At Middle Ear we had 2 full TX racks. I created thousands of DX/TX patches using Galaxy Editors. We used them on the four Bee Gees albums that I worked on.
@scotteglasel6077 have you made any of those patches available for use by others? How do you make them sound good or mix them in a modern song project?the beegees had great music and I still love their string samples and Orchestra compositions in their songs. How can you not love it? It would be cool to have legendary masters like yourself do hands on videos to teach us how to get our productions up to that level. I subscribed to your channel. I hope to eventually see you make some good to videos. Thank you sir.
Les patches du DX7 sont déjà présents dans Halion 7. Vous pouvez les trouver dans les presets "Layers". Il y a également ceux du TX81Z et de la cartouche VCR-101. ;)
@@jefgibbons I'm a harcore FM sound designer and DX/SY programmer, so I know the sound very well... I have DX7, SY77/99, TG77, TX81Z, and TX802 here in my studio. The Arturia DX is much too CPU heavy, DEXED was ok. But this FM synthesis in H7 is really top league! my FM-heart is beating! ❤
I got Halion 7 as an upgrade from Halion 6. Part of the reason I upgraded was because of the FM Lab. If you already own Halion 6 then £85 for this upgrade is s steal. Until now I was using a free DX7 emulator called Dexed which also comes with thousands of Sysex files with thousands of sounds so I'm sure those should also work with FM Lab.
I was hoping halion 7 would have audio preview of presets..after using that in Komplete kontrol for many years it’s a headache too not have it in other similar programs.
Jeff..., I wouldn't use JMJ and Zoolok as an example for FM synthesys. It is an album famous for use of samplers (voices of mankind in different languages). JMJ mentioned more times that DX7 was a step back because machine was impossible to program and all the owners were sticked to presets. There are many albums of the 80ies that are made totally with DX7, much more representative of that technology
Yep zoolook is a masterclass in sampling not fm..it was done with colboration with Laurie Anderson who at the time was massively into sample manipulation not really fm.
1:13, The Zoolook album by JMJ was better known for the use of the Fairlight (you can even ear some fairlight's factory sounds in it) and even the Melotron than the DXs (however of there're some FM sounds in it, obvioulsy)
I knew there was a good reason I purchased a cut price Absolute 5 in the Black friday sales - I get a free grace period upgrade to Absolute 6 which includes Halion 7 :-)
@jefgibbons indeed! I've spent the last few months wondering whether it had been a wise decision to purchase a VST collection that still required a dongle, lol
It sounds beautiful.But how do you mix it to make it sound so good?and why is Halion 7 a good buy if you have uvi falcon or kontakt?is it just another $300 spent on a vst instrument?
Great video, back to my old DX7 days, and since I sold it, I think this will be a purchase for me! Moving forward in time, tho, do you know of any mpe implementation in Halion 7 either now or as a future update?
Thanks for another great video, Jef! Huge fan of Ray Lynch too…his music had such an influence on me! Had to upgrade to Halton Sonic 7 to get the two new synths. They sound so good!
JMJ didn't use the dx7 (much) on the zoolook album at all. He mostly used the fairlight cmi on that album (prominently). and his usual synths (ems vcs3 e.g.)
