Why NASCAR Is Getting Kinda Weird
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
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Like every race series, NASCAR periodically updates the rules which define the cars. Unlike most race series, NASCAR's roots go back nearly 100 years, and so does some of the technology. But the 2022 update is huge: independent rear suspension, 6-speed sequential transaxles, 18" wheels with wider, lower profile tires, coil over suspension.
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Do you think this Next Gen car will make racing more exciting? Should we have Jobe build one?! - Jerry
Yes %100
sup donut
Wish they would just put actual stock cars back that’d probably be more entertaining
Yessir
Also “sup donut”
4:21 Jeremiah thought he could make fun of the editor, but he didn't realize the editor had all the power.
Lol
he did him dirty hahaha
But the editor spelt camaro wrong in the search bar lol
Camero
twist, he's the editor...
This is the future Lightning McQueen warned us about in Cars 3
Yup, pretty much all of them are jackson storms now.
Ya I was thinking the same
Dem goes those hybrids
WE DIDNT LEARNNNN
ok
A Nascar team named Donut would be the most American thing ever 😄
You mean team Remington McDonald?
Well, technically they're Dutch
Yeeeeaaaaaa
It'd definitely have all of James' quotes on it!
I’d watch it
Just my two cents - I wish that NASCAR was still about racing near-stock cars like back in the day
Agreed!
You know what would be neat, if they brought back the old cars and made a retro league that tries to get as close as possible to old school NASCAR.
Yup
Better yet, let's put a case of moonshine in their cars and have them delivered it. Back to its roots!
The difficulty would be trying to provide a level playing field when you have vehicles that have vastly different capabilities, and preventing people who can just buy a better car. The Champ Car endurance series and the 24 hour Lemons are kinda the closest we have to such a league, because there's a heavy limit on how much you can spend to overbuild your car, yet you can still do whatever you want (within said budget) because its very unlikely for such a cheap car to reach dangerous speeds.
No more 5 lug rims as well, Which means no more ugga duggas in the pits!
wait seriously?
@@shook8331 yup, going to single lug
They’re still going to have center locks so they’re still going to need something to take them off.
@@colind1062 "Darrel get me the Snap On BFH 3000!"
3 second pit stops?
They really made Jackson Storm from Cars into a real thing
....🤣🤣
Exactly what I thought as well😭
What i was thinking too.
Lmao thats like cars 3
but isn't Jackson Storm looks more like a Trans-Am race car than a NASCAR?
4:33 never mess with the editor, he always gets the last laugh
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"100 years and they have finally discovered the independent rear suspension" Jeremy Clarkson voice
This comment seems awfully familiar
A more applicable quote here would be
“Thieves! Miscreants!”
💅🏻
I was picturing a carrol shelby voice 😂
I'd love to see a stock car on the Top Gear test track.
I can’t believe Cars 3 is coming true. I can’t wait to see a Jag take the piston cup
I was looking for this comment 💪🏽
Hahahah
He did what in his cup!?
He’s the Jackson Storm from the movie 😂
literally thought of that
Welcome the the 1960s, Nascar suspension. Glad you could finally join us
Damn I was giving credit to 1990s lol. This is exactly why Nascar is stupid.
BUT their stock cars now barely resemble the actual stock cars in looks at least.
exactly what i told my buddies when they said that😂
Well fuck its wasnt till 2011 they used carbs!
i feel like all these years someone has been poking a nascar executive with a stick saying "look what v8 supercars have done" and have now finally gave in and said "ok we'll take some pointers"
They shouldn't have, v8 super cars have zero manufacture involvement and the fans are leaving in droves
@@justkidshavinfun764 As long as young international fans are coming in faster than old Australian fans are leaving, the sport is doing just fine, I'd say. Of course you don't want to piss off your entire existing fanbase and bet on new fans staying long enough, but I think Supercars is walking that tightrope rather well.
@@rjfaber1991 they arnt
@@justkidshavinfun764 Same as any kind of track racing, really. Nascar, touring cars, V8 Supercars and all the rest. It starts small with modified road cars. Then they start getting more and more intense, teams want to go faster and push for more modifications to the chassis and over time they're allowed to replace the whole front end. Then the back end. Then just the pillars need to be stock. Then you end up with fully custom chassis designs, which get rolled into a single standard platform.
Some teams complain that more and more money gets thrown around by richer teams who can spend money on really crazy parts for a big advantage, so new tech gets limited and then... you have a track full of cars with identical chassis, engines, drivetrains and suspension and at best some real-world-inspired fake bodies. That means the only real ways to win are more reliable cars (expensive) and finding loopholes in the rules, or all down to racing strategies (fuel, tyres etc.). All of which are super boring to an audience that already doesn't get to see anything like a 'real' car on track.
I'd wager real money that pro drift series will see exactly the same changes in the next couple decades as well
@@helplmchoking you nailed it!
Mcqueen warned us of this. Cars 3. Never forget #riplightning
This is the comment i've been waiting for
Was looking for this comment
oh fuck yeah, someone said it.
