Outer Wilds Critique | The Opposite of No Man's Sky and My Game of the Year
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- Outer Wilds is incredible. Ideally, you would play it completely free of any spoilers, but if you need some convincing, this video should help. The major spoilers start at 20:18.
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Here I am, again specifically looking for videos on Outer Wilds because I just want to see people talk about it. Thank you.
same. My Game of the Year and possibly best puzzle/adventure game of the generation/decade/genre
We've all been there... Wait no that doesn't make sense nvm
My. Thoughts. Exactly :o
Please stop reading my mind
Literally same.
I finished playing it a good while ago.
Still transfixed by it.
My only problem with the game is that I’ll never be able to play it blindly again. It’s the best and most beautiful game I ever played. And I wish it had more attention
DLC go brrrrrr
What's hilarious about this game is that I bought it for the switch accidentally as I thought it was no mans sky. Played it a bit and immediately got bored, sold it later to buy no mans sky. Had no idea the game actually had this much depth to it. Might try it again but yeah, I'm enjoying the fuck out of no mans sky still 70 hours in.
Edit: Just kidding the game I accidentally bought was actually called "Outer worlds", this is the game I actually meant to buy. But No mans sky is somehow the game I actually ended up with in the end.
I can’t wait to get dementia when I’m older so I can play it again for the first time
The three anglers are actually perfectly positioned in such a way that if the player were to not give any input at all, you'll always slowly drift right past them. There is absolutely no clipping involved. Just a really close shave. I thought it pretty obvious that this was intended to simply be a tense moment for players to put to the test their new-found knowledge that let's them get past unnoticed. I personally loved it, don't know why you seemed to be so confused by the design choice.
I just gunned it and hit the eject button when they got too close and watched as they tore my ship apart
Also, the quantum moon disappears when you try to fly into it because it's cloudy and you can't observe it anymore once you've entered the clouds.
surprisingly you can still clip through them. so long as you dont move you are perfectly safe
@@ducttape83 take a pic
I got past them by only using very gentle thrust to manuever around them.
I actually managed to find the vessel by random chance. I flew into the red section and froze up upon seeing the angler fish, and luckily managed to bypass them until hitting the center of the zone. From there I looked around with my scout probe because I was curious and noticed the entrance of the vessel’s room was not glowing and much more hidden, unlike every other entrance. I was curious and flew in, and was rewarded with something I didn’t expect to find at all. It was amazing
Pog
Lucky sob!
Same
I went to the escape pod but then died before I could reach the ship so I had a similar experience of exploring the anglerfish nest. I just knew what I was looking for.
End game spoilers:
When I went back with the warp core I ended up nearly being eaten by one of the anglerfish. I didn't get as much boost as I wanted before getting close to it so ended up with it barreling towards me as I held my breath hoping it would miss. I think my ship's landing gear clipped inside it it was so close! Just about gave me a heart attack but it made for an even more memorable experience.
"Zelda games are fundamentally boring and overrated"
How was he able to maintain such a high like/dislike ratio? What a legend.
When he said that I burst out laughing cos I felt the same way he did just didn't expect him to pull that one out 🤣🤣
A bit of a strong statement to make after saying "I didn't play it though."
The Zelda games at face value do have pretty simple puzzles that just aren't that stimulating in theory, yet in practice everything comes together to be an enjoyable experience with the world, gameplay, and puzzles.
Probably because people like a good outer wilds video more than they dislike a zelda burn. Also it felt slightly sarcastic so that definitely helps.
My understanding of the problem you found with the quantum moon was simply that it's own thick, cloudy atmosphere stopped you from observing it during entry. I hope that makes sense?
It makes sense, but still doesn't explain it consistently. If the thick clouds block your view, it means the thick cloud around the moon is not PART of the moon itself, but rather a different element. But if that's the case, then the moon can never be observed to begin with, seeing as all you can see from the outside it this cloudy exterior. Therefore, the clouds count as being the moon. But if that's the case, they can't block your view from the moon, because... they are... the moon.
My take has to do with light: I believe the clouds are so thick that for a moment you can't really see anything as you traverse them, causing a situation like the one when you turn off all lights in a dark place. This un-tangles the moon, making it move. If the clouds were solid, you would be moved along with the moon just like it happens when you stand in the quantum shards, but the moons are not solid, so they don't take you with them.
@@FBracht inside the smoke you have no reference point you dont know which direction the moon is so it could be anywhere
Do hearthians simply never blink?
@@lithenism with 4 eyes they prolly alternate blinking
@@FBracht it's about light not whether the clouds are part of the moon. When it gets dark you're no longer considered to be observing a quantum object. Effectively, this combines both the lessons of quantum entanglement (or at least the darkness part) and quantum imaging. The fact that the screen doesn't go totally dark is probably more of an artistic choice then anything else.
some things nobody ever seems to discover: Gabbro gives the player the ability to end a cycle early via meditation, and you can sleep at timber hearth's campfire to pass some of the time if you need to be somewhere at a specific time.
Those features were added to the game after launch, so anybody who played in the first few months of its release didn't have access to them. Most reviewers likely finished the game before getting those. There were some other changes too, like Ash Twin's warp tower being designed differently to indicate where it is safe to stand, and Brittle Hollow being slightly adjusted to be less difficult to get around.
Also, they changed the amount of probes fired, to be more realistic about stumbling upon the eye of the universe.
But yeah, reset by meditating and fasten time by resting were added later.
@@lamentz27 Meditation existed from the very start, a lot of people just didn't find it. Sleep was added later, though.
@@QwertyuiopThePie pretty sure you have it backwards.
@@QwertyuiopThePie hey you were the guy the game mentioned
I watched your video, stoped at the spoiler warning and got the game on holiday sale. Now I'm back to see the rest of it after I finished it. I'm glad I didn't spoil it as it is really a great experience.
