Thanks for covering my experiment Brad! I'm one of the developers of Open Brush, we're going to make sure that this passthrough mode is fully supported for our 2.0 release, hopefully coming in time for xmas!
fun fact: it's a core openxr feature that i think every game engine supports out of the box. all you have to to do on the developer side is to render an alpha channel. so of course the only vendor that actually implemented it on the runtime side is varjo for their enterprise headsets
Mikesky - I haven't been in Open Brush in a while. Is it connected to a site where artists can upload their stuff like Tilt Brush was with Poly? I actually downloaded tons of artists stuff from there as I thought I'd lose access but I think others have saved the stuff and hosted it elsewhere.
Aint Pico4 and Quest2 using teh exact same aprooach?? using 4x B&W IR Tracking cameras + 1 RGB main shoter.. You take the depth data from the B&W tracking cameras and overlay that on top of the RGB camera feed, and it wil create a depth gimmick with depth data in the view.. try to look at something that is poking out, like a plant etc and you can see it.. its what also create that warping effect. The only reason between MetaPro and Pico4 to my understanding is that Meta have placed the two top B&W tracking cameras beside the RGB for a more ideal optimised depthdata stream in your direct view and not in your periphel view like Pico4, but weirdly enough they have used a way worse RGB camera then Pico4 so Pico4 is clearly delivering a cleaner and sharper RGB passthrough, as they RGB cam-sensor is higher resolution. But if anybody knows the sensor model names of these tracking cameras on the MetaPro and the RGB camera pls share, that info, as its often the same "off the shelf components that is bouncing around on tons of VR headsets with this tracking approach, and also to conclude its simply aint the same B&W IR tracking cams from Quest2 that just been optimised for direct ahead depth data, as it does look a lot like the same on the tear down vids..
I always figured it was possible because the stereoscopic cameras have always been available as a video source. I just never figured anything would be done with it.
Dude, the 3D-printer thing was crazy now that I think about it. We can literally have video-game-like pop-up UIs on IoT objects, potentially just replacing screens. Like this is crazy. View your fridge inventory, interact with a vending machine, confirm deliveries on Starship package delivery robots, or whatever. The possibilities are endless.
I love that purchasing the Index in 2021 is continuing to turn out to be a right choice. Love this HMD and the fact that stuff like this still comes to it is just a strong indication of how far ahead Valve was with their tech, even with the early problems the hardware had. Can't wait for what Deckard will bring to the table.
For real, when the Deckard launches I *really* want to get that. The customer support and forward-thinking Valve has is always so reassuring as a customer.
They're very ahead in tech. They want to integrate BCI into the gaming experience. Galea is their partner and are working on it. I don't think it's that far away and I think something like the apple VR would have BCI aswell
The first thing that came into my mind when I saw those cameras at the front was mr and ar and tracking It really surprised me when I heard that there was no mixed reality
This is great. Imagine inviting someone over to play along in VR. And while in the see through mode, create a really creepy something in the mirror. So that it looks like that is standing behind the person looking.... I am sure the effect will be priceless
I just noticed the vive pro eye and the vive development kit on the background, you could do some day a long video talking about all the headsets that you have or something like that, it would probably be very cool.
I used to be totally focused on VR, but I think I'm beginning to see the usefulness of MR/pass-through. I'm still not sold on viewing movies or other flat screen content inside a HMD, but maybe the coming generation of hardware with higher resolution and better lenses will make that more appealing. Good screen viewing would help enormously for productivity uses like 3D CAD where you really need to be working with technical materials and dealing with a lot of settings and data. Overall, though, simply being able to get a better view of your surroundings and set the usable space visually would be an improvement when using the Index.
BRAD PLEASE. Open a PO box, I will literally send you a USB cable for that NT-USB, you're killing me, it's like those unsatisfying videos. I love you very much, you're stressing me out man!
Awesome to see, thanks Brad for all the work you do for the community! Wish Valve did something with those cameras on release :( so much potential and not enough realization. I also think there was too much infighting on whether AR was worth any development for, I wish it was fought for more.
Lynx R1 is going to be huge ounce people understand it's use cases like you presented for the Valve Index here. The Lynx R1 is light, has great hand tracking and the best passthrough. Actually seeing this video convinced me I want the Lynx R1 above all other headsets, too bad still hasn't been realised.
