Thanks, Benjo. I've been using Virtual desktop for the past 3 months, but i always find, for me personally, latency issues. I've just downloaded the Steam link and played kayak Vr on my 4080 laptop and put it in cinematic mode with 90hz and it's under 8ms. I am amazed. All thanks to you. 🎉😁
@@Tomjones12345 Yes good point. I hadn't noticed it in the games I tried so far (that was the awesome part) but then I tried Hitman VR and the ffr was pretty extreme. But I assume Valve will keep improving on this.
I tried Steamlink yesterday and for the first time I was able to run NMS in enhanced mode and it was super smooth. I will still use VD for playing flat screen games on my Quest 3 as Iove the giant screen and being able to clearly see my keyboard in pass through.
Congrats on the win Benjo, I would say its well deserved as you have given yourself a very unique and worthwhile viewing style filled with good chat and common sense. Please keep this formula and do not start to get gimmicky. Be yourself, dont try to grow 'too quick' and I am sure you will continue to have success over the coming years.
Congrats. Your award is well deserved. I tested Steam Link with No Man's Sky and the image looked bad, the quality was closer to the Potato mode from Virtual Desktop. I tried to increase the Steam resolution to 150% and it didn't help much and it tanked the FPS and it wasn't using any reprojection. Then I tested with Virtual Desktop on High settings and it looks beautiful with steady 72 FPS using the SSW (Spacewarp). So Virtual Desktop is the winner for me. I prefer the best possible image quality and I don't mind the barely noticeable reprojection. It seems that Steam Link is designed to give you real FPS at the expense of image resolution with zero reprojection, while Virtual Desktop is designed for the best possible image quality/resolution at the expense of lower FPS+reprojection. I'll continue using Virtual Desktop, and I hope this adds extra fire to Guy Godin's motivation to improve Virtual Desktop even further.
My 3060 is horrid just in the menu part.... So you're saying run it through VR Desktop....?? I wanna play Half Life but I don't think my Rig will run it... I'm linked in and all... But haven't purchased any stream VR titles
@@MrParis215 I think your 3060 is too weak for No Man's Sky. I have a 3070 GPU (~50% better than 3060 according to userbenchmark), and I can barely run it on High at 72 FPS with reprojection, your GPU might run it on Potato mode with very bad graphics or medium with a lot of reprojection. I've heard that Half Life Alyx is well optimized so you might be able to play it without issues, but probably on medium.
@@MrParis215You also need to make sure that your PC is connected to the router with an ethernet cable, your router is 5G, and you're playing close to the router. You should see +1000mbps speed in the Virtual Desktop's welcome screen on the Quest.
Could you do a video that benchmarks the performance you get in Steam Link vs Virtual Desktop? So many impressions and videos within the community just simply state that 'it feels good, but not as good as Virtual Desktop', or vice versa, or 'I don't feel the latency at all', but that's really vague.
I used VD for Steam VR and there is definetly a noticable improvement for me. I had here and there some microfreezes while playing steam games. This has been gone with Steam Link. The only thing thats not working anymore is Beat Saber over the Steam Link Connection. Its stuck on the Next up screen and nothing happens.
You get a major, massive boost with VD using VDXR, which in a simple form, emulates Oculus and allows you to run games without even needing Oculus or SteamVR open. Otherwise, it will be near identical to running SteamVR thru VD itself, or Link.
Congratulations again Ben! You definitely earned that win! Thank you for this video. When you have more time, can you do an in depth comparison of VD and Steam.
I was testing Half Life Alyx with Steam Link and it was pretty nice, but I had a few random visual floor glitches (black voids) while walking around. Seamed mostly smooth, but a few micro stutters here and there... it's pretty good already and I'm sure it'll only get better!
So glad this has come to VR, iv used steam link on my Samsung TV for a long time now to stream from my main pc to downstairs so me and my wee boy can play games togeather. Never had any problems with airlink in the past but this will be so much better and can't wait to get my pc VR Games up and running through this.
Tried this with red dead redemption 2 and works flawlessly. If Steam can just add a SBS mode into this we could pair with reshades VR shader , I would be so happy.
Congratulations! For future reference, you can buy McFlurry's and store them in the freezer. So when you celebrate more awards, you can do so without ever leaving the house.
Congrats on your VR Content Creator of the Year award! I am so stoked on this new app. The airlink never worked well for me but this app makes it playable . I am glad I didn't waste my money on Virtual desktop... Keep making the great vids.. Cheers.
Congrats! I was watching on Jay's livestream and actually predicted you for it before it started. Well earned. Also I think I'll stick to VD just because Guy Godin is a legend who will literally handle a lot of support issues himself
Congratz on VR Content Creator of the year and so well deserved. The valve steam vr wireless for me 0 till 2% haptics only in beatsaber and synthriders . Still testing others. I stick with virtual desktop or just link cable
Valve seems to have a good handle on writing quality software. It seems that Alan Wake may be a bit heavy to render and stream simultaneously, especially at a high resolution. Maybe it's possible to have a better experience by dropping the resolution a bit?
