Amelia Earhart: What Happened to the World Famous Aviatrix?
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
- Was it her drunk navigator? Storms? ALIENS????? (It wasn't aliens).
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How would flying the equator be more difficult? You can just follow the dotted line the entire way.
Why even use a drunk navigator when there is the Google Earth app?
She could have just called an Uber to pick her up in the middle of the ocean and been fine, smh
I don't know why she didn't take a better airline
😆😆😆 all these comments are top notch
Reading 1st sentence: Oh man this idiot…
Finished reading: 😅 Got me.
I agree, "aviatrix" is a cooler word, along with other amazing words like "executrix", "administratrix", and, of course, "dominatrix".
Hahaha! That was a good one! I can’t believe you went there!
Don’t forget Gladiatrix
@@windebiesteultima3317 Yes, thank you, I forgot that was a thing!
@@windebiesteultima3317 “gladiatrix” is badass as fuck
Exactly
My grandmother grew up in Atchison Kansas and went to school with Amelia Earhart. She was one of her best friends. They lived down the street from each other. My grandmother would talk about Amelia at length and always said that she would never just disappear to get privacy or as part of a hoax or anything like that.
Simon: “I always read ahead a few words.”
Also Simon: Pauses reading… seemingly recalls facts from another video…immediately reads that information in the next sentence.
Yes, Fact Boi, your powers of recollection are astonishing! 🤣
It always makes me laugh when he does this!!
@@terryenby2304I like to call Simon Tangent Boi.
I started flying and navigating pre GPS, and finding that small of an island 6 miles off on the chart, without a radio locator on the island is just suicide. It would be hard to hit in a sailboat with a couple days to zigzag around. Without good sunshots, and flying in overcast weather, your visibility is usually 5 to 7 miles. They were doomed at takeoff.
The US navy corrected the error in 1936.
Lae and Howland Island are 7.55 degree latitude apart. 7.55x68.7=518.6 miles and 7.55x69.4=523.97 miles for a difference of 6 miles, Clarence Williams mapped the area and gave them the directions from Lae to Howland and from Howland to Honolulu and for Honolulu to Oakland California. Honolulu to Oakland California is in the Purdue archives.
Howland is quite literally the middle of nowhere, I can see them missing it.
@@twright4263 ...and so?
@@m2heavyindustries378 so the fact is the location shouldn't be a factor because it was corrected before the flight.
If you made up a character in a novel who was a legendary aviator and whose name was pronounced _air heart_ you’d be told that’s way too implausible to be accepted by readers.
That is a textbook example of the expression "You can't make this s(naughty word)t up."
Real life is often weirder than fiction.
@@Zyo117 I guess a person named Bernie Madoff who made off with lots of other people's money also is an example of this.
@@brianarbenz1329Is Madoff still alive?
Everyone knows that Amelia Earhart was abducted by aliens and put into stasis in the Delta Quadrant, until Captain Janeway and crew revived her.
Well done, well done.
Simon has stated that he’s a Star Trek fan, so HOW is this NOT IN THE VIDEO?!
Correct
Legend. 😻
STV
In 1940, a British expedition crew located a skeleton, a man's shoe, a woman's shoe, a box for a naval sextant, and a box for a liqueur of which Earhart was a fan on Nikumaroro Island, some 400 miles south of Howland Island and along the approximate heading Earhart was on when she vanished. The skeleton was measured in depth by the expedition crew, but at some point, the bones were lost. In 2018, the crew's measurements were studied by Dr Richard Jantz, a forensic scientist. Utilizing modern forensic technology, he determined that not only was the skeleton female, but based on tailor's measurements and images of Earhart, the bones matched Earhart better than they matched 99% of people living at the time. This directly refuted Hoodless's 1940 expedition notes which assessed that the skeleton most likely belonged to a male and therefore could not be Earhart's. This would also indicate that Earhart landed on the wrong island or survived a crash and was able to make it to Nikumaroro after the crash. The fate of the skeleton is unknown, however, in 2019, a skeleton was found in a museum on Tarawa which matched the characteristics of the skeleton found by Hoodless. It seems at some point, DNA testing was done on the skeleton to attempt to confirm if the skeleton belonged to Earhart, but I have yet to find any details on the result of that testing.
