It’s basically the size of a mirrorless camera with the ability to use Canon’s vast EF-S lens lineup. I picked up an SL2 a couple weeks ago (with the 24mm f/2.8 and 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6) and I’m absolutely in love with it. The fully articulating screen is excellent, the UI is simple and intuitive, fantastic autofocus performance during video, having a microphone jack is incredible, and the sensor itself is just a damn good one too. Canon did a lot of good with the SL2, that will make it appeal to a wide variety of photographers & videographers.
im looking into upgrading from the sl1 (100D) because i need good quality video to shoot cinematic video for my youtube! do you think this camera is upto scratch? whats the video quality like (in 60fps too if you've tried it!) would love to hear more about the video capabilities :)
aidan flood On his behalf: Video in itself overall will be a big improvement for you in terms of DPAF, articulating LCD, 1080p 60p. But in terms of actual pixel-level, as in image image quality, there's not a huge improvement. Maybe a little less moire but not much else. Sorry if you want significantly better IQ you'll have to go for a newer 4K camera either from Canon or other companies. A perfect YT/Vlog camera with higher level IQ is the Panasonic GH4.
I'm not a beginner, but I am far from being anything close to a professional photographer. However, looking for a nice, small camera with good video to replace my aged Panasonic G6, and I really like the looks and feel of this. Not everybody who wants a small simple camera has to be a first timer.
The best reviews all over RUclips. Chris explains everything like he is talking to you and his opinions are very well based in facts.
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I had the SL1, sold it, but missed it, so bought another one, and the SL2 is so much better in everyway (save for the 9 point AF, which works OK, but is not going to win any awards). Those who lament that it is not a mirrorless don't get why it has the appeal it does: What it gives you, over any comparable mirrorless it outstanding battery life (compared to pure mirrorless), outstanding handling and ergonomics, the fact that everything just works, there are no stupid quirks that require firmware updates ad inifinitum, the flip-out screen, the touch screen, the image quality, the abundance of excellent EF-S and EF lenses, new and used and so on. There are cameras that have theoretically better image quality, better video, more features etc, but there are very few that are so well rounded, useable, and quite frankly likeable. It is also one of the cameras that you can stick in the hand of almost anyone and they will get great results. It's all of this I think that TCS also appreciate.
I had to do an emergency photo shoot with my wife's SL1. I used the 100m macro L and man, was I ever blown away with it. That was about two years ago, but I still have every thought in my head the body lineup is really good, dawgs.
With the same early 2000s autofocus system, no autofocus micro-adjustment, no Kelvin white balance, and no audio levels, it seems pretty handicapped to me.
That's a good way to look at this camera. It's a mirrorless camera with the option to use an optical viewfinder. When I used my SL1 I was usually shooting slowed down stuff like vacation photos. The fact is this camera is great for doing just that. You don't need an EVF or OVF to do that but having one or the other and a nice big screen would be great. For me, the SL1 became the perfect travel camera for a Canon shooter. I'll pick one up later this year.
I am glad you like both the SL1 and SL2. I regularly incorporate my SL1 in professional shooting jobs. You are young, so you may be forgiven for stating award winning nature and sports photography is not possible with only 5 FPS and 9 focus points. I would point out that Art Wolf published tons of books of the best wildlife photography using zero focusing points (he used manual focus) and the 3-4 FPS his motor drive could give him.
Peter Richey I use 7D II and 100D regularly on all payed jobs. No one can tell the difference, including me. Clients only notice a difference when they reach to the screen to pinch and zoom but the shitty 7D II doesn't have a touch screen. I may sell it and get this 200D instead. The 7D II is the biggest disappointment I had in a dslr.
They're also underestimating the power of "Center Point AF". You "Can" track birds in flight. It takes practice, but even the most basic Rebel AF system from five years ago is perfectly capable of keeping a Big White lens in-focus as long as you keep the subject on point (and the crop sensors generally give better detail on birds because of the higher pixel density).
But in rangefinders it was easier to manual focus. All you had to do was to align the circles. I find it very hard on my d3300 to nail focus at shallower DOF.
Bud The Cyborg they dont give better Detail, absolutely not, you just get closer, but if you get close enough with a fullframe Sensor, you get either the same or better sharpness, depending on the lens, and if that fullframe Sensor had 36-50mp you potentially get much more detail
A headphone jack??? Huh!!! I'm already surprised canon used the dual pixel af AND the articulated screen here. Canon usually adds one feature and takes away two. Asking them to also include a headphone jack is beyond wishful thinking.
For those considering this camera, just a small correction: The main dial on my SL2 is *not* made of metal, but plastic. This honestly doesn't matter but I purchased it believing it was. Still performs great!
Fantastic video, finally a camera review where they actually show you footage using the camera. Well done on keeping it straight to the point and simple.
I'm just scouting for my first decent standalone camera, I've only used flagship phone cameras & compacts till this point, after lots of research I'm going to plump for the SL2, it's seems like the best value for money. Intuitive menus, easy to use functions & good image quality, with room to grow with me as I become more confident 👍
This review has good points. Something missing is the fact that sl2 doesn't have anymore the eye sensor to auto shut down the LCD (sl1 does have it) but it sports a new display button. Also, 5 fps are also bogged down because of the very small raw buffer.
