I am a Christian. These types of men are common in churches. I don't go to churches except in rare cases. I stay to myself and read the Bible and pray in solitude. I can't be around many people these days but I don't let that stop me from being a believer.
I don't go to church either anymore but I am a Christian, a child of God. I watch channels on RUclips that are Christian. I like to hear Voddie Bauchman. I watch a channel called Enter The Starz. I like to fellowship in the live chat every morning. He decodes movies that the evil elite who make movies that tell us what they are up to.
My Dad was a pastor and he used to beat us almost every day until my mom took us away from him no one knew in the church it was so hard growing up keeping it a secret. When I got into my teens I became atheist due to it. But than the Lord showed me who he was . To not look at man but look at him. I'm so glad these pastors get exposed
I married a youth pastor. He was the most evil person I ever met in my life. Thanks God He exposed him, and I can call myself a survivor of his torture.
I always find it very interesting, how some people have a gut instinct that something is 'off' about a person and feel the need to be cautious, while others can think that same person is completely wonderful and trust them completely.
They probably had the gut instinct too, but they just didn’t know how to recognize it. They kept dismissing it as something else Example: “Oh I’m on my period” “Oh I’m being paranoid” “Oh God wants me to forgive/love/trust/be kind & gracious towards others”
I have a different opinion. The cop did a lousy job. How could he miss interrogating the gun shooting team in the very first place and find out that the bullet was taken out after the gun misfired? The life of the second wife and the kids would not be destroyed. ALSO, JUSTICE WOULD HAVE BEEN PREVAILED MUCH EARLIER. My personal opinion anyways.
@@dasak12345 He could have prosecuted the case by just having those witnesses who can testify about why the gun being loaded when it's shud be cleared.
When I was a kid, my pastor would come over to our house. I knew he wanted my mom because every time we would have a foot washing ceremony at our church, he always wanted my mom to do it. Every time, he came over all of us kids would sit in the room with them. He stopped coming by after he figured out that we knew what he was trying to do. He was married with 5 or 6 kids.
As a pastor’s kid, those foot washing ceremonies give me the creeps. Ain’t no way I’m washing someone’s feet, even if Jesus himself told me to do it. I’ve also had decades of deconstruction to undo a lot of what I experienced & “learned” as a kid. Organized religion can be wild!
It’s hard to leave after you’ve had children with these men. They also usually wait until you’ve had children to start acting out. I speak from experience
It just go's show how evil that people can be that you would never believe they could be that evil beware of people that say their ministers of the gospel
He's "the preacher"! He tells other people what to think and believe - the nerve, trying to question his "integrity." It would be funny if not so awful.
Speaking as an Orthodox Christian ☦️, and as a former protestant associated with many non-denominational churches for many years, this allowing people to take positions of leadership so quickly and easily is a HUGE problem.
Are you serious? Sociopaths and narcissist people are everywhere; especially people who live a double life. The Internet and dating apps., social media make this so easy to do.
A sad cautionary tale about how badly an abusive relationship can end. I hope those, especially Christians who encourage women to 'endure and pray' realise how easily they can get blood on their hands. Anyone can be gifted. The real thing is to look at their character. That detective was ace! Glad justice was served. This is also a good lesson in the value of discernment. The church board should never have hired him without a complete background check. The fact that he kept making excuses over missing information should have set alarm bells ringing.
Complete background check & polygraph must be done before hiring an aspirant pastor. The devil & his cohorts can quote Scriptures & can be a charismatic preacher. Good job D etective fir your perseverance & discernment.
What’s especially sad are republicans who constantly fight against any gun restrictions like ‘red flag laws’ that would help to stop killings like this. Republicans want guns in the hands of people in the middle of domestic abuse cases. They don’t care that countless people are murdered because of their sick attachments to guns.
He *was* a Christian though. The truth is that being a Christian doesn't make someone any less likely to be a cold-hearted murderer than a non-Christian.
@@renejean2523 he was not a true Christian but a fake convert and somebody who lied to himself and others.When the Bibel talks bout saved thru faith it means true faith „Not everybody who says to me Lord, Lord….“yes it happens that a true Christian sins but you dont live constantly in sin. You repent and Go on not doing it anymore asking the Lord to guide you. I have no words for someone treating his wife like this and calling hilself a Christian man. Its a shame.
