I’ve bought a quest 3 for PCVR, I totally agree, it’s well worth the upgrade. Also, the standalone games are definitely better and I can see myself playing a few of them when I’m not with my PC
Yes please tell us how’s the battery life through link cable if it can go above 10 hrs I will get it but if not then I will wait or get something different
Contrast: there is an option in accessability menu, if you turn it up a tiny bit it give the small bump in contrast you were looking for. doesn't fix the greys, but it makes everything pop more so the greys aren't as dominant. can recommend!
Beardo, I think you are a very cool guy. Pat yourself on the back for all your hard work. This channel is as informative as it is entertaining. Thank you for everything, and I wish you great success in the years to come! Consider me a new fan. I am rooting for you, brother.
I have a 4090 ! I have a quest 3 and that thing is just terrible for pcvr ! compression with distortion effect and terrible performance on very demanding games And you drink what ever that guy keeps saying videos after videos !
@@nigaudlotovrbenchmarkandvi313 Yeah, I watched @VRFlightSimGuy today and he said it's worse than the 3 year old Reverb G2. He bought a 128GB and a 512GB headset and one of them was a lot worse than the other but even the best has screen door effect and mura. It makes no sense using it for PCVR.
His reaction to me sounded a little too positive compared to what everyone else is saying. I felt as if he's never tried other VR headset other than Quest 2 or he's getting something in return for this amount of positive feedback.@@nigaudlotovrbenchmarkandvi313
Dang, now that is a BIG difference in PCVR. Thank you for focusing on the PCVR side of the Quest 3 and clarifying that you also need a nice PC to get the difference. Also, thank you for testing it on different games. Keep it up.
It looks like a small improvement but the graphics still look like trash compared to PC or movies. I wish these companies would just skip like 3 or 4 iterations of minor improvements and just jump to something that is really good. Something with 270+ FOV and 4x the resolution. I think that would bring a lot more interest into the VR world.
@@stachowi I'm using Virtual Desktop via 5GHz WiFi. And AirLink with Oculus exclusive games like Lone Echo I & II. Worked beautifully with Q1 and even better now with Q3.
Props to Zuckerberg and Meta for pushing a lot of their chips into this technology. I think Meta knew that if they played it safe with merely owning Facebook and Instagram, that they would fade into obscurity over time. They’re billions in the hole with this investment but it really is the future, and the quest 3 is a huge pin in that timeline. Exciting times, I can only imagine how refined VR will be in 10 years.
The standalone concept has turned millions of people against VR with many making the statement that "VR is a gimmick". In fact 18 million Quest owners don't play it, only 2 million monthly users.....that's not an advancement or an accomplishment in the industry. If they forced people to hook it to a PC, the user base might be higher, even if sale were lower. Quest 3 graphics still suck, my PSVR-1 hooked to a PS5 blows it out the water, but sure IF you have a decent PC rig it looks like Quest 3 is def the way to go. Sony is still the leader in the VR industry, Meta I the former leader with the last gen headset but until they can prove they can sell millions of this thing at $500-$650 then Sony is in the lead.
@@paulbellino5330 he is just a dirty smelly basement dweller. He has no games to play anymore, he will be replaying alyx for the 10th time, dreaming about the world where Meta didn't poison his only hobby he has ever had
@@Alien_isolationist people aren't playing because the games still aren't convincing enough. Part of that has to do with tradeoffs that are being made in the headsets themselves. Adoption will come with time. I still think locomotion needs to be sorted before vr games can take off. I;m not talking in game locomotion either,. I'm talking physical locomotion.
Dunno why this was posted but im reading and replying from inside my Quest 3 headset on the Immersed app connected to my PC and typing on it haha. It is quite amazing for sure, surprised how nice the included heastrap fits well when its just a bit loose.
The aliasing is my only minor gripe with Quest 3. This is partially due to it using two screens that are at an angle inside the headset, so it doesn't quite do horizontal surfaces as well as you'd think given the resolution and lens improvements. This is a trade off for the horizontal and vertical FOV the angled lenses provide, and I think it's worth it, but you will notice that there's a small bit of aliasing on the edges of straight lines. More on the horizontal than the vertical. This is a very small gripe and overall it is an complete upgrade over the Quest 2. I wish there was a better way to get through the lens footage for stuff like this. It never looks as good as it does to your eyes, it's always washed out and blurrier than the actual headset.
I think the FoV thing really depends on your IPD in Q3 vs Index because I've heard several people, who own both, state that there's basically no difference. While some claim there is. I'm thinking either facial interface or their IPD being different might account for that.
Pretty noticeable for me coming coming from quest 2. But the fov is nearly identical from the index. But you could get a little more but removing the facial interface and using the bobovr head trap if it’s comfortable to you
Unfortunately the default face mask doesn't allow the lenses to get quite as close to the eyes as they can be and thus some extra FOV remains unused. Removing the whole face mask and holding the Q3 as close as possible made quite the FOV difference for me! We really need an alternative face mask and another kind of head strap that doesn't press the Q3 into your face. That BoboVR M3 head strap is nowhere available... @@cia4gent128
Thank you for this video! I've been eyeballing the Q3 for a while now, didn't preorder because I wanted to wait for solid information on whether it was good for PCVR, and I've been hearing good thing but this video really sold me on it. I'll be ordering ASAP, and because I'm upgrading from a Rift S I know the difference is gonna be mind-blowing. I can't wait!
My own testing of my Quest 3, Virtual desktop and my ASUS wifi6e has been amazing. It's another tier of improvement from my wireless Quest 2 setup in terms of lower latency and jittering. I can barely tell in some games that the game's response is wireless. No need for tweaking of channels of the router wifi6e where Quest 2 needed to select a specific channel.
would've loved to see some q2 through the lens comparison footage. solid vid regardless you actually like playing without the facial interface? i mean you keep mentioning you wish contrast was higher and surely that would fix it
Tried half life Alyx yesterday and it was top notch. What really surprised me was the airlink quality. With my wifi not being too fast, I was very impressed. Problem is, today I cannot connect airlink at all for some reason.