Aye
The hashtag brought me to a minecraft playthrough XD
0:58 Nolan played Chris pratt's role perfectly
@@the.moogenium wish it was but, you can't get everything in life you know?
I was laughing even before I clicked on the time-stamp, brilliant 😂
@@eckso4237 You didn’t get it.Raptor as in dinosaur
@@thorlordofthunder2677 he got it, we all did
NASCAR: Bringing the most advanced, but still obsolete tech straight to you
That's spec racing. Love it or hate it, it's not F1.
@@logankuzyk oh yeah like em both it's just kinda fun to poke at NASCAR like this
Haha, yep always rolling out the car of yesterday and wanting praise for it.
@@dysonburt3309 I love poking at both of them lol. *Gets light damage in F1* "TERRIBLE. We must withdraw!" *fucking crashes in nascar* "Eh duct tape it."
@@digitalcamaro9708
That's what happens when you depend on aero so much, I guess. Even a spec race would have that problem if they used aero grip so much.
what if they raced stock cars? that would be cool
@@brapa1190 That's why SCCA requires a roll cage and other safety gear. It can be done.
this is what turned real racing into "whatever this stuff is" for me. SCCA is close, and fun to watch. NASCAR is just a bunch of sponsors circle-jerking (I mean circle-tracking) around
Toyota Camry vs ZL1 1LE vs Gt500
@@adrianarcelo3287 that’s why homologation specials are a thing
lol it would suck😂😂 imagine a gt500 struggling to hit 170 on dega. Then after just 2 of the 200 laps exploding cause it’s water temps skyrocket over 212…. It’d be comical
What I learned is that the current gen NASCAR was deigned in the Stone Age.
tbf Top fuel drag cars use an engine almost unchanged since the 60s
@@Appletank8 yeah, and a 746kW (1000 hp) electric motor powered by a supercapacitor with the same traction would destroy any "top fuel" car. Hell, the Teslas almost beat them at 2 tonnes
Mechanically, yes, the current car more or less is the same as the car from the mid 80s lol. It was just a couple years ago they added fuel injection and LCD dashboards. The biggest things they've changed are the aerodynamics (because cars aren't boxes anymore) and safety systems (because drivers dying is bad)
NASCAR was carburated until 2012.
The framework for the current gen of NASCAR stock cars can be traced to about 1965-1970 when the field pretty much built cars to the same spec. The engines and aero have obviously changed, but the basic pattern has been the same since. Tube frame, pushrod V8, solid rear axle with Chevy truck arms, panhard bar, Ford 9" rear, clutchless 4 speed h-pattern manual based off a Ford toploader transmission, 15" wheels with 11" brakes discs. The whole package was relevant to the US car market from the 60s up to the early 90s. This change has long been due.
Me, a brit who's never watched NASCAR in my life: Ah yes, this is relevant to me.
same
Not same
Its just participation racing. Boring.
@@calvincooley1074 what?
I'm from Oklahoma, and feel pretty much the same. Give me rally,road,even Isle of Mann, those are Racing!
When editors get the last laugh🤣🤣🤣
Last laugh and last edit they ever do for B2B - Jerry
@@Donut uhh oh
@@Donut OOF 💀
Jerry Berry has all the laughs
@@Donut lol
At this point Nascar looks like Disney's Cars.
@dolita windo why’d you steal this comment from someone else in this comment section. Copied it word for word.
@@Hamer4114 welcome to the internet
@@Hamer4114 It's a bot. Just report it.
Fits perfectly because all of their fans are only old enough to watch Disney+
Uh no I don’t think you really know nascar 😐
Welcome NASCAR to early 2000’s vehicle technology!
Hopefully in 2100 they will upgrade again! Dont get your hopes up though.
They used carburetors up until 2010 or so LOL
How much technology do u need to just go around circels lol
They were never trying to be F1 or Indycar
@@Alex-mp5xe A bit daring today arent you?
Good to see NASCAR catching up with the 1997 Corvette.
Ikr? They are so modern
Actually Gen7 has caught up to the C8's suspension technology as the C7 still had transverse leafsprings(has independent geometry, but still has crosstalk, where what happens to one tire, affects the tire on the other side's movement and that creates for a less planted, looser rear end).
Good to see 97 corvettes catching up with a datsun 510/ or like any german car of 60s
@@umairjamil4831 I figured there would be earlier examples, but didn't feel like looking it up. I'm surprised the drivetrane layout goes back that far though.
@@jasepoag8930 benz 300sl had independent suspension and mechanical direct fuel injection in 1954. Maybe older models had that too but thats the benz i looked up.
"Flat out in 6th for hours." Better make sure my shifts are faster and easier.
I'm pretty sure someone was thinking of how many road courses are going to be on the schedule in coming years.
@@dominicdingess7140 another reason why the cars are symmetrical now
@@dominicdingess7140 So glad they are moving towards road courses, I finally might start watching again, even with their recent fiascos.
