Deadly Mid-Air Collision Between Flight 2937 And DHL611 | Mayday Compilation
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- Опубликовано: 5 май 2023
- This Mayday Air Disasters compilation shows the story of a mid air collision between Bashkirian Airlines Flight 2937 and DHL Flight 611, as well as the events of American Airlines Flight 965 and Avianca Flight 52
Experts analyse various plane crashes with an aim to figure out how these disasters occurred. They also shed light on how such accidents shaped the aviation industry and improved safety standards. Along with interviews with aviation experts and eyewitnesses, Mayday reconstructs real-life air disasters to find out the events leading up to it.
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The mom laying cookies on the gravestone choked me up. The pearl sculpture broke me and made me cry.
You’re gonna make me cry
Same here😢
This one always gets to me. A family member of mine is an ATC and there’s no way that one operator should have been on duty. The second operator should have been called back from his break when the maintenance crew came in and started disconnecting stuff. Very sad. Should never have happened.
It's a wake up call. Peter, already couldn't handle the other airline and he tried calling but the land line was down , he should call back the other one on break immediately. Peter was not matured.
@@pangmargaret4731he was matured enough to do the job maintenance just handicapped him too much
I blame the guy taking a shit for an hour or whatever. How nice of him to come back just after his planes crashed.
Smartest comment here tbh
Still, Peter was not paying attention. He should have told PNE plane to ASCEND. Stupid.
Constipation?
Yes! I kept saying, where the hell is the other guy!!
@@CynthiaSchoenbauer lol
One of the most disturbing and tragic episodes of air disaster I have ever seen in my life
This was utterly heartbreaking. How awful. Those poor children.
What breaks my heart is that had they not missed that first flight this could possibly not have happened
Anything to blame to absolve the criminal negligence of the SkyDrive crew. Well done crafty one ! Peter was the direct, immediate cause of the crash. He would be perfectly aware of the TCAS function and yet he chose to issue instructions to a single aircraft. At the absolute minimum he should've given descend instructions to one aircraft and climb to the other. He did not. Instead he fixated on the Russian aircraft. He also gave erroneous information to the Russian crew - telling them the DHL flight was on their right whereas it was actually on the left. This would have the crew looking in the wrong direction for traffic. When they did spot the DHL plane, on their left, it was hopelessly too late. While Peter Nielsen was only one link in a chain of criminal indifference and incompetence, he was nonetheless the person who finally doomed both aircraft and he is not without blame. Skyguide were forced to pay a pittance to the survivors of those murdered and were not held criminally responsible - the most any of them received was a small fine. Indeed, they had the audacity to sue the Russian Airline for damages.
The flight would have still flew so other people will die
And maybe the same would have happened if they were on a train, or a bus.
It was all a chain of coincidences, from the children missing their original flight, the unscheduled repairs at the control tower, confusion about TCAS etc. It was tragic and sad
That's always how it is. No single thing is supposed to be able to down a liner so it takes many factors coming together. There are always multiple checks for everything so something has to missed several times by several people for a mistake to happen
Peter was the direct, immediate cause of the crash. He would be perfectly aware of the TCAS function and yet he chose to issue instructions to a single aircraft. At the absolute minimum he should've given descend instructions to one aircraft and climb to the other. He did not. Instead he fixated on the Russian aircraft. He also gave erroneous information to the Russian crew - telling them the DHL flight was on their right whereas it was actually on the left. This would have the crew looking in the wrong direction for traffic. When they did spot the DHL plane, on their left, it was hopelessly too late. While Peter Nielsen was only one link in a chain of criminal indifference and incompetence, he was nonetheless the person who finally doomed both aircraft and he is not without blame. Skyguide were forced to pay a pittance to the survivors of those murdered and were not held criminally responsible - the most any of them received was a small fine. Indeed, they had the audacity to sue the Russian Airline for damages.
There was no confusion on the TCAS though, the pilots were merely following the air traffic controller guidance which incompetency led to this horrible disaster.
I don't agree. It has nothing to do with coincidence. Thats like saying it was the children's destiny to die in by flying, and the controller Peter was destined to be murdered by one of the fathers. It was a shame that psychics weren't there to intervene. The repairs should have been scheduled for a time when there were more people working not less. But would that have really mattered.
It’s reminds me of final destination, crazy if one of those things didn’t happen this crash would have been avoided.
Amazing he found his daughter and her pearls. How sad to have gone through that. Just a sad story for all involved.
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I wonder how the killer's wife & daughters would feel knowing he went on a revenge hunt and stabbed Peter Nielsen to death in front of his wife & children? Sicko!
At first I was happy that he found his daughter and could feel he was the first to get to her after the tragedy. But, now I think this was more traumatizing for him to witness the scene and is why they were discouraged of allowing families of the victims to participate. Maybe it is better that others find deceased and deliver the news in the fashion a police officer would in a consoling manner. Plus I think after this he needed counselling and should avoid the news and not get too involved in what the media had to say as they were looking to blame people without the investigation being completed.
