Choosing Recessed Lighting
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2019
- Choosing Recessed Lighting
In this video, Renos explains options for upgrading and installing recessed lighting. LED recessed lights, or downlights, have become all the rage. They provide substantially more light than standard halogen flood bulb can lights, they are also more energy-efficient, which can save you money over the life of the fixture. There are also aren't any physical light bulbs to change out.
The higher-end LED recessed light options have some new features that make installations that were previously impossible, POSSIBLE.
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I am building a small cabin and decided hey, I should do recessed lighting - so I was standing in Home Depot today looking at the options. My brain exploded not knowing what any of this was. Your video explained it better than anyone could... thank you!
This video is right on time. I'm just about to remove popcorn ceiling & install LED recessed lighting in 1970's house. This is super helpful!
Outdoor demonstration of indoor lighting... It works.. Genius!!
You're a great teacher! Thanks for explaining the options so clearly
Thank you!
@@RENOS4PROSJOES its an old video so not sure you will check the comment. I have existing canned lights with br bulbs. The ceiling hight is 20 feet. The room dimensions are 20x21 and it has 4 canned lights. For the first option, how many lumens of that light I need? Can I use PAR38 bulbs in the living room because its 20 feet high?
Thank you! I needed this exact type of explanation before purchasing replacements.
Great job explaining recessed lights - just what I needed!
This helped tremendously Bought and installed the basic ones. Perfect. Thanks!
👏You helped me greatly, I searched several people nobody was clear as you.
I would add that 4" lights are used in modern homes while the larger sizes are traditional. Good info, nicely done!!
Excellent information, thank you!
Thank you so much! You gave me the information I was looking for.
Awesome video! Just subscribed, can't wait to binge your channel!
Happened upon this video yesterday. Our kitchen in late 60's split entry home is torn down to the studs. Plan to do same with LR and DR to get rid of yukky popcorn ceiling. Starting in Kitchen to replace cabinets with ones that will go to the ceiling. Wiring is being relocated for new lighting scheme. Husband is SO excited (he's doing all the work) about finding the "option three" described in video. Seriously can't thank you enough. I am so happy that he is happy.
Awesome! Thank you for watching and leaving a comment.
Awesome information, thank you so much
This is exactly the information I was looking fir thank you
This helps so much, thanks!
Thanks, you explained this so clearly.
Nice explanation. Appreciate the video!
Very nice video with good explanations!
Great video! Full of information!!
Now I am starting to see the light ---- thanks a lot
Thanks! You just solved a problem I've been dealing within the finished portion of my basement.
Great video.....thank you for the information
Thanks for the video - I give you a lot of credit for not smashing that last "Rolls Royce" fixture - You really kept your cool after getting snapped with that mouse trap of a clip!
Thank you for this video!
Great video explaining the differences. I couldn't help but laugh at the clip snapping you on the finger and your reaction for the Halo at the end. I can laugh because the SAME THING happened to me with those damn things!
Great info, thank you!
simple awesome. Please post some ideas for bedroom, hall, dinning, bathroom lighting options
Great video! Just subscribed.
Great to know the last wafer type fixture shown has a variable K setting. You may want different color temps in different rooms.
Thank you
excellent video Thanks
Thank you!
Thanks for the videa
A lot of times I watch these videos and I wish the contractor was based in the UK 😇
Good job
Great video
Thanks for the vid! Are all these examples you showed us safe with existing insulation?
Never knew there were fixtures with variable color settings! Great to know. Running cable for recessed lighting when this video came on lol.
Yes, can style recessed lighting is so 10-15 years ago. I wish more companies would make canless recessed lighting with all the colors and bright (1300 lumens) and dimmable with Wifi and controllable with your smartphone.
Thanks for this video! I was curious if you know whether they make these types of thin LED lights for sloped ceilings? Room currently has no lights at all. Thanks!
Nice work. Also important for me is CRI. Especially in kitchens and bathrooms, I want CRI of 90+.
Wow, that retrofit kit is crazy easy.
Yes, they certainly are! An easy afternoon DIY project, as long as your ceilings aren't too tall.
I recently did a basement and decided with the direct to ceiling, not only can you change the color but always leaves the bays pretty open if you needed to do any additional work no cans in the way
Hi, excellent video on choosing Recessed lights. I have a sloping roof in my kitchen. Do I need to buy led Recessed lights with gimbal
Our’s is almost identical to the “Easy” one! Thanks, I was worried that I’d have to call an electrician..I’m hoping it has the screw-in base as this one does.
Would you have any lighting suggestions for an unfinished furnace room?
I'd love to have bright light not only by the door, but in the back of the room by the breaker panel, behind the hot water tank and furnace even
Thank you for your time!
