Mica Miller family: Video proves staged death, 'water just sits there' | Banfield
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- Authorities have been investigating the death of Mica Miller, a pastor’s wife in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, since late April. While authorities have maintained Mica Miller died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound, her family says the death "was all staged."
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First sign she did not commit suicide was her husband's "urgency" in wanting to cremate her so quickly after her demise. BIG red flag...
Lots of people get cremated after they die. She might have even had a will and that was her wishes. I understand it supports the killer husband narrative on social media but it doesn't necessarily mean anything.
@@littleangel4780they usually don’t allow it right away if the death is suspicious though.
@@kittycat8222who is this "they" you speak of?
I agree
@@SeekingGreetings prosecutor offices(judges), and coroners…
It’s pretty sad the family has to do their own CSI work because law enforcement is so incompetent.
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How are they incompetent. The family is DELUSIONAL. He may be creepy & a A hole but they did do their diligence. Sorry but they can’t fathom why she would commit suicide? 1. All cameras and timeline shows she was alone 2. She bought the gun 3. She called 911 shortly after leaving the gas station alone to tell them she was going to kill herself and where to find her body 3. A hiker finds her body 2 hours later while a bunch of officers are combing the forest to find her 4. She STOLE MONEY FROM THE CHURCH 5. Going thru a divorce 6. Was in a mental hospital.
I mean really? This is denial. Just bc the water isn’t flowing doesn’t mean it wasn’t then and doesn’t mean the impact of her shooting herself couldn’t have made motion for her to float.
This is news wasted tbh. There’s so many missing ppl but again, if ur a white couple- that’s all that matters even if all signs points to suicide
Seriously! But good on them for even noticing that and vocalizing it to the public.
They’re bought . Incompetent would be one thing. They’re corrupt
But did u vote to defund the police?
The fact he so quickly told his congregation that she had been mentally ill for some time and that it was self induced, speaks volumes and is a huge red flag.
Even IF that were true, any normal person would keep those details private to protect his wife.
I have no doubt this sicko will be charged at some point.
he's body language tells it all.
When JP first said induced that is a red flag 🚩 and it’s strange that JP don’t know the meaning of induced. Also that shows that this so call pastor don’t know what he preaching about, just running off at the mouth
Also, when he announced her passing to the congregation he didn't forget to tell them to keep giving. Didn't miss the chance to make use of the situation for money.
Yes.. the way he just matter-of-factly states her death was ultra weird.
100%
Does anyone else think that she got the gun for protection from him?
Yes! She even told her dad she was buying the pew pew for protection.
100%
My first thought
If she was planing to kill her self of course she was not going to tell her dad that now will she?
Right after she filed for protection and divorce, and she told her sister if she died it was hubby who pulled the trigger? And he stalked her and drove her around to "meet and greet" homeless men, but not in a Godly way at all.
And his dad also is a fake pastor and his only child is following in his footsteps with women? I'm thinking she needed protection and knew her husband well.
The pastor didn’t go viral for preaching the word of God, he went viral for talking about his wife who has passed on. That’s creepy
Pity seeking fir himself.
@@audreydaleski1067 you completely missed the point of the comment
How many preachers go viral for preaching?
@@raidernation9920Pastor Gino Jennings
@@SpicyPunkRockerOfficial - never heard of him
I pray her husband is investigated further! I don’t think she killed herself!
She killed herself 😂 wtf 😳 she told the dispatch she wanted to die and bought a gun …. What els do you need ?
@@Tomtaylor7337 if you can’t see deeper than that, you’re not worth having a conversation with
@@Tomtaylor7337 if you are so sure the husband is innocent then you should let your sister or daughter date him. Good luck with that.
@@Tomtaylor7337she sounds like she's about to order a cheeseburger with a side of fries. That's not a real call.
She did unalive herself and all these people happened to have forgot that she tried it before !!! She Spoke about it and explained the gun jammed. Now the family says it was a setup then why to the pawn shop etc etc ugh I feel terrible as this is a tragedy but she did kill herself and then called 911 wow the people who don’t see this. It doesn’t mean I don’t think her husband is a dirt bag because I do but darn! Facts are facts as bad as he treated her
The family struggling with the circumstances and still asking questions is a normal and natural response to a sudden loss like this. The husband immediately accepting suicide and announcing it so calmly and confidently the next day and wanting her body cremated so quickly is SO suspect. It’s not a normal grief response.
It's a normal cover your tail response.
This is absolutely what I believe. After watching JP speak at the morning service like that and hearing what kind of a person he is, I didn’t believe for one second that it was suicide. He did it. He is a vindictive, hateful, controlling person. May God give this poor family the strength to pursue the truth.
Why would some god allow a 'vindictive, hateful and controlling person' to preach in his name?
@@radiocontrolled9181, because God gives us ALL (no exceptions for so-called preachers) free will in life and, afterwards, judges us for what we did with that free will.
@@marieassaad-faltas1299free will the old fall back excuse when your omnipotent omnipresent god allows atrocities to occur and does absolutely NOTHING
@@nowirehangers2815exactly
Amen.❤❤❤❤
Shame on the coroner for allowing a cremation. How much did they get paid to look the other way in this?!
I think he got a taco bell gift certificate......
Never should have been allowed
That is super sketchy.
Creeps help creeps. He knew the "pastor" or got paid.
How on earth does the FBI and police allow it!!!
Thank you News Nation for all you doing for Mica!
They are milking a story to an audience of fools.
LMAO! They're doing it for ad revenue.
😂 she offed herself and they blaming everyone but they bad parenting. we know her type she married friends didn't she her a previous husband? yall act like she wasn't hurt from the past marriage
@@righteousone1 If you believe the sky has flying pigs in it, then you would believe her count dracula husband was innocent. The guy is a 100% guilty man walking free with all his guilt erased and thrown away while the cops plan their summer vacations to Hawaii. Thank goodness for a little questioning by News Nation.