I wonder if some clever developers can use this feature to have some sort of inside out tracking ? Would help massively for sim/flight enthusiasts to do away with the base stations and buy the headset on its own
I don't know if it would be possible, but I think it would be interesting if the software could do some kind of real-time photogrammetry like iphones can and make an accurate 3d save of a room. Maybe that would look less wacky than it does now
I don't know if it was COVID that caused it, but it feels like the VR industry went from full speed ahead to full stop in a matter of a couple of months. Things were progressing and the possibilities seemed huge, and then very little for several years. I'm hoping things pick up in a big way soon, particularly on the games side of things.
I installed the api layer, even see in in a toll called openxr explorer. Also installed openbrush. But this: "teamVR dashboard will have an additional button in the bottom left" I do not have that button. In fact on the left I do not have the 3rd and 4th button on my dashboard, and on the right I do not have the 2nd button. I do have the 4th button, the room view and that works of course. How fo you make those buttons show up?
I've been watching your vids for over a year now, love your updates! Anyway, please try taking off and rotating the quest pro's back headset cup. It's immensely more comfortable (@ least I think it is). You just need to put down to coasters when charging... Please give it a go, they detach relatively easily. Everyone's head shape is different, but my friends and I have found it to be a lot more comfortable ~
In a few decades shit like this will be probably normal not just at home but maybe even outside in a limited form with super compact headsets / or visors / glasses I guess. Stores and whatnot could have their own "digital space" and design it however, which customers could see and interact with, like making orders at a restaurant with 3d examples of the food, maybe have some decorative gimmicks floating around the place too or your stereotypical virtual dancers. At home you could place your desktop screen in various places and activate it when you're there so you could just enjoy some videos while doing work in the kitchen or have an interactive media player for your music.
Mixed Reality & AR could be more popular if things like Leap Motion and Webcams could actually be used to well do MR/AR. I want to try those features but apps like DeoVR added Passthrough support AFTER they stopped supporting Android Phones and I guess Apple phones. In this case DeoVR won't let you download the old APK and never used phone cameras and doesn't support cameras & webcams. UltraLeap's Leap Motion had planned for support for this but, never bore fruit, and a user Github to allow this seems dead, PLUS UltraLeap segmented their software by changing the "Leap.DLL" into "LeapC.DLL" breaking older apps for no real reason. Also, their have no backward compatiblity for legacy apps that use that "Leap.DLL" file. TLDR - I guess no company really pushed for broading MR/AR entry in respect to using generic cameras attached to headsets like the Rift CV1, Google Cardboard through iVRy, for example.
I might have missed it but how exactly do you set this up? I downloaded the installer from github and ran it as well as the redistributable prerequisite. My Index cameras look just the same as always. Nothing is different.
could you maybe make a tutorial on how to do the openbrush pass through thing I installed both things and went to experimental-beta branch but the game doesn't appear in passthrough
I think you have misunderstood what Pico4 and QuestPro does. using 4x B&W IR Tracking cameras + 1 RGB main shoter.. You take the depth data from th B&W tracking cameras and overlay thaton top of the RGB camera feed, and it wil create a depth gimmick with depth data in the view.. try to look at something that is poking out, like a plant etc and you can see it.. its what also create that warping effect. The only reason between MetaPro and Pico4 to my understanding is that Meta have placed the two top B&W tracking cameras beside the RGB for a more ideal optimised depthdata stream in your direct view, but weirdly enough they have used a way worse RGB camera then Pico4 so Pico4 is cleatrly delivering a cleaner and sharper passthrough, as they RGB sensor is higher resolution. But if anybod knows the sensor model names of these tracking cameras on the MetaPro and the RGB camera pls share, that info, as its often the same "off the shelf components that is bouncing around on tons of VR headsets with this tracking approach, and also to conclude its simply aint the same B&W IR tracking cams from Quest2 that just been optimised for direct ahead depth data.
Is it just a coincidence that we get similar features from Valve when Facebook develops it or was Valve really sleeping on their tech and has a lack of creativity? Anyhow, I'm glad they're back to adding more fun stuff
that's what i thought was already possible but somehow didn't work on my index. there's a button on the headset itself i thought you could press that to enable passthrough whilst playing games.
