Peugeot 307 2.0 HDI not starting BSI lost coding. Fault finding and repair.
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I have picked up this car as a non runner!
The car would crank, but would not start!
A quick scan, revealed that the BSI seemed to be blank!!!!
Follow me on this video, to find out how I got to that conclusion, and how to resolve this problem...
Watch this video, where I take the programing a bit more into detail...
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NOTE: You do not need the software to extract the PIN code...If you look carefully when I show you the data from the EEPROM, you can see the PIN in there... repeated twice... :-)
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One of the most best RUclipsr which learn share it's knowledge for FREE. Thanks and keep it up your videos are helping a lot of us! And a suggestion always keep sharing knowledge because not everyone share it because they're afraid if they will lost from it's competitors by learning things! Thanks again!
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That was quite a good example and teaching process, now I understand much better the system and how does it work :-) Thank you for explaining.
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Yet another great video.Merry Christmas and keep the good work up..
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You not only good at what you doing but good for sharing too.
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I working on the same car with the same problem right know.Thank you again and again Louis,as i said i couldn t be where i m righy now without your help.Keep it going
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That's brilliant!
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@@LMAutoRepairs Have you used a blank pcf7936 here ,right?
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@@LMAutoRepairs do you think i can use the original transponder of the car ?
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If all the parts still the original yes...
Another great video. This reminded me of when I added a new ECU to my Vauxhall Mervia. The steps were indeed very similar. Have learnt an awful lots from your videos. Thanks for posting them. Have a great Christmas and a very happy new year. :)
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Thanks!
Merry Christmas!
Great video my friend, you are very smart. Merry Christmas!!
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Merry Christmas!
Sterling job mate 👍 another happy customer 😁
Thanks Igor!
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Success is always with you ..... Great job🤘
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Great video. I have this exact same problem. Now I can understand what to do to resolve. Thank you.
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Thats great!
Hope you get it sorted!
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great video for people who are new to reading pin code etc and what software to use and where to get them a beginners guide would be helpful keep up the good work
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Thanks for the comment, and for watching!
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Great video, and great and informative comment section!
Greetings.
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Awesome job Luis big thumbs up 👍
Thanks Allan!
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loved your work, thank you
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Well done job as always! Have you ever repaired/rewriten Volvo CEM modules ? I know they also sometimes, could be damaged, from voltage drops, or other problems. Maybe you even have video on that ? I learned lots more from your video, than in college. Thank you, for your time to make videos.
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Very good . i enjoy every step.
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Useful video 👍
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yes very good video I enjoyed that, really interesting, well done.
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I was particularly interested in the start of this video. Just from looking at the 307 I also expected it to be a 307 VAN (not CAN). If you look at the time line at 7.33 it conforms that it is a 307 VAN. On this model the VAN diagnostic bus connects directly to the engine ECU. The BSI and ABS are connected to the engine ECU via a CAN bus but the diagnostic connector also has some other VAN bus connections to the ABS and BSI which the PSA Lexia 3 tool uses so even if the CAN bus is faulty the diagnostic tool can still see those devices.
I suspect the reason the MaxiScan tool couldn’t find the right engine ECU is because 307 CAN was chosen instead of 307 VAN. The interesting thing is as soon at the VIN was entered the MaxiScan tool knew the car was a 307 VAN.
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Nice video sir
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Thank you for the Well explained video… I have a 2002 - 307 with eco mode aktive … Have ordered pp2000 along with hardare and am looking forward to troubleshooting this…
Is the car starting and running?
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No not running. Last owner left lights on around Xmas 22. Battery died, eco mode after that... Someone has attempted a fix but no luck... See the coil rack has been off, ( new screw) and noticed the coil batterie was not properly connected as well .. the starter did turn the car over but it was working hard... Now starter won't turn over... Have a replacement starter I car try... I originally was interested in the car for parts for my daily but the parts car is (body wise) much better than mine... Any thoughts on the way forward (hopefully 😊) ?