@@stacey4u2luv Yes I agree he shouldn’t have been allowed to be part of the search. Just finding the pearls alone would make me insane knowing they were once around my daughters neck. His mind heart and soul left this man that day.
I just hope anyone reading my comment above doesn’t think I condone what he did to the tower controller.
I just found it amazing in all that tragic loss of life and airplane parts he was able to find the pearls and his daughter pretty much intact.
Just a horrible situation for all involved. One I never wish on anyone.
@@isabellind1292 You call him a sicko when the man lost everything you have no clue how that feels. And you can't speak in the name of his wife and daughters either. He should have gone and killed a higher up responsible for this mess not the controller. I agree he shouldn't have done it. But he is far from being sick.
@@donsq4306 Then you need to go look up the definition. And wondering how his wife and daughters would feel isn't speaking in their name so don't put words in my mouth so you can dream up things I didn't say.
Peter Nielsen didn't purposely cause this collision. There was plenty of blame to go around.
Kaloyov premeditated Nielsen's murder.
Been watching this before still cant help myself to cry its very sad.
I heard that the other traffic controller was taking a nap on the clock. He should have been in there helping Peter. Especially since they were doing work on the phones etc. Many things worked together to cause this heartbreaking tragedy 😢
They have regulations on how many hours they can work legally. If he entered, he would have lost his job. If the plane crashed whilst he was in the tower, then he would be rotting in jail...
You're right He shouldn't have take a Nap and He Should have Helped Peter instead
You heard??? Every second of every movement of both men was deeply and repeatedly investigated, and taking a nap during a shift is impossible both morally and physically for a Swiss air traffic controller at the Zürich airport. Get a grip, check your sources.
Peter was the direct, immediate cause of the crash. He would be perfectly aware of the TCAS function and yet he chose to issue instructions to a single aircraft. At the absolute minimum he should've given descend instructions to one aircraft and climb to the other. He did not. Instead he fixated on the Russian aircraft. He also gave erroneous information to the Russian crew - telling them the DHL flight was on their right whereas it was actually on the left. This would have the crew looking in the wrong direction for traffic. When they did spot the DHL plane, on their left, it was hopelessly too late. While Peter Nielsen was only one link in a chain of criminal indifference and incompetence, he was nonetheless the person who finally doomed both aircraft and he is not without blame. Skyguide were forced to pay a pittance to the survivors of those murdered and were not held criminally responsible - the most any of them received was a small fine. Indeed, they had the audacity to sue the Russian Airline for damages!
@lilianevanfrankrijk7490 The guy was doing what, then? Having a snack?
I feel for both, the man who lost his family (Vitaly)
and for the air traffic controller (Peter). This is why the media should exercise caution, rumors can kill, and it's not right. This poor man just snapped and did something irrational.
wtf he did what he was told as for the man wanting to meet peter then you tell him no, but his name and face is right here and im not even the man looking or i had just found him right here
@@williamwray9454 You have just typed the most incomprehensible paragraph I have ever read. I can’t even tell if it’s supposed to be a sentence or a paragraph. Please go back to school.
So you went to college and that's the best insult you have lolkids go back to school kid
Of course you are correct. This is why people need to seek help for healing, which this man never did.
@@doggylover108 Maybe he's drunk. I couldn't fathom what he was trying to say, too.
Felt bad for peter. Rest In Peace and all who died that night
Peter was the direct, immediate cause of the crash. He would be perfectly aware of the TCAS function and yet he chose to issue instructions to a single aircraft. At the absolute minimum he should've given descend instructions to one aircraft and climb to the other. He did not. Instead he fixated on the Russian aircraft. He also gave erroneous information to the Russian crew - telling them the DHL flight was on their right whereas it was actually on the left. This would have the crew looking in the wrong direction for traffic. When they did spot the DHL plane, on their left, it was hopelessly too late. While Peter Nielsen was only one link in a chain of criminal indifference and incompetence, he was nonetheless the person who finally doomed both aircraft and he is not without blame. Skyguide were forced to pay a pittance to the survivors of those murdered and were not held criminally responsible - the most any of them received was a small fine. Indeed, they had the audacity to sue the Russian Airline for damages.
this crash really broke my heart , im so sorry for all involved, the tragedy is beyond sad , rip
Which one...there are like 3 in this video alone
@@deaconstjohn4842 one in the title
Peter was the direct, immediate cause of the crash. He would be perfectly aware of the TCAS function and yet he chose to issue instructions to a single aircraft. At the absolute minimum he should've given descend instructions to one aircraft and climb to the other. He did not. Instead he fixated on the Russian aircraft. He also gave erroneous information to the Russian crew - telling them the DHL flight was on their right whereas it was actually on the left. This would have the crew looking in the wrong direction for traffic. When they did spot the DHL plane, on their left, it was hopelessly too late. While Peter Nielsen was only one link in a chain of criminal indifference and incompetence, he was nonetheless the person who finally doomed both aircraft and he is not without blame. Skyguide were forced to pay a pittance to the survivors of those murdered and were not held criminally responsible - the most any of them received was a small fine. Indeed, they had the audacity to sue the Russian Airline for damages.
