Missing Kansas moms search may be close to answers: Retired sergeant | Morning in America
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- Saturday marks two weeks since a pair of Kansas moms were last seen in Oklahoma. While some following the case are frustrated at the lack of information coming from investigators, retired Tulsa homicide investigator Dave Walker says that may mean police are nearing the answer.
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The ex is involved , and his family😡
I would say so!
Well the ex is in rehab, verbally he can but not physically.
Yeah. But I imagine that the husband of the other woman is absolutely gutted. My father is a widower, and even though we all knew my mom was coming to the end, for this gentleman to lose his wife in such a ghastly way must be brutal on him and the kids.
Grandma and family knows what happened
Sgt Walker is an outstanding investigator
@Lovelaughter790 yes
@Lovelaughter790 yes, sir
The Walkers are legendary Texas Rangers😊
@Lovelaughter790Same here, love the First 48!
Watch the first 48 last night 😂
thank you news nation for keep covering this story!!!
OMG..He is the clever cop from "" the first 48" that we see here in Australia
We need The First 48 in Alice Springs
He's great
If this is true whoever did this is a cruel hateful monster 😢
They aren't saying anything because it's obviously the grandma. You don't need to be an amateur sleuth to figure that out.
@christykloss and the area is known for trafficking, so without bodies being found, she got away with it!!!
@bestbtterbgood agreed! Dad needs to grow up and be a Father to these kids. He is all they have now. Hopefully the community will help him figure it out and keep these kids in their lives also. It takes a village.❤
Gramps was helping too I bet. It's a family hog business. Eww
yep, a grandma took down two women was able to move them and even if a grandpa was involved that is some feat and hide them so professionally?? remember this is in states that people aren’t very educated, ghettos and such. 😂😂😂😂
Hey, I am from this area! I am highly educated with 3 college degrees. There is a 4 year college just 20 miles from where the ladies went missing. This is all about money!!! Rich people with clout. Rich people that think their money can always buy what they want
Love Sgt. Dave Walker! Miss seeing him at church on Sundays. One of Tulsa’s finest! 🫶🏼
Granny did it
Had help with her boyfriend
This is so, so awful. My heart breaks for all, but mostly the children!!! They will never, ever, have a normal life and this will haunt them forever. 😭
Justice for these two women
Curious. A court order on her brother and to get those kids away from the dad in rehab and his mother grandma, would have been ideal no matter who did it.
Very interesting to listen to such a knowledgeable and experienced person as homicide investigator Dave Walker!
Really hope the women are found soon! ❤️
I hope they find them safe and alive. Find that Grandmother the ladies were going to meet up.
The chance of them being alive is as rare as a fat astronaut
This is horrible. Especiallly for the kids
I wish they would show a real pic of this girl and not the "filter pic". Jeez, I wouldn't recognize her if I saw her going by that pic.
it's comical,
not flattering at all,
Exactly
Probably none of those exist lol
Sgt Walker! Love you, buddy!
This is a crazy story. I grew up in Kansas, this is weird. That’s the middle of nowhere. Can they use Google to search anyone who was downloading maps in that area? I know they caught a murderer when they found a body on a dirt road that was rarely traveled by seeing who wanted that map for that road. I pray for these women
Grandma knows what happened
@@SamStone1964do you think so? Why she doesn’t say anything then 😡 I pray for those mothers be safe 😢
@@Emmy900. Because, the art of being wise or covering up your crime, is knowing when to keep your mouth shut. 🤐😅
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Ulysses 🙋♀️
I said that yesterday... you take a MAD grandmother, especially one in the meat processing business who would know the local farmers, would also know that hogs eat literally everything and love meat, are vicious unless hand raised and handled every day.....
Based on the rumors of the "dead bodies" threats made by Grandma, IF she had anything to do with this, She should know that blood can't be washed or bleached away and drains can be taken apart, Not to dispose of bodies in her meat plant.
I don't know if hogs can digest hair. (I train dogs...I know that dogs can not) That would be 1 thing as a forensic investigator you would look for I would think.
yep grandma stated "dead bodies" would follow
Mr Walker mentioned that hog farm. Aside from that there are potentially 1.5 million feral hogs in Oklahoma alone and they roam in herds or packs at night in search of food. Hope this isn’t case here bu this not looking good 😖
There are pig farms in/around Eva, plus the Gramdma owns/operates a meat packing business. That makes for easy access at any time!
@@vascabeall6924omg that’s crazy!!
The granny does not own a packing facility or operate one. Some person in the area allegedly has a butchering facility on site at his farm in that area. There’s a lot of wild stories flying around
I pray to God these women were not fed to the hogs!!!
Devil running rampant!!!
OMG.. do they do that ?
@@user-ry2zr6ze4h that’s what he just said , he’s heard of two cases! Poor woman had no idea what they were headed into!!! So sad 😭
Theres a case in tulsa OK on the first 48 where a guy was fed to hogs. So yes, they do that.@user-ry2zr6ze4h
It happens a great deal.
People are fed to Crocs and Gators also! 😵
Bring Justice to the families!
