Roanoke: The Colonists Who Vanished
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- Опубликовано: 27 дек 2021
- THEY WERE ABDUCTED BY ALIENS AND PROBED.
Not really.
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What Simon wrote: MILK
What Simon meant: Dearest, I've been captured and taken prisoner by the Militia of International Lactose Killers. I know not their motives or what they intend to do with me, but I fear I may not return. In the event of my perishing, please see that Danny and Sam are released from the basement and absolved from all their duties. But do make sure the remaining scripts are finished, as Squarespace needs their ad spots done.
Sum decoding to be done.
I just have this vision of a perplexed woman standing in the wilderness looking at a lone tree that says MILK.
Then she finds another a short distance away, simply reading "BREAD"
a little further along there is another with the word "CHEESE"
and then she realized she was reading a shopping list.
Its about the same tbqh
😂😂😂😂
I swear im gna find a tree deep in a random forest and carve Milk into it, then on anothet tree somewhere else im gna carve Bread, and somewhere else Eggs so on and so forth ending with sugar and coffee
“...? How... how do I milk this tree?”
Starving, out of resources, left a message carved into a tree pointing to the natives, natives show up a generation later with blue eyes.
HOW MYSTERIOUS THIS WILL NEVER BE SOLVED
@Owoade Dolu At last count nearing in on 40.
pretty sure they integrated into the natives. If I remember correctly, not only did they find natives with blue eyes, but these also had stonework houses, leather and could read english books they had.
Legit the most hilarious "mystery" because the only reason it hasn't been "solved" is because of racism lol
@@ShepherdsCreek no not really. The reason it is not solved is, that we have barely any evidence. The little evidence we have points to the most likely outcome being them integrating into the natice tribes of the area, but we will probably never be able to tell for sure.
@@meganoob12 the savages ate them
John White was simply a passenger on the ship that stopped at Roanoke. He basically had a morning to look for the colonists. There was a hurricane brewing up and the ship's captain didn't want to risk missing the tide and getting stuck, unable to ride out the storm at sea. The captain gave White the option of being abandoned at the site or to get back in the ship's boat and head out with the rest of the ship's company. White was never given the chance to go anywhere else to look for his family.
From what I remember reading elsewhere, the ship White wasn't in charge of the ship that sailed back to America. He tried repeatedly to pursuade the captain to sail to Croatoan to check for survivors, but the captain refused for various reasons.
Awww. That explanation is fairly likely even if the guy who mentioned that was a second hand source who never met White. I find Simon's explanation of John White just not really liking his family much a lot funnier.
Close. White was the Captain, but not an experienced sailor like Fernandes, who was the navigator. The crew were loyal to Fernandes. White didnt want to drop them off but he didnt insist because of the tenuous command situation.
Decoding the unknown is basically Simon coming down from his BLAZING and still not really knowing what is going on. It’s great 👍
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Fact Boi needs more cold read channels. They are quickly becoming my favorites, especially with the commentary. :)
Yes and Katy is really growing on me as one of the writers :) it isnt just the power of the three anymore :P
@@Taurwen IKR. There was recently a 1 hour 40 minute Casual Criminalist, and I was like WOO HOO! (knowing the majority would be Simon just riffing like your friend who has to pause the movie and say something every five minutes, yet it's still better than a huuuuuge number of movies out there, LOL!).
Pretty accurate 😂
This one makes me think you need to do one on the Moon Eye People of the Appalachia mountains. The Cherokee had to get rid of them. They were said to have white skin and beards, had white eyes that could see in the dark, built walls for unknown reasons. It's actually quite fascinating. Some think they may have been Vikings; or of course, aliens.
I'm gonna slide in here and say, that based on all current evidence, there is 0 chance of the Moon-Eyed people being Vikings.
Setting aside the lack of evidence between Scandinavia and Appalachia, or even between Vinland and Appalachia, of Viking contact.
Why are Vikings heading so far inland and then up on top of mountains away from their strength and ability to retreat by Longship?
