[TF2] In Defense Of The Dalokohs Bar

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  • Опубликовано: 1 янв 2025

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  • @GripFist
    @GripFist Год назад +2924

    i’ll never forget the time a tryhard demoman accused me of cheating because i was using the dalokohs bar

    • @ani_star9729
      @ani_star9729 Год назад +474

      I remember a friend of mine got accused of cheating because he no scoped someone with the Classic and they just genuinely didn’t know that was what the Classic could do

    • @GripFist
      @GripFist Год назад +629

      @@ani_star9729 people always think they’re hot shit at tf2 until you pull out a funny niche gimmick weapon

    • @pan6991
      @pan6991 Год назад +64

      ​@@GripFistWell said... Well said...😢

    • @nicholaslogan6840
      @nicholaslogan6840 Год назад +98

      performance enhancing chocolate

    • @pan6991
      @pan6991 Год назад +5

      real

  • @punkmunkie167
    @punkmunkie167 Год назад +841

    I like how this combo is basically about losing loads of calories from running, then gaining them again from eating chocolate

    • @brounee2
      @brounee2 Год назад +35

      LMAO TRUE

    • @ginam5497
      @ginam5497 2 месяца назад +1

      considering heavy's hp is equal to his weight it truly is

  • @reagansido5823
    @reagansido5823 Год назад +3265

    As if being chocolate wasn't unhealthy enough, you're also eating it WAY more then other items.

    • @ishxxl
      @ishxxl Год назад +120

      I hate being chocolate!

    • @VagueCastle649
      @VagueCastle649 Год назад +85

      Not if you're eating a 100% cacao chocolate bar.

    • @clownplayer7265
      @clownplayer7265 Год назад +89

      No worries, respawn is one hell of a way to lose weight and burn calories.

    • @bobertastic6541
      @bobertastic6541 Год назад +38

      that is why he gains more hp he gets it from the extra pounds

    • @O5MO
      @O5MO Год назад +18

      What about fishcake though? Its a direct upgrade because of that.

  • @thunderstudent
    @thunderstudent Год назад +2339

    The Dalokohs Bar is preferable to a raw steak.

    • @donanilao7724
      @donanilao7724 Год назад +216

      I rather take diabetes over food poisoning.

    • @Kuzip23
      @Kuzip23 Год назад +90

      @@donanilao7724 im gonna take a shotgun!

    • @theolympiyn8670
      @theolympiyn8670 Год назад +191

      @@Kuzip23that can’t be good for your stomach

    • @ARG0T
      @ARG0T Год назад +35

      Do these NPCs not realize you can eat steak damn near raw?

    • @mrchoochooguy4045
      @mrchoochooguy4045 Год назад

      ​@@theolympiyn8670ima eat gas passer then cloak in front of a pyro
      KABOOM

  • @LeafBush_
    @LeafBush_ Год назад +1169

    3:15 is actually fkin hilarious that sniper was so polite about smearing your brains on that wall

    • @-AAA-147
      @-AAA-147 Год назад +268

      "be polite, be efficient, have a plan to kill everyone you meet"

    • @irregularassassin6380
      @irregularassassin6380 Год назад +201

      He almost died for it too. He got headshot immediately afterward. That wasn't a killbind.

    • @vida2559
      @vida2559 Год назад +38

      Professionals have standards.

    • @thepope2412
      @thepope2412 Год назад +24

      Average tf2 experience

    • @nosu5530
      @nosu5530 7 месяцев назад +3

      He's a profession alright

  • @Madafrn
    @Madafrn Год назад +1012

    Since four years I've used the Dalokohs Bar and let me tell you, there's no better feeling than surviving a random critical pipe or direct hit, killing them, and taunting.

    • @jimbocraggins
      @jimbocraggins Год назад +105

      and then the hackusation

    • @ИгроьТоросян
      @ИгроьТоросян Год назад +8

      Brotha, I know your feeling, i've seen it too

    • @CallofDutyBlackOps28
      @CallofDutyBlackOps28 Год назад +8

      or a random machina too. i play on harvest alot and how some people i know use the thing; having that 300 HP; die even while having the metal hands on, is rough. the bar lets me live and i squeak away while they then realize i have the bar on. really all i need sometimes, if not dealing with machinas i just use a shotgun.

  • @grfrjiglstan
    @grfrjiglstan Год назад +263

    Fun fact: the chocolate bar doesn't increase your max overheal because that extra medigun healing is working against the diabetes.

  • @blackknight9156
    @blackknight9156 Год назад +304

    A very useful upside of the Dalokohs bar is that it brings the resistance thresholds of the Brass Beast and Natascha up to 175 health instead of 150. While it may not sound that consequential, having that much more health and resistance that kicks in even earlier can make you unbelievably tanky when using these items together.

    • @Falcarious
      @Falcarious Год назад +33

      With the damage resists, it's 210 vs 180 effective HP. You can survive an extra pipe or rocket :D

    • @the_dude_who_asked
      @the_dude_who_asked Год назад +3

      Iron fist

    • @MaximusChivus
      @MaximusChivus Год назад +17

      ​@@Falcarious With total effective HP sadly it doesn't bring you up to surviving 4 rockets
      Dalokohs + Brass beast = 385 effective
      Brass beast = 330 effective
      Still enough to be really nice and survive more splash from rockets, pipes, and possibly enough to tank an extra sticky, but not a tier up for direct hit rockets and pipes. Think it's enough to survive an extra double donk and direct hit soldier rocket unlike the dalokohs bar or brass beast individually though.

    • @Scyzzles
      @Scyzzles Год назад +8

      @@MaximusChivus
      That would be true if the damage resistance didn't also count for the hit which brings you under 50% health, which it does.

    • @davidegaruti2582
      @davidegaruti2582 6 месяцев назад +1

      you could use the natasha+dalokas+gru for an ambush assassin heavy that flanks the enemy and does medic pics with the slowdown effect of the natasha XD
      altough maybe the tomislav works better for this ...

  • @theballoonfamily9539
    @theballoonfamily9539 Год назад +552

    3:20 love how the sniper took his time to actually thank you for standing still before headshotting you

    • @Quickstein
      @Quickstein Год назад

      Thanks for standing still, wankah

    • @kritikal965
      @kritikal965 Год назад

      Be polite. Be efficient and have a plan to kill everyone you meet

    • @woppagangnamstyle
      @woppagangnamstyle Год назад +111

      The fact he himself got headshotted one second later is what gets me.