@@thatsjustjarrell She was married to JP's best friend, Jeremy, younger than JP. JP met her and started messing her over when she was 14 in his church youth group. He was twenty eight. JP admitted that he decided he wanted to marry her on the day that she and his best friend got married.
So much for him being an honest pastor. And his other friend, the lawyer who is an expert in AI, owns property that borders State Park and on the river where she was found.
Yes, true crime gets attention.
That dude aint no pastor!
I agree.. the devil even knows the Bible
He sure isn't. He didn't love either of his wives, he seems to use them and drive them away.
He is definitely a pastor. Narcissistic?☑️ Conman?☑️
@@roby3291 Genuine pastors... genuine men of the Lord, men following/obeying the Bible, do not act this way or do things like this.
Thank you! 💯
Narcissists always try to sabotage others by bad mouthing them behind their back. I say the husband needs to be looked at.
For sure!
He sounds like a Narcopath.
So you're a narcissist? You're trying to sabotage the pastor by bad mouthing behind his back.
@@WeWokeTheGiants "Pastor" did that himself while picking up waitresses while being married.
@@lukaszwinnicki6880 That's not narcissism. Do you even know what narcissism is?
That statement from the friend of Mica's says a great deal. If this guy got inappropriate with people that simply wanted to change churches, and went so far as to track down where they chose to attend, call that church and badmouth them, that screams control freak. The kind of control freak that stalks. The kind of control freak that murders. These psychopaths can't handle encountering anyone they cannot control and they are deadly dangerous to everyone around them.
The pastor / evil husband didnt want to give up even one dime in a divorce settlement.
Why would he or anyone?
Women are entitled to monies just because......
Mica and JP supposedly had a postnuptial agreement so JP wasn’t giving up much in the
divorce
Actually, Mica Lawyer has revealed - There was No Divorce Filing(or protective order) Mica filed another separation and support request.
Wow can Media distort FACTS.
She had not claimed any kind of Adultery or Abuse, etc, in the filing.
Basically, if Both parties remain apart for 1yr. and amicable annulment is granted.
This looks to be the 3rd such filing by Mica or JP in 6 months.
I'd personally like to see JP fully discredited and permanently removed from the church......Unfortunately He owns it. Best we can hope for is the membership wakes up and leaves for good.
@@anthonypuzyn3403 When you’re married, the money belongs to both parties
Sounds about wyte.
That must be an absolute nightmare as a father. I hope they charge that SOB.
I'm so glad you guys are keeping this story going this was not a suicide
Sadly, it was. She bought the gun. She made the 911 call. She self deleted.
@@Defundthemasons Zero proof of this.
@@Defundthemasons listen to the 911 call.
@@hoofhearted1833 Zero proof she was trying to escape him and he was stalking her? In America folks buy guns it's not a surprising thing. Listen to the evidence and watch for yourself. Just connect dots. 1+1=2.
I don’t honestly believe she shot her self. With all her ex was doing. He is trying to cover up his tracks I think it was a murder for hirer situation. He was out of town to hopefully help him get away with it. NO BODY cremates someone that quickly. He is covering up something. She could’ve been held at gun point and told what to say, her body was found 140 ft away in still water, she told her family if I am found dead Jp did it. She has no history of mental health at all. The way her ex is acting and how he treated her. He needs to be investigated thoroughly!! It’s heartbreaking!! 💔 Justice for Micha!!
I recognize the pattern of abuse, as it is very similar to my SIL who died by suicide five years ago. Her husband controlled everything, isolated her from family, and was psychologically abusive. She died the day before she was supposed to move out. There were so many holes in his multiple stories. Over time, he produced more than one suicide note, one of which stated that he had threatened to keep the daughter they had together from her if she left. He said she was crazy and suicidal, but never sought help for her. In fact, he admitted on the police statement that he recently bought her the gun she used. He collected $500K in life insurance, took the kids and moved to Florida. Sheriff in AZ wouldn't even look at her case because the department was full of this guy's ex-army buddies. We believe he convinced her that she was worth more dead to her kids than alive. Just like Mica, she may have pulled the trigger, but her husband pushed her to the brink and should be held responsible.
So sad! 😭💔 Her children are traumatized for life for sure. 😞 It should not be legal to do this. There are also drugs that can make people do crazy things... There is one Criminal minds episode where the serial killer makes people hurt themselves by giving this drug and Google tells this drug really exists. 😱
I'm sorry for your loss. I hope his karma comes around for him after the kids are grown and able to take care of themselves. One or more of the ex buddies might realize he got lied to and manipulated, and hoodwinked. I pray so.
He abused her.
He TERRORIZED her.
@@jts3505 This!!
She was dressed to go to work. She has a sandwich in a baggie on the passenger seat. She filled her gas tank.
Doesn't make sense to do these things if you're going to end it all.
She had bruises and scratches on her hands and wrists that aren't seen in the pawn shop cctv.
The one Pic I saw of her hand, was bruised all around the lower thumb upper wrist area. A big bruise. Would have seen that in the pawn shop.
Something happened other than her harming herself.
Who cares about being frugal with cash when you're gonna be gone ?
Some people automatically fill the tank when they need to get gas. Those bills are not redeemable on the other side you know.
I completely agree. Her ex needs to be thoroughly checked out!!!
911?!?
@@anthonypuzyn3403that's not what the person is pointing out. Don't be so simple...statistically speaking, people who will commit suicide wouldn't bother with those things because of their state of mind. If she planned to commit suicide, you don't get dressed for work and make yourself a sandwich for lunch at work...etc. Its a profiling thing.