I honestly believe that I could watch every episode of every channel Simon has and it would last several years...and I would be okay with that!
nah, maybe a few months at 16 hours a day.
Makes you wonder when he'll outsource the host.
I nominate Jen.
I've gone through probably 85-90% and at the pace I'm watching them I'll run out soon and I'm starting to panic. Good thing he has like 50 channels (and growing) and posts like 5 videos a day, might just level things out.
I started probably a year ago and listen almost all day at work. I feel like I have hardly put a dent in all of his content.
Tbh im struggling to keep up with all of Simon's channels at this point
Theres like 12 of them 🤣
This has quickly become my favorite of Simon's channels. Katy is a great writer and it has a good balance of Brain Blaze's comedic ad-libbing and the Straight Forwardness of TIFOA and TopTenz.
The very best part of the -trix suffix is the pluralization of the form. Aviatrix becomes Aviatrices. Administratrix becomes Administratrices.
And of course Dominatrix becomes Dominatrices.
I mean, that's just a whole lot of fun.
Fred Noonan was THE navigator for Pacific flights. At Pan-Am, he created all the air charts for the Clippers.
My main problem with the captured by the Japanese theory is the Imperial Army holding them prisoner.
Aside from what was pointed out, I see it far more likely in that theory that she would have been conscripted as a “comfort woman” and Fred just shot. The Imperial Army is fairly notorious for war atrocities although that could’ve come later on in Pacific theater.
The atrocities started as soon as Japan invaded mainland China, if not earlier.
Yeah up to WW2 that Japanese had a pretty "anything goes" attitude to war. As long as you were doing it to the enemy, they didn't seem to have any ethics about what troops could or couldn't do. Basically it was just the worst of humanity allowed to do whatever they want to vulnerable people. Definitely not a time you'd want to be captured by them...
@@pauld.b7129 Especially if Japan thought you were a spy.
Simon missed off the Alien conspiracy where they are taken up by Aliens and whisked off the Delta Quadrant and kept in suspended animation until the 23rd Century!
Though he likely hasn't got back round to that episode just yet:)
I was thinking about that Voyager episode. The video editor even slipped in a scene from that episode at 30 second mark. 2 star trek references in one video.
Amelia Earhart is the borg queen confirmed
@@OrganicAlchemyThere's no need to insult Amelia Ernhart by comparing her to the Borg Queen.
I would love to watch an episode about names and how they affect fortunes, jobs etc. (By social class and also that weird phenomenon where people gravitate towards jobs that match their names, etc.) would be really interesting here!
That's a good one hope they do it.
We still have charts that are off by 1-2 km due to their remoteness and a lack of resources to correct them. Back then measurements were done with range and bearing which can be pretty easy to mess up, especially if you don't have any landmarks to take fixes on. I am really not surprised to hear the island may have been off by 6 miles (nautical miles?).
The US navy corrected the error in 1936.
HowlandandLae are 7.55 degree latitude apart. 7.55x68.7=518.6 and 7.55x69.4=523.67 for a difference of 6 miles. Clarence Williams mapped the area out and supplied Noonan with the map strips. One is in the Purdue archives.
@@twright4263 Cool, interesting to hear, thanks for sharing :)
Noaa charts here in the Pacific are very very good today. In the 20s and 30s all the islands positions were accurate. Its thus pilot error, engine failure and navigation error aggravated by female hystrionics. Hystrionics are the biggest killer in the AF today.
@@adambartlett114 Agree. Cloudcover is low in the Pacific. It limits distance viewing and you could fly by an island without seeing it at 10 miles distance even during daylight.
That Malaysian Airlines point actually really helps put it in perspective.
It's been 10 years since that happened. Didn't the authorities find pieces of the airplane when they washed up on the beaches of Réunion Island, which is off the coast of Africa in the Indian Ocean?
I read elsewhere that the bones on the island were improperly tested and they possibly/probably were hers and eaten by coconut crabs. The horrific death is the reason they don't want to admit it.
Aviatrix sounds like a dominatrix who flies.
I want one.
I only support this if she actually uses a club instead of you joining it...unless it is that kinda stuff and that is up to the clients.
For those who don't think the mile high club was kinky enough.
Her aircraft had black and gold stripes as it had been bought for her flight by Purdue University where Earhart was on staff as a student advisor.