    • @Super121830
      @Super121830 Год назад +53

      Be polite

    • @thr333stars
      @thr333stars Год назад +32

      Be efficient

  • @tigerlover2853
    @tigerlover2853 Год назад +606

    “This is Heavy’s chocolate bar.”
    “As you can see, unknown little baby man has taken bite out of it without breaking it beforehand.”
    “Heavy will find the person who has done this and break their spine like twig.”

    • @peterkershaw11
      @peterkershaw11 Год назад +60

      *”…break their spine like Twix”

    • @werewolfchampion
      @werewolfchampion Год назад +16

      This is so fitting 🤭

    • @TheGuyWhoIsSitting
      @TheGuyWhoIsSitting Год назад +29

      “The one that looks like it has a bite taken out of it.”
      “Yeah… “looks” like”
      “Yeah. That’s what I said. Looks like.”
      “YEAH… “ _LOOKS_ ” like.”

    • @pissthrower4477
      @pissthrower4477 Год назад +5

      "Im going to break you... like a kitkat bar".
      -Goku

  • @dvircohen2465
    @dvircohen2465 Год назад +746

    I eat your choclate, I eat all of your choclate!

    • @Zmeeed01
      @Zmeeed01 Год назад +44

      "Ow, crap! I have a freakin' diabetes now!”
      * Scout critical death scream *

    • @molassesman4066
      @molassesman4066 Год назад +7

      ​@Zmeeed01 with how high his metablolism that he can eat a hyper monster and be fune ever 30 seconds?
      He could eat all the planets food and only gsin 13 pounds

    • @americanmapping832
      @americanmapping832 Год назад +17

      Turns into fat scout*

    • @davidhong1934
      @davidhong1934 Год назад +8

      ​@@americanmapping832
      Nice hustle, tons of fun!
      Next time, eat a salad >:P

    • @Osakabigcool555
      @Osakabigcool555 Год назад

      s

  • @m.i.g.2023
    @m.i.g.2023 Год назад +1054

    Imagine if overheal didn't cap at 450, Dalokohs would be #1 choice for pocket Heavies

    • @marisakirisame1st
      @marisakirisame1st Год назад +228

      if dalokohs let you have 525 max overheal, then you could survive a fully charged machina headshot

    • @ghastlygibus2121
      @ghastlygibus2121 Год назад +118

      I don't need flashbacks of the Super Overhealed Heavy with 9999999 health.

    • @lenship2
      @lenship2 Год назад +69

      the dalokoh **does* stack with the crossbow however, meaning if you have a pro medic who can do crossbow + vaccinator tech, you can be even more tankier

    • @calamaribowl8683
      @calamaribowl8683 Год назад +58

      *500 health heavy with brass beast*
      _Oh, Neptune._

    • @lennybjorowitz4256
      @lennybjorowitz4256 Год назад +23

      @@ghastlygibus2121 the ghost of that bug is still in the game. it just caps at 260 ish with gru out.
      its a bit finicky and you can get some varied health with lows of 200 and highs of 310.
      meaning yes mele heavy's have options, steak's minicrits coupled with vurnability or Delco's healing and tankyness coupled with the inability to be healed by medics above 150.(since you just have big overheal).

  • @PnchBagTF2
    @PnchBagTF2 Год назад +96

    2:43 he poisoned his medic with the autobalance sandvich

    • @Unfunnyguy2763
      @Unfunnyguy2763 4 месяца назад +6

      Shut up and take my like, funny comment right there

    • @Unfunnyguy2763
      @Unfunnyguy2763 4 месяца назад +5

      Even the demo got confused

  • @Davtwan
    @Davtwan Год назад +164

    Ok that Heavy + Medic kill at 6:40 is pretty convincing even if the fire was making his healing less effective.

    • @Sergmanny46
      @Sergmanny46 Год назад +21

      Yup. By all means, he should have died. That heavy and medic must have been pissed at him still alive, I'd be mad too. The chocolate bar is that good.

    • @spootis
      @spootis Год назад +7

      chocolate bar deserve the W

  • @atomicleon1519
    @atomicleon1519 Год назад +1130

    [Eating Chocolate]
    Game: Heals bullet wounds and makes you slightly healthier.
    IRL: Diabetic Shock

    • @jessehunter362
      @jessehunter362 Год назад +36

      bakers chocolate
      edit: and actually, chocolates can be really useful to keep you alive

    • @AAAAA-eb6cr
      @AAAAA-eb6cr Год назад +2

      Free diabetes food

    • @Tampenismall
      @Tampenismall Год назад +3

      Insulant

    • @GrandSnow469
      @GrandSnow469 Год назад +34

      Is this american thing or what? Chocolate has got to be one of the healthiest sweets

    • @davidhong1934
      @davidhong1934 Год назад +21

      ​@@GrandSnow469
      Not in America it ain't
      ...now thar I think about it, I don't think Hershey bars contain actual cocoa

  • @joshuakim5240
    @joshuakim5240 Год назад +75

    The Gru+bar bug also logically makes sense since in context the Heavy is running and pushing himself harder than usual, tiring him out (the hp drain), but the sugar rush of the chocolate bar replenishes his spent stamina in a short, small burst.

    • @kingstaze9696
      @kingstaze9696 Год назад +23

      Never considered a realistic explanation for... anything in TF2, really.

    • @georgethakur
      @georgethakur Год назад

      @@kingstaze9696*ROCKET JUMPING WAS INVENTED BY SHAKESPEARICLES AND WAS THE ONLY WAY TO REACH THE SECOND FLOOR OF A BUILDING UNTIL ABRAHAM LINCOLN INVENTED STAIRS*

  • @figeon
    @figeon Год назад +89

    I’m a heavy main (yes I know) and I usually run the dalokohs bar. That extra 50 health really improves heavy’s survivability. In practice it feels like a huge buff. Plus, I don’t need to max up my health all the time. Sometimes just a quick 100 health boost is enough to get back in a fight and win it.

    • @heartnet40
      @heartnet40 Год назад +9

      In the world of the unknown that is 90% of most of TF2 gameplay, I prefer relying on the chocolate more than expect a friendly Medic to rely on. Moreso than anywhere else, the DPS on Heavy is super important when you can't guarantee coordinated pushes or defenses and the chocolate helps you sustain that consistently.
      I'd never run this in comp or experienced gameplay, but the fact that I still use this thing at all is more than most of Heavy's arsenal will ever see.

