Let me guess. They'll investigate and press charges against someone accused of impersonating a police officer in 5 hours or less, but will take more than 500 days to investigate one of their own impersonating a defense attorney. Absolutely disgusting.
The reason they are allowed to lie is because they work for a corrupt criminal corporation called the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. The cops don’t swear an oath to the constitution. They swear an oath to the criminal corporation. Hence, they are granted immunity to prosecution for breaking constitutional laws. The laws of the corporation are based on Maritime law. Our government is a total scam full of pedophile judges and corrupt politicians. Most of them are Freemasons. Trump included. We are on our own. Never let the cops into your house. Don’t ever call 911. They are trained to get you to incriminate yourself on tape. It’s us against them. The government agents are the enemy of the people!!
Police should not be able to police or investigate their own people. 2000+ cases which are taking over 500+ days to start investigating is totally unacceptable.
It’s tricky I have learned as an attorney some DA offices are split between white collar and violent crime. If an accusation is made against one the other side which is not as collegial due to lack of contact takes the case
It's actually against the constitution for the accused to be their own judge in a criminal matter. But the pd does it every day instead of handing the investigation off to another department
You have to ask yourself why would it take 500 days. The only reasonable answers are that they are incompetent or they believe 500 days is long enough for the public to forget about it so that they can let the cop under investigation off easy or totally off without any public backlash.
@@warnmar10 You mean the one that also found that there was a very good reason for the Russia investigation including convicting 13 Whitehouse staffers as well as 11 Russian agents?
I know. When I first found out that the SCOTUS said that cops can lie while interrogating you I found it disgusting. This is how they get people to falsely confess to crimes. They tell you that they have your fingerprints or someone already identified you as the culprit.
@@erikanders3343 that ruling is for civil liability. If you call 911 and police don’t make it in time, and can’t save you, your family can’t sue. Every agency has a policy for cowardice. If they fail to act, they’re getting fired.
@@richvan2128 No they do not get fired. In the cases DeShaney vs. Winnebago and Town of Castle Rock vs. Gonzales, the supreme court has ruled that police agencies are not obligated to provide protection of citizens. Cops do not care and are not required to care about anyone but cops, and only then because its in their union contracts.
I guarantee you when he got in trouble his fellow officers tried to comfort him like he was a victim, and said things like “they just won’t let us do our job.”
@@kimk2635 should look at the cops in cases to find out how often it happens. Gotta know all the things they do to figure out what’s going on at the ground level.
This officer of the police force must be prosecuted to the full extent of THE LAW. PUT IN JAIL WITH, let’s say $5,000,000.00, all in cash for his bail.
@@williamwhitfield6225 it just depends on this particular issue and in this case it doesn’t make sense. SBI is more appropriate. Knowing the difference between SBI and FBI is important here.
I find it offensive that they get to continue working as a cop while still being investigated for breaking the law. But then given their backlog who knows if there would be police in the streets if they didn't allow them to continue working. So in effect, they are letting potential criminals uphold the law. Sounds stupid on its face but somehow it "works" in the American Judicial System.
It will take them 2,739 years the clear all the misconduct case at there current rate if they don’t get any more. And they wonder why they are not trusted by everyone. I am never moving to Arizona and I may not visit and I have a nephew that I raised living there
They have no intention of moving forward on any of those cases. They will stay open until the heat dies down, the deputy retires or transfers to a new department. _(with a clean slate)_ In the miraculous event they DO conclude the case, the charges will be unfounded.
500hrs and 2,000+ complaints...let's do the math...500x2000=1,000,000hrs ÷ 40hr work week=25,000 weeks ÷ 52 weeks in a year = 480 years. Guess this proves that you can't charge what you can't get to?
I don't know about Arizona, but in most states it is a crime to misrepresent yourself as a lawyer. The DA should file criminal charges if it is a crime in AZ.