I remember hearing about these hogs the day after they were missing. I was thinking it was told there was either a big eighteen wheeler right by where all of this happened or something about a big truck with hogs. Yeah, I think theyve probably know who did this crime& just haven’t let us know yet. Probably need to arrest people b4 telling us.
Glad Dave Walker ret. detective from Tulsa, Oklahoma is on this startling case of these 2 Kansas women who are still missing and last seen in Oklahoma.
The idea there was a bitter custody battle going on, and they are discussing a pig farm, where a trough of pigs will eat and devour anything, is sickening.
I hope law enforcement involves the media full force since they are still missing!.
If the cops, or feds aren't saying anything? They ABSOLUTELY have evidence that they do not want to compromise, by releasing it to the public. Those are undisputable facts. The family is being told to not comment. They will find them. Watch. Trust the process
🐖 🥓 🌭 and thats that
they are draining hog pits...
@@archangel807 I'm from Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. Look up, Robert Picton. He terrified us all. He was f**n brutal beyond measure. Hog farm from hell. I got goosebumps when I read your comment. If they are in fact draining hog pits? Then they won't find much but bone fragments and clothing. Good gawd 🤢💔
Omg. Devoured by hogs… that ramps up the sickening factor.
Grandma was involved
Yep - why mention hog farms?
@christykloss I hope.....but I fear the worst, that she's connected to trafficking and they don't leave a trail - and that the daughter in her custody will disappear at age 18. 😢
@christykloss I like your optimism. 💜
christykloss not to make you sadder, but for every situation like this that gets media attention, there are 100 more children ripped away from their mothers that go unnoticed. 😢
I find it especially sad that the other woman is also a mother (of 4) and she was just there to supervise the visit. Now her family is living without their wife/mom.
Dude from “The 1st 48”
Yes that's right; He's good!
Maybe the authorities are analyzing the pig poop on that farm to see what they ate?
🙏🏼 Still praying for a miracle that these ladies are still alive 🙏🏼
Ladies: don't get mixed up with these creepy addict types. It's disturbing AF. These rural alcoholic types will ambush anyone in a heartbeat. It's chilling.
Reference a case out of Plant City, FL (Hillsborough County) of Cieha Taylor.
Last known to be with bf. Her car was found still running on/near RR tracks.
Never found.
LE isn’t looking.
Sad state of affairs in America.
BF fits the profile you mentioned in your comment
What is the deal with all these people missing and getting murdered?
After two weeks the investigators are now suddenly "pretty close" to answers?
Bunk.
Really? Then the must be EXCEEDINGLY CLOSE to finding Jimmy Hoffa. ONLY been 49 YEARS!!!
Sending prayers to the families, so many ppl thinking of you, we dont have to know you to feel this horror,,,,dont have the right words 😭🙏
So this guy was featured on the First 48 Hours show where they stressed how important those first few hours were to an investigation, yet in this sad case, I guess they have adjusted to the First 48 Days.
The FBI has been there from the beginning. They just don't tell the public everything. And why Should they?
TY ... Mr. Walker & News Nation ... great points that answered (could answer) several views. Appreciate.
I've said that from the first time I heard about the hog farm 🚜 I thought that's what I feel has happened, unfortunately. Hogs will eat anything.
People are so sick and they ruined so many lives. Anyone that takes a life other than self-defense is an absolute zero loser
This is horrible! I pray they are okay!!!
What do they know that is causing them to withhold this information?!
They withhold information to ensure the integrity of the case, to make sure a jury pool won’t be tainted by media information when the case goes to court. It’s not about us (the public)…. It’s about ensuring a conviction
Grandma
Continue to 🙏
The passage of two weeks since the disappearance of the two Kansas mothers in Oklahoma has undoubtedly heightened concerns and frustrations among those following the case. However, retired Tulsa homicide investigator Dave Walker's perspective offers a glimmer of hope amidst the uncertainty. His insight suggests that the limited information released by investigators could signify significant progress in their investigation. Often, law enforcement agencies withhold details to protect the integrity of their inquiries and prevent compromising potential leads. While waiting for updates can be trying, it's essential to trust in the expertise and dedication of the investigators working diligently to uncover the truth behind this unsettling disappearance.
Is this an AI response or a real person 🤔
@@raeraebadfingers sounds 100% AI to me. How silly!
@@LoveChild71 I was like... Wait did they put the description here.. I was so confused 😂 definitely weird
Exactly what he just said! Thank you, Captain Obvious, I mean AI. 🤦🏻♀️
@@raeraebadfingers sad reality we have moved into.....why 45 loves Putin so much. It was his bots that secured his position as a world leader. 😢
Just shocking and tragic.
Love me some Dave Walker. Watched him numerous times on the First 48.
Prayers 🙏
So many people and kids disappear - Summer Wells, Sebastian and Madeleine Soto - it’s just very sad 😞
Maddie Soto did not disappear she was murdered by Stephan
Either that or they could have been dumped in the waste water pond at hog farm... It has chemicals in it that could decay the bodies in a few days
Oh my gosh
The media is frustrated that police aren’t giving out information, but look at what’s happened with the Sebastian Rogers case. The public frenzy is in the way.
