Great discipline on the nozzle bail! It is amazing how many people waste their limited tank water while repositioning. It's not like there are hydrants on the U.S.A. freeways- conservation and pattern are key.
Sure however for that fire he had plenty of water for a quick knock down. The scary part was uncontrolled travel lanes, hopefully Highway showed up fast to protect them
@@adog7787 DID you miss the apparatus spotted at a 45-degree angle to create a protective zone? Are you seriously suggesting that they rely on blinking lights, highway reflectors, or a 4,000 lb police vehicle as a barrier- instead of a 50,000 lb apparatus spotted far enough away to stop a vehicle at highway speed?!? I'll put it in terms that a police groupie can understand: it is the vehicular equivalent of cover vs. concealment. Provide a single, citable, fire department's SOP that recommends using light vehicles or plastic reflectors to create a highway traffic barrier and protective work zone. We'll wait for you to find one. "Hose management" ?!? You are obviously not a fireman. Leave it to someone who admires San Francisco to use a term like "hose management." The salivating begins. Stick to being a police groupie, meat watcher (barbecue), and armchair chief; they'll worry about public safety and protecting themselves...
This job is about seeing things from all angles and the ability to learn and see from different perspectives. Someone could pick something up from what i did and the next could help with see something I did not it’s about getting better every day.
Nozzleman did a great job of saving his available supply while getting knockdown. Really wonder why engine stopped so far back & why it took so long to charge a fast attack.
The initial response had its blocking unit out of pocket and this incident was just off of a curve on a six lane highway. But very good point on the delay of water. The OiC chose to take an extra lane due to the length of response from the next unit in for sure a good learning point the nozzle and driver did talk about this after the incident on the why water was delayed. It’s always good to pickup on some of the negatives improve.
Great nozzle work. knock it down - shut it down. You can do a hell of alot of fire control with 500 gal tank IF ya got a nozzleman that knows what hes doing. I was fire chief in a district that had 1/3 hydrants the other 2/3 didnt. Had to bring our own water. Training, training and training was the key in teaching my ff's to conserve water but do a great nob job, dont just bail water. These guys had their shit together here. Only thing i would have done was block off the highway. I always had my driver block the road to protect my people, i didnt give 2 shits about the PD wanting to keep traffic moving. Protect my guys! If the vehicle was on fire, im incharge, not the PD. Safety for my guys was paramount to me. We covered NJ Turnpike, Rt.130, Rt.156 and I-195. NJTP was thee worse by far, a death trap out there. Stay safe lads and lassies. Live to talk about the job back at the station!
Water tank is 750 gallons nozzles 75 at 200 gpm average about 6 and a half minutes of continuous water flow less than a quarter of a tank was used to extinguish the fire. Gauge is led based and was just stared to blink meaning it was about to go to 3/4 tank. Hope this video helps with any new firefighters with how they direct fire streams.
The engine should've blocked properly from the start. The rear of the truck should've been blocking at least the middle lane, with the front bumper blocking the berm. That way only the officer has to get out on the unprotected side. That position protects the operator from a direct impact too. The hose should come off on the protected side, NOT out in traffic. NEVER advance right up to the burning vehicle before initial extinguishment. Use distance to cool the burning components, there are many parts like lift struts than can go right through turnout gear if the explode in the right direction. PUT THE FIRE OUT, stop worrying about "saving water" You're most likely going to need at least a second engine's water on a truck anyway, knock the fire down fast so you lessen the chance of shrapnel from exploding components and tires. You've got a combination nozzle, learn how to use it. There's absolutely NO REASON to climb up in a burning truck, open it up, you have the tools to do that. Replacing destroyed turnout gear is expensive, and you're saving nothing, that truck is going to the scrap yard.
As a truck driver, thank you for everything you all do. Also as a truck driver, please be extremely careful of those tires, when they go they can kill you. On a side note, how often do you all have to replace those hoses? Seems like they take a lot of wear and tear.