I'm pretty sure up until the current gen, nascar has been using Jericho 4 speeds tho
@@dominicdingess7140 Road courses with H-pattern is much cooler (I love watching NASCAR at the Glenn)
I think the H pattern shifters adds an element of driver skill, particularly on the road courses. So the sequential has reduced the impact of driver skill on the racing.
No it doesn't. Any pro driver can drive stick or sequential so easily it makes no difference.
@@canismajoris6733 I bet there are some Rooks out there (a super cool way to say Rookie btw - some insider lingo nbd) who are granny shifting - - not double-clutching like they _should_ ... Ask any racer , any _real_ racer ; doesn't matter if yer shifting in an H Pattern or front to back like Xzibit ; shifting is shifting , cuh !
There's not skill to the H pattern - it just takes more time to change a gear.
@@amjan have you ever driven a manual?
@@SS454LS6 I have never driven a car that wasn't manual. lol, kid.
I have yet to see a V8 Toyota Camry on the streets. How did that get into NASCAR as "stock"?
Nothing in Nascar is stock.
it won't be a Camry after this year.
+David Bramuchi the stock in NASCAR means that all cars are based on stock cars not that they are stock from the factory
Stock means they are all built to regulation. Try racing a Camry against a ZL1
Have you never heard of the LS400, GS400, and SC300 of the tundra? Lexus is Toyota. The 1UZ is a very powerful and resolve V8. Honestly Toyota’s line from Japan and the states in the 90s out did any line from United States car manufacturers
IT would be much more exiting if they went back to mid 80s rules and regulations
Such as? I wish stock car racing would actually be about stock cars again.
Won’t happen. The idiot fanbase of today wants 26 wide racing every lap and multiple pileups a race.
@@MA-df6pj Same reason there'll always be fighting in hockey.
Same with f1
@Daniel Joseph Nope
Seems like jackson storm from cars is finally making it into real life Nascar
^^^
It seems just like cars 3
Jeremy Clarkson be like:
"250 years of independence and only now have they discovered independent rear suspension."
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And also sequential gear from early 2000s 😂
I can hear his voice saying that too!
Actually, the first American car to use independent rear suspension was the Chevrolet Corvair in 1960.
@@gabrielulibarri9950 Yes but it didnt really become the norm/standard for a while. Only recently that its been replacing solid axles in muscle cars
I know Jeremy's remark is meant to be funny, but there's a difference between discovered and utilized.
Oh my, so Nascar has finally graduated from the 60's to the 80's!
Yaaaay...
_Uh it’s actually the 90s ghehxhsbshcbxhx_
Lol why are they starting to move to the early 80s now?
The 80s, minus all the insane crashes and the whole rockstar racer aesthetic
it's amazing to see US had a major pro racing category that used H shifters until the 2020s. And the guy talks about sequential shifting like it is the cutting edge of automotive tech lmao
Just check a DTM car and you'll see how stock racing is in the 21st century.
I just love sequential gearboxes, maybe it's from learning shifting on a dirt bike, I just think the click is so satisfying, and fast.
*The prototype for the next gen cup car literally looks like Jackson Storm from Cars 3.*
NEXT GEN
Haha! Somewhat... Kinda looks like between a charger and a camero!
@@TZPK wtf is a camero
@@viciouss6.2 Haha! Woops! Typo my guy! Camaro*
@@viciouss6.2 you know, a Shevrolet Camero
It's crazy that it took Nascar this long to get independent rear suspension...
finally on par with civics from 30+ years ago
@@TheRealSykx Now if civics just ran the power to the rear we'd be comparing apples.
In their defense they don't even steer
@@TheRealSykx My 94 miata has irs... 😂
@@nicolascrescimone true!
Jerry:"May the 5th is NASCAR day!!"
Cinco de Mayo:"¿Soy una broma para ti?"
I love how I got this immediately, having never spoken a lick of Spanish 😂
Sinkhole De Mayo
The fifth of may is a day of celebration in the Netherlands, to celebrate us being liberated from Nazi Germany. "4 mei herdenken wij, 5 mei vieren wij" or "4th may we remember, 5th may we celebrate"
はい
May 5th is also when the Dutch celebrate them being liberated from the Germans in ww2
Lol i saw someone said this already sorry
I wondered why Roger Penske bought into an Australian super car team a few years ago, because they already have the transaxle set up. He knew it was coming to nascars and wanted the set up experience?
Makes perfect sense but then Penske's no slouch.
Or maybe it’s because Penske owns a team in everything except F1. He literally owns INDYCAR now.
@@EricBurns1 I agree there would be more than one maybe for Penske. Maybe the cars will become the same 'formula' and we can race together, like Penske the rest of the Nascar drivers would love Mt Panorama. Just two conditions though, no rolling starts at Bathurst and no calling Conrod straight, conrod straightaway.
@@EricBurns1 Penske did own an F1 team for a time.
I’d be more impressed if they ruled that the top 50% of the sheet metal had to be factory panels
Here in Brazil our Stock car category used to use a lot of fiberglass, since 2020 with new rules they are using a big part of the Monoblock structure and the majors panels from the originals cars. The cars become much more beautiful again.