I made the mistake of buying most of my games on Oculus before they became Meta and forgot that PC exists. My Rift never worked very well with Steam on my old PC. This might be a good reason to re-visit Steam VR as it seems nobody has called Meta to tell them PC still exists, or maybe somebody called and they got the Meta customer service bot. 🤷
Weird. I just gave it a crack on the Quest 2 and didn't notice a drop in edge to edge clarity in comparison to VD or Airlink. I only checked out Tetris Effect though.
@@tobiasmyers3505 I really looked for aggressive foveated rendering after seeing it mentioned in videos by Tyriel Wood and Blunty. Still don't really see it. After using Steam Link longer I have had other issues though. After using it I have to restart steam before it will detect my PC. It won't allow me to set the encoded video size above 1024 (just resets to 1024). If I manually increase the per-eye render resolution to 100% instead of auto and don't move my head, I start getting weird contrasting spiral patterns outside of a central rectangle. This was in everything from Compound through to VRchat, Pavlov and Into The Radius. Still needs some work.
It seems to work pretty well for most games, but I did encounter a few problems. FS2020 loads in the flatscreen version of the game, and even when you try to turn on VR in the settings, it says there's no VR headset connected. No Man's Sky was working until I tried changing the graphics settings and then I got a popup saying Steam Link disconnected from my PC, and when I checked my monitor No Man's Sky was still running, so I know the game didn't crash, Steam Link just did. I'm sure it'll get better, but it's clearly got a few bugs that need to be worked out.
I experience an issue with it. I could not open game menus, it keeped bringing the steam overlay. so cant change game options in most games that uses the 3 bars button as ''start'' buton. congrats for your VR Content creator of the year !! you deserve it.
I tried out a Quest 3, I was not expecting it to be much better than the Quest 2. I was wrong, the Quest 2 has issues with halo from white text on black or Grey backgrounds. The resolution of the quest 2 is actually pretty good If you can push all of it but the lenses the blur the small sweet spot it's a problem
We need native, wired to PC, mouse and keyboard support with Quest 3 pass-through enabled ability. The ability to simple use the Quest as a large screen with low latency and our USB gsming mice and keyboards in flat screen competitive games at 120hz. You'd think that would be natively supported but it isn't. To Meta, PC compatibility is a lazy afterthought. We're lucky they even have to basic link options now.
Congrats on your award, well deserved:) and thank you for checking out all the various methods of wireless PC VR on Quest 2/3. On that point: I wonder what you think of the D-Link VR Air Bridge… seems like a alternative way of playing wireless VR when you don’t have a good networking infrastructure at home. Anyway, keep up the great content!
I totally missed Steamlink launch and just gave it a try now and made a comparison with Airlink(Q2) in RE2 (DLSS Quality) in exactly same resolution and honestly there is no competition. Airlink is noticeably sharper and also brighter for some reason. Overall entire image looks better and game runs better due to FOV tangent multiplier that can be applied in Airlink. I have prescription lenses and with 85% I don't lose any image from visible field. Link sharpening on Quality preset make a huge difference when using DLSS as the normal preset makes upscalling more aparent. Steamlink sharpening is similar to Normal preset in link. Maxing out Bitrate and encode resolution in Steamlink didn't seem to make much of a difference.
This video is misleading. You present it like this is your first launch but it is not. On the first launch you need to link your PC and for that you need to jump out a VR and enter a code on your PC. In my case there was some glitch in that process and after entering the code and returning to VR I needed to do it again. And in your case SteamVR is already running when you connect to the PC making the time to start playing much lower. In my case the Steam Link managed to run Steam VR, but could not connect to it. It just does not work.
It would be good if Virtual desktop added frame generation to flat screen games like Guy has for VR. Maybe no there is competition it will be something he thinks of. Either way AMD is going to bring that out soon anyway. Well done for the award again fella 👍
I decided to subscribe... You presented this so simply I just had to play a bit of Alyx myself... Blown away with the wireless performance! Thank you good sir! (Q3)
non steam vr games run alright, you can just add them to the steam library. What im missing in steam link is the super resolution from Virtual desktop, it just looks much better with it
Do you find the Quest Pro controllers great for using on a Quest 2/3? Are they better than the Quest 2/3 controllers? I'm glad you won VR Creator of the Year! I've been watching your VR content throughout the year and often share your videos with friends.
I've got the pro controllers and personally I love them. There are pros and cons for both controllers. I think I'm in the minority here but I personally don't like the quest 3 controllers so pro controllers were a must for me.