    • @massgunner4152
      @massgunner4152 Год назад +2

      The problem is that you need to wait a long ass time to heal yourself since the thing got nerfed with a cooldown after eating it and you still have the unnecesary long animation of heavy eating the thing.

  • @Cargoesbeepbeep
    @Cargoesbeepbeep Год назад +120

    If Valve figures out how to fix the GRU and Dalokohs bar switch overheal exploit through its messy spaghetti code, then they should definitely bring back the overheal feature that the Dalokohs bar used to have as the only reason why it was removed was because this switch exploit used to be way more broken during Jungle Inferno where it would give the Heavy almost infinite health, and Valve only put an end to the infinite health exploit by nerfing the Dalokohs bar so it couldn't overheal anymore making the infinite health exploit impossible, but Valve technically never really fixed the bug.

    • @catke590
      @catke590 Год назад +9

      Maybe, or they could just give it a 4 second speed boost after eating it, or faster eating animation, or something else, because the Dalokohsbar still sucked with or without the overheal. As Fish said, and sadly from a perspective, this exploit is probably the only thing that makes this weapon good over the banana.

    • @Cargoesbeepbeep
      @Cargoesbeepbeep Год назад +6

      @@catke590 Yeah, I didn't play tf2 back then, but I heard the Dalokohs bar was still underused even with the overheal, but at least it would make the Dalokohs bar a little bit better as having overheal that can bring your health up to 400 and draining back to 350 is better than having no overheal and it just bringing your health up to 350. The overheal was only removed because of a bug and if they manage to fix it, then I feel like they should bring it back assuming the GRU and Dalokohs bar exploit doesn't work anymore.

    • @bobbyferg9173
      @bobbyferg9173 Год назад +8

      Valve’s method of fixing problems by just removing a whole feature really was painful to see as someone who runs the Dalokohs bar.
      I find the bar in its current state to be a very fine unlock, but it really could benefit from getting its overheal back, or any other small buff really

    • @Labyrinth6000
      @Labyrinth6000 Год назад

      I still remember that time, You spammed m1 while eating the chocolate bar on a jungle infernal themed map and it gave you nearly endless health. Pretty nasty bug at the time and they fixed it.

    • @ashlynn8187
      @ashlynn8187 Год назад +2

      Or they could remove the exploit by- and hear me out here- just making it so that the gloves of running urgently mark you for death again.

  • @calebgalant5284
    @calebgalant5284 Год назад +34

    My brother named a strange Dalokohs Bar “Doc Louis’ Chocolate” and a KGB “Giga Mac Gloves”.

    • @BlazingShadowSword
      @BlazingShadowSword 4 месяца назад +5

      "NOOOO! Now you've done it! You won't like Doc when he's angry!"

    • @fojisan2398
      @fojisan2398 4 месяца назад +3

      Punch Out Chad

    • @ianfinrir8724
      @ianfinrir8724 2 месяца назад +1

      "Dodge this one!"

    • @bluevines1303
      @bluevines1303 2 месяца назад

      Your brother is truly a based giga chad

  • @turse8201
    @turse8201 Год назад +152

    For the GRU exploit, you can quickly swap back and forth to the GRU to quickly lower your health pool as swapping to the GRU instantly lowers your HP by 30. That means if you need to fully heal but don't need to run too far away to heal, then you just spam swap to the GRU and then eat the chocolate to get the exploit. This makes it more viable for defense.

    • @cheese3764
      @cheese3764 7 месяцев назад

      Exploit? It's game mechanic!

    • @ker0356
      @ker0356 3 месяца назад

      by 20*

  • @gregorymirabella1423
    @gregorymirabella1423 Год назад +91

    i always thought it would be cool if you could cook the steak after throwing it with fire damage. like you could toss it down, blast it with the hou long, and turn it into a full health box that also works on you.

    • @untipogracioso3038
      @untipogracioso3038 Год назад +10

      Makes sense for me

    • @commentsonly2142
      @commentsonly2142 Год назад +6

      very cool idea, also helps pyro in a support role

    • @amiablereaper
      @amiablereaper Год назад +26

      ​@@commentsonly2142New Pyro subclass: Grillmaster

    • @Green24152
      @Green24152 Год назад +3

      like how you can ignite arrows?

    • @darkness74185
      @darkness74185 11 месяцев назад +3

      make that work handheld as well (ala Huntsman), and if you eat a cooked steak instead of damage vulnerability you get damage resistance instead

  • @ValorZeroAdvent
    @ValorZeroAdvent Год назад +63

    2:45 is comedic gold, the way it was presented was just perfect

    • @fabrix199
      @fabrix199 Год назад +11

      3:15 is better

    • @D-S-G.
      @D-S-G. Год назад +8

      Food poisoning

    • @danolantern6030
      @danolantern6030 Год назад +7

      "hey medic, have this"
      "thank you, kamarad!"
      *one second later*
      "hey medic, how are you-"
      _"AAAAAAAAAAAaaarrghh."_

  • @jumpinghunter9152
    @jumpinghunter9152 Год назад +34

    Despite the fact that sandwich heals up more health for your teammates, i think it's important to mention that both Dalokosh and Banana are way better for extinguishing people, basically you can save a teammate from dying to afterburn 3 times more often than with normal sandwich, and banana is usually still preferred to ve eaten by most heavies instead of veing given to some random burning teammate, while Dalokosh is so inefficient at actually healing the heavy that it's not really hurting him if he give it away, making it best item for fighting against multiple pyros.

  • @awerelia
    @awerelia Год назад +79

    as someone that has eaten the dalokohs bar 245387 times i can definitely say it is a food item

    • @ker0356
      @ker0356 4 месяца назад +5

      bro is that one kid from willy wonka💀

  • @doctorprepologedyedeyadede3542
    @doctorprepologedyedeyadede3542 Год назад +73

    "Sir, can I interest you in some... *chocolate?"*
    "Chocolate? Did you say chocolate?"
    "Yes, sir with or without nuts."
    "CHOCOLATE? CHOCOLATE! CHOOOOOCLAAATE!! CHOOOOOCLAAAAATEE!!!"

    • @davidhong1934
      @davidhong1934 Год назад +1

      I remember when they first invented chocolate
      Sweet, sweet chocolate

    • @EdibleREAL
      @EdibleREAL Год назад +1

      @@davidhong1934Nah it was bitter and spicy like chili pepper covered in mustard.