Key is recognized as with driver door open and key in, the reminder beep is active..
Forget about the economy mode... that most likely is not the problem, and will go away once the car starts...
Have you scanned the car?
Low battery, etc, usually causes what I captured in this video...
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@@LMAutoRepairs Ok, understood… I have scanned with a middle Quality diagnose reader… Not PP2000, yet…. Battery is full, eco mode still activ… No windows, no radio, no life (power) to the heater unit… Read immobliser normal, bsi not locked… The starter doesn’t crank the engine over even though fully charged… Do some more trouble shooting tomorrow…
very useful video....keep it up...
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Great job !!
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Hi Luis. Greetings from Spain.Nice video. I want to add something. As you know ther are many ways of do this kinds of jobs, but some days ago I change the ECU in a peugeot and I also get the code from de old ECU but to match the "new" ECU, the pp2000 let change the pin in the 2nd hand ECU. So, you dont need to open the "new" ecu to write the same pin code.In the main menu of pp2000, select spare part, and follow the steps.Its just info for everyone who need it.
Thank you for sharing and for your comment!
@@LMAutoRepairs Hi again. I would like to know if Maxy of Autel could do this job by passthru protocol, I know that pp2000 is the best option, but just to know it. Thanks in advance
Its a question that i would like to know, because I'm thinking about buy an Autel scanner
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On Autel website it tells you which OEM softwares is certified as J2545... or passthrough...
I could wishing learning as you to this job
you are very knowledgeable, should do this as a full time job.
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Nice video and very much detailed, as always. At first, I wanted to say that you didn't have to unsolder the eeprom because you could read its contents using the KTAG, but then looking closely at the video, I noticed that your version of KTAG does not reed the eeprom. It shows: "eeprom not present".I don't know why.
You got it...
It might be my version...🤔
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
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Cause he’s got a cheap Chinese clone version ...
Hi, with pp2000 i cant enter new pin in a similar bsi (virgin), i get the same massage as you at first , i did all the steps as in your video, any ideas ??? Thank you
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sir, you are a great teacher indeed. i love you so much, how i wish i get in contact to work with you great mentor.
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very good once again and another happy costumer 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍!
could that programming not be done on the maxisys?
I think it could... Next time need to have a go at it...
Thank you for watching!
I have a question, the diag reads vin, but does not allow key programming when entering the code it says no communication. How can I send the bsi to you, can you give email please.
Hi how can i get i contact with you i need files for that ecu have one im working on with missing eeprom
I think when you said we have all learned something today, I was thinking you should be using diagbox with a lexia cable...your autel is a good tool but I think it runs you round in circles...just a thought, I do like you videos...keep up the hard work, it’s very much appreciated👍
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Not really... I mean, there is some videos coming that will might make you change your mind in relation to the MaxiSys...
The thing is, because I have this other tools that I know they will do the job first time, I sometimes become too lazy to try the MaxiSys, and just use the tools I know will do the job...
Nevertheless, I appreciate that you watch my videos!
Really appreciated!
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
LM Auto Repairs I do all diagnostic gear myself...I also repair equipment too....
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Most of his gear is China clone ...
And they work just fine!
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@@jonnybgud0310 I need your help on 307 ecu
Its magic by a magician, cars are so complex these days
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yes you done very good there with that one. have seen horrendous electrical faults in these french cars. i have always had honda and toyota. because of their good solid reliable vehicles .
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At home we have French cars, and they have not given electrical problems ... My 2002 Xsara with BSI, COM2000, has 136,000 miles, nothing electrical has ever been damaged, the ECU is the original, the injectors are original, and my ECU is a Siemens SID801 just like the 307, and I also saw an Xsara with the same injection engine, with 372,000 miles.
Toyota is also not spared from breakdowns, because its 2.2 engines, for example the cylinder liners move and allow the antifreeze to enter, the Denso injectors tend to destroy the pistons, the electrical contactors of the rav4 windows that can cause fires, the famous failure of the pedalgate, the takata airbags that shoot shrapnel.
www.caranddriver.com/news/a30997060/2020-toyota-recall-camry-avalon-rav4-engine-cracks/
I'm not saying that toyota makes bad cars, but they're not perfect ...