It's strange how the capture from the headset seems to almost place the camera on your forehead lol. Cause you're clearly looking forward, but to us it's like you're constantly staring at the top of the big virtual screen. Is that something you can adjust?
steam link, literally solved my problem with wirless pcvr, i had 2.5ghz wifi and pc with ethernet cable, it wont work with oculus airlink or virtual desktop, but with steam link it just works perfectly, no delay, weird view glitching or lag, no cable anymore before i had some problems with disconecting every long period but after an update steam just show a message and reconecting automatically again afer 3 seconds and it happends even less, and thats solved it basically, now i can play pcvr wirless with no delay using a 2.5 wifi, it dont disconect and just works... it just come up and make pcvr much better i dint use the metrics thing for seeing the ms yet but testing with my own view and comparing with my pc, it has no visible delay, and feels fine when playing, its amazing, is not blurry also idk what kind of magic is this or maybe the others methods are just bad in stability prob if i had a much better wifi virtual desktop can give better resolution mode but i dont see my steam link having a bad resolution tho comparing to cable link i was playing contractors showdown and i can see the ppl at a vry long range without using any scope u can add any vr game u have locally to steamvr btw now i had 2 months using steam link almost since its launch, i barely use oculus link cable now, for some pcvr games that are just for seat for flat screen pc games on my quest i use immersed it conects wirlessly, and really fast, looks good and give up to 5 screens, even virtual ones using steam link or virtual desktop for that i imagine it vry messy idk
Wireless has its limits, Quest 3's XR2 USBC controller might be crap but its still double the bandwidth of what you will get from a 6e wireless connection. Whenever i run wireless i have to crank the refresh and supersampling down to prevent tearing
I have been playing Alan Wake and had the same stutter issue you saw. Even though it was running at 200 FPS on my desktop. If I enable v-sync in AW game settings, the issue goes away and it's very smooth in the headset
I just wanted to point out a few things, the big one is yes, you can play any games outside of steam on steam link and steam VR. You add them via the non steam game method on the computer and they should have a tab in steam VR to go to them. As well you can get out of the "home" area to just a black screen for more immersion with flat games and that might help the steaming of more demanding flat games. You can as well change the encoder type, bit rate and most everything else. A lot of good things with steam link. Only thing I know or at least I have about with virtual desktop that steam for sure it doesn't have the ability is to be able to attach the flat screen game to your view and allow head tracking to move the screen around with you.
CONGRATULATIONS MATE! Well deserved. Always informative, witty, charming , relatable and down-to-earth! Thank you for being and keeping Real BB! Love to ya bruv!
Steam Link has a serious issue that makes it look absolutely TERRIBLE. To start, its an very easy setup, pretty much instant connection, but they have implemented a blurry filter at the bottom of field of view. Its incredibly irritating blurry filter makes VR impossible to enjoy, and increasing per eye resolution, doesn't fix it either. I get no such issues with either AirLink or Virtual Desktop.
Q4 probably won't make an appearance until late 2025 or mid 2026, I actually think 2025 is probably too ambitious so more like '26. Quest 3 will give you plenty of value until then OR keep an eye out for the potential Quest Pro 2 later this year (rumoured)
I never used virtual desktop but as someone who comes from air link I like steam link more, It feels less laggy and in a game like blade in sorcery I get this graphical glitch I called texture stretching but steam link gets rid of it, I haven't tried beat saber for a more faster type game cause I broke mine but other games I've played steam link is awesome
Hello Beardo! Could you test Bigscreen Beyond in games with vr mods? I'm going to choose this VR headset next year and I can't wait. I wonder what 1440p games will look like in these VR glasses and at what cost.
Congrats on the win, well deserved, although I reckon a wolf in vr is better..... (Only kidding you're all great ). Any hooo Nice one sir, keep up the great work. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
The biggest problem will be that AVP comes without any controllers which means that literally none of SteamVR games will work (out of the box that is). But in the VR community are many tinkerers that e.g. managed to combine Index controllers with Quests so maybe they'll find a way for AVP as well. But on the other hand Apple is known for not allowing sideloading on most of their platforms and locking down access to deeper systems so that can be an even bigger hurdle.
I personally found that i got a worse experience using steam link vr than i do using the standard airlink setup. I had some stuttering and image quality would degrade occasionally compared to airlink where its very solid and consistent. Worth noting as well that when using steam link to stream games to my TV i also have similar issues whereas an app like Moonlight is flawless.
One massive downside on the steamvr link is, that it is only sharp in the center of the view. around the border it gets really blurry. And sharpness around the borders is actually a selling point of the quest 3 and its pancake lenses.
Steam link yes you need to force the foveal stuff to 1536 and it is way softer than questlink and especially VD. I DO like all the sharpening options of VD and even Oculus debug tool has link sharpening that works a little, steam link is NOT as crisp as the other 2... How can you not see that
I added revive to steam and did some asguards wrath and stormland. they seemed to play okay. think my set up VD still ran it a bit better. more testing needed
I’m new at this . Tried to play HL alyx using steam link/vr setup was very easy but the game keep lagging when I walk, hand and head movement no issues . I tried changing settings and add some commands to the game at steam side. Nothing help! Now I’m playing using virtual desktop. No issues at all. All smooth! Barely any setup.