For the 1st LED retrofit light, could you cut the bulb screw off and wire direct into a junction box? I have a light like this that has the bulb adapter and also has springs on the sides (like in your 2nd LED option) for a canless installation.
Thank u good brother.
Question..I have that pancake light installed with 3 options. I've got it set at 3500. The light itself is fine but the white ring around it gets hot. Is that ok?
Hi I realized that you've done this video for a while now. I'm newly building and would like recessed lightning in my ceilings, however it is concrete slabs. Can you pls explain how it could work. Thank you.
Can I install light option 3 into a preexisting square Presclite housing? Can I put the light socket off and use those wire the little silver box that comes with light 3? @RENOS4PROSJOES
Will a 6 inch retrofit can fit in an old 7 inch can?
Hi. So what if I have the can lighting currently but want to upgrade to option 3? Would that cost a lot and it be a lot to do to make that change?
I’m teplacing 6” light with the thin flat LED but the hole from the previous fixture is a little bit bigger. I need a ring or frame that covers the hole. What can I do?
On the halo when the bulb goes out do you replace the fixture or is there a bulb in the flat round thing?
I recently bought a new home that has the recessed, LED, lighting. However, I brought a bunch of Hue light bulbs from my previous house that now I can't use. Is there a conversion kit to go from the direct wired lights to the old school setup?
2:26 That one with the separated screw-in connection is the closest to what I probably need. My hallway has square covers that pull down and a socket going horizontal in there. I'm worried about confining an LED bulb in there because eventually the heat can make them go bad. I'm not sure what to do.
Remember to check the specifications for the fixture that you are considering for detailed information on the required clearance for the fixture. Good luck!
Trying to decide between a recessed pot light and a regular pot light - any tips?
GREAT video!!! Please Help..My electrician installed 4 inches, slim panel 9W = 80w, 750Lm, 4000K Dimmable but the house looks grayish/white.
It changed the color of the brick exterior to cool tones and looks awful. I tried to use the dimmer to the lowest set but still very bight greyish instead of a low soft warm light. This light comes to 3000K option but i am afraid it will be very yellow/golden tones.
What is the Best Led color temperature for my black soffit, red brick exterior for soft warm light?
Thank you in advance, M
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My concern with this type is when a light fails 3 years from now will that same style be available to switch it out or will you have to switch out the entire damn set. LED rarely fail but the circuit that powers them (in DC) is usually what goes bad way sooner than it should.
Do you need an airtight recessed can in bathroom?
You should have mentioned if installing a new ceiling how much height you save with the new led fixtures compared to the old can fixtures.
Can I glue them led screw in lights to drop celing tile 2x2 or will they catch on fire ? Do you have to have a can to use them there is an existing light socket already there
How do I decide on choosing a 4 inch or 6 inch light for a kitchen ?
Was it the same way for the LED lights?
OK, Very instructive video, Thanks.
What I have in my kitchen are eight, four foot long 1977 style florescent tubes attached to the ceiling above a drop down oak frame with cracked ice plastic sheets. I'm wanting to remove the cracked ice sheets and replace them with oak plywood and stain to match the existing case. QUESTION: Are eight "can lights", two in each of the four sections where the cracked ice was, going to provide light which is comparable to the existing florescent tubes? AND what wattage led lights should I use AND should I use floods or spots or a combination? Thanks.
Thats a difficult question to answer without seeing your setup. However, if you are committed to doing the project, I would take down fluorescent light and wire up at least one LED, just so you can compare the difference. You are going to be more concerned with Lumens (brightness) than wattage. The wattage will be more of a factor if you decide to go with a dimmer switch depending on how many lights you install. Most led recessed fixtures only have a wattage around 13W. Buy the fixtures that get the brightest. Some max out at $850 Lumens, while others max out at 1150. That is a noticeable difference in real-life application. One thing that I think you are going to notice is the upgrade in the quality of the light, not just the brightness. Good luck.
@@RENOS4PROSJOES You are a big help!
I just finished watching your "WHICH DIMMER SWITCH DO I NEED" video.
I checked on the Lutron DVCL-153P that you mentioned last in the video and discovered that it can be used as a Single-Pole - OR - a 3-Way switch, something you didn't mention. I am needing the 3-Way switches in my kitchen and was happy that these switches will do the trick. Thank you for all the great info.
How would you install that in a concrete ceiling where would you put the box
Is there any heat loss through the cieling with these lights? Would you reasoned scraping off popcorn ceilings for those lights?