At home we also have a Mitsubishi Outlander, had its manufacturing defects, the original wiper motor could cause a fire, the bluetooth has never worked well.
People greatly overvalue the Japanese as well as the German vehicles as the most reliable, when it is not. Yes, they can make good cars, but the reality is that all manufacturers have their good models. But like all cars, models that are not perfect may come out, and it may suffer the same breakdowns as a French vehicle.
And the electronic components that the French usually use are the same as those of a Japanese, it can contain Japanese capacitors, chips manufactured by United State companies, etc...
Very helpful
Thanks!
Great job as usual
If you had another bsi with the same configuration, would it be possible to swap the eeprom over to the new/secondhand bsi?
No... because of the immobilizer...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Nice video mate. How did you know which of the 2 small chips is the eeprom?
It is written on the chip... the chip type...😉
Thank you for watching!
I have 307 1.6 turbo diesel .i need wiring diagram can you send it to me please.
Hi, great video. Learnt so much from it. I'm a noob at this still learning .. and I was wondering is there's a way to virginize a EEPROM BSI dump from a 308 from 2007 ? Thanks and keep up the good work. Greetings from Malaysia. ...
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Should be possible... start by trying all FF and go from there... not always this works... but worth try...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
@@LMAutoRepairs I'll give it a try. Thanks. 😁
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Hi mate. I need help ASAP with my Peugeot 407 2.0 HDi, please?
Is the Peugeot planet software expensive
Good job did you do an opel corsa d with the same issue bsi lost its coding im using opcom but cant seem to get it right... Please advise if you can.... Thank you
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Never on a corsa D... did corsa C though...
But...
ruclips.net/video/5Jl_poF35_A/видео.html
Myself or a fellow member will be happy to help!
Thank you for watching!
this the best video about coding , from first to end , good good good
we have learned a lot
but I have question about immobilizer program, according my information the immo program may be stored in a several places on car , If i took the program from one of these places, and do immo off, Does it stop immobilizer?
thanks in advance
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It depends on the car you are talking about!
In this car, the immo is on BSI and ECU...
But there is cars way more complicated....
So, each case , is a case... and some cars, you just can't immo off...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
@@LMAutoRepairs thankss for respond
i have a little question about term virginize/ reset , Does the term virginize/ reset meaning immo off or what to mean ? , because when i watched about this , I see you did this by program IMMO Universal Decoding , and this program to immo off
Is it possible to explain in some detail about meaning virginize/ reset
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There is not a lot to say about Virginize/reset...
A BSI, once programmed to a vehicle, can not be programmed to another car.
The virginize process, is basically blank the ecu to a brand new state, so you can program it again to a different car...
ruclips.net/video/nXoUz-ejRtI/видео.html
IMMO off is a different matter... and is usually done on the engine ecu, which by the way, also needs to be virginized in order to be programmed to a different car...
But different makers different procedures...
Hope that helps.
Como sempre e mais uma ves mais um trabalhilho realizado com sucesso grande abraço amigo ca de portugal
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Um abraço para aí também!
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good teaching i all way s like your video but i have peugeot 307 ecu petron engine i tru to vagine it with my xg ecu with ecu vonix i did the repair on it i put it back to car with out programing and car start meaning the ecu did not vagin pls help me out tnanks pls feed me back
Thank you for the video, just have some questions to help me understand:
1. If you have a faulty ECU you need to take the code from the BSI and if you have the faulty BSI you need to take the code from the ECU?
2. If someone changed BSI, ECU, Keys and Remotes as a set the dealer option is no longer available as the parts come from another vehicle?
3. What happens with the transponder and the remotes when you use the BSI from another vehicle and virginise it. I mean can you reuse the old transponder and old remotes and program them to the virginised BSI from another vehicle?