Unfortunately American manufacturers don't want that anymore, because people who buy American cars do it for their classic boxier body styles and those body styles are a huge aerodynamic disadvantage. As it is it already appears to me that Toyota has an aerodynamic advantage for 2022 because Chevy and Ford are still pandering to the less aerodynamic muscle car era.
@@captainnebulous2918 I mean is it pandering if it's what people want. I dont want to drive a shitbox blob that looks like every other shitbox blob because Muh aerodynamics and the 5 extra mpg you get from it
@@thefizz9521 I mean I'm not saying they are completely to blame, but if you're a manufacturer in a racing series IMO you go for performance over looks. Besides I can think of plenty of European and even Japanese race cars that look awesome AND have great aero.
I will give Ford credit. They did make the Stang just about as aerodynamic as it could be. It will probably be a Toyota and Ford show in 2022.
@@captainnebulous2918 oh no doubt in racing you want aerodynamics and european and Japanese race cars look dope but if you look at the modern cars now you cant normally tell them apart except from their badges with a few exceptions. Look at the roadrunner bad ass "muscle" car look but it wasnt like a mustang or Corvette it was a daily driver type car. Look at the Fords and chevys from the 30s too 50s each one unique and stylish with a ridiculous top speed for the time. Now look at the shitbox ford focus which looks like a Prius. Just generic here is blob body model 2021 now pay 35k for literally the same car body style that it had for the last 5 too 10 years. Like sure its loaded with interior comfort shit but I can buy a raspberry pi a 13 inch touch screen and pay a tec guy to put google maps and a ton of other shit on the pi and it's just as good if not better than anything rolling off the assembly lines today
H pattern transmissions and steelies was something magical
I agree, what happened to stock car racing. Why are they trying to make shifting easier
@@ivanfromtheeast4709 I agree that it was awesome making them shift like normal old-school racers. However, during actual green-flag conditions, they will almost never use lower gears. They're basically shifting straight up and down anyway using two gears.
@@jonathans.972 still, it’s stock car racing. I think they should be stock cars with some weight loss (removing seats etc) a roll bar and a hans and that’s ot
@@ivanfromtheeast4709 That makes sense. It's a good idea to remember what it is. I'm sold.
@@ivanfromtheeast4709 Exactly, if they want to reduce the cost force them to use actual stock cars with the only modifications being for safety. I'm sure an uber caged Mustang GT500 and a Camaro 1LE can be entertaining when raced against each other using ballast for BOP. If anything it will stand up to the race on Sunday sell on Monday mindset and they will be way more modern and attract more fans than these cars.
"I'm impatient I can't wait for tomorrow"
Me living on the other side of the world: It is already tomorrow
Ye
Same lol
Ye same lol 😂
Yep
Same lol
You know nascar is behind the times when monster trucks have been doing these tricks for far longer lol.
@dolita windo . . . Hopefully without loosing any cheese inside the toaster?
@@XperimentorEES that person is stealing other people's comments
@@brapa1190 I believe that's called beer lol.
Me, a non american whos only real exposure to Nascar was the Cars movie and some crash compilations on youtube: Yep, all these decisions make absolute perfect sense.
@aidang1305 uhh mind repeating that in english?
@aidang1305 no he has a good point, theres like, 6 billion people who aren't American, including me, so we don't really get exposed to nascar because we watch our racing series, at least in Europe that being mainly World Endurance Championship, Formula 1, World Rally Championship.
@aidang1305 Bro I'm pretty sure he had no bad intentions. And he is not a mud sipper, its just that in europe rally and formula are way more popular than nascar. Thats also the reason we have invented independent suspensions for race cars 20 years ago XD.
You would be surprised how many people don't watch NASCAR outside of America
@@uchube100 I am surprised by how many "racing fans" outside of America who pretend but don't know jack squat about NASCAR. I mean, this day and age it's really easy to at least check out just about every form of racing around the world. I'm an American who enjoys F1, V8 Supercars, GT European and other series around the globe. The issue is that there are a lot of European "racing fans" who are elitists. Especially when it comes to NASCAR and oval racing. They somehow think that oval racing is easy when in fact it's very difficult at the speeds they're running. It's just a different style of racing.
Can we just give a round of applause for the editors that add timelines below the ads🥰
If you skip the ads, you’re a fake fan
@@GardenGuy1942 no, I have better things to do
@@henry.schafer if u have a minute to read through comments and type a reply, you have a minute to watch the Gold God Nolan talk about that Ram
@@GardenGuy1942 nope. I'm listening to actually useful information while reading comments, a dumb scam giveaway isn't useful
Why people like to say that thing? Yes, I get it, no need to say that million times
"...it's about giving the best drivers the best package so we can really see what they are capable of..."
B2B, May 2021.