@@fluchfrei4486 - If he believes in the Christian god and Christ and all that, then he's a Christian. It's as simple as that. There are good people who are Christians, and there are bad people who are Christians. Same with Muslims, Jews, atheists and everyone else. "Sin" is a purely religious concept and has no bearing on the real world. What *you* as a Christian may consider a sin, I as an atheist do not. And don't forget the Bible and it's god are deeply immoral at times.
I wonder how the girls are today? Please God they will have good lives with genuine kind people with them always. God bless them and good the truth is out. May they reap all the blessings of the orphans and know their Heavenly father will never let them down 👏🏼❤️❤️
My grandpa was a preacher also. Married to my grandma until he died. That funeral was attended by people I'd never heard of, all spoke highly about him. As you said, a man true to his word, and godly man.
@@noteworthyinsignificance That happens quite frequently. Instead of leaving the church, they try to find excuses for what happens. Religion is an additction for many people. They simply cannot live without it.
I’m so very happy that brilliant prosecutor pursued the case and was able to get him to trial and found guilty! Excellent work, so happy justice was served!
The detective Scott deserves so much praise!!! If it wasn’t for all his hard work and dedication, Tim may have gotten away with it! The interview with Tim was amazing how Scott got Tim to drop his mask!
Came here just to see who else LOL’d at that! Totally agree! Especially when Det. Bartle follows that statement with the cowardly lion impersonation! 😅
Me too I luv Detectives that truly do their job to get the bad guy and when he got him riled up in that interview it gave a chilling description of what the "pastor" was really about...and what Karma he wasnt angry at himself he was angry at them for ruining his plans.
I saw a pastor start chasing the money rather than the truth. Scripture says the love of money is ROOT of all evil, so I told my son we will see the fruit of evil manifest. He was eventually found to be molesting his little adopted daughter. Eventually he agreed to never preach again to get a plea deal. Coveteousness is an American sin so prevalent that churches forsake warning about how deadly it is. In fact, they preach in a way that encourages coveteousness. Evil. Scripture says those who love the world and things of it do NOT have the love of Father God.
Being a pastor is not synonymous with: Being saved, godly, following the Holy Spirit's leading, God fearing, dying to your flesh, having integrity, character, moral compass and then some.
The problem isnt going to church. If theres a shooter at Walmart you don't stop shopping. The problem is the church not holding these men accountable and the fact that most of these men are made to be like celebrities is not how a church is to be.
Too many churches do this. Not only do I not believe in Christianity anymore but abuse is RAMPANT. I experienced it as a kid. So no thanks. Never goind back to that hellhole.
"Later in 2011, a majority on an Alabama state appeals court ordered a new trial for Tillman. Tillman was convicted for the second time on June 22, 2012 and sentenced to life in prison. He remains incarcerated at Limestone Correctional Facility." The audacity of this evil man.
He was a user and manipulator. A narcissist. Poor Janet tried to keep her family together. She knows only joy now, it's the family that suffers her loss.
@@bonniehare2372 poor Janet's entire existence was overlooking constant major red flags while everyone else worshipped him being with a devil but everyone thinks he is godly means if Janet tried to go to someone they would have told her she was paranoid crazy or worse. TRULY WHERE COULD SHE HAVE TURNED EVEN AFTER HE SHOT HER IN THE BACK WITH A RIFLE STILL PEOPLE WERE DEFENDING HIM. THATS A REALLY DARK PLACE JANET WAS IN SHE WAS TOO SWEET AND KIND AND PURE TO KNOW HOW TO HANDLE A PREDATOR LIKE TIM.
My husbands cousin is a preacher & he is very charismatic. I don’t trust him & don’t like even being around him. My brother worked at our parent’s church. This man was so abusive to my brother & found out that he was also abusive to his children. My brother did not tell anyone about the ministers until the minister left the church. My folks were just devastated. My mother didn’t want to believe it. The moment I met this preacher, I felt a really bad vibe from this guy. And after my brother told our folks, they believed him because he wouldn’t lie about something like that. Mom was always seeing the good in people. She was betrayed. And my dad was also. They were shocked. And then started to look for a new pastor. It took them 2 yrs. Just because a person is a man of god, it doesn’t mean he is a good person. These parishioners have to be careful. They want to believe so badly that these people who say they are so good, they are manipulators & sociopaths. A church full of kind hearted folks, is a perfect place for evil to slowly grow & gain control. I don’t need to go into a church to get a dose of good. I take a walk in the woods.