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1. Correct.
2. Correct.
3. No... you will need new transponder and remote.
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
@@LMAutoRepairs Thank you for your replies, If you need new transponders and new remotes all together with new BSI (old virginised BSI) would it be possible to take transponders and remotes from the same car we're taking the BSI from or they have to be brand new? (New BSI won't accept old keys but new virginised BSI should be happy with programming the old pair taken from the same car? Unless they become completely useless after the BSI is virginised and they cannot be used any more?) I hope you understand my thought process. I really appreciate the knowledge you're sharing with everyone.
Excellent work👍 . I have a question when the Peugeot's speedometer changes to another. Will it affect the car, because my car meter is broken and needs to be completely changed. Thanks (car model Peugeot 308/2008)✋🏻
bsi to 0 km dash new kilom....
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So, if you are going to replace the cluster, with a second hand one, you have two options...
1. Get a cluster with less miles than your car has... and once you plug it in, the miles from then BSI will be written into the cluster...
2. If you get a cluster with more miles, either reset it to 0 or put the correct miles from your car...
DON'T PLUG IT IN... as the car will adjust the mileage from the highest one... so in that case, the BSI will adjust to the cluster...
Hope that makes sense...
Thank you for watching!
Hi Luis,
I have just wondered how did you know that the BSI itself is not faulty and can reprogram again? Because... idk... why it lost all the information and communication with the ECU?
Well, I didn't... however, you need to try...
This is also a common issue with these, so when I have seen that the BSI was blank... voilá...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
what a great video-thanks
Appreciated!
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First lol. Very informative as ever.
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Brilliant
Thank you!
Thanks to LM for his excellent videos. I am using a Planet 2000 that comes with a recent Diagbox and I had to do things differently to get the BSI working. I tried to configuring the BSI through the "ecu configuration and Services". I configured the VIN all the ECUs present on the 307 but couldn't get past entering the PIN code to do the key programming. Planet said the BSI was blank and should be programmed. After some searching I followed a suggestion on another site to select "replacement Parts" rather than "ecu configuration and Services" and choose the option to configure a replacement BSI. It remembered the VIN I had previously entered and I had to overtype a few of the characters so it could be saved and it then asked for the PIN which it also saved away. After that, the BSI it was unblanked and it all worked like clockwork.
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Always great info but just a question where can I get DS708 repaired screen does not respond
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I don't know...
Does it looks like the touch, or the whole scanner is not responding?
It might be a faulty tough screen... easy replaceable...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Just the screen it would respond after a few trys and a couple minutes. Could you recommend a supplier because I bought a screen off ebay but it was a couple versions diffence so it did not work . Autel USA would not fix it because the warranty was up and they don't stock parts. It is a good scanner and I don't want to junk it just for a simple part
Check with them first... make sure they ship the right one...
www.cardiagtool.co.uk/original-autel-maxidas-ds708-screen.html
Hi,
I'm planning to perform a ECM swap, my car is peugeot 308 2008 1.6Hdi 90hp, ECM EDC16C34. I found the same full part number on a donor car, my question for you is: will the car start with the "new" ECM if I do a EEPROM swap(part no 95160) from my ECM to the donor ECM? What about BSI coding? I read on some forum that It doesn't work without a BDM cloning, is this right? Unfortunately I don't have a BDM100, but I do have a Lexia3 .
Thanks in Advance!
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I am pretty sure that if you move the eeprom from your ecm to the donnor, they alone should do the trick...
I don't think there is any immo setting in the flash on the edc16...
All the settings will be in the eeprom, no BSI coding will be needed....
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
@@LMAutoRepairs Thank you very much for your support! And great work BTW!
My faulty ECM has a short to VBAT on the analog input of the microcontroller, the input wire for the rail pressure sensor signal measures 5v, hence the P0193 DTC, and car not starts. This was caused by plugging in the wrong connectors(ECM frp connector was connected to the water in diesel sensor, and ECM water in diesel to the frp sensor).