Jeff what do you think Maschine Software 3.0 .MP3 support .SF2 support audio tracks unlimited, stem separation. What NI should do is bring back their whole line of Maschine products like they had in the past this is why Akai is winning or is ahead of the game. Maschine studio Plus give it dual flip up touch screens (nice to have that option but still have all the buttons as usual) where you can flip up the screens individually or one long screen that flips up like on their S series controllers, 8 outs 2 xlr combo inputs with 48v phantom power for condenser mics 4 1/4 inch inputs, phono inputs, CV outs 8. Stem separation, full intergration of certain Komplete and Isotope instruments, with sound design capabilities, all the things the current Maschine has, MP3 support .SF2 support, 10 audio tracks, vocal suite, internal HDD front SD card slot, 4 midi puts 2 midi inputs, 16gb Ram. Maschine Plus MK2 1XLR combo mic input, phono in, put 4 1/4 out puts, 2 1/4 inputs, HDD, Battery option, 8 audio tracks, 8GB Ram. 4CV gate outs , Flip up screen touch. 2midi ins 2midi outs, .MP3 .SF2 Maschine MK4 every output, and input of the Maschine Plus MK 2 1XLR combo mic input phono input 4CV gate outs, Unlimited audio tracks because it tethered to computer. SD card slot Maschine Mikro plus 2ins 2outs, mic input, 1 midi in 1 midi out, phono input, SD card slot (Just a thought) or just regular mikro with 2ins 2outs 1mic input phono input. Maschine Jam Plus Truely a live stand alone live performance instrument 2 XLR mic inputs 48v phantom power, 4 1/4 inputs 4 1/4 outputs HDD, Battery option, 8 audio tracks, 8gb Ram, phono input, cross fader that actually let you scratch incoming audio .wav .mp3 file. oh yes don't forget the screens. Reply
I had thought Halion 6 had FM but it doesn't, it did have "FM like presets" for its sample and wavetable zones. DEXED is a free SysEx compatible DX7 clone vst for folks who wanna get their FM on for free. I own a physical DX7-2D synth and it has a higher quality DAC than the old DX7 mk1 units, and has less (but not zero) noise. Some of the character of the physical synth is its flaws and its lofi nature. You can dial the lofi into these digital recreations and get a very credible 90s lofi FM sound.
would've been cool if they carried on from the SY99/77 and made is a 2023 AFM/RCM synth/sampler. an 8op FMX with modern polyphony, sample memory, LFO routing, and effects, it would be the monster AFM/RCM synth/sampler all yamaha fans have been begging for
Jef your amazing, I never miss a video. But I just got the preview for the TETRIS movie in the middle of the your vid and... holy cow 😆. I gotta see it lol.
I have never thought about how to pronounce Halion. I also have never thought about how to pronounce Yamaha - until I heard you say it! 🤔 Anyway, love your vids!
thanks for a very informative video. Looks like a very worth while update as GUI has been the worst for many years. Guess I will be quite a ways off on getting it as I have Halion thru Absolute 5 collection
Absolute 6 was launched at the same time as HALion 7. It's Absolute 5 plus HALion 7. The upgrade price for Absolute 5 to Absolute 6 is the same as upgrading a standalone license for HALion 6 to HALion 7. Absolute 6 uses Steinberg Licensing.
You know what:? When I think of a Virtual Workstation this product comes to mind first and foremost: HALion! Yes, Vengeance VPS Avenger is also a workstation, nost just a synth, but it's more limited and harder to see. That's why when people ask what the difference is between Nexus and Avenger, I point them to HALion to explain why Avenger is a workstation and Nexus is a rompler. Although the latter is the best example of Virtual Rompler: Nexus. Well, it was. Nexus has got synthesis in it now. But simply said Nexus is still a rompler.
Would love to see if someone could realise AI Quantize feature! Because this Quantize options we have now in our DAW's just sucks! It's so big waste of time to Quantize nowadays! PS. Halion: good update! Resynthesis is very interesting! Would love to see phisical modeling of sax and trumpets
Hey Wooloomooloo! There are just too many samplers. I use Logic sampler(s) but have Kontakt, Serato, TAL, Momentum, Koala.... sheesh! It's overwhelming.
