BMW 118d not starting. No DDE communication. Fault finding and repair.
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This car was brought to me as a non runner...
On a first scan, I noticed that I could not communicate with the DDE (Engine ECU)...
Follow me on this video to find out why was that, and how I fixed it!
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Flux used: NC-559-ASM-UV
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To clean: Isopropyl Alcohol
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Fiber Glass Cleaning Pen:
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Soldering Iron: Temperature controlled soldering station.
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Hot Air Gun Station:
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Desoldering Vaccum Station:
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Remote Tester:
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Uni-T clamp meter:
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EEPROM Adaptor:
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X-PROG:
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Like always, thank you for watching! 
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This is why I always prefer my favourite independant 'shed' mechanic instead of some commercial garages. 10 minutes to figure out what a full crew garage couldn't do in days. Great job, love these videos.
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@@LMAutoRepairs I have problems with. my e70 computer that does not fit two pistons can be repaired
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What do you, with does not fit two pistons?
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As a retired pcb designer and fault tracer I am impressed. I didn't think there were any younger people coming through with there skills anymore. A I said.... impressive !!
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Thanks, it is just a shame that right to repair is not something that industries embrace... making schematics etc more easily available...
Would make things way easier...
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Wow, nice work. I have my BMW745 with the same problem!' No communication and after a week in the shop, he gave up and couldn't find why he couldn't communicate with the car. My car starts ,but the airbag, horn, windshield wiper all disabled. I wish you were around here. Thanks for the great video.
Great work by lm autos as always . Bring ecus back to life. Had a few jobs done by him. Always come back perfect !
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Thanks Nuffz, for watching and for your comment!
@@LMAutoRepairs I’ve got a e90 325i that I believe has the same issue at first we thought it was the voltage regulator so I had a new alternator put in but the it won’t start. Cranked so I also got a new battery but it’s just won’t start. Scanned with snap on and was getting engine ecu fault code so it now stranded at the garage and I don’t want to keep paying for parts that isn’t fixing the problem.
Where abouts are you based and how can I get in touch for the job if not can you help identify my options or recommend garage of ecu/ electronics specialist that will take on job or a solution
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You can get the ecu out and inspect without much effort, and you will be able to quickly establish if it has been on water...
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Your patience at repairing stuff that would normally just get replaced is impressive.
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Another drain hole blocked....ecu not water-tight...you did a great job with the pcb, cleaning and repairing it.
I think Ronnie O'Sullivan said the same as you. Luis...He won the match early so he could pick the kids up from school! lol.
Very well done!
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Incredible how you are able to bring those ECU back from the dead 😁, just before I started watching this video I looked into a Corsa Crank no start where the pump in the tank runs for too long I hope it’s not the same issue 😬... cheers Luis 👍
Corsa D diesel.... well... you might be lucky... but they are known for flooded ECUs... lol
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AGAIN...Another Great job Louis, the patients you have to resolve a problem and to save this board is inspirational, keep up your great work, top engineer mate...
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Hi Mate, I salute you for your great initiative and patience applied in resolving this issue. You are a STAR. You just diagnosed and explained a replica of my BMW 1 series 118d coupe manual diesel - Crank no Start! This happened over two weeks ago, and yesterday, I had to open the ECU unit and discovered a water log at the bottom, and eventually water had gone into the panel thereby causing it to stop communication. I ordered another ECU from eBay yesterday and it will arrive tomorrow. Though it has to be cloned. But If I'd seen this video before now, I would have taken the chance to do the same. Maybe mine could just possibly need to be cleaned with spirit and allowed to dry. You are just a genius! RESPECT👍
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Yes, an used ecu will need programming...
It might still worth a try on yours... 😉
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Hi great Tech-Man, thanks for your response. Well appreciated. Just like you ascribed, yes, it might have worked out if I'd watched your video and applied the techniques you used in your video...smiles. I really appreciate your expertise vibe. I will be following you on here constantly. You are a great Tech-Man👍
Well subscribed...🙂👍@@LMAutoRepairs
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This is what called hard work. I like your method of diagnosing and repair. I work just same like you but in middle east. I wish for you good luck.
Thanks, and good luck for you to!
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Nice fix asusaul, thanks for the patience and effort you put into making you videos.
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It just boils my blood when i hear of garages ripping people off like that....2 weeks and no fix and a bill, ....name and shame thats what i say ........ GREAT job on the fix.....and it only took you 10 or so min to find it .....very impressive ....thanks for sharing ...
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Very true. The last time I got ripped off by a garage (broken bolts on a wheel alignment) I wrote them a semi legal letter and negotiated a semi refund.
