AGM RATTLER TS25 vs. TS35 **1st Hunt and Review**
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- Опубликовано: 17 июл 2024
- First Hunts and Full Review of the AGM Rattler TS25-384 and TS35-384. All thermal hog hunting videos are with the Rattler TS35. See side-by-side video from the TS25 and TS35. What are the differences between the AGM Rattler TS25 and Rattler TS35?.... Find out all the answers to your Rattler questions right here! Find the AGM Rattler at outdoorlegacygear.com
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*** AGM Rattler TS25 Specs ***
* 384 x 288 Resolution
* 1.5x Base Magnification
* 8x digital zoom
* 50 HZ Refresh Rate
* Battery Setup: 2 CR123
* Internal Video Recorder (No Audio)
* Wifi capable
* 17 Microns
* 964 yard detection range
* Multiply Color Palettes
* Price $1,995.00
***AGM Rattler TS35 Specs***
* 384 x 288 Resolution
* 2.14x Base Magnification
* 8x digital zoom
* 50 HZ Refresh Rate
* Battery Setup: 2 CR123
* Internal Video Recorder (No Audio)
* Wifi capable
* 17 Microns
* 1350 yard detection range
* Multiply Color Palettes
* Price $2,495.00
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*** Why Hunt Hogs? ***
My journey into wild/feral hog hunting started like many others living in rural communities. I didn't start hog hunting for fun or sport... I did it because I had to. My father-in-law started me on this path several years ago when he asked me to help out with a problem. You see, hogs cause millions of dollars of damage and destruction each year in rural communities and our situation was no different. Hogs were destroying our land, our family's land, and the land our family tree farming business. The vast majority of hunting videos that you see on this channel are hogs, boars and sows, taken from family land... this problem is personal for me. We have had hogs come as close as 20 feet from my front door, and having 2 small children at home and knowing how aggressive and dangerous hogs can be, getting rid of the problem was a safety concern. This is why when people ask how I got into hog hunting... my answer is always "I didn't get into it because I wanted to, I started doing it because I had to!". It's a personal fight and struggle...
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*** Why Hunt Coyotes and Predators? ***
Coyotes and Predators, similar to hogs, cause financial stress for many families in rural communities. Coyotes kill livestock, plain and simple. Ranchers have battled coyotes killing cattle since the early days of ranching and it costs them dearly. Cattle ranching is a business, the cows aren't pets, every time they lose a calf to a coyote those families lose a paycheck. Cattle ranchers hate coyotes just as much as Farmers hate hogs! I hunt coyotes to protect the livelihood of my friends and neighbors that depend on their cattle business to feed their family...
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Next week it's back to more Thermal Hog Hunting right here in East Texas with the Pulsar Trail XP50 and coming soon is my full review of the Pulsar Axion XM30. Thank y'all for watching!
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Thank ya'll for watching, subscribing, and sharing! We have a lot of scope reviews coming up.... The Thermion 2's and Halo X's will be here before you know it!
Does the 35 have multiple rifle zero profiles?
If you had to choose between the rattler35 or the hogster35, it'll be used mainly for coyotes and a nuisance wildlife business. Everything should be inside of 200 yards.
Thanks
Is this the 640 rattler 35?? In this review footage?
Can the monocular/scanner eyepiece be added to the TS35? and it be used as a stand alone scanner? Or could it be configured to be used as a clip on? I’m going to be making a purchase before then end of the month, I don’t want to be stuck with a
“Scope only” since a scan a bunch and don’t want to constantly take it on and off the rifle.
Thank You so much for finding me a scope that is within my price range and has all the quality I need to go hunting.
Thanks for watching Larry! I appreciate it...
Thanks for straightening out that 1 vs 2 throw lever. I was concerned about that but I feel good now. Thanks.
Awesome information. I just ordered a package that includes the asp160 micro mono , cap, hoodie for $2500 through night vision guy’s. Keep up the great videos.
I got my ts25 from you and published a video with it already. Great video man.
Been waiting for the videos on these. I’m saving for the ts-25. Great video as always.
I like mine
@Ga Driller did you ever get that 35? How did it compare to your 25?
Absolutely fantastic review of theses two scopes sir! Very insightful and definitely helped me make up my mind on my first thermal. Thank you sir. Subscribed!
Thank you for the kind words and sub!
Always great content. Thanks for the review
Thank you very much for the kind words!
Love that blasting sound feels good. 😊😊😊
Great review thanks!!! Just purchased one today.
Thank you for watching!
