I gotta say, I'm a bit bemused you don't have an instruction video. I'm lucky to have got mine second hand, in excellent condition, from an experienced pilot who was able to run me thru some of the characteristics and techniques. I mean, the instruction manual just covers the most basic of basics. Nothing on how to fly using the B/C system, what to expect in tight turns etc. I've just progressed from a kibo and it would be nice to have a video discussing decent techniques, big ear characteristics etc. Don't get me wrong, I'm totally in love with the thing, but I feel like you sell em, and that's it. We're left to sort of work it out ourselves as we go. I've had to work out releasing the big ears, a bit of a pump on the brake, combined with some weight shift (I actually like the way the big ears stay locked in, but it is a little different). And I've found i have to boss it a bit on launch, rather than tease it up slowly. If it flops forward, the positioning of the cell openings means i have to reset. That's ok, but again, its a bit different. That said, it's actually very straightforward to fly, fast, good under brakes approaching landing, amazing glide ratio, excellent on bar, turns tight and, as i discovered just 2 days ago, recovers from collapses real quick. I'm doing things i never thought I'd do because i can just head off safe in the knowledge it will penetrate well if the wind gets up a bit and i can jump gaps without losing any significant height. Im flying 101 kg on the 85-105 and it outperformes anything I've flown previously. It certainly gives good feedback and while a bit rough, it's kinda like the hard suspension on a sports car. The swift seems smoother, but in the locations i fly, the lighter materials would be quite vulnerable. I dunno if this makes a difference, but even a short video from your in house test pilots, designers, manufacturers etc would be a brilliant resource. There are reviews out there, but, while informative, they aren't necessarily instructive and I know some of those reviewers are sponsored by rival manufacturer's. Sorry for the short novel 😂 and i hope that makes sense.
I have both. The kibo is a great wing for a student graduated from school. I had mine for 4ish years before progressing to the R6. The rush is something you'd want to progress to after the kibo I'd reckon. Im gonna sell my kibo now. The R6 is nex level. Totally different flying experience. Takes more skill.
@@huepix yea I’ve been on the UP Dena for over 50 hours now, I’m thinking the Kibo wouldn’t be much different from the Dena to be honest I think it might be a waste of money to go from high A to low B. I’m doing a SIV in a month and I plan on upgrading to a pod, then after another 50 hours or so I think it would be safe to jump to a mid to high B. Ikuma, R6/S6, mentor, beat or maestro 2, kangri, Explorer 2, base 2, you know, something along those lines.
@@huepix I’m at about 2 years and 3 months at this point. And I pretty much only fly in the Sierra Nevada mountains (west side) in mid day conditions, the occasional evening glass off. So I’m in 4.5-6 m/s climbs and pretty edgy thermals. 130 flights and just over 50 hours (first year and a half I landed early a lot cause it was too strong) but, lately I regularly fly over 2 hours and get to top of lift consistently and am starting to explore different Ridge’s making hops across the valley and back. A little practice landing out, just training to start XC flying.
@@SkidzFPV yeah, i understand the kibo only has 2 characteristics different from an EN,A. which are that it turns slightly more in an asymmetrical collapse. But it just never collapses. It's allowed as a student wing in many countries, so I agree you could probably be disappointed. However the rush 6 is definitely a completely different flying experience. Its not unsafe, but it gives a lot of feedback, and one has to fly actively. The person i got mine from is a very experienced pilot, and they said it took a year to get used to it. I've not flown it in any big thermal conditions, and in the ones i have, it definitely takes full concentration to control it. I did get a collapse last time i thermalled, but it instantly recovered, which is reassuring. Don't get me wrong, it's a joy to fly, fast, maneuverable, excellent climb, superb glide and fantastic on speed bar. But it will pitch, rock and roll noticeably more than any A and/or low-mid B. If you don't like that, its not the wing for you. The previous pilot replaced his with the swift, which is identical, except for the lighter construction materials. He said the lighter materials seemed to act like a shock absorber. Which is an interesting observation. They are basically C wings in terms of performance but the EN ratings are more to do with how the wing behaves in collapses etc, how fast and far they turn in asymmetrical collapses, so its a safety rating rather than a performance one. I think the phi symphonia 2 is a high performance A wing. I'd love to try it as the safety of an A with the performace of a high B sounds ideal. Expensive tho! Talk to you instructor. They obviously know your skill better than I. If you can, try one first. If you have the funds, maybe consider the symphonia? Depending on your nations currency, its maybe 10%-15% more than the rush 6. I fly about 50 hours a year (although that took a hit with covid lockdown and our communitites voluntarily reducing our flying during that time) and ive been flying 5 years, mainly coastal, so im not the most experienced person to give advice. All i can say is, i love the wing. In my view, the extra speed and performance actually makes it safer as it can handle certain situations better. Once, flying the kibo, I got stuck in a venturi and ended up having to top land in a forest clearing that looked the size of a postage stamp. And speed bar didnt really help and it seemed more of a down bar. On the rush i probabky would have been ok with extra speed, and its amazing on bar as maintains its glide ratio well. It's like a slower low powered car is good to learn in, but there are situations where you need a bitnof esxtra power/speed so you can floor it to get out of trouble. Of course staying out of trouble is the key. lol. Hope that all makes sense.
Fantastic wing, I just got mine and I'm very, very impressed.
I gotta say, I'm a bit bemused you don't have an instruction video.