Some points in favor of Nikumaroro is if they were running low on fuel and spotted any sort of land they would have opted to risk a landing there. Lockheed Electras are about as aerodynamic as a brick, and won't stay in the air as soon as the engines are not pushing air over the wings. The radio transmissions would have coincided with low tide, and there are artifacts of approximately the right era found. The coconut crabs native to the area would have made short work of the unfortunate survivors, thus the lack of human remains.
The radio transmissions are one of the intriguing things about the Gardner Island Theory. Some of them were deemed to be hoaxes, but not all. It's what keeps me skeptical about Crash and Sink and Saipan. She would not have been able to radio from either of those locations...
I just noticed the music pauses whenever Simon goes off-script. That’s a pretty good way to distinguish it and it was probably helping me subconsciously in these episodes without my noticing.
You should look into Bessie Coleman. One of the most improbable and tragic stories stories I've ever heard.
This is a good mix of Simon... Not his stoic Top Tens personality or his "tea" induced manic business blaze character.. Just feels more organic.
With such a great category to catch people's attention. I hope it goes well and would love to see more
As stated, the ocean is very large and the plane was only a two-seater.
Oh, so this channel is basically the Casual Conspiracy Theorist. Love it! It only took me like two months to figure out.
Instead of mocking killers and the police, Simon mocks conspiracy theorist. It's great!
hahaha!
@@betterknownasjen wait… are you The Jen?? 🤩
@@terryenby2304 The one and only 🤭🌻.
@@betterknownasjen wow!! I notice you work on a lot of Simon’s stuff, and it’s always excellent! Thank you!!
This one always sounded so silly to me. The plane absolutely crashed into the ocean and that's the end of it. I get the love of a good mystery but this isn't it.
I think a part of the issue is that as we get further and further from the period when it happened people become more and more disconnected from the times when there werent maps of literally the entire surface of the planet and think "how could someone just vanish." When in reality that type of thing used to be much more common.
@@trustmeImadoc91 Same reason some conspiracy theorists of today can't believe that there aren't better recordings of the plane crashes of the WTC and the Pentagon on 9/11. They just can't seem to fathom that shitty 2000 cameras had no 60 FPS HD options.
Here’s a thought, do you think Simon will have as many kids as he has channel? I mean he does seem like a bit of a collector 🤪😂🤣
I love the show and the writing, but I think an important thing was overlooked. Though it isnt really relevant to the core of the story, there are a lot of comments of her husband moving on too fast. She had given him a letter discussing their relationship and being open about possibilities to new loves arising for the both of them. A quote from the letter to demonstrate this is:
"On our life together I want you to understand I shall not hold you to any midaevil code of faithfulness to me nor shall I consider myself bound to you similarly. If we can be honest I think the difficulties which arise may be best avoided should you or I become interested deeply (or in passing) in anyone else."
She seemed really amazingly minded and her influence should definitely be more than the person lost on a trip around the world. Her being a woman pilot isn't the only tradition she thought we should reevaluate.
*Edited for clarity (hopefully) *
Your last paragraph is confusing. I am not sure what you were trying to get across. Otherwise you bring up a good point. She was ahead of her time.
@@Joy-TheLazyCatLady darn typos, I was at work while writing this last year and was running low on time to finish.
The idea I was trying to get across in the last paragraph was that Earhart as a person was really an interesting person altogether. Her disappearance kind of overshadows herself as a person, where she could be a bigger influence in gender equality and how we evaluate social norms.
@@TheRngMaster ha ha. I have been there. It doesn't help that predictive text gets it wrong so often. I agree. Amelia Earhart was very much ahead of her time just as a person. Who knows what she could have done had she lived but instead all people remember is her missing person mystery. It's sad when you consider how much we need strong women roll models more than ever.
My grandfather was a Lt. Commander & served in the Pacific during WWII, aboard the U.S.S. Millicoma. He had flyers from the war that mentioned “Tokyo Rose” & I always thought they were referencing a ship. I never met him, or know much more of the story than that, but it’s interesting to wonder what he would have thought about the “Tokyo Rose” & if Amelia Earhart, was that voice. I suppose I’ll never know, but it makes for an interesting story.
