Coleman CT200U-EX goes 60 MPH with a predator 212
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Coleman CT200U-EX goes 60 MPH with a predator 212
Installed a Predator 212 with a straight chain on the Coleman CC200U-EX minibike.
Did a top-speed run to see the results of the swap?
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Cool Video Keep Them Coming
Thanks !
A wise man once said, before you make a minibike go three times as fast, make sure it's brakes stop you 4 times as good.
Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. Have front and rear disk brake conversion.
Exactly. Way too scary at an older age. I don't heal as fast.
@Black66 you should paint it and replace the light with a skull and convert the storage into a gas tank and put luggage racks on it and handgaurds and new grips custom pegs and finally that's all I have to say
@Shotifyz I tried doing some of them but not to long ago I left my bike out at my freinds all weiner it still runs but we were gonna fix the exhaust cause it broke off I fixed it today but now I just need to fix the pull start get a new exhaust and I'm gold
I wouldn’t doubt if he just has 5 212 predators mounted together for his car engine.😂
Hmmmm...great idea!!!
That’s funny
No,when u first get it already dose 30mph
You're a braver man than me. On my lightly modified RB200 @ 45 mph I'm cringing about doing that on Chinese bearings.
What modifications did you do to it? I'm thinking of buying one and would like to get it up to some speeds like that
@@scottcolbern2224 Governor delete, vented crank case, billet rod, CM Super X grind .265 cam, flat top piston, .010 headgasket, 22 lb valve springs with .060 shims, champion rockers, Chikuni 24mm flat slide carb.
@@scottcolbern2224 oh and a PVL aluminum flywheel.
@@rcinful Bro, can you send me a detailed list of the parts and where you got them? My brother did a converter but it only tops 30, I'm trying to get at least 40-45.
My predator 212 that I took the governor off and got a modified carburetor goes 70😭
Awesome videos. I am 60 and I still like these minibikes. Big changes in speed though since the Tecumseh 3.5 that I had from Sears.
I know you've done torque converter comparisons before. I would love to see the comp on this bike. However, I really like the simplicity of the straight chain, and it seemed like it has enough power to drive around in normal traffic. In my town, we are allowed to ride on all the streets (except main street) with our minibikes and ATVs. If we get a safety inspection pass, then we can go on main street also. I want to get this same bike new, make it like yours, and put blinkers, mirrors, front brake, and street tires, so I can cruise town and go anywhere I like. I love this channel! It's like minibike school and so fun. Ride that beast!
Thanks, man! I am happy you like the channel. I have fun making the videos. Ya, I think a straight-chain would work really good on one of these bikes with a 60 sprocket on the back versus the 50 that's on there.
It is really cool you can ride all over town legally.
@@Black66 love your videos of these Coleman’s. Can you do another video explaining the difference in straight chain vs torque converter and 40 -60 sprocket ?
@@bt4b4 I'll get back around to working with the big bikes again.
That’s awesome what state are you from
That still had more in it!!!! I have the same set up brand new bike and motor just not the cam n things which is coming!! Still so amazing what these little motors can do!! Thanks for ur vids much learned!👍🏾
Thanks!!
60 on a mini bike is absolutely outrageous 😂
Check out the 80 MPH mini video ruclips.net/video/zbn2shqOuaQ/видео.html
I have a stage 4 predator on a drift trike and always thought about building another engine and put it on a mini bike...great build..
Thanks! I really like this combo
My first bike was a mini with a Tecumseh motor...gas was .35 cents an imperial gallon! Broke a ring and scored the piston and cylinder...that was the end of that. 50 years later...still breaking motorcycles lol
Man I wish I was good with my hands like this
Your videos are very informative and educational, could you do some uphill test so we can see more of what the torque is like on straight chain setups
Thanks! Ya, I have been wanting to do some off road stuff . I’ll have to do that .