I'm lucky to have got mine second hand, in excellent condition, from an experienced pilot who was able to run me thru some of the characteristics and techniques.
I mean, the instruction manual just covers the most basic of basics. Nothing on how to fly using the B/C system, what to expect in tight turns etc.
I've just progressed from a kibo and it would be nice to have a video discussing decent techniques, big ear characteristics etc.
Don't get me wrong, I'm totally in love with the thing, but I feel like you sell em, and that's it. We're left to sort of work it out ourselves as we go.
I've had to work out releasing the big ears, a bit of a pump on the brake, combined with some weight shift (I actually like the way the big ears stay locked in, but it is a little different).
And I've found i have to boss it a bit on launch, rather than tease it up slowly. If it flops forward, the positioning of the cell openings means i have to reset. That's ok, but again, its a bit different.
That said, it's actually very straightforward to fly, fast, good under brakes approaching landing, amazing glide ratio, excellent on bar, turns tight and, as i discovered just 2 days ago, recovers from collapses real quick.
I'm doing things i never thought I'd do because i can just head off safe in the knowledge it will penetrate well if the wind gets up a bit and i can jump gaps without losing any significant height.
Im flying 101 kg on the 85-105 and it outperformes anything I've flown previously.
It certainly gives good feedback and while a bit rough, it's kinda like the hard suspension on a sports car.
The swift seems smoother, but in the locations i fly, the lighter materials would be quite vulnerable.
I dunno if this makes a difference, but even a short video from your in house test pilots, designers, manufacturers etc would be a brilliant resource.
There are reviews out there, but, while informative, they aren't necessarily instructive and I know some of those reviewers are sponsored by rival manufacturer's.
Sorry for the short novel 😂 and i hope that makes sense.
Nice wing, nice color, i like the rizers .
Wow😍😍😍
Thinking about a rush for my second wing, either the rush or the UP kibo, but I’m hoping to get a chance to fly each before deciding
I have both.
The kibo is a great wing for a student graduated from school. I had mine for 4ish years before progressing to the R6.
The rush is something you'd want to progress to after the kibo I'd reckon.
Im gonna sell my kibo now.
The R6 is nex level. Totally different flying experience.
Takes more skill.
@@huepix yea I’ve been on the UP Dena for over 50 hours now, I’m thinking the Kibo wouldn’t be much different from the Dena to be honest I think it might be a waste of money to go from high A to low B. I’m doing a SIV in a month and I plan on upgrading to a pod, then after another 50 hours or so I think it would be safe to jump to a mid to high B. Ikuma, R6/S6, mentor, beat or maestro 2, kangri, Explorer 2, base 2, you know, something along those lines.
@@huepix I’m at about 2 years and 3 months at this point. And I pretty much only fly in the Sierra Nevada mountains (west side) in mid day conditions, the occasional evening glass off. So I’m in 4.5-6 m/s climbs and pretty edgy thermals. 130 flights and just over 50 hours (first year and a half I landed early a lot cause it was too strong) but, lately I regularly fly over 2 hours and get to top of lift consistently and am starting to explore different Ridge’s making hops across the valley and back. A little practice landing out, just training to start XC flying.
@@SkidzFPV yeah, i understand the kibo only has 2 characteristics different from an EN,A. which are that it turns slightly more in an asymmetrical collapse.
But it just never collapses.
It's allowed as a student wing in many countries, so I agree you could probably be disappointed.
However the rush 6 is definitely a completely different flying experience.
Its not unsafe, but it gives a lot of feedback, and one has to fly actively.
The person i got mine from is a very experienced pilot, and they said it took a year to get used to it.
I've not flown it in any big thermal conditions, and in the ones i have, it definitely takes full concentration to control it.
I did get a collapse last time i thermalled, but it instantly recovered, which is reassuring.
Don't get me wrong, it's a joy to fly, fast, maneuverable, excellent climb, superb glide and fantastic on speed bar.
But it will pitch, rock and roll noticeably more than any A and/or low-mid B. If you don't like that, its not the wing for you.
The previous pilot replaced his with the swift, which is identical, except for the lighter construction materials. He said the lighter materials seemed to act like a shock absorber. Which is an interesting observation.
They are basically C wings in terms of performance but the EN ratings are more to do with how the wing behaves in collapses etc, how fast and far they turn in asymmetrical collapses, so its a safety rating rather than a performance one.
I think the phi symphonia 2 is a high performance A wing. I'd love to try it as the safety of an A with the performace of a high B sounds ideal.
Expensive tho!
Talk to you instructor. They obviously know your skill better than I.
If you can, try one first.
If you have the funds, maybe consider the symphonia? Depending on your nations currency, its maybe 10%-15% more than the rush 6.
I fly about 50 hours a year (although that took a hit with covid lockdown and our communitites voluntarily reducing our flying during that time) and ive been flying 5 years, mainly coastal, so im not the most experienced person to give advice.
All i can say is, i love the wing. In my view, the extra speed and performance actually makes it safer as it can handle certain situations better.
Once, flying the kibo, I got stuck in a venturi and ended up having to top land in a forest clearing that looked the size of a postage stamp.
And speed bar didnt really help and it seemed more of a down bar.
On the rush i probabky would have been ok with extra speed, and its amazing on bar as maintains its glide ratio well.
It's like a slower low powered car is good to learn in, but there are situations where you need a bitnof esxtra power/speed so you can floor it to get out of trouble.
Of course staying out of trouble is the key. lol.
Hope that all makes sense.