  • @Mann344
    @Mann344 Год назад +194

    I still think Dalokoh's as a weapon could be better overall, but honestly, the main problem it has is that Second Banana is just too good. Even nerfing the banana's recharge time to what it's listed as (50%, which would be 15 seconds, 10 seconds is 66% faster) helps Dalokoh's out quite a bit. That being said, even despite using both weapons quite often, I genuinely was not aware of the synergy chocolate bar and GRU had, that's actually pretty cool. If Valve ever get along to weapon rebalances sometime down the road, hopefully they don't go after that lol.

    • @jaredschroeder7555
      @jaredschroeder7555 Год назад +15

      I just want it to have a quicker eat animation, that'd be the big qol buff I could think of

    • @owenblount7334
      @owenblount7334 Год назад +4

      It’s more that they nerfed the chocolate instead of fixing an exploit

    • @peika8324
      @peika8324 Год назад +7

      Like if the dalokoh bar eat faster or having 50 hp last longer(a minute won’t be too much to ask) it will be a great side grade.
      It does change faster than banana though

    • @agentoranj5858
      @agentoranj5858 Год назад +1

      @@jaredschroeder7555 Wouldn't the most logical thing be to just increase the Heavy's HP by 50 when it's equipped like how the Gunslinger and Battalion's Backup do for the Engineer and Soldier? It would remove that useful bug but it would also improve QoL substantially.

    • @deathgobbler4774
      @deathgobbler4774 Год назад

      nu-uh, banana overrated. also, bananas are actually worse for your health than tactical, bakers and dark chocolate.

  • @RdTrler
    @RdTrler Год назад +4

    13:25 I can't believe you punched Walter White I'm literally crying right now

  • @gaidencastro9706
    @gaidencastro9706 Год назад +140

    Dark chocolate is actually quite healthy for you. Maybe that's what the Dalokohs bar is made of.

    • @Fumblom
      @Fumblom Год назад

      this comment is proof that america is going to fail

    • @EdibleREAL
      @EdibleREAL Год назад +23

      I hope so because otherwise prognosis is level 4 diabetes

    • @GunSpyEnthusiast
      @GunSpyEnthusiast Год назад +52

      scouts soda is literally made of nuclear waste, do you think that heavy would have a healthy chocolate bar?

    • @TooFewSecrets
      @TooFewSecrets Год назад +53

      @@GunSpyEnthusiast Well Heavy isn't an idiot like Scout so yes.

    • @GunSpyEnthusiast
      @GunSpyEnthusiast Год назад +7

      @@TooFewSecrets scout tells heavy to eat a salad, yet heavy never does so. thus, heavy either doesn't care about healthy food, or is taking salads out of his diet just to spite one brat. both are possible, and both can lead to deliberately not eating dark chocolate, as it is healthy.

  • @swagdoll420
    @swagdoll420 Год назад +221

    The Dalokohs Bar to me kind of just exists. It definitely isn't a bad item, since the buff is pretty decent and has no downsides, but I feel like I have no reason to use it over the Sandvich or Banana since those are just that good.

    • @mrcomp1971
      @mrcomp1971 Год назад +45

      It is my go-to food item actually.
      Other players always underestimate my health pool when they fight me. Because I'm just a lone heavy without a medic.
      You really notice it too if you play with it for a while. Experienced players pick fights with you they could've probably won if you didn't have 50 extra health. It's great!

    • @kaiji4788
      @kaiji4788 Год назад +7

      @@mrcomp1971 Meh. Might be because I always use the Brass beast, but even if it's true, I find it very boring to use
      50 hp isn't much for a Heavy, and while it's always better than nothing, spending 5 seconds doing nothing for a minimal buff that seems to do hardly anything, is boring.
      Sure the 100 hp regeneration is under looked, but it's again, nothing impressive.
      Now the one upside you mentioned, that being the mind game aspect of this "weapon". This would have been a valid tactic in a nerdy tryhard competitive game, but in a casual setting, I find it hardly worthy of any effort being put into practice.

    • @questionablelifechoices7501
      @questionablelifechoices7501 Год назад +20

      ​@@kaiji4788idk man being able to take a full extra pipe from a demoman, an extra shot from a scout, etc is pretty useful in my opinion.

    • @willywillington9252
      @willywillington9252 Год назад +12

      @@kaiji4788 the extra health doesn't do "hardly anything" though. it lets you survive an extra rocket, scattergun meatshot, or grenade, which is a VERY big deal since that can easily be the difference between winning and losing a fight. the problem is that AFTER you win the fight it's harder to heal all that health BACK, but as long as you know where health packs are, or you have a medic to heal you, it's quite useful.

    • @deathgobbler4774
      @deathgobbler4774 Год назад +1

      skill issue.

  • @fireblast133
    @fireblast133 Год назад +29

    2:45 the absolute pain of that moment….

    • @lazyvector
      @lazyvector Год назад +14

      Medic literally died from diabetes so hard he got autobalanced to another team 💀

  • @strange9922
    @strange9922 Год назад +7

    In my opinion, in casual the ranking of lunchbox items is as follows
    1. Banana
    2. Dalokohs
    3. Sandvich
    4. Steak
    The banana is often seen as the solo heavy's lunchbox item, but I would argue in any situation barring comp or being with a dedicated medic in a party, the banana is the best choice for healing both yourself and your teammates. You can have THREE small health packs out and to three teammates in the same time you will have a single sandvich. same goes for dalokohs.
    The dalokohs also allows you to survive three pipes from a demoman, paired with the fists of steel and you make one of the easiest classes to catch off guard and kill one of the hardest because of the higher health and damage reduction, and this is without a medic.
    Dalokohs exceeds when your team has no medic, in fact that's really the only time it's good.
    For comp the ranking is a bit more like
    1. Sandvich
    2. Banana
    3. Steak (Speed boost)
    4. Dalokohs

    • @wynterthesplit9554
      @wynterthesplit9554 4 месяца назад

      For comp it's more like
      1: Steak
      2: Sandwich
      3: The rest
      Speed boost is too good, especially in 6s, when getting a Heavy to mid as fast as a steak + gru could carry him could *just win the mid fight* altogether. A heavy is really good for shutting down an enemies momentum, especially if they're in the air, making heavy great at fending off roamers.
      This why the steak is also banned af in most comp leagues.

