Post Finasteride Syndrome: Is the Incidence Significant?
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Today, I will discuss post-finasteride syndrome (PFS) and if the incidence is significant.
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I'm surprised that a huge channel about hair loss is recognizing this condition. Well done, guys!
They were basically laughing about the possibility of it being real in their last video about it. With that arrogance and denial, they've actually caused the condition for some people who trusted them. This video is just damage control on their part because they've started to realise that it's real. And they're supposed to be the "medical professionals"... 😅
The lack of awareness about these products is insane! I was actually watching your videos before taking Finasteride; you mentioned minimizing the dose, which I did. As a result, yeah I got the 5 ari disease. But guess what? I recovered to the point where I can say that I followed Ryan Russo’s approach on YT, and it worked for me. This condition is 100% reversible, some people don't want other people to know that you can reverse out of that, I will say it like that. I wasn’t getting better until I took action. Again, I did exactly what Ryan Russo did. It was extreme and unconventional, but I needed out of there. I'm young and I've dreams to accomplish, which now I am going to be able to do it. I thank Ryan Russo everyday! God bless him so much! Now, I’m back to normal life. And I'm now aware that compounds like SSRIs, Finasteride, Accutane, Saw Palmetto, Lion’s Mane, etc are a roll of 🎲.
Good for you bro. Been suffering for over a year and been working with Alex Kikel but not had much improvement yet
According to Reuters, the FDA received more than 700 reports of suicidal thoughts and deaths by suicide among users of Propecia or its generic versions, including at least 100 deaths.
Some reports suggest that finasteride may be linked to depression and anxiety because men with depression may have lower levels of allopregnanolone, a neurosteroid produced by the 5α-reductase enzyme that has antidepressant and anxiolytic effects
Well, most of my family on my fathers side has balding issues, thus all of them are on Finasteride and they report no issues as far as I know.
@@amateur_football9751good for them, but has nothing to do with the report
PFS is MORE THAN ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION!
I developed this after watching your other videos convincing me of its safety!
Same bro
This is very odd. In your last video on this topic you strongly refuted the existence of pfs and now you seem to be suggesting that it's real. I assume in another few years you'll be suggesting us not to take this medication at all given the risk. A little late for us sufferers....
I think they are realising it’s real. When the studies come out as-well proving it is real, they are going to look very incompetent
Started getting symptoms for PFS after two weeks on finasteride. Severe insomnia, tinnitus, appetite gone, low to zero libido, constipation, all started occuring one after another in about a week and lasted 1,5 months before getting to the point I could go back to work. Didn't even know what PFS was until I connected my sudden illness to me starting the finasteride treatment.
I desperately hope that this gets taken more seriously and investigated since a product like this should be safe or at least labelled correctly. Know a lot of young men on some of these forums have sadly taken their own lives after having suffered from PFS for years without getting any better and that is just not right.
I'm a post meno woman with a history of anxiety. My doc told me PFS is real with some having suicidal ideation, depression and neuro effects. We decided this medication is not good for me and will try Spironolactone. I'm scared of that med as well but this hairloss is traumatic. 😢
Thanks for sharing. I had suicidal ideation and depression and I didn't realize it was PFS>
Sorry u went through that. Sounds like u are better. @@DillonMeng
Sorry to hear this, what dose were you on?
Don't try Spironolactone....It can destroy you like Finasteride...There will be a video next week on the RUclips channel MoralMedicine about a patient who is suffering from permanent side effects because of this drug.
You have no idea what risk you are taking with this drug, so please don't do it.
Don't take this drug...it can have the same devastating permanent side effects as Finasteride causes. There will be a video released next week on MoralMedicine (RUclips) about a women who took it and her life got absolutely destroyed by this. You have no idea what risk you're taking..
10 years on Fin. No obvious side effects. Saved my hair. Praise the Lord we live in a time where Fin is available ❤
10 years ? really. i just paid for the subscription today wich is why im here watching videos now.