The real Tokyo Rose (Iva Taguri)was a Japanese American woman from California who got stuck in Japan while visiting family when the war broke out …she later received a Presidential Pardon after having her life ruined by accusations of treason …she died in Chicago in 2006 …I donated to her before crowd funding was a app
Loving this new channel! If you’re looking for more story ideas, I’ve always been fascinated by Anastasia the lost duchess, and daughter of the last czar in Russia. Also, while I personally have done research on this, it might be interesting for your viewers to hear your take on the Salem witch trials. Looking forward to more!
So accurate, Kevin Cossner was in water world! Amazing
Simon! You haven't linked Decoding the Unknown as an affliated channel under your other channels yet!
My father was on board the USS Colorado in the 1937 search, and I have a letter from the Smithsonian thanking them for the search
That is so cool!
Excellent channel and episode! Thanks as always Simon!
Ok...Did we ever look into the backgrounds of Freddy "The Drunk" Noonan and George"Too Tall" Putnam? Casual Criminalists want to know! Putnam wants Amelia on a "one way flight". Hires the "Drunk" to make that happen and he offs her. Flying high on the six bottles of cheap gin he had hidden in the bunk radio, Freddy the Lush flys off to Atlantis...ALLEGEDLY. My work here is done. Now where is my next episode of "Casual C."?! \m/
What about Clarence Williams, he supplied the map strips. Could have been paid for wrong directions?
@@twright4263 Excellent deduction, T Wright, You must be a "Cas Crim" (I didn't wanna write it all out) We must add him to the suspect pool! Well done! Please treat yourself to your favourite vice immediately
\m/
...ok boomer
/ m /
Have you been watching Ancient Aliens lately by any chance?
If we're tackling unsolved missing persons cases here, how about Jimmy Hoffa?
Or Bob Ross?
Love the new channel. It feels like just sitting down and chatting with you and Kate.
My favourite is still the on that was the corner stone of the opening episode of Star Trek Voyager's second season. :P
In a book titled Voyage to Perdition, author Ben Rash, a US Marine during WW2 said she crashed her plane near the island of Sipan. She was captured and killed by the Japanese who controlled the island at the time. They would not let her land on the island. So she ditched in the ocean. Local tribe people told the Mariners about it and showed where the aircraft remains were.
"I think I have mentioned this in another video" - I recon that statistically you must have spoken every combination of english words in videos at this pace.
As someone from New Zealand, that was a perfect reference.
Thank you Simon, I found that interesting and entertaining.
I love the word Aviatrix.
The leading theory to me is definitely crashed in the pacific. Be it lack of fuel, some mechanical issue, whatever.
A distance second is Japanese involvement. Either in the form of spotting a random plane and shooting it down for spying and never checking. Or spotting a random plane, shooting it down, checking, realizing you made a huge mistake and not mentioning it. All it would take is one squad of maybe 3-6 pilots to just not mention shooting down a plane and the truth vanishes with them.
hey simon, i found today i found out when i was about 14 or 15. i’m now 21 and i would like to thank you and your team(s) for all the wonderful content over the years. thank you
Tragically there was a missionary plane in Bolivia that disappeared. They really knew where the plane should have been. They looked and looked but it was never found. That was on land. Can you imagine how much more difficult it would be in the Pacific Ocean.
You are on fire with this episode! Laughed so much with your narration!
Sounded like he took Fred Noonan’s hint and opened a bottle.
I'm really enjoying this channel, obviously for the content, but also because I really like this chilled out podcast style.
would you like to pat his head and give him a cuddle? nah i wouldnt either =/
Just so you know, there is a little ding in the music you use that sounds exactly like the ding my work computer makes when my boss wants to talk to me, and I get a small anxiety flood at least twice in all of your videos. I still watch because they are fantastic, but I can't quite relax while I do so 😂
She was eaten alive by coconut crabs.
Very eye opening theories. Most interesting! 😮👍👍
MH370 is a much bigger mystery, considering it happened in the 21st century and involved an entire jet airliner.
And people with cell phones.
Very valuable video, mostly because of the no BS approach to the mystery. I think a lot of people come up with these extremely unlikely scenarios as a form of entertainment (for themselves). There is still something the channel is missing....Thank you for the video.
The Buzzfeed Unsolved episode about this was really good too!