So to sum up Dark Bramble for anyone who doesn't understand it or maybe missed a point or two, I believe I have a fairly complete picture of what it is. So dark bramble is a plant. Where dark bramble is now, a large ice planet used to exist. This ice planet contained jellyfish and anglerfish. At some point slightly before the Nomai arrived in the system, a dark bramble seed crashed into the ice planet. It's never stated where the original seed came from, but it's safe to assume that there are other dark brambles out in the universe, and that this seed made it's way here from the destruction of another planet infested by a dark bramble. Speaking of which, the dark bramble seed burrowed its way into the core of the ice planet, and from there it slowly grew in mass before smashing the ice planet into pieces. Most of these pieces can be seen still attached to the dark bramble, but a portion of them were scattered across the system, including one in giant's deep, and another on timber hearth (this one only recently landed here, so it's safe to assume the seed was orbiting around the sun in space for a long time before it finally collided with something) The chunk located on giant's deep contained jellyfish in/on it, and they now inhabit the deep core of the planet. Another chunk which carried an anglerfish landed on the ember twin. due to the harsh environment, the anglerfish died and decayed to form the anglerfish cave. The Nomai vessel arrived shortly after the initial destruction of the ice planet, and was caught inside the rapidly expanding pocket dimensions within the seed. A piece of art on a wall seems to depict an unusually small looking dark bramble reaching out to the nearby vessel and surrounding it with vines, so it's safe to assume that the bramble grew and captured the vessel. Also of note, it's likely that the signal the Nomai were detecting was/is the exact same signal as the quantum fluctuations signal you can pick up on your scope. This would imply that the Nomai arrived in the solar system at the location of the quantum moon when it orbits dark bramble, since the eye and the quantum moon share the same properties, physics, and sounds. The Vessel is large enough that it was probably bumping against the newly emerged bramble, which aggravated it, and cause it to engulf the Vessel.
The physics: dark bramble appears to warp space in a fashion that shouldn't be possible. It's unlikely that the seeds shrink the player, because multiple different seeds in different locations can lead to the same location (the timber hearth seed and the seed inside the dead anglerfish skeleton both lead feldspar's camp). It's my belief that the seeds are portals to pocket dimensions warped by space. Time still works exactly the same as normal, as the supernova will still go off after 22 minutes when you are within the pocket dimensions. Also, the supernova will still kill the player, which means that the pocket universes are indeed located with the solar system, and most likely, are actually located within the dark bramble. So it's not so much that the player is shrinking, but that the space you enter is expanding visually.
Fun fact: the pocket dimension is actually placed far out from the sun. If you put your scout probe into the seed on Timber Hearth, a big black circle will appear in space, and if you go to it it acts like a silent white hole.
they're lucky the sun exploded when it did because the meteoric bramble seed would have eventually destroyed their home timber hearth
By the way the dev's said in a interview that the angler fish might be from ember twin
@@StayFractalesque you have an interesting take on luck, lol
@@sploofmcsterra4786 WAIT WHAT?
The interloper's ice melts as it approaches the system's star. This heating of the interloper is what led to the ghost matters "container" exploding, as the pressure began growing exponentially. This is recorded in the Naomi's journal at the broken "container." Also, on the Storm planet, the theory of ghost matter not traveling through water is confirmed. On one of the islands, where the other astronaut is located, there's a tunnel with ghost matter in it. While above water, you'll get hurt trying to walk through the tunnel. However, when the island is submerged, you can travers the tunnel without getting hurt at all. The fact that the theory is proved with no direction other than the player having to actively prove it themselves is a testament to the writing in this game alone.
Note: you don't have to look up at the ceiling when warping.
Chris Davis is the Lightning McQueen of video game analysts.
Whitelight he’s view count in criminally low. I can’t wait till he grabs more traction.
Who?
His ego slows him down and holds him back?
@@thejustinsteffan maybe hes tired of all his viewers fat ego in the comments 🤷🏻♂️
@@thejustinsteffan seems like it, at every turn he goes against the grain JUST to go against it. Fucking ancient hipster, it seems.
I completed this yesterday. It's incredible; hands down, game of the year.
After completing it I've realised that you can complete it in ten minutes if you know what to do.
But the whole point is; you don't know what to do. You learn the galaxy, you learn the systems, you learn all the way to the end.
If you read this comment before playing the game, *please* don't watch any RUclips videos before playing. Discovery IS the game. Research will ruin the game for you.
Dive in, fall in love.
It really is amazing. Teaching you. Knowledge is the "leveling up", I've never seen a game do it this well
Pfff, wut. And why should we taken your advise to treat YT videos as coronavirus?! People can do what they please; you can have your say and this is factually based on it's mechancs and core gameplay alone a Great game but we don't need to be told anything, thx
@@netweed09 What?
@@BongoBaggins Well, you edited your comment but the funny thing is my point still stands - you're in no station to simply tell people ''not to watch videos''.
1) That 'ruling' can apply to almost any game anyway, and 2) Reality is - it may spoil it for some, it may not for others. I personally am not spoiled by ''YTing out'' games as I want the satisfaction of knowing a good/bad ending Boss etc etc.
But for this, as combat is lacking - and heavily based on discovery, this is n element that's just inherent of the game that I can see will lead it to being very easily spoiled for some.
For me, not so much
@@netweed09 I edited it because of a typo.
Also, people shouldn't watch this video before playing the game because it spoils it.
If this doesn't apply to you, great. But for many, many people the content of this video will spoil the game.
that was a really spicy take on zelda
don't bite into it, it's too hot.
@ThisIsMyRealName Agreed. While they can be fun they are pretty basic. While it can be initiative the lack of any deep mechanics really is a let down. That is why the climbing in the newest zelda was a real game changer.
@@MrDrManPerson Honestly, this guy is just blowing hot air to get noticed with his opinions at around 11:30. He totally misses and airshots that early Zelda games (especially MM which oh, what a surprise, he's ''never played'' lol) were well ahead of their times in terms of gameplay using genuine innovation and a thick plot woven between it that have become industry classics.
Recently like Skyward, the series has been more focused on lore and story/setting. Breath1 does get very repetitive but it's still groundbreaking and the sequel, just based on the trailers appears to only improve on those flaws with interesting new elements.