The legends state the MEP have trouble seeing during the day and at certain phases of the moon, neither of which are consistent wirh Vikings.
The MEP are attributed with building the ruins in the area, but Vikings rarely built with stone and had very recognizably European architecture.
We have Native descriptions of Vikings from among the Miqmaw of Maritime Canada, the most notable features were their lactose-tolerance, Armour, and sailed ships. Nothing about their eyes.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I hate to be the buzzkill, but we can pretty safely conclude that they weren't Vikings unless there has been a massive flaw integrated into the myths along the way.
edit - I shouldn't say 0 chance. But a fraction of a percentage that would require someone to disappear unnoticed in the Historical record of the Norse and unseen in the Archaeological record of the Americas.
They arrived in modern Canada, in the gulf of saint Lawrence and Newfoundland, the only confirmed viking site being on the north side of the island. So it would be weird for them to go that far south.
@@kingofhearts3185possibly they had been assimilated into a tribe at some point, while still keeping what technology and traditions they could maintain.
What’s really crazy about that time period and subject matter is that even if a settler found and communicated with a native, consider the possibility that they would try to introduce the settlement to the natives. So if they’re walking with the friendly natives, once they got to the settlement, they’d have to ask the natives to pause while they went and informed the settlers that the natives meant no harm. By the time they came back for the natives, maybe the natives would have felt “why did they do that? We’re they preparing others for battle?” And miscommunication ensued. I think a lot of these early settlement days were characterized by bad communication and miscommunication.
I love how the flubs or bloopers just get left in for us. Thank you, Jen!
0:48 "...the actual content that you're here for."
I am absolutely here for tangents from you, Fact Boi, they make up a part of the whole experience 😌
I always thought this was the lamest "mystery". They obviously either went to live with the indians, or the indians killed a bunch and took a few for wives, whatever. They were starving with no ability to fend, they had zero idea if anyone was ever coming back, and the fact the relief ships were delayed probably confirmed that to them. Ships were lost at sea all the time and there was no way to communicate back then. Once the relief ship did not show, for all they know they could have been stuck there forever, with NO ONE in England knowing where they were.
So the relief ship shows way, way late and it is abandoned and instead of these common sense deductions, they were all "hmm, what a mystery!". Um, it isn't much of one and never was.
correct. And given that the natives were cannibals (that's known) they'd probably eat at least part of the bodies of the people they killed.
Many tribes viewed that (and in places like Papua and the Amazon still do) as a way to gain the strength and skill of the adversary you bested, thus becoming stronger yourself.
And if it were a bad harvest year, well, any source of protein is a good one.
Native Americans. They were native to American not India. I'd say it's a minor difference but India and America are quite different places with hugely different cultures.
@@jwenting The natives of Roanoke area practicing cannibalism? Going to need a citation on that one.
@@jwenting cannibalism? Dude even in the Bahamas aside from colombus claiming the canib were cannibals there no evidence and we know colombus could not be trusted since he claimed these canibs live in Japan
Very true there no mystery it was aliens 👽 lol
Albinos don't generally have grey eyes. And the distance between the Hopi/Zuni people whonhave those high rates of albinism and Roanoke is about the same as between Lisbon and Kiev, with similar levels of contact, genetic intermingling, and communication between them as would have been between the Celts around the Lisbon area and the Sarmatans of the Kiev region, prior to the founding of Greco-Roman trading colonies and routes.
Too many people think of Native Americans as one hongenous group, when they are *at least* as culturally separated as rhe range from Ireland to Gibraltar to the western Asian steppes (and even less cross cultural trade, as Eurasia is laid out in a mostly East-West line, so latitudinal climate bands extend great distances with compatible plants and animals, while the Americas have major choke points - like the Mississippi River and two significant N-S mountain chains that channel large scale low tech travel in a more North-South orientation within similar longitudinal bands, meaning rapidly exiting climatic bands where plants and animals aren't as viable across those ecological cline barriers).
The thought that went through my mind is would someone who has seen neither, be able to tell the difference between an albino and a white person given in those days IE Elizabeth 1st reign, having a tan was a sign of being lower class?