I was having the same issue. Might have been due to a VPN. I had to restart my PC like twice and also did the headset as well just to be safe and it eventually worked. The frustrating thing though is that in those 10-15 minutes that it took to get up and running the Q3 battery dropped like 10%.... the battery life is def lacking on these!
What you didn't discuss here, and what hasn't been discussed at any length really is if you can play PCVR tethered via the Quest 3. This is surely going to give the best experience. You also didn't include a link to your Quest 3 review video in the description.
Hey @Beardo can you compare this to the Valve Index or another PC based VR setup? How does it handle fast animation? Like hold your hands in front of your face and wave them back and forth as quickly as you can. I sense a noticable difference between my quest 2 and my PC based Rift S when I do this.
I hooked mine up via oculus link today, I have a cable that has sperate power to keep the headset running longer and I played some vertigo 2 and it looked amazing. Heck even the quest link starting area was markedly improved looking. I am so happy I got a quest 3. However it's still pricy after a 3 year warranty for and Uncle Sam getting his taste it cost me close to 700 dollars. Way more then I paid for the quest 2. .... still worth it though, this thing looks amazing
@@MrMattMagooMhm, using the Oculus Debug Tool you can find in the files, with the Quest 2 I’ve always found raising the bitrate to at least 300 Mbps and disabling dynamic bitrate to look quite a bit better than default
Yeah the debug tool is great to squeeze more performance. Tip for sim racers. I reduce the vertical plane of view (forget what it’s actually called) to 0.6 when sim racing and I get about a 30-40% dump in GPU performance. It replicates a similar view if you where wearing a helmet, which you would be anyway. With that extra performance on hand you can increase fidelity in game. Of course if you prefer to look at your legs or the sky whilst racing that wouldn’t be for you 😊
I was looking for an all-purpose VR headset that would not cost me too much and would allow for a great PC VR experience. I think you sealed the deal on me getting the Quest 3.
another great video beardo bendo! i got my quest 3 yesterday and im loving it too along w pcvr. Cant wait for all the great content you'll give us in the future.
Its so exciting to see the positivity and buzz around this headset compared the pro launch. I really think Meta just need to focus on mainstream value headsets for now and this one is such a significant upgrade. I'm also glad to see they went with the pancake lenses which is something Sony really should have done for the PSVR2.
I got a Quest 3, came from pico 4. At first I wanted to keep my Pico 4 since the resolution was better, but after tested my friends Quest 3 I was blown away by the mixed reality capabilities and just how the UI is better and the amout of games. Also I could have full body tracking for my PC gaming for exemple Assetto Corsa or VRchat, I got the Quest 3 yesterday and Im still getting amazed
Edit- Keep your eyes open for a Black Friday deal if interested in the Reverb G2V2. Last year they were $300 (half off) for the whole weekend & Cyber Monday. Definitely worth waiting to see at this point. Does anyone know how the Quest 3 runs on mere mortal/ last gen hardware? I don't have a 4090, "just" a 3080 so no 40 series AV1 for me... I guess it's still an upgrade to the Quest 2, but I'm thinking a native PCVR HMD pulls a little bit ahead for the time being.
I’ve only got a 3060ti and yep everything looks crisper in the Q3 compared to my Q2 and FOV better. I’d say there’s a 30-40% improvement in clarity. What’s also noticeable is that there’s less compression artifacts if any. I have only tested with link cable at 400mbs but will have to try as Ben did with wireless. I read somewhere that the image produced for pancake lenses requires less processing power than fresnel so could be that. Contrast and colours are still the limiting factors compared to PSVR2, though.
@@dtz1000 Interesting, I haven't seen a review about it yet, I'm sure they will come flooding in, but the anecdotal evidence so far (like first impressions) have all been positive claiming very little compression with higher frame rates, but then again how much of that is due to owning a 4090 in the first place?
The Kayak game looks insane. Just by watching the video, it seems high quality. I could only imagine what it looked like inside the headset. Great video, as always!
@@Gh0stz9211 could it be the GPU not being that high end? Not being a dick I’m just wondering because I don’t know how the system requirements are on that game
I thought mine was brilliant, the quality of the screens looked great. Sadly I have had to return it due to dead pixels directly in-line with my vision. I will get another but im going to wait a few months now incase there's a quality control issue that needs sorting out.
It works as you would expect with airlink but it's just a smoother easier experience with virtual desktop, It's honestly worth the money. I've also noticed slight performance improvements when playing through VD.
@@FireElFreak airlink takes like one minute to set up, I've heard vd is more cumbersome. Also air link works perfect for me but I know its different for different rigs/setups
@@YoBrand15 yeah it varies, and when I say it’s a smoother experience I mean after you get everything set up, once you have your settings right it just feels like games run smoother when I’m using virtual desktop but maybe that’s just my rig
Is this harder to run on a mid range pc/laptop than the quest 2 in your opinion? My quest 2 runs amazingly well for pc vr on my lenovo legion 5p with an rtx 2060...don't know whether to take the chance.
6:38 Valve Index didn't age very well since 2019. It has really low resolution and screen door effect ever since then. However I still don't think it's worth to change yet. We don't have deepth of field yet like they announced it with Half Dome VR and its advanced optics and robust eye tracking. Dunno.
My Rift CV1 is definitely showing its age these days. Been on the fence about getting a PSVR2 just because most of my VR experiences are driving related on PC. The Quest 3 definitely has my attention. May treat myself to a nice christmas present this year
Best VR game Is Gran Turismo 7 and good wheel (PS5, psvr2 )Have PC and Quest 3. Quest 3 got very sharp screen. Watching RUclips in 4k is very close to 4k tv. Amazing device, but native quest games looks like on Ps2
Have a PSVR2, I do like it for its OLED lenses and eye tracking but the sweet spot is very small and takes alot adjustment to get it just right. Just got a Quest 3 and with its pancake lens the sweet spot is the whole lens with no distortion, the clarity is amazing no matter how crooked I put my headset on!
@@hb-hr1nhMy biggest issue with Psvr2. Even when you set them perfectly. You play a bit, they slide down 2 millimeters and it looks blurry with some color distortion.