You call it "a mess" and say that's how you write. I call it poetry lol. It's honest is what it is. And it's the thing that makes collaboration so beautiful. I write basically the same way. Even for lyrics on the notepad and strumming on guitar. It's kind of a Mashup of the maschine workflow inside the daw. Its ideas ideas ideas until...whoa! I got a idea!💡 Lol
@@jefgibbons Thanks so much for the response. I love the new features in Halion but if it gives me a headache looking at tiny little buttons I won't end up using it very much. I love the upgrades they did to Groove Agent and consequently end of using it in almost every session. I also use Backbone a lot. I really wish Steinberg would build some new instruments and synths from the ground up with fresh UIs instead of cramming more buttons into tiny little postage stamp UIs (Padshop). Especially on a 5k monitor. That being said I love Cubase and have used it for years and years. Cubase 12 was the best update they've had in years with finally overhauling generic midi remotes. And I can't live without the sampler track now. Fantastic! The VST Instruments is where Cubase really lacks now I think.
Good video. Body missing and VST is too thin. If they don't emulate the non-linearity, noise and the awesome round but fully satisfying punch of the real DX7, they don't even come close for me. It's 2023 and FM VST exists for decades now. It's a great disappointment that those companies still only emulate the tone but muss completely to emulate analog behavoir, depths and great low end.
HALion 7 is insanely complicated to use. It's not intuitive at all and 95% of clicks don't do anything I expected or hoped for them to do. Isn't making music supposed to be fun? Steinberg really should improve their software, and make better tutorials as well!
Hey Jeff do you use any gear like effects pedals like zoia? Or other grooveboxes like octatrack or deluge? Would love to see some of your in depth tutorials on hardware gear if you are into this sort of thing. Keep the great content going!
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It's an awesome upgrade. The new FM engine couldn't get better. Thanks for the video, Jef!
Most welcome!
At Middle Ear we had 2 full TX racks. I created thousands of DX/TX patches using Galaxy Editors. We used them on the four Bee Gees albums that I worked on.
This sounds amazing! I’d love to hear more about those days! Just found you on history of recording… anywhere else I should look for more info??
Wow!!!!
Thank you for this info!
@scotteglasel6077 have you made any of those patches available for use by others? How do you make them sound good or mix them in a modern song project?the beegees had great music and I still love their string samples and Orchestra compositions in their songs. How can you not love it? It would be cool to have legendary masters like yourself do hands on videos to teach us how to get our productions up to that level. I subscribed to your channel. I hope to eventually see you make some good to videos. Thank you sir.
Les patches du DX7 sont déjà présents dans Halion 7. Vous pouvez les trouver dans les presets "Layers". Il y a également ceux du TX81Z et de la cartouche VCR-101. ;)
Great presentation Jeff.
Thanks!
You made it :))))) Buying update NOW!!!! Thank you
Best FM = Halion 7 ! Luv it.
absolutely great job Yamaha+Steinberg - sounds very close to DX/SY!
I was pretty impressed with it! And even more impressed with the patch designing in FM Lab. Tons of usable patches in there!
@@jefgibbons
I'm a harcore FM sound designer and DX/SY programmer, so I know the sound very well... I have DX7, SY77/99, TG77, TX81Z, and TX802 here in my studio.
The Arturia DX is much too CPU heavy, DEXED was ok. But this FM synthesis in H7 is really top league! my FM-heart is beating! ❤
@@Byron101_ Have you tried OPS7? It's $25 on Black Friday
@@Byron101_ You'd be an authority on it for sure, thanks for the comparison thoughts!
I got Halion 7 as an upgrade from Halion 6. Part of the reason I upgraded was because of the FM Lab.
If you already own Halion 6 then £85 for this upgrade is s steal. Until now I was using a free DX7 emulator
called Dexed which also comes with thousands of Sysex files with thousands of sounds so I'm sure those
should also work with FM Lab.
I think so too, haven’t tried it but it should…
I was hoping halion 7 would have audio preview of presets..after using that in Komplete kontrol for many years it’s a headache too not have it in other similar programs.
I would love that also…
Been saying that for a while, more producers need to chime in...
Jeff..., I wouldn't use JMJ and Zoolok as an example for FM synthesys. It is an album famous for use of samplers (voices of mankind in different languages). JMJ mentioned more times that DX7 was a step back because machine was impossible to program and all the owners were sticked to presets. There are many albums of the 80ies that are made totally with DX7, much more representative of that technology
Which one do you suggest?
