WATCH LIVE: Parkland School Shooter Penalty Phase Trial - Day 6
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2022
- Florida man faces trial for a catastrophic school shooting, but before he does, he must face jurors for a battery case. Prosecutors say that’s Parkland School Shooter, 23, on footage rushing a Broward County jail guard in November 2018. Jury selection is scheduled to start Tuesday, Oct. 5 at 9:30 a.m. ET. Opening statements are scheduled for Oct. 18.
The Shooter is the person facing 17 counts of first-degree murder, and 17 counts of attempted first-degree murder for opening fire at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Broward County, Florida on Valentine’s Day 2018. Then 19, he was a former student there. While awaiting trial at the Broward County Jail, he attacked one of the guards, say, prosecutors. In the Nov. 13, 2018 incident, the guard told him not to drag his sandals on the floor, prosecutors said. The Shooter flipped him off, and, as clear from the video, rushed him and struck him. He initially had the upper hand, but the guard regained control, and The Shooter eventually gave up.
17 people died in the high school shooting: 14-year-old student Alyssa Alhadeff, 35-year-old teacher Scott Beigel, 14-year-old student Martin Duque Anguiano, 17-year-old student Nicholas Dworet, 37-year-old assistant football coach Aaron Feis, 14-year-old student Jaime Guttenberg, 49-year-old athletic director Christopher Hixon, 15-year-old student Luke Hoyer, 14-year-old student Cara Loughran, 14-year-old student Gina Montalto, 17-year-old student Joaquin Oliver, 14-year-old student Alaina Petty, 18-year-old student Meadow Pollack, 17-year-old student Helena Ramsay, 14-year-old student Alexander Schachter, 16-year-old student Carmen Schentrup, and 15-year-old student Peter Wang.
Officials arrested The Shooter shortly after. Interview footage showed him insisting a voice in his head told him to carry out the shooting. He called it the “Demon.”
“Personally, I think you’re using the demon as an excuse,” said Broward County Sheriff’s Detective John Curcio.
The Shooter’s defense has not disputed that he is responsible. They have been trying to save him from the death penalty.
[Booking photo via Broward County Jail]
#ParklandSchoolShooter #JailGuardBattery #PenaltyPhase
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14-year-old student Alyssa Alhadeff,
35-year-old teacher Scott Beigel,
14-year-old student Martin Duque Anguiano,
17-year-old student Nicholas Dworet,
37-year-old assistant football coach Aaron Feis,
14-year-old student Jaime Guttenberg,
49-year-old athletic director Christopher Hixon,
15-year-old student Luke Hoyer,
14-year-old student Cara Loughran,
14-year-old student Gina Montalto,
17-year-old student Joaquin Oliver,
14-year-old student Alaina Petty,
18-year-old student Meadow Pollack,
17-year-old student Helena Ramsay,
14-year-old student Alexander Schachter,
16-year-old student Carmen Schentrup,
and 15-year-old student Peter Wang.
Remember them and their names.
May they all rest in eternal peace.
if you read this, please upvote ⬆⬆
Jesus Christ cover all them with the blood of Jesus
@@wildcheifha4694 Jesus let them get covered in their own blood, actually.
14 years old...babies...I cannot fathom.
The fact that Peter still managed to run down the hallway and hold the door for other fleeing people as he was already shot just shows how strong and brave he truely was
Peter took 13 bullets my God that is so . Heartbreaking! N.C. is a heartless monster He makes me sick.
I said the exact same thing
@@charlottelovato5770 it‘s definetely overkilling. He was full of hate at that time.
⏰Time stamps⏰
43:19 judge enters and audio begins.
50:00 Justin Colton- Student injured
56:10 Miguel Suarez- Crime scene unit for sheriffs office
1:10:46 sidebar
1:12:23 Suarez continues
1:28:14 cross
1:31:20 Laura Zecchini- Uber driver that took the killer to school.
1:31:35 cross
1:47:38 redirect
1:50:35 recess
2:25:58 Sergeant Gloria Crespo- crime scene detective at time of massacre
2:47:27 rifle, rounds, vest, magazinesput into evidence
Thank you M Willis! I’m currently using your time stamps for day one of the Brooks trial, lol. You’re the best! 👍
oh we have cross for the first time since trial started
@@margob6203 you are welcome!