Funny you come to that conclusion because that is exactly what I have thought too. All that really seems to be missing to make Canon take the reviews back by storm is a hybrid OVF/EVF (Canon has a patent on such a technology) and decent 4K integration in their existent cameras. That's it! Mirrorless aren't really much smaller if you take into account the lenses. But Canon has that amazing DPAF and their bigger bodies balance much better with the FF lenses. So we might be just another generation away from another shift in the camera market.
Nice review guys. The SL2 is the camera I suggest to beginners more than any other, with the only "drawback" being the 9 pt AF system. Compared to the T6 it jsut kills it, offering more features and a more compact size with higher resolution and a better sensor for not a lot more money. Possibly the best first DSLR, at least in the Canon line up. And for video, it is exactly the same as the T7i and 77D, and just short of the 80D (80D has the headphone jack and a higher bit rate). I like to say that it is simple enough to learn on with enough features to still keep it useful once the basics have been mastered. Canon should give me a kick back every time someone buys one on my recommendation! Side note - something a lot of people are unaware of (especially beginners), the T6/T7 do not feature dual pixel AF and do not have silent STM support. If looking to do video mostly they are not good choices. The SL2, as I have said, is the same for video as it's more expensive brethren, and is a far better choice than the base models.
A lot of people are commenting on the focusing. The biggest thing I learned shooting wildlife on my t5i is that it's a must to use a camera with focus micro adjustments. I consistently missed focus because the camera is internally flawed. I wanted to so badly make manual micro adjustments to fix the problem (easy fix) but the camera did not allow me to. Other than that the centre point cross type AF is decent
As a retired professional with 45 years experience, the 200D us now my main camera. I'm a little surprised you refer to the video quality as being 'soft' - mine appears sharper than my previous Panasonic G80 & GH5, especially when I put my Sigma 24-105 ART on the front. I totally get your comment about it being a mirrorless that happens to have a mirror, and I shoot a LOT using the rear screen - both video AND stills.
Interesting review. By and large I find your reviews more interesting than the live shows that you have been doing recently, so I am pleased to see that you are still doing them.
Great pitch. I have owned t5i, without dual pixel auto focus, easy to use, great pictures, solid and reliable. this sl2 would be a great vlogging camera on the cheap....nicely done.
Thank you! That was extremely helpful. I just bought the sL2 as my first DSLR but have used the 7D and the Rebel xti that my mom used. It is a great camera for my needs right now and extremely customiable which I love.
+Rambalac Nothing to match with the Canon stills, just trying to get better at grading GH5 VLog. The previous episode was shot and graded by Levi Holwell, who likes a different look, but one I also really like. Jordan @ TCSTV
Chris great pictures you're getting with that Canon SL 2 great pictures of Jason and scenery it's a nice camera beautiful colors I'm really surprised 1080p looks great
Great job on this review. Thanks for actually shooting video with this camera and showing it off that way. Lots of reviewers seemed to think doing so was not important o.O
I've bought it recently and expected to rant a bit about it... but I simply love it. Sure I could nitpick, but for the price? I upgraded from oldish 450D - or downgraded when we follow the lineups, but everything about this one is simply better than 450D (as expected). I love video and time-lapse, of course - here I'd like to be able to make setting changes during the video, but that's OK. I like the menu, as mentioned in the review. This really has superb controls. Sure, I came from 9-point AF to... 9-point AF, but it works reliably as always - and live view/video AF (dual-pixel) is great too. There is hardly anything I can complain about - especially when the price is taken into account.
My biggest issue for entry level DSLR is the lack of AF finetune/micro adjust function. Sure, duel pixel AF sort of solve that problem, but when you want to conserve battery or shooting under strong sunlight, viewfinder is still pretty useful.
I still prefer the ergonomics of an dslr. I bought an xt-20. Great camera with all bells and wistles but its hard to adjust setting bec of the buttons layouts.
That's more of a Fuji problem than a non-DSLR problem, the X-T2 buttons are ridiculous, the AF-L and AE-L buttons are tiny, I have no idea why the hell they made them that small and recessed. I had to start using 'front button focus' because of how terrible the AF-L button is... now I have an A7R II and the buttons are much better
Hi! How long can I record video in Full HD without stop and overheating with SL2 and T7i (American or Canadian version)? More file is not a problem. It is important to make a continue video on a seminar for 4-5 hours. My question come from Europe, because all European DSLR cameras are limited with 30-minute video recording. Thanks for your answer. Parajdi from Austria/Europe
I’m so interested in canon and their colors. I’m currently shooting with a6300 but when I’m not using it on a gimbal and external monitor I really hate it, the display is more or less useless imo. What do you think of the sl 2 as I first canon camera, shooting mostly street stuff using the display?
Completely agree with Chris on this SL2. Nothing more annoying than seeing reviews that miss the point of a camera design entirely. Thank goodness they are all free to read :).
When the included vlog sample played i noticed that the audio included crowd noise. This is obvious since you were in the park. But how did you manage(Mic or editing) to remove the noise of this crowd from the rest of the video which you shot using your regular camera. Would love a suggestion.
Do you remember EOS 700D when it was classed as Advanced DSLR? Now 200D is classed as Entry DSLR and is better all way through. And it really does handle noise with DIGIC 7 magically well.