@@gordonlawrence1448 Good question. It depends on how much attention they paid to facial features rather than skin color. It also depends on the features of the Native American group. IDK what the local people would look like in the 16th century, but 19th-century photos of Native Americans often show features that could be mistaken for white, especially if you were motivated to see them as white.
Well put.
To geodykt….I’m just waiting to see my old friend, Chief Wanna Tokeaa.
You explain well Jared Diamond's hypothesis on the role of geography in societal evolution!
The first example of the dad "just going to the store for milk and smokes" and not coming back from a few years lol
History Channel: It's Aliens 👽
I wanna thank you Mr. whistler, I lost a lot in life and watching all your videos helps me feel like someone is there
I love comparing Simon's (well Katy, and Jen's additions to it too) version of this... to the Ryan and Shane talking of it...... super fun.
100%!!
Kinda sad they didn't mention the zombie outbreak theorie. Would have loved to see Simon rant about that XD.
I feel like every week I find a new acct featuring Simon, it’s like trying to catch all the Pokémon
As a lifelong North Carolinian I always get incredibly excited when I see the Lost Colony as a topic of interest. I mean, yeah, it is generally accepted among locals and the archaeological community that assimilation was the most likely outcome for these colonists. It is no more a mystery than most other things in history, just more wildly fantasized. But, yeah, still makes me smile when they get discussed. The insane theories that have sprung up over the years are becoming more and more a part of the history itself and I do kinda like to study them even if it does seem to be just for the lols some days.
And OMG, thank you for not saying "the first baby born in North America" like we were taught in schools. I mean, I know you wouldn't have, especially with such an amazing script writer, but dang the 90s were so freaking un-PC that I still cringe on that one.
You were taught that? Holy shit, and I am also am a 90s kid. They absolutely taught the Bering Land Bridge and how people migrated.
About the "first child born in America", context is important. Clearly they meant the first non-native child.
"but dang the 90s were so freaking un-PC that I still cringe on that one."
I cringe from hearing Simon's anti-colonialism jokes and watching him squirm as he tries to avoid being seen as un-PC.
@@0816M3RC That makes two of us then. I got 2minutes in before I got sick of his wokery.
Growing up in Central Virginia, and attending elementary school in the late 50's, early 60's we were taught that Virginia Dare was the first ENGLISH child born in the America's. I also remember that picture Simon had of the word "Croatan", being in my 4th grade Virginia history book. Yes, we studied history in the 4th grade.
There are several forms of albinism, it's not always the full package, it can manifest sometimes in a single trait and it's not necessarily obvious.
Yep. The author Sarah Monette knew she had some albinistic traits-poor eyesight, being much lighter than her brunette family-but because she’s blond and blue-eyed, she thought she had a form of partial albinism. It took her a while to realize that no, she was full albino. She happens to have a type that reduces pigmentation instead of completely removing it.
Having met her in person, I can verify that she doesn’t look like anyone’s mental image of a person with albinism. She looks like an ordinary white woman with fair coloring.
@@mrjones2721 and I knew a girl with ocular albinism, she was expected to be fully blind by 30 even with all the care available. It's a shame that there is so little information in healthcare, I hope that you'll pardon my rant but once a patient of mine who was diagnosed with psoriasis for 8 years wasn't informed about eyesight and hearing loss being a possible consequence and psoriatic arthritis, she suffered from all three, these being preventable with treatment that she didn't have because nobody told her.
Yup. I've got one of the milder variants and I mostly just look more northern European with my blond hair and blue eyes while my family tends a smidge darker, with brown hair and brown eyes.