Steam link blurs the edges.. it only gives you a clear focus point in the center... Where as VD is clear all around. Though I'm not connected to it with Ethernet.. I'm doing all of this wireless both PC and quest.
I've had the opposite experience. Air Link has been great but VD and Steam Link have been useless. Too much latency to play Beat Saber, and that's most of my time in VR
Only problem i got is i cant get the game audio on my headset. Tried adjusting like 20 settings allready. Switching between oculus sound device and steam streaming audio. Nothing works
Interesting video. I have a quest 3 I was going to get a laptop and use it with Virtual desktop but nobody ever mentions whether or not the Laptop has to say whether it is VR ready or not. Does Virtual desktop work with any decent graphics card.
Hello, I would like to get some advice from you guys. Currently, I'm building a PC with RTX 3090 ti, i9 12900k, 32gb Ram DDR5, how would it perform in PCVR with most of the recent released titles on Quest 3? After I am done with building my pc, I've thought about buying the Quest 3, this would be the first time I'm jumping into VR. What I'm looking to buy is the Quest 3 128 GB as I would like to use the Quest 3 mainly to play games that I am buying through Steam. I've done some research and tried to find out if it worth it buying a link cable and play games with a wired connection, or wirelessly through virtual desktop. I do not own any Wifi 6 routers and my PC is not wired to the router, as I am always using it through Wi-Fi. Would I be able to play games wirelessly without any issues with those internet speeds on wifi? Download 126.2 Mb/s, Upload 97.1 Mb/s, Ping 13ms, Jitter 0.8ms Also, I would like to mention that I am looking to play games where I have to move a lot like Arizona Sunshine 2, Blade & Sorcery and so on. Would you guys recommend me using a link cable or virtual desktop? Any advice helps, thank you!
Congrats on your VR Content Creator of the Year award! Your reviews are always entertaining and informative. Keep up the great work!
Your GPU is probably struggling to simultaneously render both the Steam home environment and resource-intensive game like Alan Wake.
Thanks, Benjo. I've been using Virtual desktop for the past 3 months, but i always find, for me personally, latency issues. I've just downloaded the Steam link and played kayak Vr on my 4080 laptop and put it in cinematic mode with 90hz and it's under 8ms. I am amazed. All thanks to you. 🎉😁
It's freaking fantastic to have Steam Link on the Quest. Installing took 3 minutes, works awesome :)
i have a question. Does it work better than using quest link?
It works good, but I wouldn't call it awesome yet. The foveated rendering is too aggressive with no option to change it.
@@Tomjones12345 Yes good point. I hadn't noticed it in the games I tried so far (that was the awesome part) but then I tried Hitman VR and the ffr was pretty extreme. But I assume Valve will keep improving on this.
so is less laggy with movements? Like in ghosts of tabor?
The latency is really good for flat screen games too! The foveated rendering on quest pro brings that latency even lower.
I tried Steamlink yesterday and for the first time I was able to run NMS in enhanced mode and it was super smooth. I will still use VD for playing flat screen games on my Quest 3 as Iove the giant screen and being able to clearly see my keyboard in pass through.
You play flat screen games with a vr headset on? Wtf
@@milky7550 I have a laptop so the big screen using Quest 3 is awesome.
I also watch Netflix. I get great value out of my Quest 3 😆
@@splitenz1770 that’s sad man, you legit where it no matter what u do
@@milky7550how's that sad?
Congrats on the win Benjo, I would say its well deserved as you have given yourself a very unique and worthwhile viewing style filled with good chat and common sense. Please keep this formula and do not start to get gimmicky. Be yourself, dont try to grow 'too quick' and I am sure you will continue to have success over the coming years.
Congrats. Your award is well deserved.
I tested Steam Link with No Man's Sky and the image looked bad, the quality was closer to the Potato mode from Virtual Desktop. I tried to increase the Steam resolution to 150% and it didn't help much and it tanked the FPS and it wasn't using any reprojection. Then I tested with Virtual Desktop on High settings and it looks beautiful with steady 72 FPS using the SSW (Spacewarp).
So Virtual Desktop is the winner for me. I prefer the best possible image quality and I don't mind the barely noticeable reprojection. It seems that Steam Link is designed to give you real FPS at the expense of image resolution with zero reprojection, while Virtual Desktop is designed for the best possible image quality/resolution at the expense of lower FPS+reprojection.
I'll continue using Virtual Desktop, and I hope this adds extra fire to Guy Godin's motivation to improve Virtual Desktop even further.
Same here.