Sometimes people do strange things. I saw a suicide where a young Marine corporal hanged himself in the barracks at the start of a 4 day weekend. He had a fresh haircut, just picked up his uniforms from the cleaners, and there was a bag from the exchange with a fresh unopened pack of cigarettes laying on the bed. HOWEVER - there is a lot more wrong with the Mica Miller case than just her sandwich and full tank of gas.
God knows what happened. What's done in the dark will be revealed in the light. I pray the truth is confirmed soon.
Amen 🙏
Amen …I’m praying the HS EXPOSE the TRUTH.
Your god appears to be the problem in a lot of these cases.
@@henmaidstaleBad people use whatever they can to be in powerful positions. People have used atheism too. Whatever works. Our God has warned us repeatedly about these people.
Glory to God! As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 10:28 KJV
Abusers like this will intentionally triangulate around their victims to cut off their exits... not because they victim is finally getting away, but because they don't want the truth spreading.
Yes, He wanted a clean slate and control of the narrative fr. He gets to say she was the ‘one tempted by the devil’ since she unalived herself and he gets to move on with the sad widow routine with whatever new mistress. Or even repeat the cycle and groom another young girl. He’s dangerous, those final days of her life were not normal, those emails…
His statement doesn’t use any words of love towards her. He doesn’t even use the word wife, he uses her full name.
&?
@@anthonypuzyn3403 DIVORCED LOL
The husband was a typical narcissist. 3/4ths of murder involve a narcissist. I'm sure it's higher. His lawyer LIVED on that river where her body was found, the same lawyer who wrote up documents for her husband to have legal rights over her mental health, a power of attorney - WITH OUT HER KNOWING IT. Her husband did the typical thing and scheduled to be out of town with his girlfriend that day she was killed. How many times have we seen that at a spouses death. Such an evil evil man. He's gross abomination and there are sadly many of them who have crept into the church because they can easily take advantage of good people there. Justice for Mica. People are exposing the factual details of his past behaviors, and they are absolutely psychopathic.
She was an abused woman, who did NOT get the help she desperately needed.
Her family should have stepped in and kept her safe.
@@doloresleyva8810 her dad tried. He received a voice mail, trying to reach her instantly, she not answering her phone, did you even listen to the report? He father TOLD the judge if you let him out he will kill her
It does not make sense if the gun wasn't found in the water with her.
Right ✅️ , the gun at ? Poor Ms Mica Miller !
@@Fat12219 , the gun drops from the suicidant's hand once the fatal shot is fired.
It was
@@raidernation9920All the way up stream from her body. It's murder. Reason - 5.9 million dollars and divorce papers.
There is no common sense among you. That's why you can't make sense.
The guy following her into the pawn shop also, to me, shows this was premeditated. Mica didn't do this to herself!
Which guy?
@MoneyStrategiesSOULutions there's security footage of Mica going into a store and some guy watching her she keeps looking over her shoulder. Same guy on video in black truck that keeps following her that day. She was being stalked.
@@hughsviews2932why would a stalker follow a woman into a pawn shop knowing he's on camera and what does that have to do with the fact that she bought the gun of her own free will? Did he force her to buy the gun? Or, is it more likely that she was just nervous and someone else just happened to be at the same pawn shop at the same time? Gee, .multiple people in a store at once? Tell me it's not true.
@@jado4149 Your comment summarizes to all of us that you did NOT watch the video in its entirety. and if she was followed, its possible it was a PI, a friend, the guy himself.. who knows. & I doubt he knew he'd be on camera, or thought it would be connected if he did. Use your own noggin..
I'm glad the FBI took the case on.
@@jado4149yes he told her to get the 🔫. And he told her exactly what to do or he hired someone who would. Either way he’s at fault.
When Mica's friend at the end of the video said JP tried to sabotage her and her family when they began attending a different church....this alone speaks VOLUMES about this "pastor". 🚩🚩🚩 He will do anything and go to any lengths to get what he wants.
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He thinks he owns people like they're his property: a slaveowner?
Sick.
When I said that she didn’t take her own life, people called me crazy. That 911 call was a red flag for me and right away it didn’t make sense.
Yes. I wonder how many other women have been treated this way.
Not when AI makes it so easy to fake now.
I really appreciate the sister and the father being able to speak so clearly and articulate their thoughts; when you have that much feeling as well it could be hard to stay calm and clear so others can appreciate and understand what you're saying. I'm with you.
JP is definitely behind this. Thanks to all that continue to uncover this story
Did you hear her 911 call? If not, give it a listen.
@@AriSMama we all heard it. He tortured this young lady with control and manipulation. As well as his first wife. If u read, I Said he is behind this.
He has a lawyer friend who is an AI expert, and who also happens to own a large city of land right next to that same state park. A couple different channels on YT have made AI audio that sounds just like the person in whatever audio they are drawing from. One gal made one in thirty seconds from her own video, just typed a couple sentences into the AI app. Hers sounded kind of dead like the 911 call.
Yea def the mans fault she called 911 and said she was going to off herself... yea. lets blame the man
@TeeBreaksDown you think he forced a gun to her head to say that she was going to kill herself (in a very calming tone mind you)?
everything about this feels odd.
Very
...just like kiely rodni? Turned out to be a horrible accident and nothing nefarious regardless of how the surrounding circumstances appeared.
@@annarchy665, who's kiely rodni?
@@annarchy665I'm still pissed off about that case. She was murdered.
@@jimmyv8803 who do you think did it and why?
There is silver lining in her death- for all the women who experienced this kind of psychological abuse from their partners. She is shedding light and giving such a huge amount of attention to how hard it is to get free from it.
I think we've had enough light shed over the last few centuries. It's time to protect women.
When family members can’t except a family member had a mental illness.