Love mine! Definitely upgrading at some point but paired with crazy range of the Canon EF-S lenses, it'll never not be in my camera bag (the size helps there). For people wanting a solid DSLR on a budget, you're getting the updated tech in the T7i and 77D, the same sensor as those + 80D, and Canon's entire EF-S and EF range of lenses. AF points are a bummer, but if you were about to buy a used Txi as an introductory camera, you now have something for the same price or less with updated features (save a couple fps). The 1080p60 is a nice feature as well! Absolutely not going to be using it for paid video gigs, but for family and other personal work, this is a great camera. They should be getting rid of lines, tbh though. With this and a whole mirrorrless lineup coming, the T7 looks pointless. Get rid of the 77D, definitively appropriate features on the SL-series, Txi series, and the x0D series, with the 7D line being a pro crop that can genuinely be used as a crop-favoring pro's main camera (and maybe get rid of the Rebel moniker to lessen placement confusion in the future). Less cameras with appropriate feature sets should be their goal so they can focus on each one and minimize outcry from consumers. That's just me, though. It takes the guessing game out of the equation and says "this is for this price point, that is for that," and all the teetering on the edge between one $100 differences is gone. This assumes, of course, that each camera gets the features they deserve in a way that makes sense. At that point, if people are going to switch to Sony, they were probably already going to do that. Here's to not messing up the mirrorrless line!
The observations here are really on point. I am in the market for a new camera to embark on some vlogging. Been seriously looking at the Panasonic G85 as a compact take everywhere camera but on top of the crappy autofocus, the wide angle zooms on any brand other than Canon are simply so expensive. The Panasonic 7-14mm runs $800 and the latest Leica 8-18mm runs $1200. Granted these are very high quality lenses. So I am back to Canon and looking at the 80d, T7i and 77d. I just don't think my wife will be as likely to stuff one of those into her handbag going to a party or restaurant or any other venue we might be inclined to vlog. So I think this might fit the bill for portability - it's light enough for selfie vlogging on the go, especially with a wide angle zoom like the EFS 10-18mm. And the price point on the various lenses I might use like a 10-18mm, 50mm, 85mm and 24mm pancake are so much easier on the wallet. I am seriously thinking of getting this, investing in Canon glass and then waiting for Canon to come out with 4K on the next iteration of the 80d/T7i/M6.
Firstly I would like to mention this was a pretty good review, 2nd Canada is a beautiful country, 3rd perhaps reviewer is right. In that the SL2 could be the start of a shift in the market. Is it seems people want to take their cameras everywhere and therefore need a smaller, lighter body !
I support you on your quest for the perfect VLOG-ing camera. Sounds like the SL2 is a stepping stone on the way, but I await your thoughts on the Olympus EM10 mark 3 as a vlogger.
I know this video is over a year and these guys have moved on, but I own this camera SL2 and love it, I bought to shoot video and as a second camera. I also use a EOS 7Dmkii as my main camera what I find amusing is that sometimes I use this as my main camera. Very light and easy to use, I use a Joby Wrist Strap and just hangs off my wrist until I need it, oh put it on a tripod and do a time-lapse movie. I use my 28mm 2.8 pancake lens a lot on it mostly I use the 18-55. I use the Rode VideoMicro when doing video (no batteries needed for the mic) and the battery last all day (most of the time) which is way better than my Sony a6000. headphone jack or lack thereof, I don't really miss it, my 7Dmkii has both mic and head phone jack I very rarely use headphones anyway Actually most of my video is on the SL2 my 7Dmkii is mostly stills but I occasionally shoot video with both to get different points of view.
Been using Canon for years, then I started using the Olympus mirrorless for photos and videos, often with vintage glass. I now prefer to use mirrorless. Tried using a Canon using the live view, and REALLY miss the IBIS which Olympus has. Looking to get this camera to use with my (now sitting not being used) Canon 85mm f1.2L ii, for videos and stills, but just can't imagine using it without IBIS. Canon NEED to make camera with IBIS!
For someone who is looking for a there first DSLR which would you suggest? This SL2 or the T6i? Especially for someone who will be using it for many different things both in video & photo like conventions & family moments including photographing sports.
Hey, Loved your video! I am looking for a nice camera to take on holiday to Italy with me to get some nice shots. Im not very clued up when it comes to cameras and this seems easy to use. would you recommend this camera? Or any other suggestions? Thanks!
What do you think about this camera vs the t5i or t6i or even the Panasonic g7?? I havint had a dslr before and I'm having a hard time deciding between the 4 cameras
Hey guys, just a suggestion: why don´t you use the same camera you´re reviewing to shoot your review? I believe many of us are interested in video these days, and a whole review shot with a certain camera would give us much more info about its real-life performance than having Jordan comment about it for a short time (if at all). I much rather see a camera fail miserably while shooting a simple review than have such a review shot with cherry-picked cameras from a completely different price bracket (such as the GH5), so the review looks "prettier". I believe this is simply unnecessary, and it´s giving us far less useful info about the camera you´re reviewing than it should, using the same amount of time/work. Thanks
Simple reason, we rarely have two cameras available for shooting an episode. In this episode, for example, we used the store's lone demo unit. Usually when we receive cameras early, we only see a single unit as well. When possible, we love to shoot the review on the camera being described, but it's rarely feasible. Also, I love the GH5 so damned much... Jordan @ TCSTV
Thanks for the clarification, Jordan.. In that case, it´s perfectly understandable. And the GH5 is a lovely camera... that missed the opportunity to give us something as effective as PDAF or Dual-Pixel so the non-pros can actually shoot video without worries. I don´t want a 2K camera that still has far worse video AF than my 3yo, el cheapo a6000. I want fun, not frustration... ;) Cheers mate!