Do u have kids
Lord Jesus Christ
Most medicine regulators now acknowledge and warn of the potential for persistent symptoms, particularly genital and psychiatric symptoms. The UK and Canada recently issued new warnings about ongoing symptoms after stopping. More research into the condition is underway so expect further warnings from regulators in the future.
I am 19 years old. Since I was 15, I’ve been thinning out little by little. The trichologist yesterday prescribed me to take dutaxeride 0.5 mg every day. I would like to know how it affects health, especially the health of a still growing organism. sometimes there were comments on a passage, which was bad, but there was no complete picture.
According to Reuters, the FDA received more than 700 reports of suicidal thoughts and deaths by suicide among users of Propecia or its generic
versions, including at least 100 deaths.
Some reports suggest that finasteride may be linked to depression and anxiety because men with depression may have lower levels of allopregnanolone, a neurosteroid produced by the 5α-reductase enzyme that has antidepressant and anxiolytic effects
DONT DO IT !!!!!!
Why on earth man?? You're completely changing your endocrine system. It will not just bounce back to normal. Have you not paid attention to all the sufferers ? Dutasteride is extremely detrimental neurologically and physically. You're changing the trajectory of your life and future. Absolutely horrific idea. Prayers for you and get to recovering 🙏🏻. The Dr who gave you that should be ashamed of themselves
PFS. Is a lie for weak baldies guys.
I take finasteride 4 days a week. I think key is not taking it every and keeping a healthy lifestyle
Last time I was 9 months of fin, quit cold turkey, now looking back analyzing all I can say is the sides are real. Most of us just don;t get to observe it closely.
I got humiliated by one of my friends in front of everyone that I am losing memory, getting dull or re*/ tarded, slow response, lack of attention, depressed....they saw it, my mental health....FIrst I felt bad, but I took it as constructive criticism and realized how bad it got. slow understanding catching up...for this, some even quuit jobs...yes I had to pause my mentorship as well...
I will never ever dare to mess with my hormones again...
External issue, I can deal with it no prob right now, RISK vs REWARD. I embrace baldness now..
But internal issue like mental health, Man!!! I want to save it with my life....
Now I can see why I was enjoying crying, mind was always looking for the negative down sides picking it.....sad story, misery etc....
Very hard to believe that fin caused all this. Mental health is a super fragile thing and it's so easy to get the nocebo effect while taking fin, aka. you blame the drug for every bad thing that is happening to you
@@adamcsontos2421 its fin bro...i stop fin for few days mood felt better, but i took fin and next day feel the other....i observed it closely..yes ur ryt..mental health is something fragile.people without fin also gets super depressed etc...but for my case it was the fin, physical sides 100% with proof and mental sides are my inner observation....I quit fin i feel better even when im supposed to get depressed i dont anymore...
its like during adversity depression with fin, you choose to feel the misery deeply, feeling paralyzed...but without fin you keep finding solutions like a healthy person...thats my case...and my nature....ofc everyone is different....
@@batmanbillions Its certainly more likely you had nocebo from taking it and placebo from stopping.
Lol that has nothing to do with Finasteride. You're dumb for making this statement.
@@adamcsontos2421 The things he is describing are know side-effects of fin. Mind fog, lack of concentration, depression, etc. I got tired and less sociable only after increasing my dosage after 9-10 months. I could barely sleep anymore.
I take 1MG 4 times a week.. M/W/F and Sunday at 12AM and have been doing this for going on 3 years now. I still see hairs falling out, but it seems to have maybe slowed down just a bit. I'm 61 and still have a really good head of hair. Just some thinning on the crown. I have no side effects at all. In fact, I'm actually more "frisky" than I was before. What's up with that????
do you ever feel like crying? feel depressed.. memory problems bro...and frequent urination etc. Mental sides are often ignore or unnoticed.
@@batmanbillions Nope! Not at all.
Might be due to increased testosterone, fin blocks conversion of T into DHT, so you might have more testosterone left than before. Sometimes T coverts into estrogen and gyno develops, lucky you did have this side effect.