There likely would be some heat loss, but I don't think it would be any more than with a regular traditional recessed can. Some people go as far as putting insulated caps on top of them in the attic. However, most of these fixtures are designed for contact with insulation. Be sure to check the specs on your fixtures. I personally wouldn't go through the trouble of scraping ceilings to install them. At most, I would cut the holes, dr fit the fixtures, and then trace around the light with a razor knife. Then remove the fixture and only scrape away the popcorn that would be underneath the lip of the fixture and potentially affect the way the light sits in the hole.
Approximately what are the prices for each of those LEDs and can they all be
On a dimmer switch?
All very interesting. I am considering installing recessed lighting in several rooms. I don't know how to properly space the fixtures apart. Any information will be appreciated. I have been doing commercial electrical work for 30 years but architects did all the design and layout. Thanks!
They make a ton of different ones, and they call come with slightly different specs. Sketch out your space and draw some different configurations using different spacing and see what you like best. If you are using the 6 inch ones, I wouldn't have them any closer than around 5 feet unless you have ceilings taller than 8 feet or your in a kitchen and you want it really bright. How this helps.
@@RENOS4PROSJOES Thank You for the advice. I have all the tools and material I need. I take pride in my work and want to get it right. I like the 5 foot spacing suggestion. MJ
@@MarkJohnson-ht8wd research I have done suggests start 2 feet from a wall or obstruction like an upper cabinet, then space the width of the fixture. 4 inch 4 feet, 6 inch 6 feet, etc. Then 100% use dimmers for them. They're great for ambient lighting but you should consider task lighting as well for islands, under cabinets, etc. Hope that helps.
What was the second option called?
Can you replace the led light bulbs?
I'm remodeling and cannot figure out if to use the retrofit can or go canless. I really want the dimmable option. Would it be better to go canless?
Some retrofits may be dimmable. But if it were me, I would go with the canless, but its going to be more work to remove the old ones.
Hi. Is there away for me to to wore up some sort of dusk to dawn sensor outside instead of wiring these led lights to a sensor switch inside my home?
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If I would of know how easy this was I would of changed my retrofit lights years ago 🤦🏼♀️
If you want to add in recessed lighting to a ceiling that has no overhead lighting at all, do you recommend going with the can-less led lights?
After watching the full video, I think the third option is probably best.
Wafer recessed lights for sure.
No options for new install like after removing drywall and installing new? Would you put in the hard mounted cans or still use the retrofit shallow ones?
The retrofit cans are so easy to install, I think I would still go with the wafers even on new construction and "gut to the studs" remodels.
Where state are your located in?
I’m torn on picking a 4” or 6” sized halo lights. The electrician recommended the 4” due to cosmetic appearance. Do you have any opinions? Which do you fit most of? Thanks.
That's a tough call. One factor you may want to consider is how much light you need. You also want to consider how much ceiling space you have to spread them out. The big ones look funny if they are too close. I personally always prefer the big 6" lights. But it totally comes down to preference. For big kitchens and large common rooms, I like to go big, but the smaller ones likely would work just as well, just a bit less bright. I like to have more than enough light and then control them with a dimmer. Hope this helps.
RENOS 4 PROS & JOES thanks for the reply. Our home is tiny at 1150 total sq ft. So you could imagine the rooms are all small to begin with.
@@Beck-Stein I would say that your electrician gave you good advice. Go with the smaller ones. Cheers!
Why are we putting another can put housing on top of existing housing? Can’t you just upgrade the bulb to led in regards to color and brightness?
Generally speaking, the bulbs are not as bright and have a shorter lifespan.
⚠️ Flat faced Halogen PAR38 lights with a Lurton Maestro cascading dimmer’s are true color rendering and bring the lights up and down in a ramp up and ramp down manner. These will last over 20 years as you don’t run them on high anyway. The dimmer to look for has 7 pencil tip sized LEDs on one side. There are several models, one for regular incandescent which includes Halogen, one for LEDs and another for electronic transformers found in low voltage track lights and monopoints such as *PAR36. Right now LED’s are spectrum specific and cause a chalk like pasty white color on wood grains and stone counter tops. The LED industry needs a full spectrum light RGB solution that renders colors true and natural. Also, in kitchens, center the down lights onto counter surfaces. Far too many installations have the lights shining down on or behind peoples heads and causing shadows on the work surfaces. That also makes the room look smaller. Because open kitchen concepts bleed over into family room areas, the lack of dimming capability doesn’t allow for a low level relaxing level after dinner, another common problem with LED’s. If you have a stone countertop with rich colors, LEDs make it look flat and pasty. Go get sample lights and try it first on an extension cord and a ladder. You can return what you don’t want and you can pick what you like the best.
Once LEDs can compete in true color rendering with dimability, I will be all in. For now they fail to deliver the sanctuary of truth in color and my objective is truth and warmth first. Lighting is 20% of a residential electric bill. If the lights are in a kitchen, these only run for a few hours a day anyway.