When I played a game on my quest 2 and then someone was in my guardian boundary so they showed up in game so I went to that double tap to show black and white cams and I seen a ghost run past me since I took it off and I assured my surrounding area of 20 feet was empty of people 😅and no people around just ghost 👻 , I think that is why they don’t turn it on for everyone
is there any option to set the brightness of the index-cams ? Mine are so dark that that i consider them useless. MR only make sense if i i don't need stadium lighting in my room. But great if that works.
Oh no, is that a Neo G9? Does yours actually work? I had one for about 2 hours, loaded it up, started playing Red Dead Redemption 2, and there were these terrible yellow lines visible whenever there's a white background due to the FALD, and pro tip, RDR2 opens on a snow level... Packing up the 45 lb like 6 ft monitor to ship back was not fun, and kinda nerve racking since it was like $2.5k at the time.
This was fun to test, but made me aware again that mixed reality won't do much for me for a long time, as none of the cameras on headsets work very well in low light conditions. Lighthouse tracking allows me to play even in the dark, I also can't see camera based tracking completely replacing it.
Pass through mode on the index just straight up don't work for me, it's worked for about half a second max, then it turned itself off and never worked again
Brad I thought I saw something new in my feed about new vr controllers coming out but I literally lost it while in the middle of watching something else. I don’t think it’s deckard related but have you heard anything?
Hmm.. I wonder if one could set this up to be able to use a DJ controller with its software window and also be able to see the club in VR. Is it possible to switch between modes easily? Or is there a better solution..
If you mean a VRC club with an IRL DJ controller, you could do it with the passthrough mode in steamvr set to transparent color and a docked window with your DJ software of choice. That way you'd be able to see both what's going on in the game as well as the IRL DJ controller, though I do personally find looking at 2 worlds at once distracting.
@@neonvoid true, just when looking at text, it's easy to see it's limits. And when paying attention you can make out the individual pixels. Also, the fresnel lenses are vastly surpassed by pancake or aspheric lenses these days. But it's interesting to see how none of the other headset manufacturers can use these improvements in technology to make a headset that surpasses the Index in all areas and just works!
They work on Linux it's just a normal DMA webcam, but SteamVR for Linux is buggy, for OpenVR and OpenXR doesn't have native camera access, because of privacy concerns.
I think MR can be useful in the right circumstance, but a lot of the time I'd rather have a nice locking hinge so I could just lift the headset without having to take my headphones and controllers off every time I want to do something out of the VR
mixed reality is good for room setup or when you feel claustrophobic ..AR gaming is lame and gimmicky imo. the index has a button on the right side i think idk my index been inside a box collecting dust..i read somewhere that you can hold that button and switch between VR and AR, but that didn't work on my end. what's the point of that button anyway? Power button? It doesn't do anything when i hold it or press it.
As a QPro and Index owner, said it before, I'll say it again: Imagine my disappointment to discover that the much-talked about Passthrough Future manifested in my $1500 Fancy Facebook Hat still has all the quality-level of the 3D cameras found on the Nintendo 3DS. That grainy, funhouse-mirror, soupy hot mess doesn't appear to have improved over something released 11 years ago.
Thanks for covering my experiment Brad! I'm one of the developers of Open Brush, we're going to make sure that this passthrough mode is fully supported for our 2.0 release, hopefully coming in time for xmas!
Nice work! Was truly shocked to see how fast you implemented it, haha. Thanks again
fun fact: it's a core openxr feature that i think every game engine supports out of the box. all you have to to do on the developer side is to render an alpha channel. so of course the only vendor that actually implemented it on the runtime side is varjo for their enterprise headsets
Dude, you’re a legend
Mikesky - I haven't been in Open Brush in a while. Is it connected to a site where artists can upload their stuff like Tilt Brush was with Poly? I actually downloaded tons of artists stuff from there as I thought I'd lose access but I think others have saved the stuff and hosted it elsewhere.
Aint Pico4 and Quest2 using teh exact same aprooach??
using 4x B&W IR Tracking cameras + 1 RGB main shoter..