I am grateful, too, that these parents have each other to grieve together and have some kind of solace in each other. I have 3 children now in early 20s, who were in HS at the time of shooting and I cannot IMAGINE the horror.. God Bless everyone involved. Such unspeakable tragedy
Such amazing control exhibited by every human in that room, while listening to the horrific testimonies of the medical examiners, to not leap out of their seats and tear the shooter’s head off. I especially feel for parents in the very back. The grief on their faces brought me to tears. They are in my prayers tonight.
Difficult days for the families. Nobody should have to live with this much pain. Heart breaking. We are all with you and thinking of you every day.
I don’t know a single person even remotely associated w this situation, and yet this video was incredibly tough for me to watch. I cannot even fathom how it must be for the actual parents+family members sitting there having to hear all of this… wow. Such strength. But that pain has to be indescribably brutal.
Same, I can safely say I am little traumatized by this trial, I can't imagine what these families have been through and will still go through until this guy is put down.
I am watching and thinking that each day as well. Poor families. 😞
If lost loved ones because of old age or disease but never murder.
This must be a whole new level of pain.
@@twistedyogert - Raw and impossible to process- heartbreaking 💔.🐨🇦🇺
I am watching this today as a tribute to the victims and the parents The suffering is so vast, It is almost unbearable to try to comprehend your pain but it’s all I have to offer in this moment of disbelief
My heart breaks for all victims and families involved, especially the last child mentioned here, Peter Wang. Extent of his injuries were absolutely gruesome and hopefully he, like the others, went quickly and that their families will somehow find some form of closure for healing 🙏🙏🙏
I salute those parents in the courtroom every day reliving this horrible nightmare.
I'm a seasoned true crime fan and I'm telling you this case has given me literal nightmares, my true crime days might even be over after this overdose of horror.... I don't think there is any doubt he will get the death penalty and in this particular case, I think it's necessary for all thos families to have any sense of justice and try to move on finally. The fact he is still around and building 12 has been preserved intact for 4 years for the purpose of this trial, it's like all these people have been frozen in time with it. They need to put this guy down and demolish that building once and for all so these parents can have a chance for closure.
I hope they can.
I wholeheartedly agree.
I would think the jury would be insulted and infuriated at his pretend meek act, the coloring, doodling, covering his ears. He will get death
The building is scheduled to be torn down and replaced with a memorial. They definitely need to pick up the pace on it, though.
@@kellymcginnis8631 I think the doodling at this point is the last of his problems
@@CreatEr1n it will be cathartic for those families to see it fall.
Hearing the wounds are heartbreaking poor Peter Wang he was massacred badly wow
My heartfelt condolences to the parents and the families of the victims…. This is so so sad. Noone should go through this pain…
This is a very difficult time for those who are testifying and those families that lost loved ones. May god give you all patience, Strength and some closure when this is all done. I can only imagine how tough it may be for all you who were impacted by the shooting. So many lives lost for no reason, they DID NOT DESERVE THIS!! I pray for all of you.
Tears for the 17 innocent victims that was so brutally shot many times to death,
Prayers for the parents and families to find justice so that they may find small peace. Respect for 17 survivors for testifying for justice. Showed they were still recovering from the wounds and traumas.
Just broke my heart and was shedding tears during the survivors testimonies.
I was left in shock from the detailed explanations of how the 17 innocent victims died.
Hearing the terror, the gunshots that sounded like explosions and their screams is unreal. Those poor families, and those poor people who were taken. This kid deserves every horror that can come to him in prison.
Those are sounds that I never want to hear outside a firing range.
I remember that a few years ago I was at church and after the service I heard similar sounds. I started running away thinking that it was gunfire. Luckily it only was a car backfiring. It really freaked me out.
My heart is with the parents, sending love
My heart goes out to these parents to hear this see their faces tells is everything how they are feeling
They have to figure out the volume of the mics. Some people sound like they’re a mile away and the flipping of pages of documents is piercing at times…
I feel so much empathy for the parents.
My worst nightmare every day
reading Max's and Fred's twitters and seeing them daily especially is heartbreaking
such incredible fathers who don't deserve this
His parents are dead, both biological and adopted.
This kid was targeted by our government and was a victim himself of mkultra and the voice of God technology.
I feel empathy for our nation who lacks understanding.
@@kelseylandon1224 oh now they got some actors pretending to be his parents? Cool
@@WeThePeopleWW Max and Fred are Jamie and Alex's (victims) fathers..