Spicy Pepper
Yeah, seemed like a bit of unnecessary shade from what is a serious, straight-forward analytical video. There's definitely fans of the Zelda franchise who won't share that opinion, but I'd prefer if this line of thought had remained absent from my mind entirely lol
Spectacular deaths.... it’s music and plot.
It was one of the best games I’ve ever played in my entire life.
Up there with KoTOR, Halo 1, Goldeneye.
It will shape you
Agreed. I've been gaming for nearly 30 years and this is right up there with the best I've played.
The last time exploration felt so meaningful was Subnautica. This game is pure curiosity, amazing.
For those confused about the interloper:
The Interloper likely started its life as a strange form of gas that gradually became solid as the region it was in cooled down. This formed the "shell" of matter we see in game.
This shell is non-harmful to life, as evidenced by our ability to rub up against it, or possibly that ghost matter is only harmful in its gaseous state. Another possibility is that Ghost Matter only becomes dangerous as a result of those small crystals becoming hot/exposed to oxygen/etc. We also know through in game dialogue that Ghost matter very slowly dissipates.
So as this solid chunk of exotic matter hurtled through space, it developed an icy rocky build up around it that gradually became the Interloper. The exotic matter inside seems to have been gradually become pressurized and may have even erupted beforehand, but was contained by the ice/water of the interloper. When The Interloper strayed close to the system we see in game, it became caught by the sun's gravity well. As the comet and its deadly payload approached the sun, the ice containing it began to melt, which just so happened to time up with the matter inside having high pressure. The Nomai observed the pressure only increased as they grew closer to the sun and unfortunately were too late to stop it.
The interloper ruptures enough that ghost matter crystals rapidly shower the entire system as it approaches the sun. All non-aquatic life rapidly dies. The Nomai in the core are peppered with Ghost Matter crystals.
200,000 years later, the interloper's shell has mostly reformed with new "backwards" facing spires as a result of its earlier explosion. Most of the Ghost Matter has dissipated and some of the crystals has even stopped emitting their deadly field.
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Otherwise great video. My only point of frustration with awkward puzzle design was the exact method of entry to the Ash Twin Project.
Yeah that was counterintuitive
Thankfully they've changed some stuff since to make it less awkward and more obvious
I think this is the best review i've seen so far that manages to 'sell' the game without spoiling any mechanics or plot points. Thank you for describing this game in such a beautiful way that i can safely share with friends that will interest them without spoiling their experiences.
19:55 You might not read this since this video is old, but Outer Wilds has an in universe explanation for why the Autopilot does this. You see, the first Hearthian you ever speak to in this game, says how he plans on making an Autopilot system with an Object Avoidance Mechanic, AFTER the Player's launch.
26:09 The Ghost Matter exploded because the Interloper got too close to the Sun, which we know that when it does get close, the Ice starts to melt, therefore the Ghost Matter has a means of escape.
The ghost matter got released from the Interloper when it got too close to the sun, causing the ice to melt and the ghost matter to spread out into the solar system.
The log says that the gas is incredibly compressed and when it explodes it would coat the entire solar system almost instantly. That's why most Nomai skeletons all look like they were just living life as normal and dropped dead. A blast that powerful with a payload of that size would have vaporized the comet.
@@lamentz27 Ghost matter doesn't seem to be very physical though, our scout can fly right through it without resistance.
I think the nomai that said he wanted to examine it got a little too excited and somehow made a crack, causing it to explode. You can see that the one who was supposed to run barely made it out of the room before he died
@Matthew Knoellinger
It's a long time since I played so there's no way I can remember enough to discuss it
I'm glad you came around playing it! This really was my surprise GOTY contender!
The best part about this game is how it cut all the bullshit (upgrades, crafting and grinding) that plague similar games, and dares to focus on just the worldbuilding and adventure.
One thing i love about this game is how diferent your experience can be from any other player. Not just because of the non linearity of the game but also because of how the story is structured, it allows for you to interpret it in any given way because most of the time you don't have all the pieces of the story yet, leading you to fill in the gaps with info that others might not think about.
The best example in my playthrough was right at the end, somehow i got to the core of Ash Twin and to the Vessel before ever going into the black hole forge, so my first thought was the obvious " oh my god i have to deactivate the loop if i want to get to the eye", but right after that i had a second, totally wrong realization of " wait i haven't actually been inside the black hole forge, of course !! If i go there i can make a warp core or find one leftover and use that to power the Vessel". I then made my way to the black hole forge, fully convinced i would find a warp core there, and when i didn't i felt completly crushed, I assumed wrong, there was no other way to power the Vessel, I had to use the core at Ash Twin and risk dooming the entire solar system.
This kind of interactive storytelling where my own choices and personal circumstances inferred how i reacted to a story beat that likely wasn't even intended by the devs is pure magic that only a game as beautifully crafted as outer wilds could ever achieve
Outer Wilds > outer worlds
Well, I agree, but it's a matter of opinion. Different people like different games.
Asher Cat I think I would like Outer Worlds a whole lot more,this game looks HARD ie not FUN.
I game to GAME not to get depression.
@@Jellybeantiger What do you mean by "get depression?"
Asher Cat these sort of games ,puzzle backtracking games frustrate me so much,I get really down,what is that other puzzle backtracking game I played for 20 mins and got so confused I had to uninstall?,Braid,ew,that word evokes cold and darkness and fear into me,my puzzle and direction instincts are severely lacking.
@@Jellybeantiger Well, that's fine. Different people have different tastes. Just don't spit on other people's tastes.
-watched review
-bought the game
-finished it
-cried at the end
-went back to see review again
Now I want to thank You.
End of the loop.
I think the ghost matter shot out through the tubes in the comet and since it was so highly compressed it still spread out everywhere afterward instead of going in straight lines.
The Quantum Moon has a foggy atmosphere that blocks your view of the moon as a whole since the atmosphere and the moon are not quite one and the same, evidenced by the bit of atmosphere being left behind when the moon goes somewhere else. I agree it's a little contrived though.