More like making it easier and taking more of the skill out of it next thing will be traction control wtf
Would be real cool if Nascar went back to stock car racing and having car companies compete for the best car
As a British person I’ve always thought its been weird but an amazing sport , like they go round and round , crash sometimes, then do donuts, and the occasional helmet is thrown at other cars , haha 😂
As an American person, I agree. I'd much rather watch AU road cars or GP or anything with right turns also.
They haven't been "stock cars" for a while, so they lost the appeal to me. I quit watching after the 3rd gen cars.
This was the absolute best in-a-nutshell definition of why nascar is good and bad.
If that’s not the best description of modern America, I don’t know what is. Who knew empires in decline could be so entertaining to watch 🤣
Indy Car is the best American racing series
The road courses are so much more fun to watch
0:59 Nolan is treating it like a proper raptor
Anyone else want a car theme park now?
My grandad works at the Daytona international speedway as a security guard and he gives me special tours whenever I’m down there
is that because you're 'special'?
@@djsonicc that’s kinda rude tbh
You absolutely know that Roger Penske is leveraging the knowledge his staff gained while working on the DJRTP Falcons and Mustangs in the (Australian V8) Supercars.
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yeah they're kind of on par with jayztwocent's ones, not afraid to have a bit of fun with it
no one can tops Internet Historian's ad read
@@bayunugroho9553 or Internet comment etiquette
Peasant . Get youtube red
@@rauljrlara9994 weak
Nascar-dude 1: we have two different rear wheels. lets treat them each as their own entity.
Nascar-dude 2: yes, surely nobody else ever had that idea
You have a fundamentally flawed view of what actually happened. It’s not that they pioneered the idea of independent link suspension it’s the fact that they are taking that leap forward finally and embracing technology that will help driver be able to drive to the best of their abilities. You have a shallow view of things. Nuance bro.
Won't hardly make a difference in oval tracks and superspeedways. The only place that this will matter is on road courses and left-right tracks.
@@brentboswell1294 I disagree with you, independent rear suspension should help a lot with the car settling in and out of turns
@@brentboswell1294 This would make a difference just backing out of your driveway, how the fuck would it not make a difference on a high speed oval?
@@erictheboringone5292 you have a fundamentally flawed view on sarcasm...
Also, the 5-lug steel wheels will be replaced with aluminum wheels with a single center lug, so pit stops will be way different.
The officials wont have to count lug nuts at the end of each race now, saving HUNDREDS of dollars in labor costs! 🤣
I have a car from the 50's with factory semi automatic transmission and 4 independent wheels, I just need a bigger motor to be ready for for next Nascar season.
Why does everytime he says next gen I get the feeling of getting Jackson storm from CARS 3 in real life .
NASCAR has been so prehistoric in terms of technology for so long. It’s about time they had a refresh
Compared to even the BTTC, they're STILL prehistoric...even with these changes...like, no paddles, no carbon fiber, only NOW is when the car is symmetrical...I didn't even know that was a thing...These changes will at least hopefully make the road races more interesting/faster...I like the way they kept talking about the mechanics though, as if the current grid doesn't have very bright people working on the cars at the moment, and they're all gonna be stumped by the car
They are still ancient. A 1999 Mitsubishi Evo 8 MR has more tech than a modern day Nascar.
idk i kinda think that's what was charming about it. really dangerous cars going 200mph. the new safety features, especially the suspension upgrades kinda take away from what makes the sport so exciting imo
Still are, these cars are previous gen V8 Supercars from Australia land.
@@Dexter037S4 But they don't have a thin fiber shell that barely resembles a Ford Mustang do they? NASCAR SUPERIOR.
so excited for the new rules coming to all racing series
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@Cheerio Box lol
@Cheerio Box do you define motorsport as getting past the line first? is anything beyond the complexity of footraces from grade 1 too much for you to wrap your head around?
@@MIRACLECHEEZ not all motorsports are about crossing the line, but all races are and that's what NASCAR is. A race.
The rules have neutered NASCAR
Any one remember years back when the next gen cars had wing style spoilers on the rear and large adjustable front. Then all the teams cried and the next year back to the old stuff. NASCAR has sucked for years. They need to go back to stock cars or open it up to teams to build what they want.
I remember that
Kyle Busch won the first race in the car with the spoiler, then said that it sucked in victory lane
Yeah they didn't like it because it made them prone to go airborne lol
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*donut holes?*
Bruh, first time I've heard donut holes
What about donut sprinkles? It’s honestly hard to make a name for us also whose exited for the bad batch😃
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*D O N U T H O L E S*
The true irony of the Omaze ad is that Nolan pretended the Ram was a raptor 😂
Ram TRX, like “T-Rex”. Pretty sure dodge copied the Raptor
Dodge is mocking Ford. There's multiple depictions of a t-rex eating a raptor in the car. That's why it's so ironic.
@@bluestang9530 Dodge did not copy Ford. They built a truck that eats raptors for breakfast. Hence it's name.
where it actually is a T-REX
@@helpmegetbetter4940 just saying that’s where they got the idea
"the most advanced car to go around a track"
FORMULA 1, Indycar, ect: "am i a joke to you?"