I think the simplest answer is usually the correct one....I think a hurricane got the majority of them. My great gran could go outside, look at the clouds and how the animals and birds were reacting, and knew that we were going to get a “September Gale” from the Gulf (hurricane force winds, isolated tornado, tons of rain) and we’d be getting the animals into the barns, shutters over the windows, and all of the animal feed up off the ground in case water came up. The English didn’t have that experience, because tropical storms and hurricanes didn’t used to hit England 3-4 times a year like it did in southern Alabama back in my great-gran’s day. If they had seen the “rooster tail” clouds, they wouldn’t have known it meant they had a hurricane on their doorstep, wouldn’t have been trying to waterproof everything they could. The indigenous peoples, who grew up with coastal storms, were probably going inland as fast as they could go. The English probably sat there, thinking “wow, this is some kinda rain,” right up to the point that the roof blew off, the palisade walls became missiles, and they were exposed to 200 mph winds with no shelter. Whatever supplies they had would have been a soggy mess, their weapons wouldn’t fire, and starvation, injury and illness would have taken most of them out of the gene pool. People want to think they died from warfare with the native peoples, or maybe even the Spanish. The biggest killer has always been Mother Nature, and she does not like us....not at all.
I don't blame her one bit...We're a buncha jerks! \m/
Very likely scenario, especially at least once in three years.
So when and why did they carve Croatoan into the tree?
There could have been a few survivors, one of which carved Croatoan on the tree. I don’t think a storm would have killed them all, and survivors would have ended up with the local tribes (willingly or unwillingly).
Mother Nature likes us just fine.
She just tests us, every so often, to see if we are up to the challenge.
Some of us are not.
Simon! No! How could you do a video about the titanic and not talk about the biggest conspiracy theory surrounding it!
It is probably just another coincidence, but it is my husband and my favorite pet conspiracy theory (partially because it is so strange and affects nothing today).
But the theory is that the Titanic was sunk on purpose. There were 3 ships, of the same design, being built by the white star line. The Olympic, the Titanic, and the Britannic. The Olympic was finished 1st and got in an accident that damaged the boat and she wouldn't be usable without expensive repairs. The insurance company wouldn't pay out because of the gross negligence of the captain. The white star line (owned by JP Morgan) was apparently struggling due to other shipwrecks and NEEDED that insurance pay out to fix the Olympic and to continue building the Titanic, and finish the Britannic. So they made a plan. They patched up the Olympic and sent her on the maiden voyage as the "titanic" with the purpose of sinking. Then finished the actual Titanic and called it the Britannic, only having to build 2 of the 3 ships they planned, and getting the insurance money, finally, from the sinking of the titanic that they had needed from the damage of the Olympic. Why, otherwise, have the same captain sail your ship as the one who previously wrecked one before he even got it out of the harbor?
So the damaged Olympic became the Titanic. Just patched enough to make it to where she would sink. The nearly finished real Titanic was just named the Britannic instead, and the 3rd ship never had to be built.
There are some iceberg sized holes in this theory alone, but the fact that JP Morgan cancelled his trip on the titanic at the last moment, and some of his competitors who were on the ship, (and some friends like the Vanderbilts who were not) are enough to keep the conspiracy fires burning.
There are plenty of other rabbit holes to go down with this one, like why he might have planned the sinking, and so on. Most of those that I have found don't add up and involve way too many people. And then there are supposed statements made by people working on the construction of the Titanic saying they thought it appeared the bow had been previously damaged. There might be enough there for you to dig into, in a whole video at some point.
Pretty sure it is 99% BS, but it is still my "favorite" conspiracy, and is a pretty fun/ interesting one to toy around with! (anyone who knows more about this, feel free to correct me. I am sure I am missing some details).
I had to teach this story as part of an English language course in Cambodia. There was universal support among numerous classes for the assimilation theory. Smart cookies those Khmer kids.
Some years ago I was able to go to Roanoke for vacation. It was always a childhood dream of mine. It was so sad, being there reading the monument for Virginia Dare, looking across the water at the same views they saw.
Did you get creepy vibes?
@@erikadlloyd5586 No. It was quite peaceful actually. And very lovely.