  • @selbi182
    @selbi182 Год назад +84

    Holy crap, I never heard of that GRU exploit! This is legitmately one of the most surprising facts I've ever heard about the weapons you cover. Nice job!

    • @mainaccount763
      @mainaccount763 Год назад +1

      Is this sarcastic

    • @selbi182
      @selbi182 Год назад +3

      @@mainaccount763 No, but now that I read my comment back I can see where you're coming from. Woops.

    • @ediodimacaroni
      @ediodimacaroni Год назад +7

      Here's another utility for it. When you are low health you can spam switch the gru, pick up the health pack and then eat the chocolate. This way you can get back a lot of heath

    • @elfascisto6549
      @elfascisto6549 Год назад

      @@ediodimacaroni he should pin this comment if it wasn't a reply

    • @Octoblimp
      @Octoblimp Год назад +1

      surprised you didn't experience the Initial Discovery of the bug that had Heavies spamming it to get 1k+ health

  • @Pudding404
    @Pudding404 Год назад +44

    Dalokohs bar's purpose, I feel, is more of the sidegrade weapons to those who specifically have a pocket. Just removing the 30 seconds you have that health would make it so much more viable. It would be like bonk, niche, but would be so much better at pushes, maybe increase the eating speed, too.

    • @blueyandicy
      @blueyandicy Год назад +6

      Removing it's one upside compared to the banana would make it...more viable?!

    • @TooFewSecrets
      @TooFewSecrets Год назад

      @@blueyandicy He means base +50 health.

    • @GraveUypo
      @GraveUypo Год назад +3

      @@blueyandicy he meant probably eat once have +50 health forever

  • @MrToaster5
    @MrToaster5 Год назад +10

    the dalokohs bar is completely underated and everyone i know besides me hates me for using it, im so glad to know that other people agree

  • @Spyachungus
    @Spyachungus Год назад +44

    COCKLATE BAR WWOOOOOO
    But I think one thing you should’ve mentioned is that it pairs nicely with the brass beast and the Natasha cause the higher hp can make up for your slower rev speed and the 20% damage resistance applys at higher hp making your total effective health 385 allowing you to tank huntsman headshots
    Also there is more synergy with the fists of steel than you think as there’s an exploit where if you eat the dalokas bar then pull out the fists a medic will actually still build at full Uber rate and as long as they don’t break the beam your overhead will still be capped at 390 meaning you can shoot while building Uber faster.
    Meaning if your playing with a pocket the dalokas is still the best option

    • @damgaronfire
      @damgaronfire Год назад

      MMh yummy cocky

    • @Anderson-kg5ex
      @Anderson-kg5ex Год назад +3

      that "exploit" with the Fists of Steel works without the Dalokohs Bar, as long as the Medi Gun can't heal over 142.5% max health (or 85% max overheal) it won't halve its ÜberCharge rate.

    • @tappajaav
      @tappajaav Год назад

      @@damgaronfire Nutrient-dense and tasty

    • @adrunkcaliburn457
      @adrunkcaliburn457 Год назад +1

      You can tank all sniper headshots, the resistance applies while at/below half, OR if a shot would bring you below half.

  • @siggymilfordjigutzpilgrid
    @siggymilfordjigutzpilgrid Год назад +1

    2:45 Throwing a hard metal object with sharp angles towards the direction of the only healer isn’t the brightest idea

  • @claytopolis
    @claytopolis Год назад +14

    I hope the heavy update gives him a breakfast themed item to complete the full lunchbox menu. I had an idea of a piece of toast that is eaten much faster, gives back any missing health as overheal style health, and gives him a speed boost that increases the more health he has missing. The main downside being a significant decrease in weapon damage while its active. It would be made to help the heavy retreat and get proper healing

    • @Emmariscobar
      @Emmariscobar Год назад +7

      I love the mental image of Heavy running around with a piece of toast in his mouth as if he were an anime girl that's late for school.

    • @MK-gb7ht
      @MK-gb7ht Год назад +3

      I want him to have an Ice-Cream Sandvich, which doesn’t heal much, slows you down, and has a lengthy cooldown, but makes you immune to crits and have a great damage resistance.
      The slowdown ailment lasts longer than the immunity, and because it slows down the heavy, it makes him a greater target and makes it harder to use away from the front lines and in retreating.
      As for healing, he doesn’t get that much, in exchange for being basically immortal with a medic.

    • @boomeronet7888
      @boomeronet7888 Год назад

      ​@@MK-gb7htsounds incredibly broken for defending a point

    • @MK-gb7ht
      @MK-gb7ht Год назад

      @@boomeronet7888 it is basically a pseudo ubercharge, but spy can still backstab in one hit, and sniper can still whittle him down very well due to most minigun bullet spread at long range.
      I think I should also add a debuff that he can’t be healed so much during the whole tank thing.
      I wanted this thing to be used for punishing the enemy for allowing a heavy to eat next to a choke point or objective, since heavy can’t move far because the speed debuff (which cannot be negated with GRU). I also want it to be risky to use as the heavy too.
      So new changes:
      -when damage resistance buff active, cannot be targeted or healed by medigun (disallows healing from quick fix and resistance stacking from vaccinator)
      -still vulnerable to backstabs
      If you have any more notes, tell me.

    • @MK-gb7ht
      @MK-gb7ht Год назад

      Maybe add some knockback resistance so a pyro doesn’t just invalidate him from the point?
      Or will having him able to be knocked back away from the point be a good thing?

  • @Legorunner
    @Legorunner Год назад +1

    13:26 holy shit FSOAS killed uncle bane the engie crane

  • @InsightReasoning
    @InsightReasoning Год назад +9

    This item is surprisingly very synergistic with a lot of aspects of the game. Namely any effects that cause healing is suddenly way more appealing, as the biggest source of healing in the game (Medic) is made strong due to the fact that players don’t need to actively take damage to utilize his capability, as abusing Overheal to its maximum potential is paramount to his role on the team. More base HP opens more opportunities to utilize health sources that can’t overheal but usually are harder to time, due to having to be missing Health in the first place. Things like Mad Milk, Concheror, Health kits, Dispensers.. heck, Medic still greatly benefits from it, with the Crusader’s Crossbow, and the Amputator.
    Max HP is a statistic that is handed out incredibly loosely, with most classes having to trade something extremely valuable to gain even a small sliver. This was the reason why the old Pocket Pistol was broken, as Scout basically had 15 Health for the low price of just a slightly worse pistol.
    Heavy gives up the sheer strength of his healing item to gain max health, and even then, only temporarily. The only case remaining in the game that might defy this logic is the battalions backup, with how strong its effect is coupled with 220 Health that lets him walk away from fights with 1 HP way more often. The Kunai is another unique case, but it’s more reasonable given the innate risk.
    It’s also worth noting that the chocolate synergizes with the Vaccinator. More base hp to get Uber off of, and keep their higher heal rate, less overheal doesn’t really matter too much since a Vac medic doesn’t usually fully overheal anyone anyways. It means you’re even more of a nightmare to counter with single damage types.