If you're 60... why bother?
@@hellowill why bother ever in that case, if you want hair you can have hair.
it destroyed my life
😂😂😂😂 You made a whole acc to take out the competition?
@@maalikserebryakov wut?
@@PostFinasterideSyndromeNorway bro I thot u real...u tryna sell something? I checked ur channel b
@@batmanbillions nah just trying to warn people.
@@PostFinasterideSyndromeNorway thats great...as far as I know every meds has sides...
I would prefer natural sunlight rather than supplements of vit D ..
just like that
I take finasteride for 2 months now and i have no side effects at all. Hope it stays so
If you do have side effects, the medication is still effective as low as 3 or 4x per week instead of daily. I used to have minimal side effects taking every day so i have been on 3-4x a week for years now and i keep my hair
it destroyed my life be careful
What happened bro@@PostFinasterideSyndromeNorway
@@slayergaming5012 life destroyed
that's good no side effects yet keep an eye on it but my opinion your probably safe
20th May will mark my 7-year anniversary on finasteride 1mg daily. I think those claiming side effects often have other lifestyle impacts such as alcohol and drug use, smoking and poor diet.
Im healthy af (keto, never smoke, never drink, cardio 3x a week) and still got pains so bad that I could barely sit. It depends on the person.
@@v.5442Maybe it's the keto. I tried keto and it's overrated TBH
No drugs and no alcohol and i get side effects from fin. It has nothing to do with your statement it has to do with individual body chemistry.
The only side effect i have now is lack of sleep.
that's not finasteride lol
also urge to urinate frequent?
And the odds of that being from fin are... almost 0%.
@@batmanbillions Yes, that too.
@@fizeekpoaster What is it then ? do you know more about this condition ?
Is Xyon Finasteride and Dutestaride topical application effective?
According to Reuters, the FDA received more than 700 reports of suicidal thoughts and deaths by suicide among users of Propecia or its generic versions, including at least 100 deaths.
Some reports suggest that finasteride may be linked to depression and anxiety because men with depression may have lower levels of allopregnanolone, a neurosteroid produced by the 5α-reductase enzyme that has antidepressant and anxiolytic effects
How to know for sure if you are having side effects?
Look up what side effects it has and see if you have them. Be extremely careful and constantly check.
I personally had to stop it after 10 months after taking it topically (0,1-0,3mg daily), because I had unbearable pain in my cherries.
@@v.54420,3 mg topically is very łów, you are trolling
@@v.5442 if you are "careful" enough you can convince yourself you have loads of side effects. Don't forget to scare yourself shitless listening to bald flat earthers online.
@@michaeljames3912 One of the reasons you have to take potential side effect risks more seriously than the studies imply, is because there are serious conflicts of interests in almost every study on fin that I read.
I had no side effects for 10 months, after which I started getting physical and unbearable pain. The side effects are real for a lot more men than the 'studies' imply.
The reason you have to be careful is because damage can be done that becomes irreversable or long-lasting if you don't notice them early.
@@michaeljames3912 You have to be careful because:
- most fin side effect studies have serious conflicts of interest
- some damage can be done without you noticing it
Personally, I had little side effects for 10 months until I couldn't sit due to the pain. I was lucky that the pain resided after a month, but others started shooting blanks, still have pain or are numb down there.
Hello, thanks for all this informations , please doctor I need help am 32 years old man I started using topical minoxidil 5 , for 6 months now twice a day the hair loss stopped and everything ok but I have excess of hair in my body and face my eyebrows thickens and i have hair in my front and i feel like my skin aging . what should I do please if you can make a video of those side effects
That is what minoxidil does, it makes your hair thicken. It will thicken your hair on your body as well as your head, but since it is topical , I would think it would mostly thicken your head hairs. As for making your skin age, I have never heard of such a side effect. I have taken topical minoxidil for almost 10 years and the most I noticed was maybe increased body hair.