Dan it's garbage on straight chain no power at all I've got a predator 212cc removed the revlimiter out of the motor and added a performance muffler and a torque unit and it's fast at 60mph and has lots of climbing power
@@Black66 OMBWAREHOUSE THEY WILL HAVE ALL THE PARTS YOU NEED
60 mph on that mini bike . You gotta be nuts to go that fast
Check out this bike. It went over 70 MPH ruclips.net/video/xV8i59aGUao/видео.html
I'm doing this right now to my bt200x coleman can't wait to try it out once it's done
It's gonna be a rocket ship!
I put a built and dyno'd 16 hp ducar motor on my minibike, which is only slightly bigger than your Coleman c100 (it's an old 60s Montgomery). And the thing hits 60 on the dot with a straight chain within a couple seconds. The thing is a total death trap and I love it hahah
Awesome!
How tight should my chain be
Bro you just saved me a ton of time dude. I just got a Chikuni and I haven't been able to figure out how to load it. Smfh
Glad I could help
Damn Good Video. Build Em N Ship Them. I Hav3 500-700$ $ bucks Rn for something like that that’s the most I can budget in with all the other stuff I have.
Thanks!
Great Video! 👍 and easy to understand 👌. thanks
Bro that thing is moving good
Not sure I really want to go quite that fast. FYI I made a springer seat for my CT200UEX . Much more comfortable. Hinges at front and springs on rear. I will be using info from your other video to tune my carb properly. Thanks again.
Just built an engine just like that can't wait to get it on my bike
Dude! You are like Burt Munro. You're gonna have to get that thing to the Salt Flats to really open her up!
Thanks! Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. We got it to run faster ruclips.net/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/видео.html
BEAST MODE ACTIVATED!!!!!!!!!!!!GoDSPeeD
Yes!
I really appreciate this video and you telling me about this engine ✊
Awesome 💪🏾
Im impressed
Thanks!
Just...DAMN!
I have two of these bikes and I'm buying a 3rd, they are just so fun
They are fun bikes! Stock or modified, they are all fun. Check out the video coming out on Saturday with the CT200U-EX. Thanks for watching!
@@Black66 I plan on watching all of your videos you make very informative videos and I plan on subscribing the hurricane just hit in Florida and we have nothing to do but Moder bikes me and my son found your Channel
@@Black66 do you happen to have a video that explains how far you can push these bikes before they break or what mods need to be done if you make a certain mod thanks
I've watched a few vids, he builds the engines but sticks with a centrifugal clutch. A TC does a lot to boost the acceleration without losing top end. Even a stock 212 with a TC is better imo then a mild mod 212 with a centrifugal clutch. I suppose one could argue that a centrifugal clutch is fine for the street. Offroad, you definitely want a TC.
Check out the mega Moto and Coleman playlists for many bikes with a torque converter. ruclips.net/video/i-aHzA_lQIE/видео.html
Sweet!
Can you put links to the parts you use on your bike??? This would be super helpful. Good work keep it up!!!!
Great video man you commented back on one of my comments super fast got another sub! Keep up the good videos and you will be a hit one day on RUclips
Thanks! Maybe, but if not that's ok too. It's fun doing the videos.
Hey I’m young and my dad just bought one of these I’m planning on working on it. What’s the first thing I should buy to increase speed but also not be a gas guzzler. Thanks
I’m building one because of you
Ah sweet! Your gonna love that bike!
Woooohooohooooo brother this is insane 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 . Love your videos man i wish to see more. Merry xmas to you and family mate .
Just tell me if we could import that engine to mauritius island and how much it would cost please
Thanks! lol
Hey man can you make a bike dedicated to wheelies? Wanting to know the best setup and bike for em.
I've gotten 59mph out of a 196cc, no governor and rear sprocket change 👍 cool video man
The engine that came on it?
Wow!! What was ur set up?
Straight chain? Or jackshaft?
@@cesarcabanillas9333 its was with a jackshaft at that time
@@robertlitchford4218 man that’s awesome I have header pipe, intake, non regulated clone carb, and governor taken out and I’m only pushing 35 on my top speed did the rear sprocket change make that much of a difference for you?
☺60 mph. Mucho gooooood
Until you fall off....😳
Great video!!!!