You take the depth data from the B&W tracking cameras and overlay that on top of the RGB camera feed, and it wil create a depth gimmick with depth data in the view.. try to look at something that is poking out, like a plant etc and you can see it.. its what also create that warping effect.
The only reason between MetaPro and Pico4 to my understanding is that Meta have placed the two top B&W tracking cameras beside the RGB for a more ideal optimised depthdata stream in your direct view and not in your periphel view like Pico4, but weirdly enough they have used a way worse RGB camera then Pico4 so Pico4 is clearly delivering a cleaner and sharper RGB passthrough, as they RGB cam-sensor is higher resolution.
But if anybody knows the sensor model names of these tracking cameras on the MetaPro and the RGB camera pls share, that info, as its often the same "off the shelf components that is bouncing around on tons of VR headsets with this tracking approach, and also to conclude its simply aint the same B&W IR tracking cams from Quest2 that just been optimised for direct ahead depth data, as it does look a lot like the same on the tear down vids..
Is it a brush ? Is it a comb ? No, it's a 3D custom print rendition of an IR lights projector to play VR in pitch darkness !
Whoa. Adding the 3d printer window at the 3d printer location is dope.
i felt very clever xd
seems like if you calibrated the print bed area it'd be awesome to see the size of the print being make before being pushed to the 3d printer. :)
I never would have thought the index would be capable of AR, that's really cool
same lol
@@SadlyItsBradley it's crazy how the index is still a viable headset after 4 years
I always figured it was possible because the stereoscopic cameras have always been available as a video source. I just never figured anything would be done with it.
Quickly grabbing a beer with the pass through is how you knock your beer over and have to spend the next 10 minutes cleaning beer off everywhere
Dude, the 3D-printer thing was crazy now that I think about it. We can literally have video-game-like pop-up UIs on IoT objects, potentially just replacing screens. Like this is crazy. View your fridge inventory, interact with a vending machine, confirm deliveries on Starship package delivery robots, or whatever. The possibilities are endless.
I love that purchasing the Index in 2021 is continuing to turn out to be a right choice. Love this HMD and the fact that stuff like this still comes to it is just a strong indication of how far ahead Valve was with their tech, even with the early problems the hardware had. Can't wait for what Deckard will bring to the table.
For real, when the Deckard launches I *really* want to get that. The customer support and forward-thinking Valve has is always so reassuring as a customer.
it’s 2022
bro's from the past 🗿
They're very ahead in tech. They want to integrate BCI into the gaming experience. Galea is their partner and are working on it. I don't think it's that far away and I think something like the apple VR would have BCI aswell
The first thing that came into my mind when I saw those cameras at the front was mr and ar and tracking It really surprised me when I heard that there was no mixed reality
This is great. Imagine inviting someone over to play along in VR. And while in the see through mode, create a really creepy something in the mirror. So that it looks like that is standing behind the person looking.... I am sure the effect will be priceless
This is so awesome, looking forward for more ways to use this!
Especially with more comfortable headsets, huge potential right there
saluting to your old monitor
wah
I just noticed the vive pro eye and the vive development kit on the background, you could do some day a long video talking about all the headsets that you have or something like that, it would probably be very cool.
I used to be totally focused on VR, but I think I'm beginning to see the usefulness of MR/pass-through. I'm still not sold on viewing movies or other flat screen content inside a HMD, but maybe the coming generation of hardware with higher resolution and better lenses will make that more appealing. Good screen viewing would help enormously for productivity uses like 3D CAD where you really need to be working with technical materials and dealing with a lot of settings and data. Overall, though, simply being able to get a better view of your surroundings and set the usable space visually would be an improvement when using the Index.
BRAD PLEASE. Open a PO box, I will literally send you a USB cable for that NT-USB, you're killing me, it's like those unsatisfying videos. I love you very much, you're stressing me out man!
This looks great! Valve should've done a better job in supporting this feature.
Awesome to see, thanks Brad for all the work you do for the community! Wish Valve did something with those cameras on release :( so much potential and not enough realization. I also think there was too much infighting on whether AR was worth any development for, I wish it was fought for more.
Can I get a thumbs up from Brad?!
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Finally! Passthrough is useful for more than helping me not kick my cat. Can't wait to play around with this.
Pretty sure that mysterious object in the intro is valve deckard controller confirmed.