Practicing law and saying you’re a lawyer are two different things. Same goes for people impersonating an officer. You can say you’re a cop, but you can’t act as one. This probably isn’t illegal. But definitely unethical.
MCSO has more than 2,000 misconduct cases open, and it takes ~500 days to investigate and close a single case??? My word. That department needs completely disbanded and rebuilt. That's insanely corrupt. Their IA is, in and of itself, corrupt!
In reality most cases and being founded within a few days they prolong the investigation and hopes that people will forget them and they do they just leave them alone figures no need to follow up
This is what happens when the it’s legal for those in the legal system are permitted to lie their asses off. Human nature proves that they will always push the boundaries. And with zero or near zero accountability and consequences this was bound to happen and as it has in the past, will continue to get far far worse.
SO!!! a citizen posing as a police officer will be hammered for impersonating a police officer BUT!!! When a LAW enforcement officer poses as a LAWYER everyone will drag their feet
@@paulwilliams73 no disagreement here. I happen to believe you should be either no matter who you are are what you understand. If your a good person to begin with the chances are 90% you soon will be a tyrant.
Oklahoma's a right to work state good luck with that private union crap. If you've ever wondered where justice is in our justice system is it can be found in Section 5.1 within the Uniform Bonding Code:
Could they also get an operative from a grand jury or regional citizens council to stage themselves & pose as an attorney, as needed? Maybe recruit /order a family member, and stage them as the friendly operative?
"Now dont be ungrateful folks, you've had tip top service so far and we only have the 2000 complaints to deal with. We will be making a start on them in the coming months and hope to have them all seen to in about umm, bare with me a second, 2000 multiply by 500 take the piss carry the one ummm about 200 years and i cant say fairer than that. We really put the serve into protect and serve. Now if someone would like to wake up the Mayor and the Chief of Police we have some bravery awards to present followed by some cake"
I really want to trust the police. I've had a few interactions that were OK, although the word "helpful" would be an exaggeration. But the more I learn, the less I trust, and the more I look on them as dangerous creatures that I should avoid. And I live in a city where the department has received federal attention for corruption and violence.
After a 10 year internal investigation he was given a half hour unpaid suspension and banned of coming within 100 feet of any doughnut shop until next Tuesday.
look like to me there a lot of Miller, just asking all from one family in department with a lot of power , and this is one list just asking ???????????
It may have crossed a line that's recognized by other attorneys but, it may be a line that is gray because police tactics include a ruse or lie in capturing fugitives.
Let's note that deputies are allowed to lie .. and this is what happens, 20 bucks says he gets no warnings and at most he is requested to resign. so he can go and do the same in another place.
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Let me guess. They'll investigate and press charges against someone accused of impersonating a police officer in 5 hours or less, but will take more than 500 days to investigate one of their own impersonating a defense attorney. Absolutely disgusting.
So we've gone from "we investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing" to "we'll investigate ourselves eventually".
We’re going to clear ourselves anyway so we’re in no rush.
How anyone still has respect for cops is beyond me.
The reason they are allowed to lie is because they work for a corrupt criminal corporation called the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. The cops don’t swear an oath to the constitution. They swear an oath to the criminal corporation. Hence, they are granted immunity to prosecution for breaking constitutional laws. The laws of the corporation are based on Maritime law. Our government is a total scam full of pedophile judges and corrupt politicians. Most of them are Freemasons. Trump included. We are on our own. Never let the cops into your house. Don’t ever call 911. They are trained to get you to incriminate yourself on tape. It’s us against them. The government agents are the enemy of the people!!
Police should not be able to police or investigate their own people. 2000+ cases which are taking over 500+ days to start investigating is totally unacceptable.
It’s tricky I have learned as an attorney some DA offices are split between white collar and violent crime. If an accusation is made against one the other side which is not as collegial due to lack of contact takes the case
It's actually against the constitution for the accused to be their own judge in a criminal matter. But the pd does it every day instead of handing the investigation off to another department
You have to ask yourself why would it take 500 days. The only reasonable answers are that they are incompetent or they believe 500 days is long enough for the public to forget about it so that they can let the cop under investigation off easy or totally off without any public backlash.