@@kallpakk Full discography of Level 42, Mike Lindup is a wizard of DX7
Yep zoolook is a masterclass in sampling not fm..it was done with colboration with Laurie Anderson who at the time was massively into sample manipulation not really fm.
I mentioned another… did you catch that?
@@jefgibbons No.
1:13, The Zoolook album by JMJ was better known for the use of the Fairlight (you can even ear some fairlight's factory sounds in it) and even the Melotron than the DXs (however of there're some FM sounds in it, obvioulsy)
I've been corrected already by the JMJ police ;) I did mention the Ray Lynch album, so hopefully that will appease!
If that leads to people to discover this great album, how lucky they are ! But yes, JMJ and DX7 is a thing that just doesn’t exist
Just upgraded today. Can’t wait to dive into this
you've got another customer in me, thanks!
I knew there was a good reason I purchased a cut price Absolute 5 in the Black friday sales - I get a free grace period upgrade to Absolute 6 which includes Halion 7 :-)
Oh nice!! That’s huge!
@jefgibbons indeed! I've spent the last few months wondering whether it had been a wise decision to purchase a VST collection that still required a dongle, lol
It sounds beautiful.But how do you mix it to make it sound so good?and why is Halion 7 a good buy if you have uvi falcon or kontakt?is it just another $300 spent on a vst instrument?
thanks for the shift star tip !!
Great video, back to my old DX7 days, and since I sold it, I think this will be a purchase for me! Moving forward in time, tho, do you know of any mpe implementation in Halion 7 either now or as a future update?
I like this HAL 9000.....I may have to purchase this.
So were the DX patches for the Halion 7, Or the actual DX7 Keyboard???
They were literally for the DX7! That's what's so cool here!
Oh snap. I’m upgrading today
Cool Demo Jef - would love to see more video's on Halion 7 from ya !
I'll keep it on the pile of vids to do, thanks!
Great stuff Jef! I'd love a video dedicated to the FM parameters.
Great stuff as usual! By the way, can you or anybody on the channel suggest tutorials like these for the Akai MpC?
Thanks for another great video, Jef! Huge fan of Ray Lynch too…his music had such an influence on me! Had to upgrade to Halton Sonic 7 to get the two new synths. They sound so good!
Glad you're digging them, thanks Bright!
top presentation Jeff! 😄
Appreciate it Byron!
Hi Jeff, please can you tell me what's your big Monitor is? Is it a TV?😮
Of course I want to see that in the future 10:37!
Took me right back to my old SY77. Ahhh...the "good" ol' days! LOL Great job demo'ing, Jef!
Thanks Jay! I keep seeing the SY77 pop up, gonna buy one one day!
JMJ didn't use the dx7 (much) on the zoolook album at all. He mostly used the fairlight cmi on that album (prominently). and his usual synths (ems vcs3 e.g.)
WOW! I had the DX7 and it sounded so cold and sterile. I traded it for a Juno 2 and never could have been happier!!
The two compliment each other perfectly.
What screen/TV are you using - seems that it has low input lag and decent refresh rate
It’s a Samsung from Costco, nothing special! I have a video on it in the description….
Enjoy it
I Wonder If You Can Import DX100 Patches For Talkbox Thanks For The Video
I find most presets not usable in my case.. i do like some libraries from Steinberg
@jefgibbons apologies if this is an ignorant question. Is it possible to use Halion 7 without having Cubase? In another DAW?
Not ignorant at all... but as the other commenter said, it is usable anywhere!
Jeff what do you think
Maschine Software 3.0 .MP3 support .SF2 support audio tracks unlimited, stem separation.
What NI should do is bring back their whole line of Maschine products like they had in the past this is why Akai is winning or is ahead of the game.
