Mike Kills Werner | Winner | Better Call Saul
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Mike has to tie up the loose ends after Werner tried to escape the complex.
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From Season 4, Episode 10 'Winner' - Jimmy turns the page on his reputation; Lalo tracks a loose end in Gus's operation; Mike is forced to make a difficult decision.
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Better Call Saul is the prequel to the award-winning series Breaking Bad, set six years before Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk) became Walter White's lawyer. When we meet him, the man who will become Saul Goodman is known as Jimmy McGill, a small-time lawyer searching for his destiny, and, more immediately, hustling to make ends meet. Working alongside, and often against, Jimmy is "fixer" Mike Erhmantraut (Jonathan Banks), a beloved character introduced in Breaking Bad. The series will track Jimmy's transformation into Saul Goodman, the man who puts "criminal" in "criminal lawyer."
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"There are so many stars visible in New Mexico... I will walk out ... to get a better look". Holy shit, that was devastating.
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The look on Mikes face...he doesn't want this either.
Werner's death is significant because his personality mirrors Mike's son. They were both too naive for the field that they were in, too kind-hearted, and they both had to die when they showed that they weren't trustworthy, even if only for a moment. By killing Werner, Mike had become the man he had hated.
Interesting, never thought about it this way
That’s it! That’s the comment! Werner got in over his head just like Matty and this time Mike has to pull the trigger. You’re a genius.
Never thought of that parallel. Wow... and was definitely intentional.
oh fuck. yeah. yep.
And now this video is going to my "Top tier comments" playlist because of you, good sir.
The best thing about this plot line is that it shows why Mike can not be friendly with the people he works with. He was too nice to werner and that's why he felt like he could get away with sneaking off. When Mike makes it clear to everyone involved that this isn't a friendly buisness and they are in danger he is actually keeping them safe.
Yes... After losing his son and killing Werner, Mike does not hesitate about other jobs.
It ended up getting him in the end too. Getting tied up with Jesse and Walt
Thats why he's to cold to walt
@@yippeekiyay7132 no he just knew Walt was a time bomb waiting to explode and he was right
@@clockworkpotato “no half measures”
A brilliant little touch is how truly angry Mike was that Walt blew up the lab. Mike put a lot of blood and sweat into the construction of that lab and lost a good friend and a piece of his soul in the process.
Mike genuinely considered Werner a friend, which makes this even more heartbreaking.
Yet he chose to save his own life by taking his.
Mike killed Werner. Heisenberg killed Mike.
Full circle.
Also Howards body war buried there, who was an innocent man who wasnt in the game killed for no reason
@@spacemann1425 werner didnt kill heisenberg so it isnt a full circle
na they defininantly weren't but mike just didn't want to kill anybody
As a German viewer of the series, I can finally understand why many native Spanish speakers were disappointed with the lack of actual fluent, native Spanish on the show. Werners actor is a native German and speaks it fluently and authentic. Adds so much to the performance. :D
Except Lalo
Nacho also. I'm happy they put native speakers in BCS. The Spanish and German in Breaking Bad was awful!!
@@sunnykaykay nacho is not a native Spanish speaker, but his character makes sense since he’s Chicano.
@@sunnykaykay Michael Mando is of Mexican descent and speaks Spanish but not natively. French is his native language since he was born and raised in Quebec and his family used it at home
@@Unam469 The only thing that's weird for me is according to people online, his father speaks perfect spanish while Nacho speaks a "somewhat okay but not as good" spanish. Although, it could be explained.
“Is there no other way, truly?”
“You don’t have enough stickers.”
Lololololol.... Ha ha ha.... awesome
"You dont have enough stickers"
*BLAM*
Needed that comment
HSHAHAH BRO,. YOU MADE MY DAY
3 dollars Werner
And this can all go away
"Is there no other way truly?"
Breaks my heart everytime.
Werner should've swung at Mike and tried to take his gun or something. I definitely wouldn't have gone out silent. But then again, I wouldn't have tried to escape in the first place.
@@thomas_tk330 They both are professionals. Both knew it had to happen and there was no other choice
@@thomas_tk330 Impossible. It's only going to buy him some time. Even if he managed to overpower Mike, Gus would still come for him. Eventually.
2:20
@@thomas_tk330 Could you elaborate on *_"or something?"_* What YOU would have done. The vast possibilities boggle my scrotum.
“Quite a lot of planning went into this” a single line from Gus in Breaking Bad about the lab, expanded into an entire storyline with depth in Better Call Saul, and an extremely sad death
What was the line i don't remenber
That’s one of the best parts about BCS. Little lines like, “It wasn’t me it was Ignacio,” “Lalo didn’t send you,” and this get expanded upon, and we get even richer world building.
@@Utilizador-gs3lx Gus shows Walter the lab for the first time. As Walter marvels at the equipment and design, Gus says “quite a lot of planning went into this.” Walter replies “I would say so.”
@@ang1759 even that one line from Saul “my real name was McGill,” practically the basis for this whole series lol
@@Bread_Bug when did he say that?
In a Breaking Bad episode, Mike told Walt a story about taking half-measures, when full measures were needed. Werner is an example. Mike wanted, badly, to get the idea across to Werner that he has to make every effort to seem trustworthy, and not push the envelope. Mike probably spent the rest of his life regretting that he had merely implied what he needed to state explicitly.