I dont think this family understands how water works...
Didnt the fisherman hear the gunshot also ? From the time of the gun shot was heard to the short time she was found , her body moved that far down that mucky water??🤔
Exactly
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You made no point......
It's possible, but not in water that's not moving. 🤔
Ironically, the fact that the body wasn’t found right next to the belongings tells me it couldn’t have been staged. Or are the RUclips crime investigators actually thinking the killer shot the woman, then moved her body…to make it look like suicide? Lol. If someone was “staging” this, the body would be next to her stuff. But hey, at least the conspiracy theorists are entertaining.
My theory is she wanted to buy a gun because there was an intense threat from his husband and she wanted to protect herself. And then she was followed after the purchase of gun…probably the 911 call was manipulated by someone at gunpoint because she was threatened that no one will ever find your body if you do not call 911. It was staged.
I think exactly the same!
She was threatened at gunpoint to call 911.
Definitely.
She didn't seem afraid of him in that video where she's recording him.
@@MichelleMerrittGracelynnMaybe it wasn't just him who confronted her that day.
Sorry but that’s ridiculous. No one would tell that to 911 if they were being held at gunpoint. You could literally scream anything in a matter of seconds and it would be recorded. I can’t imagine her husband taking a risk like that.
@@missblackwoodwhat if JP told her that he’d also kill her family if she didn’t do what he said?
It is rare for someone to call in to dispatch to explain their own planned suicide in detail. Yes, her husband is a piece of work, but all the signs point towards her taking her own life.
How does everyone keep ignoring her 911 call?
That's what I was wondering? I mean the whole situation is sad regardless. I do think the husband contributed to the situation but she definitely took her life. The 911 call is pretty straightforward.
It could have been an AI program calling for "Mica." All that would be needed would be recordings of her voice. AI can hold conversations, answer questions and etc.
@@loralieisano
So... video of her buying a gun and then 911 audio of her telling her suicide plan? Case closed?
Can y’all contact a highly trained diver team or a water engineer expert who can go to that river and test the waters flow and under water flow. They can get a detailed representation of exactly how the water was flowing that day. Narked Divers would be willing to do this for the family.
There also should of been obvious other footprints there.
God himself could show them video proof of her turning her lights out and you people would still blame a man..
@@AerialEscapedo u kno anything about the man in question?
This is so obvious that Ray Charles could have seen it. All I can do is pray that jp gets EXACTLY what he deserves whether in this life or the next, the wicked things he did and the evil things he made her do, he should be ashamed yet he is not, narcissist and sociopaths don't have empathy. She did everything according to the remedy of the law, yet he still harassed her after restraining order and divorce papers were filed, we need 1 or 2 people with key info to flip.
Ray Charles sees better than you!
Sad that people who hide in religion can be the worst people you ever meet…… who does this sort of thing. Even the friends who left the church to find a new place to attend and worship were affected by this guy. Unbelievable.
I recently read that the professions with the most psychopaths are CEO, surgeons and you guessed it.... clergy.
that is the mark of a PSYCHOPATH !!!!
It seems staged to me as well. Money in her back pack? I would think if she wanted to make sure those things were found, she would leave them in her vehicle. He wanted to meet with her, to get the divorce out of the way. She looked tired. Only time will tell if this jerk kept her up all night harassing her. He can’t hide anymore.
One things that’s been confirmed is that the husband was at one of his kids sporting event at the time of her death which was in another state.
She had to borrow money from her friends to pay bills....she wouldn't have 500 dollars
Almost everything is suspicious to the tinfoil hat crowd. Amusing you are just asserting what she wouldn't do, how would you know, you aren't Mica? When she obviously did do those things, like have $500 with her, which isn't abnormal. Money doesn't buy you anything when you die.
Alright - but he could have hired a killer @@KayRandle-rz5dt
No video or surveillance that JP was at the event. Also, JPs dad blew his alibi. He doesn’t have a strong enough alibi, period.
I have never seen a woman eager to walk through mud to get to any location. Odd.
Agreed.
Her husband is all red flags. She may have taken her own life but it was him that drove her to do it. I hope the kids get placed with someone else. Let’s not forget about them and pray for those poor little hearts that are broken right now.
Parents in denial of their daughter's suicide.
If they accept it, that means they didn't notice her depression. Therefore, they feel they are partially to blame.
Sadly I think these news stations reporting on their suspicions only makes things worse for the denial and grief process. Was he abusive? Yes. Did she kill herself? Yes (all in my opinion of course). I'm sure no family member wants to admit that it all happened in "plain sight" (it didn't, but it's normal they feel that way).
@@merrynothing3204this is exactly what i think. this conspiracy theories that i'm seeing is so delusional n in denial.
She bought the weapon for protection. She had filed for a protective order from him and for divorce. She then bought protection. The 911 call is AI.
That all being said this Pastor is a total lunatic. He needs to be investigated. I guy like that cannot be in a position where he is responsible for the well being of for instance children
@@merrynothing3204 He did do some of it in plain sight. The video of his meltdown in the grass, him preaching in church in a state of arousal or with a sock on the front of his pants.
And when a pastor's wife acts out or is mentally ill the way he publicly said she was, it is a reflection of who and what that pastor is. His plans to ruin her have backfired horribly because he did souch on plain sight.
Even people who think she did it herself think he hounded her into it. He even forced testosterone on her, his drug dealer got arrested.
That 911 call sounded like a deep fake.
Yeah something is up with the body placement. That water isn’t moving.
Twice I've made a comment about releasing the body camera footage and twice it's been deleted. 🤔
What body footage coverage ?@@Coloradodogmama
@@Justme77888 Maybe when the police found her body possibly?