My 3060 is horrid just in the menu part.... So you're saying run it through VR Desktop....?? I wanna play Half Life but I don't think my Rig will run it... I'm linked in and all... But haven't purchased any stream VR titles
@@MrParis215 I think your 3060 is too weak for No Man's Sky. I have a 3070 GPU (~50% better than 3060 according to userbenchmark), and I can barely run it on High at 72 FPS with reprojection, your GPU might run it on Potato mode with very bad graphics or medium with a lot of reprojection.
I've heard that Half Life Alyx is well optimized so you might be able to play it without issues, but probably on medium.
@@MrParis215You also need to make sure that your PC is connected to the router with an ethernet cable, your router is 5G, and you're playing close to the router. You should see +1000mbps speed in the Virtual Desktop's welcome screen on the Quest.
Congratulations! Voted for you and glad you got the recognition you deserve!
Could you do a video that benchmarks the performance you get in Steam Link vs Virtual Desktop? So many impressions and videos within the community just simply state that 'it feels good, but not as good as Virtual Desktop', or vice versa, or 'I don't feel the latency at all', but that's really vague.
I used VD for Steam VR and there is definetly a noticable improvement for me. I had here and there some microfreezes while playing steam games. This has been gone with Steam Link. The only thing thats not working anymore is Beat Saber over the Steam Link Connection. Its stuck on the Next up screen and nothing happens.
You get a major, massive boost with VD using VDXR, which in a simple form, emulates Oculus and allows you to run games without even needing Oculus or SteamVR open. Otherwise, it will be near identical to running SteamVR thru VD itself, or Link.
Congratulations again Ben! You definitely earned that win! Thank you for this video. When you have more time, can you do an in depth comparison of VD and Steam.
I was testing Half Life Alyx with Steam Link and it was pretty nice, but I had a few random visual floor glitches (black voids) while walking around. Seamed mostly smooth, but a few micro stutters here and there... it's pretty good already and I'm sure it'll only get better!
Did you find any "float" to your hands?
@@sYd6point7 in the steam vr void I had really smooth tracking of my Q3 controllers
So glad this has come to VR, iv used steam link on my Samsung TV for a long time now to stream from my main pc to downstairs so me and my wee boy can play games togeather. Never had any problems with airlink in the past but this will be so much better and can't wait to get my pc VR Games up and running through this.
I tried Breachers and it was laggy. Never had any issues before. Congratulations by the way!
Tried this with red dead redemption 2 and works flawlessly. If Steam can just add a SBS mode into this we could pair with reshades VR shader , I would be so happy.
Congratulations!
For future reference, you can buy McFlurry's and store them in the freezer. So when you celebrate more awards, you can do so without ever leaving the house.
literally just purchaced VD 4 days ago. Oh well having options is always handy.
Congrats on your VR Content Creator of the Year award! I am so stoked on this new app. The airlink never worked well for me but this app makes it playable . I am glad I didn't waste my money on Virtual desktop... Keep making the great vids.. Cheers.
Gonna download this now, cheers for the info Benjo
Perfect timing. I was just thinking of trying steam link and your video popped up. Thanks for the demo.
Does steam link run on your pc or your headset? Like do you need a good pc?
Congrats! I was watching on Jay's livestream and actually predicted you for it before it started. Well earned. Also I think I'll stick to VD just because Guy Godin is a legend who will literally handle a lot of support issues himself
Congratulations on the award 🎉. Well deserved, you definitely inspired me to jump into VR.
Congratulations on your award mate, I've been enjoying your content for years.
Congrats on the award. Well deserved.
I tried the Steam Link and i get an "Unavailable" message. Oh well, hopefully it comes back for us!.
Congratz on VR Content Creator of the year and so well deserved. The valve steam vr wireless for me 0 till 2% haptics only in beatsaber and synthriders . Still testing others. I stick with virtual desktop or just link cable
Valve seems to have a good handle on writing quality software.
It seems that Alan Wake may be a bit heavy to render and stream simultaneously, especially at a high resolution. Maybe it's possible to have a better experience by dropping the resolution a bit?
I would disable Steam Home also .. performance hog👍
@@dabuski1 Exactly! Basically, it's like running two games at once
@@dabuski1 Exactly. I have been into VR since day one, Steam VR Home is notoriously HEAVY...
I made the mistake of buying most of my games on Oculus before they became Meta and forgot that PC exists. My Rift never worked very well with Steam on my old PC. This might be a good reason to re-visit Steam VR as it seems nobody has called Meta to tell them PC still exists, or maybe somebody called and they got the Meta customer service bot. 🤷
I'm hoping this will solve my issue because Airlink doesn't work at all for me, and Virtual Desktop gets terrible stutter every 5-10 minutes.
That’s the issue I always have. I’m gonna buy a cord if steamlink doesn’t fix
Well deserved and congratulations!
The best person won the award. Well deserved. Thank you for the time you put in to your videos. Your my favorite hands down. Congrats 🎉
Congratulations on your well deserved award! You are the best, my friend.