Full of admiration for the people giving their testimony - I would imagine for most of them it's reliving the worst day of their lives, but it's so good to see how many of them have moved on and are succeeding in life, despite the physical and mental scars. The judge is super cute too.
Its horrifying to listen to the explanation of the medical examiners. I can't even begin to imagine seeing those photos. And and to know these families had or choose to listen to this just have been excruciatingly painful. I don't know if they were allowed to see they the video or even those photos I hope not. But regardless I hope that every person affected by this atrocious tragedy will get the help and support they still need and will need for years to come. And that they may find some sort of peace.
My deepest condolences go out to all the families and friends of everyone affected by this tragedy🙏💙 I'm glad to know they're supporting each other cause it really is very traumatizing and I'd hate to see anyone suffering in silence. Much love to you all 🤗❤
So heartbreaking.. My thoughts and prayers go out to the parents 🥲🙏❤️
Thoughts and prayers are noble but something needs to change.
@@twistedyogert Agreed! More stringent and comprehensive gun regulation as well as more emphasis on mental health.
They have had some very good witnesses and I look forward to see who they will have tomorrow on the witness stand and what happened to all those 14 students and 3 teachers may they all Rest In Peace and he will hopefully get what he deserves when this trial is over but it will be awhile since they just started and this was day 6.
How sad for the victims and their parents
It's hard to see the parents crying while they're hearing the autopsy reports of their dead children.
These poor families. They are so strong. God bless. I hope the can find comfort.
Hoping counselling is offered for family members
the truth is very unfortunate what the victims went through
This was a tough afternoon to hear what the victims went through.
Why what did they talk about?
@@dogwithsombrero6498 mainly about the autopsies of the victims
@@dogwithsombrero6498 Describe how victims die horribly and hopelessly.
Hard for the parents to listen too... my condolences to each parent. 😢😥
Why even bother with a trial he should be hung in public like today
My heart goes out to the parents.
It was nice to see them sitting, talking, and even smiling together before the trial began today. I’m happy to see they’ve found solace and support with each other…and I truly believe their kids would be proud of them. I hope they find justice and resolution with this trial, and that they continue to stay connected afterwards too.
The poor parents having to see their kids like this again. Nicolas Dworet looked just like his mom. I wish I could give her a hug.
Just one of these injuries is horrific but 34 people's injuries is beyond comprehension outside of war.
I’m glad the families can sit and laugh they are forever connected
They need to make that murderer look at every single autopsy photo, not keep his head down.
Why is this murderer allowed meds to keep him calm and a pen and paper? He should have to sit there fully conscious and listen to what he did to each and every person here!
i agree 100%. they are also feeding him good . he has gained a lot of weight and on top of that given meds and paper and a pen is just sad. no convicted killer should get no special treatment
@@dennmod24 yep! And don’t forget that his pathetic waste of air said he can’t even watch TV now (in his so called statement). Sick!
I agree, also allowing him to have a pen?? at any moment this monster can go try to stab someone before or once the verdict is read aloud.
because denying him medication which he has been prescribed would be an obvious breach of his rights and grounds for a mistral. and a pen and paper is his right under the first amendment. in a fair trial he must be allowed to have the tools to make notes etc. and if he chooses to doodle instead they can’t stop him as long as it’s not disruptive. he could argue he’s making visual aids to help him understand and remember what’s going on etc. plus this allows the jury to see his true remorseless nature. forcing him to hide that would only work in his favour in the end. let the jury see him for who he really is
He’s screwed either way so who cares
Please let there be closure to those affected by this horrific incident.
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Greeting StarFox👊. I totally agree with your comment.
From Denmark 🇩🇰🤪
@@serenityx8927 er du en jente?
I understand defence is a vital part of any trial. I have begun to have great distain for this defence team. They frankly make me sick.
They don't make me sick. But who are they fooling by objecting to nearly everything? The jurors must think they look super dodgy trying to hide everything.
If you have to hide everything, then you know its terrible (which is obvious to everyone).
I agree. But honestly I'm looking forward to hearing what they will say that could possibly mitigate what their POS client did.
@@denisew3631 agreed I'm interested to see if the defense is trying to pull any and every "mentally challenged", autistic, orphan, not-in-his-right-mind, drugs and "demons" card they can. Since day one I have seen nothing else but cold and calculated long term planning of someone who just wanted to become "the next top school shooter". Absolutely deserving of immediate death sentence
They’re just doing their jobs.