It was a long way from the pistol as well
It's is a river water moves
Why are these people in denial. She called 911 and told them
Yea. I can’t be so sure but I will say that there’s a lot to be questioned.
Because people like Ashley Banfield and people on the internet are keeping the conspiracy theories rampant. It wasn't a murder she unfortunately did this to herself. Just because they don't want to believe the facts doesn't mean that their conspiracies is true. It's sad all around but none of this is helping Mica or their family.
They know the cat box crew will buy anything as they sit in front of talk tv all day long.
No family wants to admit that their loved one has committed suicide. Her 911 call is a tell tale that she was determined to take her own life.
On top of all the other evidence. Even her family and "friends" have admitted that she was medicated. All they're proving is that the whole group is divorced from reality. Their stubbornly delusional behavior makes it all the more believable that she did it herself.
There is video of Mica's apartment complex parking lot and video from the pawn shop of what looks like the exact same car. This is a white 4 door, tinted windows, a spoiler on the back, black top (could be glass) This portion of the top of the car(black) has white underneath that meets the tented windows. Side mirrors are white as well. This is NOT the white car shown in the video from the convenient store. Someone needs to look into who drives this vehicle. These videos are on Grizzly True Crime. This is not a coincidence IMO.
The police have already determined he was nowhere near the area. Everyone looks towards the husband, because he’s clearly a dangerously insane person, but she has severe mental health issues as well. This is a horribly tragic situation, and it’s overall bizarreness leaves everyone wondering if there more to the story, but most signs point to her acting out the final moments alone.
This pastor's behavior is SO suspect.
Why in the world is she calling him “pastor?” He is no pastor. He is one evil person.
This is a family that unfortunately doesn't want to believe the unthinkable.
There is a video online of mica in Africa explaining how she once tried to take her own life and the gun jammed. Mica cleared the round to make sure the weapon did not jam again as she remembered what happened the first time. This is my opinion and it makes sense. And stagnant water still has a current. It's slow moving and explains why her body only floated 20ish yards away from the firing site. Every piece of evidence from her last day points to her doing this. When someone dies, people grieve and look for someone or something to blame. Her husband is that person they want to blame. It's makes it easier because he doesn't seem to be a very good person. Every high profile case doesn't involve a conspiracy. But that's what our world is turning into. Kiley rodnie, Brian Landry, the Idaho 4, the Kansas city 4 , mica miller and the list goes on. The coroner ruled her death a suicide for a reason. I hope her family finds peace, I just don't understand how they can deny that she wouldn't do something like this. . She self admittedly tried to do this before. The facebook post, what she was listening to that was caught on ring camera, she bought a gun, she called 911 and told them where they could find her body., and whatever other evidence law enforcement found.
Exactly. Not only does the family not want to accept it but also a whole bunch of people who just want what they already imagined to be the truth. When I heard her 911 I knew had arrived at the station where there’s no return
It’s the family and the content creators making money off Mica’s death. That’s the sicken part to me.
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☝️KayRandle
Joined 15 May 2024
The devil, the Pasta and the accountant comes in many guises 😁
God bless you all 🙏♥️🇦🇺
@@KayRandle-rz5dt 💯
Yea, Its really hard to believe you loved one killed themselves. Reality is hard to grasp when it comes to a painful loss.
Sad but true. They’re really reaching.
Telling me it's a suicide but the facts state other. I'll believe the facts every time.
If her sister tracked her phone, which she did. Then there was no need for Mica to call 911 to say I want my family to find me.
5.9 million in church assests and a threat from her to bring an investigation after they blew through multiple accountants and serving him divorce papers is definitely a motivation for her to be murdered.
Forcing her family to sign the cremation authorization is another red flag.
Some people believe what they're told, others ask questions.
If it was deep enough for her to float in it doesn't matter if the water is moving, a slight breeze is enough to cause something to drift around.
Why would her parents let her get married 😕 so young with older man? 👴
Twigs and murk,would decrease movement. How can a heavy ,dead body float in stagnant water are you people even thinking?
@@sueann1985maybe they just don't know fresh dead bodies sink.
It's amusing how people suddenly become forensic scientists with knowledge of dead body movement in water.
@@Fat12219When they married Mica was an adult so don't blame the parents for her decision. They have a detailed letter on how JP encouraged her to run away and live with another family while Mica was unader age. As they fought back allegations of abuse were railed against they and authorities were sent to check out their children.
That is the person your dealing with in JP.
If someone really wants to kill themselves, why on earth would they phone 911? I’ve never heard of that before. Was she forced to make the call? I hope the FBI do a really good job of getting to the bottom of this case.
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They do it every day.
Some say the call was created with AI
@@Jjangbunbun Anything that fits a conspiracy theory without any evidence works, eh?
Listen to the 911 call, she clearly says why she was calling. To make sure they had her location to find her body.
I agree! My gut instinct told me that he is guilty
Me too 😢
@@mross8792 I never asked to be.
And there are plenty of guilty people who get off scott free because of jurors who lie just to manipulate the other jurors… so I would rather be who I am, be honest upfront and be passed over…
@@kathymclaughlin5294And there are innocent people serving life for something they never did because of hearsay
@@MichelleMerrittGracelynn agreed… but I stand by what I said. It is not hearsay. It is my opinion. My gut instinct tells me that the husband is not innocent. He is in involved in someway or another.
Sometimes jurors don't care and they just want to get back to work where the real money is, just saying.
Wow, you would walk through all that debris to shot yourself? Sounds fishy to me. Justice for Mica!
Didn't the coroner say it was a self inflicted gun shot wound and a suicide???