Very informative and shed light on not only the good things about this camera but also the less than good things as well. haha I really like the effort put into the background, other side video clips, and how the focus is always brought back to the product being reviewed. A well done review. Enjoyable even if not for the camera review. :) #Subscribed Personal I plan to buy a SLI 2 because it seems like a great choice for starters. Plus it's a camera that is more budget friendly while not over compensating. I haven't bought it yet but it was nice to hear some critiques about what could be better on the SLI 2.
Hi there I am selecting from canon sl2, lumix g7 and lumix gx85. My purpose is to film concerts, rehearsals. I also have zoom h5 recorder for audio part. May be I will try to get some cash from that activity. And as well would like picturing some landscapes, some street photo, timelapses and may be vlogging in perspective. Thats more like hobby. So I would like to have something good in video but potentially versatile. What can you advice? I have no big budget.
Thank you for the review. I'm going to Italy and figure this is a perfect time to get a camera since I have been wanting one. Don't want to spend a ton... So, I'm wondering Nikon or canon SL2 or D3500 or os there something better for this price range
Hey please do reply - im looking to buy this camera for my videos & pictures. As im a beginner i need help. The camera fits my budget. As i would be talking & showing products ( would the focus help). Thanks
I like doing a bunch of different types of photography but I don't know if I should get this one however it has such a great price but I don't know if it is the kind of camera I want?
With all the beginner-centric features on current affordable cameras, imagine the following shooting mode - the Film Camera mode. Image preview and deleting disabled, and only 36 exposures after which you must remove the card and transfer the photos to your computer before you can shoot more, hehe :)
It’s basically the size of a mirrorless camera with the ability to use Canon’s vast EF-S lens lineup. I picked up an SL2 a couple weeks ago (with the 24mm f/2.8 and 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6) and I’m absolutely in love with it. The fully articulating screen is excellent, the UI is simple and intuitive, fantastic autofocus performance during video, having a microphone jack is incredible, and the sensor itself is just a damn good one too. Canon did a lot of good with the SL2, that will make it appeal to a wide variety of photographers & videographers.
im looking into upgrading from the sl1 (100D) because i need good quality video to shoot cinematic video for my youtube! do you think this camera is upto scratch? whats the video quality like (in 60fps too if you've tried it!) would love to hear more about the video capabilities :)
Do you think the "guided menu" is annoying or is it just like the standard menu?
aidan flood On his behalf: Video in itself overall will be a big improvement for you in terms of DPAF, articulating LCD, 1080p 60p. But in terms of actual pixel-level, as in image image quality, there's not a huge improvement. Maybe a little less moire but not much else. Sorry if you want significantly better IQ you'll have to go for a newer 4K camera either from Canon or other companies. A perfect YT/Vlog camera with higher level IQ is the Panasonic GH4.
It's basically much fatter than a mirrorless camera
Joshua Pingley
It has basically (well not exactly) the size of a mirrorless camera, but with the same loud soud of the dslrs.
I'm not a beginner, but I am far from being anything close to a professional photographer. However, looking for a nice, small camera with good video to replace my aged Panasonic G6, and I really like the looks and feel of this. Not everybody who wants a small simple camera has to be a first timer.
Why does this camera have two names sl2 rebel and 200d? I have 200d i have 200d، But what is the difference ؟
@@yamiyuri9008 no difference - America: sl2 rebel, rest of the world (without Japan I think): 200d
100% agree - kind of annoying calling this a beginner camera
Exactly. Him labelling the camera "for first timer" is disrespectful to the camera. Lol. Anyway, great video. Thank you.
Emil Saks America will not honor the warranty on the non American versions unfortunately.
The best reviews all over RUclips. Chris explains everything like he is talking to you and his opinions are very well based in facts.
I had the SL1, sold it, but missed it, so bought another one, and the SL2 is so much better in everyway (save for the 9 point AF, which works OK, but is not going to win any awards). Those who lament that it is not a mirrorless don't get why it has the appeal it does: What it gives you, over any comparable mirrorless it outstanding battery life (compared to pure mirrorless), outstanding handling and ergonomics, the fact that everything just works, there are no stupid quirks that require firmware updates ad inifinitum, the flip-out screen, the touch screen, the image quality, the abundance of excellent EF-S and EF lenses, new and used and so on. There are cameras that have theoretically better image quality, better video, more features etc, but there are very few that are so well rounded, useable, and quite frankly likeable. It is also one of the cameras that you can stick in the hand of almost anyone and they will get great results. It's all of this I think that TCS also appreciate.
Richard Rönnbäck if you use it with the superior dual pixel focus and live view say goodbye to long battery life.
I had to do an emergency photo shoot with my wife's SL1. I used the 100m macro L and man, was I ever blown away with it. That was about two years ago, but I still have every thought in my head the body lineup is really good, dawgs.