Maschine studio Plus give it dual flip up touch screens (nice to have that option but still have all the buttons as usual) where you can flip up the screens individually or one long screen that flips up like on their S series controllers, 8 outs 2 xlr combo inputs with 48v phantom power for condenser mics 4 1/4 inch inputs, phono inputs, CV outs 8. Stem separation, full intergration of certain Komplete and Isotope instruments, with sound design capabilities, all the things the current Maschine has, MP3 support .SF2 support, 10 audio tracks, vocal suite, internal HDD front SD card slot, 4 midi puts 2 midi inputs, 16gb Ram.
Maschine Plus MK2 1XLR combo mic input, phono in, put 4 1/4 out puts, 2 1/4 inputs, HDD, Battery option, 8 audio tracks, 8GB Ram. 4CV gate outs , Flip up screen touch. 2midi ins 2midi outs, .MP3 .SF2
Maschine MK4 every output, and input of the Maschine Plus MK 2 1XLR combo mic input phono input 4CV gate outs, Unlimited audio tracks because it tethered to computer. SD card slot
Maschine Mikro plus 2ins 2outs, mic input, 1 midi in 1 midi out, phono input, SD card slot (Just a thought) or just regular mikro with 2ins 2outs 1mic input phono input.
Maschine Jam Plus Truely a live stand alone live performance instrument 2 XLR mic inputs 48v phantom power, 4 1/4 inputs 4 1/4 outputs HDD, Battery option, 8 audio tracks, 8gb Ram, phono input, cross fader that actually let you scratch incoming audio .wav .mp3 file. oh yes don't forget the screens.
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Oh man… they should hire you! You need to post this over at the forums! I’m loving your list…
well done jef!! please a tutorial for matrix!!! greetings from greece
I had thought Halion 6 had FM but it doesn't, it did have "FM like presets" for its sample and wavetable zones.
DEXED is a free SysEx compatible DX7 clone vst for folks who wanna get their FM on for free.
I own a physical DX7-2D synth and it has a higher quality DAC than the old DX7 mk1 units, and has less (but not zero) noise. Some of the character of the physical synth is its flaws and its lofi nature. You can dial the lofi into these digital recreations and get a very credible 90s lofi FM sound.
Best H7 video so far
Thanks Eric!
Ahhhhh finally! Thanks Jef great review as always.
Most welcome!
great studio
would've been cool if they carried on from the SY99/77 and made is a 2023 AFM/RCM synth/sampler. an 8op FMX with modern polyphony, sample memory, LFO routing, and effects, it would be the monster AFM/RCM synth/sampler all yamaha fans have been begging for
Whats that white midi you are using called?
Jef your amazing, I never miss a video. But I just got the preview for the TETRIS movie in the middle of the your vid and... holy cow 😆. I gotta see it lol.
Ha! I have RUclips premium, no ads… gonna look up the Tetris trailer now!
Oh that looks amazing… can’t wait to watch it. Just throw the Final Countdown into any trailer=awesome sauce!!!
@@jefgibbons lol yeah I'd be interested to know just how many time it been licensed to the film/TV industry. Hundreds, thousands, or tens-of? 🤔
What controller is that?
The Halion versions lack lots of bass compared to the original dx7 which have more body.
I have never thought about how to pronounce Halion. I also have never thought about how to pronounce Yamaha - until I heard you say it! 🤔 Anyway, love your vids!
Ha! Thanks!
thanks for a very informative video. Looks like a very worth while update as GUI has been the worst for many years. Guess I will be quite a ways off on getting it as I have Halion thru Absolute 5 collection
Absolute 6 was launched at the same time as HALion 7. It's Absolute 5 plus HALion 7.
The upgrade price for Absolute 5 to Absolute 6 is the same as upgrading a standalone license for HALion 6 to HALion 7. Absolute 6 uses Steinberg Licensing.
Great video!
Thanks John!
When i saw Halion 7 i was excited but then my mac 10.14 2009 Mac Pro so am stuck with halon 6
You know what:? When I think of a Virtual Workstation this product comes to mind first and foremost: HALion!