@@hannahvilleneuve9328 I will keep that in mind and might have to check that out. Thank you for the recommendation.
I think Simon's rants totally make these videos.
Thoroughly enjoyed this presentation.
"She was abducted by aliens!"
"No! She was eaten by crabs!"
"No! She was eaten by aliens!"
Weird, I was watching the last one of these and thought "I hope he does one on Amelia Earhart"!
Great analysis
In the mid 1990s I met a lady named Catherine Smith. She was 100 yrs old at the time.She had pictures of herself in an Aviation Outfit and right there with her in some pictures was Amelia Earnhardt in her Aviation Outfit .She herself was a a pilot and learned how to fly.Anyways I asked her about Amelia Earnhardt and she said that Amelia was hesitant about her trip.She was being rushed and pressure to make the trip.She told Catherine that she wasn't ready but had to go ahead anyway. Who knows maybe there was mechanical problems. The radio 📻 was not working properly. She could call out but couldn't hear from the story of trouble communicating with anyone on the ground or in the air to ask for help or Mayday as they called it.I bet her and the navigater were terrified 😨. Amelia was very brave and her navigator was brave also.Even if he was a drunkard they should have been able to see land with their maps.By the way Catherine was hundred but her mind was sharp as a tack
Two Simon vids this morning? Hell yeah!
Dude, there’s about 10 a day!!🤣🤣😳😳😊😊🥰🥰
Thanks for everything you do Simon! Do you have a patreon? I’m following so many of your channels I don’t know if i will ever run out of sweet sweet content.
Haven't you watched star trek it was aliens, she's in the delta quadrant.
They caught my red haired double crossing from the US to Canada. I watched as an update on an episode of Unsolved Mysteries. He was wanted for massive insurance fraud
Simon, you must be stoked about the Theranos conviction. I thought of you and smiled thinking of that cow going to prison 🤣
I personally think the 2 most logical possibilities are she ran out of fuel crashed and died or she crash landed in the Marshall Islands, was captured and died in captivity
FANTASTIC reference to Star Trek Voyager! 😃
That episode was amazing!
Good video 👍
Simon who's a Voyger fan doesn't slip in one Alien joke
How many channels do you have?!? I keep
Finding new ones lol
Lmao, the Vulcan, with feelings raining around him.
I've recently read that there's more square miles or kilometers in the Pacific ocean than the whole planet of Mars.
Her first navigator said she wouldn't listen to instructions, so she gets a drunk instead! Good move for flying those conditions! 🤬
When I first started watching your really serious vids, Simon, I thought “he’s a bit up himself ..& he talks too quickly”. But, how wrong I was!! Once I got on to these “unknown” vids…I realised what a fab fun guy you are! I just love your laugh ! I’m probably one of your greatest fans now…
Your videos are just brilliant as well…
I had a great aunt who was in a POW camp who claimed she saw her during the war. I don’t believe it myself, odds are she crashed in the ocean. But it’s worth noting for how people were thinking at the time.
she would have been on everyones minds at the time. plus we know how a lot of people look similar like how Simon gets told he looks like half the population just cos he's a bald dude with a beard, she was a white woman with a normal hair style of the day there was bound to be thousands of white women with that hair that would get mistaken for her
arigato for that
I'd love to hear your great aunt's story. If she was in a POW camp, it sounds like she led quite an interesting life!
@@Priyacinema she didn’t talk about it much for obvious reasons. But she was a nurse stationed there with her husband. Were left behind like so many others with MacArthur abounded so many of his troops on the island. Forced on the Bataan Death March, her husband passed away during this time but she’s not sure when because men and women were kept in separate camps and it’s a couple year period. She managed to smuggle in some medicine to the camp and got either the bronze or silver star (don’t remember which) when the camps were free. Not something she ever wanted to talk about because of the torture she endured, so a lot of what I know are pieced together from the rare times she would talk about and other family members sharing what they were told.
TY 🙏🙏
Well, if you fly around the world at one of the poles, that'd be cheating.
6 miles off comments! Howland Island and Lae are approximately 7.55 degree latitude apart. Degree latitude to miles range from 68.7 miles apart(near equator) up to 69.4 miles apart (closer to the poles). 7.55x68.7=518.6 and 7.55x69.4=523.97 for a difference of approximately 6 miles. Clarence Williams mapped out that area and was responsible for the map strips for their flight. There is one in the Purdue archive for Honolulu to Oakland California, 2400 miles with at least 15 compass changes in order to fly in a straight line.