God help all those people ,I don’t know how they keep going
Knowing that Peter Wang was running away as he was shot, and imagining that he begged for his life as the shooter stood over him and prepared to shoot him in the head is unbearable. He was hunted.
I pray that man with the scowl will someday smile again.
I can’t imagine his pain.
Same 😞
His name is Max Schachter. His 14 year old son, Alex Schachter, was killed in the shooting. He has been at the trial every day since it started. :(
There are a ton of comments about the families “ HAVING to sit in the courtroom with the monster…” but the reality is that they don’t HAVE to…they have chosen to be there to represent their loved ones who were hunted down and massacred by this evil psychopath ( he actually videotaped himself saying he wanted to kill 20 people and everyone would hear his name on the news) but they don’t HAVE to be there- which makes their decision to be there even more courageous….that is my point. I understand their NEED to be there and I think they are all beyond brave to be there, especially the ones who opt to stay during the Medical Examiners testimony…that must be incredible torture and it’s taken over 4 years to get to this point….this must be reopening the deeply painful reminders of that day that I’m sure they have all worked hard to get past….having lost a daughter myself almost 19 years ago I can honestly say that some days I cry and feel awful gut wrenching pain and some days I’m okay….many of these parents and students have used their grief to work hard to get gun laws changed despite hitting wall after wall….5 days before Uvalde, which is only an hour and half from us, I was picking up my daughters from school and we went into full lockdown and as I stood in a darkened silent hallway with other parents we were told there were two armed men on the campus….it was the most terrifying 45 minutes of my life as my daughters texted me they were blocking the door with bookshelves and desks…and hiding in a corner…..the Principal of the high school, with over 4000 students stood beside me in that dark hallway apologizing to us because he “had never experienced this before and didn’t know what he should be doing…” that was kind of concerning to me…..but then it was changed to one gunman and then just like that, lights went on and we were told it was over and safe….we never actually found out what happened but I was terrified for my daughters….I can’t even begin to imagine what these families, teachers, and the whole community went through that day…..and honestly-if the tragedy of Sandy Hook didn’t change any gun laws…I’m afraid nothing will.
I feel so bad for those jurors, why on earth was it decided they would not be provided some kind of therapy...Just hearing about those wounds has traumatized me I can't imagine seeing them :(
They'll definitely be able to get therapy after the trial, at the very least. It would be extremely unethical and probably illegal it they are somehow not able to. It really sucks that they probably can't during it though. I'm sure it's standard that any jurors can't get therapy during trials :-(
@@kem2271 unless maybe it's 1 court appointed therapist that they could confide in, but the therapist would have to be very unoppinionated towards the criminal. but maybe they are offered it. who knows. I can't imagine having to see all that.
I sat in on a murder trail in Broward County, same courthouse, years ago as a juror. Nothing as horrific as this but yes you have to sit through all of it without showing emotion. The autopsy photo images stay with you for a long time. Along with the physical evidence like the clothing the victim was wearing, etc. You see all of it. They even left all the evidence with us to review as we deliberated. No they don't offer you any counseling. You were called upon and agreed to do a civic duty no matter how difficult (at least that's what they tell you). During jury selection they do ask potential jurors questions like would you be able to handle objectively the presentation of all the evidence. Some people said that they couldn't handle seeing blood as a way of getting out of being selected. I remember the judge after several people tried to use that as an excuse said that it wouldn't automatically excuse you especially since they don't disclose in detail exactly what the case is about. I remember after reaching our guilty verdict all the emotions of what I/we the jurors went through just hit me. There were huge news cameras in the courtroom as the verdict was read. When we were dismissed and left the courtroom the press surrounded us in the hallway trying to get a comment. We all huddled together and made our way out to the elevator. I went to my job which was close by after we were dismissed and just broke down with a coworker because I was finally able to discuss the case. Most of the people close to me knew what case I was on because it did get local news coverage but no one approached me about it until after. A few years later I got called in for jury duty a second time. When I was interviewed for another trial they asked if you've ever served before and if you were able to reach a verdict. I told them yes I did and honestly said I could not emotionally handle being put on another jury case like that again. I got dismissed from one trial selection but ended up being selected for a drug case that same day. I've been picked to sit on a jury every single time I had to report for jury duty. As bad as the gorry details were what was most upsetting was seeing the victims family. The pain and despair they suffered through each day. I still remember the cries from both the victim's and the murderer's (her husband) family when the word GUILTY was read. The experience is nothing like what you see in movies and television. My heart and prayers go out to the families and friends of all the victims and the those brave jurors.