Yet another display of your diagnostic and repair genius, Luis..!
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Thanks Jeff!
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Your knowledge and ability to repair the DDE is very impressive. Thanks for sharing
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Thanks, for watching and for your comment!
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Thank you for the video. Solved the issue which main dealer couldn’t do. Customer spent loaaaaads of money before and issue was still there. Contacted me and solved by replacing the DDE. Thumbs up and subscribed 👍
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That's great!
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Amazing repair and was great to watch, when you removed the DDE board I would have never imagined something like could be repaired. It's a shame the chap had to spend so much before it got to you though. I'm going to check my car soon to make sure my drain plugs are okay Haha.
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I would check it... 😉
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You know that u are number 1 right? Thanks again for sharing your incredible work with us. From everything that I've seen from you until now my favourite is that mini cooper that came from another garage specialist for bmw and mini. This perhaps is from the same garage. Anyway Thanks for this 30 non blinking minutes 😁😁😁
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Excellent video! I enjoyed this one very much! Not many people will go through what you did to fix a module. Thanks for sharing bud
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usually would have swapped the board out
I have exactly the same fault with a 2008 320d I’ve just bought, non runner. Pump running constantly, all sorts of error messages on the dash, crank but no start. No DME communication, was going to look at the ecu connection first but you’ve confirmed what I was thinking. Thank you.
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Still, due your due diligence... just to make sure...
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@@LMAutoRepairs well, ecu tray completely dry! No corrosion anywhere but I’m going to open the ecu and have a look just in case
THIS WAS THE MOST IMPRESSIVE THING i HAVE SEEN IN A LONG TIME! Thank you for sharing this.
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My e46 brings back to life because of this video thank you, crank no start problem solved 🙏🏻
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Hi sir, Great jobs. I am following all your troubleshooting videos and was amazed about the great technically you handle the problems.
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Hi Luis your videos are very informative and good enough I am requesting you to make the video on how to check the ecu board continuity and trace out the track paths and how to check the processor and eeprom etc about their condition and what are the issues caused by the each one when they are defective
You are a very talented man Luis,great job great video
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Great job. I have repaired them same as you. Going having a go at a 2009 skoda octivaia tomorrow. Not many repair things like us these days.
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Fantastic, on a different level !
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Love your videos bro . Very informative. I do this work many times and it's nice to see more like this
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Nice CLS by the way....LOL
@@LMAutoRepairs haha the go-kart? Yea it's a fun toy
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Great job Luis! I'm surprised they couldn't find the cause however I'm not surprised they couldn't fix it lol you'd need a very steady hand for that soldering! 👍☺️
Yes, they would need... 😊
Thank you for watching Niamh, and for your comment!
Excellent video yet again , thanks for sharing the detailed approach .
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You are a car Guru Luis awesome great job mate!
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Hey loved the video, was just doing my research and stumbled upon this. Appears to be the exact same issue as a E90 330d I have. Pump staying on, not starting, red cog of death and flooded ECU. However I couldn't bring my ECU back, getting it cloned, hopefully sorts the issue
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Impressive knowledge on DDE
Thanks for your time and sharing
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I had a similar issue on my E46 330xd with the DDE 4.0 (M57 Engine). Water got inside the ECU, i think maybe condensation causes this. No communication with DDE was possible, also the water temperature gauge was at maximum when ignition was turned to on position. It was communicating again after cleaning and treating with hot air, but failed shortly after again. So the easiest solution was to get a working used unit re-programmed. This will cost around 170-250€ in Germany. Greetings from Bavaria and thanks for this helpful video!
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40 Balloons disliked this video. I could sit and watch this content all day. Great work again fella👍
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Thanks, I learn so much from you, best repair video's on here
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Awesome diagnosis and repair!Thanks for the video! God bless.
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Where you located I think I have the same issue with my 1 series but I don’t have any dashboard lights at all seems like a electronic fault also my fuses seemed to be a big moist when I took a fuse out to check . Please could you let me know as I need this issue resolved as soon as possible
Great detective work, and repair.
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Fantastic job!!! as you do always !!!
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Impressive, i find this so interesting and educational. Greetings from Norway :)
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What a very smart guy !!!
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Any ideas where the AC compressor relay is located? E87
Your a star from above landed on our Earth to guide us!
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I just like to help...
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This is an amazing video and excellent repair. I'll bet your day job is a brain surgeon this is just fun for you.Thanks for sharing.
Good theory... lol
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Fantástico video...adorei. continua o excelente trabalho!