She ran into headwinds that threw off her fuel calculations and time table. Because of this she left behind her trailing antenna at the previous fuel stop to save weight and therefore fuel. And she arrived near the last fuel stop after sunset instead of before. Without the heavy spool of antenna wire they could not accurately determine their position between radio stations on shore and her plane (See: radio triangulation as a means of determining position). Ground crew said later that they heard a plane but could not see it. Sound travels a long way over the ocean at night. They lit signal fires but she was probably too far away to see them. She probably flew on beyond the island, ran out of fuel, and ditched in the sea. All of this was in a book written by one of her ground crew and published shortly after the tragedy. That book was in my high school library. She gambled one too many times and lost. End of story.
Red Webs of these is good too both are worth the listen
You should do a video on Admiral Byrd and the Hollow Earth
A regular English speaker: “Amelia Earhart”
Simon: “Ameliar Rearhart”
When is the next episode of casual criminalist?
Always thought her disappearance was intriguing, I think they found a landing gear tire or something from the plane was found on the shore of an island. I can't remember for sure though, to many Simon Whistler vids ago to remember
Hmmm seems a little Brain Blaze is seeping into this channel too. Fantastic!! Makes it even better!!
Causal Criminalist when?
Wow!!!this guy is good, he should think about starting a few more channels like with other stuff like criminals, geography, or like big project type stuff!!! 😁😁👍👍😁😁
I believe that they just crashed. Maybe they made it to an island, but probably not.
If I had 100 bucks I would put 62 on crashed in Ocean, 36 on Landed wrong island plane broken beyond repair and they died due to lack of food & water, & 2 on The Japanese got them and kept it quite. I love a long shot. Shout out to my boy Fred who died as a Daimyo in Kyoto.
Simon please do one on d.b Cooper. Can't wait
I remember seeing a video where an engine was found on an island that is the same type of engine that Amelia's plane used, and also a bottle of freckle cream was also found, which was the identical brand that Amelia used. Of course there is no way of proving they belonged to Amelia, since not much else was found, but the island also has a very large society of a very dangerous crab species that is known to kill any animal or human that sets foot on the island, and because of this it makes doing any research impossible, because the crabs are large & dangerous & carnivorous. They literally killed every animal on the island and pose a threat to humans. The theory is that they killed Amelia & her co-pilot on the night of her crash and the island is well within the range of Amelia's plane...but again, there is no way to prove it.
The coconut crab? They're not aggressive toward humans--but if you croak in their vicinity, they'll tuck in immediately.
@@aq5426 They could have crashed and been incapacitated, so maybe not offering any resistance to the crabs.
I think they just crashed in the Pacific somewhere and we'll never find out
@@aq5426 yes in the video it talked about the coconut crab
The island is 350 mile south of Howland. They emptied the plane of almost all its contents just to get 2556 miles, including the raft and life jackets.
"Eaten by crabs" is probably one of the fates I wish the least on a hypothetical enemy.
Star Trek Voyagers episodes take on this was fun.
The U.S. Navy was still using some 1840s maps in the Pacific during the 2d. War. A major U.S. Exploring Expedition mapped in the Pacific in the 1840s, the Wilkes Expedition.
The airplane they used wouldn't hold up to the water pressure of the Pacific Ocean. I don't think there is really much mystery to the outcome of missing a small island in very deep water.
In fact, the widower wasn't that bad. He worked closely with Amalia's sister to obtain her legacy and also took financial responsibilty for his mother in law for the rest of her life. Also he wasn't as tall as in that picture.
Yes that's all well and good but what about Aliens? LOL
I believe her radio antenna was a long cable slung underneath, and was ripped off during takeoff a day or two earlier. The TIGHARS web site has a lot of detail, and it seems like an actual realistic theory that they landed there and did survive for a few days, even making a few radio calls before the plane slipped away.
the A's a pyramidal!
just.. A mazing
I don't know which channel you should do this on, but you have got to cover the SINKING OF THE COSTA CONCORDIA. The mayor who chewed up the captain...L E G E N D!!!
6:35 at least he waited for the funeral, lol