@@nikkijackson4419 Thank you for sharing this
@@kem2271 Of course they can get therapy after the trial, my point is the government should pay for it. They traumatize them and then send them home with a pat in the back :(
When you hear about wounds and the impact externally and internally from those crazy looking bullets that the monster used to inflict death and destruction to the innocent bodies of the dead and the injured, it is so sad beyond words. These bullets are fierce, causing so much damage. I feel so sorry that these families have to go through listening to how their loved ones were ripped to shreds from such an intense piece of weaponry. This is a trial on a whole other level...my god
Most people are going to think I'm joking but why don't they make those bullets like $1,000 each that way losers like this guy could have never bought any in the first place
It's nothing short of a horror story what those bullets are capable of...it just adds a whole new level of horror to the whole ordeal. To think the same bullets were used on the Uvalde children, it's terrible, no need for those kinds of bullets to be sold/used anywhere other than the military, not even for animals. They are too cruel.
Blame the criminal, not the tool.
@@fernandaolivares7926 All bullets are meant to kill. Tell me you have never operated a firearm or have any working knowledge of them.
@@NeoMaxim
So?
Any truly virtuous person is willing to be lethal when appropriate.
What if we made a law that yearly mental evaluation for fire arm owners?
All of the injuries these kids sustained are horrific but to hear Peter Wang was shot 12 times and sustained some of those before the fatal head wounds makes me sick, and heartbroken. I was hoping it was fast, but sadly this poor baby suffered. May he and all of the victims rest in peace. These angels deserved so much better. Prayers are not enough for these families anymore. Gun control needs to happen, NOW. Not yesterday, not tomorrow, now. No one needs an AR15. I sincerely hope these families can somehow find healing and peace.
But with gun control illegal firearms will be smuggled into the USA and there will be no control of illegal firearms. which can be sold using shady sources for sales
Put the mike closer to the seated. They shouldn't have to lean forward like that.
I love how the defense said a couple days back he's already played goatee so I don't know why we have to go through all of this. Because the jury needs to see who he did this to and the items that he used.
Rip to those who passed on during the shooting. Rip young slobe too 🕊🕊
Wow this is across the world news im from Croatia feels sad for the victims.
How is it possible and for what reason would this rifle be sold to a 19 yr old. SERIOUSLY
He was 17- even worse
money talks and the arms industry has plenty of money
Datz Murica for ya
Hearing about the damage caused to these victims and actually seeing the weapon and mass amounts of magazines & ammunition. He makes me sick he protected his ears though smh. I wish him the absolute worst punishment what disgusting horrible unspeakable acts to commit. So sorry for all the families effected by this tragedy that never had to occur. ❤️🥺
The worst punishment would be death. Hopefully he'll feel the same pain and fear his victims did.
Or alternatively he'll get life behind bars and other prisoners will know what he did and hopefully they'll give them their version of justice.
Amen… vile isn’t enough to describe this monster. I read a timeline the other day, in regards to mass murder. It has me asking more questions about how fast police respond. What damage he could have done had the police waited longer, like in Uvalde.
Expedite the death penalty with cases like this, shhh with ALL death penalty cases, save the states millions and millions of dollars, and re allocate that money to school security and protection.
to be honest a valid punishment would be spending life in prison in addition to providing aid to schools as reparations
@@davidp6913 What your saying is this state pay even more money, smh. Life in prison is not justice one bit, he will live three meals a day, medicare and protective custody until he dies, all while the state pays for all this, for a pos like him immediate or expedite death is the only REAL justice. People like this do not deserve to breathe. If it was expedited the state would have money for the school and the affected family's.
@@davidp6913 death penalty would be worse because you spend most of it on death row which is harsher conditions than normal prison
@@davidp6913 honestly Nikolas wanted to live not like other shooters that's why he tried to blend with the students with his JROTC shirt so I think DP it's the best punishment
Perfect my thoughts exactly .
this battery case certainly seems to show he has no remorse for his actions and attacking a jail guard while IN JAIL for his crimes is sickening beyond belief.....he should have no freedom to walk around and exercise whatsoever.