Love our Canon 200D/SL2. Been using it for the past couple of weeks with the 10-18mm lens and it's handled everything brilliantly. Great camera.
It makes a change to not hear Canon getting bashed ... thanks Chris and crew.
Next on the list ... the M100
With the same early 2000s autofocus system, no autofocus micro-adjustment, no Kelvin white balance, and no audio levels, it seems pretty handicapped to me.
In it's price class those features are not present. So, no handicap at all...
That's a good way to look at this camera. It's a mirrorless camera with the option to use an optical viewfinder. When I used my SL1 I was usually shooting slowed down stuff like vacation photos. The fact is this camera is great for doing just that. You don't need an EVF or OVF to do that but having one or the other and a nice big screen would be great. For me, the SL1 became the perfect travel camera for a Canon shooter. I'll pick one up later this year.
Kevin DiOssi
Mirrorless cameras doesn't have this terrible loud shutter sound.
I'v been watching reviews of this camera for days, and this is by far the best review I have seen. Bravo!
I am glad you like both the SL1 and SL2. I regularly incorporate my SL1 in professional shooting jobs. You are young, so you may be forgiven for stating award winning nature and sports photography is not possible with only 5 FPS and 9 focus points. I would point out that Art Wolf published tons of books of the best wildlife photography using zero focusing points (he used manual focus) and the 3-4 FPS his motor drive could give him.
Peter Richey I use 7D II and 100D regularly on all payed jobs. No one can tell the difference, including me. Clients only notice a difference when they reach to the screen to pinch and zoom but the shitty 7D II doesn't have a touch screen. I may sell it and get this 200D instead. The 7D II is the biggest disappointment I had in a dslr.
They're also underestimating the power of "Center Point AF".
You "Can" track birds in flight. It takes practice, but even the most basic Rebel AF system from five years ago is perfectly capable of keeping a Big White lens in-focus as long as you keep the subject on point (and the crop sensors generally give better detail on birds because of the higher pixel density).
But in rangefinders it was easier to manual focus. All you had to do was to align the circles. I find it very hard on my d3300 to nail focus at shallower DOF.
Emilioh888 Sony a6000 for you. Focuspeaking
Bud The Cyborg they dont give better Detail, absolutely not, you just get closer, but if you get close enough with a fullframe Sensor, you get either the same or better sharpness, depending on the lens, and if that fullframe Sensor had 36-50mp you potentially get much more detail
A headphone jack??? Huh!!! I'm already surprised canon used the dual pixel af AND the articulated screen here. Canon usually adds one feature and takes away two. Asking them to also include a headphone jack is beyond wishful thinking.
For those considering this camera, just a small correction:
The main dial on my SL2 is *not* made of metal, but plastic.
This honestly doesn't matter but I purchased it believing it was. Still performs great!
Fantastic video, finally a camera review where they actually show you footage using the camera. Well done on keeping it straight to the point and simple.
The SL2 is my first DSLR that I bought 2 months ago and I love it I think i made the right choice
I'm just scouting for my first decent standalone camera, I've only used flagship phone cameras & compacts till this point, after lots of research I'm going to plump for the SL2, it's seems like the best value for money. Intuitive menus, easy to use functions & good image quality, with room to grow with me as I become more confident 👍
This review has good points. Something missing is the fact that sl2 doesn't have anymore the eye sensor to auto shut down the LCD (sl1 does have it) but it sports a new display button. Also, 5 fps are also bogged down because of the very small raw buffer.
This review should get a review award. I think I'm buying this camera
As a T2i user, this might be my next [long overdue] upgrade. Great review - thanks!
Funny you come to that conclusion because that is exactly what I have thought too. All that really seems to be missing to make Canon take the reviews back by storm is a hybrid OVF/EVF (Canon has a patent on such a technology) and decent 4K integration in their existent cameras. That's it! Mirrorless aren't really much smaller if you take into account the lenses. But Canon has that amazing DPAF and their bigger bodies balance much better with the FF lenses. So we might be just another generation away from another shift in the camera market.
LoL I've seen someone using some kind of rear-LCD shade at least 10 years ago already. What exactly would integrated EVF bring? :D
Nice review guys. The SL2 is the camera I suggest to beginners more than any other, with the only "drawback" being the 9 pt AF system. Compared to the T6 it jsut kills it, offering more features and a more compact size with higher resolution and a better sensor for not a lot more money. Possibly the best first DSLR, at least in the Canon line up. And for video, it is exactly the same as the T7i and 77D, and just short of the 80D (80D has the headphone jack and a higher bit rate). I like to say that it is simple enough to learn on with enough features to still keep it useful once the basics have been mastered. Canon should give me a kick back every time someone buys one on my recommendation!
Side note - something a lot of people are unaware of (especially beginners), the T6/T7 do not feature dual pixel AF and do not have silent STM support. If looking to do video mostly they are not good choices. The SL2, as I have said, is the same for video as it's more expensive brethren, and is a far better choice than the base models.
thanks, I am new to photography and video and I found this video very helpful. I just bought the SL2
A lot of people are commenting on the focusing. The biggest thing I learned shooting wildlife on my t5i is that it's a must to use a camera with focus micro adjustments. I consistently missed focus because the camera is internally flawed. I wanted to so badly make manual micro adjustments to fix the problem (easy fix) but the camera did not allow me to. Other than that the centre point cross type AF is decent
As a retired professional with 45 years experience, the 200D us now my main camera. I'm a little surprised you refer to the video quality as being 'soft' - mine appears sharper than my previous Panasonic G80 & GH5, especially when I put my Sigma 24-105 ART on the front. I totally get your comment about it being a mirrorless that happens to have a mirror, and I shoot a LOT using the rear screen - both video AND stills.