Yup, time for the feds to come in and do those investigations for them
The body cans have helped a lot but we still need to corner these people with more cameras and emails monitoring.
2000 cases 500 days if that doesn’t say corruption idk what does.
The Law applies to us--the poor American ppl--not to the rich or the ppl that protect them from us (the Police).
2000 misconduct cases? Sounds like they need someone else in charge.
Thousands of complaints? 500 days to complete an investigation? Sounds like MCSO needs some Justice Department Oversight.
Russia Russia Russia? That Justice Dept?
@@warnmar10 You mean the one that also found that there was a very good reason for the Russia investigation including convicting 13 Whitehouse staffers as well as 11 Russian agents?
The fact that only police are allowed to lie is mind boggling and it’s should be illegal in state and federal
I know. When I first found out that the SCOTUS said that cops can lie while interrogating you I found it disgusting. This is how they get people to falsely confess to crimes. They tell you that they have your fingerprints or someone already identified you as the culprit.
Thank the supreme court for that one and the ruling that the police have no duty to protect you from a murder.
@@erikanders3343 that ruling is for civil liability. If you call 911 and police don’t make it in time, and can’t save you, your family can’t sue.
Every agency has a policy for cowardice. If they fail to act, they’re getting fired.
@@richvan2128 No they do not get fired. In the cases DeShaney vs. Winnebago and Town of Castle Rock vs. Gonzales, the supreme court has ruled that police agencies are not obligated to provide protection of citizens.
Cops do not care and are not required to care about anyone but cops, and only then because its in their union contracts.
@@erikanders3343 lol riiiiiiiiiiight
I guarantee you when he got in trouble his fellow officers tried to comfort him like he was a victim, and said things like “they just won’t let us do our job.”
Great reporting 👏🏽
Fake news
@@peterbarrett5496 they really put their best foot forward this time and they will be celebrated for it I can appreciate a genuine effort
If a law enforcement office is unable to investigate itself in a timely manner, maybe it's time for some real police reform.
They just shouldn't investigate themselves
@@kimk2635 should look at the cops in cases to find out how often it happens. Gotta know all the things they do to figure out what’s going on at the ground level.
@@kimk2635 Also the local DA should not get to decide to charge or not, that at best is a state DA decision.
If it was an attorney impersonating a cop, the trial would have been over by now. Working at the speed of Government to protect their own.
This officer of the police force must be prosecuted to the full extent of THE LAW. PUT IN JAIL WITH, let’s say $5,000,000.00, all in cash for his bail.
Make him pay from his pension
The eighth amendment prohibits excessive bail. Regardless he will just be reprimanded or taken to civil court.
@@nicolassellers2694 never stopped them before
I wish we could get an update on this.
It's getting harder and harder to tell the good guys from the bad guys.
ACAB
Not really. They wear costumes.
Police shouldn't lie to you in order to investigate, entrapment should be illegal period.
"We've investigated ourselves after 3 years and discovered there was not enough evidence to warrant a response."
Maricopa County police are definitely something else.
Good job Dave! Keep it up! You sure have your work cut out for you. It’s seem never ending.
wow, that part at the end about their internal investigations..... When does the FBI step in to complete those investigations for them?
FBI? Not really in the law and order business any more.
Right, there’s no telling what else he’s done.
Why would the FBI intervene yet?
@@brianholloway6205 They do intervene and conduct investigation on certain allegations of corruption.
@@williamwhitfield6225 it just depends on this particular issue and in this case it doesn’t make sense. SBI is more appropriate. Knowing the difference between SBI and FBI is important here.
If the police can investigate police then criminals should be able to punish themselves
Our Justice system needs to be reformed
We have "The Injustice" system!
impersonate a police officer and see what happens the person is fired in jail on the spot
This is unbelievable. Yes they can lie but seriously impersonating a lawyer.