I love my racing sims in VR and play GT7 on PSVR2. I’d say colours are better but the image clarity is no way as sharp as PCVR with Q3 in say AMS2, AC, for example. GT7/PSVR2 clarity is pretty awful for far off objects like the castle on the Nordschleife being a blurry mess. In AMS2 it’s like 3 or 4 times the definition.
I was on the fence about it for PCVR. I got it for MR but was really surprised how good it is for PCVR. If you want a couple other pretty games on PCVR, Green Hell VR and Deep States are both beautiful.
Been using the Q3 since last night and still haven't managed to do everything I want. It's a big upgrade in many ways from the Q2. The hand operation without the controllers is crazy. Can't get over that. The colours are better on PC gaming than anything else. Maybe it's Virtual Desktop doing that. Really nice pop and the contrast is good enough. I never play at max brightness. Approx 50 percent so black levels are very acceptable. Better than the Q2. The Q2 added brightness levels in an update but I never liked what it did. It took the vibrancy with it. Not on the Q3. The lenses are the best I have ever seen. So clear. The resolution is amazing. I do have a 4090 so it's set it up for maximum quality. 120 Hz on some games. HL Alyx, insane. Mixed reality, crazy. This thing is so good. I have an Aubika head strap with the battery so nice balance and extended playtime.
@@comeontars I have a Dlink 3060 WiFi 5. It's a tri band so I use my Q3 on a separate band on it's own. I get 866 Mbps connection stable. 29ms latency on average. AV1 encode selected. Half life Alyx at max settings at 120 fps. No artifacting at all. On Hevc it's noticeably worse. More aliasing, stuttering with drops in fps to 109 probably due to CPU. Latency is similar but goes up to 36ms. The quality is more like going back to the Q2 if that makes sense. You lose the advantages of the lenses kind of. The router is fine but I would definitely go for the ability to use the AV1 codec for sure over WiFi 6.
Beardo Benjo , Thanks for the video on the game can you pleases tell me the controller movement setting you have in the game , like continuous move look at hand or hands . cheer for the help James .
I just played Red Matter on Q3 for the first time and I'm blown away from how good it looks. After 2 years on a blurry Q2 it's a night and day improvement.
@@jaymanwittwarning: there are some headset with displays that are faulty. I have never noticed the screen door effect on my quest 2. But on the quest 3 I noticed a very very strange pattern across the whole screen anytime there is a white background. I also have what is either a dead pixel or a knick on the lenses. Other than that what this video demonstrates is accurate. It’s absolutely insane how good PCVR looks on this thing. I never realized my PC was capable of such sharp visuals, the quest 2 was holding it back. Honestly really blown away despite the problems.
@@musashidanmcgrath but it was allready nearly eliminated on Quest2 ,is different really good from q2 to q3 ??Im still not Sure if i want change from q2 to q3 ,
@@kralkrauterblach414 Well for me the difference is huge. I was very disappointed with Quest 2, and I was dubious of the quality improvement claims of Q3, but I'm very impressed with the difference.
Coming form Q2 then the Pico 4, the Quest 3 has what i missed on the Pico 4 when it comes to PCVR, because it has more power, you can run 120Hz. which just feels much smoother, bigger FOV, sharper, and with virtual dekstop you get the new AV1 codec, which together with a RTX card works great, i benchmark in what i see mostly and you can see and feel it all when playing No Limits rollercoater simulator, and for the first time since i started VR it FELT smooth! Meaning not choppy! This is meanly because of the 120 Hz. but also the power of the Q3. And it will probably become even better with WIfi7 coming next year!
5:00 Great video and info! Just curious though, how did you manage to get your Bobo strap attached? That's the biggest thing I miss from the quest 2 is the BOBOVR M2 Pro strap; I had heard Bobo was going to release a pro strap or adapter kit for quest 3, but I checked the Bobo site and its just a tantalizing, "Coming soon" Edit: Never mind, I see its released just sold out! Still, great video! 🙂
You try No Limits 2 yet? If you like rollercoaster, I would give it a try, definitely worth it and fun. Might make you a little sick in the stomach though. There are thousands of rollercoasters you can download from around the world.
I see alot of RUclipsrs wearing the Bobo with the Quest 3 YET the website hasn't released a Bobo for Quest 3 yet. Are you using the M2 on the Quest 3? If so, did it just snap right on or did you have to jerry rig it? I'd like to get a Bobo that fits the Quest 3. Looks like others are asking the same question.... let us know.
Thanks, I'll look it up. Bought a printer a year ago. Still curious if there's a actual Bobo for Quest 3 or is it still on it's way. Just curious how he is using his in the video. @@xhappymasksalesmenx4092
@@CrazyUncleDrew they didn't have enough. a few straps they had got sold out super quick and are on end of October/November delivery dates according to some people. So they didn't have enough to deliver straps for everyone. It might be a while before they restock significant quantities. Again that's based on some people feedback. So my assumptions can be wrong and they may restock sooner than that.
Thanks man, makes sense. I had a feeling they may have sold out knowing the Quest 3 was coming out. I just found out about the BOBO. I had a PSVR and Quest 2 and both killed my head, gave me headaches and never could get into it. I will say that with the Quest 3 I played it for the first time last night and never got motion sickness or a headache and not sure if it's a combo of better resolution and FOV and strap or what. Can't wait to try the BOBO.@@chadef555
Sorry if this was answered elsewhere, but why Virtual Desktop over Airlink? What update/settings in VD makes it better than Airlink? I know some people have success with one over the other, I've never had an issue with airlink.
I know for one that VD has a mode where it lets the Snapdragon of the Q3 do some kind of superresolution thingy, making your anti aliasing look better at no performance cost of the PC's GPU. On Pico 4 and Quest 2 this worked till high resolution streaming (something round 2500x2500 I believe), but on Q3 it works for ultra and godlike resolution as well (3000, 3400).@@murphyjackson5873
I'll be upgrading from a rift S that I've never had controllers for. I've been playing racing and flying games exclusively and the tunnel vision is atrocious. Can't wait for it to get here.
Would being wired with the official link cable look slightly better? I don’t care about the cable being in the way because I have the kiwi pulley system
It's so clear using virtual desktop that I haven't connected the cable at all. But I think I'm able to use the highest codec having a 4000 series Nvidia card.