Passthrough AR/VR is the (near-term) future!!
This is really amazing omg....
Thank you and great work as always Brad!
Glad you enjoyed it
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@@wettoasty5805 ayy
I love the comb. I have the same one. Very good for scalp
Lynx R1 is going to be huge ounce people understand it's use cases like you presented for the Valve Index here. The Lynx R1 is light, has great hand tracking and the best passthrough. Actually seeing this video convinced me I want the Lynx R1 above all other headsets, too bad still hasn't been realised.
I wonder if some clever developers can use this feature to have some sort of inside out tracking ? Would help massively for sim/flight enthusiasts to do away with the base stations and buy the headset on its own
Monado OpenXR runtime can do it.
Got good taste in music
hell ya
@@SadlyItsBradley know the name of that music video you pinned to wall? I'm really curious. 😏
@@NewtrendsMe lagtrain
@@SadlyItsBradley Thanks. Enjoy your videos. Things are heating up in the AR/VR/MR space. 2023 could be a pivotal year.
I don't know if it would be possible, but I think it would be interesting if the software could do some kind of real-time photogrammetry like iphones can and make an accurate 3d save of a room. Maybe that would look less wacky than it does now
How cool would it be to import the 3d model and overlay it onto where it's about to be printed, and watch it become solid.
I don't know if it was COVID that caused it, but it feels like the VR industry went from full speed ahead to full stop in a matter of a couple of months. Things were progressing and the possibilities seemed huge, and then very little for several years. I'm hoping things pick up in a big way soon, particularly on the games side of things.
I installed the api layer, even see in in a toll called openxr explorer.
Also installed openbrush.
But this: "teamVR dashboard will have an additional button in the bottom left"
I do not have that button.
In fact on the left I do not have the 3rd and 4th button on my dashboard, and on the right I do not have the 2nd button. I do have the 4th button, the room view and that works of course.
How fo you make those buttons show up?
I'm wondering if this would be possible using the Reverb G2 v2...
Only lighthouse driver HMDs from what I understand
@@SadlyItsBradley Well crap. Thanks! I keep hoping Varjo will come to their senses and start charging a reasonable price for the x3...
I've been watching your vids for over a year now, love your updates! Anyway, please try taking off and rotating the quest pro's back headset cup. It's immensely more comfortable (@ least I think it is). You just need to put down to coasters when charging... Please give it a go, they detach relatively easily. Everyone's head shape is different, but my friends and I have found it to be a lot more comfortable ~
3:53 lag train! Nice!
love the zero two shirt!
Overlay of OBS capturing color camera. Great for eating in VR
Nice shirt Brad.
In a few decades shit like this will be probably normal not just at home but maybe even outside in a limited form with super compact headsets / or visors / glasses I guess. Stores and whatnot could have their own "digital space" and design it however, which customers could see and interact with, like making orders at a restaurant with 3d examples of the food, maybe have some decorative gimmicks floating around the place too or your stereotypical virtual dancers. At home you could place your desktop screen in various places and activate it when you're there so you could just enjoy some videos while doing work in the kitchen or have an interactive media player for your music.
Extremely cool.
Mixed Reality & AR could be more popular if things like Leap Motion and Webcams could actually be used to well do MR/AR. I want to try those features but apps like DeoVR added Passthrough support AFTER they stopped supporting Android Phones and I guess Apple phones.
In this case DeoVR won't let you download the old APK and never used phone cameras and doesn't support cameras & webcams.
UltraLeap's Leap Motion had planned for support for this but, never bore fruit, and a user Github to allow this seems dead, PLUS UltraLeap segmented their software by changing the "Leap.DLL" into "LeapC.DLL" breaking older apps for no real reason. Also, their have no backward compatiblity for legacy apps that use that "Leap.DLL" file.
TLDR - I guess no company really pushed for broading MR/AR entry in respect to using generic cameras attached to headsets like the Rift CV1, Google Cardboard through iVRy, for example.
Of the existing vr headsets, which has the best POV in passthrough to match the eyes' POV?