I can’t stop crying watching this
Peter was not to blame. Unfortunately I know that deep down he will always blame himself, no matter what anyone says. But the fact is, this was not peters fault. He was extremely let down by a large number of other people who were supposed to be working in conjunction with him to keep everyone safe. Not one single person is to blame for this. This was an absolute tragedy that was not caused by one single person. All of the passengers, the pilots, their families, those in air traffic control, will always be in my prayers 💔 x
Yes he did blame himself the rest of his life. He was kiled by a father of the vitcims not two years after the crach.
BWahahahahha - Wait you are serious??!?!
He was incompetent idiot who couldnt manage his own duty. PERIOD!
Only bad thing in this whole event when he got murdered is that Sky Guard managers didnt go down with him.
That would meant that justice is at least a bit satisfied. If it was left for Swiss authority pricks to decide, he would still be around now and be happy with his family. FUCK THAT! He killed sooooo many ppl and kids - he deserved death!
P.S. As for "Not one single person is to blame for this" - stick that where sun doesnt shine, Peter and his MANAGERS are to blame!!
Hes dead....
@@liukang3545 I know.
@@KuvDabGib i was talking to this melodramatic girl, not you
So Sorry I hope the families find peace, especially the families who lost their children. I hope they find comfort in the children
found on land where schoolhouse handicapped children and now the fallen children are angels and they will protect the handicapped children. RIP God Bless the families and find Peace.
Huh? God bless??
A plane full of kids die. Handicapped people die on the ground, as if being handicapped wasn’t enough.
Man gets murdered.
Yeah thanks god!
And don’t give me the free will crap. Apparently he knows what’s going to happen in the future, it’s already been mapped out. Ergo he wanted all this to happen. What a sadistic asshole 😊
Crazy that Avianca didn't communicate the severity of the situation. And also crazy that the controller left in the middle of landing - just see it through man.
They made a movie about this, stared Arnold Schwarsanegger, as the father. It was a sad sad movie. the movie was called " aftermath" i recommend this movie but im a kid so i dunno
You're quite the awesome kid. 👍❤️
This is the first one I have watched about Peter Neilson that lets me know they have a vase with a single rose in it as a reminder of Peter. This is good as it is a constant reminder to them not to put too much pressure and work on any ATC.
Peter was the direct, immediate cause of the crash. He would be perfectly aware of the TCAS function and yet he chose to issue instructions to a single aircraft. At the absolute minimum he should've given descend instructions to one aircraft and climb to the other. He did not. Instead he fixated on the Russian aircraft. He also gave erroneous information to the Russian crew - telling them the DHL flight was on their right whereas it was actually on the left. This would have the crew looking in the wrong direction for traffic. When they did spot the DHL plane, on their left, it was hopelessly too late. While Peter Nielsen was only one link in a chain of criminal indifference and incompetence, he was nonetheless the person who finally doomed both aircraft and he is not without blame. Skyguide were forced to pay a pittance to the survivors of those murdered and were not held criminally responsible - the most any of them received was a small fine. Indeed, they had the audacity to sue the Russian Airline for damages!
Peter wasn't overworked. He was stupid and careless
Feeling very sorry for Russian families who lost children who perished in collision
It wasn’t Peter fault
Vitaly was consumed with vengeance that he didn't listen to the explanations from Skyguide. But like we said, if you're gonna blame someone for killing your family, blame the company, not a former controller
He shouldn’t have been left alone at the controls!
No of course not it was maintenance crews get big mistakes
whos fault was it than? cmon. he didnt communicate timely w the planes than told the plane the wrong thing. also doing too much..he shouldve focused on the 2 planes at the same altitude and dealt w that over anything else.
@@wildncrazyguy21It was the fault of Skyguide for not having the proper precautions in place. Such as disallowing maintenance while only one controller is in the room. Understand that the human being makes mistakes. Mistakes should not end in disaster. Peter was overwhelmed, had communication cut off, and was left without critical systems functioning. Any human in the same position would have been very likely to end up the same. The last procedure to enact would be that a controller MUST instruct both planes. Such as telling one to descend and the other to stay level. Peter did not purposefully cause the accident nor did he know what could have happened. Placing the blame on him is merely a scapegoat for the ineptitude of the company
This is sad. My heart goes out to those who were killed. And to Peter, an innocent man who was just doing his job. To blame Peter for THEIR foul up is appalling. I hope Peter's name gets cleared.
Their? I dont believe for a second Peter was innocent, The Russophobicn hate is apparent all around. This plane was intentionally downed, period.