Great review, I have the SL1 and SL2 and made a sorta comparing video of them, now the sl2 is much improved l like it a lot!
Interesting review. By and large I find your reviews more interesting than the live shows that you have been doing recently, so I am pleased to see that you are still doing them.
Great pitch. I have owned t5i, without dual pixel auto focus, easy to use, great pictures, solid and reliable. this sl2 would be a great vlogging camera on the cheap....nicely done.
Thanks for the review and your honest take on it. Just ordered one, can't wait to out to the field with it
This is the best review on RUclips, I've been looking for so longgg
The helium voice was hilarious! And also the comment about getting run over by a kiddie train going viral. Great review!
This camera is the best camera for me because I’m just starting out with photography. I’m very happy with the results of this camera. ❤❤❤
Awesome. The best review of this camera here on RUclips :)
Thank you! That was extremely helpful. I just bought the sL2 as my first DSLR but have used the 7D and the Rebel xti that my mom used. It is a great camera for my needs right now and extremely customiable which I love.
Way way better video picture than previous video. Did you do anything to match it with Canon photos?
+Rambalac Nothing to match with the Canon stills, just trying to get better at grading GH5 VLog. The previous episode was shot and graded by Levi Holwell, who likes a different look, but one I also really like.
Jordan @ TCSTV
Finally a solid & entertaining review. Thank you!
Chris great pictures you're getting with that Canon SL 2 great pictures of Jason and scenery it's a nice camera beautiful colors I'm really surprised 1080p looks great
Patiently waiting on the TCSTV review of the Canon C200...
Well, get ready to be waiting for a good year
well I don't remember them doing one for any Canon Cinema Camera... So Maybe Not
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Nice drums with the intro music, simply perfection.
First time Sub. Awesome review. I have been looking to get this camera and you may have sealed the deal for me. Thanks!
Great job on this review. Thanks for actually shooting video with this camera and showing it off that way. Lots of reviewers seemed to think doing so was not important o.O
I had the sl1 and thought it was a great travel/beach camera, but I just bought the M6 as an upgrade instead of the sl2 to mix things up.
do you have any regrets in that decision? im looking into buying a new camera for filming and am curious
Nothing so far, the image quality is great and I do like the size
I was just looking at buying one (Literally was in a website looking at it) and the youtube notification popped up! 100% use for entry level video.
Throws the long 100-400mm; my heart stopped!
Great review anyway.
Very incisive and accurate observations about the camera! And a very well made overall video I might add.
Just got the sl2, newbie first camera. Makes shots so easy for me. Mess with iso and appature in real time. Glad I got it, great review.
I've bought it recently and expected to rant a bit about it... but I simply love it. Sure I could nitpick, but for the price? I upgraded from oldish 450D - or downgraded when we follow the lineups, but everything about this one is simply better than 450D (as expected). I love video and time-lapse, of course - here I'd like to be able to make setting changes during the video, but that's OK. I like the menu, as mentioned in the review. This really has superb controls. Sure, I came from 9-point AF to... 9-point AF, but it works reliably as always - and live view/video AF (dual-pixel) is great too. There is hardly anything I can complain about - especially when the price is taken into account.
Nice depth review....was waiting for your video for better understanding the camera....
Best review I've seen on this camera. You sealed it for me. Thanks.
My biggest issue for entry level DSLR is the lack of AF finetune/micro adjust function. Sure, duel pixel AF sort of solve that problem, but when you want to conserve battery or shooting under strong sunlight, viewfinder is still pretty useful.
I still prefer the ergonomics of an dslr. I bought an xt-20. Great camera with all bells and wistles but its hard to adjust setting bec of the buttons layouts.
That's more of a Fuji problem than a non-DSLR problem, the X-T2 buttons are ridiculous, the AF-L and AE-L buttons are tiny, I have no idea why the hell they made them that small and recessed. I had to start using 'front button focus' because of how terrible the AF-L button is... now I have an A7R II and the buttons are much better
Hi! How long can I record video in Full HD without stop and overheating with SL2 and T7i (American or Canadian version)? More file is not a problem. It is important to make a continue video on a seminar for 4-5 hours.
My question come from Europe, because all European DSLR cameras are limited with 30-minute video recording.
Thanks for your answer.
Parajdi from Austria/Europe
I’m so interested in canon and their colors. I’m currently shooting with a6300 but when I’m not using it on a gimbal and external monitor I really hate it, the display is more or less useless imo. What do you think of the sl 2 as I first canon camera, shooting mostly street stuff using the display?
Completely agree with Chris on this SL2. Nothing more annoying than seeing reviews that miss the point of a camera design entirely. Thank goodness they are all free to read :).
Great music selection guys!
Just bought one of these and enjoyed your review. Should be taking delivery tomorrow.
The built in audio amazingly is pretty damn good. Wow.