Really good water conservation. No hydrant on the side of a highway and that tractor is already a loss anyway. He picked his spots and made sure he was hitting the seat of the fire by getting his partner to pop the door and hood.
It’s a flat load the pull was definitely not ideal especially when it was stepped on. Works well with a more standard setback of 50 feet or so. Majority of the homes in this area. I would like to have a minute man personally but with time I think it will.
Good control of water on this fire . I do think that the European fire appliances with high pressure hose reels are great for this sort of fire . Lot easyer to mover around and gives on a 400 gallons tanks gives you 20 mins fire fighting .
Outstanding job! Excellent use of his water...he probably expended 3-400 gallons during this video...and had the fire nearly knocked down. Great water discipline!
excellent water control. I loved it. Question... when editing the video, how did you hide the logos of the department? I ask you because I have the same "problem"
As a current firefighter great job, good attack when water was fed and good persevere on the water being that you had no hydrant , little advice. Easy on slamming that nozzle shot. That’s sending all that back feed to the pump and water hammering that truck. Could be very bad for the tank and pump down the road.
With the flexibility in fire hose materials can absorb more of the pressure energy created by water hammer. That may still be true but what changes when your chasing kinks out by opening and shutting the line multiple times to help with that issue? How much does the line move and how drastic is the water hammer it’s not enough to create anything so catastrophic that it will affect your operation or line itself. Also safe guards with the set pressure on the intakes itself from other engine sending water it will automatically release the pressure and won’t allow all that extra pressure unless the intake pressures are set to it. A lot of safe guards and technology are in place to help prevent this.
Rarely does water hammer effect a pump. When hooked to a hydrant you can see the accumulated effect of water hammer down the line on the main, and you can break a main from a hand line. Older two stage cast iron pumps from the 70s and early 80s could receive damage from water hammer, it it’s largely not a big issue now so long as you are on tank water.
Soooo I get you have limited water in the truck but why are you turning it off when the bulk of the fire is right in front of you perfectly ready to spray…? Like why try to get up in the truck and not just keep spraying it first? Lol
I’m not sure what part your referring to? The first attempt? If so you can clearly see through the 2nd attempt that the bulk of the fire was knocked down entry was made to ensure the rest of the fire was out.
I think some departments won’t allow them to show the name and/or logo of the department in a video like this or he doesn’t want us to know which department he works for
Why such a quick attack? The truck was already completely burnt, my opinion is that it should have been cooled from a certain distance and then attacked from close range. Good job anyway!
Interstate is being shut down that long anyway. The reach of the stream has nothing to do with how long interstate is shut down. 200 gpm cools and extinguishes no matter if it is applied from 5 feet away or 65 feet away. The overly aggressive attack wasn’t a smart attack. The firefighter wasn’t belted in on arrival and doesn’t wait for rig to stop and set brakes before diving off and pulling line. No firefighter has ever died through the 5 second delay to take seatbelt off , but they have been injured and killed arriving on scene and have been run over.
@@charlesgreathouse7376 I would completely disagree. Being professional is taking the time to manage situational awareness. To utilize your seatbelt and use the reach of the line. There is a 65 foot break over on the 1.75 in line for a reason. You can be safe with zero impact on speed of action and knockdown. This is very simply a young bull old bull issue. Professionalism and intelligence goes a very long way. Leadership is about demonstrating what is right for those you work with. When we make poor overly aggressive tactical decisions other personnel have to back our play and we put them at risk. In this particular case, what is the value in somebody getting hurt over a completely lost cause truck ?
Our lines flow at least twice as much as yours do, so there's no reason most of the time for 2 lines. Most places send at least 2 engines on a truck fire, more if the trailer is involved.