I'm afraid we'll never know for sure, but the assimilation theory seems the most reasonable. Survival on the Outer Banks isn't easy without resources. I'm a descendant of John White. I also have ancestors among the Powhattan, Cherokee, and Tomohittan. What's interesting is that early contact with the Tomahittan in what is known as the Tennessee Valley today demonstrated that these people made their living by attacking and pillaging villages east of the Mississippi River from present-day Florida to Ohio. This was in the 17th century before settlers had officially moved inland. Nevertheless, the fellow who had accompanied the Tomahittan encountered English, Spanish, and Portuguese settlers as well as Africans who had escaped from the slave trade to present-day Brazil. Some of these had villages of their own and some had assimilated. The native tribes were well aware of these people.
By the way, I have no trouble with shelters and cabins disappearing from the Outer Banks. Hurricanes are a thing that the English settlers would never have seen before. I'm going to guess that a hurricane came through and destroyed their little settlement. I imagine the natives came by afterward and offered them a way to survive by getting off the outer banks and inland to a better area.
Interesting and well said
Holy hell, how is it that I've never heard the possibility of a hurricane in this scenario? It's such an obvious hypothesis for what happened to the buildings now that you point it out.
I’m also descended from John White, but I’d forgotten what an ass he was.
@@danwebber9494 We all have regrettable ancestors. Most of us aren't much better.
It's more likely they died off or once they were in a weakened state the natives raided them, as was quite common for them to do in those days ( especially since European goods were insanely valuable to them), took anything and everything of value and captured/enslaved anyone who was left alive. Most likely the women as was common, and the rest is history.
The alien abduction theory isn't even the most absurd. There's a theory that the colony was wiped out because of a zombie plaque.
"Sounds like you didn't like your family too much." best line ever Simon.
I grew up in North Carolina and I’ve always found the story of the Roanoke Colony interesting.
As a person with albinism, I can offer a little perspective. Generally, people who are at least a little educated recognize my condition. They see my white eyelashes and eyebrows and pale whitish-yellow hair (it was very white when I was a child) and my alabaster skin and my pale blue eyes that do not look right. But the condition is rare and hair bleach is a thing, so some people are unsure. Albinism is a recessive generic condition so I doubt it was prevalent in the colonial era native American population. A half-white second generation native American probably wouldn't look anything like me, and since you can't have an albino child without the parents with the recessive gene, it's really unlikely there were albino native Americans. I'm giving this theory a thumbs down. 👇 it's dumb.
I remember learning about this in Social Studies, 5th grade I think in the mid eighties. It was the coolest, freakiest lesson I had ever had and I still love the subject today.
Same here! (Same time, too.) They never had enough about it in the history books, and it was soooo frustrating.
It was common practice amongst native American tribes to replace their warrior losses with adolescent boys from the enemy tribe they attributed the losses to. They had a system whereby they looked for boys or girls who were old enough to survive a forced March but young enough to forget their true culture over time. Any young man old enough to remember his roots and likely to keep escaping or seek vengeance was summarily dispatched. Women were prized captives as they unlike European men who were skilled in little more than farming and killing had skills like dress making and sewing...cooking and the cleaning and drying of venison. Let's face it a woman colonist was worth three men to the natives. European women could make socks and knit blankets. They could make food palatable and had some knowledge of herb gardening. A new warrior is a welcome addition. A European woman was worth her weight in wampum.
If you have any interest in this story, go and see The Lost Colony Outdoor Drama on the Outer Banks!
It's one of the oldest Outdoor Dramas in the USA, performed under the stars every year since the 1930's (except for 2 years during WW II) on the land where it actually happened. Definitely worth a visit. The second act portrays one theory of what happened to the colonists, and I guarantee you'll leave with chills or tears in your eyes from the music and the story.
As a four-time Alumni, I can say that it's more than just a show to the performers. You feel the weight of history when you're there.
How does this man sleep? Genuinely his like 12th channel.
13, now that he has the Warographics channel
New Channel and I'm only ab hour late? Lovely. Simon, keep.being an entertaining maestro.
I read that John White wanted to check his family on the island, but the ship's captain, who had all the authority on the ship, refused to go because the ship's anchor had been damaged by the bad weather.