The size reminds me of the original Rebel. Unfortunately it was too light for me and had a difficult time keeping the camera steady when shooting.
I want ot buy my first DSLR. Cannot choice which one to buy.
So, Canon Eos 750D or Canon 200D?
We had an SL1 shortage for a while here in the US. Good reviews but Canon didn’t seem to support the camera.
Hooray for the SL2. I might buy one...
When the included vlog sample played i noticed that the audio included crowd noise. This is obvious since you were in the park. But how did you manage(Mic or editing) to remove the noise of this crowd from the rest of the video which you shot using your regular camera. Would love a suggestion.
+Theknowabout We used a Rode Rodelink Filmmakers Kit running into the GH5 we filmed with.
Jordan @ TCSTV
Do you remember EOS 700D when it was classed as Advanced DSLR? Now 200D is classed as Entry DSLR and is better all way through. And it really does handle noise with DIGIC 7 magically well.
Boom! final line "a mirroless camera with a optical viewfinder tacked on. Makes the M5 look way overpriced for what it is.
Love mine! Definitely upgrading at some point but paired with crazy range of the Canon EF-S lenses, it'll never not be in my camera bag (the size helps there). For people wanting a solid DSLR on a budget, you're getting the updated tech in the T7i and 77D, the same sensor as those + 80D, and Canon's entire EF-S and EF range of lenses. AF points are a bummer, but if you were about to buy a used Txi as an introductory camera, you now have something for the same price or less with updated features (save a couple fps). The 1080p60 is a nice feature as well! Absolutely not going to be using it for paid video gigs, but for family and other personal work, this is a great camera.
They should be getting rid of lines, tbh though. With this and a whole mirrorrless lineup coming, the T7 looks pointless. Get rid of the 77D, definitively appropriate features on the SL-series, Txi series, and the x0D series, with the 7D line being a pro crop that can genuinely be used as a crop-favoring pro's main camera (and maybe get rid of the Rebel moniker to lessen placement confusion in the future). Less cameras with appropriate feature sets should be their goal so they can focus on each one and minimize outcry from consumers. That's just me, though. It takes the guessing game out of the equation and says "this is for this price point, that is for that," and all the teetering on the edge between one $100 differences is gone. This assumes, of course, that each camera gets the features they deserve in a way that makes sense. At that point, if people are going to switch to Sony, they were probably already going to do that. Here's to not messing up the mirrorrless line!
Hey Jordan what's the name of the Beatsuite track starting from 2:54?
Great little track called 'Jazzyfield'. We've used it a few times!
Jordan @ TCSTV
The observations here are really on point. I am in the market for a new camera to embark on some vlogging. Been seriously looking at the Panasonic G85 as a compact take everywhere camera but on top of the crappy autofocus, the wide angle zooms on any brand other than Canon are simply so expensive. The Panasonic 7-14mm runs $800 and the latest Leica 8-18mm runs $1200. Granted these are very high quality lenses. So I am back to Canon and looking at the 80d, T7i and 77d. I just don't think my wife will be as likely to stuff one of those into her handbag going to a party or restaurant or any other venue we might be inclined to vlog. So I think this might fit the bill for portability - it's light enough for selfie vlogging on the go, especially with a wide angle zoom like the EFS 10-18mm. And the price point on the various lenses I might use like a 10-18mm, 50mm, 85mm and 24mm pancake are so much easier on the wallet. I am seriously thinking of getting this, investing in Canon glass and then waiting for Canon to come out with 4K on the next iteration of the 80d/T7i/M6.
Did you hold the camera on the water THAT WAY on purpose?
Gave me chills.
Firstly I would like to mention this was a pretty good review, 2nd Canada is a beautiful country, 3rd perhaps reviewer is right. In that the SL2 could be the start of a shift in the market. Is it seems people want to take their cameras everywhere and therefore need a smaller, lighter body !
I support you on your quest for the perfect VLOG-ing camera. Sounds like the SL2 is a stepping stone on the way, but I await your thoughts on the Olympus EM10 mark 3 as a vlogger.
I know this video is over a year and these guys have moved on, but I own this camera SL2 and love it, I bought to shoot video and as a second camera. I also use a EOS 7Dmkii as my main camera what I find amusing is that sometimes I use this as my main camera. Very light and easy to use, I use a Joby Wrist Strap and just hangs off my wrist until I need it, oh put it on a tripod and do a time-lapse movie. I use my 28mm 2.8 pancake lens a lot on it mostly I use the 18-55. I use the Rode VideoMicro when doing video (no batteries needed for the mic) and the battery last all day (most of the time) which is way better than my Sony a6000.
headphone jack or lack thereof, I don't really miss it, my 7Dmkii has both mic and head phone jack I very rarely use headphones anyway Actually most of my video is on the SL2 my 7Dmkii is mostly stills but I occasionally shoot video with both to get different points of view.
Been using Canon for years, then I started using the Olympus mirrorless for photos and videos, often with vintage glass. I now prefer to use mirrorless. Tried using a Canon using the live view, and REALLY miss the IBIS which Olympus has. Looking to get this camera to use with my (now sitting not being used) Canon 85mm f1.2L ii, for videos and stills, but just can't imagine using it without IBIS. Canon NEED to make camera with IBIS!
Really seems like a great tiny camera. What about lack of AFMA? Any problems with accurate focusing in the OVF?