By EU contrast, sorry, but I don't like this. Too close too soon - great truck placement just to get too close with no water. Being close to those huge tires while still hot? No, please no. Climbing inside? Brother, the fuel tank could go any second. Not using foam is US wide problem so I won't put that down on this unit. I do have to give credit for water management. Constructive criticism, no direct hate, good luck brothers. Stay safe!!
i mean ive never scene a diesel tank “let loose” but yeah sure. and they could have been using a class A at 0.5 and you wouldnt know, the bubbles dont help on normal combustibles. you just need to disrupt the surface tension in the water. i think they killed it
Foam was used just not initially. A quick talk from the backstep to the driver saying im pulling the foam line in case was had. Fuel tanks were cooled and no fire was impeding on the fuel tank itself. Water was applied to the tank before gaining access to the cab and most of the fire knocked down before gaining access to the cab which allowed for the total extinguishment of the fire. Appreciate the feed back also can always learn from a different perspective
Completely wrong: full jet at a short distance, entering the burning cabin (I didn't understand what to do) and then why for low/medium intensity fires where you have to move continuously, they don't use a hose reel but meters and meters of hoses.
@@CitywideJobtownsouth no. i want to understand why i watch firefighters in other countries act SO QUICKLY compared to America. I'm sure he has his reasons but other countries fire dept make ours look like a wet piece of paper. its embarrassing
I’m part of the problem you have no idea what your talking about lol. Are you a professional firemen could you do this job better no you couldn’t that clearly apparent.
Suppose no firefighter was there. I think the results would have been the same. Total loss of the tractor, no risk of spread, no lives in danger, not even a traffic hazard. But nonetheless, a job well done.
Nah your wrong lol time to update your understanding of the new fire service and it’s ever advancing technology. I meant yes sir chief we do same shift like you did. Turd
Guy was prob cooking something in the cab unfortunately, these rigs are usually pimped out with tv’s and microwaves. Hopefully he has good insurance this is literally your livelihood going up in flames
Great discipline on the nozzle bail! It is amazing how many people waste their limited tank water while repositioning. It's not like there are hydrants on the U.S.A. freeways- conservation and pattern are key.
Not only that its a hell of alot easier to move without the water pushing you as well.
Sure however for that fire he had plenty of water for a quick knock down. The scary part was uncontrolled travel lanes, hopefully Highway showed up fast to protect them
@@jamesunderdal8976 that’s standard hose management.
@@adog7787 DID you miss the apparatus spotted at a 45-degree angle to create a protective zone? Are you seriously suggesting that they rely on blinking lights, highway reflectors, or a 4,000 lb police vehicle as a barrier- instead of a 50,000 lb apparatus spotted far enough away to stop a vehicle at highway speed?!?
I'll put it in terms that a police groupie can understand: it is the vehicular equivalent of cover vs. concealment. Provide a single, citable, fire department's SOP that recommends using light vehicles or plastic reflectors to create a highway traffic barrier and protective work zone. We'll wait for you to find one.
"Hose management" ?!? You are obviously not a fireman. Leave it to someone who admires San Francisco to use a term like "hose management." The salivating begins. Stick to being a police groupie, meat watcher (barbecue), and armchair chief; they'll worry about public safety and protecting themselves...
Tbh in my head I was wondering why he kept turning it off but this all clarifies for me
Not a firefighter, but really appreciate and respect OP for responding to all the comments professionally and civilly.
This job is about seeing things from all angles and the ability to learn and see from different perspectives. Someone could pick something up from what i did and the next could help with see something I did not it’s about getting better every day.
Nozzleman did a great job of saving his available supply while getting knockdown.
Really wonder why engine stopped so far back & why it took so long to charge a fast attack.
The initial response had its blocking unit out of pocket and this incident was just off of a curve on a six lane highway. But very good point on the delay of water. The OiC chose to take an extra lane due to the length of response from the next unit in for sure a good learning point the nozzle and driver did talk about this after the incident on the why water was delayed. It’s always good to pickup on some of the negatives improve.
@@CitywideJobtownsouth
I thank you for your response.
Great nozzle work. knock it down - shut it down. You can do a hell of alot of fire control with 500 gal tank IF ya got a nozzleman that knows what hes doing.
I was fire chief in a district that had 1/3 hydrants the other 2/3 didnt.