No. He was the direct, immediate cause of the crash. He would be perfectly aware of the TCAS function and yet he chose to issue instructions to a single aircraft. At the absolute minimum he should've given descend instructions to one aircraft and climb to the other. He did not. Instead he fixated on the Russian aircraft. He also gave erroneous information to the Russian crew - telling them the DHL flight was on their right whereas it was actually on the left. This would have the crew looking in the wrong direction for traffic. When they did spot the DHL plane, on their left, it was hopelessly too late. While Peter Nielsen was only one link in a chain of criminal indifference and incompetence, he was nonetheless the person who finally doomed both aircraft and he is not without blame. Skyguide were forced to pay a pittance to the survivors of those murdered and were not held criminally responsible - the most any of them received was a small fine. Indeed, they had the audacity to sue the Russian Airline for damages.
@@davidgapp1457 I think there were a whole lot of incidents, that lead up to this crash & Peter was only one of many.
@@budderkupp1282 Yes, absolutely true. Management is never held responsible. I worked in mining and mine safety. We were required to recommission a mine that had been shut down for being non-profitable. The equipment was already end-of-life and several years of neglect meant the system was inoperable. The entire mine control systems, and all the wiring, was intrinsically unsafe. But the choice was to patch the system back to life or walk away. Walking away meant I would never work in the industry again (the mining company saw to that). Inevitably, a train carrying ore ran away and smashed into the active mine all, killing many people and triggering a partial collapse. Several engineers went to jail - and exactly no-one who was responsible. By the time this happened I had already left the country in search of work.
@@davidgapp1457 Based on a "text" from a "british passenger" in investigation done by non independent parties? sure. You must believe everything you hear in the news, then? I am sure you are convinces Iraq had WMD's
Poor Peter and All The Poor People including the Children who were involved in Those Airplanes. Peter didn't mean to let That Happened, he just was trying to Avoid The Collision. It wasn't Peter's Fault😢 If only Hes Co-workers didn't left him that Day, Than They would have Helped him Avoiding The Collision...
That's Really Sad actually... really really Sad... God May Peter and All The Others Including The Children Rest in Peace...
Peter was the direct, immediate cause of the crash. He would be perfectly aware of the TCAS function and yet he chose to issue instructions to a single aircraft. At the absolute minimum he should've given descend instructions to one aircraft and climb to the other. He did not. Instead he fixated on the Russian aircraft. He also gave erroneous information to the Russian crew - telling them the DHL flight was on their right whereas it was actually on the left. This would have the crew looking in the wrong direction for traffic. When they did spot the DHL plane, on their left, it was hopelessly too late. While Peter Nielsen was only one link in a chain of criminal indifference and incompetence, he was nonetheless the person who finally doomed both aircraft and he is not without blame. Skyguide were forced to pay a pittance to the survivors of those murdered and were not held criminally responsible - the most any of them received was a small fine. Indeed, they had the audacity to sue the Russian Airline for damages.
@@inconvenienttruths7953 did you just copy someone's response from a previous comment lul?
Peter was careless and stupid. It was his fault and the Swiss
Those poor children and poor Peter…..
good work
Faulty nonworking equipment was a major factor as well as the tragic choices made in this collision. The ATC did not deserve to be murdered. Tragedy here all around.🙏😥
Cause of most accidents: Profit.
The reason we are able to fly. Profit.
Omg....rip to all....this is sad so so sad to watch....my heart goes out to kids❤❤❤
That man who killed the guy on the computer's that watches the plane's should have went to the company! Because they were sent in to turn off the phone's to the plane's he couldn't get in touch with them to tell them that they were heading right into each other he tried the best he could they should have grounded the plane's until they had those lines fixed and test them to make sure they were working properly! This wasn't the Guy on the computer's fault he killed him for nothing the sad part the people responsible for this horrible act is still alive smmfh all those people 😢🤧😢🤧😢🤧 I'm so sorry 😢🤧😢🤧 it wasn't the air controller's fault 😢🤧😢it was the company that sent those men out to fix the phone's and computer's and blocked the line's so he couldn't get information to the 2 plane's 😢🤧 this is terrible just horrible 😢🤧😢🤧 there's should always be emergency phone's available even if they are cell phones that goes directly to all airports in that area and beyond at least they could have called the tower's and ask what is going on it might have helped 😢🤧😢🤧
Peter should have told one of the planes to ascend. He was careless and stupid
Some news reporters are worse than vultures. The issue could be laid at the feet of the contrller taking an extended break. The issue could also be laid on management, scheduling two controllers and maitenance is stupid. Communications must all have redundant backup systems. My personal opinion management is responsible. There should have been policy that all workstations should be manned at all times. No exceptions.
May God lift their broken bodies and their Souls into his hands and comfort their beloved families.
Man that is just heartbreaking. All those kids, alone without their parents😢 how terrifying.