This. Not having a properly working vessel is a very big deal when you're in what's known as the Graveyard of the Atlantic. They had already lost seven men just in trying to land on Roanoke Island, the captain simply couldn't take the chance of losing more men or equipment and becoming stranded.
I've read the same. It annoys me greatly that people judge people from the past from the vantage point of the conveniences, knowledge and laws/rights we have today. Travel was deadly back then for so many reasons but people often act like he could've just hopped in an uber to the next island.
Had a dream i met simon. I said i loved his videos and watched them everyday. He absolutely did not give a fuck. 10/10 getting roasted by Simon in my sleep.
As an NC "born & bred" citizen, I feel I should weigh in with my .02¢ worth. Assimilation is the most logical explanation (if we're SURE it wasn't aliens). The NC Outer Banks aren't conducive to a permanent settlement. Totally exposed to the elements, very little arable land, & often no fresh water, the Native Americans would establish temporary camps on them to harvest ocean resources & then move on. The Roanoke settlers would soon have found themselves in the same predicament as the later Plymouth, MA Pilgrims - unable to support themselves & dependant on the good will of the Native Croatoans. The settlers doubtlessly appealed to the Croatoans on their island, & simply went with them when they moved back to the mainland. They were obviously long gone & far away by the time the relief ship arrived. Sensible, logical, practical - NO aliens or other mysterious conspiracies. OK, that's my .02¢, for what it's worth!
The banks are mostly shifting sand, aren’t they? Good spot for a summer fishing camp but not all that much else.
@@joshuahadams You're exactly right. Great places to visit, but you wouldn't want to live there! There ARE homes & businesses there now, but the sand spits are being eroded more & more, as sea levels rise & storms get stronger. After all, we had to move the Cape Hatteras Lighthouse inland, or lose it to the Atlantic. The Banks will be mostly gone in 100 yrs. or less, I fear. Thanks for your comment.
Life long Carolina native here.. Yes its great to visit but not all year long .. Could you imagine how trauma inducing it would be when a hurricane or a tornado would come ashore to Someone whom have never experienced one before and if you lost your love ones and your home.. And the long periods of starving.. I feel for those poor souls from so long ago.. We are lucky, As Simon says The past was the Worst... I hope everyone has a wonderful New Year!!
Sick in bed and was looking for something to listen to!! Loving this new show Simon! Hoping for a BB episode later!
Maybe you'll like his new channel, Warographics. I hope you feel better soon.
@@sandybarnes887 thanks been trying to find more of his channels❤
@@Knifeman1478 you are very welcome. Look in the video description, most of them are listed there
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I look forward to the future Simon show behind the film were he goes over the crazy plots of TV and films
The alien abduction theory might be absurd, but it would sure be a great episode of Star Trek.
Albinism presents itself on a spectrum. Essentially it's just a lack of pigmentation in the skin so full albinism is white/pale skin and. Red eyes as the iris and other eye parts lack pigmentation depending on species. But there are also partial albinism such as commonly seen in gerbils and other rodents where the animal will have coloured fur such as a light brown or grey and present red eyes. Also common in reptile colour morphs partial albinism will lighten colours and results in a grey eye usually referred to a a lesser morph depending on species and genetic factors. where fill albino tends towards yellow and white with red eyes.
In humans lesser did of albinism tends towards pale skin tones and blue/grey eyes as a lack of melanin in brown eyes can appear blue similar to how some people born with brown eyes actually appear blue after birth.
Seems like new colonies in general had a terrible time. Jamestown had signs of cannibalism found.
A colony on Cape Cod was positioned right where the sea and the fresh water met, and instead of circulating, the same dirty water washed back and forth past the colony. It was a recipe for disease. After the first deadly wave of disease, the colonists begged to be allowed to move to another location. The company said no-that was their assigned spot. The next wave of disease decimated the colony.
Corporations: Bastards since the beginning of time.
AND London has records of people carving chunks off the corpses of executed inmates to take home and consume... in the 1800's... You didn't have to be a colonist to sign up for some pretty grisly details... including cannibalism... ;o)
I just found this channel today and I gotta say, I love you Simon. I love that you are not drawn in by the ridiculous idea of aliens and other weirdo stuff. You are fun to listen to and you keep it real!