For VR? I still feel index hits that.. but the PPD is just so low these days
Whoah this is poggers
I might have missed it but how exactly do you set this up? I downloaded the installer from github and ran it as well as the redistributable prerequisite. My Index cameras look just the same as always. Nothing is different.
could you maybe make a tutorial on how to do the openbrush pass through thing I installed both things and went to experimental-beta branch but the game doesn't appear in passthrough
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hey aayush
More software updates please love this stuff great to see what functionality j am missing out on lol I not so sad to see ya Bradly
I think you have misunderstood what Pico4 and QuestPro does.
using 4x B&W IR Tracking cameras + 1 RGB main shoter..
You take the depth data from th B&W tracking cameras and overlay thaton top of the RGB camera feed, and it wil create a depth gimmick with depth data in the view.. try to look at something that is poking out, like a plant etc and you can see it.. its what also create that warping effect.
The only reason between MetaPro and Pico4 to my understanding is that Meta have placed the two top B&W tracking cameras beside the RGB for a more ideal optimised depthdata stream in your direct view, but weirdly enough they have used a way worse RGB camera then Pico4 so Pico4 is cleatrly delivering a cleaner and sharper passthrough, as they RGB sensor is higher resolution.
But if anybod knows the sensor model names of these tracking cameras on the MetaPro and the RGB camera pls share, that info, as its often the same "off the shelf components that is bouncing around on tons of VR headsets with this tracking approach, and also to conclude its simply aint the same B&W IR tracking cams from Quest2 that just been optimised for direct ahead depth data.
Was waiting for years .... and now the end is near
AR was possible since OG Vive. There is some anime card game on steam, which puts anime girl in your room.
0:03 How could you not know what _your wife's hairbrush is_ , Brad?
- AcademicInside
Is it just a coincidence that we get similar features from Valve when Facebook develops it or was Valve really sleeping on their tech and has a lack of creativity?
Anyhow, I'm glad they're back to adding more fun stuff
someone should absolutely make a steamvr overlay that lets you enable this passthrough while idling not playing any games. that'd be awesome
that's what i thought was already possible but somehow didn't work on my index. there's a button on the headset itself i thought you could press that to enable passthrough whilst playing games.
@@n9ne oh?? i have a vive, i wouldn't know; the button on the side of mine just opens steamvr
holy shit ~3.5 years ago???
When I played a game on my quest 2 and then someone was in my guardian boundary so they showed up in game so I went to that double tap to show black and white cams and I seen a ghost run past me since I took it off and I assured my surrounding area of 20 feet was empty of people 😅and no people around just ghost 👻 , I think that is why they don’t turn it on for everyone
is there any option to set the brightness of the index-cams ? Mine are so dark that that i consider them useless. MR only make sense if i i don't need stadium lighting in my room.
But great if that works.
Oh no, is that a Neo G9?
Does yours actually work? I had one for about 2 hours, loaded it up, started playing Red Dead Redemption 2, and there were these terrible yellow lines visible whenever there's a white background due to the FALD, and pro tip, RDR2 opens on a snow level...
Packing up the 45 lb like 6 ft monitor to ship back was not fun, and kinda nerve racking since it was like $2.5k at the time.
Pico 4 actually has depth correct view now. So much easier... The colors get a bit smudged but the software is getting updates.
Came for Deckard news
Gets shown hidden features of some 4 year old retro-ware
This was fun to test, but made me aware again that mixed reality won't do much for me for a long time, as none of the cameras on headsets work very well in low light conditions.
Lighthouse tracking allows me to play even in the dark, I also can't see camera based tracking completely replacing it.
I use the Index cameras to stream VR in mixed reality with my real hands and arms replacing the one in the VR game!
Hi Brad
hai
Nice
Do you know of any tools to make a portal to the real world so you can see your mouse and keyboard area?
Are you interested in SlimeVR?
hi brad
Everytime I have convinced myself to wait to buy an Valve Index then a video like this gets posted...thanks a lot, Brad! ;)
I’m really sorry. I mostly wanted current index users to try this out rather than entice people to buy an index 🫠
@@SadlyItsBradley Nah man it's all luv! Thanks for the informative video!
Can this be used to put a floating monitor and play lightgun games?
Pass through mode on the index just straight up don't work for me, it's worked for about half a second max, then it turned itself off and never worked again
Awesome! Hope to see some of this implemented in Deckard (or Deckard's spiritual successor)
Am I tripping or does this passthrough *STILL* look better than the Quest Pro?