Nothing better than having five pilots at board and trying to figure out who in the hell is really in charge when disaster strikes. 😂
8:27 You can see the lights outside using for lighting on the set
There are duty’s that you can’t have the luxury to make a mistake so it’s those people responsibility to make sure minimize environment that can get you to mistakes
Such a big mistake that could have been prevented had every one done the right thing so easy to say now my heart goes out to the people who lost a member of the family
Peter was the direct, immediate cause of the crash. He would be perfectly aware of the TCAS function and yet he chose to issue instructions to a single aircraft. At the absolute minimum he should've given descend instructions to one aircraft and climb to the other. He did not. Instead he fixated on the Russian aircraft. He also gave erroneous information to the Russian crew - telling them the DHL flight was on their right whereas it was actually on the left. This would have the crew looking in the wrong direction for traffic. When they did spot the DHL plane, on their left, it was hopelessly too late. While Peter Nielsen was only one link in a chain of criminal indifference and incompetence, he was nonetheless the person who finally doomed both aircraft and he is not without blame. Skyguide were forced to pay a pittance to the survivors of those murdered and were not held criminally responsible - the most any of them received was a small fine. Indeed, they had the audacity to sue the Russian Airline for damages!
Great narrator.
College students moved to get to seat next to father behind her, saved her life. Glad she changed seats.
With all things considered, why was Peter so casual with his instructions after he saw two planes on a collision course.
Casual or calm?
@@erikas3337 aren't they the same thing..he didn't even check to see if they followed his instructions
@@bigblackaf you’re supposed to remain calm, also he only had communication with one plane
It was a recipe for disaster and no one should be in charge of such a mess and lack of help
This is what happens when you are a slave and are expected to perform like a machine. While slaves fight each other the higher ups try to make profit no matter the lives lost. The monetary system is the real cancer of this world killing millions of people each year.
I find it very interesting how killing as revenge is a thing among us humans. Which benefits does it got? I mean, does it feel better? Does it give your wife and kids back?
Is it better to spend life in prison mourning alone than in your own house with all the happy memories before the accident?
Not being able to grief with other family and/or friends? Not being able to even visit their gravestone. And this guy Peter, wasn't even guilty!! The investigation wasn't even finished yet!!
He had the odds against him and his mistake was one of many problems that night.
With this logic Peters family should kill this father for being a suspect as revenge.
But what do i know? I've never been in a situation like this so who am I to judge?
But my logic brain would rather prefer that a person I really hate and blame for killing my family stays alive. As punishment he has to live with what he's done.
And I would make sure to remind him on a regular basis. Just rub it in how much damage he has done to other human beings. If I take his life it's like I'm setting him free.
If he's to weak he can take his own life. I would't care less.
But this is only if the person was found guilty.
Peter wasn't. I can't imagine how he felt that night and afterwords. His punishment was the knowledge of being a part of a tragic accident.
His murderer set him free from guilt.
May Peter and all the other victims rest in peace!
This story has dramatically changed over the years
Which one? I think there's 3 crashes here. The Russian collision?
How so?
@shebagemini it has changed..it may be legally they don't want to get involved or appear in court or get sued..this story has been out for years...maybe the producers got paid to lie...I don't know
Back up that statement please.
@gracefullikeagazelle go back in time about 20 fn years ..I saw her first two videos about Comrade oswald...there probably still available..what was you doing 20 years ago? Kindergarten? I was looking into history...she making stuff up to sell her books..I doubt she even knows what Oswald she was with those couple of days...why don't you research Comrade Oswald and look into everything he has done and there is no way possible there was only one ...no way possible there was one and only one Oswald...and who can we trust that Oswald actually knew Russian...Ruth Paine? She was Cia..what about this lady? You going to trust her? She clearly says she was working for the Cia and working day and night to come up with a fact acting cancer...that's for and only for assassination..nothing else
This crash was so brutal omg. Broke my heart
You say it like there was only one crash...
All of this was so tragic
Being an air traffic controller would be one of the last jobs I would choose!
Classes are no longer allowed to travel by airplane.
pray for the familys that lost their lives and the children and the woman and the men, they were brave people and were kind
There are two airplanes that are going to collide, and you only check with one and give them instructions while completely disregarding the other plane. Does that even make sense? He was trying to save time, so that he could go back dealing with the other screen. But not only that, you don't even wait to see if the situation is under control. I understand what led to this situation in the first place, but I also believe he handled it very poorly. He did not deserve to die tho. The blame was mainly on these corrupted organizations that prioritize money over safety.
There is a lot going on here
My prayers are with the families and the children they list. I don't know how the families can go on day to day with their loss. 😢
everyone in this piss society prioritize money before anything lulw trash humans
That's how it's done. You tell one plane to climb or descend that's safer than both planes changing altitude like here. Generally someone will be where they aren't supposed to be and someone is on track so the one off course is told to deviate. If both are told to react that increases the number of potential conflicts. Had only one descended it would have been fine but both did. TCAS isn't really supposed to ever be needed. If it activates several things have already gone wrong.