  • @hcookie4424
    @hcookie4424 Год назад +1

    The best strategy for the dolokahs is using it with the brass beast. The health buff raises the threshold for you to get the brass beast’s damage resistance buff that heavy gets when below half health. This makes you an absolute tank and will give you much more health than your enemies will realize. Choclate+brass beast gives you enough health to WIN A MINIGUN DUEL WITH ANOTHER HEAVY WHEN THEY HAVE A MEDIC AND YOU DON’T. This plays to the brass beasts strongsuits: killing other heavies and their medics, killing sentries and engies, and killing groups of enemies the underestimate you. I seriously think the brass beast is good enough to warrant a “in defense of the brass beast” episode.

  • @techmark3665
    @techmark3665 Год назад +6

    I’m glad someone else is talking about this fun combo

  • @Fallout_Survivor
    @Fallout_Survivor Год назад +2

    In defence of the meat:
    Medieval mode...
    Yes that's pretty much it lol

  • @Astro-NATT
    @Astro-NATT Год назад +9

    This has always been my favorite food item for heavy even though i dont think its very powerful, it just helps with that extra health for being even tankier

    • @deathgobbler4774
      @deathgobbler4774 Год назад

      it's actually op, people just don't realize it. every time I went god-like as heavy was thx to it. also, the banana is overrated.

  • @subtlewhatssubtle
    @subtlewhatssubtle 11 месяцев назад +1

    Suggested Dalokohs bar fix: turn the eating animation into Heavy shoving the whole bar into his mouth in one go, with just a single "NOM" sound effect. Plays in just over a second, making it easier to snack on the go.

    • @littlesailor3337
      @littlesailor3337 11 месяцев назад

      In my opinion I think they should bring back the old feature of food items where you can throw them to yourself for quick health exclusively to this item

  • @milsharkie
    @milsharkie Год назад +4

    Oh hey, who's that sexy scout at 12:46 :D
    Something else to note about the Dalokoh's with the Fists of Steel is that it effectively counteracts the overheal penalty of the Fists of Steel, allowing you to get over 600 effective health with a medic on you while tanking damage with the fists!

    • @CosmicPelt
      @CosmicPelt Год назад +1

      Nice shot.
      Also your art is cool :3

    • @milsharkie
      @milsharkie Год назад

      @@CosmicPelt Ahhh thank you! ♥♥♥

    • @BryantVonMiller
      @BryantVonMiller Год назад +1

      Love the pfp sharkie!

    • @milsharkie
      @milsharkie Год назад

      @@BryantVonMiller Thank you, I drew it myself :>

  • @nickr8662
    @nickr8662 Год назад +1

    Ya know, of course it’s the sniper complaining about the fists of steel

  • @Jessie_Helms
    @Jessie_Helms Год назад +4

    I’ve been stanning the chocolate for years.
    Now, in my video I paired it with the fists of steel, but I regularly use it with the Gru too.
    I wasn’t aware of the health trick you mentioned though!
    The Dalohkohs also is a great Boone for Tomislav users.
    In a heavy VS heavy battle the Tommy’s lower short range DPS is mitigated by having higher HP than the other heavy.
    Also as you mentioned, it breaks many damage thresholds (even more with the fists of steel) and is great for quick fix medics (as a former quick fix medic main myself, I appreciate that).
    It also in general helps your medic gain Uber charge, as you don’t hit over heal for 50 extra HP.

  • @Nickels1.
    @Nickels1. Год назад +1

    IT ALL MAKES SENSE. Ok ok hear me out. With the gloves of running urgently heavy loses health right. That’s him burning off fat which is most of his health. Since chocolate bars are very fattening it gives him back that extra 400 calories he burned off in a instant. Meaning he’s getting his bulk up and his health back.

  • @Verlisify
    @Verlisify Год назад +6

    I love how Fishstick will give a sincere attempt on a bad weapon and will either find its secret/niche OP or totally unviable. Its really cool to see someone really get into the game like how I do with Pokemon

  • @TheQuenchiestCake
    @TheQuenchiestCake 7 месяцев назад +2

    Think it was mentioned in the video, but another thing about the chocolate bar I like is you can be much, much more liberal about sharing with teammates due to the fast recharge rate, incredibly useful if medics are few and far between.

  • @thenamesandounts9807
    @thenamesandounts9807 Год назад +11

    A suprising jump in production value. Well done!

  • @imgood7923
    @imgood7923 Год назад +2

    3:16 that snipe is disrespectful 😭😭😭

  • @GewelReal
    @GewelReal Год назад +4

    idk what chocolate you eat, but a proper, high percentage dark chocolate is actually very healthy

    • @deathgobbler4774
      @deathgobbler4774 Год назад +1

      there's sth like tactical choc, and it's absurdly healthy for you. you can actually survive on it and it lasts way longer than most foods. yes, it's even more time durable than canned food.

  • @FancyDinosaur
    @FancyDinosaur Год назад +1

    This was a great and educational video focused on my favorite secondary for Heavy. As a Heavy main myself, the GRU combod with the chocolate bar was something I was unaware of (I primarily use the KGOB), and can see myself utilizing it in the future. Thanks for making this video!

  • @andreamercatello6977
    @andreamercatello6977 Год назад +11

    I must say that I have always been quite attached of this secondary, having been the first "consumable food" that I obtained and that in the past I used actively, therefore seeing new methods or even simply seeing how to use it better; it fills me with joy, thanks Fish.

  • @ChiefSuperIntendedBacon
    @ChiefSuperIntendedBacon Год назад +2

    I only use the Dalokohs Bar because it make me able to cosplay as Doc Louis.