I'm trying to connect to my ecm with Lexia3(Diagbox and PP2000) on the bench via the OBD2 port(wires attached from ECM connector to an OBD connector) but didn't succeeded?
I connected : 12V, GND, IGNITION(12V), K-LINE, CAN-H, CAN-L
Do you know if this is possible?
Regards,
Paul
O teu video ajudou-me imenso. OBRIGADO!!!!!!!!!
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Hi!! Very very good video!!
This is nesesary in a new Bsi??
Thanks from chile!
A new BSI will have to be programmed... if you don't have the pin of the car, you need to get it somehow... this can be the way...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
@@LMAutoRepairs thanks!
Yes. I dont have the pin code. I will try read from old bsi or ecu.
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nice work . i use avdi to read pin code from ecu . port obd 2 . 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
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I have AVDI now... but did not have it at this point... so was my only option...
Thank you for watching!
Hello Mohamed. Do you know if avdi can read code from other cars? Opel PSG 16 for example...
yes . can read pincode psg 16 . 2.0 and 2.2 dti .
hi,could you please tell me if the 2002 307 2.0 hdi has a reset button after crash or it has bsi,if yes please tell me where it is located,thanks
The inertia switch... is the only thing that comes to my head...
But don't think that has one...
Some modules do have a reset option to restore power after a crash... but you need to connect a capable scan tool and check that out...
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@@LMAutoRepairs yes,IT was about inertia switch but IT didn t come to my mind,thanks.
good master i like your teaching pls tell me the name of your programmer
Here I used X-prog...
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where do you get the heat gun from
Links in the description...
Not sure if they still active though...🤔
I can read code of the buffer so could you tell me the sofwer name for find pin code? Thanks
There is a few different ones out there...
Just Google it....
Thank you for watching!
I am looking at buying a pp2000 clone set up but never read that it won't work with the 307 hdi RHR powered car due to the fap system. Is this true? I have the autel maxidiag but can't do much with that.
I never had an issue, but to be honest, I might never came across that engine... lol
Still, it is worth the investment, even if poorly on that one car!
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
You need full lexia for than 2009 model once
@@Hamza.234 I have the 2006 oxygo model.. I just heard something that the pp2000 isn't compatible because of the emissions system.. information online is very thin on the ground. Although I suspect I could buy it anyway.. I have 2 307s and am looking at getting a later one like a 508. Nice cars
What type autel are you use?
MS908P
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Hi. I have the same issue with Citroen c3 hid.2003 model. Car swings but does not start.checked all fuses and earth contact's it's fine.The remotes Dnt work As well the electric windows and radio,fan.. so I gather the bsi has loss data.can this be resolved any other way.
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Have you scanned the car?
That is the best way to make sure you are making the right call by diagnosing a bad BSI....
Thank you for watching!
@@LMAutoRepairs Hi.Yes .I got a guy to do a scan.but it he could not get access because he couldn't to log into becos the ecu nbr doesn't show up to it's shows a different ecu number.
is it a must to take that ic out to find the pin, no other means..?
There is some "tools"...
Google will help you...
Thank you for watching!
Nice
Thanks!
Same hadware recomended for read this chip?
Yes... X-prog will do the job just fine...
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Hi, I have a question, it is a little long winded so please bear with me 🙂 Ok, I have a 2007 Peugeot 307 1.6 hdi 110 BHP estate, when I attempt to start it it will crank over but will not start but when I try again it will start. Sometimes the lights and windscreen wipers will also come on. The key cannot be used for the central locking and the radio cannot be used without the engine running and it has returned to its default French language and the time and date are reset, if I set the time and date the next time I start the car the time and date are reset again. Does this sound like a fault with the BSI, ECU or the fuse box.? Sorry the question was so long but no one has been able to pinpoint this problem and i have had the problem about 4 months now. 🙁 Many thanks for reading this. 👍
Don't think the ecu is your problem... based on what you are saying...
BSI, probably...
Have you scanned the car?