你终于又来了
2D or 3D passthrough?
It’s binocular. But it doesn’t provide depth correction
So in theory, the pico 4 cold do better than the index interms of XR?
Ya, probably. Its much newer
Brad I thought I saw something new in my feed about new vr controllers coming out but I literally lost it while in the middle of watching something else. I don’t think it’s deckard related but have you heard anything?
Working on a video
@@SadlyItsBradley is it DPVR E4?
Why are you using old soft for 3D printer? Use Klipper with decent modern UI :)
Will look into Klipper. Thanks!
LG C1/2 120hz OLED screens 42-48in is more cheaper then Index and Q-Pro..... And their spectacular! No VR can touch em!
I honestly do think AR intergration will be 2023 for VR
Hmm.. I wonder if one could set this up to be able to use a DJ controller with its software window and also be able to see the club in VR. Is it possible to switch between modes easily? Or is there a better solution..
Irl club? I think you could already do some hacky things using this +open brush here to do what you want 👀
If you mean a VRC club with an IRL DJ controller, you could do it with the passthrough mode in steamvr set to transparent color and a docked window with your DJ software of choice. That way you'd be able to see both what's going on in the game as well as the IRL DJ controller, though I do personally find looking at 2 worlds at once distracting.
The hell was that in your hand at the start?
Cool ,if they somehow make it SBS would be even better =) cheers!
can i have mixed reality with cv1+leapmotion?
This interfaces with lighthouse drivers I believe
Are you aware of Reality Mixer on Steam?... Really cool little app to blend in your real keyboard or controller into VR ...
Yep. Totally aware. Haven’t gotten to cover it yet 😅
what's the anime of the person on your shirt?
I love the index. It's the absolute best. It was so much ahead of its time it was hard to cognitively process.
Exept for it's resolution, but so far I'm not changing it for anything else, even after trying the Pimax Crystal.
@@lorsch. the pixel arrangement is fantastic, resolution is not just numbers
@@neonvoid true, just when looking at text, it's easy to see it's limits. And when paying attention you can make out the individual pixels.
Also, the fresnel lenses are vastly surpassed by pancake or aspheric lenses these days.
But it's interesting to see how none of the other headset manufacturers can use these improvements in technology to make a headset that surpasses the Index in all areas and just works!
This video isn't showing up in my subscription feed for some reason...
How come my Index Cameras have distortion around my hands, and light??? Could anyone help me fix??
Turn off Room View 3D in camera settings
@@SadlyItsBradley wouldn't this make the passthrough messy as well?
@@TaylorToonz pick your poison 😅
@@SadlyItsBradley Sadly, this is very true. lol. I wish Steam would actually work on this.
AR is the future of many activities, where is meta on this? All those game board nerds alone would give it strong initial hype.
I just to be able to see my key board/joystick while I play!!!!!
Lol from my HoloLens
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Bro the Index can do this? Man, Valve is slacking… they should have opened support for this a long time ago!
Those Valve Index cameras need Linux support!
They work on Linux it's just a normal DMA webcam, but SteamVR for Linux is buggy, for OpenVR and OpenXR doesn't have native camera access, because of privacy concerns.
I think MR can be useful in the right circumstance, but a lot of the time I'd rather have a nice locking hinge so I could just lift the headset without having to take my headphones and controllers off every time I want to do something out of the VR
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mixed reality is good for room setup or when you feel claustrophobic ..AR gaming is lame and gimmicky imo.
the index has a button on the right side i think idk my index been inside a box collecting dust..i read somewhere that you can hold that button and switch between VR and AR, but that didn't work on my end. what's the point of that button anyway? Power button? It doesn't do anything when i hold it or press it.
Yes it’s basically the same as the system button on index controllers. Allows navigation of menus without controllers connected too.
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Those cameras were dog though
As a QPro and Index owner, said it before, I'll say it again:
Imagine my disappointment to discover that the much-talked about Passthrough Future manifested in my $1500 Fancy Facebook Hat still has all the quality-level of the 3D cameras found on the Nintendo 3DS.
That grainy, funhouse-mirror, soupy hot mess doesn't appear to have improved over something released 11 years ago.
holy shot you have a wife?