I don't think Dark Bramble is explained by anyone other than the lone Hearthien there, the Nomai didn't seem to ever figure it out.
I thought it was something like radiation, like a gas or something.
It's the blast of radiation that killed the Nomai-this is why they all died instantly in the positions they were in at the moment of explosion, and why the Hearthians survived (as water does a great job of stopping most kinds of radiation). The blast *also* sent out chunks of the actual physical ghost matter which embedded themselves into the other planets.
@@r_bear What is your source for this claim? I don't remember the game ever mentioning anything related to radiation, only ghost matter.
24:56
Correction (spoilers):
They actually had a plan to substitute the sun station which you can see in the ash twin project, however, the interloper appeared exactly as the sun station failed, and we both know what happened next
Hey sorry to bug you, but I finished the game with all the info and I don't get what you mean, maybe I missed out on something.
Would you mind explaining what alternative you mean please? :)
@Matthew Knoellinger ah I see! Yeah I remember that now, thanks!
@@clvr51
yeah I would help if I remembered what I meant. I just don't lol
@@lucaslucas191202 ahahahahahha no worries, another kind guy chimed in and reminded me!
Dang it. I thought it's gonna be about the Outer Worlds. I had no idea this game existed! Looks pretty interesting tho
He already did TOW
Im making a lets play on it right now! You should check it out! It's an amazing game
i prefer The Outer Wilds, its a really surprising game, and very satisfying. a pure joy
Outer Wilds is Game of the Year 2019 for just about anyone I know who got to complete it
@@PCGGC I usually play all the "obvious" titles on PS4, but this 100% is my game of the year, I want to forget it to play it all over again, and I'd chose to relive this over RDR2.
I'm kinda tearing up just hearing you re-tell the story.
I remember watching this video on release and stopping at the spoiler alert, you convinced me that I should play this game. Well it took a while but a week ago I finally played it and beat it yesterday. It was a beautiful experience, thanks for that.
Ghost matter passes through solid matter. That's why it didn't do anything to the comet. It is "ghost" matter, after all.
Also, it can pass through water, but the water nullifies it's chilling factor.
the explanation why you can’t directly fly towards the quantum moon is that it’s surrounded by cloud, effectively blocking it from your view when you pass through and therefore making it disappear
I've already completed the game, but when you mentioned the Tower of Quantum Trials, I was like "The what?!?"
Somehow I completely missed it.
You didn't figure that there would be somethin inside a tornado that could probably fit the interloper?
How did you figure out the rule of quantum imaging?
@@Clairembify probably a unlikely working idea for keeping the moon in place that turned out to work
Clairembify It's not that hard to figure out to be honest. For example, I sorta stumbled upon it when I found the quantum grove on timber hearth. I missed the quantum shard at the observatory and it was my first exposure to quantum behavior in the game, which made me super confused at first with the whole grove moving about, but once I realized what was going on, the first thing I did was checking if I can lock it in place with my camera. Of course, without context I just found it to be a cool curiosity and only later did I realize that it's actually part of the quantum puzzles.
I accidentally fell through the storm at the Pole and found it.
Around 33:00, you talk about the anglerfish being blind being something you need to go somewhere else to find, but you can actually tell by seeing the eyes and noticing they have no pupils; their eyes are entirely clouded over.
The idea of the dark bramble is that as you go in deeper and deeper, you're shrunk smaller and smaller till you're the size of atoms. Thats why it seems seemingly infinitely deep
Is this canon or just your interpretation?
@@7erdogdu from what I've heard it's very much implied but I dont think I've seen anywhere where it's outright stated.
I know if you follow one of the red lights really deep in dark bramble you'll come across a cluster of red orbs emitting light. Going from Magickid's description they might be a group of atoms. Pure speculation, maybe anglerfish eggs?
@@eoincronin6146 I'm pretty sure that's up to interpretation but it seems more likely to be angler eggs
@@7erdogdu The hearthian you find in there explains it pretty blatantly from what I can remember. Dark Bramble was once a small seed that kept expanding until it grew to the size of the planet and broke that apart (which is what you see in space). The ice outside and the ice near the jellyfish corpse is what Dark Bramble originally was.
The Outer Wilds is fantastic. You're missing out on Majora's mask though man, to not have even played it. It's an absolute classic.
Yeah. Majora's Mask IS fantastic. Played it the Christmas it came it when I was 16. More than twice that age now and I'm not sure I've played many games that are better. So very melancholy. So very incredible.
Don't bother. He seems to revel in being a contrarian that dislikes Nintendo games from what I've seen.
Meh. Majoras mask was a great game for it's time but to go back and play it now without nostalgia is just such a slog.
Nintendo consciously decided to cut off PC players from the community by not releasing it on the PC. That's their loss.
I like Microsoft policy lately. They allow you to play Xbox exclusive games on the PC. Yes. That's how you get money and support. Not by shunning every other platform.
@@protheu5 I mean it makes sense since Nintendo is a console manufacturer (and their consoles are probably the most popular among pc players) and Microsoft puts most of their games on PC for a reason, firstly because for like half of them you have to have W10 (since most of them are on the shitty windows store) so you still need to buy or have one of their product and secondly because the One sold pretty poorly and it didn't have enough exclusives to stand against the competition so they might aswell try to put it on a plateform that still benefits them and actually sells, once the next gen is out I don't think Microsoft will still be doing that and if they do they're pretty much shooting themselves in the foot
Don't get me wrong seeing Nintendo games on PC (or any other plateform for that matter) would be weird but definitely appreciated, I just don't think that it would be a good idea for them if they want to keep selling consoles
I think the moon makes slight sense because of the dust around it, when you enter it you are more blocked by the dust around it than actually begin able to see it, letting you warp trough it.
There's an in-game reason for the duplicate text. Those texts are conversations between two locations, and so there's a log of them at each location. You'll notice with the projection stones that some of the text is orange and some is blue. That represents which one is the local side vs the remote side of the conversation (I forget which is which). So when you find the same conversation twice, on one side, some of the text is blue, but on the other side, the text that was blue is orange
For the jellyfish, you have to enter underneath them WITHOUT your ship. Your ship is too big to fit.