Best review I’ve seen so far.
Great video. Straight to the point and lots of info. Well done.
The pics look really good on this camera,, quite surprised from a entry dslr
Real informative video, thanks, trying to decide between dslr and mirrorless. I like the portability of these kinds of cameras. Thanks again.
Hey, which lens that was used during Chris's vlogging at 7:41? The footage seems sharp to me.
10:29 - 10:36 is the perfect summary for this camera.
For someone who is looking for a there first DSLR which would you suggest? This SL2 or the T6i?
Especially for someone who will be using it for many different things both in video & photo like conventions & family moments including photographing sports.
I needed more info on this camera....trying to decide if I want to purchase it or not
Great video, thanks! Why do you need a headphone jack when the camera has bluetooth?
Hey, Loved your video! I am looking for a nice camera to take on holiday to Italy with me to get some nice shots. Im not very clued up when it comes to cameras and this seems easy to use. would you recommend this camera? Or any other suggestions? Thanks!
What do you think about this camera vs the t5i or t6i or even the Panasonic g7?? I havint had a dslr before and I'm having a hard time deciding between the 4 cameras
Great work. I'm really inspired, so glad coz all my channel video are shot with the amazing canon 200d
Hey guys, just a suggestion: why don´t you use the same camera you´re reviewing to shoot your review? I believe many of us are interested in video these days, and a whole review shot with a certain camera would give us much more info about its real-life performance than having Jordan comment about it for a short time (if at all). I much rather see a camera fail miserably while shooting a simple review than have such a review shot with cherry-picked cameras from a completely different price bracket (such as the GH5), so the review looks "prettier". I believe this is simply unnecessary, and it´s giving us far less useful info about the camera you´re reviewing than it should, using the same amount of time/work.
Thanks
Simple reason, we rarely have two cameras available for shooting an episode. In this episode, for example, we used the store's lone demo unit. Usually when we receive cameras early, we only see a single unit as well. When possible, we love to shoot the review on the camera being described, but it's rarely feasible.
Also, I love the GH5 so damned much...
Jordan @ TCSTV
Thanks for the clarification, Jordan.. In that case, it´s perfectly understandable.
And the GH5 is a lovely camera... that missed the opportunity to give us something as effective as PDAF or Dual-Pixel so the non-pros can actually shoot video without worries. I don´t want a 2K camera that still has far worse video AF than my 3yo, el cheapo a6000. I want fun, not frustration... ;)
Cheers mate!
going to go crazy working and buy this thing as soon as i can
I would buy this DSLR in December:)
And this is the first video I watch from you channel and I like it nice job 🙃
Please help me, which one is better ? canon 750D or 200D
200d
i just bought Sony A6500 today and when I checked out this video about Canon 200d made me wants to return my Sony! Should I?
Im looking for a good camera ... was thinking and deciding between sl2 and m50 ... which one should i go ?
Very informative and shed light on not only the good things about this camera but also the less than good things as well. haha
I really like the effort put into the background, other side video clips, and how the focus is always brought back to the product being reviewed.
A well done review. Enjoyable even if not for the camera review. :)
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Personal I plan to buy a SLI 2 because it seems like a great choice for starters. Plus it's a camera that is more budget friendly while not over compensating.
I haven't bought it yet but it was nice to hear some critiques about what could be better on the SLI 2.
Hi. Between this one and the EOS M5, wich one do you prefer? Thanks. Good job.
Hi there
I am selecting from canon sl2, lumix g7 and lumix gx85. My purpose is to film concerts, rehearsals. I also have zoom h5 recorder for audio part. May be I will try to get some cash from that activity.
And as well would like picturing some landscapes, some street photo, timelapses and may be vlogging in perspective. Thats more like hobby.
So I would like to have something good in video but potentially versatile.
What can you advice? I have no big budget.
Thank you for the review. I'm going to Italy and figure this is a perfect time to get a camera since I have been wanting one. Don't want to spend a ton... So, I'm wondering Nikon or canon SL2 or D3500 or os there something better for this price range
Hey please do reply - im looking to buy this camera for my videos & pictures. As im a beginner i need help. The camera fits my budget. As i would be talking & showing products ( would the focus help). Thanks
That was great.... awesome....fluent...like a flow of water.... fabulous presentation... waiting for more...thanks...liked it very much...
Is there a person that can understand canon logic? Why they put great rotating screen on this camera but refuse to put it on m5 or m6?
Because accountants run companies, not engineers.
Canon could do it for business reasons. Sony and simmilar mirrorless-brands are the ilogical.
@@unverifiedbiotic hahahahaaha ur right i agree
I like doing a bunch of different types of photography but I don't know if I should get this one however it has such a great price but I don't know if it is the kind of camera I want?
You said in your video it won’t track movements through the viewfinder. Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t it track in servo AI?
With all the beginner-centric features on current affordable cameras, imagine the following shooting mode - the Film Camera mode. Image preview and deleting disabled, and only 36 exposures after which you must remove the card and transfer the photos to your computer before you can shoot more, hehe :)
For photography, which one would be better for a beginner? Canon EOS 200D or Nikon D5600 ?
I am in the market for a new camera for family photography and was considering the SL2 or the M50. Any thoughts?
Beautifully explained for first timers...