  • @manunova5929
    @manunova5929 Год назад +28

    I always use the Dalokohs because I don't expect to have a Medic with me.
    That said, other players preferring you to have a sandvich instead is just because they prefer a bigger heal for *themselves*.
    If you can spread heals among multiple people I'd say you have a decent additional source of healing that is more consistent and you can leave the healthpacks so you can run on two cooldowns independent from each other.
    The only direct downside compared to the sandvich is that if you have a Medic pocketing you it will be difficult to keep him healed at crucial times.

    • @davidhong1934
      @davidhong1934 Год назад +6

      It's happened
      We have found the fabled "Sigma Heavy"

    • @dumbvillage9253
      @dumbvillage9253 Год назад

      Honestly, this is the reason why i use it, i usually dont get heals, but for some reason always get them with it.

    • @tappajaav
      @tappajaav Год назад

      Banana.

    • @CAMSLAYER13
      @CAMSLAYER13 Год назад +1

      I feel like I never find any heavys to heal as a medic. Just soldiers and demos that jump away or charge me into the enemy

    • @youplayzz7922
      @youplayzz7922 Год назад

      Banana.

  • @s4mukn1ght35
    @s4mukn1ght35 Год назад +1

    Also, Natascha and brass beast have stats, that youre receiving 20% less damage when your gun is spinning and you have under 50% of your base health. Meaning that if you consume dalokosh bar, the stats counts it from 175, since your base health increased to 350. Thats why Iam running Natascha, dalokosh bar and fists of steel.

  • @jbigs65
    @jbigs65 Год назад +9

    The chocolate bar is my favorite lunchbox item! The HP boost helps out a lot against the explosive classes!

  • @doggo6012
    @doggo6012 Год назад +1

    Seeing you defend this was quite the surprise. A welcome one though.

  • @profilename4800
    @profilename4800 Год назад +4

    I like the synergy between the GRU and the bar, it's like you're running off the downside of the chocolate

  • @frimleyousse2821
    @frimleyousse2821 Год назад

    spamming the gru a couple of time will quickly get your max health to 100, wich is conveniently the ammount that the bar gives, meaning if youre on 1 hp and health source are scarce, you can pull out the gru a few time and get full health with the bar

  • @machimocavo-bo6ps
    @machimocavo-bo6ps Год назад +4

    My first strange quality weapon was the dalokoh's bar, and i bought that willingly.
    I also wanted this video to come out so the price goes up. We will se how it works out

  • @spiderjocky6700
    @spiderjocky6700 Год назад +1

    The dalokohs bar was my first lunch box item I got. out of all of them a chochlate bar....

  • @giacomoromano8842
    @giacomoromano8842 Год назад +3

    If you eat the Bar while using the Brass Beast on defense, you become the ultimate sentry heavy. On that note, the resistances of the Brass Beast triggers on health thresholds, right? Do they trigger on the modified health given by the Bar or do they work always on the normal health?

  • @fabrix199
    @fabrix199 Год назад

    3:15 The sniper stands and signals an ok as if he was going to take a shot with a camera lmao

  • @CJTheExpert
    @CJTheExpert Год назад +5

    I've always been a huge fan of both HP boosting items, the chocolate bar and the battalion's backup. The number of times the extra 50 (or 20) max HP has saved my ass is kind of nutty. Plus, they both have good utility besides! The chocolate is great for topping off HP as you said, and I feel that the buff from the backup is criminally undervalued, even outside of niche situations where it's completely busted (pushing sentries with no medic, giving the middle finger to an enemy kritz medic, etc.).

    • @miguelguedes3411
      @miguelguedes3411 Год назад

      My man, you should watch Zesty Jesus's video on the backup. You'll be pleasantly surprised :)

  • @Jessie_Helms
    @Jessie_Helms Год назад +1

    I frequently end fights with >50 HP as a Dalohkohs Bar Enjoyer.
    People don’t realize how good it is, underestimating the power of 50 extra HP.

  • @Brown95P
    @Brown95P Год назад +8

    The Dalohkos and Steak always needed a faster eating taunt than the Sandvich and Banana; the GRU bug shouldn't account for that.

    • @catke590
      @catke590 Год назад +2

      Yeah, but then the recharge time should also be extended for the Dalohkos. Playing with Heavy's health pool is dangerous

    • @Brown95P
      @Brown95P Год назад +2

      @@catke590
      Y'know what? Provided the eating part is faster, a longer recharge time would actually be fair enough.
      The main problem with the Dalohkos is that you take forever to eat it just to apply a buff that ultimately lasts less than 30 seconds, so half the time that you're alive you're out-of-battle taking your sweet time eating, which makes for an extremely clunky gameplay loop at best.

  • @TheSandwhichman108
    @TheSandwhichman108 Год назад +1

    I usually choose the second banana as my go to secondary as a heavy main. I usually go for the lone traveling heavy play style.

  • @cleveralias8214
    @cleveralias8214 Год назад +8

    I’ve been running the church of chocolate for years now, just the fact that demos need to hit 4 pipes instead of 3 to kill me makes all the difference. Hope to see more people use it, or just more people playing heavy for that matter.

    • @adrunkcaliburn457
      @adrunkcaliburn457 Год назад +1

      Can I join? Dalokohs plus Natasha or beast prevents a full charged sniper while revved.

    • @heroninja1125
      @heroninja1125 Год назад +1

      @@anormalhumanperson7196 to be fair so many classes could be broken if (insert class(s) here) did not exist.

  • @noah-ux2cz
    @noah-ux2cz Год назад

    I've heard this video idea eluded to in streams and such and I've been waiting patiently for it ever since. Glad to see it came to fruition and ended up being so good

    • @noah-ux2cz
      @noah-ux2cz Год назад

      Also there is one downside to the Dalokohs Bar that you didn't mention. And that's that using it too much can result in you randomly dying from type 2 diabetes.

  • @tabdeugo
    @tabdeugo Год назад +3

    The amount of times i was saved by using the dalokohs bar combined with the Brass beast is much more than i was expecting when i started using the loadout .

  • @nobody-cj8il
    @nobody-cj8il Год назад +2

    I like all the lunch box items, the sandwich is if I feel like helping medics, bananas if I’m selfish, the chocolate if I want to be tankier and the steak if I want to be a boxer heavy for fun

  • @pinkius
    @pinkius Год назад +3

    In defense of the Dalokohs bar... _it's tasty._

  • @mlggamer6943
    @mlggamer6943 Год назад +1

    Oh yeah I have been waiting for your video on my favorite Heavy secondary.

