either and therefore you'll be treated with exactly the same.
Danny doesn't care about base ball. He just wants to rip balls.😁
I wouldn't mind get the fined from you guys. I see a issue I could win this case quick.
Is this an April fools??
at 9:04 - why would the officer not have a first aid kit with a splint. You guys are looking for a soloution to a problem that doesn't exist
Just another proof that the FAA is completely detached from what drones and UAS are and do for the broad population. Such an embarrassing thing for a federal agency that shoul be the sole expert on the topic.
Can't wait to have police drones monitoring kid's softball games! I feel so safe in a nanny state! Please, hover millions of police drones over and into my house to make sure there isn't someone without remote ID spying on me!