Looked at live data etc...?
Thank you for watching!
Do you mean scanned for codes? Yes I have, there are only 4 codes, 2 for ECG and two are P1350 and P1351. There is also a antipollution warning there. I haven't looked at any live data as I don't have the equipment to do this, thank you for your reply. 👍
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Some of that I believe is glow plugs related...
@@LMAutoRepairs yes someone from Peugeot Forums said that but didn't believe that was were the problem is coming from. 🤔
Not for the failure to start... that might be something else...
But you never know... it is a peugeot after all...
Lol
the boss
Lol
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where can i get the program to calculate the pin code
Google....
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
I have a Peugeot partner Combi 20 hdi 2004 and been told that the ECU as failed changed the crankshaft position sensor and ok for one day now won't start again there is a ECU on eBay and they are same but one number it's off the same vehicle can I just change the ECU or any thing to start it again please help thanks
You can change the ecu, but you will need to clone yours.. I mean, you need to transfer the data from yours to the replacement one... otherwise will not start due to the not matching immobiliser...
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How much does it cost to clone one so i can buy any Siemens off Peugeot and have it cloned
Depends who does it...
Don't buy any Siemens.... buy an ecu tha comes from a car with the same engine as yours... and match the part numbers... if you can't match the parts numbers, ensure the the ecu still compatible with your car...
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Why is the pin backwards when you read the eprom?
Swapped bytes...
Something like this...
www.quora.com/What-is-byte-swapping
Thank you for watching Steve!
Citroen relay BSI can't communicate with ABS does not read speeds and no ABS , read with Foxwell NT 530 configuration not suited to vehicle , fault in alignment between ECU's ? . Taken as last resort to Citroen dealer , didn't fix it after numerous try's but sent download to Citroen Tech " Citroen tech reply , replace ABS pump/module ! does this sound correct ? I thought BSI fault , what's your thoughts
By the way I can read ABS wheel speeds on Foxwell and it report's no fault on ABS module I'm willing to pay for fix but not waste any more on a no fix
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Difficult to say without checking diagrams etc...
@@LMAutoRepairs Hi thanks for reply Its been on the dealer diagnostics , technician at dealer's was also thinking its the BSI but the BSI is a program once device so can't return to stock , but now Citroen tech support are saying ABS pump ! , Were you based ? I was after someone like you to look at it I'm based near Grimsby north end Lincolnshire any help would really be appreciated even if you know someone in my area . All the garages have been to are well out their depth with these sort of faults also we don't have pin code , would it be needed to code in replacement ABS pump/module
You are a bit far from me... plus this is a hobby for me...
If the dealer is changing their minds regards what is at fault, then I would walk way from them... they should know better...
If the BSI is complaining with no comms with the ABS, but you can talk to it through the OBD, I would start with the basics, check wiring, scope can lines etc...
Again, without checking diagrams it is a bit tricky to advise any further, but that would be my approach, based on your description of the problem... before blame any modules...
@@LMAutoRepairs Hi thanks for information
great job
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I like that section we try to Steal the car lol hhhhhhhhhh that's good one
If there was a chip reader that attached to the pins without extracting the chip - it just mated to the pins in situ from above... that would save a lot of ball-ache in this process. I doubt that is beyond the bounds of human ingenuity.
There is... it is called a SOIC clip...
But some boards/pcb have circuits to prevent the chips from being read in situ...
The removal of a 8 pin chip is extremely easy, only adds a couple minutes to the whole process...
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@@LMAutoRepairs I was kinda hinting at the SOIC... :-) I just didn't fancy giving them free publicity.. Bad sarcasm - the lowest form of humour - my bad/..
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Hi Louis, Great work.
Just wondering why you would not take the easier option of getting the code from the dealer as mentioned and charging the customer. Seems like a complicated way to extract a pin code considering you have to take the BSI out, extract the chip, hook it up to a PC with appropriate software and then reconnect it all.
Also, the code in the eeprom data seems reversed or back to front when compared to the final code you see using the software program. Is there a reason for this ?