I truly believe he's pretending to be a lunatic. That "exercising" that he did in jail looked weird, completely different from the regular movement he had in Walmart footage. At stoneman Douglas and Walmart, he moved confidently, fast-paced and like a normal person. Since then his movement has looked awkward and clumsy, like trying to appear incompetent
Why can’t the courts get audio/visual systems that are 21 century compatible? Once again, this court room, if you are not on top of the microphone there are problems with hearing you. Number of witnesses were told to basically get right on top of the mics because when they were in normal sitting position they could not be heard.
It's not without costs.
@@halcyon2017 we are in 21 century, quality audio/video systems are not expensive any more, besides a/v is a crucial system necessary for courts. They can get away with lower quality benches, chairs etc. but not with crucial systems.
@@valczer I feel as though it's more important to have quality benches because families of victims already have so much to deal with when listening to testimonies.
Perhaps they allocate the funds differently.
@@halcyon2017 Im sure they can afford both in quality lol for some reason, courts love to use a/v systems from the 80s last century 🙂
To me it is very disrupting when every “few” minutes you hear “please sit closer to the microphone and speak directly into it”, “we can’t hear you, speak into the mic” etc.
@@valczer The judge did mention something at one point about there being new technology and them needing to get used to it. I wonder if that could be part of the problem with the sound. I have watched quite a few trials, and this courtroom definitely doesn't have the worst audio that I've heard.
“I didn’t want him to swallow the microphone” haha I love him.
I praise the person who change the defendant’s picture to the students he took their lives,who are recognize were taken away far too soon.
Watching the replay. To the killer: How dare you sir? Hide from families, placing your hands over your face, acting like a victim during testimony. You bragged on social media a couple of weeks before your mass crime that you would be the school shooter of 2018. You got your wish. Have the guts to stand behind your actions, take accountability for what you did. I am just a RUclips armchair amateur. But I grew up through RFK, MLK, Kent State Shootings.
We can see right through you.
To EVERYONE IN CHAT! This penalty phase WILL BE 4 MONTHS LONG! Why is everyone saying,” He’ll be sentenced next week..” ?? 4 months long = 16 weeks. This phase will NOT be ANY shorter than 16 weeks long.
Content to watch then more
However long it takes as long as the victims the survivors and their families to receive the justice they deserve. This happened 4 years ago they waited that long for this to finally happen
@@laurenstevens9544 yes, I agree but this penalty phase will be EXACTLY 16 weeks long. So annoying to see every comment asking,” is it over next week?”
If this judge ran things efficiently, it would end in a reasonable amount of time. By efficiently, I mean full days that start on time with scheduled breaks that are time-limit enforced. Dragging this out is cruel to the victims, families, witnesses, jurors, and court staff.
@Chris Legit Right and the defense hasn’t even done their opening statement yet! It will be interesting to see how much evidence they produce. My assumption is it will be focused on his birth mother and his mental health issues.
Why is this court case so many days why can’t he just be sentenced ? Nobody else has a court like this I don’t get it
In Florida I believe when it is a death penalty they have to show how horrific the crime was. Obviously That’s not the real terminology but they have to prove he deserves death
@@Justwatching7777 oh thank you, but others have been on death row or killed less and got life and court didn’t take this long with him killing so many and injuring so many you would think he would get the death Penalty straight away
I wonder were the janitor room in floor 2 was where Taylor was safely hiding the whole time instead of calling a call red or warning kids on the 3rd floor.
I also wonder when he got out...
This must be hard for the family
For then constantly telling the people to sit closer to the microphone you sure can hear every little paper movement and water pour.
Even with all this evidence of premeditation, suffering, and brutality, the jury still didn't care. Anyone who values human life so little that they feel sympathy for a mass murderer, is a danger to the civilized world.
This is so devastating
No time stamps today?
Wish that when it’s live you can also leave comments b c I can’t keep up reading the live comments in real time and am watching this now that it’s not live and love to read the comments but since it just ended live there are very few comments and it’s driving me nuts
Trust me, you don't want to read the comments on the live chat. Full of misogynistic comments about the judge and mocking the medical examiner's accent.
@@nr3858 agreed, most of it is garbage
I have to give the victims Famillies alot of credit. For them to have to sit in that courtroom with the lunatic who murdered there child is unreal. I honestly could not hold my composure had it been my child. I don't think there is anything worse than this. My heart breaks for all of them. The evilness in this world is disturbing! God be with all of whom are going through all this pain. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Does this judge not know how to tell time? When she says a 15 minute break I kinda expected 15 minutes but it was actually 35 minutes. Yesterday's 15 minute break was over 3 hours. Couldn't figure that one out.