This is kind of hinted, when you have to walk as an astronaut inside the preserved, frozen jellyfish where you first gain the information.
"flying a spaceship should be difficult but come on its not rocket science"
well actually...
Can't underestimate the power of hand-crafted content.
(Spoilers) Months later but I'm pretty sure the reason why the ghost matter could penetrate the comet is because the ice in the fissure was melted at the time. Poke was very concerned about the pressure the sun was putting on the dense contents of the comet, so that seems to imply that it exploded while the comet was close enough to the sun to allow for the ghost matter to shoot out immediately. If not for that, with all that pressure with nowhere for it to vent, maybe the Interloper itself would have exploded.
Yeah this is definitely one of my all time favourite games. I thought I’d hate it. Not only is the solar system small, but you’re on a timer. The complete opposite of massive open galaxy/universe games where you have total freedom and limitless time. But I think that’s what makes the game beautiful. The system is hand crafted with crazy attention to detail, and there’s this weird mix of joy and wonder and sadness as you see incredible sights and learn about the rich history of the Nomai, but come to understand how temporary everything is. In the game. In life.
I’ve seen things in Outer Wilds I’ve never seen in a game before. And that’s such an amazing feat. Oh and the score is amazing too. I finished the game weeks ago and I’m still whistling that damn theme everywhere I go.
I really enjoyed the discovery and was hyped almost the entire game they had so much great things to explore. extinction events, alien ruins, a signal older than the universe itself, quantum moon and tons of crazy alien technology.
Comet ice is mostly nitrogen, if I'm not mistaken. It would make sense that the ghost matter could go through it or through crevasses when it was next to the sun.
It's a masterpiece. I wish more people play it
SPOILERS (Regarding the Interloper and Ghost Matter)
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One hypothesis (want to be like a good Nomai and use the word "Hypothesis" correctly :) ) I've heard about the Interloper is that ghost matter was the result of some unknown alien race's disastrously failed experiments, which they swept under the metaphorical carpet by sealing it all inside an artificial comet and then shot it off into deep interstellar space, where, OBVIOUSLY, no one would ever see or hear of it again!
“You learn something new on every run” somebody is forgetting the runs where they autopilot into the sun
Well you, learn to be careful with the autopilot
After many loops… I learned the hard way autopilot is for pansys, I always fly myself me own ship so if I crash into something or I flew myself into the sun, I know that’s MY fault and I not someone else’s
The thing with Dark Bramble and the jellyfish is that it's way easier to do it by leaving your ship and going by jetpack.
Which is also absolutely terrifying to do
That's how I did it. Nothing quite like abandoning your ship in Dark Bramble. It gets me every time.
Something interesting is that you found the probe cannon had fired ~9000 times, but in my playthrough, that same recording device said that it took `~2,000,000 launched probes before it succeeded. However, I finished the game very recently so the devs might have adjusted that piece of text after launch.
Yeah, it was changed. I've watched multiple playthroughs of the game since beating it and some people get the ~9000 figure, and others get the ~2000000 figure, and it seems to be dependant on the time at which they played the game.
@@morfinny94 I distinctly remember it was 900 million for me.
They really pushed the amount of times the probe canon has shot. My game claimed it was over 9 million
I will say that with the quantum moon I think the implication is that if your vision of it is obscured it will teleport away, so when going into the clouds of it (the same clouds that are on the southside of the eye of the universe) your vision is obscured thusly the quantum moon poofs away. Other than that great review man, I really wish other people heard more about this game.
Also with dark bramble I believe we don't know how the bramble came over to the system but basically the planit wasn't the way it is now, instead it used to be a normal planet until one day the bramble got there and just destroyed the planet. the inside of the bramble seem to have space bending properties, why? ‾\_(ツ)_/‾
You should give Disco Elysium a go
This
Yes. Haven’t watched the video bc I haven’t played Outer Wilds yet, but I’m sure it’s a fantastic game. Maybe GOTY. But you GOTTA play Disco too before you make that call. Might just change your mind.
Yup I bet he loves it.
Too bad I can't finish DIsco elysium myself because after 9 hours the ingame sound stopped working and I can't get it to work again.. :(
Disco Elysium and baba is you where really superb
@@bnjkf9u3 Disco Elysium, baba is you, katana zero, outer wilds... 2019 was a awesome gaming year if you didn't rely on AAA games.
Ghost Matter is like a mist, small enough to travel through holes. There are tons of holes and passageways naturally formed in the Interloper. The core ruptured, and the ghost matter simply flew through the tunnels and likely out the crack that you use to enter the comet, where it then spread instantly throughout the system. It’s effects are indeed mitigated, if not completely nullified when in water, as shown in lore when the Hearthians were able to survive the rupturing core, and in gameplay where Gabbro’s island is hurled into space and dropped back into the sea, the ghost matter in a tunnel disappears and you can pass through the area safely.
The first seconds you summed up the brilliance of this game. Breezy quirkiness mixed with existential horror, all of it beautiful.
Fantastic game! I honestly had no clue what was going on at the end... it was amazing
This game filled me with joy. Such a bittersweet and fascinating game. Loved it.
Watching some of the reviews and gameplay demos of Outer Wilds one of my immediate thoughts was of No Mans Sky. More specifically, Sean Murry the creator. I couldn’t help but think of him playing this game and feeling some sadness upon the realisation that great games are far less about any technical achievement, than they are about what people feel when they play them. I’m sure he’s played this game. Hopefully it inspires him on his next project.
I didn’t have a problem with how the Anglerfish were handled. It’s spelt out to you in Ember Twin that they’re blind, and considering they’re in the area that forms the last part of the solar system you go to, before reaching the eye and hence the ending, it makes sense for the biggest challenge to be there. What I did have a problem with, was how you’re not really told at all, about how to get to station core in Ember Twin via teleportation. I had to look that up online.