Yes, Vengeance VPS Avenger is also a workstation, nost just a synth, but it's more limited and harder to see.
That's why when people ask what the difference is between Nexus and Avenger, I point them to HALion to explain why Avenger is a workstation and Nexus is a rompler.
Although the latter is the best example of Virtual Rompler: Nexus. Well, it was. Nexus has got synthesis in it now. But simply said Nexus is still a rompler.
OMG that metronome sound took me straight back to 1990 and Cubase on Atari
No NKS integration?
Not yet... I would love that!
Great video and anyone who is a fan of Jean-Michel Jarre is a friend of mine (We have great taste in electronic music, what can I say? LOL) :)
Would love to see if someone could realise AI Quantize feature! Because this Quantize options we have now in our DAW's just sucks! It's so big waste of time to Quantize nowadays!
PS. Halion: good update! Resynthesis is very interesting! Would love to see phisical modeling of sax and trumpets
Hey Wooloomooloo! There are just too many samplers. I use Logic sampler(s) but have Kontakt, Serato, TAL, Momentum, Koala.... sheesh! It's overwhelming.
Spoiled for choice!!
You call it "a mess" and say that's how you write. I call it poetry lol. It's honest is what it is. And it's the thing that makes collaboration so beautiful. I write basically the same way. Even for lyrics on the notepad and strumming on guitar. It's kind of a Mashup of the maschine workflow inside the daw. Its ideas ideas ideas until...whoa! I got a idea!💡
Lol
Yes!! Thanks Eric!
Jeff can’t it load fm8 patches?I have a ton for fm8
I’m not sure! I’d be surprised if it did…
How big is your monitor?
Check the description, whole vid on it!
Let me ask you~ What's your Speaker name?
Is the UI scalable? Thanks.
Not yet... first thing I looked for when I opened it!
@@jefgibbons Thanks so much for the response. I love the new features in Halion but if it gives me a headache looking at tiny little buttons I won't end up using it very much. I love the upgrades they did to Groove Agent and consequently end of using it in almost every session. I also use Backbone a lot. I really wish Steinberg would build some new instruments and synths from the ground up with fresh UIs instead of cramming more buttons into tiny little postage stamp UIs (Padshop). Especially on a 5k monitor. That being said I love Cubase and have used it for years and years. Cubase 12 was the best update they've had in years with finally overhauling generic midi remotes. And I can't live without the sampler track now. Fantastic! The VST Instruments is where Cubase really lacks now I think.
8 operators!! I hope they put this in Halion sonic 4
@World Watcher Is Halion sonic 7 availiable now? I have not got an email from Steinberg.
Makes you wonder why they didn’t add noise simulation to the oscillators.
use any of 12bit DAC VST simulator
Yeahmaha
Have you tried FM7?
Good video. Body missing and VST is too thin. If they don't emulate the non-linearity, noise and the awesome round but fully satisfying punch of the real DX7, they don't even come close for me. It's 2023 and FM VST exists for decades now. It's a great disappointment that those companies still only emulate the tone but muss completely to emulate analog behavoir, depths and great low end.
Try OPS7, that's the ultimate DX7 emulation.
Why am I discovering retrospect recording just now??? So many lost ideas across the years 😭😭😭
Why would I ever buy a product from a company that has zero customer service and I can't even get the free version to work
DX7 original win..... the sound is very fat....
HALion 7 is insanely complicated to use. It's not intuitive at all and 95% of clicks don't do anything I expected or hoped for them to do. Isn't making music supposed to be fun? Steinberg really should improve their software, and make better tutorials as well!
Hey Jeff do you use any gear like effects pedals like zoia? Or other grooveboxes like octatrack or deluge? Would love to see some of your in depth tutorials on hardware gear if you are into this sort of thing. Keep the great content going!
I keep meaning to branch into it... one of these days!
@@jefgibbons that would be awesome