BS. Mike always was crooked.
@@scottslotterbeck3796Uhm yes but that idea and what OP said are not mutually exclusive.
he can't be too specific.
saying that their employer would kill them might scare them into running in the first place.
@@jotarokujo5132 they know, it's obvious by how much they are paid
@@user-xl5kd6il6c yes, every high paying job ends with a bullet. all the bankers, CEOs, surgeons, lawyers know this.
The moment from 2:37 is so beautiful. Werner moves closer into the camera and for the first time I noticed he's taller (or seems taller) than Mike. In all the previous scenes Mike has been the more intimidating one, looming over Werner in an enforcer role. But after Werner accepts his death, he sees that Mike is in pain and decides to make it easy on him. He fills the screen. He's literally the bigger man, softly lit, extending the hand of mercy even on his final moments.
Noticed that as well
It always seemed obvious werner was taller
That's what makes this show great...the layers and layers of blocking and symbolism
I love this commemt
Great observation.
This is far more heartbreaking than I remember it. Warner was hurt that his last conversation with his wife was one of bitter argument and rejection. Then as he finally accepts his fate, he notices just how hard it is on Mike and decides to make it easier on him.
Jesus Werner.
You really need to understand the long history of executioners in Europe. The condemned absolve them for a quick and clean execution. In this case the follow through with the the widow also comes into play.
Germans are funny. He did that so she would think him a jerk so she would stay away. If Werner had been sweet with her, she would pursue his death and probably meet her own.
@@NormAppleton nah. I'm pretty sure they loved each other and one phone call wouldn't make her unlove him
@@NormAppleton I don't think she is going to hate him for one phone call
@@parveshbisht4955 I think the problem is more that it will most likely weigh on his wife heavily that the last time she ever talked to Werner was in an argument
I like the fact that they actually hired a real german actor for the role als Werner Ziegler, and a very good one, too: Rainer Bock. Having a native speaker is much better than an actor with a fake accent.
did they kill him for real?
They did manage to find a native German speaker for the role but couldn’t do the same for half the “Hispanic” characters in breaking bad
@@mattlane2120 lmao foreal. I cannot understand not one Spanish in the bd and bcs series execpt tucos grandma and lalo salamnca
@@RickSanchez-rc1rg Of course not. It's just a show.
@@suryasingh9738 I think you missed the joke XD
His son would have hated everything his father had become.
Mike? Yeah. He's in many way same as Walter.
@@ezeqeel8352 In a sense yes, at least he knew he was a piece of shit while Walter was deluding himself of doing it for his family. Only in the end he told Skyler he did it for himself.
Gus is bad luck. Can't wait for season 6
@@Ferariiman Mike is did this for to make sure his daughter-in-law and granddaughter are financially safe. But he understood what's the actual score. And in the end, it was all futile since his money was taken away by the DEA IIRC.
Mike was already that when before his son died.
This show makes BB so much better because it really shows how superior Walter's survival skills were. Same situation, you're gonna die, make your phone call, Werner calls his wife to save her, Walter calls Jesse to kill Gale to save him. And to think, Werner died for half the construction of an underground lab that Walter was going to blow up anyway. Ruthless Walter White.
@@avae5343 yup, no. He was a shitty man but all these people killed a lot more than Walter, so please, think about it.
@@avae5343 yeah, and Gus order to kill one. All of them are killers.
@@avae5343 all the characters was evil, what's your point? Come on, watch BCS and tell me that Walter was the worst.
@@avae5343 no, think about it.
@@LucasSilvero24 dunno bout that as walt had his hand in the plane crash at the end of season 2
Pretty sure Werner's final phone call with Margarethe is meant to echo Walt's phone call to Skyler in "Ozymandias". Werner is being mean and cruel towards his wife because he loves her and he's trying to keep her safe, similar to what Walt was doing. Great writing, as always
You re right
100%. Werner is a foil to Walt (as demonstrated by his very name being Heisenberg's first name). He is a man of science, who gets into the game to provide for his family. But deep down, Werner and Walter are just tremendously different people. Werner, too innocent for this world. Walter, a man capable of true evil to justify "noble ends" as defined by him.
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Werner was killed by Mike but Walter killed Mike.
@@belkYT Werner gets farted on by Mike and Walter farts on Mike
walt goated
Out of all people who died in bb/bcs, werner was literally the bravest. Man just walked to a distance and stood there before getting shot.
Not enough people appreciate how Jack's death mirrored Hank's; Hank tells Jack "Do what you're gonna do." Jack reaches for the nicotine to calm his nerves before begging for his life.
@@LAVATORR jack's death was probably the most satisfying death I have seen in a series/movie. Nice analysis btw, I haven't seen it that way before.
@@mw-tj6ob Thanks. I had a (kind of) similar epiphany the other day about the final shootout in El Camino.
At first I was a little let down by the fact that Jesse's final opponent would just be some drunk mook he easily dispatches.
But then I realized that's the point: To Jesse, this isn't some ultimate evil. It's an obstacle. The last obstacle. When Jesse's staring him down, you just know he's thinking of Gale, and Gus, and Walt, and Todd, and Jack, and every single horrible person he met these past two years.