Peter was the direct, immediate cause of the crash. He would be perfectly aware of the TCAS function and yet he chose to issue instructions to a single aircraft. At the absolute minimum he should've given descend instructions to one aircraft and climb to the other. He did not. Instead he fixated on the Russian aircraft. He also gave erroneous information to the Russian crew - telling them the DHL flight was on their right whereas it was actually on the left. This would have the crew looking in the wrong direction for traffic. When they did spot the DHL plane, on their left, it was hopelessly too late. While Peter Nielsen was only one link in a chain of criminal indifference and incompetence, he was nonetheless the person who finally doomed both aircraft and he is not without blame. Skyguide were forced to pay a pittance to the survivors of those murdered and were not held criminally responsible - the most any of them received was a small fine. Indeed, they had the audacity to sue the Russian Airline for damages!
Acceptance, that is. Why do we always find someone to be blamed. Fault finding! Nobody wants a mishap, isn't it? That is why it is called an accident. And yet we always pursue to find who is responsible. Sad human nature.
“She did not suffer”…. Even though the guy still killed Peter, this one line still hits a nerve any time I hear it watching this.
Bashkirian you may be care ful next time we hope we fly you soon🎉🎉😢❤
This whole situation is a tragic chain of events. I can't imagine how the father who lost his kids felt, but also I can only imagine how Nielsen felt after the disaster in general. I wouldn't be able to live with myself in either his or the father's shoes. This show sometimes really makes me appreciate my life, kids and everything that's important to me. My ultimate nightmare is dying in a plane crash or losing loved ones ,( especially my parents right now because they've been going to Fl every other month now,). And yet I watch these to fall asleep lol. It's the narrator's voice .something about British accents 🥱
44:13 Whoa wait a minute, was that an actual photo of one of the children in an open coffin????? If so, has the family of this poor child given permission to show it in this program? I know I wouldn’t if that was my deceased child.
It's a Mayday episode as per the description, so I'd hope they had permission and maybe compensated..
I thought I saw a headless body in a coffin but I may be hallucinating
@@shebagemini It was a child's suit in that coffin, without a body wearing it.
Heavy seasonable traffic, 2 hours late. Merry Christmas trip to Cali.
It was terrible tragedy 🎭 and I hope 🤞 never seen or happen again very very sad 😢
Peter was overwhelmed and this tragedy was not his fault.
Peter was the direct, immediate cause of the crash. He would be perfectly aware of the TCAS function and yet he chose to issue instructions to a single aircraft. At the absolute minimum he should've given descend instructions to one aircraft and climb to the other. He did not. Instead he fixated on the Russian aircraft. He also gave erroneous information to the Russian crew - telling them the DHL flight was on their right whereas it was actually on the left. This would have the crew looking in the wrong direction for traffic. When they did spot the DHL plane, on their left, it was hopelessly too late. While Peter Nielsen was only one link in a chain of criminal indifference and incompetence, he was nonetheless the person who finally doomed both aircraft and he is not without blame. Skyguide were forced to pay a pittance to the survivors of those murdered and were not held criminally responsible - the most any of them received was a small fine. Indeed, they had the audacity to sue the Russian Airline for damages!
Bad day, 33 planes land every hour. Fog, rainy, low clouds, closed runways.
Every time I get to the Avianca Crash I'm always reminded of the Attorneys remarks and that of the Spanish Passengers that lived talking about the word Priority rather than Emergency. There are words like Pan that means a cooking utensil in your kitchen but to a controller Pan Pan means something completely different. If they had said that they were declaring a Fuel Emergency the aircraft would still be intact and they would still be alive but may have some professional troubles after the incident. Basic English is the primary language of Aviation world wide, but there are code words that you must say in order to have "priority status" there a bunch of other aircraft in the hold too that want to get down, If you decide not to divert to Boston when you had the fuel and almost run out of fuel holding in New York , YOU must say the word EMERGENCY. That's kind of it, westerners flying into China or Japan use the word Pan Pan or Emergency and those words are immediately recognized.
It off without fully briefing the new shifter. Most incidents seem to happen right after one person hands off the problem to the next guy. Its like coming in the middle of a movie. One does not know exactly what's going on.
When there is an emergency I think the ATC should stay until its over. Not hand
@@sharoncassell9358 I agree with you Sharon the only problem is that they never declared an emergency, that was the entire point of my dialogue. You must use the exact word "EMERGENCY". Then the train will stop and you can land.
pan pan and mayday is like roger and over on a walkie talkie.
Yeah but when you say you’re running out of fuel on top of it, it’s 100000% clear that it’s an emergency.
Can’t blame the pilots on this one, they were so stressed as well .
Cant hold for 30 minutes, Boston open airport. 5 hours waiting. Holding. Kennedy, 052, turn left, 48 mins. Hold. Stress on crew. Out of gas, priority out of fuel.