Be awesome to be able to go back in time in any place you want!
solve a lot of mysteries like a stalker
You are great Simon! Funny and sweet!
Mitosis has occurred. Yet another Simon channel. Subscribed, of course.
Love how he just does all the same stuff just on different channels. Absolutely brilliant really.
There was a book by a Lee Miller a couple of years ago, which mentions just about all of these points (although I don't recall the plague theory). Highly recommended. Miller mentions a war between the Powhatans and another tribe that probably played a part as well.
I made it 30 seconds before I HAD to like the video just for the sake of Jenn’s wonderful editing skills. Also; Katy keep at it, been binge watching while at work for days! Simon, thanks for being the entertaining front-man for the band!
Just when I think I’ve already subscribed to all of Simon’s channels, here’s another one 😂
Don't forget Warographics
Funny thing is... Hatteras aka Croatoan island is extremely close to Roanoke island. It's confusing why White couldn't make it just a few miles south to try and find his daughter.
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From what I've learned on The Casual Criminalist; I'd say we've got a serial killer on our hands here...ALLEGEDLY. \m/
Very nice simon!
To those that ever visit Roanoke they have a small amphitheatre on the island and perform a play depicting the events of the colony each summer. Definitely worth checking out it's well done and very charming!
Yeah, 3 years is a long time to be left without resourses. The fact no one followed up with the Crotoans is just crazy to me.
Whyyyy is 5:15 literally the FUNNIEST thing I’ve seen all day … maybe even all week. Embarrassed to admit how many times I rewinded it … ‘“I don’t think I would just write milk”😆🥛I watch all 737 of Simon’s channels so I am very familiar with the stream of consciousness, thinking out loud, working out problems on the spot freedom in these versus like biographics or TIFO but either way, I am crying laughing and don’t know why but thank you for that.
Wheeee!! Liked the stars at the end of the video. If they were intended as a Christmas indication then Merry Xmas to you as well
when the aliens finally return the lost colonist, it’s over for you, factboi
I've only seen the first season of Blacklist, but love it so far. Need to get to the library to borrow more.
Roanoke is one of those mysteries caused by people of the time not following through on investigating a situation. Like, how hard would it be to check with the local tribes? Also I heard a story a long time ago (I think on a VHS documentary) that there was a Native American tribe in the northeast that when English settlers 1st arrived were already speaking/knew Welsh. I think the theory was a Welsh colony attempt about a century before England started coming over? Anyone else hear this one or am I crazy?
I've heard the Welsh connections as well. Also there were English & French speaking Indians throughout present day New England, Nova Scotia and Great Lakes region (Samoset was incredible but not unique) well before Roanoke and Plymouth, etc..
I saw a documentary about tribe of white Native Americans look just like Europeans down there in the Virginia or Roanoke area missing colony tribe of white Native Americans one plus one equals two
I have read and watched a couple of shows on it. I don't know but I guess it is remotely possible. I do know in 1492 North America was a poorly kept secret among many European sailors
I’ve heard something similar. I heard it speculated that these were descendants of earlier Welsh monks who had made it across much earlier...
@@johnosullivan1480 I heard a Powhatten elders say that their tradition is a local Nation captured them and took them to around Bug Island and had the men work the copper mines breaking ore out and they married many off the surviving women
I don't know what it is about this mystery, but I've been fascinated by it since I saw the "In Search Of" episode about it in the 70s.
And you're correct. Albinos have pinks eyes, not gray.
Love History & listening to Simon.
Tyvmuch👤 💓cheers!💓
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Couldn't descendants of that tribe just be DNA tested to see if they have markers from those colonists?