And at this point, it doesn't fucking matter. It's just one more body. That guy probably had never even killed anybody before and was just full of coke and Jack. He sees himself as a legendary badass; Jesse sees him as an object in his path. Jesse's confidence and strength of character came from his hardships, not drugs. It's the final evolution of his character before he leaves behind Cap'n Cook and starts a new, honest life.
When looking at it through that lens, El Camino's ending is much, much better.
@@LAVATORR I was scared at first that El Camino would be disappointing because I thought that the ending of breaking bad was perfect by itself. But after watching it twice in the same week I found that it was a great follow-up to the series. The cowboy style shootout made me sweat like crazy, absolutely loved it.
Not literally.
This was honestly the saddest scene in the whole show
Exactly..
The saddest scene in the show...so far
Just like death of Gale in Breaking Bad
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Nahh chuck’s suicide was way sadder especially cause the episode started with young chuck reading jimmy a story by a lantern which is was he used to kill him self I just felt Werner was an idiot for fucking with Gus and mike like that
One of the finest scenes of Better Call Saul.
The entire cast showed up to watch this scene being filmed, even though only two actors were needed.
@@lison1599 cast said so in interviews i guess
Doubtful
@@zombiebirdieking3041 they all film on location in New Mexico
It wouldnt be a big stretch for the actors to just say "know what? Ya ill drive to the location that night and watch it" if they wanted to. Its completely reasonable to believe that
@@ConnorNotyerbidness something plausible doesnt make it true. It's also plausible for the cast to just be done with their job and enjoy the night on their own. Would you go to work if you didnt need to?
@@pitiwoo cept according to people who were There they Did attend the shooting of this scene
And considering the fact many members of the cast talk about this show as a passion project, im not suprised theyd want to attend a scene for which the script they really enjoyed
Lots of people will stay overtime by choice for jobs they love. Because they do love them.
And its not like this was a multiweek scene to shoot. The cast who wanted to see it probably were there for an hour or 2
“Darling I can’t do it it’s gonna have to be you. You have a 20 minute head start on them THEYVE GOT ME IN AN OPEN FIELD AND THEYRE GONNA KILL ME DO IT DARLING DO IT!”
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@@salshamsi reference to how walt called jessie when mike and victor had him at gunpoint in the laundry
You're gonna want to hold that off.
Yeah? Why?
@@derekcheesball1248 cause your boss is gonna need me
The acting is so good. You can just see the wheels spinning in Mike's head and you can tell a couple moments where he considers just telling werner to run for it.
I fully believe that he wouldn't have been able to pull the trigger if werner hadn't stepped up there to help him.
@@SorchaSublime Yes absolutely. Werner understood, when Mike said there was no other way. He understood that Mike was wavering, and that the true meaning was simply that Werner was dead either way, it's just a matter of if Mike would be joining him. And so, being the incredibly kind soul that he was, in a way he saved Mike by choosing to sacrifice himself.
Why did he just let him go?
God Mike holding back tears when killing someone like Werner breaks me everytime I watch this scene.
every time is two words.
@@gregp103 wow very important information we needed to know
@@gregp103 Every sentence starts with a capital.
@@JesusChrist-ej1gg And every state has a capital AND some states have two-word names. Wow, huh?
@@BobPagani And John Lewis failed to reach their financial expectations last year.
The saddest part was that if Mike let him go, Lalo would’ve found Werner eventually. In season 5 he says to Nacho that he looked at every name in Germany that had that name. So if Lalo found him then Werner would’ve had a fate worse than death. So as sad as this scene was, it was a mercy killing. If only Werner just did his job, then he could’ve went home to his wife a rich man.
There's always the "disapearer"
"If you'd done your job, known your place, we'd all be fine right now."
Strong parallels to Tony Soprano killing Tony Blundetto. If he had left him Phil would’ve found him
first German to put vacation first rather than work
DISHONOR
Nice observation
You could tell Mike absolutely didn't want to do this. I think he saw a bit of himself in Werner, and they had a connection. Werner, as soon as he realized there "was no other way", immediately manned up and accepted his fate. I like how he walked out in to the darkness so Mike wouldn't have to look him in the eye, or even see his face, as he did the deed.
I think Werner reminded him of Matty. A good guy caught in a bad situation killed because he couldn't be trusted.
@@H0und0fHircin3 Not just that, Werner died in very similar circumstances as Matty; getting shot not for what they did, but what they might potentially do.
This wasn't lost on Mike either.
Tf you know about "manning up" a man isn’t supposed to die to a drug criminal bro. Tf is wrong with you
@@trymencity6085 You don’t get it :)
Absolutely, Mike was definitely holding tears by the end.
Werner is one of the few characters in this universe who was truly good. Stupid in some ways, yes, but overall a good and kind man who was in over his head. Mike genuinely liked him.
What a painful scene.
They were still really good friends right to the end too. Mike was clearly struggling to do it. If his family wasn't in danger by extention he would have probably let werner go. Werner saw how he was struggling and helped Mike get through it. He turned his death from a betrayal by Mike into an act of compassion for Mike. Mike may feel like he betrayed Werner here but that isn't what happened.