Half Life Alyx is precisely why I cannot get a non-OLED HMD. I had to stop halfway through the game because the blacks were way too grey, so I'm skipping it and waiting for the Deckard. Also, no eye tracking makes it obsolete with no foveated rendering in its future.
Great video, what settings are on Virtual Desktop though? I've tried tweaking and have a 4090 and 7900X3D and a great 3gbps connection with a wifi 6E router next to me and still can't get it to run consistently well. I have it on the AV1 10bit and Godlike but I'm not sure if there's even more settings I need to adjust.
I impulsively got a quest 2 and I will soon get q3 because I have wanted it for pc gaming for VR I like the games quest provides but want the best quality I can afford the whole set up process annoying will it be eiser to set everything up on 3 now I set up the quest 2 and downloaded things needed it was stressful for me to set up
Am I seeing right that you don't have the face cushion on? I was wondering if I could do this as I play racing sims with Rift S and without the face cushion. Doesn't really brake immersion and I don't get as hot. I suppose you need a 3rd party headstrap to be able to do this?
I’ve been limping along with a Frankensteined Rift S, tempted to get one of these simply to shackle to my pc. But I’m worried my network might not handle wireless well. Do you get as impressive results when tethering with a link cable?
I have a HP Reverb G2, unfortunately the first edition they released, whose controllers weren't reliable enough. I wonder if the Quest 3 could be considered an upgrade apart from the controllers.
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I’ve bought a quest 3 for PCVR, I totally agree, it’s well worth the upgrade. Also, the standalone games are definitely better and I can see myself playing a few of them when I’m not with my PC
what did you use before?
@@jasonmeister6988Quest 2
how long does the battery last normally?
Yes please tell us how’s the battery life through link cable if it can go above 10 hrs I will get it but if not then I will wait or get something different
what type of connection do you use? Link Cable?
Contrast: there is an option in accessability menu, if you turn it up a tiny bit it give the small bump in contrast you were looking for. doesn't fix the greys, but it makes everything pop more so the greys aren't as dominant. can recommend!
Beardo, I think you are a very cool guy. Pat yourself on the back for all your hard work. This channel is as informative as it is entertaining. Thank you for everything, and I wish you great success in the years to come! Consider me a new fan. I am rooting for you, brother.
Sack swing much?
It's, his accent
I have a 4090 !
I have a quest 3
and that thing is just terrible for pcvr ! compression with distortion effect and terrible performance on very demanding games
And you drink what ever that guy keeps saying videos after videos !
@@nigaudlotovrbenchmarkandvi313 Yeah, I watched @VRFlightSimGuy today and he said it's worse than the 3 year old Reverb G2. He bought a 128GB and a 512GB headset and one of them was a lot worse than the other but even the best has screen door effect and mura. It makes no sense using it for PCVR.
His reaction to me sounded a little too positive compared to what everyone else is saying. I felt as if he's never tried other VR headset other than Quest 2 or he's getting something in return for this amount of positive feedback.@@nigaudlotovrbenchmarkandvi313
Dang, now that is a BIG difference in PCVR. Thank you for focusing on the PCVR side of the Quest 3 and clarifying that you also need a nice PC to get the difference. Also, thank you for testing it on different games. Keep it up.
It looks like a small improvement but the graphics still look like trash compared to PC or movies. I wish these companies would just skip like 3 or 4 iterations of minor improvements and just jump to something that is really good. Something with 270+ FOV and 4x the resolution. I think that would bring a lot more interest into the VR world.
What’s a good enough PC cost?
@@jbarisyeah bro im sure they can just feasibly do that?
I switched from Quest 1 to Quest 3 and my mind is blown with the sharpness of PCVR! 🤯 And thanks for your videos, keep up the good work! ❤
are you just using the link cable and the oculus PC desktop app tethered?
@@stachowiboth are good unless your wife speeds are low you won’t notice too much compression
@@HenrySavinon wife speed lmao
@@stachowi I'm using Virtual Desktop via 5GHz WiFi. And AirLink with Oculus exclusive games like Lone Echo I & II. Worked beautifully with Q1 and even better now with Q3.
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Props to Zuckerberg and Meta for pushing a lot of their chips into this technology. I think Meta knew that if they played it safe with merely owning Facebook and Instagram, that they would fade into obscurity over time. They’re billions in the hole with this investment but it really is the future, and the quest 3 is a huge pin in that timeline. Exciting times, I can only imagine how refined VR will be in 10 years.
The standalone concept has turned millions of people against VR with many making the statement that "VR is a gimmick". In fact 18 million Quest owners don't play it, only 2 million monthly users.....that's not an advancement or an accomplishment in the industry. If they forced people to hook it to a PC, the user base might be higher, even if sale were lower. Quest 3 graphics still suck, my PSVR-1 hooked to a PS5 blows it out the water, but sure IF you have a decent PC rig it looks like Quest 3 is def the way to go. Sony is still the leader in the VR industry, Meta I the former leader with the last gen headset but until they can prove they can sell millions of this thing at $500-$650 then Sony is in the lead.
@@Alien_isolationist I smell a big Fat Fan Boy. Support VR. All VR....
@@paulbellino5330 he is just a dirty smelly basement dweller. He has no games to play anymore, he will be replaying alyx for the 10th time, dreaming about the world where Meta didn't poison his only hobby he has ever had
@@Alien_isolationist people aren't playing because the games still aren't convincing enough. Part of that has to do with tradeoffs that are being made in the headsets themselves. Adoption will come with time. I still think locomotion needs to be sorted before vr games can take off. I;m not talking in game locomotion either,. I'm talking physical locomotion.
Dunno why this was posted but im reading and replying from inside my Quest 3 headset on the Immersed app connected to my PC and typing on it haha. It is quite amazing for sure, surprised how nice the included heastrap fits well when its just a bit loose.
The aliasing is my only minor gripe with Quest 3.
This is partially due to it using two screens that are at an angle inside the headset, so it doesn't quite do horizontal surfaces as well as you'd think given the resolution and lens improvements.
This is a trade off for the horizontal and vertical FOV the angled lenses provide, and I think it's worth it, but you will notice that there's a small bit of aliasing on the edges of straight lines. More on the horizontal than the vertical.