Obrigado!
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A very, very good job from you. Perfect . All good for you.
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Thank you for the best diagnosis video, best of.
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Well done ! ! ! Watched with pleasure.
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well done,yet another great video!! thankyou
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Great video and great fix. Thanks.
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Ahhh very interesting, I have exact faults, I had same original fault ‘locked steering’ and I have run same diagnostic with resetting and sync of modules but still no dde communication.
I’m going to remove the ecu tomorrow and check for water. Let’s see!!
I have a 320d E91 07.
Amazing video and very informative, you certainly know your stuff.
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Hope you find the issue with yours...
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@@LMAutoRepairs yes it was water
Damage to the ecu. Exactly the same as your video!! I’m on the hunt for a used ecu. Now! One of the chips along the bottom has blown in half!!
@@LMAutoRepairs I feel like I need to repay you for your videos! It really helped.
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Glad you found the problem!
What a beast you sir !! Lovely video thanks for sharing 😀
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I have the same errors. I've been suffering for half a year now. The car won't start. I checked all the wires, all the contacts and they are perfect. 😒
Awesome job Luis big thumbs up 👍
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Esses BMs já não é o 1º que apanhas com a ECU mergulhada em água. Deve ser problema crítico dessa carroçaria de BM. Os escoadores entopem e a água não escoa. Ainda por cima aí na Inglaterra chove mais do que faz sol por isso é complicado. Essas boards ainda por cima são multilayer e as camadas do meio se um gajo não tiver esquema está praticamente tramado da vida. Gostei muito da tua solução que na verdade é a única mantendo a ECU original do carro. Caso contrário só uma ECU nova e depois é aquela seca de programar VINs e funções específicas do modelo do carro e do carro em particular. Enfim. Uma carga de trabalhos. Fica bem e continuação de bom trabalho. Abraço dos Olivais em Lisboa.
Sim... é um problema comum... não só nos BMs para ser sincero... tenho agora aqui em S Class (W221) que apesar de não ter danificado nada, andava com um aquário de cada lado... 😅
E sim, as multilayer são do diabo... 😳
Obrigado pelo comentário!
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Man love your work
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It was good diagnosis and repair but you forgot show us IC epram
And everyday I'm waiting for your new video I really like your diagnosis thanks for your good info
Well, in the end the chip was not an eeprom, neither work was necessary on it...
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Thank you for the video absolutely amazing work and as Denzel Washington said hard work works
Please do some videos about the security system in BMW. I heard something about resetting the working hours when changing a module in this car, and transferring the ISN " I don't even know what is this" and how to change the VIN in this cars maybe with a cheap way I have seen that you did this with maxisys.
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I have more to come, and have a actually no runner on the driveway...lol
ISN is like a long security pin, used between the CAS and DME/DDE...
There is dedicated tools, however expensive, to especially work on those systems...
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loving your video's, you have a gift, I will endeavour to learn from you
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Another brilliant video from you luis, always very interesting, just wanted to ask how to correctly remove the black plug connectors from the ecu as I tried to remove one the other day and couldn’t figure it out so I stopped as I don’t want to break anything.
Thanks, Chris.
I use a desoldering vacuum gun to remove the solder from the pins...
Then the hot air if needed... takes time, be patient...
Wow very nice job!
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Very helpful video. I like it
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Very good work sir ...
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Which elemetn is responsible for communications in d60m47 ?? 7803373
I have a similar problem. Can you fix this for me?
The greatest inventions be it groundbreaking innovations or something vogue to propel humanity further along has alway's been from those few individuals working from a Garden shed,with a vision and a desire to be constantly intrigued with problem solving, well done man, i tip my hat off to you, Thank you for sharing,and putting Main stream Business operators to shame. 🙂
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@@LMAutoRepairs Man, you're a ' LEGEND' 😇🥰 keep up the fantastic work. we shall all vote you in as the new 'emperor' of Automotive repairs of excellence.🙂
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Good stuff as always, thx for sharing :-)
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Watching your all videos
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Have you had an experience with an 2004 BMW 530i that wouldn't start after replacing the battery. When I put the key in the ignition I get the orange key symbol on dash (guessing to show that key is in ignition when door is open) and nothing after that. When I turn the key I don't get any lights at all on the dash and I can't even get the windows to roll up but the radio will turn on and the lights inside. Any suggestions of what to test?
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Which battery are we talking about?
The key battery, or the car battery?
When you say orange key symbol, what symbol is that exactly?
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Excellent video can I ask if you were to replace and ECU on that car would you need other modules changed like you do on Peugeot's
Not really...