What's worse is that Mike actually liked Werner.
Yeah enthusiastically working for a criminal organisation, what a gold hearted ideal denizen.
@@thrace_bot1012 There are many criminals with better intentions and actions than the people who actually uphold the law.
@@thrace_bot1012 Werner didn't really know who he was working for, though. That's why they kept the Germans insolated from Gus.
The fact that his last conversation with his wife had to be a fight is heartbreaking. At the end Werner was truly worth 50 of Mikes
I dont think man people understood when you said that hes worth 50 of Mikes
i understood it as, i would trade 50 mikes for 1 werner@@TeesonPeethon
His destiny would be worse in Lalo's hands, he sealed his fate once he tried to escape.
Serious contender for the saddest moment in BB/BCS history
I think it's second only to Hank's personally. But he had 5 seasons worth of build up whereas Werner only had one which speaks a lot to the quality of BCS.
@@TANG3RINE95 Also hank was a badass. He went out like a badass. Werner went out cuz he fucked up and to me that is so much sadder. I loved hank but I knew his fate was sealed once he started going after walt
Gale's though
@@theoyeolive5011 Very underrated, Gale didn't even do any wrong (assuming we can look past cooking meth for a drug lord)
Along with Jimmy crying in his car, or Chuck never telling Jimmy their moma dying words.
Jesse: "Put things right."
Mike: "No. Sorry, kid, that’s the one thing you can never do."
I'm so glad BCS exists because that line from Mike wouldn't have been as impactful.
from what episode is this quote from ?
@@xDamage69 It's from El Camino. If I'm not mistaken, it's the opening scene where Jesse and Mike are talking to each other.
And no one knows that more than Mike, heartbreaking
I think Mike means his son probably, but this too maybe
One of the saddest deaths in my opinion.
we know it's your opinion because you made the statement.
@@dansmith6990 I guess that’s true.
@@talltree3941 Actually yes, by definition anything someone says that doesn't have a definitive factual answer (such as 2+2=4) is an opinion.
Saying chocolate ice cream is the best is an opinion
Saying Blue is the best color is an opinion
Saying the Earth revolves around the sun is a fact.
Understand now champ? Good!
@@dansmith6990 barf
@@HeatyFrog Right? the amount of uneducated people is sickening. Glad you agree with me champ!
Respect to Werner. He knew what was going to happen to him, and he accepted it like a man. He didn't beg for his life. He just looked Mike in the eyes, said his last words, and walked willingly to his inevitable death.
Not like Walter who begged for his life and also made Jesse kill another man to save himself
Walter literally killed another man to save himself, Gale was just like werner
No. He should have gouged Mikes eyes out.
@@Overthinking-rain to be fair, he was at first begging, but it slowly became an act.
@@Overthinking-rain Walt is still sigma
Not sure willingly is the right word 😂 Other than that though, yeah.
The way he called him “Michael” always got me. He was more concerned for his crew and his wife and how they would find out but he know he messed up and just surrendered to it. Until the very end he did die like a man tho.
,, I will walk out there, to get a better look“ 😢 Rip Werner Ziiieeegler
And at this range, Mike is a real Fredrick Zoller.
@@nutbastardInglorious Bastards reference 😮
It's sad how his last conversation he had with his wife was an argument.
Edit. Mom I'm famous!
It wasn't an argument. He saved her & her sanity
Very similar to when walt was berating skyler on the phone while the DEA were listening, when skyler wanted holly back.
No he was mean to her
So he tried her to unlove him a litte bit bevor he go
So her pain dont have to be a little bit less terrible
@@bryeep Walt said the things he did so she would look innocent. He knew the police were in the room even though she said they weren’t.
@@evy2031 the similarities i meant to refer back to was how both walt and werner knew more than they lead on to their significant others and had to show anger and separation from them in order to save the ones they love even when it hurts the most
It's always devastatingly sad when the last conversation you have with a loved one ends on a bad note.
The thought of this is why I always try to leave things on a good note before leaving someone after an argument. I would hate to live rest of my life by thinking of how hurting somebody was the last thing I have ever done to them.
Just like Jimmy and Chuck.
I just realized Hank was the only one that had the chance to talk to a loved one before ending on a good note
This is the moment Little Bear became the man of the house
Based
Hahahaha😂😂
This is the moment that force got multiplied by a distance.
THIS is how you write a great death scene. Mike, unlike many other characters, never liked killing people. That was a line he didn’t cross unless he had no choice. Even though he almost always shows little emotion in both shows, in this scene his voice breaks because he connected with Werner (a loner who was extremely skilled in his particular field). My interpretation is that he followed close behind and at a brisk pace because he knew that if he hesitated he might not do what unfortunately had to be done. He thought killing Werner was unnecessary since the man had made a mistake and seemed as if he was willing to learn from it. Gus, the Salamancas, etc. didn’t have the humanity that Mike did and would’ve killed Werner on the spot without batting an eye. Unfortunately, Mike became exactly what Matty’s killers were: corrupt people who killed an innocent soul because he couldn’t be trusted. I choose to believe this as the true moment Mike became trapped in this hellish lifestyle. This moment was tragic for him and he probably loathed the cartel from then on. Of course, with them knowing about his daughter-in-law and his granddaughter, he was powerless to do anything except keep working for Gus. Great acting by Jonathan Banks here! In my opinion this death scene was done even better than Chuck’s (and that is saying something).