What is the difference between 307 VAN 307 CAN ? Does this refer to the communication network ?
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I like to go through this procedures... you learn a lot... the easy way, anyone can do it!😉
The pin was showing inversed... due to swapped bites... just Google it...
VAN =Veichle Area Network
CAN =Control Area Network
Different communication protocols...
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So no need reflash bsi dump like you did other bsi video?
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No...
Just recode... the flash was good... only the eprom info that was lost.
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@@LMAutoRepairs how you know eep or flash was gone?:)
I not see economy mode message on dash. What indicating which one is gone
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Economy mode is not an indicator of anything like that...
Only that the battery is getting low, and that the BSI disables systems that are not necessary in order to save the battery to start the engine.
I know that the flash was good, because I do not have to reflash it... so was good.
All the immo data etc is stored in the eeprom...
Hope that makes sense...
Thank you! How come that you could use old key when immo where lost in eeprom?
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How do you know this chip was an eeprom one (17:11)
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Due to being a 8 pin ic, and due to what was written on it...
Experience also helps...
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you left out the N in the first part of your name.
hi mate i need help with my citroen bsi can you help?
I can give you my opinion...
What is the issue?
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@@LMAutoRepairs hi mate yeah my front indicator is stuck on .stays on even with key off. citroen c4 2013. i took my bsi out but dont see anything obvious like burns.
I would have to check diagrams to see exactly how that works... unless you have already done that...
Before all of that, removing the BSI etc... have you scanned the car, and checked live data etc?
@@LMAutoRepairs yeah i have plug in diagbox lexia and deleted all codes and one code kept coming back saying short-circuit on left indicator...traced it to my bsi..funny is out of left side its just one indicator that stays on even with key off other two flashing fast.i ve checked wiring loom and thats ok.took bsi out opened it but have not seen obvious burns.
If the BSI reports a short, and you are 100% sure that there is not a short anywhere between the bulbs and the unit, follow the circuit inside the BSI...
There is not much more I can help you with...
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My ds3 1.6 hdi doesnt start at all. How to find the problem?
There is not Even dash light
Try to scan the car, and go from there...
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For what it's worth. If nothing electric work on a car. Look for the culprit starting from the battery condition/terminals and basic connections. Go from there as a start point. Never neglect the always forgotten earth connections!
This is way out of my lvl. - Have citreon picasso that laid up. Battery needed charge from drainage. Now only noises and clicks from fuse box, dash lights go on and off. Tried bsi reset from RUclips video and nothing change. Needs glowplugs change. I am completely stuck on what to do ?????
I could actually help you...
But after reading the two comments you left and then deleted, (yes, I can still read them..), I am not going to bother...
Have a nice day...
@@LMAutoRepairs well all I can say is Apologies! Entirely my fault due to frustration with my situation and fact that I couldn't follow what you were doing..as stated my levels are 'entry' I could never risk trying what you did. Either way I had deleted my incorrect comments ASAP. As I realised it was me and not you anymore than that I couldn't change.
Fair enough...
We all get frustrated sometimes... but discharging our frustration one someone we don't even know, is not nice...
Apologies accepted...
First double check that the battery is fully changed... what you are describing still like low battery/voltage...
Check all the fuses you haven't already... and check the ground points you can see... specially the ones on the engine bay...
I would say to try to scan the car...
But check those things first, as is more likely to be something along those lines...
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How did the bsi lose everything?
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It can happen... loose or become corrupted...
It can happen to any car really, but Peugeot and Citroen are quite prone to it..
Mainly due to jump starts (voltage spikes), or low voltages (battery discharge)...
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I've seen loads of these. The Ford PATS system is also troublesome
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Just done a Volvo... video soon...
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I think this happend to my 206 after the battery was drained and try to start the car , the car went all caduzy and after that i got problems like no power to the fuel pump or the starter wont work then is all ok and then again no power to the fuel pump... i just think it is this.