Hello doc i've been on minoxidil fin tropical 5% for a year there is significant hair growth in temples too but hair fall has not completely stopped. Some of the hair falls when i put these medication and masssage it. Is it normal or m i loosing hairs again. And do minoxidil finastride shed occurs after a year or only in the early stage of medication
Anything that changes hormones will create side effects - for most people it would be very subtle. I used natural products to reverse over a decade of severe Norwood 7. Even some of the estrogenic herbs have side effects such as saw palmetto. Regardless, I now help men get their high school hair line back no matter the scale of loss on my channel.
Hey man... what did you used to reverse the side effects of finasteride ?
Just LET IT GO, ACCEPT THE BALDNESS AND EMBRACE IT -- SIMPLE
@@waqaskhan217 I did not use finasteride at all - I use saw palmetto. Ironically, they have the same sides for people except the depression piece, which gave me the clue it may work. I did not get that but I did get the sleepy member until my body came readjusted.
@@batmanbillions Nah, I did already for over 13 years. Now I am getting my hair back.
@@batmanbillionsWhy would anyone want to do that when there's finasteride, Rogaine, hair transplants, etc. I need to remind you that this is the 21st century! 😆
Hi Dr, do you still use Rigenera Activa in your practice? Have your thoughts on it changed since your last video about it??
PFS is not real but he doesnt want to say it and anger the clowns 😂
What makes you think it's not real? The fact that you don't want it to be real?
@incognitotorpedo42 lack of research verifying that it exists. Propecia put risk of persistent side effects on the label to avoid frivolous law suits. This basically kicked off the hysteria
@@incognitotorpedo42 its not real bro
real or fake - never mess with hormones..they are the real gangstas of our bodies...
PFS exist. I am suffering from persistent side effects for the past 4 months. Be careful and vigilant while taking any 5AR.
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In terms of side effects on fin. They typically occurs in people who already have low androgen profiles. So when these people reduce their DHT, their androgen to estrogen ratio is worsened and it pushes them over the edge into experiencing symptoms of low androgens. In people with PFS, their androgens never recovered after stopping fin leading to persisting symptoms
@@MegatronNEMO they would have to find a way to get back to the hormone profile that they had before ever taking finasteride. Probably by resorting to things such as TRT or taking DHT based therapies to boost their androgens
@@ab.808 what are the DHT based Therapies? And does that mean u would have to take them forever? Sorry you’re just one of the first people who has an explanation for all this
@@MegatronNEMO yea not getting baseline bloodwork before taking drugs that mess with your hormone profile would be a huge mistake cause now you wouldn’t know what exactly is causing ur PFS symptoms. Unfortunately most doctors are quite uneducated on these things, most don’t even know what PFS is when they prescribe you finasteride.
@@MegatronNEMO it would be drugs such as oxandrolone. And yes pretty much you’d have to inject yourself with these hormones for the rest of your life to maintain proper levels of testosterone and DHT to feel good. Best to go to a hormone clinic and have them check your blood work and closely monitor you while you start your hormone therapy
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Is cutting 5mg finastiride to quarter safe?
Yes. Many do that as way of saving money
Yep
it's not real
you literally have no idea.
It's real and devastating
I agree. No one has shown a mechanism of action as to why they have symptoms even when their hormones return to baseline (before starting Finasteride). People always neglect to consider that there are a percentage of the general population that gets ED or brain fog or depression. So they're going to turn to the thing they think of instead of addressing other alternatives like diet, other medications and personal life. So when they compare the incidence of "PFS" it aligns to the incidence of the general population, which is likely to happen.
@@bobbob4919 how do you explain genital numbness, ahedonia, muscle wastage etc? its just in peoples head?
@@PostFinasterideSyndromeNorway how do you explain it then? After you've stopped taking a 5ar inhibitor that clears out of your system in a few weeks, there is literally no mechanism of action that could cause this via Finasteride. It's up to you to prove that it's caused by Finasteride, so go on and tell me how exactly it's doing it.