Walking Dead should take notes
If only Mike knew about the disappearer by then 😔
He could've told Werner (and maybe his wife) to take the money and order a new vacuum cleaner
i think it's pretty clear that mike has respect for gus
"He was worth 50 of you"
And Mike respected that because he knew he was a hypocrite and that Casper's words were absolutely true.
It’s sad but honest it’s just really pisses me off that he wouldn’t listen or even try to realize how serious the situation he was in was. His ignorance killed him and it sucks cause he was a good guy
its a really ambient theme for the BB/BCS. none of these people understand the fragility of life and how one moment now can change the entire trajectory of our lives for better or worse and we dont even realize it until it happens.
You shouldn't judge him too harsh for his personality. He was a simple man, who needed money. Do you think he wanted this money to fly to the Bahamas alone? No. He did it for his family. His wife was probably up is ass about him needing to take opportunities. He looks like in his 50s. Look at Walter White in BB and you know what is coming there. That's why he went to the USA. The land of the opportunities. But it wasn't palms and sunshine.
He was in a cage. Trapped with a bunch of 20 year olds, who all less than more obeying his order. No one of his age and intellect to talk to besides Mike. Mike should not have let him do that phone call to home. Keeping that man busy would have been the better move. There was just too much to handle for one man and that one man, he was homesick.
@@7own878 I don’t think he was struggling with money and he never mentioned or gave any signs to that. The main focus was just simply love. He missed his wife and under estimated how difficult it would be to stay away from her for such a long period. He felt caged and trapped cause he was but he should’ve just pushed through. Mike gave him so many warning about gus and how he should really be careful. Gave him chance after chance after he’d already fucked up. Again I don’t hate the guy. I hate his stupidity and ignorance towards the situation.
Man was too innocent
self destruction is a common theme in both Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. Several characters( including Walter and Jesse) had it all then threw it away for no sane reason
Hey look, it's the 2 guys that Lalo has been asking about!
Verner. Ziiiieeeegler.
He's a bald gringo, he's in the game.
@@tornadogamah what about, Michael?
@@pjaxy VICTOR AND TYRUS.
The moment when Werner realises that there's no other way, when he stops breathing heavily and calms down immediately.
When he realises how hard it truly is for Mike.
So he decides to walk out there into the field to make it easier for both.
This series has such good actors and actresses. The scene with Mike and Werner is probably the most emotional scene so far, imo.
My heart breaks for Werner and Mike but also for Werner’s wife who continued loving him despite his last words to her being cruel. Thankfully, she narrowly escaped being killed by Lalo.
i don't think lalo ever intended to kill her.
@@radiofriendlyboxno but he almost had to. Remember the scene where he breaks into her house while she's at work and then hides when she comes home? Had his silencer ready for a reason lmao
It's heartbreaking because the guy tried to leave after suffering literal anxiety attacks from staying away from his home and wife for too long in like 25 years. It wasn't just an emotional decision but a logical one as he might've made some lapses of judgements due to his anxiety attacks resulting in mistakes or errors in the construction of the lab, and it was better for him to take a little leave. And still, Gus killed him...
And to top it all off his last ever conversation with his wife ended up being an argument.
Breaking out drew heat on thier operation and Lalo found out about Werner. He was a dead man either way, Lalo would have eventually found him, but this way had the least collateral damage.
Do your job……..
🤨🤨🤨
I understand about the anxiety because when I left my country to work abroad the same thing happened to me. Still after 6 years I’m working and living abroad (Arabic speaker country) but at least I am bringing food to the table but you know I miss my parents… I can’t go back because my country is unsafe and so many political and economic issues.
@@dannyurdb8616 sorry to hear that man
@@cromwellsghost3434 stop being heartless........
This was so sad. It was basically werner or it was going to be Mike's family. And since he broke the rules Mike had made the desicion.. He was soo pissed with werner because he genuinely liked the guy...besides that I can't wait for the last season honestly. Does anyone know when it actually comes out?? I'm from the UK
Late 2021 or early 2022. The exact date isn't announced yet.
They keep pushing the date back. I had heard May of this year but I just recently read that it would most likely be next year smh
@@mohsinchoudhary189 aw no wayy! Hopefully earth is still here by that time with the way things are going
@@jasminedillard21jd yeah I know.. We dont want it rushed though because nobody is want a shit ending its just far too good.. Sooo many questions to be answered!!
they just finished filming the first episode due to covid
I love how Werner has a lot of connections with Walter who, btw, won't be featured in this universe until many years later:
1) Mike's first kill after trying not to kill anybody just had to be Werner, and it's something that had to be done. Years later, you can see Mike being more hardened to doing decisions like this when he was to shoot Walter.
2) Mike let Werner call his wife to make sure she doesn't arrive, wile Mike let Walter call Jesse to make sure he arrives. Mike sadly listens to Werner having to argue to his wife, which causes him to let his guard down by how far Walter was gonna go to save his skin by turning it into killing Gale.