What's the difference?
He's gonna walk away a free man no charges
What do you expect in Arizona , some of the most corrupt cops in the world there.
Government employees from Maricopa should all be investigated, like sheriff Apiaro they don't care about laws.
There’s no law a cop isn’t willing to break when their egos get hurt
Wow. Ths is scary people.
What a shameful human
Let’s investigate ourselves and find no wrong doing. Criminals.
I find it offensive that they get to continue working as a cop while still being investigated for breaking the law. But then given their backlog who knows if there would be police in the streets if they didn't allow them to continue working. So in effect, they are letting potential criminals uphold the law. Sounds stupid on its face but somehow it "works" in the American Judicial System.
America's INJUSTICE system!
*Jesus*
*They Gettin Sneaky With It*
They stretch a case out for so long and just let it fade away
It will take them 2,739 years the clear all the misconduct case at there current rate if they don’t get any more. And they wonder why they are not trusted by everyone. I am never moving to Arizona and I may not visit and I have a nephew that I raised living there
Arizona is the home of cesspool police departments. I always thought Virginia was bad but Arizona can’t be beat.
He won't be held accountable. Mark my word
Yeah seriously. It’s complete and utter bull. I truly feel like people arent going to take much more of this. Something has to change
They have no intention of moving forward on any of those cases. They will stay open until the heat dies down, the deputy retires or transfers to a new department. _(with a clean slate)_
In the miraculous event they DO conclude the case, the charges will be unfounded.
"We punished them.....two weeks off WITH pay.".....normally called a vacation.
And after a expensive investigation (a waste of your taxpayer's money) we find no wrongdoing and this officer is not going to be punished
500hrs and 2,000+ complaints...let's do the math...500x2000=1,000,000hrs ÷ 40hr work week=25,000 weeks ÷ 52 weeks in a year = 480 years. Guess this proves that you can't charge what you can't get to?
Well they have more than one investigator. Lol
This is pretty cut and dry! You charge the officer
We've investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong
I don't know about Arizona, but in most states it is a crime to misrepresent yourself as a lawyer. The DA should file criminal charges if it is a crime in AZ.
Practicing law without a license. What would happen if the lawyer pretended to be a cop. Lock him up!
Practicing law and saying you’re a lawyer are two different things.
Same goes for people impersonating an officer. You can say you’re a cop, but you can’t act as one.
This probably isn’t illegal. But definitely unethical.
Show me a cop I’ll show you a criminal .
These thugs should be in prison ‼️‼️😡😠😤
Woops 2,000 internal investigation case. Some stinks at MCSO.
Well this means that deputy Miller is going to get a few days off with pay. That'll teach him.
This is just the tip of the iceberg 🧐
Why is it ALWAYS MCSO? Backlog of internal investigations?
No wonder people hate the pigs so much.
MCSO has more than 2,000 misconduct cases open, and it takes ~500 days to investigate and close a single case???
My word. That department needs completely disbanded and rebuilt. That's insanely corrupt. Their IA is, in and of itself, corrupt!
I'm certain the judge of this case will be pissed when he hears about this.
That's an optimistic POV. Have you actually paid attention to how the Justice system in America works?
In reality most cases and being founded within a few days they prolong the investigation and hopes that people will forget them and they do they just leave them alone figures no need to follow up
Sounds like another stellar Maricopa County area member of the ThinBlueLyin’ Gang just doing what they do…
500 days to complete a case. Don’t take them that long, when a citizen is arrested.
Imagine that. It's almost as if there's a double standard.
Lol they will investigate themselves and find no wrong doing
2000 cases at an average of 500 days to complete, wow. In other words forget about it. Why would it take 500 days?
Qualified Immunity to the rescue!