Had to bring our own water. Training, training and training was the key in teaching my ff's to conserve water but do a great nob job, dont just bail water.
These guys had their shit together here.
Only thing i would have done was block off the highway. I always had my driver block the road to protect my people, i didnt give 2 shits about the PD wanting to keep traffic moving. Protect my guys!
If the vehicle was on fire, im incharge, not the PD. Safety for my guys was paramount to me.
We covered NJ Turnpike, Rt.130, Rt.156 and I-195.
NJTP was thee worse by far, a death trap out there.
Stay safe lads and lassies. Live to talk about the job back at the station!
I was curious as to why the constant valve closing on the hose, but knowing its not hooked up to a hydrant makes instant sense.
No wonder the pants are so baggy on a fireman. Gotta have room for what must be giant gonads. Thanks for what you do.
Other departments should use this video as training: you pull a line send water. should take less than 2 minutes.
It's not a training issue. It's an attitude issue.
Amazing job and great communication! Also you
Moved with a purpos… my
Man!!!!! Owned that fire point blank
The truck driver should be complemented for ditching the trailer, and moving the tractor far enough away to prevent an exposure.
He did a great job he was carrying a load that was extremely reactive to water.
@@CitywideJobtownsouth THAT is the difference in a professional and someone whose name is on a certificate.
Wow! Really impressive on the knock down and supply awareness.
Water tank is 750 gallons nozzles 75 at 200 gpm average about 6 and a half minutes of continuous water flow less than a quarter of a tank was used to extinguish the fire. Gauge is led based and was just stared to blink meaning it was about to go to 3/4 tank. Hope this video helps with any new firefighters with how they direct fire streams.
@@CitywideJobtownsouth Anyone serious about honing their skill will definitely find this helpful.
The engine should've blocked properly from the start.
The rear of the truck should've been blocking at least the middle lane, with the front bumper blocking the berm. That way only the officer has to get out on the unprotected side. That position protects the operator from a direct impact too.
The hose should come off on the protected side, NOT out in traffic.
NEVER advance right up to the burning vehicle before initial extinguishment. Use distance to cool the burning components, there are many parts like lift struts than can go right through turnout gear if the explode in the right direction.
PUT THE FIRE OUT, stop worrying about "saving water" You're most likely going to need at least a second engine's water on a truck anyway, knock the fire down fast so you lessen the chance of shrapnel from exploding components and tires.
You've got a combination nozzle, learn how to use it.
There's absolutely NO REASON to climb up in a burning truck, open it up, you have the tools to do that. Replacing destroyed turnout gear is expensive, and you're saving nothing, that truck is going to the scrap yard.
The “fire extinguisher inside” sign is killing me
I see petrol tankers here in Aus with a fire extinguisher behind the cab the same size i keep in my car, it is scary and laughble at the same time.
I wonder why the intermittent stream from the hose -- Why not have water on the fire until there's a knockdown?
As a truck driver, thank you for everything you all do. Also as a truck driver, please be extremely careful of those tires, when they go they can kill you.
On a side note, how often do you all have to replace those hoses? Seems like they take a lot of wear and tear.
They actually can handle a lot more than you think, NFPA 1962 specifies every 10 years but they're inspected and cleaned after every fire
@@zacharycarrier2890 Awesome, thank you for the info!
Nice nozzle control love it
Hitting that bail liked it owed him money, bitch where’s my dinner haha
Respect for the work you all do! Thank you.
What body cam do you use, my guess is a gopro and if so what clip do use use to mount it.
great video you all be careful out their
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im curious why are u hiding random spots? is it bc its telling where ur at or somthing?
Great freaking job brotha 💪🔥
Really good water conservation. No hydrant on the side of a highway and that tractor is already a loss anyway. He picked his spots and made sure he was hitting the seat of the fire by getting his partner to pop the door and hood.
what where the tractor and the trailer. all i seen is semi truck
What hose load was this, seems a bit clumsy to pull. Other wise great job
It’s a flat load the pull was definitely not ideal especially when it was stepped on. Works well with a more standard setback of 50 feet or so. Majority of the homes in this area. I would like to have a minute man personally but with time I think it will.