3) Werner Heisenberg is the scientist in which Walt's persona is based on. Additionally, Mike kills Werner, while Heisenberg kills Mike.
This could also be due to Mike disliking Walter. Their relationship through Breaking Bad was always shaky. Whereas in BCS, Mike develops a relationship with Werner.
Chirals
@@YungMar650 poor reading comprehension
@@YungMar650 Werner Heisenberg was a real scientific. C'mon, english is not my native language, I understood anyways.
@@YungMar650 Werner Heisenberg was a nazi scientist in ww2.. maybe you should but down the qur'an and read a book without fairy tales
Michael really does have a heartfelt yet inevitable connection with individuals who were never meant for their jobs such as nacho, Jesse, Werner, and his son
He should've won an Emmy for this. He should've won an Emmy plenty of times for BB too, but this was heartbreaking.
And then Mike would go on to do the same thing with Walt only to be outsmarted by him, which would end up leading to Gale’s death.
It feels bad for the poor guy and for Mike as well. His hands were tied. Let's not forget Werner had given away precious information to Lalo. Plus, in Breaking Bad Mike made pretty clear why he wouldn't take half measures anymore...
I love how 'Ehrmantraut', Mike's surname, in German translates into something like 'honorable man', and here it is Mike who has to kill a clueless German honorable man who never fully grasped what kind of dangerous game he got himself into.
Roughly translates in Maid of honor!
He has been anything but honorable
His hands weren't tied, he could have sent Werner on a plane and gone into hiding himself. Mike made his choices just like everyone else.
@@Hankblue lalo would still find a way to get to him
@@jagmaharesi2486 That's just speculation, Lalo failed to even identify who he was thus far. Besides, it doesn't change Mike's moral choice. He can either choose to kill someone or to let them live.
What I love about Mike is that they could have easily made him the typical cold-blooded enforcer type
But instead he’s one of the most empathetic and understanding characters in both BB and BCS
Bullcrap. Mike was a dirty cop and a sociopath.
@@scottslotterbeck3796 than again , werner got killed by his own stupidity/naivity .
you know when you are transported with the hood over your head to do a job which pays so good you would not have to work again and
you find yourself in some underground facility and live under supervision in some isolated barracs than you probably are not doing it for a "good guys" and
you should know better not to do anything "funny" . werner took the job under such conditions in the first place
which means he was up for easy money and was crooked in his own way (remember he was also responsible for all those workers and put their lives in danger as well) .
hell he even got the first warning after drawing those plans when talking to random men in the bar .
you usually don´t get second chances with those people , he got one after mike vouched for him and he screwed it up even much worse .
not to mention mike at least managed to save his wife and tried to save him as well again .
@@scottslotterbeck3796 sociopath is a bit of an exaggeration, but yea he was not very empathetic or understanding lol
@@scottslotterbeck3796 Definitely not a sociopath. He's more emotionally stunted and cold.
@@scottslotterbeck3796seems you don’t know what a sociopath is.
"German engineer". You hear it and you think of precision and complex machinery, but BCS gave us Werner, a warm and sensitive man who managed to bond with the always cold and distant Mike. I love this show.
"There are so many stars visible in New Mexico, I will walk out there to get a better look" breaks my heart every tine
The whole scene was the most heart wrenching of the series. The argument with his wife, the discussion with Mike, the tense build up of the walk. The visual from 3:50 on was the gut punch.
Definitely one of the biggest plot twists in this show, this entire time we think Kai or one of the young workers would screw up while Ziegler kept them in check. But it was the old wise guy who screwed up.
This is 100% the saddest scene in the entire show. I loved him and got scared when he messed with the dynamite. And that was just foreshadowing his death. I'm so sad he's gone. Probably the only time I've ever cried while watching this show. He was one of the best characters in the show.😥😥😥. So sad he's gone.😢😢😢
The best thing about this scene, is that when Werner notices how much it pains Mike to do this, he tries to make it easier for him in his final moments. The way the camera is angled at this moment is to show that Werner is physically taller then Mike, he’s the “bigger man” so to speak. This scene is one of my favorites in all of television
It's very, very rare for a character to die with so much honest dignity as Werner Ziegler.
So heartbreaking.....
Mike dies with a sunset
Werner with a full of stars
Vince “The Genius” Gilligan!
Dude that’s a reach. Literally every meaningful death scene takes place with a backdrop. Name one movie or show where someone had a heartbreaking death in a Target
@@bmort1313 Gus's death was in an hospital.... is Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see a backdrop in that.
Jane overdosed in her sleep in her own house. No backdrop there either.
@@bmort1313 It's not about whether or not something takes place somewhere, since everywhere will have a time of day or night, but it's whether or not there's attention called to the setting. In Mike's death the camera is primarily above Walt and Mike and both are looking at the sunset before Mike flops over, in this the stars are called out in dialogue and Werner looks out at them before he gets shot and flops over.
@@Music-gh8fh Walter in a Meth Lab
This is a really sad scene but I actually like the detail of seeing the muzzle flash before hearing the sound because bullets travel faster than sound..