This is a very small gripe and overall it is an complete upgrade over the Quest 2.
I wish there was a better way to get through the lens footage for stuff like this. It never looks as good as it does to your eyes, it's always washed out and blurrier than the actual headset.
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I think the FoV thing really depends on your IPD in Q3 vs Index because I've heard several people, who own both, state that there's basically no difference. While some claim there is. I'm thinking either facial interface or their IPD being different might account for that.
I got Q3 and the Hfov is 110 and Vfov100
Pretty noticeable for me coming coming from quest 2. But the fov is nearly identical from the index. But you could get a little more but removing the facial interface and using the bobovr head trap if it’s comfortable to you
Unfortunately the default face mask doesn't allow the lenses to get quite as close to the eyes as they can be and thus some extra FOV remains unused. Removing the whole face mask and holding the Q3 as close as possible made quite the FOV difference for me! We really need an alternative face mask and another kind of head strap that doesn't press the Q3 into your face. That BoboVR M3 head strap is nowhere available... @@cia4gent128
25:11 you flew right over my apartment building. I’m convinced I buying one. My kid will love it. Thanks.
Feels like I need another 1 hour video of you playing Cyberpunk VR 😁
Amazing how far VR has come. The details in Alyx are mind blowing.
Wish half life alyx had a co op or multiplayer
and that game is years old now
Full head tracking consumer headsets have been around for just over 25 years, I am disappointed how slowly it has progressed.
Thank you for this video! I've been eyeballing the Q3 for a while now, didn't preorder because I wanted to wait for solid information on whether it was good for PCVR, and I've been hearing good thing but this video really sold me on it. I'll be ordering ASAP, and because I'm upgrading from a Rift S I know the difference is gonna be mind-blowing. I can't wait!
My own testing of my Quest 3, Virtual desktop and my ASUS wifi6e has been amazing. It's another tier of improvement from my wireless Quest 2 setup in terms of lower latency and jittering. I can barely tell in some games that the game's response is wireless. No need for tweaking of channels of the router wifi6e where Quest 2 needed to select a specific channel.
would've loved to see some q2 through the lens comparison footage. solid vid regardless
you actually like playing without the facial interface? i mean you keep mentioning you wish contrast was higher and surely that would fix it
8:00 great capturing job, I'm blown away!
Tried half life Alyx yesterday and it was top notch. What really surprised me was the airlink quality. With my wifi not being too fast, I was very impressed.
Problem is, today I cannot connect airlink at all for some reason.
I was having the same issue. Might have been due to a VPN. I had to restart my PC like twice and also did the headset as well just to be safe and it eventually worked. The frustrating thing though is that in those 10-15 minutes that it took to get up and running the Q3 battery dropped like 10%.... the battery life is def lacking on these!
@alphaspartan I use the Virtual desktop now. Runs flawlessly
@@jbvroxx3208 don't you have to have airlink working to get to the virtual desktop?
What you didn't discuss here, and what hasn't been discussed at any length really is if you can play PCVR tethered via the Quest 3. This is surely going to give the best experience. You also didn't include a link to your Quest 3 review video in the description.
I just ordered the 512GB model from Amazon after watching this video, you had me sold when you said it compares to Index and HP Reverb for PC games.
You should have waited cause there's already a price drop coming up due to lack of pre orders being less than 2 million
@@ASEDMEDIAwhere are U seeing this info about a price drop ? Not saying your wrong just I can't seem to find any info on it
@grimreapervlogs he's just making it up. they're not gonna drop the price this close to Christmas
@@jeffmccloud905 I agree prob won't even drop for a year even then would only be $100 off or something hahah
Ya'll think he's lying? Everyone had quest 2s why would they need 3s? I believe a price drop will happen soon enough just watch
Hey @Beardo can you compare this to the Valve Index or another PC based VR setup? How does it handle fast animation? Like hold your hands in front of your face and wave them back and forth as quickly as you can. I sense a noticable difference between my quest 2 and my PC based Rift S when I do this.
I'm going from a Rift to Quest 3, this difference is amazing!
I hooked mine up via oculus link today, I have a cable that has sperate power to keep the headset running longer and I played some vertigo 2 and it looked amazing. Heck even the quest link starting area was markedly improved looking. I am so happy I got a quest 3. However it's still pricy after a 3 year warranty for and Uncle Sam getting his taste it cost me close to 700 dollars. Way more then I paid for the quest 2. .... still worth it though, this thing looks amazing
I've heard, if you get into the dev settings you can up the bitrate for the link cable and make it even better. Plan on trying it tonight.
@@MrMattMagooMhm, using the Oculus Debug Tool you can find in the files, with the Quest 2 I’ve always found raising the bitrate to at least 300 Mbps and disabling dynamic bitrate to look quite a bit better than default
Yeah the debug tool is great to squeeze more performance. Tip for sim racers. I reduce the vertical plane of view (forget what it’s actually called) to 0.6 when sim racing and I get about a 30-40% dump in GPU performance. It replicates a similar view if you where wearing a helmet, which you would be anyway. With that extra performance on hand you can increase fidelity in game. Of course if you prefer to look at your legs or the sky whilst racing that wouldn’t be for you 😊
I was looking for an all-purpose VR headset that would not cost me too much and would allow for a great PC VR experience. I think you sealed the deal on me getting the Quest 3.
What about the wireless lag? I've been using Rift S for the past 2.5 years. Tried Q2 for wireless airlink PCVR but no avail (laggy).
another great video beardo bendo! i got my quest 3 yesterday and im loving it too along w pcvr. Cant wait for all the great content you'll give us in the future.
Its so exciting to see the positivity and buzz around this headset compared the pro launch.
I really think Meta just need to focus on mainstream value headsets for now and this one is such a significant upgrade.
I'm also glad to see they went with the pancake lenses which is something Sony really should have done for the PSVR2.
psvr2 needs a refresh with improved lenses.