We use a triple layer, works good but kinda a pain to load
@@lynskeyti9940 If you have hose trays, it's a lot easier.
what is being fogged/blacked out on the truck?
Probably the fire dept. name and unit number, so they don't get in trouble for not being safe...
the irony at 2:17 "fire extinguisher inside" - but they're outside now :^)
Good control of water on this fire . I do think that the European fire appliances with high pressure hose reels are great for this sort of fire . Lot easyer to mover around and gives on a 400 gallons tanks gives you 20 mins fire fighting .
Nice work
were do u mount your gopro
Outstanding job! Excellent use of his water...he probably expended 3-400 gallons during this video...and had the fire nearly knocked down. Great water discipline!
Less than 300 gallons were used on this fire
If you don't mind answering, why due you blur out the markings on the truck?
Department SOP
excellent water control. I loved it.
Question... when editing the video, how did you hide the logos of the department?
I ask you because I have the same "problem"
Everything can be done through RUclips studio when you upload it obviously I’m still getting use to it but hopefully they will get better with time.
@@CitywideJobtownsouth Thanks
As a current firefighter great job, good attack when water was fed and good persevere on the water being that you had no hydrant , little advice. Easy on slamming that nozzle shot. That’s sending all that back feed to the pump and water hammering that truck. Could be very bad for the tank and pump down the road.
With the flexibility in fire hose materials can absorb more of the pressure energy created by water hammer. That may still be true but what changes when your chasing kinks out by opening and shutting the line multiple times to help with that issue? How much does the line move and how drastic is the water hammer it’s not enough to create anything so catastrophic that it will affect your operation or line itself. Also safe guards with the set pressure on the intakes itself from other engine sending water it will automatically release the pressure and won’t allow all that extra pressure unless the intake pressures are set to it. A lot of safe guards and technology are in place to help prevent this.
Rarely does water hammer effect a pump. When hooked to a hydrant you can see the accumulated effect of water hammer down the line on the main, and you can break a main from a hand line. Older two stage cast iron pumps from the 70s and early 80s could receive damage from water hammer, it it’s largely not a big issue now so long as you are on tank water.
GO GET'EM BROTHERSSSSSSS
Soooo I get you have limited water in the truck but why are you turning it off when the bulk of the fire is right in front of you perfectly ready to spray…? Like why try to get up in the truck and not just keep spraying it first? Lol
I’m not sure what part your referring to? The first attempt? If so you can clearly see through the 2nd attempt that the bulk of the fire was knocked down entry was made to ensure the rest of the fire was out.
@job town south where are y’all located at???
It’s a secret
What sat in is that
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Only thing I saw that was fuckin scary was how close you were to the tire when you hit it with the hose. Nonetheless, a job well done.
That gopro is tough to be that close to heat and not deteriorate
Clean
I was really concerned with how close you got to that front tire.
What’s your camera set up
Camera is a GOPRO HERO 8. Other videos were with a fire cam mini. The hero 8 has been to a few fires and held up well.
What mount did u use ? For the 8. Couldn’t think of a mount ,with out being called the camera man from the other guys on my shift lol😅
It’s a clamp mount off of eBay
Ya gotta put water on it ;)
Luke! I am your Father!
wheres the foam
Don’t always need foam
Why all the blurring ???
I think some departments won’t allow them to show the name and/or logo of the department in a video like this or he doesn’t want us to know which department he works for
True story
Why such a quick attack? The truck was already completely burnt, my opinion is that it should have been cooled from a certain distance and then attacked from close range. Good job anyway!
Can’t shut the interstate down for that long…. Well you can, but it’s not smart to do.