As a Formula 1 fan, I would like to officially welcome NASCAR to 1989. Congratulations on your thirty-year-old gearbox innovation!
Manual h-pattern is objectively worse, but still fun. More things are in the driver's control as opposed to a computer's, so it's more difficult.
NASCAR fans know its not the most advanced technology. Thats not the point of the Sport like it is F1
@@lominoodles1122 NASCAR is has killed American car culture Coming from a time where winning on Sunday sold on Monday. There is no more innovation from any car company. To be real it's almost 'un-American.' When have we last saw large innovation in NASCAR. When did we see a team get their shit stopped and come back with a new car and blow everyone away? When will we see another story rooted in innovation rather than the driver who had the money to start racing when he/she was 10. When you take all things considered NASCAR is the F1 of the United States.
Man, I wish F1 was a bit more like Nascar. F1 has no road relevance any more anyway so I'd love for them to go back to NA v12 or v10 cars that can follow and aren't on rails. Just let the drivers test their skill DRIVING not piloting a spaceship and just put on a good show for the fans. No one watches f1 with excitement for maybe having one bit of f1 tech in a road car in the next 15 years. F1 did their part in innovation and road relevance, if they want any chance of continuing that F1 would have to become FE.
Aaron D The main reason NASCAR doesnt do that is because one Manufacture having a dominant car would make the sport pretty uncompetive. And theres still innovations in road cars there just extremely expensive
Hopefully Dodge doesn't get pissed you made me think of the Ford Raptor through that whole commercial...
lol I wasn't really paying attention and I thought it was a commercial for the Raptor
@@Flopsaurus It had all the right material to be a raptor, and then it was a ram
I thought it was a reference to Jurassic world where they trained.... raptors
As a European only being in contact with Formula 1/Enduro races I thought almost all race classes used a engine with trans axle, goes to show how old school Nascar truly is
Even better: Single seaters and sportscars like American DPi and European LMP use central bedded engine and rear mounted gearbox is part of car construction.
But as we see, Nascar is kicking the door and yeling "Ya didn't expect me that quick!" but it's still 1995 xD
Kudos for the grapics, well done and greatly appreciaed.
Can you guys make a video like this but about the new f1 2022 regulations?? That would be SICK
You guys have the best editors
There's better editors
THEY NEED TO BRING IT BACK TO THEIR ROOTS. Stock cars that must also be sold to the public.
Touring car racing would help that along. I watched the old races, I saw cars that were on the classic shows that you could drive right off the lot. Nascar now has more in common with formula 1 than its roots.
Then it would be SLOW AS HELL
@@PG-20 If you raced stock Camaros and Mustangs it would probably be faster than current Nascar tbh, specially without the restrictor plates.
A truly stock car series would also end up accepting Corvettes, Ford GTs, and Supras so it would become even faster because of that. Hell, Id be shocked if someone didnt show up with a Ferrari or a McLaren.
Id honestly be all for it, the racing wouldnt be as close because of the wildly different aero but it would be amazing to watch, it would also give us better cars for us to buy for ourselves so itd be a win win. Shame that Nascar cares more about their wrecks, fake championships, and GWCs.
@@PG-20 right, because current NASCAR is so fast😂😂😂😂
@@looper7159 it seems I have SEVERELY underestimated the speed of NASCAR
NOTHING will EVER be as good as the Winston Cup year's. Still a fan though 👍
I’m an F1 & Moto-GP fan BUT I’ll miss the sound of Ingersol Rand guns running up 5 lugs instead of 1 now 😞
Oh the Hours I spent in the Gran Turismo series, just playing with my settings, chasing my ghost and seeing just how the effects may or may not shave seconds...
Basically how I learned to drive fast
I'd do bad on the previous Laps so that I could see my ghost car run ahead of me, only to crash a couple of seconds later.
This...I don't even know how many hours I've spent on GT4 doing this. Fun times
Damn, I didn't even know that those cars were assymetrical 😂
We call them tanks...they have lots of ASS-ymetrical
Big rearends are just fine for racing and straight axles work well with banking and stagger.
If you ever get to walk pit lane before a race, take a look down that centerline from the front and rear and you'll notice it. Especially over the rear fenders and where the C pillars meet the body on each side. Pretty neat.
@@MD-pz3cn I have had my credentials to walk into teams pits over the wall but declined and hung out watching the TV's on the toolboxes. I got to park next to the garage area and have only seen Nascar races from the pits or press box. I have lived a pretty good life. I have seen amazing sports teams too..right place at the right time..that Bo Jackson run at the coliseum. Lakers dream team. Mets world series team. I could go on for too long and will. Then my friends have friends..next your talking formula one drivers and crew chiefs..i also spent time with the Fuel Coupe. The biggest names in top fuel would stop what they were doing to come out and talk to my older buddies and shake their hands at winter nationals..amazing..they don't ever ask about me lol...old timers that first ran nitro and blowers..I gave up the ride in the pace car at Nascar race in Fontana to my buddy cause I don't want to be coming off the track when it all hell brakes loose. I want to watch...my buddy thanked me Soo much.. I have a multi picture panoramic from him looking backwards at the field in the bank..