I’m unsure whether this or Pathologic 2 is my GotY. Both left a pretty profound impact on me. Outer Wilds is more fun than Pathologic 2, but Pathologic 2 arguably advances the medium more with regards to games being art. It also has an extremely dense city. Both games know that smaller is often better when it comes to that sort of thing.
While i also had to look up how to get into ash twin after i did i realized i actually did have the answer the whole time and it just didn't connect.
But they've had to spell that out more in 2 different patches so maybe this was after one of them
My gripe with the angler fish was that they didn't make it clear what constituted noise. I was bright enough to realize that only using up to one notch of power was silent. I had to look that up, then felt incredibly dumb afterwards. But I loved the suspense of the Angler fish. Subnautica seemed too tame on the lack of lethality of their big bads. The anglers ending your run immediately and being difficult to get away from made them actually frightening, even once I know how to avoid waking them since you have to push the controls so lightly.
@@vVAstrAVv I also had to look up the ash twin thing! I thought both towers sent you to ember twin after going through one and felt ridiculous for not realizing it sooner. I only went to the core on my second to last run hahaha. That was embarrassing...
I loved this video! I can’t say that I feel the same about repeated text and info, though. Every time I spotted a projection stone, I hoped it was an Ash Twin Project one because I wanted to see it again!
For me, Outer Wilds is a game that got ruined by all the praise, I was expecting way more than it was, sadly.
So I think everyone got that one game that they thought they should love, everyone else loves, but you just.. eh.. Outer Wilds is a good game, I'd give it a 7,5/10ish - but it really didn't connect to me the same way it did with others and I'm ultra excited to hear why you loved it so much.
I thought the exploration was rather tedious and rarely rewarded you with interesting visuals or stories, especially ember twin and brittle hollow were awful to navigate and traverse, and most buildings used the same assets to the point where I didn't really look at houses anymore, they had the same skeleton and the same "scroll-case" standing there. To be fair, I played this game years after it's original hype, so I absolutely knew that I was in for a special ride and thus absolutely had high expectations: I knew this was good, I was sure I would love it.
Everything was .. fine, but never really reached that magic note. I was in a constant state of "yes, this is interesting, I'm sure this will lead to something really impressive - either visually or narratively!" .. but I just waited... and waited.. the whole game..
*Spoilers going forward:*
Giants Deep and Dark Bramble looked great, but there wasn't really a lot to do or see - And what we saw wasn't that impressive either, in my head I had way more interesting ideas. It all lacked some sort of scale or gravitas, which is kind of sad when talking about the literal end of the universe. I didn't really care about the nomai or my friends, I barely interacted with them. And when I did, we talked in an immersion breaking campy way - I witnessed the death of the universe and my character barely cared.
I get it, it's about the exploration and your own adventure, but when most the things I found were underwhelming.. I wasn't really excited about exploration anymore. I think exploration for the sake of exploration just doesn't work for me - So I wanted to find a great story, or impressive sci-fi visuals, which were both fine, but not worthy of 10/10 masterpiece reviews. I really loved the travel and movement mechanics, mario-galaxy-orbiting along the moons was very fun and felt great, gravity is always such a fun concept in games imo
Outer Wilds made me realize one thing: I rather think about a story that's presented to me, than work to find a story - I just don't have the curiosity to look for something I might not find interesting, especially if I am not invested in it yet
By far the best commentary on Outer Wilds out there !!!
So I think you criticized that in some puzzles you just have to notice atuff like the counter clockwise Tornados of Giants deep. But for everything there is a clue that explains it to you. I believe the Tornado thing is explained inside the Brittle Hollow Observation station.
Or was the critique that you can stumble on this by yourself without the clue?
23:29 - "Let's ["do The Thing"]!" (Redacted for Tier 2 spoilers)
My reaction: "You f***ers."
Best reviewer ever period. I have listened to your Metro videos with great pleasure. Infornative, deep and such a great calm voice. Great work!
It wasn't just this system. All systems were dying. Like, look up. Stars are turning blue and vanishing. Most of them are gone by the cycles end.
Apparently entropy has a runaway cart effect.
To explain how the ghost matter escaped, it escaped the same way you got into the Interloper. The energy from the sun when the comet gets close to the sun was the tick it needed to explode, and it would have exited the same way you came in, with the gap caused by the sun. It is strongly implied ghost matter operates like an electromagnetic wavelength and can travel through most objects, with water being a rare material that reflects it.
I’ve only really looked something up when I was completely stumped how to get into a certain room, or more prominently, getting through dark bramble. One example would be the statue room in Giants deep. Granted I felt stupid after realizing how simple it was.
The Statue Island in Giant's Deep was the funniest part of my playthrough. I swear I went to the planet looking for it specifically, and when I was flying around the ocean looking for it, IT FELL ON TOP OF MY SHIP. I didn't had to submerge and then emerge inside it, it did that work for me in reverse. I was laughing for a solid minute when that happened!
This happened to me only with how to reach Giants Deep Core and ATP… And after looking them up I felt genuinely stupid because:
A) I looked up every location of the warping towers in ash twin and somehow COMPLETELY MISSED the scroll in Black Hole Forge that literally gives you the answer
B) I knew the secret was around the Jellyfish and Feldspar used them, but I never connected the dots I had to go under it
All in all, I felt really dumb after spoiling me of the surprise.
I looked up how to get to the sun station (I knew where the warp was but not how to get in) when I already, not a few loops earlier went to the dried lake on ember twin and did the exact same thing but the opposite way, waiting for the sand to fill to get past a line of cacti.. I felt so dumb.
to be honest i think getting into the jellyfish and going through the anglerfish shouldnt be done with a ship its much easier at least for me to just do them with the jet pack
“I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.”
-me playing this game
His complaints about the puzzles he mentions makes me think of the one puzzle in the game that made me bitter enough to check on a guide just to realize I literally just got unlucky with every single one of almost a half dozen times I went to a location that I never realized something about it. The puzzles he complains about sound like gripes about his personal experience struggling with them, but I realize I would probably make the same complaint about the puzzle I couldn't get past. The revelation felt extremely mundane and left me criticizing how the puzzle was structured, while still recognizing that it was clever of the developers to make that puzzle.