Very informative videos as always! 🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍
Thank you for watching sir!
I bought a used TS35 and it had the dual throw levers and I love it holds 0 even when Yiu take it on and off no matter how many times you do it
Just ordered the TS35 myself this evening. Can’t wait for it to show up. I shot a nice hog with a TS35 640 I borrowed one night and let me tell you if you got it go for it! Worth every penny man. Thanks for the vid very informative sir.
Thank you sir! I appreciate you watching and for commenting. I hope you enjoy that Rattler...
I really like my 35. The latest firmware update fixed pretty much the small complaints I had with it. Another thing to mention is that the view in the scope is a decent amount better than the video that it records. The 35's base mag is perfect for getting target and closeup or running shots and having the PIP works for the longer shots on midwest coyotes. I have videos on my channel showing coyotes from 70 out to 800 yards.
If I wanted to pop squirrels as close as 10 yards, would the 35 do this adequately? Or would I be annoyed and frustrated with the magnification at such a short distance? Would I have issues with focus that close? Thank you
@@Backwoodsmachinist probably a little too much magnification for that. If they're holding still you might be okay. It will focus down to less than 10 yards but the depth of field is pretty tight at that close. You'll be adjusting the focus alot as they move closer and further at the closer ranges
What is the PIP. I’m new to this
@@ryanmiller5810 picture in picture. It's the zoomed in box at the top of the screen
Are you able to turn the PIP off?
One advantage to these scopes over the hogster 35 that I have is the usb port is on the left side. Mine is on the right, and the wire gets in the way of the bolt.
Good point. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for making this video
@hansetx any experience with the Clip on version TC35? Thinking that may be a great versatile option for myself who hunts pigs occasionally.
Thanks for the video, I was on the fence between the two. I'm sold on the TS35. What is the part number or specific name of that American Defense single lever mount?
Rattler 35 versus hogster r used primarily for higher humidity under 150 yard hunting which one would be your choice
Love your videos
Thanks man! 🤘🏼 Carry On
Thank you!
If there is anything that I could add to this great review, it would be to get the highest resolution detector that you can monetarily justify. A TS19 or 25-256 price is really tempting, but in the long run, going for a 384 (or 640) is just going to provide much clearer images.
Great points! Thank you
For the price and gun mount function it seems the AGM Rattler TS25 ( currently $1199) would be a lot better and cheaper then the AGM Global Vision Taipan TM15-384 (currently $1295) . Especially since the Rattler can be used as a stand alone monocular for scouting. Any comment on this HansETX ?
I have watched your guys reviews and casts on the bering super hogster and the AGN ts25/25... what's your opinion on which is better? AGN cheaper, only been around I think since 2019 but I think the owners originally owned Armasite, which sold to Flir. After the two-year non-compete they started AGN. Bering been around since 2002 I think. I think the big difference would be the base magnification? is the super hogster worth the extra money? Whats the best bang for my buck if I wanted to spend around 2k? Is it worth the extra 1k to get the super hogster?
Black hot is nice on those thermals.
Yup, much better than pulsar black hot
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Have you had a chance to compare the 384 to the 640? I'm just wondering if it's worth the jump in cost or if the image difference is similar or if the 640 is significantly better.
I was wondering the same thing 🤔
Appreciate the information
Thanks for watching Marc!
@HansETX can the AGM ts35 be used as a monocular? Does it have the interchangeable eyepiece like the TC35?
I was actually looking at a Burris, but the fact that this one uses cr123a batteries is a plus for me. I don’t like rechargeable batteries in anything I own, mainly in case things in our country go to crap and power is not readily available, I can stock pile batteries.
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There are some solar power charging stations that a fairly inexpensive as long as you don’t expect them to put out 1500+ watts per plug
You can easily recharge cr123 with a solar inverter
I think main thing over rechargables is if they die you have to bring battery pack or not be able to use it, with batteries you can always add if they die in the field and if you think you gotta have rechargeable, just get rechargable batteries, i always think for shtf too and i hate when dont really think about that stuff and try getting companies to make purely rechargable units only, when not that jard to switch batteries or use rechargable batteries
What’s the best bang for your buck thermal, that I can see 2-300 yards with?
Anyone had an issues with the rattler 25 384 powering down on recoil? I’m going to try a different brand battery today but I’ll probably be sending this thing back
What do you recommend for a short range sniper / sharpshooter who is using a M4 with green tipped ammo in a military setting? For urban warfare as well as open field.