*Buy the way, paintings and sculptures are best lit with PAR36 on tracks or monopoint singles. The truest color rendering narrow spots for this application is the Sylvania Capsylite series. It literally makes it look like a museum. The colors pop and peoples complements are very praising. If you go this route, there are narrow spots and various floods. Before chopping any holes, I hook up the lights with an extension cord on a ladder illuminating the painting or sculpture and pick the right light at the exact mounting distance. This gives you truth without guessing or hoping.
CRI >98 are easily achieved with high end COB luminaries. PAR lamps??? That is retro. I bet they look amazing next to T12 fluorescent lights too lol.
My brother in law bought about 30 of the Halo models you showed from Home Depot. They were about $30 each. I installed Torchstars from Amazon for about ¼ the price of Halo. He likes to waste $ though so I’m not surprised.
I understand your point of view from a price standpoint. All of these lights are relatively new technology, so we all are going to have to wait and see how well the perform over time. However, if purchased from a big box retailer, the return process is a breeze if there is a problem down the line. I read the return procedure for the lights you are referencing, they used terms like "restocking fees", "tracking numbers" and "warehouse arrival confirmation." Yuck! With that said, the lower price is tempting, and I am planning to try out some of the less expensive lights very soon on a smaller project. Thanks for the comment. Cheers!
@@RENOS4PROSJOES
Those are good points, but if the reliability is even half as good as the Halo fixtures, then IMO, the Torchstars are worth it considering they are about ¼ the price of Halos. I'll be needing about 80-100 new LEDs in the house we're buying soon and that difference will be in the thousands of dollars.
Cheers.
Any of these dimmable via a lutron switch?
Yes. More information is needed because Lutron makes a wide variety of dimmer switches and you have to select the switch based on the number of lights, poles, and the brand of light.
@@RENOS4PROSJOES one is simple switch at top of staircase with dimmer switch located at bottom which would run 5 LED lights. Circuit Breaker panel only has one rated at 15 Amps. Looking to use the flat 6" halos which I can get at our local Home Depot
i took the option of putting in a standard led light bulb.... is there something i am missing?
The Led bulb is less bright, lower color accuracy, and don't look as modern.
How does that differ from twisting a led bulb?
Hi, good question. The LED fixture is much brighter than an LED bulb( 1160 lumens vs 650 lumens). The LED fixtures also last twice as long. The LED fixtures use slightly more electricity than LED bulbs (BR30), but its not much (approx 5 watts). The LED fixtures have a more uniform and modern look. The LED fixtures are also available in a wider variety of color temperatures. Some LED fixtures, like the nicest one featured in this video, can actually change color temperatures. Many LED fixtures are also rated for moisture and outdoor use. Cheers!
So why would someone want to choose option 1 vs. just screwing LED bulbs in?
Brightness, quality of light, color temperature options, energy savings, cosmetic preference.
Everybody talking about how those slim led are great. What about when you have to replace it in 3-5 years? Instead of replacing a led bulb, you need to buy a new light and get an electrician to reinstall it, if you are not a handy person?
What type of lighting would you recommend for inside a shower?
Both the retrofit led light and the wafer led light (Rolls Royce) featured in this video are rated for wet locations like shower enclosures.
If your bathroom is new construction (or gutted to the studs), then I would go with a wafer led because you won't have to worry about ceiling joists getting in the way when centering the light.
If its a remodel, where there is already a can light, and the existing ceiling will remain, then the retrofit is likely the easiest option. No matter what fixture you decide to go with, just confirm that the fixture is rated for wet locations (it will say so in the specifications) and you should be good to go. Cheers!
Where was the installation at? For the joes? This was little short on the information part.
Thanks for watching. The purpose of this video was solely to introduce the lighting options. I made another video that shows more detail on how the wafer light works when installing under ceiling joists. I also have another video that shows 4 ways to strip romex wire. The retrofit literally screws into the existing light housing just like a light bulb. I have not created a video demonstrating how to wire up a can light, but maybe in the future. Cheers!
RENOS 4 PROS & JOES awesome! What one is that titled?
You're handsome! 🙂
A cheaper option is just get an LED light bulb and screw in the old fixture.
Some aren't all that recessed. This will ad glare on surfaces or even have direct lighting casing too many shadows
I dont like the baffle i want flat n smooth
if i never had recessed lighting in a room would that be considered new construction or would it be a retrofit?
Really good question. If you dont have existing recessed lights you won't need the retrofit style fixtures. You will want to get the wafer style.
Would this be even if the ceiling has never had any sort of light fixture?
@@danteherrera5087 Yes. You can use wafers. The true retrofit fixtures go inside existing can lights, so you won't have a use for them.