If I had a 4090 I'd be playing MSFS a hell of a lot more, that game is peak VR in terms of visuals and immersion 👌
Yeah, but that game is boring. 😊
its not boring @@WOojerVest3andQuest3onMe
it's not a game
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@@saltmaker5353 I am currently playing Iron Man VR and I can tell you that flying around as Iron Man is So much better. The feeling is amazing.
I got a Quest 3, came from pico 4. At first I wanted to keep my Pico 4 since the resolution was better, but after tested my friends Quest 3 I was blown away by the mixed reality capabilities and just how the UI is better and the amout of games. Also I could have full body tracking for my PC gaming for exemple Assetto Corsa or VRchat, I got the Quest 3 yesterday and Im still getting amazed
Edit- Keep your eyes open for a Black Friday deal if interested in the Reverb G2V2. Last year they were $300 (half off) for the whole weekend & Cyber Monday. Definitely worth waiting to see at this point.
Does anyone know how the Quest 3 runs on mere mortal/ last gen hardware?
I don't have a 4090, "just" a 3080 so no 40 series AV1 for me... I guess it's still an upgrade to the Quest 2, but I'm thinking a native PCVR HMD pulls a little bit ahead for the time being.
I’ve only got a 3060ti and yep everything looks crisper in the Q3 compared to my Q2 and FOV better. I’d say there’s a 30-40% improvement in clarity. What’s also noticeable is that there’s less compression artifacts if any. I have only tested with link cable at 400mbs but will have to try as Ben did with wireless. I read somewhere that the image produced for pancake lenses requires less processing power than fresnel so could be that. Contrast and colours are still the limiting factors compared to PSVR2, though.
According to reviews, that AV1 makes little to no noticeable difference to wireless and the link cable gives a better picture.
@@dtz1000 Interesting, I haven't seen a review about it yet, I'm sure they will come flooding in, but the anecdotal evidence so far (like first impressions) have all been positive claiming very little compression with higher frame rates, but then again how much of that is due to owning a 4090 in the first place?
@@Wooskii1 Day Dreamer VR has done the review.
Beardo, can you tell us your configuration with airlink and Virtual Desktop?
@beardobenjo can you go over virtual desktop setup? You've mentioned it a few times and I'm not familiar with it. Thanks
Thanks for clarifying that things in the distance look clear, that was one of my main questions when deciding to get the quest 3.
Can you play with a low PC with the quest 3 I have virtual desktop. I don’t know if it’s gonna work.
Won’t be very pleasant. If ur not getting consistent frames ur gonna get sick
You should try bumping the Quest's resolution percentage from 50% to 100% and see what happens to your PCVR experiences.
Do you have a link to the head strap you use? I just got my Quest 3 and already know I'll need a way better strap!
They are really tapping into the future with this headset and it's still just getting started wow
The Kayak game looks insane. Just by watching the video, it seems high quality. I could only imagine what it looked like inside the headset. Great video, as always!
I have it on viveport and it's unplayable with a 3060ti. Too laggy and jagged looking
@@Gh0stz9211 could it be the GPU not being that high end? Not being a dick I’m just wondering because I don’t know how the system requirements are on that game
@@pluschy7886 perhaps, most other games run fine though. Contractors I can run at 120hz on almost max everything but they are different game visually.
It was actually text on the back of the can in half life alyx.
Thank you for being one of the only people to dive into this yet. - It's really the main thing I've wanted to know before buying
I have a hp reverb g2 and it is still hard to beat
@@JozefTrubac why are you copy pasting this comment everywhere?
@@Thezuule1 I figured that people with G2 would be interested to hear. But I am removing the comment as there is still some tweaking I can do.
are you using bobo vr m2?
I thought mine was brilliant, the quality of the screens looked great. Sadly I have had to return it due to dead pixels directly in-line with my vision. I will get another but im going to wait a few months now incase there's a quality control issue that needs sorting out.
How is it with air link? People keep talking about desktop, but on my quest 2 airlink works perfectly
It works as you would expect with airlink but it's just a smoother easier experience with virtual desktop, It's honestly worth the money. I've also noticed slight performance improvements when playing through VD.
@@FireElFreak airlink takes like one minute to set up, I've heard vd is more cumbersome. Also air link works perfect for me but I know its different for different rigs/setups
@@YoBrand15 yeah it varies, and when I say it’s a smoother experience I mean after you get everything set up, once you have your settings right it just feels like games run smoother when I’m using virtual desktop but maybe that’s just my rig
Is this harder to run on a mid range pc/laptop than the quest 2 in your opinion? My quest 2 runs amazingly well for pc vr on my lenovo legion 5p with an rtx 2060...don't know whether to take the chance.
13:08 Flipping heck that look real
I'm not normally an early adopter, I normally wait until bugs are ironed out but this time I pre-ordered, got it yesterday and I love it.
6:38 Valve Index didn't age very well since 2019. It has really low resolution and screen door effect ever since then. However I still don't think it's worth to change yet. We don't have deepth of field yet like they announced it with Half Dome VR and its advanced optics and robust eye tracking. Dunno.
What headset strap do you have?? Sorry if it was mentioned in the video and I missed it
I’m sold. Thanks. My quest 3 will be my replacement for my daily drive, quest 2.
My Rift CV1 is definitely showing its age these days. Been on the fence about getting a PSVR2 just because most of my VR experiences are driving related on PC. The Quest 3 definitely has my attention. May treat myself to a nice christmas present this year
One of the wild upgrades with the Quest is the ability to use PCVR wirelessly in a room that your PC is not in
Best VR game Is Gran Turismo 7 and good wheel (PS5, psvr2 )Have PC and Quest 3. Quest 3 got very sharp screen. Watching RUclips in 4k is very close to 4k tv. Amazing device, but native quest games looks like on Ps2
Have a PSVR2, I do like it for its OLED lenses and eye tracking but the sweet spot is very small and takes alot adjustment to get it just right. Just got a Quest 3 and with its pancake lens the sweet spot is the whole lens with no distortion, the clarity is amazing no matter how crooked I put my headset on!
@@hb-hr1nhMy biggest issue with Psvr2. Even when you set them perfectly. You play a bit, they slide down 2 millimeters and it looks blurry with some color distortion.