I believe he staged it to look like a suicide He killed that poor woman and he won’t be prosecuted
So he had someone drive his truck at identical same time in a different state as he what hid somewhere? His alibi is concrete get the eff over it she had mental issues and did this to herself. All these god lovers are nuts anyway
I believe you made that up just like these others have made up so many wacky stories to make themselves happy.....
beliefs are not facts
@@metalbeast83 thsts true but statistics show it’s usually the husband or ex husband or boyfriend
@@anthonypuzyn3403 Msybe not maybe your Nairve
If people understood how suicide works, they would probably think otherwise. She clearly killed herself. I have seen first hand the denial families go thru to blame anything but suicide when it is so clear their loved ones took thier own life. Her husband is still a creep that may have lead her to her demise, but she clearly killed herself.
You can’t prove that. It’s too easy for these psychos to set up the narrative for this.
In the first place why would she go to an area that she was not familiar with, get out of her vehicle with all her belongings, walk to the water to unalive herself? It makes no sense at all - I know how suicide works because I've been there myself 😢
@@marleneclarke5785 she searched it up on her phone "national park near me" so really it was her who did. i really hate conspiracy theories.
I believe the real truth will come out ‼️
She filed for a protective order and divorce. Neither of those had enough time to clear the courts. She wanted protection so she bought a gun.
When the courts cant provide justice......
I agree with her family. How Mica's purse, phone and more importantly the gun were that far away from her body without a water current makes absolutely no sense. Remember the bruises that were on her body, one with what looked like a handprint. The bruise on her hand did not show on her ring camera footage that morning.
The video the family has was taking days after her death. We don’t know how the water current was flowing the day of death.
Also the family is releasing all type of personal intimate details about Mica and JP marriage. Why haven’t they released the photos showing the bruises on her hands and arms?
@@KayRandle-rz5dt It's a boggy area and the current most likely doesn't change much day to day as there's not really a current there to begin with. It was reported that the water level was lower that day which would inhibit her moving even more. If in fact her parents did take pics, they may be withholding them from the public for a future wrongful death civil suit. But your guess is as good as mine.
Don’t withhold actual proof from the public. When you’re on the new stations talking about sexual acts between Mica, JP and a 3rd party which they have no actual proof of. To me that’s seem like the family just wants to Slander the husband’s name due to their daughter is deceased. The family can’t accepted the fact she took her own life.
a river it has a current
@@KayRandle-rz5dt probably because it’s really weird to post pictures of your daughters dead body online. They are talking about the other things because they need to get an investigation going.
I get it, they need someone to blame. There’s video of her purchasing the gun plus the audio recording to 911.
There's a husband with a known history of tracking her car and hiring people to follow her. She told her Dad she was buying a gun for protection with a dicey guy meandering in the gun shop while she made her purchase.. "Mica's" call to 911 could be AI generated. JP's lawyer owned the land adjacent to the state park. He was also an AI expert.
Was that even her calling 911? I heard that some kind of way people can change voices with AI or something
Yeah so somebody used AI to do all that and the fisherman didn't hear anything but a woman crying and then a gunshot SMH sometimes it is what it is
AI
People on two different channels made AI recordings and it was sadly very easy. They just did it to show it could be done without much effort.
@ktbowersbellsouth No what is, is a church with 5.9 million in alleged assests and he was just served divorce papers.
Five accountants they blew through and a threat of an investigation. She didn't unalive herself.
How did her hand get that bruise? Not seen on the ring camera or gas station footage.
Was her name even mentioned on the the 911 call? Her sister had the capability to track her phone and would do so with all the stalking and harassment going on. So why would she call 911 to track her phone?
Why was there a live round found at the site?
He shared with his congregation it was "self-induced" which is a weird term before officials said anything.
Claimed he visited her four times in the morgue and tried to raise her from the dead. Cameras showed he visited once and was in a corner in the room.
@@ktbowersbellsouthSo the fisherman heard her crying and not the phone call? Little sus.
Justice for Mica! ⚖🙏
If not suicide how is her 911 phone call explained?
AI. Turns out it's not difficult to make fake audio if you have records of the person's voice. Very scary.
Two different channels here on RUclips have tried it, no problems.
I still say JP should take a lie detector test to see if he had anything to do with her passing.
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If she did the psychiatric drugs and testosterone might have effected her mental state. Sounds like she was going through a lot! Some of these antidepressants cause suicidal ideation. There are also withdrawal symptoms that might look like mental illness when skipping or going off of the medications. Unfortunately, usually when the patient tells their doctor about what they are experiencing they often blame it on whatever psychiatric disorder without any medical or chemical testing.
Yup, and then they get put on an anti-psychotic when they were just withdrawing from the medication, which can last months.
All these sleuths are on the same head meds. No wonder the insane & wacky detachment from reality in these theories with no evidence other than " feelings"
Family in denial. The girl literally confessed that she was about to kill herself on a live 911 call with the gun she had just purchased. Move on people...smh
She could have been forced to say that
@@DefiantAngel87 u watch too much TV dude.
such compassion.
She was on a 911 call. If she felt like she was about to be murdered because her husband, or someone else, was threatening her, there would be no reason to tell the 911 operator anything different. She was very calm and i think she just wanted to know that her family would find her and to give them some answers. Sadly, her plan didn't work.
Lured there by someone perhaps under the guise to sign papers at his lawyer’s house. Anything is possible.
You never meet privately with an opposing Attorney.
@@deniseganey6890 She could have been lured there under some guis e.g., to pick up a cashier's check.
What was up with the 911 call with her on there saying she was gonna kill herself
Coerced probably by him
Right, and she journaled everything else in her life but no suicide note? And she had point-blank told her sister if she "died" during her divorce, it wouldn't be suicide, it would be by JP's hand. JP's lawyer was proficient with AI; a lot of people are theorizing that her 911 call wasn't even her, it was AI. When I listened to it again after reading that, the theory seemed credible to me. Her phrasing seems stilted and "off." And that's what her Dad and sister say too, that it sounds like her voice, but it's not the way she speaks. They insist it wasn't her.