I think you mean the light travelling faster than sound and therefore our vision. The other you would only notice when feeling the impact before hearing a shot. I hope you'll never experience that.
but yes, it's a very neat detail to have the audio from further away, kinda creating a fading away from the scene even in terms of sound
Umm light travels faster than sound
Wish I never saw this scene. Beautiful, but easily one of the most heartbreaking scenes in modern TV. It destroys me even thinking what I'd have felt in those moments when I imagine talking to my wife for the last time under these circumstances. Werner was extremely brave, I believe I'd have tried to take any last chance I'd have to see my wife and parents again. I went straight to my wife and hugged her right after seeing this scene.
Werner Ziegler did not exist in my life until September 2018, and barely a month later, I was openly sobbing over this moment.
Werner was only in six episodes of Better Call Saul, a show with 63 episodes that aired over the course of 7 years, yet he had as much of an impact on me than most of the main characters.
the acting in this show is always on point. the way jonathan banks pauses and looks away for a few seconds after asked "is there no other way, truly?" says all you need to know about Mike's character. It even looks like he is trying to say "just go. run." but the words won't come out. He is so conflicted, he wants to let Werner go and disobey Gus because he knows deep down that it is the right thing to do. But he can't. As he said before "I was down in the gutter with the rest of em." Mike realizes he is still headed down a corrupt path, and he hates himself for it. As we see in the next season where he is basically suicidal. Great fucking universe and characters they've created with these two series.
I've come back to this scene many times. How it mirrors many of my own life choices, being in that part of NM. Watching the blue before the sunrise. Feeling invincible, coming off a drunk or a high. Those long walks, stars and all. There's real poetry in this scene. Despite the sadness it brings.
Beautiful comment, full of depth. Whomever you are, stranger, I wish you a good life
Lol
This comment sparked something in me. Maybe you are still young. All I know is that, as I have become older, I have come to realise how utterly un-invincible I am, and how utterly I am at the mercy of the universe in each and every moment. You can't help but be humbled by life and what it can bring to your doorstep.
Something that goes partially unnoticed to some is that in BB when Walt buys Mike a drink and tries to connect with him on a personal level, Mike ain't havin' it.
There was no way in hell Mike was going to have to do this again to somebody he truly cared about.
Everything about this scene was just so heartbreakingly perfect. From where it starts with having Werner have an argument with his wife as his final conversation and resorting to a lie to ensure her own safety, The emotion in Werner's voice when he says; 'Is there no other way, truly?'
But I think what really does melt me every time I watch this is just shortly after Mike gives Werner the smallest of nods, Werner just looks into Mike's eyes as if to take in the friend that he made one final time until Werner finally accepts his fate by 'Walking out to the stars to get a better look.' followed by the distraught expression over Mike's face, knowing that he didn't want to do this but he had no choice and especially when you take into account Mike very rarely ever shows emotion in his line of work.
Everything about this is just reminding me how much of a genius Vince Gilligan really is and not too mention just how beautifully acted Jonathan Banks and Rainer Bock made this entire scene. Just so powerful.
This scene really shows how truly cold the 'business' is. There is no room for sentiment and feelings. Every person is only worth what they could provide. If they are not worth it, they are disgarded. Says a lot about some aspects of the world too.
"How soon unaccountable I became tired and sick,
Till rising and gliding out I wander’d off by myself,
In the mystical moist night-air, and from time to time,
Look’d up in perfect silence at the stars."
This scene is a genius nod to Breaking Bad and the poem from Walt Whitman recited by Gale.
Have you noticed that since Mike killed his son’s killers, he always refused to kill anybody. And the first person he killed, since the beginning of the show, is a friend. (Sorry for my English 😅)
And he killed him for nothing. He killed him because gus was scared of what he might do.
2:20 I love this little bit, the way in which Werner accepts his death after searching for an escape, how Mike can't even bring himself to say sorry, not even too himself. The silence is louder than a thosand words here.
Not only is Jonathan Banks a tremendous actor, but this German actor playing Ziegler is unbelievable in this scene.. emotionally devastating
One of the many things i love about Mike is how he never gives anyone the disrespect of a disingenuous apology. It’s very consistent throughout the show, every time Mike has a chance to say “sorry” “i wish there was another way” “you don’t deserve this” or any other meaningless phrase he could use to clear his conscious, he doesn’t. You can see that he wants to express his pain over whatever act he’s committing, but he doesn’t because he knows that he’s the one committing the evil, and it would be a disservice to the other party for him to place his guilt on them.
The writers always create dialogue with a space where an apology could naturally fit, but its always left empty.
You can genuinely hear the pain in Mike's voice.
Heisenberg's the scientists first name was Werner. In BCS gus kills Werner (using mike), but in Breaking Bad Heisenberg kills both of them.
One of those examples, why those shows deserve the fame they got. Subtle but true emotions, not going overly dramatic, a quick draw in the dark, a shot, a fall and it's over. Fantastic content.
Im sure after this Werner has learned his lesson. Hopefully he, Mike, and Gus will all be on better terms now.
I bet after seeing all drama l unfolding werner spirit do curse the lab as we know nothing good come out from lab 😂
I bet Mikes son would be proud of his father.
"You gangsters and your justice. You are all the same."
This scene was well done. The flash from the gunshot and then the sound. Very realistic hit.