I certainly hope the lack of information is due to the cops closing in on the perpetrators...and not a coverup. What are the odds?
I certainly believe the community wants resolution.
Thanks to everyone working to bring this case to closure.
Yes definitely not where the u tubers are searching ! In Canada they have had a killer with a pig farm and they will eat anything! Clothes were probably taken and burnt
The ex-husband's mother supposedly told him she'd shoot him in the head if he didn't do what she told him about her grandchildren. The guy was in rehab when the women disappeared and there was a lot of tension with custody issues. LE found two separate pools of blood. Maybe grandma shot the women. The cops know who did it, and they don't need to ask the public for assistance in finding the perp.
Speaking of hog farms, Canada's Robert Pickton is up for parole.
Ghastly
What was found about shoes? I haven't heard this before
He has no idea if there close or not
Oklahoma is very well known in solving crimes, so it's just a matter of time before they figure out what happened and where these moms are. Praying for them and their family
Why did the mom need supervised visitation? She obviously wasn’t a good parent either.
Cards are held close to the chest in every murder investigation. Hopefully these two Moms are found and brought back to their families.💔💔
My ex-mother-in-law was the type of woman that would win at any cost… I mean any. Very evil woman, thankfully she didn’t stick around long enough to destroy my life, cancer got her. 😶😅
Unbelievable,,,
How come there’s no investigation of the husband ?
Sick. Saw that back in the day
Praying for their safety.🙏🤲
The devil is on the prowl.
So sad that these two beautiful women have been missing for so long , Praying for a good outcome but as we know the longer missing chances go down that they will be alive . Miracles do happen and I hope it will be in this case that they are alive .
They should check cell tower hits in a 40 mile area at that specific time
Sgt Dave Walker is an amazing investigator! I believe if he was on this case he would be a lot closer to solving this case than the investigator's that are working it now... 😊
They know where they are.
They know.😮
She brought her friend because she was afraid to go alone…grandma just did away with 2 instead of 1
Boy, do I remember one of the "Criminal Minds" shows that the criminals fed the homeless to their pigs. Sickening. I hope this is not what happened to these women. Looks like they are getting closer to finding out. Thank you NewsNation
I thought they were looking for where they went missing, still. Soooo… is there really information or are the police just bluffing?
Blows my mind is, if this is the husband which it likely is, what made him think he could get away with it? Are people just that desperate?
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If the police weren't already on to something, they would have held a press conference asking for the public's help. They know and just have to have evidence to prove it.
Oklahoma is an awful state. Very high rate of murder. Drug problems it seems with everyone
Funny how cops hate RUclips sleuths😮 Making them look like the fools they are.
And it was RUclips sleuths that helped find Gabby Petito.
@@kellie5476 Actually, it was a couple in an RV on vacation that realized they snapped a photo of the van's last known location and notified law enforcement.
@@jgjg3848 Yeah they had a RUclips channel and were aware of the case.
@@jgjg3848 RUclipsrs who have a channel Red White and Bethune found her. They travel around in their RV.
@@kellie5476yes. The RUclips channel Red White and Bethune found her.
I'm sorry, I don't think I heard you correctly. Did yall say HOGS?? oh boy...
Any farmer knows to stay away from hogs...carnivores....400000 sows at Seaboard Hog plant.....near Four Corners where bloody car found
Hogs also will not eat teeth of humans but everything else.
Really?
@@scottdaley1672 a person who raises hogs told me.
Love Dave Walker from the TV show, First 48, Tulsa PD. 🥰
Tulsa is VERY different from the Oklahoma panhandle! This detective is not an expert of the Oklahoma panhandle. Tulsa and the panhandle are at least 300 miles apart with very different. terrain.
Sgt Walker is from The First 48 TV show!
Dear Lord!
They are dead........
Grizzly but true about hogs. Afraid that may actually be what’s happened to these women
Dumped car
I knew I recognized him from THE FIRST 48 HOURS
The best News channel to watch
For truth
Lets see grandma prob hired people to take the ladies or or own son this was a set up they set the mom up thinking it would be a happy occasion for her child birthday but more of a ambush
And a special lab at UCO COLLEGE ALSO
Seems likely there has been a ransom demand and so the authorities are keeping mum. Likely it has to do with the child custody situation.
Does anyone think it's possible that their car broke down and then they were kidnapped by someone driving by? They should look at any gas or random store cameras and look for anything.
Hope you are enjoying your retirement Sgt. Walker!
It's going to hurt their kids forever after I evil people like this this will hurt these kids forever
Yea the lack of wide spread attention........ I hope its not sex trafficking or worse
Do hogs eat bones?
Yup.
Yes
Hogs eat anything, but clothing will be undigested and found in excrement.
Yes absolutely 💯
@@MsAdventure531I read that they don't eat the teeth?
The media is usually brought in extensively to help with cold cases, and something tells me that this case hasn't gone cold...
Got names and photos.
I remember this detective from the first 48 hours show .. hope he is enjoying his retirement
I miss Dave on 48 hours! Happy retirement
Dave still looks like he needs more sleep.
Are there any finger prints on that cross that was made?
Why even bring in this idea of the hog farm come on don’t you think that family is dealing with enough damn