Thanks! Check out the CT200O-EX playlist ruclips.net/video/Up6TpJiopEo/видео.html
If you would reduce the sprocket on the back wheel by 10 or 12 teeth you will definitely do 75 miles an hour but you will need a long distance to get there
Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. I have used a 40 sprocket on a few different combos. ruclips.net/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/видео.html
What size sprocket is on the front and rear?
Great video brother
Thanks! Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many more combos with this bike. ruclips.net/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/видео.html
That was awesome! Do you think the 196cc engine that comes with this bike could be made to do something close to that performance? What part of the bike was rattling when you go over bumps (fenders, kickstand, other)?
Check out my other videos with the 196cc. Ya, the fenders where rattling
Why a gx160 head? I have a gx160 me and my buddy just ungoverned and threw on a mega moto 80 frame i had and i was looking for ways to make it go faster and more torque. Other then governor removal, cheap intake carb kit, new clutch and #35 chain its all stock. It seems to have a ton of compression it's incredibly hard to pull but usually starts first pull.
Hey Man U did any clearance for the cam and stuff ? Or it all jus fit in
The 265 cam dropped right in.
Non hemi wont need any clearance with a 265, the hemi is hit and miss
Got the same mini bike for free and put a cr125 engine on it it’s a monster now
Hey bro! I love your videos and you seem very knowledgeable. Could I ask for some help? I just recently got into mini bikes, I wasn’t allowed to have “dangerous things” like this growing up so I’m not sure of some things. If I change from the stock engine to a predator 212 will the jack shaft plate work? Also will I need a new clutch? What clutch, if so, would you suggest!? Thank you in advance
Yes, the plate will work. You need a 3/4 shaft #41/420/40 chain clutch. Something like this www.gopowersports.com/10t-3-4-bore-centrifugal-clutch-41-420/
If you get a predator 212cc motor to put on it get a torque unit and a performance muffler remove the Governor from the motor and it'll top out at 60 mph fast and fun
I have a Coleman bt, with a predator 224, and torque converter, it goes scary fast.
AWesome!! We have some with the 224. Check out the playlist on the channel. ruclips.net/video/2GxryXDUkt8/видео.html
That was impressive. But bet that was scary on them stock nobby tires. That would really fly with some street rubber. I have the same bike. And i know those tires hate the street 🤣 my brother never rode one of these. Jumped on mine went flying down the street,and couldn't make the corner 🤣 ended up going straight through someone's yard🤣🤣
That is awesome! sounds like you guys have fun with your bikes. Ya, some street tires would be a good upgrade for the street for sure.
You was out.Great job.
Appreciate the good vid! Hey, was it a straight chain set up? 😅
Thanks! Yes, it was a straight chain. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. There have been many different combos on this bike. ruclips.net/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/видео.html
@Whoop!
Black66, I think I saw recently where you put a hub on a ct200uex that will allow you to change the sprocket without pulling the axle every time too switch sprockets, what was that hub❓ pls. advise. Thank you. ✌🏻
Maybe this was the video you are talking about? ruclips.net/video/JIHHuNigHy4/видео.html
@@Black66 yes this is the one thank you, will it fit a ct200uex or is it different? Where can I find one.? Thank you.
If I did this to mine I would go to jail
Then you need to leave where you live. It’s called tyranny
did you ever do a video with the predator 212 with a torque converter installed?
Yes, check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many combos with this bike ruclips.net/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/видео.html
Take the twist gas throttle off and use a break lever on your bikes you get more full throttle than the twist kind ..Or use a thumb throttle your choice but i like the break lever on my bikes I even replace on my scooters too .
For the break lever throttle you can even use one finger ...
Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many combos on this bike ruclips.net/video/eHax9KYC0xo/видео.html
Use a bicycle break lever for your gas throttle this is what I meant ...