There is so much packed into that show it’s almost forgettable how many mini stories played out in that series.
almost identical scene happens with Walter, which really goes to show how much difference attitude makes in any given situation.
Just imagining Werner's POV at 3:27... walking off into the darkness, taking in the full view of the stars while waiting for everything to inevitably go black... the shot at 3:55 is both terrifying and beautiful
I think the hardest part about this scene is given the way Gus runs things, i don’t imagine either was anyone there to tell Mrs. Ziegler how Werner really felt and how desperate he really was. She’s going to only have that last argument.
If Mike didn’t kill him, his inevitable death would’ve been likely much more brutal. At least with Mike it was painless. Werner didn’t deserve his fate but he was very stupid for running off the way he did.
Bingo. So many people are trashing on Mike for doing this, when in reality it was very similar to the situation with George & Lenny from Of Mice & Men.
Anyone else back here after seeing his wife in the latest episode today?
I got recommended to me right after watching it 😂
I forgot how did Lalo call Zeigler? Where did he get his number from?
I just don’t understand how he pulled a girl like her lol
Werner is dressed a lot like Walt. So many parallels here.
This scene is really emotional, if mike and werner met under different circumstances they would be close friends.
When you consider that the characters we have seen throughout BB and BCS are such horrendous people it almost makes you realize they got what they deserved at the end of BB. Assasins who killed and melted peoples bodies, inevitably being killed and melted like mike. It all came full circle
Walter was the only one melting bodies
@@toni9890 Not true, you didn't watch it well enough.
@@smoketheartist9501 it was Walters idea so the others don’t really count imo
No guys its actually the acid that melted the tub and the body 🤓
@@toni9890 They still went along with it to save their asses
Is no one going to mention the silhouettes, and how well this scene was filmed. Very powerful.
You can see Werner sulk his head while walking out in the desert night, waiting for Mike to take him out. That's really depressing.
"It's Hank. His name is Hank!!" Saddest death in both shows.
3:00
How soon unaccountable I became tired and sick,
Till rising and gliding out I wander’d off by myself,
In the mystical moist night-air, and from time to time,
Look’d up in perfect silence at the stars.
Walt Whitmen
@@trickie3605 I was thinking Woodrow Wilson.
@@danielkokal8819 It is a Walt Whitman poem
Watching how the show started to humanize and make Ziegler look like one of the most polite and likeable characters in the series made me realize that he was going to die eventually and still his death impressed me.
Fun fact about werner and his crew. In the german dub for the series they actually got the actors to voice themselves in german. Its amazing that they didnt just get some random person to do the voiceover.
The real reason Mike killed him was because he was disappointed that the man he thought was intelligent actually believed that walking a few metres would provide him with a closer view of the stars.
LMAO
The exact second Mike pulls that trigger, he becomes every bit as depraved and evil as the people that killed Matty
It's a little different... those crooked cops were covering there own asses/interests, and there was no guilt or shame whatsoever. Where as Mike is doing this to protect Gus' operation/earn his trust, and feels awful about it.
I look at this more like George & Lenny from 'Of Mice & Men'... if Mike/George didn't kill Werner/Lenny, then Gus' men/towns people would have. At least this way Mike/George could make sure that it was quick and painless without any suffering.
No he doesn't.
People say it's not the same but it is. Mike could let Werner return to Germany and tell Gus he killed him. No threat whatsoever if Werner keeps mouth shut. Take the heat if Gus knows about it. That is if he had it in him to sacrifice his well being for life of a better man. But he decided to kill him like a loyal servant to his drugdealing boss. I swear, people tend to forget he's a hitman for a drug cartel and paint him as some sort of honorable samurai. This scene destroys that.
@@vasvas8914 That's not going to happen. Gus in BCS is less understanding and more impulsive in his endless efforts to get back at Hector Salamanca. If he had heard Mike went against his orders, that's Mike and his family gone. And once Lalo heard about Werner and started asking around to find him, a far far worse death than a bullet to the back of the head staring at the stars would be in Werner's future. For Better Call Saul fans, you guys sure are quick to forget the background details leading up to the situation at hand
He went out like a champ no begging no crying big ups
I suspected his death was long coming, but I didn't expect it to hurt the same
Who is ever after S06E05 .. after lalo meets werners wife ?
This is the moment Mike Ehrmantraut became Huell Babineaux.
What a nice 8 year old joke
There's only about 3 out the 5,000 variants of this overused joke that are actually funny. This is not one of them.
@@theGhostfaceKiller666 - Clearly you do not understand humor.
Where did the joke even come from?
@@rikiishitoru8885 - if you have to ask then it definitely went straight over your head.
"This you swear?"
"... this I swear."
Gets me EVERYtime
Such a heartbreaking scene. You can clearly tell how much Mike doesn't want to kill Werner but knowing Mike, he is always the one to obey orders. It's clear how much Werner's betrayal has affected him emotionally.
killing is probably the worst thing you can do for someone else so once mike does this it proves that he will do absolutely anything for gus, as we see in breaking bad
Mike killed this dude just to have Walt blow up the lab
@@ourcorrectopinions6824 mike did all that just to keep the lab a secret. Only to have Walt fck it all up