If you have the right tools, no need to replace anything else...
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Hi buddy. If you were to replace dme can it be cloned on bench with autotuner do you know?
Possibly...
Never used autotuner...
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You sir, are very good at this. I’ve watched a few of your vids, even the other dme vid twice which was over an hr. I have been struggling with my e90 320i 2007. I was wondering if there is a schematic pcb diagram? Even with that I’m not sure I can fix my issue. Thanks for the great content! 👍
Unfortunately I work blind when repairing this type of stuff... I never managed to find internal schematics for modules like this...
You need to try to trace it down... if is a multilayer pcb, then things complicate a bit, depending on what type of damage the ecu has...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Impressive diagnosis of board and repair. Not so confident about how long it will last though when car goes over bumps and gets smashed around. Not taking away from anything you have done as impressive but that DDE module should really be junked.
This is my theory...
If he can't take anothe year out of that DDE, is a year he saves...
This repair was done about 5/6 months ago... and still going...🤞
I might have been lucky... have repaired a few of water damaged ECUs... so far, so good... I know will be the day were one will not last a week... lol😋
Still, if I was not confident with the repair, I would advise 100% replace the module...
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@@LMAutoRepairs No problem. Thank you for taking the time to do the video's. I understand it must be difficult and slow you down a bit so your efforts are appreciated.
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Indeed it does...
Is not a lot of people that understands that...
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Great job bro good luck..👍👍
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wow very good work
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How did you lift the board from the bottom case of ecu ?
By slowly lifting it... if I recall correctly...
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Had same issue wish I would've figure it out before I took it to the dealer. They couldn't figure it out with out having to replace every sensor possible before they diagnose a bad DME. Two weeks in the dealer waisted. I decline anymore work. Took me a day to figure it out. Water damage DME.
Sorry to hear that...
At least you found the issue in the end...
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hei! greetings from norway i'm verry impres how u find the faulta and fix the cars i love it! you're the best...
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Great work
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Oh man :( im anxious.. i have BMW e85 .. had little corrosion on one of two pins inside the socket of the airbag comunication module. But it wont comunicate still :/ IDK do you think its due coroded wire? or its not possible. Thank you sir, hope you read it.
It is possible...
Just measure the wiring etc...
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Great work thanks
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Hello man, thank you for unlimited helpful videos, I'm asking for what best wiring diagram software you are using ? I find myself looking into many softwares to find the correct wiring,, thanks again.
I do the same... 😉
It is just the way it is...
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Nice fix.
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Muy interesante y especializado directo al problema sin rodeos y muy bien explicado
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This is a high value lesson, I have a question Louis about how to locate the suitable component on the ECU, IS THERE A program we can use?, Thanks a lot 😊
I just trace them down... I don't have any programs... I wish I do sometime though...😋
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GREAT!!!! FINE JOB!!
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Great video , do u have any videos on how u clean an ECU and products and tools to do so
All in the description of the video...
Not sure if all links are still active, but should give you an idea...
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Do you have store on ebay?
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Good work 👏
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Hi i have to replace my JBE modul it's ok if replace with one from a same car same engine code? or its have to be programmed?
It's can burn out something if i only replace with another one?
You will not burn nothing...
But the module might needs coding...
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@@LMAutoRepairs Thanks I appreciate it
Superb video Subscribed!
I have a e87 120d 2007 with similar issue. Car ignites but when I try to start the car I get no response, can hear the fuel pump running just like in the video but the car doesn't turn on. There's time where after 5 or 6 times of trying, the car turns on and works perfectly fine, and then there's times where the car doesn't respond at all for hours. I have replaced new battery but the issue still persists. Do you think it is an electrical issue, any faulty fuses or sensors or do you think it is the ECU?
Please any help would be massively appreciated.
Scan the car to start with..
Otherwise it is pure guess work...
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wow, amazing, subscribed, genius
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Thanks. Very useful
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Hello dear.. What is the eeprom IC code was corroded leg? Thanks
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You must have skipped... I mentioned it in the video... is not an eeprom....
Hi I live your videos they are very helpful! I am having the same issue and codes... I cleaned up the ECU with isopropryl and tried to start but still have the same codes and the pump staying on... Do you think I need a new ECU?
Possibly...
Or you can still check soldering etc... untill you find the problem...
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I have a 335i 2009 n54, and after I replace my injectors and assemble everything back to code the injectors and to my surprise DME is not connecting to my OBD plug, and full pump runs at all times when ignition is on, this might be my solution, thanks a lot.
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