We love ya Simon
Sailing have it's quirks: because of the ways the currents work in open ocean (both wind and sea currents) it is sometimes easier to go back to Europe then trying to move in America. During colonial times in brasil, there were some trade routes from the center south region to the northeast that it was easier and faster going first to Africa then back to America then trying to go northeast (in the southern hemisphere the currents spin counter clockwise). If the Croatian island was south of where they were, bad weather could push you far on your way to northwest (the northern currents run clockwise)
You're pretty hard on John White. Remember, he was beholden to like 60 other people any time he wanted to do something with a ship. War on? Sorry, John. Weather's bad? Have to wait. Time for everyone else to go back to England? So sorry, Mr. White.
Way to go Simon... You found the topic that makes my skin crawl and hair stand on end with just a word... gg
Once the English came up with the brilliant invention of "timely sending of resupply ships" the success of their colonies in the Americas was all but assured.
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Simon hates his family. So he comes up with another channel so he can spend more time in the studio 🤣
I believe those tribes that Simon said have a higher rate of albinism, are grasslands tribes, which would require a significant travel to the interior of the country.
Good video 👍
I do enjoy the professional level of sass he adds to all of his channels
I'm waiting for the day when it's just his beard reading to us.
Lemmino has a great video that goes in depth into Roanoke
They where 'decolonized' 👀.
dam it fact boi, every 2 weeks I get a new channel out of you. my algorithm is all Simon all the time
I'm eating my Christmas chocolates and chilling while I watch this episode 🌸💗🌸
I think that last theory you mentioned probably hit the nail on the head.
The actual content I am here for , are the many tangents, on which, Simon goes off.
Keep in mind nobody had much experience colonizing in this era, especially across an ocean! Also, John White did not own the ship on which he returned. He was not in command by any stretch of the imagination.
Albinism exists in degrees, and can be limited to eyes without much affecting the skin. More, light and dark skin are both traits found pretty much everywhere in every ethnic group on Earth.
Popular depictions of those with albinism are usually VERY inaccurate.
If you peacefully integrate with the Croatoa tribe by showing up and begging for food, you're going to be integrated under very unfavorable terms, and so most of the colonists would have died childless, being made to work for their food growing the Three Sisters. In the 19th century, novelists created this cliche of how any European who winds up among Native Americans would immediately achieve high stature among the. But in reality, by the 1590s', word of mouth among the Natives would have spread about the repeated cases of pestilence coming along with any Europeans, and so apart from suspicion, Europeans showing up would be regarded with active disgust. The only thing that would win the colonists any stature among the Natives would be if one of them was a competent blacksmith (in many Native languages, the term for Europeans was "metal people"). If the Roanoake colony's blacksmith died, the remaining Europeans would have nothing to offer but hard labor.
They'd have been made serfs.
Simon is slowly taking over RUclips.
There is no topic he can't cover and his cold reads are top-shelf.
His basement has to be full of writers and editors by now. (Allegedly)
wow new channel??!!! i'm excited
For the ppl leaving on the ship and coming back years later, it's the equivalent of seeing your nephew at 9rs and then 12yrs, huge difference but you left with that image so that's what u expect. For the ppl staying behind, those years would be like watching grass not grow and then die. They probs moved on after 6 months
ANOTHER CHANNEL?
Sweet. Subbed!
Ben Franklin wrote in the pre revolution times that there was a growing concern amongst the colonists about their indentured servants running away and joining the natives.
How many channels does fact boy have I just found out about busi- brain blaze. This is really dope keep giving us those facts Simon
Jen! the kitty at the cash register. sold!! hahahaha
Um.. This should be looked at as a Murder Mystery. No Man is going to dump his Wife Daughter and Granddaughter in a wilderness and leave for Three years!!
Why I get the notifications hours or days late for your posts I do not know.
That's it! Simon has convinced me. Next time I need to go to the store, I'm going to carve 'store' into the tree 😆
Maybe John White ditched his family before reaching Roanoke and there never was a colony.
Very interesting.
Omg I just imagined movie directed by Quentin Tarantino about the lost colony and it would be gory and hilarious, the possibilities...
I turn around FOR TWO SECONDS and Simon has two new channels.
Yet another new channel. Simon my friend you have really gotta use that News Letter you pay for XD
Brings a different meaning of, "I'm just going put to get batteries."