Steam Link seems to have INSANE amounts of foveated encoding. Makes the Quest 3 look super blurry outside of direct center. Any comment on that?
Weird. I just gave it a crack on the Quest 2 and didn't notice a drop in edge to edge clarity in comparison to VD or Airlink. I only checked out Tetris Effect though.
There is a setting you can change to fix this. Open app menu, Vr settings, Steam link & increase the Encoded Video Size
@@Joric78 You won't notice as much on fresnel lens headsets, which is 90%+ of what's out there, so it makes sense that it is default as it will help.
@@tobiasmyers3505 I really looked for aggressive foveated rendering after seeing it mentioned in videos by Tyriel Wood and Blunty. Still don't really see it.
After using Steam Link longer I have had other issues though. After using it I have to restart steam before it will detect my PC. It won't allow me to set the encoded video size above 1024 (just resets to 1024). If I manually increase the per-eye render resolution to 100% instead of auto and don't move my head, I start getting weird contrasting spiral patterns outside of a central rectangle. This was in everything from Compound through to VRchat, Pavlov and Into The Radius.
Still needs some work.
It seems to work pretty well for most games, but I did encounter a few problems. FS2020 loads in the flatscreen version of the game, and even when you try to turn on VR in the settings, it says there's no VR headset connected. No Man's Sky was working until I tried changing the graphics settings and then I got a popup saying Steam Link disconnected from my PC, and when I checked my monitor No Man's Sky was still running, so I know the game didn't crash, Steam Link just did. I'm sure it'll get better, but it's clearly got a few bugs that need to be worked out.
I experience an issue with it. I could not open game menus, it keeped bringing the steam overlay. so cant change game options in most games that uses the 3 bars button as ''start'' buton.
congrats for your VR Content creator of the year !! you deserve it.
I tried out a Quest 3, I was not expecting it to be much better than the Quest 2. I was wrong, the Quest 2 has issues with halo from white text on black or Grey backgrounds. The resolution of the quest 2 is actually pretty good If you can push all of it but the lenses the blur the small sweet spot it's a problem
We need native, wired to PC, mouse and keyboard support with Quest 3 pass-through enabled ability. The ability to simple use the Quest as a large screen with low latency and our USB gsming mice and keyboards in flat screen competitive games at 120hz. You'd think that would be natively supported but it isn't. To Meta, PC compatibility is a lazy afterthought. We're lucky they even have to basic link options now.
Congrats on your award, well deserved:) and thank you for checking out all the various methods of wireless PC VR on Quest 2/3. On that point: I wonder what you think of the D-Link VR Air Bridge… seems like a alternative way of playing wireless VR when you don’t have a good networking infrastructure at home. Anyway, keep up the great content!
I totally missed Steamlink launch and just gave it a try now and made a comparison with Airlink(Q2) in RE2 (DLSS Quality) in exactly same resolution and honestly there is no competition. Airlink is noticeably sharper and also brighter for some reason. Overall entire image looks better and game runs better due to FOV tangent multiplier that can be applied in Airlink. I have prescription lenses and with 85% I don't lose any image from visible field. Link sharpening on Quality preset make a huge difference when using DLSS as the normal preset makes upscalling more aparent. Steamlink sharpening is similar to Normal preset in link. Maxing out Bitrate and encode resolution in Steamlink didn't seem to make much of a difference.
So glad I finally decided to get a Quest 2 on the Black Friday sales. Really liking the Steam Link stuff.
This video is misleading. You present it like this is your first launch but it is not.
On the first launch you need to link your PC and for that you need to jump out a VR and enter a code on your PC. In my case there was some glitch in that process and after entering the code and returning to VR I needed to do it again. And in your case SteamVR is already running when you connect to the PC making the time to start playing much lower.
In my case the Steam Link managed to run Steam VR, but could not connect to it. It just does not work.
you deserve it Beardo, you are really good at this!
It would be good if Virtual desktop added frame generation to flat screen games like Guy has for VR. Maybe no there is competition it will be something he thinks of. Either way AMD is going to bring that out soon anyway. Well done for the award again fella 👍
Congradshulations!! Lol on content creator of the year!!
Congratulations, love your content and way to go....celebrating with a McFlurry!
I decided to subscribe... You presented this so simply I just had to play a bit of Alyx myself... Blown away with the wireless performance! Thank you good sir! (Q3)
you deserve that award more than anybody
Well done mate well deserved, your channels bloody great
non steam vr games run alright, you can just add them to the steam library. What im missing in steam link is the super resolution from Virtual desktop, it just looks much better with it
Can’t believe it’s that easy to set up! Insane!
I noticed the juddering right away. Hopefully they get that fixed soon. Other than that it is my preferred way to get into PCVR.
Damn! Congrats on winning the VR Content Creator of the Year award. Keep up the great content. Might have to give this Steam Link a try.