Again the "big sky" theory prevails. The thought that the sky is so big. There's so much room up there that a collision would be so unlikely. It's insane that this would happen.
Wind sheer at New York flight 52 crash at Kennedy airport. Missing over jan 25, 1990.
Peter had a shit hand. He did not deserve to die. My god be with all the victims in this horrible situation.
So sad, so many lives destroyed and a town denied the best and the brightest of a generation...
How anybody could blame Peter for the collision is beyond me…he did everything humanly possible. It was more the fault of the maintenance workers who disabled the phones and radar. Should have someone to replace a co worker who needs a washroom break instead of overloading another controller.
He didn't though. He just neglected both planes that were about to go on a collision course, never bother to check the altitude of both planes which were clearly descending at the same time, and just went on to check on the Airbus instead. It's a stupid mistake made by purely incompetence and lack of basic common sense.
Could'a done wo the picture of the little girl in the casket.. jeesh
A bruised and battered little girl's dead body in a casket. Extremely poor taste. How on earth did that picture get past anal RUclips editors??
Flight Avianca 52 in Northeast is most congested. They don't request weather info.
Final approach, violent winds, dark, wind sheer, and watching fuel run out.
The odds on this happening are in the stratosphere
breaks my heart they were just children😥💔💔
Even for the Avianca flight, no sense of urgency whatsoever. Especially, the pilot in communication with the air controllers. Too much attitude and arguing in the cockpit. Baffling. I was shocked when the word emergency finally left his mouth when it was too late. I thought he would go down while assuring that all was good.
Tulua, waypoint turn right, land south. Get mixed up? Final approach. Radio position. No radar working at airport.
Imagine this collision as a real-life game of chess, but instead of chess pieces, we have planes. The pilots are like chess masters, trying to outmaneuver each other in the vast airspace.
To me, it’s fucking sickening how many lives are lost by people being ignorant when they’re flying planes like what the fuck is so hard about crossing your tees and dotting your 1s with all due respect to the air traffic controllers you have an insurmountable amount of pressure and we appreciate how you handle it but shit like this doesn’t have to happen
This is completely avoidable. It's greed that ultimately creates too much congestion at these airports in the first place...absolutely most ridiculous and pathetic letdown of a basic system in place to protect and ensure safety for these people. This was painful to watch
Prayers
So did it not dawn on anyone that if one pillot went to 500 feet that nobody would have died? Unless of course the other pilot also had that epiphany? Its like 2 highways and neither driver thinks of the median or the shoulder. Beyond belief.😢😢😢
The last crash took me by surprise how the controller took it he really murdered those people, it was injustices blaming the pilot, and for the Gentleman who was murdered really sad ending but could try to give instructions to both plains to take a different altitude.
The other controller shouldn't of left. My condolences to the victims families.
Crash 4 miles 2937. Peter. Neilson leaves for the Last time. Couldn't save anyone. 28 children died.
I read about 20 comments - I feel the same way they all do Be Safe Be Healthy Be Happy
We are running out of fuel. How specific do you have to get? Out of fuel...
TCAS needs to make its algorithm simple and known so humans can use those same rules. If the controller had known that TCAS was going to make the Russians climb he wouldn't have ordered it to descend. Something like whoever's going more East or North with North overtaking East goes up and the other goes down. Might be hard in complex environments, so instead have the radar displays *show* that TCAS has intervened and how (like a red arrow pointing up or down, and the involved planes flashing or something) so controllers are aware deviations are ongoing. Hard to believe they didn't incorporate this already, as TCAS uses transponders, which is what secondary radars are displaying anyway.
I hope I don't see commercials every 2 or 3 minutes!
This tragedy didn't have to happen. If Peter Nielsen would've done 1 thing it all could've been avoided. When the engineers came in and told him what they were going to do, he should've grabbed his manhood and told them they must wait until the 2nd controller comes back from break and it's not negotiable. It doesn't matter if it 1 aircraft and its the Wright Brothers first machine, the engineers must wait.
Every controller should be made to watch this episode, in training, and once a year after. This will drive home the point that no controller should ever find themselves in this position..EVER!
Never allow outside forces to tell you to deviate from what you know is a responsibility that could lead to a situation where lives are in your hands. So while I feel so bad for Nielsen. It was his fault, because he believed he could handle the situation he was put in, and he didn't look at the whole picture after he was told what they were going to do.
Sad because Nielsen paid for his mistake with his life.
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In English, "priority " means first , most important.