This is what happens when the it’s legal for those in the legal system are permitted to lie their asses off. Human nature proves that they will always push the boundaries. And with zero or near zero accountability and consequences this was bound to happen and as it has in the past, will continue to get far far worse.
Screw them, have him charged with impersonating a lawyer and sue him personally.
next thing: cops dress as robbers.
Let the U.S. Dept. Of Justice in on this one and see some action
If they arrested these people then maybe some innocent people might get their freedom back
SO!!! a citizen posing as a police officer will be hammered for impersonating a police officer BUT!!!
When a LAW enforcement officer poses as a LAWYER everyone will drag their feet
I think the problem is who can tell the difference?
@@stillraven9415 ??? if you can't work out the difference you should not be ether police or lawyer
@@paulwilliams73 no disagreement here. I happen to believe you should be either no matter who you are are what you understand. If your a good person to begin with the chances are 90% you soon will be a tyrant.
I was able to get two face-to-face visits with a family member of Mine incarcerated by pretending to be a defense attorney.
If there is a law he should be prosecuted if there is no law then there should be a law. Me thinks there is a law but nothing will be done
A cop doing this should be a 10 year minimum mandatory sentence
Is the State Bar pursuing the matter on its own? What sort of backlog does the Bar have?
MCSO needs to be completely disbanded, the union removed and hire new officers.
500 per case review yea good cops protecting good cops
Sue tht cop!! Set him up!
Oklahoma's a right to work state good luck with that private union crap. If you've ever wondered where justice is in our justice system is it can be found in Section 5.1 within the Uniform Bonding Code:
Absolutely disgusting!
We will get to it by the year 4020. Call us then!! MCSO.
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH,,,,,,,,,,,,,
and you say they do not think they are above the law
This cop watched The Departed way too many times.
How many times have I did that any case they did that on should be dismissed immediately this should be able to be sued for Millions if not billions
Report to the State Bar association!
Could they also get an operative from a grand jury or regional citizens council to stage themselves & pose as an attorney, as needed?
Maybe recruit /order a family member, and stage them as the friendly operative?
This is crazy! I would open a lawsuit and make them move faster.
Isn’t this a felony in Arizona?
there is not a single non criminal employeed in maricopa county sherifs. Their all in need of real hard definite justice
Investigation AKA we will find a way to cover up.
What ever happened with this story?
"Now dont be ungrateful folks, you've had tip top service so far and we only have the 2000 complaints to deal with. We will be making a start on them in the coming months and hope to have them all seen to in about umm, bare with me a second, 2000 multiply by 500 take the piss carry the one ummm about 200 years and i cant say fairer than that. We really put the serve into protect and serve. Now if someone would like to wake up the Mayor and the Chief of Police we have some bravery awards to present followed by some cake"
I think I saw this move on the show, Chicago Fire or another over the top cop show.
I really want to trust the police. I've had a few interactions that were OK, although the word "helpful" would be an exaggeration. But the more I learn, the less I trust, and the more I look on them as dangerous creatures that I should avoid. And I live in a city where the department has received federal attention for corruption and violence.
Hmmm...maybe its time to legally restrict the right of police to lie? Just a thought.
It's outrageous, egregious, preposterous- jackie chiles
the "pending investigation" ruse to avoid answering probing questions is abused too often with impunity.
After a 10 year internal investigation he was given a half hour unpaid suspension and banned of coming within 100 feet of any doughnut shop until next Tuesday.
End qualified immunity
this is worse than
Arizona I didn't think it was possible but you have passed Texas for the worst Law enforcement in America!
Long time ago
look like to me there a lot of Miller, just asking all from one family in department with a lot of power , and this is one list just asking ???????????
It may have crossed a line that's recognized by other attorneys but, it may be a line that is gray because police tactics include a ruse or lie in capturing fugitives.
Let's note that deputies are allowed to lie .. and this is what happens, 20 bucks says he gets no warnings and at most he is requested to resign. so he can go and do the same in another place.
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