Congrats on ya award my brother!😊
Do you find the Quest Pro controllers great for using on a Quest 2/3? Are they better than the Quest 2/3 controllers?
I'm glad you won VR Creator of the Year! I've been watching your VR content throughout the year and often share your videos with friends.
I've got the pro controllers and personally I love them.
There are pros and cons for both controllers. I think I'm in the minority here but I personally don't like the quest 3 controllers so pro controllers were a must for me.
It's strange how the capture from the headset seems to almost place the camera on your forehead lol. Cause you're clearly looking forward, but to us it's like you're constantly staring at the top of the big virtual screen. Is that something you can adjust?
steam link, literally solved my problem with wirless pcvr, i had 2.5ghz wifi and pc with ethernet cable, it wont work with oculus airlink or virtual desktop, but with steam link it just works perfectly, no delay, weird view glitching or lag, no cable anymore
before i had some problems with disconecting every long period but after an update steam just show a message and reconecting automatically again afer 3 seconds and it happends even less, and thats solved it basically, now i can play pcvr wirless with no delay using a 2.5 wifi, it dont disconect and just works...
it just come up and make pcvr much better
i dint use the metrics thing for seeing the ms yet but testing with my own view and comparing with my pc, it has no visible delay, and feels fine when playing, its amazing, is not blurry also
idk what kind of magic is this or maybe the others methods are just bad in stability
prob if i had a much better wifi virtual desktop can give better resolution mode but i dont see my steam link having a bad resolution tho comparing to cable link
i was playing contractors showdown and i can see the ppl at a vry long range without using any scope
u can add any vr game u have locally to steamvr btw
now i had 2 months using steam link almost since its launch, i barely use oculus link cable now, for some pcvr games that are just for seat
for flat screen pc games on my quest i use immersed it conects wirlessly, and really fast, looks good and give up to 5 screens, even virtual ones
using steam link or virtual desktop for that i imagine it vry messy idk
Congrats Beardo Benjo! Well deserved!
Wireless has its limits, Quest 3's XR2 USBC controller might be crap but its still double the bandwidth of what you will get from a 6e wireless connection. Whenever i run wireless i have to crank the refresh and supersampling down to prevent tearing
You won! Ayyyy, congratulations mate you absolutely deserved it. Far and away my favourite VR channel on RUclips. ❤
gg on winning the award! great work! keep it up!
I have been playing Alan Wake and had the same stutter issue you saw. Even though it was running at 200 FPS on my desktop.
If I enable v-sync in AW game settings, the issue goes away and it's very smooth in the headset
Glad you won man!!
Congratulations on the award, you deserve it.
Grats Ben! 🎉 100% deserved. You are ans will forever be the VR content creator NR1 in the world 🌎 ❤
I just wanted to point out a few things, the big one is yes, you can play any games outside of steam on steam link and steam VR. You add them via the non steam game method on the computer and they should have a tab in steam VR to go to them. As well you can get out of the "home" area to just a black screen for more immersion with flat games and that might help the steaming of more demanding flat games. You can as well change the encoder type, bit rate and most everything else. A lot of good things with steam link. Only thing I know or at least I have about with virtual desktop that steam for sure it doesn't have the ability is to be able to attach the flat screen game to your view and allow head tracking to move the screen around with you.
Tried it and it was all pixelly. I'll stick to VR desktop
CONGRATULATIONS MATE! Well deserved. Always informative, witty, charming , relatable and down-to-earth! Thank you for being and keeping Real BB! Love to ya bruv!
Steam Link has a serious issue that makes it look absolutely TERRIBLE.
To start, its an very easy setup, pretty much instant connection, but they have implemented a blurry filter at the bottom of field of view.
Its incredibly irritating blurry filter makes VR impossible to enjoy, and increasing per eye resolution, doesn't fix it either.
I get no such issues with either AirLink or Virtual Desktop.
buy q3 now or just wait for q4? I hear q4 will have eye tracking
Q4 probably won't make an appearance until late 2025 or mid 2026, I actually think 2025 is probably too ambitious so more like '26. Quest 3 will give you plenty of value until then OR keep an eye out for the potential Quest Pro 2 later this year (rumoured)
Should I leave it at 90hz or put it to 120 hz? (Quest 2)
I never used virtual desktop but as someone who comes from air link I like steam link more, It feels less laggy and in a game like blade in sorcery I get this graphical glitch I called texture stretching but steam link gets rid of it, I haven't tried beat saber for a more faster type game cause I broke mine but other games I've played steam link is awesome
Congratulations. I'm surprised they didn't update the old Steam home area for this.
Congrats on winning!
Hello Beardo! Could you test Bigscreen Beyond in games with vr mods? I'm going to choose this VR headset next year and I can't wait. I wonder what 1440p games will look like in these VR glasses and at what cost.
had to pause the vid to go check this for myself (good wifi6 at home)
its very good!