And it all started with 125cc shifter karts..
I have built lots of parts for desert racers ..H&M and have chased for a few Baja 1000's.helped build the first sequentially shifted class1. BMW motor and motec fuel system. The mean time I ran a world class 250cc road race motor in my dirt bike through the deserts of so cal. Eating bikes for fun..I digress. Thanks for the positive venting..haven't done that in a while..
My strangest picture is some of us on some high bank somewhere...cough...in a crew cab dually..needle pinned to the bottom of the speedo ...as we passed by some speedvision people filming a show..did we make the cut? Lol? We got our asses chewed. Well we were mainly passengers what could we do really..was worth it.
I used to work on grand American modifieds and late model sportsman too in Vegas and El cajon every other weekend..then El cajon closed.. we used to beat up on the Bush's. Our driver was rookie of the year against them.
I've been to many of the best road courses too. Laguna is my favorite.
Winston West used to run there!
Ok enough right? You don't want to know about any 24 hour Rolex? Or old speedvision rally cup? And now I build machines that make microchips and I hate it..but I live where it's beautiful and get to hunt and fish and shoot and off-road..so I traded all of that for this.if my son wants to race something I will be building whatever motor goess in it I'm sure.
My resume says from .4 to 4000hp.
Oh yeah I developed nitro fuel for rc cars and we scratch built those for a while..
We had full blown data acquisition with accelerometers on go karts 28 years ago. 😂
Rolex 24 hours series? One of the guys from the coupe drag car I mentioned? His name is Michael Bartlett. He also was the motor assembler of the 1,2 viper cars at le mans.. orca..he was a good friend..
One of my best friends is good friends with Danny Thompson and used to work for Mickey's race team in the summers. Danny just set land speed record in his dad's old car too last year..your like shut the f up already
.I miss racing..my boy is 4 so we will see where it goes.
My friend and family are racing rc cars pro so I will start him there and a dirt bike.
@@bigrich7026 bruh... Sounds like you have a very impressive resemé... Hell, with a background like that, if I owned a race team, I'd at *LEAST* give a tryout to see what you brung to the table...
Very impressive...
@@bigrich7026 bruh... Sounds like you have a very impressive resemé... Hell, with a background like that, if I owned a race team, I'd at *LEAST* give a tryout to see what you brung to the table...
Very impressive...
2:23 1st gen to 5th gen: Cup cars
6th gen: X F I N I T Y
NASCAR: We have IRS now!
Everybody: Umm, we've had that for 25 years
That’s the point of nascar
@@FirstLast-vv6lv the point of nascar is to be behind the times and boring? i fucking knew it.
@@theguy9208 Honestly I don't know how Nascar is even still going these days. They ruined the entire concept when they stopped using production cars. Who gives a fuck about the drivers, I want to see which car finishes 1st. It's bad enough that they just go in circles. At least drive cars that are relevant to what you can buy at a dealership.
I'm surprised that NASCAR is still using carburetors. When I remember that the last carburetor car that I've seen brand new is 20 years ago.
@@hochhaul You really can't use stock cars safely for this kind of racing. They have to be heavily modified for roll cages and crash structures, the suspension setup is completely different, the wheels brakes and tires are different, and the whole drivetrain is different to handle high continuous loads. The only stock thing about a professional racing stock car is the body panels, the whole idea of trying to keep it stock is nonsensical because you can never safely race a stock car.
Good time to buy all the old nascar parts now. Solid rear axles are bullet proof and can handle the hp and torque, the gforce 4 speed and engine components can make for good street rods
I have never been this early before and I have never even watched NASCAR
me too mane😂
Yeah dude, I'm american, never really cared for nascar, although I do enjoy it, but it's just donut media that I care mostly about.
I am a true American, as the only NASCAR I have ever watched are the crashes!
Yeh man the only NASCAR race that I ever watch is probably cars (the film) back in 2006 and 2017
@@gamechip06 I wish it was more open and ACTUALLY stock, except for an additional roll cage and stripping out whatever interior.
The rear-end alone will affect setups in ways that I don't even know if the teams are prepared to expect. The stagger of the right-side tires at ovals will obviously not change, but having an IRS means stuff like bending axle shafts at ovals (yeah... they do that) will go bye-bye. Lap times will reduce dramatically based on just the IRS alone.
Im down for a bright Yellow Donut car, would probably start watching Nascar again lol
That test car looks like something Darth Vader will drive
Looks like a charger
Lol
I concur :)
No joke my guy!
@@JP_RS6 Haha! Siiiiick!
That was one of those rare sponsor segments that I haven't skipped... nice job Nolan
Them: * Talking Cars *
Me: * Loving the Jurassic Park Reference *
No one:
Dodge: *puts hellcat into everything*
You say that as if its a bad thing.