Hans, I understand you're using your cell phone for audio recording but what video/audio editing program do you use to sync-up the sound from your cell phone with the video from the scope?
I’m just using imovie on my laptop
Would like to see you compare the TS19 to the TS25 Cost means a lot to me.
I think the only difference is the base magnification
I bought one just the other day with 2 throw levers… that was a ts25 and the 35 I bought had 1 weird
Good work...git em! No screwing around here
thank you for watching
Could use some help with clarity issues with my ts25. Can't seem to get dialed in. Any recommendations for settings?
Im having some troubles with my rattler scope.
There seems to be two methods of recording videos and pics.
1. the scope directly saves them to internal memory.
2. You can login into the wifi hotspot and view in realtime what scope sees. When doing so, you can record video and take photo that is saved to tvision app.
My issue is with method one. How do i review these photos and video. Can i only see internally recorded pics/video when scope is directly to my computer? I see no way to access internal memory files on the tvision app!
Method 2 during my testing, i was able to save a picture and video. The jepeg saves correctly into my photos app on my iphone 13. But any time i attempt to save a video, it appears like it is saving, but no video is saved to the photos app. Any ideas how to fix this?
Third issues. When/how are you suppose to use the reticle vs trajectory? I believe the reticle function is what i use to zero the scope. But i have no idea how or when i should use the trajectory function
It would like to have my zero at 23m, 50m, 75m, 100m, and 150m
1. whenever i select one of the 5 distances. It reverts my desired reticle to option 1
2. When using reticle my crosshairs is directly centered in the display, but when using trajectory, the crosshairs is now in the upper right quadrant on my display unless i push the zoom button.
Its about time thermal became more affordable
It’s definitely getting better
Does these thermals have the same problems that ATN products have? Are they reliable?
Great review.
Thank you Chris!
@@HansETX your reviews are making it easy to buy my next thermal.
Great video! Good information. I'm receiving my rattler TS35 today and am excited to see this review. How is sighting the scope in?
That's awesome Tracy! The sight in process is as simple as it can be. I think you're going to really like the scope...
@@HansETX Thank you! You and Jason have been great at helping me decide on the Rattler.
Good reviews! Here are my comments on the TS-25 which I have taken out twice for some night hunts. Overall, LOVE my first thermal scope:
1. Agree with you.... For the price, you can't beat the TS-25. Sub $2000 and all the bells and whistles.
2. The batteries. Man, they say 4.5 hours and that MIGHT be pushing it. Of course when I first got it I kept playing with it and may have kept it on that long over time without noticing. Anyway, started a hunt with the battery level showing "full" but that changed in about 45 min to an hour and it went dead. I had backups ready though.
3. You are right about the menu. A little clunky. For some reason, my reticle is set to "green", but any time I power it off it goes back to "white", even though it says Green.
4. The "sleep" function. I don't like that it is the same button as the power button. I have clumsily turned it off when trying to put it to sleep. Maybe I just need more practice.
4. Recording video. I wish it had its own button to JUST record video, not a dual button for photos and video. Oh well. It DOES work though. Also allows you to use an app to record video and photos using the scope's network. Have not tried that yet but will be cool when my son is with me. He can see what is going on.
5. The size is GREAT. Love that it isn't bulky.
With all of that being said, I am a newbie night hunter so I feel there is a real learning curve. Getting used to what the world looks like through a thermal scope, identifying at longer distances etc. That may sound stupid but it is DEF different. I love the TS-25 and have you and Jason to thank for it. Had a sales guy at Superior Outfitters in Tyler tell me to check out AGM and you guys were the ones who helped me make the decision. Thanks again! Great review!
Hi Jeff, there is a current firmware update on AGM website that will save the reticle color while powering off, and also substantially improve the reticle bootup time
Hey Hans, new subscriber here...I followed the link you have for the AGM Rattler TS25-384 and at the top of the page it says 1.5-12x, which to me means it has 12 power magnification, but in the specs it says 8x digital zoom, can you explain that? and also, ... the picture shows a two throw-lever mount, but yours in the video says it is a one throw-lever mount...??? thanks for the videos!!!
1.5 multiplied by 8 gives you the 12
Looking into these AGM thermals. Started checking out other brands, as I realized these don’t have sound. I noticed there was sound in the beginning videos, and just realized you mentioned linking the sound via cell phone. Could you tell me how that works?
Imagine he added the sound from recording on phone and sinked up with his video and combined them using his computer.
how do you get the scope video audio to work?? does it have to be updated for that??
How are you recording sound ? I didn't know they would.