I think defense is trying to make it seem that because Cruz picked the Uber Pool option, he was hoping deep down that he would have to share the ride and that would’ve made him arrive at the school too late…? 🤔
For sure. More like he worked a menial job and picked the cheaper ride because of that. She felt he was anxious, not that he necessarily was and I mean he was probably nervous he would get caught before he did it because he surely didn’t look nervous after the fact. I mean he tried to fake being schizophrenic after he was caught. Who actually knows what is and isn’t an act with his mental health and if I were the state, I’d make a point of getting a psychiatrist and body language expert to break down that performance and show that he has faked mental illness.
So has the state been told to stop bringing in the victims to tell about their experience during that time in permanent wounds?
I don’t know why the defence lawyers are even bothering with these weak questions. He’s a dead man.
so that he can’t claim his defence didn’t try properly down the line. you can’t leave any stone unturned. he won’t be a dead man if he appeals the death penalty on the grounds his representation was insufficient and did not act properly in his interest
6:54:28 oh wow.. you can see peter wang’s face in the picture the prosector is holding 😪
😭😭😭😭
Is there anymore you noticed? I want rhe time stamps please
Why don't they just let the parents vote on what the punishment should be, and be done with it
Not the way the court works.
Bet it wouldn’t be unanimous
Some say death is the easy way out
Too bad we don’t allow torture camps
That’s what Nikolas asked for. However, the justice system does not work that way.
Why don't they ask why are these young men becoming so insane
Because it's a _good thing_ that we put the State in the middle so retributive cycles of "justice" can't start. People who take the law into their own hands, don't cooperate with police or the court, and handle it themselves, end up killing someone, who killed someone they knew, because they killed someone they loved, because someone was killed, because they're related to someone, who killed someone's son, who killed their brother, and on and on into eternity.
When the system functions as it should, if someone kills your brother, the State kills them. If you get to them and kill them first, the State kills you. No matter what, the State steps in to stop the cycle. It's a really beautiful part of our justice system.
Could you imagine seeing the very assault weapon that killed your child? Heartbreaking.
We don't need to see those pics, but he should have to look at everyone of them
He should have to listen/watch the recordings too. The way he always plugs his ears when they play them is beyond disrespectful. His victims had to be subjected to it against their will. He needs to be too.
He is preoccupied with guns, violence, gore, etc. He sneaks peaks at those photos. In fact, his demeanor changed on the day the first autopsy photos were shown. Before that, he continuously kept his head down, put his fingers in his ears and write notes to his lawyer. Once the photos started, he appeared more interested in things. He looked at the monitor in front of the lawyer next to him. At one point, the lawyer on his other side motioned for him to start writing.
I wonder if he will go to the school with jury to see the carnage he created. He should be mandated to go to see the blood, tissue and brain matter that is preserved there.
@@mariahenrich9602 that would be a Sheriff's nightmare for his transportation and security! He needs to be secured in a cell. And no, he does not need to see what did. He is preoccupied with guns and violence. He would probably enjoy seeing what his actions caused. For him, it would be a field trip. His defense team should waive his appearance for that.
People like him enjoy the destruction and carnage they leave after their violent crimes. If you watch him while autopsy photos are being shown to a witness, he lifts his head up and looks at the monitor in front of his lawyer. He actually looks at the photos. He doesn't stare for long, because that would be obvious. But he does look, even looks through his fingers.
he would enjoy that tho
That lady Sargent really knew her stuff 👍
Yes , she’s knowledgeable BUT she looks VERY uncomfortable
@@judithtaylor6192 She probably hasn’t seen all that evidence in 4 years. I think she was trying to remember what all the evidence was
It is devastating for anyone to testify..so much responsibility and having to relive each moment is horrible..
It bothered me that she missed identified Jamie as Meadow. I'm sure it hurt Jamie's family as well.
Sound begins around 43:25
Thank you!
Gotta love his serial killer glasses.
Is he literally showing his attorney what he is drawing or coloring like look mom how is that smh
Coloring is really good for you.
@@ryanmurphy5472 why even comment like that just don't say anything at all smh
I don't understand why we aren't able to see the exhibits. I've only been watching the trial here for 3 days and it's the first trial I have ever watched where we aren't allowed to see the exhibits.