  • @thesightthesoundthefeeling8769
    @thesightthesoundthefeeling8769 Год назад +5

    I have been mainlining the Dalokohs bar during all my years in TF2. It's about time someone recognised its true potential.

    • @deathgobbler4774
      @deathgobbler4774 Год назад

      it's 2nd only to the sandvich, and it's not even that far from it. but people think banana is good for you, when it's literally nature's mars bars (or sth like that. very overrated, a lot of sugar, not enough of vitamins, except for proteins and calcium).

    • @Labyrinth6000
      @Labyrinth6000 Год назад +1

      @@deathgobbler4774a potato has more vitamins and minerals than a banana

    • @deathgobbler4774
      @deathgobbler4774 Год назад

      @@Labyrinth6000 straight up. people genuinely believe bananas are healthy only cuz they're fruits.

  • @SentientAnimations
    @SentientAnimations Год назад

    another funny thing about the bug with the GRU is that if you quickly switch too and from the gloves a few times before eating the chocolate, you can actually retain more health with the GRU out. the max ive managed is about 272 health before it stops draining, so if you want a fun new way to play melee heavy, just run at people with over 250 health, much faster than theyll be expecting a heavy to run.

  • @gaidencastro9706
    @gaidencastro9706 7 месяцев назад +4

    One note: Surviving three direct grenade hits, scattergun shots and rocket attacks doesn't matter much when those weapons have a clip size larger than three, and that heavy is a really slow-moving target.

    • @mouthwide0pen
      @mouthwide0pen 5 месяцев назад

      ok but you act like he cant defend himself

    • @FivePebbles-e8s
      @FivePebbles-e8s 5 месяцев назад +1

      Let’s not worry about that

  • @ValdwinCatBoy
    @ValdwinCatBoy Год назад +1

    With my whole load out being cat bases I will always be using the dalokohs bar reskin, the fish cake. I even renamed it breakfast…
    I’m coming for you next FishStick

  • @tophmidnaYT
    @tophmidnaYT Год назад +3

    The Sandvich is like the overachieving older brother of the secondary slot and all it’s siblings live in its gigantic shadow

    • @deathgobbler4774
      @deathgobbler4774 Год назад +1

      and it's not even that the other things are bad, but bcuz they came after it, they will never be as appreciated as it is.

  • @Da_cocobong
    @Da_cocobong Год назад +1

    Dalokohs bar + fists of steel = hilariously tanky payload pusher

  • @uncleshagworthy
    @uncleshagworthy Год назад

    They should make a voice line when an enemy eats your food heavy says “I WILL SNAP YOUR SPINE LIKE TWIG IF YOU DON’T GIVE HEAVY FOOD BACK

  • @itsyourpardner
    @itsyourpardner Год назад +1

    I’m glad that this topic is being brought to light, the dolakoh’s bar has always been a gem in rough. So glad about awareness being spread

  • @edvingjervaldsaeter3659
    @edvingjervaldsaeter3659 Год назад

    I also want to mention an awesome idea I have heard, I don't remember who said it, but it was that heavy's lunchbox items should be a 4th slot item, like how engi and spy has a 4th item slot

  • @grfrjiglstan
    @grfrjiglstan Год назад

    The chocolate bar makes the blood in your arteries so thick, not even Sniper's bullets will stick!

  • @Z0u1Th3Sl0w
    @Z0u1Th3Sl0w Год назад

    To be frank, I always used the Dalokohs Bar paired with the Brass Beast to further enhance the effects of both weapons. Sense a heavy with a 20% damage bonus and 360 effective health is scary. Though that kinda speaks to how tiny the 20% damage resist only kicking in at half health is. For referance, without the Dahlokohs Bar, a Brass Beast Heavy has 330 effective health.
    I just use the Dahlokohs Bar because of my more Death-March playstyle where I charge the enemy with no plan of surviving or unrevving until either side dies.

  • @ProjectSudoku
    @ProjectSudoku 5 месяцев назад +1

    The Dalokohs bar could definitely do with a faster eating animation, if only to give it a more distinct role compared to the Banana.

  • @yourenbytemmieverse
    @yourenbytemmieverse Год назад

    What I like with the dalokahs is surviving 3 quick scopes or one fully charged shot when using the fists of steel

  • @perrequerfelizdtomaskuzma6654
    @perrequerfelizdtomaskuzma6654 Год назад +1

    me when the dalokohs bar is excellent for killing multiple teammates:

  • @OzzyOsbourneFan999
    @OzzyOsbourneFan999 Год назад

    Chocolate is a quick burst of quick and easy energy which is quite fitting for the reason you use the GRU.

  • @cloxurf9603
    @cloxurf9603 Год назад +1

    Daholks bar when medic on fire:

  • @Schmiduku
    @Schmiduku Год назад +2

    God I miss the dalokohs creators server.
    "Play awesomely and be awesome... Yeah..."

  • @Viol3tOni
    @Viol3tOni Год назад +1

    hey look ma i'm on the tv 11:44

  • @teddyking9106
    @teddyking9106 Год назад +1

    The Dalokohs Bar was my first lunchbox item. I got it from an item drop and it showed me that the Sandvich wasn't the only edible item in TF2. It will always have a special place in my heart for that.

  • @AParticularlyPointySoldier
    @AParticularlyPointySoldier Год назад

    One thing I found is that if you are at low health and want to get to full from the chocolate, quickly spin your scroll wheel to swap back and forth from the gru to quickly lower your max health to around 100 which the chocolate will heal fully.

  • @PentaromaLMA0
    @PentaromaLMA0 Год назад +1

    I need more of these "this weapon thats underwhelming is actually very good and heres how" videos

  • @cloxurf9603
    @cloxurf9603 Год назад +1

    100x players when invincible heavy

  • @Mitioritos
    @Mitioritos Год назад

    thank you for this, i honestly spent like a few days last week trying to figure this weapon out in game and failing miserably, but this just makes much more sence then whatever i was trying to do xD

  • @SaxtonGaming1401
    @SaxtonGaming1401 7 месяцев назад +1

    It pairs super well with the Brass Beast and Natascha, having the resistance buff proccing at 175 HP instead of 150 lets you survive tons of situations and allows the Brass Beast to be more viable.