It's one of the lightest frame out there. I'm sure that helps
Yes, it does. Check out my other bike that makes easy work of the CT200U-EX ruclips.net/video/o0UliTSSwWc/видео.html
i swear you have to live in nevada because i recognize that neighborhood
You now have a torque converter and it'll pop a wheelie change your rear sprocket and you'll get your top speed that you want
Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many videos with a torque converter and different engine combos. ruclips.net/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/видео.html
Fantastic videos. Question if I mount DuroMax XP18HP 440cc. Which you think will be the speed on it. And do you think it’s good engine. Do you think will fit COLEMAN CT200U
Thanks, Ya, I think it will fit. With all that torque you should be able to put a high gear on it.
I got 55 out of the ducar but was running the 10/53 and I got a few extra pounds got my 228 Tillotson apart tapping the block way to much crank case pressure at 9k rpm so much it blew my rear oil plug out on some test hits
I put a 60t sprocket on the back with the straight chain cuz I wanted to see if that would give me my torque back and for the most part it did, I still have a 10t on the front but I have a 12t just waiting to be put on lol
I have a video coming out with the 60 sprocket! It is a rocket ship!
@@Black66 awesome I can’t wait! Subscribed!!
Got rid of my stock motor wonder what my Tilliston stage one would do with a straight chain
It’s quick but not too quick and it flys😂
Check out this one ruclips.net/video/Up6TpJiopEo/видео.html
But make sure your throttles turned up and your engine is turned up too so it can go that fast
What clutch do you recommend using with the predator 212 when straight chain? Thanks
This is a good one for the #40/41/420 chain www.amazon.com/Bravex-Centrifugal-Clutch-Tooth-Chain/dp/B07HFXHNNY/ref=sr_1_14?crid=2084QFKAMRAQA&keywords=mini+bike+clutch+for+predator+212&qid=1649971577&sprefix=minibike+clutch%2Caps%2C314&sr=8-14
Nice, I wonder how it would do with a torque converter. Maybe on your next video?
Ya, ill have to add one
I'd guess it'll lose like 5 mph
Probably be a little slower but have much better accel
I have the same bike with the stock 212 and torque converter. Mine tops out at 42. The low end pick up is really nice though.
@UC4CbpFrWUBBXSuUcEDthhzg have a Baja warrior we did a bone stock ducar with tav 30 it runs 49 with 10/50 set up they work great we upgraded the front to a 12 and it's now doing 56 at 5100 rpm
So what are the bearings on those rated at I can imagine they're not for that speed I'm just curious if you've upgraded them or not
Stock bearings
Keep them greased lubed up
Did you built the predator 212 yourself or did you buy one like that.
Yes check out the playlist for the entire build on this bike and many others. ruclips.net/video/ZTC1ZAkuNdk/видео.html
I have the worst time trying to find a 12 or 15 tooth #40 clutch please tell me where I can get one. 👍🏻🤙🏻✌🏻 A friend Brad.
Links for the parts are in the description of the video. Thanks for watching!
I’m trying to talk myself out of buying this exact same bike, but this isn’t helping.
This should help. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist . lol ruclips.net/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/видео.html
What about a predator v twin 22hp motor?? 🤔
I just ordered the mini bike. Can i get an EXACT parts list on what you have in yours?
Was this the normal predator 212cc 6.5 hp or was this the ghost version?
This is a normal Predator. Check out the playlist for more combos on this bike. ruclips.net/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/видео.html
Better to straight chain mine or torque converter swap vs originally jockey clutch
Faster than the torch converter kit?
can you make my 2023 honda ruckus go 60
I have the same bike with a mikuni and header my best speed is 35 mph what do you do different ❓
Is the Coleman mini bike like you got automatic
10t on the clutch, and 50t on the rear wheel ... how tall are the tires?
And, how often do you oil the clutch bearing? Thank you Professor Black66!
I oil it every other ride or so . I hate getting out there and the bushing runs dry.
@@Black66 ... I figured it must be routine ... you're testing its limits too ... but don't think I've seen you lube it, yet. Did you ever experiment with different spring weights? Thanks - you make great video.