I love my racing sims in VR and play GT7 on PSVR2. I’d say colours are better but the image clarity is no way as sharp as PCVR with Q3 in say AMS2, AC, for example. GT7/PSVR2 clarity is pretty awful for far off objects like the castle on the Nordschleife being a blurry mess. In AMS2 it’s like 3 or 4 times the definition.
Any plans to go over your PC setup? I'm looking to build but I'm new so it's nice to see what to look for as far as parts/performance.
Now, every FPS and 3rd Person Shooter should start getting VR. I am down for Rainbow Six Vegas and Vegas 2 in coop in VR. My body is ready.
I have great memories with oculus 2 and continue to play it this day, but on this Christmas i cant wait to get my hands on this quest 3.
Awesome stuff!. How did you get the Bobo VR strap to work with the Quest 3??
How does the visuals compare from In headset no PC vs with a PC? Just ordered mine
That's through compression via a USB cable right? Wish they had an uncompressed faster cable option.
I was on the fence about it for PCVR. I got it for MR but was really surprised how good it is for PCVR. If you want a couple other pretty games on PCVR, Green Hell VR and Deep States are both beautiful.
Can you do 1 on quest 3 vs pro? Curious how much better it is be specs. Thanks..
Day Dreamer VR already compared them. There isn't much difference between Quest Pro and Quest 3 for PCVR. Not really worth the upgrade from Quest Pro.
@@dtz1000Gotcha, but would not have minded one from beardo but that’s good news, thanks! (Also not just a pc vr comparison but stand alone).
Even through the lense it looks incredibly sharp
Could you post your PC spec briefly and your virtual desktop settings as well please
Hows the binocular overlap between the two? I'm considering returning my Q3 because the overlap feels worse for me than Q2.
It seems worse for me too compared to the Quest 2, but not bad enough to return it. I got used to it and it doesn't bother me or really notice it
Getting mine tomorrow. Cheers! I'm gonna use this more frequently than my other 3 VR headsets.
Been using the Q3 since last night and still haven't managed to do everything I want. It's a big upgrade in many ways from the Q2. The hand operation without the controllers is crazy. Can't get over that.
The colours are better on PC gaming than anything else. Maybe it's Virtual Desktop doing that. Really nice pop and the contrast is good enough. I never play at max brightness. Approx 50 percent so black levels are very acceptable. Better than the Q2. The Q2 added brightness levels in an update but I never liked what it did. It took the vibrancy with it. Not on the Q3.
The lenses are the best I have ever seen. So clear.
The resolution is amazing. I do have a 4090 so it's set it up for maximum quality. 120 Hz on some games. HL Alyx, insane. Mixed reality, crazy. This thing is so good. I have an Aubika head strap with the battery so nice balance and extended playtime.
You try the new codec?
@@comeontars I think it's automatic when selecting Godlike settings. I compared it to the Q2 wired and it's glorious. Truly satisfied with it.
@@Monster-Abee you got a 6e router by any chance? Curious if the gains that might provide
@@comeontars I have a Dlink 3060 WiFi 5. It's a tri band so I use my Q3 on a separate band on it's own. I get 866 Mbps connection stable. 29ms latency on average. AV1 encode selected. Half life Alyx at max settings at 120 fps. No artifacting at all. On Hevc it's noticeably worse. More aliasing, stuttering with drops in fps to 109 probably due to CPU. Latency is similar but goes up to 36ms. The quality is more like going back to the Q2 if that makes sense. You lose the advantages of the lenses kind of. The router is fine but I would definitely go for the ability to use the AV1 codec for sure over WiFi 6.
Can you do a video comparing this to ps vr2 like graphic wise and so on please
is the screen door effect still there? i mainly watch movies and its annoying at times. cheers
Damn bro, lol you need to try the Varjo Aero or Crystal...
Beardo Benjo , Thanks for the video on the game can you pleases tell me the controller movement setting you have in the game , like continuous move look at hand or hands . cheer for the help James .
I just played Red Matter on Q3 for the first time and I'm blown away from how good it looks. After 2 years on a blurry Q2 it's a night and day improvement.
What is your opinion of the screen door effect - do you notice it ?
@@jaymanwitt Screen door is pretty much eliminated.
@@jaymanwittwarning: there are some headset with displays that are faulty. I have never noticed the screen door effect on my quest 2. But on the quest 3 I noticed a very very strange pattern across the whole screen anytime there is a white background. I also have what is either a dead pixel or a knick on the lenses.
Other than that what this video demonstrates is accurate. It’s absolutely insane how good PCVR looks on this thing. I never realized my PC was capable of such sharp visuals, the quest 2 was holding it back. Honestly really blown away despite the problems.
@@musashidanmcgrath but it was allready nearly eliminated on Quest2 ,is different really good from q2 to q3 ??Im still not Sure if i want change from q2 to q3 ,
@@kralkrauterblach414 Well for me the difference is huge. I was very disappointed with Quest 2, and I was dubious of the quality improvement claims of Q3, but I'm very impressed with the difference.
which head strap are you using?
It looks like you removed the facial interface with the new strap you got. The thing I miss the most about the quest pro was the open interface...
How's the strain on the PC considering everything is being compressed through the USB C port rather than a display port?
What does it mean “using it as a PC headset? Thought it was standalone? I'm thinking about getting it but I don't have a PC...
Coming form Q2 then the Pico 4, the Quest 3 has what i missed on the Pico 4 when it comes to PCVR, because it has more power, you can run 120Hz. which just feels much smoother, bigger FOV, sharper, and with virtual dekstop you get the new AV1 codec, which together with a RTX card works great, i benchmark in what i see mostly and you can see and feel it all when playing No Limits rollercoater simulator, and for the first time since i started VR it FELT smooth! Meaning not choppy! This is meanly because of the 120 Hz. but also the power of the Q3. And it will probably become even better with WIfi7 coming next year!
I have a quest pro not sure if i should even bother with 3
5:00 Great video and info! Just curious though, how did you manage to get your Bobo strap attached? That's the biggest thing I miss from the quest 2 is the BOBOVR M2 Pro strap; I had heard Bobo was going to release a pro strap or adapter kit for quest 3, but I checked the Bobo site and its just a tantalizing, "Coming soon"
Edit: Never mind, I see its released just sold out! Still, great video! 🙂
Hey Beardo! Do you have to setup the quest 3 in dev mode, similar to q2?