@@Beautyisme90 He made sure he was out of the area when the deed was done. The 911 call was AI and he hired someone to kill her. He had her body cremated to hide certain facts. She did have bruising that was not seen in previous videos of her on that day.
Literally breaks my heart... 💔💔💔
I don't understand if they were getting divorced how was he able to make decisions for her funeral
She had only just filed so it had not been processed. So he was still her next of kin, not the family.
Unpopular opinion. I think the girl did commit suicide. The family does not want to accept or believe that so they are reaching (far) for further "evidence" that she didnt commit suicide. Word of mouth saying someone was a really nice happy person isnt enough to negate that really nice happy people still commit suicide.. Still i feel sorrowful for her family.
Being happy abruptly after years of mental illness is a red flag FOR sueaslide
we don't know what happened. if her guilty but exonerated .. there's Judgement for everyone
Unpopular opinion? Almost every comment here agrees with you. You know what unpopular means, right?
She did not unalive herself.
@@kingti85all the comments i have seen say its some conspiracy and the husband had her killed 🤷♀️
I get what they are saying about the water, but the problem is that the weather conditions that day she died is unique and can never be recreated.
Even the fisherman, when he bought a Reporter out there just a day or 2 later, he made a comment that the water was several feet lower. For the levels to change that much and be far different in such a short amount of time indicates that it proabbaly changes all the time, very quickly, so who knows what the nehavior of the water was that day?
And the 911 call was very long and listening to her, I snesed there was no distress whatsoever. I would think it if was staged, then she wsn't alone, and I hear nothing in her voice to indicate any distress. I can see if the call was very fast and she spoke fast and that was it. But it was a lengthy call and her voice was eerily calm.
Lastly, she's giving her location, and the authorities got there I think fairly quickly, and it woukd be impossible for if she wasn't alone, that that person would be able to leave without being found out later. And I am sure the pulled all avaialble cameras from the area.
I dunno...
I agree but the Internet seems to think the sheriff department is corrupt with this investigation.
The sheriff department not one time has back tracked on the cause of death of Suicide even with all the media Attention.
Exactly. Reading some of these comments are, quite honestly, scary. The stuff people come up with... unreal.
@@mmhthreethey got away by boat, why do you think they chise a river location.
@@mmhthree AI is quite advanced and can hold a dialogue with a 911 operator in any person's voice.
The pastor owns that town
The truest statement yet to date.
How?
I'm confused by your statement. Which town? The one in South Carolina where the pastor preached and lived? Or the town in NC where Mica went to escape him and where she ended up dead?
@@danielkaczmarski5688Money. Chief Police is married to his Head of Security at the church.
@@kbc1883Likely the one he preached and lives in. The Police Chief is married to the man who is Head of Security at JP's church.
I have to ask. Can’t the wind move a body floating in water?
this still doesn't explain why she called police and then proceeded to tell them what she was going to do and why she was by herself buying the gun hours before.
Because she was done with her life. So she ended it .
Wait...the man heard her weeping. And he heard one shot. Is no one remembering his account of it?
People don’t want to hear anything that doesn’t prove the scandalous narrative they saw on Facebook.
Who is this man?
@antmck99 I forgot his name but the fisherman who came foward. I watched his interview last week and he heard crying and found her belongings.
Other people in the area heard 2 gunshots (according to FB comments from them) but the police never interviewed them. But yes, that is what the fisherman said. To me, it's weird that he picked up her belongings knowing they could be part of a crime scene.
@@TheEnigmaticmuseand we all know Facebook is absolute reliable gospel that is never to be contradicted.
Why are comments being deleted?
That's a VERY COMMON thing on RUclips. Are you just now noticing? They like to censor what is said when it goes against the supported narrative. Usually it's more with political videos, but they do it on everything really.
They're not really deleted. RUclips shows Top comments. I figured it out by going to the top and click on "sort by" then choose newest. You'll have to scroll a bit to find yours.
@ItsYourDadWhoWeepsbooooooo!!! 👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼
@ItsYourDadWhoWeeps i guess you do?
@ItsYourDadWhoWeepscensoring is what weak or corrupt people do.
So many people knew she was in trouble, but didn't help. So sad.
I feel the same way.
Exactly
Why use the term induced? Like if someone induces you to do something not inflicted??
@guadalupesalgado5604
Because the beauty and simplicity of meaningful English language usage has been butchered by new age bullshit.
English has officially been "unalived". 🤣
@@deilight7773 lol the reason people say unalived is because social media platforms are sensitive to words like m*rder so people say that as an alternative so their videos do not get flagged
Induced.. falls somewhere between influenced and compelled.
Why would she kill herself in that swamp? Especially if she wanted to be found like her 911 call said??
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Because she was the swamp thing
Something that amazes me is, for anyone who lives in rural southeastern NC, and I am sure southeastern SC too, would know that swampy areas where she died, is full of alligators, water moccasins and other vermin. It’s nothing to see a 6 to 8 ft alligator climbing river banks, or crossing roads. Another thing, the mosquitos would tote you away and eat you alive. A suicide planning person wants to have control of the situation, and not meet up with a non-negotiating water moccasin before reaching the desired goal. .Moccasins are cantankerous, very fast, and they mean business. Usually, most women and many men don’t want to meet up with such surprises. Therefore, I see this case as being highly suspicious, and should be heavily investigated. Lots of other people should be investigated too.; right along with the church and JP. Clean up Myrtle Beach 4:49 😊by getting rid of this nonsense.
@@bekkihunt2839yes!
@@bekkihunt2839we call it “dirty Myrtle” for a reason.