Hellcat caravan? Sign me up.
Yes and that’s awesome
ruclips.net/video/7xFXrN4Pk0U/видео.html
or a demon
"Most advanced cars to ever go around a race track"
Such advanced technologies that have been used for multiple decades in other racing series, woah!
Independent suspension!?!? Woah!
If they slide the numbers back, I want you to sponsor a NASCAR next season. Yellow car, black Donut logos on the hood, doors and trunk. It would be amazing
As a european, knowing that nascar still used the H model for shifting was surprising. Rally cars overhere got sequencial shifts back in 1992.
Brandon be tripping balls on break looking at that tapestry in the back of his office
Lmaooooooooo
So, NASCAR has finally arrived in the 20th century.
Low tech was a large part of the appeal. Shame they got rid of the H shifter.
We’re in the 21st century buddy
@@erockstoenescu6171 I know, and NASCAR has still a long way to get there. 😉
@@erockstoenescu6171 it was the joke
car salesman: *slaps roof of nascar stock car* do you have any idea how many left-hand turns you can fit in this badboy?
Yes you’re right they don’t have any road courses
@@bk_nreynolds3278 Hes just kidding we know that NASCAR is also on the same skill level as F1 and IndyCar.
@@bk_nreynolds3278 They do though... and short and long tracks.
They added a lot of roads and roads esque courses this year
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough I was being sarcastic
If your donut team car doesn't have "MO POWA BABEH" stamped on the sides and back I'm going to be MAD.
As an Australian, I would happily start watching NASCAR if Donut had a team out there. MO POWA BABEH!!!!
They're really copying the V8 Supercars design book. Ford, Chev, Holden, whatever - meaningless since it is only cosmetic.
gonna be kind of expensive to do that
What if they raced _actual_ _donuts_ , guys ? ? Mind BLOWN . . a 2000HP bearclaw ripping down the track - - yellow flag waving due to giant sprinkles on the track surface . FUCK yEAHHAh
Let us all welcome Nascar into the world of 1980's engineering, they're finally catching up with tech. Congrats!
Next-gen -meaning decades old.
LMAO
The same applies to aircraft, think of that next time you fly 😆
@@ol_smokey9370 Not really, they had very up to date electronics and use things the work better not outdated tech that belongs decades ago..
More like 1960's Mercedes technology with the rear suspension 😂
Donut Media made me watch a video about Nascar for the first time in my life...
same here, and I'm from Germany. So this is very special 😁
I only clicked cause I thought this was made by Donut Operator. Luckily I'm an engineering student so I quite enjoyed myself.
Year 2080 New Nascar Gen 13 - Huge Improvements to NASCAR, they now have dual clutch transmission , MINDBLOWING
A wise man once shouted on a radio: Go fast! Don't slow down! Turn left! Don't slow down! Go fast! Don't slow down! Turn left! Don't slow down!
damn, this jurassic park style fits so well, a whole different person
Did NASCAR look at the Australian Supercars and say "hey, maybe this is a good thing?" I sure hope so because those cars are badass.
They really are, and the racing there is FANTASTIC. I'd love see NASCAR take on some of that...
Just keep the aeros small unlike our present gen v8 Supercars which prevents close racing.
Should grab some Aussie engineers who know this type of chassis. 🇦🇺
@@drumjedi5301 Most of that is due to Supercars racing at actual circuits and not toilet bowl racing in a stadium, nascar needs to have a 12hour race at Mount Panorama with their top teams, I think I might actually watch that.
I wish v8 aus supercars were more popular around the world. I love it so much
@@anydaynow01 They are going to a bunch more road courses if you’re interested in that later this season including Circuit of the Americas, Road America, and Indy Road Course
shout out to you guys for coming up with new sponsor ideas every video
Like the changes, "Stock Car" racing should evolve with the road car improvements even if those improvements don't make their way into the title "models" used in the races... a mustang with a rear transaxle would be pretty sick
I think that yall putting timers on sponsors is underrated
YAAY the Jurassic park skits continue, really need Nolan riding a motorbike surrounded by trucks next
Yes
Yes! Nolan makes a good Chris Pratt!
So you’re now at least three steps closer to making a touring car...
A V8 Supercar no less
Not even close to a touring car
@@lohithreddy6629, I didn’t say close to, I said closer to
Early 21st century vehicles.
Modern.
Excellent improvements. The drivers will love the sequential shifter. Been a standard in Rally cars for decades and motorcycles for ever. If you know your machine you can shift without the clutch. I start my 1100 Yammie in first and after that just "float the gears" as the OTR truckers call it. That's shifting without using the clutch by matching the gears at perfect mesh points using a fraction of a second of no-stress on the driveline by using the throttle. I can run up or down the gearbox with shifts in the .380 to .410 thousandths of a second range all day. It saves your clutch as well. The boys are going to like the new cars. Independent suspension will take a little getting used to after the massive tube axles but they are a huge improvement in handling and especially tuning. You want better stagger? You're gonna get it and love it.