Graphic evidence is hardly ever shown outside the courtroom at the time of a trial. Sometimes those in the public gallery can see it, but as in this case only the judge, the lawyers, the defendant, and the jury are able to view it. It’s rarely shown on on TV and streaming devices during a trial, but a lot of crime scene evidence eventually shows up on the web. I believe the judge made a specific ruling about it in this case because almost all the victims were minors.
Because the case involved many minors; most court cases that involve kids do not present the evidence publicly during trial. And it was probably to respect the wishes of the parents/families as well.
His hands should be cuffed behind his back during every moment of the trial. He isn’t required to read anything unless requested by the judge so take his glasses and the gd coloring book away!
State filed a motion to take away his colored pencils he’s allowed to have a notepad and pen court issued pen
Having him cuffed could be seen as biasing the jury.
not to mention how much they feed him, and they give him meds to calm down like seriously i don't understand the law sometimes
@@dennmod24 the meds are to keep him "calm" so he isn't disrupting the court and causing a scene. If he were to do those things, the bailiffs would have to drag him away which in turn would delay the trial because he has to be able to be there and participate in his defense. Otherwise we would have a mistrial and that wouldn't be fair to the families and victims to have it delayed and dragged out longer.
Coloring is really good for you.
I understand this is the penalty phase of the trial, but I'm slightly annoyed with law enforcement officers showing up half prepared to testify. There were 17 murder victims in total throughout the building . If you were assigned only a portion of the crime scene to investigate, it doesn't seem too much to ask for you to be able to correctly identify the names of the deceased in your sector. The Guttenbergs seem to be receiving insult upon injury, between the previous testimony of Jamie's 4th period teacher and Sergeant Crespo on the stand here.
It's becoming painfully clear as to why it's taken this woman so long to make sergeant.
Can anyone tell me why I can see subtitles when this was live but when i watch the recording the subtitles are not available? I'm deaf so I rely on subs. Thanks.
That's a shame. I rely on them as well (hard of hearing). I wonder if they have an IG or Twitter with open DMs to ask them? There is a new live on today, probably tomorrow, maybe ask during live if they can turn them on? Sorry about that.
I guess the prosecution isn't allowed to see any more pictures of the injuries of these kids that were shot. Really upsets me that the jury doesn't get to see the injuries of all the victims and hear about the disabilities they are left with
they do, it just wasn’t on this day; many of the survivors told their story and the jury was shown their injuries, and they were asked about the lasting impact
I feel so bad for nick’s parents 💔 hearing their son’s autopsy and how he died from a gunshot wound to the chest …
I believe they are both dead but he does have a brother... all genuinely unbelievably sad, I am in absolute disbelief that this can happen in the world we live in.
Nick’s parents are still alive
Life in prison is the high roller.. an eye for an eye
Death ☠️
Right after that verse- “But I say to you.....turn the other cheek” just saying
why are they objecting to every thing
My kinda court. Seems like they always on break when I look at video
Same with me.
They are going to drag this out as long as they can !!
good. if they don’t they might leave him room to have any sentence overturned. you can’t be too careful
I don’t understand what happens when they put the headphones on - they say side bar but then no one approaches the bench
they use the headsets to do sidebar
@@madisonnicoleedwards yes I understand that but I don’t know how - when they speak into mic wouldn’t people around them hear?
@@sherrytrimper3536 on one of the first few days the judge apologized to the jury and explained that they do that so no one can hear what they are communicating except them through the headphones to avoid having to make the jury leave constantly.
The guy plead guilty why you ask a ? People are gone never coming back 😒 bless those who have to go through this again 🙏
We should be able to see pics
You won’t be able to because they were minors at the time
Why would you want to?
They should pay per view the execution and give the money to the victim's families.
not sure i’d want money from people who use my child’s senseless murder as an excuse to satisfy their own bloodlust
The sad thing is in good old USA people would watch it. Shame
Every President and members of Congress should be sitting thru this and seeing what these horrible weapons do to a body, with the family of the young victims there watching this video of their dead children!!!!!! I can't even imagine what they are going thru. These weapons should be outlawed.
Nothing would be done probably, even then.
@@slaws2279 You are right, somehow we just aren't smart enough.
I'm glad they showed the rifle
what timelapse?
Where?
@@omachi21 2:47:30
Must be break time now!
Why wouldn’t the state accept live in prison? They wanted the death penalty ? I agree
Do you think the families had known the detailed cause of death?
They had the option. Regardless of circumstances, a person's next of kin gets access to their autopsy report. Whether or not they read it is up to them to decide.
Poor Peter! 😢