I finished the game a couple days ago, but I didn't solve a lot of the Quantum mysteries, so it wasn't till I watched this video that I realized the Eye of the Universe is so named because it is the observer of the universe. 😮
The signal that the eye sent also looked like an eye to the nomai
I don’t know if I was tired that night but I fell asleep 15 minutes into this game. Maybe I’ll give it another go one day
Are you the same Chris Davis who completed the kick six against the Alabama in 2013
the comment about Zelda games triggered me. I know it doesn't matter and he included it for humor but this game's biggest inspirations were OoT and Majora's Mask and it really shows, both of those games are really enjoyable for a lot of the same reasons as this one
Majora's Mask for sure, but OoT? No way. What do you think is inspired directly by OoT in Outer Wilds?
I don't like the art style of Outer Wilds, but I like that there are only a few planets to explore, but then it felt kind of limiting to me. I like that landing a ship in No Man's Sky is much easier compared to Outer Wilds and that No Man's Sky lets me explore planets to my heart's content in Creative mode and the Creative Mode is the best feature of No Man's Sky. The downside of No Man's Sky is infinite planets and repetition and I don't like that I only have finite amounts of oxygen while exploring a planet. So what I would like is somewhere in between No Man's Sky and Outer Wilds: only a few planets to explore but no combat and nothing to worry about the danger aspects of Outer Wilds such as landing a ship without breaking the glass. Another critique of No Man's Sky is the copy-andddd-pasting of space stations that very much looked the same from star system to star system.
I played with Starship Simulator demo that is in work-in-progress and I am hopeful that the game will come out by the end of the year. I like what I have seen so far, especially the part where I can get the starship from cold-and-dark state to flight-ready mode and I love it a lot. In the meantime, I can just explore the underwater world of Subnautica in creative mode and that is what I like about. Oh, and at least I have Final Fantasy XII and The Talos Principle 1 and 2 to explore, now that I'm done with all the puzzles. I would always want to explore the worlds and outer space to my heart's content, but again, for space exploration, just not as infinite as No Man's Sky, but not smaller than Outer Wilds.
Oh, and I like the "no gameplay mechanics" aspects of the game called "Dear Esther," but it just felt too linear for my liking. It's just a walking simulator, which I like, but I realize walking simulators are not the same as open world genre. I tried Eastshade, but despite it claiming to be an open world game, it's not. You get rewarded for being a painter which I do not care about and that reward means more worlds to explore. I've have to collect feathers so I can pay the toll road. Don't get me wrong; I like puzzles and I like JRPG, but there are times when I would like to take a break from all the gameplay mechanics and just explore the worlds the way I want to explore. You know, just relax near the beach if you want to. And just explore the cities similar to Starfield but that meant that there's combat and I do not want to get into survival or combat if I do not want to.
That subtle dig at No Man's Sky though.
This is my favorite game, it beat out my other favs like halo 3, new Vegas. Super liminal, subnatica. It was truly a once in a lifetime game and I'm truly sad il never be able to play it blind again.
I have no free time & don't enjoy hanging out in media that's set in space & so will never play this game, but it's so obviously finely crafted and I was really curious about how the story comes together in the end. This was the perfect review to satisfy that curiosity; very cool of you to clearly mark the different levels of spoilers--for people who don't want them, obviously, but also for people like ME who just want to know whether the video is going to fully explain the plot to them finally, lol.
Also Majora's Mask is, like, fine & I know it's a Classic(tm) and all but it's super refreshing to hear An Video Games Person Online outright say those games are boring. They so are. I enjoyed wind waker back in the gamecube days + the "run around ignoring the plot" gameplay in botw is pleasant but I'm not about to give Nintendo credit for any of that when they refuse to use their insane amounts of money and clout to hire, like... any actual writers. at all. Zelda is a waste of video games.
I'm only just a few hours in but WOW this game is INCREDIBLE. It feels like genius developers made a game during a mushroom trip.
The game is very cleverly entwined such that exploring and learning about all the extra world building stuff is done because you think it'll help with the main puzzle/story aspect
Its a really great design technique to make learning the lore useful in progressing through the game. It can't be done in every game, but when it is done it pulls people into the story.
Only serious negative I had was the lack of a musical instrument for the player. The non-gamepad controls could probably be improved a bit as well.
Given the ending screen i just head cannoned that your characters instrument is the violin.
Should totally had a play instrument button for when the those times you stare into the oncoming supernovae.
Regarding the non-gamepad controls: since you cannot give just a hint of throttle using a keyboard, it is impossible to get past the 3 anglerfish when your flight path doesn't to let you drift past them by accident.
@@RISCy27 You do always drift past them though. Each time. But if you use a controller you can start accelerating at like 10% thrust a lot earlier.
Great now I have to go play this. Thanks!
Great video, and I totally agree with your handful of criticisms. Those anglerfish scared me so much that they were the only thing I had to spoil for myself and google a way to avoid them and get to the vessel. The quantum moon stumped me as well, purely for the weird camera trick to land on it. Had to do it after I'd already finished the game because I never figured it out on my own, it was the one thing I couldn't do myself. Other than that, it was truly an incredible game and I wish there were more like it out there.
Did you just not find the text that says how to handle the Anglerfish and Quantum moon or could you not figure it out? Just curious.
@@novosell9694 I knew how to deal with the fish, but I was do scared of them I wanted to know where they were in advance to avoid them more easily. I'm just a scared baby.
The moon stumped me because the method for landing on it was a little inconsistent with how every other quantum object works, since if I'm looking at it directly it shouldn't vanish. Also I would shoot the camera drone onto the moon to try and land on it but it didn't work, I didn't think just having a photo of the moon on-screen would still work.
25:50 The reason the ghost matter didn't kill the primitive Hearthians is not because of water but because they lived in their planet's metallic core and that core is made of a special ore that (somehow) shields them. The ore is special enough that the Nomai have mined it to line the Ash Twin Project chamber with. The Nomai even mention only mining just enough of the ore that they need, leaving enough to make sure the Hearthians will have resources on their planet when they evolve further.