Put that new ghost motor on it made by preditor its also a 212cc but a straight racing motor
I Have Ghost videos coming out on a different bike. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many different engines and combos on this bike and others. ruclips.net/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/видео.html
@@Black66 i would like to see what it would do on that bike tho i bet that thing would fly you would at least hit 80 mph no problem
Great video. What do you use to get GPS speed and overlay on video?
Thanks! I use a dragy performance meter for 0 to 30 and digiHUD on the phone for top speed. Camera GoPro software for the overlay, Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for more combos on this bike. ruclips.net/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/видео.html
I have the exact same bike I wanna buy the 212 tomorrow at harbor freight what else (piping) did you buy
What’s the gear ratio on that mini I’m trying to decide on a good #40 chain ratio to run for my mm80 build I was thinking 10-40 it’s just a degoverned 212 with a header pipe vm22 carb billet flywheel and 18lb springs I’ve only ever ran #35 chains and not to sure about what gearing I should try first
I noticed you put to washers on before clutch. What size were those? Did you put the stock chains together? Or buy a new chain? And what length of chain do I need for it? Sorry for all the questions.
They are 3/4 washers. It is stock chain spliced together. If you Use a chain breaker and you can splice any length you need.
Are you able to sell the motor that you made because I don’t know how to build it?
How are the brakes holding up with the increase in speed?
Surprisingly ok, but then again I'm using a lot of road to slow down. It wouldn't hurt to upgrade to a disc or something
Do you recommend using the straight chain or no ?
Depends on what your doing with the bike IMO. If you are a light weight rider and only want speed it's ok but you should use a bigger sprocket to be easier on the clutch. If you are using the bike for trailing or hills or are heavier I would use the TAV for sure.
Does the GX160 head make a difference then having a stock predator head?
Ya, the GX160 14cc chamber bumps the compression. It makes it snappier for sure. If you are going to start modifying the engine the 212 head might flow better unless you port the 160 head. Here is an old video I did when I added the head. ruclips.net/video/Xh0om5moxB0/видео.html
@@Black66 awesome! Thanks for the reply!
Would the straight chain be ok with hills and dirt also is this a hemi or a non hemi
No, a straight chain is good for highway use but doesn't work well on hills. This build is a non-hemi. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many combos with this bike. ruclips.net/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/видео.html
I want it sooo bad!! 😂
I didn't know you can have the clutch wheel face in to have the chain line up
Straight chain doesn't line up like the jack shaft does.
@@Black66 I tried it last night but I think I have a few extra links to take off cause once I flipped the teeth facing the motor the chain popped off can't have to much slack in the chain I'm assuming
did you have to do anything else to the motor or was it stock
Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. We have had many different engine combos on this bike. ruclips.net/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/видео.html
@@Black66 ok thanks
Did you look at used 200 (+-) cc engines from the Big Four?
What mini. Bikes shouldn't I buy
As many as possible! 😃👍👍
Did you remove the governor gear inside the engine?
Yes. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. This bike has had many different engines and combos. ruclips.net/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/видео.html
I’m putting together a bike for cruising, I was curious what size back sprocket you used I didn’t see it in the description.
I have used many different combos on this bike. I think in this video I was using the 50 rear sprocket. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for more combos. Thanks for watching! ruclips.net/video/X0SmAZJ6qW8/видео.html
@@Black66 gotcha thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I’ve been watching all your videos for ideas lol. I got 2 of the Ct200u-ex’s , the one I’m going to put a straight chain with a predator ghost engine and the other I’m putting together a slightly built predator 212 hemi for it. Really excited to see how they compare on the CT200U-Exs.
Do you plug the valve cover breather? I’d rather do that then run a catch can. I was told it can contaminate your oil faster, but if you do frequent oil changes does it matter? What did you plug it with?? Love the vids 👍🏻
It doesn't throw oil . I left it open off of the valve cover.
Can I have a link to that exhaust pipe you put on the 212?
The links for the parts used are in the description of the videos. Thanks !
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I’m put a 459 cc Engine in my ct200 u what u think the top speed would be?
The 459 has more torque but not more RPM so if you gear it high enough it could have a good top speed.