Just cuz her husband was a piece of shit doesn’t mean he killed her. They tracked phones. She bought the gun alone. Told 911 what she was doing. This family just can’t accept it
Family members in denial.
They are emotionally broken and out for revenge . There is so much going on in this young woman's life they are in pain over .I do feel that the somewhat tawdry details Dad is sharing do not seem appropriate More information will come out as time goes on but Mica dud thus to herself Sadly. It's sad she was alone .
They can't accept it
Thats what I'm saying
I can't accept it either & idek them. Something is clearly off
they can't accept it bacause she warned them about that. she said if they were to find her with a bullet in her head, it wasn't her, it was JP.
I've had suicide in my family and, sadly, this is true. Looking for something, anything that would make this a different outcome. Grieving a suicide is very different from other deaths because people feel they can't let go because their questions can only be answered by the person that's gone. Making a different scenario to make it make sense. But suicide isn't logical and antithetical to human nature. Makes the sting of death that much harder.
@@littleangel4780 Yes, it is passing on their pain to others that they are now free from.
Mica’s family has been on every news station that would allow them to speak.
The sheriff department is not backing down on the cause of death which is suicide. The FBI is not Investigating Mica death!
“On Wednesday, Damien McLean with the Robeson County Sheriff's Office told PEOPLE that the FBI's field office in Columbia, S.C., is conducting a “parallel investigation” in connection with the case, but is not investigating Mica’s death”
Why didn’t the family do more to help Mica when she was alive????
If JP was “ Allegedly” making Mica Perform sex act that she did not want to perform on other individual that’s called “rape”
Mica family should have encouraged her at that time to file a police report for rape.
Mica was a victim of abuse, and groomed, half of what occurred to her she would've hid in shame from her family considering she was a devout religious woman. She documented her abuse, it happened, and she reported her being stalked to the police and police did nothing...why would she report r*pe when she was ignored to begin with? It is not a black and white matter when a woman is heavily abused for years and groomed since childhood. The family did what they could but Mica was the one who had to leave.
They did try to help! Have you ever been in a domestic abuse situation or even tried to learn about them!? The perpetrator does everything in their power to prevent others from interfering and manipulates the victim into thinking there is no way out. They did the best they could in the situation. When mica wanted to leave they were there offering assistance even when JP texted threatening to show up at her sisters house with a gun until she came home to him. Perhaps actually look more into the story before just making a comment on something you haven’t even researched.
I been following the story since day one. The text message with JP Threatening to show up to the sister house was back in 2022, not recent.
Again I stand by my statement that the family could have done more to help when she was alive.
@@KayRandle-rz5dtIt all goes back to 2008 when the family joined the church . Mica dud make life choices tgat gatned her famiky abd lived ones absolutely, eventually there was alienation after years of trauma . It's not a church in my humble l e opinion .
Mica was married before JP so some stuff that’s being stated is just incorrect and wrong!
Looking for logic is impossible in suicide. This story is very heartbreaking.
Not moving on the day they went there. With that being said, how does murder make more sense? She obviously died where the gun was found, are they claiming whoever supposedly murdered her then pulled her to her final location? That makes no sense at all. Why would someone do that instead of just booking it after the supposed murder? There's not a shred of evidence of murder in this case.
Bullets were found on land, gun tossed in right there and body down the river the opposite way of current. Someone had to of carried her there. And how would she end up in water when the rounds were on land
@user-dj6qh3nw9g but the question is...why in the word would a murderer move her? It only makes the death look more suspicious so it makes no sense to move her
The sheriff department did not leave any bullets at a crime scene. Did the bullets found match the gun Mica bought that day?
No criminal is going to carry a dead body to place it in the water!!! Do you know how much DNA, clothes and hair fiber would have been on the deceased from the other person.
@@KayRandle-rz5dtI agree. And moving a dead body. Wouldn't there be like a trail of blood? I'm assuming she would be bleeding out.
@@SheilaUhlenbrauck She took bullets out the box that was left in her car, probably 2 or 3, and loaded the gun around where she was at. She put one bullet in pistol and left an extra one laying out in case she needed it. Easy explanation. I can tell she only put one bullet in the gun because it was out of rounds when they found it. The father keeps saying multiple shell casings but he hasn't demonstrated that. Fisherman heard one shot.
From everything I have seen, I do not believe this young woman killed herself. She had everything to live for. She was getting her life together, she was eager to begin a mission in Kenya, she was finally getting free of that awful marriage. No way was she going to just quit her life.
You are spot on.
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Leaving a relationship is dangerous for the departing spouse. Mica told her father she was going to buy a gun for protection. A PI may have bugged her phone. The next step would be to wait for her to buy the gun then set up a suicide with a prerecorded AI "Mica" voice. My Ex I found was bugging our phone for years. It's not that difficult albeit illegal.
She signed a healthcare power of attorney to her husband , that’s why he was about to get her committed , you Should never sign a power of attorney healthcare or financial to anyone , u can’t trust nobady.
Healthcare POA for medical reasons Mental Health POA for mental health. 2 different legal forms
WHY WOULD SHE BUY A GUN AND TELL DISPATCH HER PLAN, MAKES NO SENSE
I believe the FBI will find out the truth. They have resources local law enforcement does not. Hold on people, justice will come, it's just a matter of time.
RIP Mica ❤
Is the FBI investigating now?
The family just can’t accept what she did. Did the husband force her to buy a gun on camera and then call 911 saying she was going to kill herself?
This is ridiculous denial.
According to her family he did. But I do 100% agree with your comment.
How do we know what’s off camera
@@deekang6244 exactly. That is why we don’t accuse the husband with no evidence.
It's like when I was a child and my parents blamed my bad decisions on hanging out with the wrong crowd when in reality I WAS the wrong crowd.