This was a horrible mistake there’s plenty of blame to go around. But what company allows a air traffic controller to go on such a long break and expects another air controller to watch two screens. That is impossible to give your full attention to a screen. Common practice no that’s asking for a a disaster to happen. Who allows phones to be totally disconnected and controllers don’t have the resources to call out or screens to give lag time it is critical for any company screen to work properly just because you have a slower than normal air traffic in the sky it puts all those planes at risk. The company is responsible for poor performance lagged safety procedures overworked employees. Peter I’m sure never went a minute without recalling what happened that night but it wasn’t his fault sure when he contacted one plane to descend and didn’t the other haunted him. But the truth he has to many things going on doing two positions at once watching to screens which common sense tells you that impossible to give your full attention and safety to any aircraft and faulty equipment no phones it is tragic after so many lives lost changing so many people parents forever children lives lost than he was killed and added another death. I won’t say anything about the father I believe he went totally insane after the death of his entire family. He heard so many news reports blaming the Peter and in his mind not stable took his revenge on Peter. Right absolutely not. But grief and loss and unable to cope can do change things to mind. during loss as the mother of one child killed we didn’t want anything to happen to Peter! Enough deaths. The ones that should have took responsible is the company the string of events from Peter down to the pilots the company set the stage for all the events that followed. but as we know it’s the bottom line make everyone else to blame. The mighty dollar must be protected instead of lives and knew there practices were dangerous. My all rest in peace.
Who does maintenance during high traffic??? Stca system down and phone disconnected, no tech support. TCAS commands system. Urgent command by alone controller by 2 monitors. What are lessons learned?
it is arguably the best MAYDAY/Air Crash Investigation episodes, i mean normally human suffering after a deadly crash is just sad and a buzz kill no matter how detailed they are about the sufferings fats because of the children and the horrible end... even i despise peter n. and think he's done a crime and ofcourse the chain of command of SKYGUIDE, But The one who really GOT OFF THE HOOK IS THE ATC TAKING A BREAK leaving PETER THERE< he isn't maybe as observant as other ATC's that's not his fault and SKYGUIDE TRAINING IS LAUGHABLE BACK THEN EVERY OTHER ATC CENTER APPROACHERS AND TOWER ALWAYS SAID UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES
"BUT IF TCAS ADVISORY EXPEDITE TCAS ADVISORY was already saving hunreds of lives for 5 years, THUS......
EUROCONTROL AND NATS was born.
No lights for airport. How is that possible. High landing rate at Kennedy airport. Management pressure land 33 airplanes in an hour.
I guess, on the first one here, he should have started screaming loudly he needed help immediately in case someone hears him and helps, even if we know no one will hear. It was truly a freak accident because they were both descending to avoid each other and they descended to the exact same spot. Very sad.
Expecting someone to do their job after snatching away all their tools is not correct. Peter was very very unlucky that day.
This incident could have been prevented. Very sad.
I do feel bad for this, Peter like I mean, yeah the guy was experienced and everything like that, but he had a workload put on him that he never should have realistically had to try to deal with that was very unfair to him
Peter didn't look too busy. HE looked lazy and careless. Same for the other controller
There shouldn't have been any law against air traffic controllers talking to anyone that they want to on the radio.
Runway reprogram program, additional errors occurred. Dangerous errors.
Why would you need to track a waypoint when given a straight in approach. You fly runway heading, dump altitude, report altitude and land. Screwing around with computer inputs at that part of the approach is just plain stupid.
สงสาร ชะตากรรม ทั้งนักบิน ทั้งผู้โดยสารมากๆ นักบิน คงจะพยายาม สุดความสามารถ ก่อนเกิด อุบัติเหตุ ถ้านักบิน เชื่อระบบ TCAS ก็รอดแล้ว😢😢😢
At least something positive came out of AA 965. Now, when TOGA power is applied, speedbrakes are automatically retracted. This at least takes one task away from the pilots when executing a terrain escape maneuver.
i don’t think this was anyone’s fault. I mean y’all realize the phones broken, the airplanes alerts, and the poor dude going back and fourth. It’s hard because the guy told them to descend and didn’t know that the planes alert told the other plane to descend, so i guess the lack of communication there. In this case i guess the pilot took Peter’s word over the technology (which yes wasn’t right in this case), but it’s understandable you don’t know what you’d do in the situation and they decided to trust the human. Not to mention Peter didn’t get the alert for the collision another technology thing. So i just wish the mechanic told Peter the whole thing, which the video said they didn’t. Ofc the mechanic didn’t mean for it to happen, just in future should let the controlling people know that certain alerts wouldn’t work. Imagine if it was working that day, Peter probably would’ve caught it in time. But then again, i think it showed that maybe some of the controllers might rely to heavily on the technology yk? Honestly seems like a huge misunderstanding and communication. Mechanic not telling Peter everything, DHL not telling Peter the alert told them to descend, Peter telling the other plane to descend, Peter not being able to move a different plane to a different center, and the poor dude who caught it not being able to reach Peter, or talk to pilots due to the rules.
Very sad story! It gets worse when you find out that Vitaly Kaloyev later found Peter and murdered him for what happened to his family. He went to prison was sentenced to 8 year.
I had to stop watching...so many ads...just drove me nuts!
TCAS instructions should have been standardized worldwide from day 1. This accident was totally preventable
How sad 46 children goes to wrong airport. What??????