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Possibly... scan the BSI and go from there...
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I like Peugeot/Citroen as in general, they're an excellent ROI (return of investment). Practical, cheap to buy, run and maintain, etc.
BUT truth be told the PIN system while increasing the potential safety of the car. In reality, for older cars. Which no one will steal anyway! Its nothing but a royal pain in the rear end!
Thieves are well equipped and quickly bypass the safety PIN. If they have some trouble, well it's not our problem is it?! ;-)
On the other hand the private individual/legitimate owner usually is not so well equipped and takes the punch of all the added complication.
Because we all know that 99.9999% of previous owners, don't have a damn clue where they left the scratch card, with the PIN registration! Grrr!
As an exception, among my Peugeots and Citroens, the small Peugeot 107. Which in reality as we all know is a Toyota! Doesn't have nothing of that. You connect PP2000, set the keys or whatever, as you please and call it a day. ;-)
Well that's life, and that's it for a short rant. LOL 😂
Be well guys
Luis awesome job as always. ;-)
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And PSA does not even uses a too complicated system... there is way worse/complicated out there... lol
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why read the flash? and EEPROM has key code
You never know when you are going to need the original maps for another ecu...
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Hi I am keeping from Turkey. Please can you send say hello for us?
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Really appreciated!
First letter in code is J 🧐GN7.
Why would PUG need to make such sophisticated immo/alarm? leave the keys in the car and still no one is going to want to steal it!
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Which softwares are you using
Where are you based , I'm sure my cars bsi is corrupted. Same car just 2 year newer . Only just got the car for the wife as all the bad luck we both had . And now this . Battery light is flashing as well as interior light
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I only do this as a hobby...
Start by checking fuses, grounds etc... Who knows...
Hope you find someone to have a look at it...
The procedure in the BSI is corrupt, is on the video...
Good luck...
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@@LMAutoRepairs nothing seems to be out on the car ie lights and equipment. Earths i might try getting some sand paper and give the connections a clean . Would you say this may be the cause
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@@LMAutoRepairs ok ill let you know
@@antonymellor1490 - If you have access to a Dremel type rotating tool. Get some wire brush for it. Makes the job so so much faster an easier!
I've done "contacts cleaning" on older cars in a couple of hours. And I mean an entire car, fuses included!
With sand paper or a hand held wire brush it would mean several hours added on top.
PLEASE WEAR PPE GLASSES! ;-)
I get the small wire wheels, in packs of 10x, online usually Ebay, Amazon and the likes.
Encounter this when the BSI is replace another BSI in another car even if the same model
Not exactly the same... that's a different issue...
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looks like the pin is in the dump written backwards
Indeed it is...
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I was like" did i just see..." oooo hell i did lol tnx for comformation
Help me
Hi
ruclips.net/video/5Jl_poF35_A/видео.html
Myself or a fellow member, will be more than happy to help!
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26:40 i have the same message ! , anyone can help ?
Yes...
There a sequence that needs to be followed... otherwise fails...
I can't recall from the top of my head now...
But, as you follow the screens, you figure it out...
Something to do with activation first, or something like that...
Haven't done one for ages...😋
Hope you get it sorted...
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@@LMAutoRepairs thank you very much
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I have same problem did you figure it out how to do? @khaleddz4570
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Holy sheet What kind of a sadist puts a computer in a car? I have same car same problem, All started with a flat battery.
Yes... usually is what causes it...
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Can you come to me and help me out? Wtf if your BSI is defect, they charge you hundreds of euro’s at a garage and otherwise you have to get rid of the car and just get € 100,- for it. CRAP
Mustn’t be that difficult to just fix it for less money, isn’t it?
I don’t want to throw the car away for € 100,- while this can be fixed, but they charge to much!!!
Search my videos for the BSI...
They can be virginized and reprogrammed to the car...
But you need some tools for that...
Nevertheless, in this case was also the BSI...
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LM Auto Repairs Thank you too for reply and this good useful vid! ❤️
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No worries...
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