Not a chance i'm switching to this. I need to play my Oculus games and play 2d games on a giant screen with passthrough and no laggy environments.
Congrats on the win, well deserved, although I reckon a wolf in vr is better..... (Only kidding you're all great ).
Any hooo Nice one sir, keep up the great work.
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
steam link came out in 2015. so probably been working on this for a while
I wonder if Steam Link will come to Vision Pro? I’m really hoping Virtual Desktop does so I can play PCVR on it too.
The biggest problem will be that AVP comes without any controllers which means that literally none of SteamVR games will work (out of the box that is).
But in the VR community are many tinkerers that e.g. managed to combine Index controllers with Quests so maybe they'll find a way for AVP as well.
But on the other hand Apple is known for not allowing sideloading on most of their platforms and locking down access to deeper systems so that can be an even bigger hurdle.
That headset isn't really for gaming
Congratulations dude
Hell yeah congrats it's well deserved!
I personally found that i got a worse experience using steam link vr than i do using the standard airlink setup.
I had some stuttering and image quality would degrade occasionally compared to airlink where its very solid and consistent.
Worth noting as well that when using steam link to stream games to my TV i also have similar issues whereas an app like Moonlight is flawless.
I have the same experience. Airlink is super smooth while steam link has strange stuttering.
This is only going to make virtual desktop better which in turn will make steam link better as well.
1000%, a rising tide lifts all boats
One massive downside on the steamvr link is, that it is only sharp in the center of the view. around the border it gets really blurry.
And sharpness around the borders is actually a selling point of the quest 3 and its pancake lenses.
Steam link yes you need to force the foveal stuff to 1536 and it is way softer than questlink and especially VD. I DO like all the sharpening options of VD and even Oculus debug tool has link sharpening that works a little, steam link is NOT as crisp as the other 2... How can you not see that
I only have a quest 2 and no pc, what does this update mean for me? I can play pc vr games?
No you need a pc
I added revive to steam and did some asguards wrath and stormland. they seemed to play okay. think my set up VD still ran it a bit better. more testing needed
Weeeeeehaaaaaaaa! The best gets the recognition he deserves! Gogo benjo! 🤩🤩🤯🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
Holy shit, congrats Ben! You're the only one I really watch anymore. Well deserved. Cheers!
I’m new at this . Tried to play HL alyx using steam link/vr setup was very easy but the game keep lagging when I walk, hand and head movement no issues . I tried changing settings and add some commands to the game at steam side. Nothing help!
Now I’m playing using virtual desktop. No issues at all. All smooth! Barely any setup.
How is your passthrough so clear!?
Steam link blurs the edges.. it only gives you a clear focus point in the center... Where as VD is clear all around. Though I'm not connected to it with Ethernet.. I'm doing all of this wireless both PC and quest.
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Get Half Life Alyx workshop maps, they're awesome and there's hundreds with different themes, eg Goldeneye, Fallout etc. It's all I play almost.
The strap i see you using is for quest 2. How did you get it to work? Thank you, good videos!
I've had the opposite experience. Air Link has been great but VD and Steam Link have been useless. Too much latency to play Beat Saber, and that's most of my time in VR
I have a tp link wifi 6 access point directly above my play space and a 4070 in my hard wired pc. Should I expect a good experience with the quest 3?
Only problem i got is i cant get the game audio on my headset. Tried adjusting like 20 settings allready. Switching between oculus sound device and steam streaming audio. Nothing works
I cant get my audio to work in wireless..... Tried almost everything. Steam streaming audio or oculus audio device nothing works. Any advice?
Interesting video. I have a quest 3 I was going to get a laptop and use it with Virtual desktop but nobody ever mentions whether or not the Laptop has to say whether it is VR ready or not. Does Virtual desktop work with any decent graphics card.
Hello, I would like to get some advice from you guys. Currently, I'm building a PC with RTX 3090 ti, i9 12900k, 32gb Ram DDR5, how would it perform in PCVR with most of the recent released titles on Quest 3?
After I am done with building my pc, I've thought about buying the Quest 3, this would be the first time I'm jumping into VR.
What I'm looking to buy is the Quest 3 128 GB as I would like to use the Quest 3 mainly to play games that I am buying through Steam.
I've done some research and tried to find out if it worth it buying a link cable and play games with a wired connection, or wirelessly through virtual desktop.
I do not own any Wifi 6 routers and my PC is not wired to the router, as I am always using it through Wi-Fi. Would I be able to play games wirelessly without any issues with those internet speeds on wifi? Download 126.2 Mb/s, Upload 97.1 Mb/s, Ping 13ms, Jitter 0.8ms
Also, I would like to mention that I am looking to play games where I have to move a lot like Arizona Sunshine 2, Blade & Sorcery and so on.
Would you guys recommend me using a link cable or virtual desktop? Any advice helps, thank you!