No it actually was the water. Thats why all surviving life in the solar system is or was aquatic. Jellyfish anglerfish and protohearthian. Oh and plant life
@@vVAstrAVv Yes. If you pay very close attention, you can also notice on Gabbro's island that the ghost matter in the tunnel "disappears" while it's underwater.
The Outer Wilds was very special. Was most definitely GOTY 2019
Re Zelda: The "overrrated" argument for games always confuses me. Art is subjective and as such has to be judged subjectively. If, say, 80% of people who play a game like it, what makes it overrated. There must be something about the game that drew those people in, if the 20% say that the 80% are wrong, surely it's more likely for that 20% to be missing something that the other 80% value, rather than 80% of people seeing something that isn't there.
Counter point:
Call of duty is the best selling game every year
@@_-ghostfps-_8651 I personally don't like call of duty, but I wouldn't call it overrated. Something was done correctly for it to achieve the success it has and it's not for me to judge the games others choose to play.
@@bentaylor8299 that's not how it goes
It's fine that people dislike something
Especially old zelda titles they really didn't age gracefully
Which the cost your game pay when it's innovative
@@_-ghostfps-_8651 im not saying its not OK to dislike Zelda games, there are some I dislike. I'm saying the term overrated doesnt make much sense. Its something I used to say when I was 15, about games like call of duty in fact.
People say it because it gives them a sense of superiority, looking down on something with a knowledge fans of the series dont have. "That game you like? You're wrong, it is unworthy of your like."
Boring is different, Im more than happy for someone to call Zelda, CoD, Outer Wilds boring because its completely subjective. Overrated has an air of an objective truth about artfulness and enjoyment which is patently false
@@bentaylor8299 "overrated" is also subjective you know thay right?
Zelda games get a lot of praise
So if someone doesn't like said zelda games it means that these games are overrated in their eyes
this video quickly turned from a review into just a summary of the story
While the video is quite old, I figured I'd add this. The interloper explosion likely didn't wipe out timber hearth because the moon at the time was positioned perfectly to block the vast majority of the ghost matter. It's unclear how some still got to the planet, but compared to other planets the amount on timber hearth is decidedly low. You can tell the moon blocked the interloper explosion because of the giant crater full of ice crystals that seemingly used to be full of ghost matter. For whatever reason the matter is completely absent in the vacuum of space so it adds up that none is left on the moon. I assume this is because the gas is trapped in its solid state due to how cold it is in space
I assumed it did hit timber hearth, but the Hearthians were still a subterranean species at that time so it didn’t effect them
That's not in. Ghost matter doesn't have en effect under water (as demonstrated in the cave on Gabbro's island). The Hearthians were an aquatic species at the time (see the hints in the underwater tunnels on Timber Hearth) so survived the system-wide blast of ghost matter. Later they evolved onto land.
@@Yggdrasil42 yeah that makes more sense. Attlerock is really small so that kinda adds up
I personally didn't feel like the 2 puzzles you mention gate you off from progression more than any other. The whole game is about these intertwining threads so if you happened to have found those solutions late I wouldn't consider that a problem, because on the other hand I've seen people find those solutions immediately while playing, so it can happen in any order really. I do agree that the anglerfish one is more punishing since it resets the loop, but as long as you line up your entry, you can have considerable speed before entering the orange seed. I've even seen someone go in with just their suit on su the anglerfish wouldn't hear them at all
I liked the review and I know this might sound like Im a fanboy who is desperatly trying to defend this game but I really dont understand your points where you talked about the downsides. You criticised the way you have to land on the quantum moon but its basically a core mechanic of the game that is so fundamental that I honestly think you just have to accept it as what it is. Otherwise you could criticise the whole game and start to argue that its not realistic etc. Also I dont think its a bad thing that you cant "access" certain areas or planets until you find out how. This is also one of the core concepts of the game and I dont really understand why and how you criticise this. For me this was part of the fascination of the game, that when you get stuck somewhere and you dont know what to do you just visit another planet in the next timeloop until you find the bit of information and you remember what you can do with this knowledge. As you said its a Exploration and puzzle game. Explore, gain knowledge and piece it all together.
Yes this Video is from 2019 and the chances are low that anyone will ever read this but its just something I wanted to comment under this overall really well done critique. And sorry for my English, Im not a native speaker.
Outer Wilds is an incredible game and a fantastic surprise that adventure game fans should not miss out on. That being said, please tell me you've played Disco Elysium before you say your final dues on GOTY deliberations. Trust me on this one
Songbearer was about to say the same, nothing can beat disco elysium this year.
Only during like my thrid viewing of this did i realise you called him grabbo
I stopped watching before I got spoiled. You've convinced me to buy it :)
Fantastic game, I recommend it to anyone. Unique, interesting and atmospheric.
Excellent video. Definitely recommend this game to anyway interested. Stop watching right away though. I love how the game doesn't require leveling up skills and XP but just knowledge. If you know the trick you can finish the game in the first loop. No need to become the most powerful warrior or whatever first. Despite eventually figuring out the solution I was so intrigued by this solar system that I wanted to discover everything before moving on.
Good review. You seem intelligent in your writing, however, I question why you would pre-judge a game before even playing it whether it is good or not. (Regarding your Majora's mask comment) This kind of de-values any of your opinions for me.
it is confirmed that ghost matter has no effect while underwater, though it is still there. this can be seen on gabbros island after its dropped back from space
also I haven't seen many people struggle so much getting past the anglerfish school or into the jellyfish after having the knowlege
Is it weird that this reminds me of Beyond Good and Evil on some level? I've been trying to avoid watching much about the game before playing but I'm getting some kind of BG&E vibes from this.
i played BG&E and watched a few LPs of outer wilds. They both give you the sense of wonder and exploration that you get from diving into a detailed fantasy world.
I've heard very good things about this game, I'll have to check it out.
And oh yeah, Outer Worlds once it comes to Steam.
Did it ever?