**QUESTION** Just got my AGM Rattler 35-384 and setting things up. Love it so far!! One issue we're encountering and looking for help on: Both myself (lefthanded) and my son (righthanded) are having to tilt our heads significantly to see through the scope when mounted on an AR15, to the point it feels uncomfortable. I see in your opening that you have mounted it on an AR15 platform. Am I missing something or is that the nature of the beast?
Any update I want to mount it to AR AS WELL😊
Works fine on AR
How do you down load the app or software? I’m new at this and have the 35
Is this a good scope to use during the daytime as well?
Do it dog you was having fun keep it up
Thanks for watching Jamarr!
How would u compare the agm TS 25 vs sightmark wraith thermal
0:36 Dang that's a nice running shot!
Thanks 🙏🏻
Long press on the color pallet button turns pip on/off
Very good video, I will call you this week...BJ Beagles
Please tell me how to get it to just 1x zoom. Mine is stuck in 3.5x zoom
How do you get audio? I have the agm varmit lrf and don’t have audio on my videos
Does the ts25 and/or ts35 have additional reticle options? Type, color, etc?
Yes
Can you move this from rifle to rifle and and have different profiles and hold zero?
Good video. Thanks. What gun and stock is that behind you?
Thanks Mike. It’s a Ruger predator 6.5 creedmoor with the barrel cut down to 16.5 inches and threaded 👍🏻
So honestly for the price point for someone who's buying their first thermal would you recommend this brand or the pulsar qx38?
The Rattlers are great but so is the pulsar xq38. If $3300 is in the budget, I would choose the pulsar. Thanks for watching
Can you do a review on agm sector 25
I'm totally new to this and want to try it. Surely you don't spend all night looking thru the scope so what do you look thru before you go to the scope? I'd be hunting hogs and coyote in Alabama brush so rarely shoot beyond 150 yards. (Budget is not a big deal I'm older and see poorer than I used to so better optics are what I need.)
For coyotes you’d typically hunt areas you know they’re in. They like to howl more at night so buying a diaphragm howler or e caller would be the way to go to locate before you start calling
Have not heard anybody discuss how long a sour corn bait hole lasts and how long it takes for them to start hitting them. May be a good topic for talking about. IDK.
We soured the corn in buckets with butter milk and water. Dug a posthole 3 ft deep and filled the hole to the top. They'll dig all the way down. Also, there's videos using kool-aid, yeast, and sugar.
Great review Hans!! What do you think is the better value for price? TS25 or TS35?
Depends on if you want 1.5x or 2x. I’d go 2x. But if that’s not worth the $500 to you then go TS25
Atn thor lt vs ts25 ? Clarity for 100 yards and under
@@cody555903 whats the field of view difference. For thick woods I dont need the 2 base mag, I think lol. Can't I just zoom the ts25 alittle or does the image degrade after zooming 2 power more? Hard choices.
@@TheAcfallejoseph every time you zoom it cuts the resolution in half. So if you have the 1.5 power and zoom it to 3 then it will only have approximately 192x144 and if you zoom in again to 6 power then cut those in half also. Same concept for the 2 power but you can see a bit farther.
@@Rigs__Rigs thank you very much
Does this have a better processor than the flir breach? I’m thinking of selling my breach because it’s got the stupid fixed focus but this unit is so cheap for what it does, just wondering if it’s using older processors or something? Thanks.
Yessir much much better
How would the T25 hold up for rat hunting at no further than 50 yards?
I think it would work will for that application. Thanks for watching
Is Hans a part owner in Outdoorlegacy ?
can the ts25 be helmet mounted also?
How were you able to see how far they were? I have the TS25-256 and I haven’t been able to find out how to actually get distances on game!
It just takes a little practices judging distance, you'll get better over time. Thanks for watching!
I'm still not understanding. How does this mount to a rail system in front of your scope? Thanks.
This thermal scope does not mount in front of a daytime scope. You are probably looking for the Rattler TC35 and not
this scope which is the TS35
I’ve actually had major issues with my mount it shakes slightly on the rail and I feel like it was a manufacturing issue
Is it loose from the scope to the mount, or mount to the rifle? Have you contacted your dealer and AGM?
If it loose on the rail, the mount is adjustable. When it's open, press the lever side inwards. That moves the nut out on the other side, where you can turn it whichever way to finely adjust it.
Is this the clip on or the sight form
HAS anyone used this in conjunction with a regular rifle scope? Just wondering. I have a sig sauer Tango MSR 1-6 x that I am thinking of pairing the TC35-384 with, and am looking for input.