You try No Limits 2 yet? If you like rollercoaster, I would give it a try, definitely worth it and fun. Might make you a little sick in the stomach though. There are thousands of rollercoasters you can download from around the world.
I see alot of RUclipsrs wearing the Bobo with the Quest 3 YET the website hasn't released a Bobo for Quest 3 yet. Are you using the M2 on the Quest 3? If so, did it just snap right on or did you have to jerry rig it? I'd like to get a Bobo that fits the Quest 3. Looks like others are asking the same question.... let us know.
There’s a 3d printer adapter for quest 2 to 3 you can find on printables. I’m gonna print mine when I get home. I’ll update on the fit
Thanks, I'll look it up. Bought a printer a year ago. Still curious if there's a actual Bobo for Quest 3 or is it still on it's way. Just curious how he is using his in the video.
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@@CrazyUncleDrew it’s on Amazon but currently unavailable. So probably coming really soon
@@CrazyUncleDrew they didn't have enough. a few straps they had got sold out super quick and are on end of October/November delivery dates according to some people. So they didn't have enough to deliver straps for everyone. It might be a while before they restock significant quantities. Again that's based on some people feedback. So my assumptions can be wrong and they may restock sooner than that.
Thanks man, makes sense. I had a feeling they may have sold out knowing the Quest 3 was coming out. I just found out about the BOBO. I had a PSVR and Quest 2 and both killed my head, gave me headaches and never could get into it. I will say that with the Quest 3 I played it for the first time last night and never got motion sickness or a headache and not sure if it's a combo of better resolution and FOV and strap or what. Can't wait to try the BOBO.@@chadef555
Sorry if this was answered elsewhere, but why Virtual Desktop over Airlink? What update/settings in VD makes it better than Airlink? I know some people have success with one over the other, I've never had an issue with airlink.
I might be wrong but i think i heard somewhere that there was a update on Virtual Dektop that was aimed on Quest 3 connection and perfomance etc.
@@murphyjackson5873 interesting i'll have to research unless someone can confirm
I know for one that VD has a mode where it lets the Snapdragon of the Q3 do some kind of superresolution thingy, making your anti aliasing look better at no performance cost of the PC's GPU. On Pico 4 and Quest 2 this worked till high resolution streaming (something round 2500x2500 I believe), but on Q3 it works for ultra and godlike resolution as well (3000, 3400).@@murphyjackson5873
@@murphyjackson5873thanks for the answer. Air link works flawlessly on my quest 2. If I get 3 I was curious to see if it'll work just as good.
Virtual Desktop supports AV1 and some other nifty features that Air Link doesn't just yet.
Awesome video...question are you running wireless on this or wired? How much difference is thereimage wise. Thanks
All of my screens are oled (My chromebook, my tv, my pc monitor) If the Quest 3 only had oled I would have gotten it for sure!
I really need to finish HL: Alyx. I haven't used my Quest 2 in months. Quest 3 is pretty impressive. I spent all my dosh on my PC upgrade. :D
Why is the image shaking so much? Is his head shaking or are these tracking problems?
Can I ask if you have Virtual desktop installed on your PC or in the headset? I have an Oculus link cable but would prefer to go wireless
I'll be upgrading from a rift S that I've never had controllers for. I've been playing racing and flying games exclusively and the tunnel vision is atrocious. Can't wait for it to get here.
Would being wired with the official link cable look slightly better? I don’t care about the cable being in the way because I have the kiwi pulley system
I don't think it's long enough to use in that pulley.
no it still compresses the stream. you just get 5-8ms less latency from not using wifi
It's so clear using virtual desktop that I haven't connected the cable at all. But I think I'm able to use the highest codec having a 4000 series Nvidia card.
You can set the bitrate up to 960Mbps, it looks way better
@@corvidconfidential8826 the official Link cable is long enough and that’s what I always use through the pulley
Did you remove the face gasket? Does it increases the FOV?
Half Life Alyx is precisely why I cannot get a non-OLED HMD. I had to stop halfway through the game because the blacks were way too grey, so I'm skipping it and waiting for the Deckard. Also, no eye tracking makes it obsolete with no foveated rendering in its future.
Great video, what settings are on Virtual Desktop though? I've tried tweaking and have a 4090 and 7900X3D and a great 3gbps connection with a wifi 6E router next to me and still can't get it to run consistently well.
I have it on the AV1 10bit and Godlike but I'm not sure if there's even more settings I need to adjust.
I impulsively got a quest 2 and I will soon get q3 because I have wanted it for pc gaming for VR I like the games quest provides but want the best quality I can afford the whole set up process annoying will it be eiser to set everything up on 3 now I set up the quest 2 and downloaded things needed it was stressful for me to set up
Great video, I’ve got a 4090 and the Q3 headset. Do you Recommend VD or wired using the Oculus link? Wonder what is better
Wireless connectivity is priceless for me
is it worth upgrading from a rift s to a quest 3?
Oi! Where did you get the bobo vr adaptors from! Can't find them anywhere online!
Am I seeing right that you don't have the face cushion on? I was wondering if I could do this as I play racing sims with Rift S and without the face cushion. Doesn't really brake immersion and I don't get as hot. I suppose you need a 3rd party headstrap to be able to do this?
Would it look better plugged directly into the pc?
Can you now squeeze the can now since the Quest 3 has a secondary pressure point on the trigger or grip?
I know you already are giving us some good stuff - but may I ask for a Cyberpunk 2077 look?
Yeahhh, Luke Ross VR mods is where it's at!!!
I just wish there was some level of motion controls. Tough ask though
I’ve been limping along with a Frankensteined Rift S, tempted to get one of these simply to shackle to my pc. But I’m worried my network might not handle wireless well. Do you get as impressive results when tethering with a link cable?
How do you play MSFS with Virtual Desktop if you have the Microsoft Store version? I couldn't find info on that.
I have a HP Reverb G2, unfortunately the first edition they released, whose controllers weren't reliable enough. I wonder if the Quest 3 could be considered an upgrade apart from the controllers.