Interstate is being shut down that long anyway. The reach of the stream has nothing to do with how long interstate is shut down. 200 gpm cools and extinguishes no matter if it is applied from 5 feet away or 65 feet away. The overly aggressive attack wasn’t a smart attack. The firefighter wasn’t belted in on arrival and doesn’t wait for rig to stop and set brakes before diving off and pulling line. No firefighter has ever died through the 5 second delay to take seatbelt off , but they have been injured and killed arriving on scene and have been run over.
Not overly agressive.
@@charlesgreathouse7376 I would completely disagree. Being professional is taking the time to manage situational awareness. To utilize your seatbelt and use the reach of the line. There is a 65 foot break over on the 1.75 in line for a reason. You can be safe with zero impact on speed of action and knockdown. This is very simply a young bull old bull issue. Professionalism and intelligence goes a very long way. Leadership is about demonstrating what is right for those you work with. When we make poor overly aggressive tactical decisions other personnel have to back our play and we put them at risk.
In this particular case, what is the value in somebody getting hurt over a completely lost cause truck ?
Always stay away from the wheels
Oh man
In Germany and Switzerland we look more for the security for the Firefightets. We going everytime with 2 waterlines and 4 Manpower
Lol why
Our lines flow at least twice as much as yours do, so there's no reason most of the time for 2 lines. Most places send at least 2 engines on a truck fire, more if the trailer is involved.
By EU contrast, sorry, but I don't like this. Too close too soon - great truck placement just to get too close with no water. Being close to those huge tires while still hot? No, please no.
Climbing inside? Brother, the fuel tank could go any second.
Not using foam is US wide problem so I won't put that down on this unit. I do have to give credit for water management. Constructive criticism, no direct hate, good luck brothers. Stay safe!!
i mean ive never scene a diesel tank “let loose” but yeah sure. and they could have been using a class A at 0.5 and you wouldnt know, the bubbles dont help on normal combustibles. you just need to disrupt the surface tension in the water. i think they killed it
Foam was used just not initially. A quick talk from the backstep to the driver saying im pulling the foam line in case was had. Fuel tanks were cooled and no fire was impeding on the fuel tank itself. Water was applied to the tank before gaining access to the cab and most of the fire knocked down before gaining access to the cab which allowed for the total extinguishment of the fire. Appreciate the feed back also can always learn from a different perspective
@@bradheitkamp4173 appreciate it brother.
No one really cares what Europe has to say.
Completely wrong: full jet at a short distance, entering the burning cabin (I didn't understand what to do) and then why for low/medium intensity fires where you have to move continuously, they don't use a hose reel but meters and meters of hoses.
Naja, hätt ich jetzt nicht so gemacht
Mucha demora en apagar mucha duda de lo que está haciendo
Putting water on the fire?
echando agua al fuego
why is he screwing around so much
Bro you’re actually trying to troll?? 🤣 I’m not going to roast you like I could.
@@CitywideJobtownsouth no. i want to understand why i watch firefighters in other countries act SO QUICKLY compared to America. I'm sure he has his reasons but other countries fire dept make ours look like a wet piece of paper. its embarrassing
@@CitywideJobtownsouth you can go ahead and roast me. but i know that you are part of the big problem
I’m part of the problem you have no idea what your talking about lol. Are you a professional firemen could you do this job better no you couldn’t that clearly apparent.
Suppose no firefighter was there. I think the results would have been the same. Total loss of the tractor, no risk of spread, no lives in danger, not even a traffic hazard. But nonetheless, a job well done.
Water hammering the shit out of that hose lay....
Nah your wrong lol time to update your understanding of the new fire service and it’s ever advancing technology. I meant yes sir chief we do same shift like you did. Turd
I don't know why your hiding the firetruck logos its not like we care were your a firefighter at it doesn't matter to me
Some departments have SOPs on what can be shown. It’s not about what department you work for?
Guy was prob cooking something in the cab unfortunately, these rigs are usually pimped out with tv’s and microwaves. Hopefully he has good insurance this is literally your livelihood going up in flames
Kinda hard to cook and drive at the same time... Unless some was in the sleeper, it's pretty much impossible.
Too slow with the Water.