Unfortunately you can’t mount this in front of a daytime optic
So can you remove the scope and return it in the same spot on the Pic rail and still be zeroed?
Sure can randy! Thanks for watching!
As far as shock goes can they handle .308? I know it shows 750 g/ms in manual but I don’t understand that. Thanks
Hey Chase, Recoil rated up to 308.. Thanks!
Been using mine for over a year (5 times a wk) on a .308 bolt gun. Keeps on ticking............
Mounted on my tikka .308 with a single throw lever and it holds just fine.
How do you get sound from cell phone?
if it is restored to Indonesia, sir
My flir breach, I can’t tell if it’s a deer or bear at my feeder that’s 120 yards behind my house, I’m disappointed to say the least.
I appreciate you watching Shane... I understand what you mean about the breach. That unit was mostly made for mounting on a helmet and scanner at very close ranges unfortunately
so can you use this during daylight also?, if so what does it look like?
Yes you can.. it’ll work but it’s not ideal
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AGM is better than ATN like the AGM better just works better got my first ATN and it broke within 2 weeks had nothing but trouble with it.
Which one would be better for combat or home defense at night ?
25 for closer engagements.
Was the TS-25 256 or the 384 model ..or did I miss it 🤷♂️ just wanted make sure
384
Could you use these as clip on thermals on an ATACR 1-8
No sir you can’t use it as a clip on unfortunately
Can it mount as a clip on? I prefer to keep my main scope on. I basically like the price on this
This model cannot be used as a clip-on. Thanks for watching!
@@HansETX thanks. I'll be in the market for a dedicated rifle for it
Can this scope be use for day time hunting too ?
Yes all thermals can but you don’t want to point it at the sun
They dropped prices now the ts25 is $1800 and the ts35 is $2000 is it worth the extra money?
Honestly the V2 Rattlers aren’t that much more and they a big improvement.
How does the TS19 compare?
Give us a call if you are interested in purchasing and need advice… 877-350-1818. Thanks for watching!
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Can you shoot daytime with these scopes too?
Yes you can, you just want to be sure not to point the optic directly at the sun
Are those scopes or clip ons?
This is the scope
Will this mount on a 22 long rifle?
as long as it has a picatinny rail
Hi i was wondering if i could have a discount because i dont have much money but i really want to get in to this stuff, im not trying to come across as a begger im just wondering if its possible
unfortunately I'm not the person that can offer any discounts
Basically rebranded HIKMicro Units?
Definitely look the same for sure!
Spot on! Yes, its the same, im holding my HikMicro Thunder TH35 right now and its exactly the same. For the HikMicro its possible to use it as a clipon device. im not sure if its for sale that setup in the AGM?
Yes AGM is working with overseas factories on developing products and brand. You must be located overseas if you are using the Hik branded product? We do offer a thermal clip on in RattlerTC35
@@trenthenckell2542 correct, im located in Sweden. Here we have it in fixed mount ant as a clipon device. The rusan adapters are sweet as hell for the clipon device. I just got mine for the drivenhuntscoope. Its a swarovski z8i 1-8x24SR and its fits like the hand in a glove 😅 Here it goes with the original factoryname (Hikvision), Hikmicro Thunder TH35. Or TH35C for the clipon.
I have the agm ts35 unit. I installed a bobro mount on it. Works great but doesn't have video as does the hogster. Other than that, it is great. I don't think it's upgradeable /updateable either. Thanks for the review, finally.
Will that optic hold up to a 450 bushmaster?
Suppressed?
@@HansETX awesome. Just ordered a Hybrid 46 for my 450. Hopefully it doesn’t take 10 months. But I appreciate the reply. Love the channel.
Your video title says ts25 so I bought one expecting the same quality. I didn't know that there was as ts25-256. Yours is ts25-388. The one I bought sucks. I paid $1200 and it's useless. Hopefully they'll let me exchange it.
When this video was made well over a year ago there was no 256 model, but when I give the specs I said the price and resolution of the scope. It’s also listed many times in the description of this video with a link directly to this scope on the Outdoor Legacy Gear website. I don’t know who you bought it from but a good dealer wouldn’t have let you think a $1,200 scope is as good as a $2,000 scope. Hope they will help you out 🤷🏻♂️
Can the 25 handle shotgun recoil
No sir
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Amg or new sightmark?
That’s a tough one! Give us a call and we can discuss the advantages and disadvantages, 877-350-1818