She and her family knew he was not Biblical qualified to be pastor, yet they remained silent. It's one thing to forgive your husband and quite another to keep quiet about his past. She didn't deserve to die, she didn't deserve such a monster as husband--- but she did stay quite when she should have spoken up. If I was her sister, I would be making phone calls to any church he spoke at or pastored. It's a Christian duty.
Same here! Had a Pastor at our church who gave great sermons. But, after awhile couldn't condone his treatment of his family, at church functions!( He was always treating them with disrespect!!) As a result, lost all respect for, & became uneasy around him! Apparently, the elders felt the same way, as they docked his pay. He then resigned & 1/2 of our congregation, left with him!
I never trust anyone who flaunts their religion as a way fo gaining one's trust, makes me wonder if I am about to be stabbed in the back. As, my late mother used to say, " The way I live my life is my religion." She also used to say, "Actions speak louder than words." True on both counts!
You see people need to follow Jesus Christ and not some man or woman preachers. This man Tillman murdered his wife. As for false preachers Jesus said by their fruit you will know them. Today there are many false preachers who are deceiving so many people. Most of them are very wealthy. They have mansions, luxury cars and all of the creature comforts and pleasure they want. They have become wealthy by manipulating and robbing church members.
It’s not necessarily the people like him. It’s the Bible. If anyone read that book and was honest and asked questions they would reject everything in that book. It oozes with immorality from the biblical god and from Jesus.
I remember this story so sad. Her brother had discernment about that evil man and thank goodness for the statement that saved the case. Man was just vile. Pray the daughters are well and thriving, just an awful traumatic situation
@@misplacedsouthern1236The devil was never an angel. You know nothing about it. You keep leaving the garbage police of old men and you don't even open the book. That has the true story it's got nothing to do with it
@@VG-rj8pn ”Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.“ Ezekiel 28:13-19
I grew up in the Church of God as a little kid. All my problems with how God's Word is taught comes from that church. We were taught to be scared of Satan because he was waiting right outside of the church doors and to be scared of God because he was itching to strike us down. As an adult and a Christian I don't teach my children to be scared of God but to have fear of him and to do what is right.
you are not that smart. This all happened long time ago. The production was done later he said what he is going to do at the interview -at that point interview already took place many many years ago. do you know how you build up suspense ? You obviously don’t understand how such a production is done.
@tomspeed3354 Thank u for ur comment. Forgive gor my ignorancein such a geniuslike ur self. I didn't watch the whole vid .I commented on a certain part. I'm usually just listening while I working in my yard r around the house . So I don't know about what ur eyes looked at . I just know what my ears heard, looked & commented . But thank u I appreciate ur expertise.
What an amazingly smart Detective, and all the people of integrity surrounding this case are just delightful. !!!! They must have had some really good Forensikers.
Im so blessed that my pastor and father in law is an absolute gem and true man of god dedicated his whole life to god (the real deal) pastors that do these bad things unfortunately make people stray from god and its just heartbreaking...
My ex husband is this type, he has everyone believing he’s this God fearing man, but the minute I left him to protect our kids and I the wolf dressed in sheep’s clothing came out. He threatened my life several times and almost accomplished what he set out to do, not to mention he would have cashed in on a 500,000. Life insurance policy. To this day people still believe his lies, although I have proof it doesn’t seem to matter. Ladies don’t think for one minute just because a man says he’s a Christian and goes to church means he’s good, no! There is evil everywhere, including the church.
Would you be interested in sharing your experience with me? I am having a hard time trusting my gut and understanding these feelings. I feel like he is 2 different people. Very active in church has a leadership role that I believe he feels off of. I don't know who he is and I can't shake these feelings, but then I see how it looks like God is protecting him and blessing him while life for me since the separation has gotten more difficult .
@@tracyannaleclair9320 Hi Tracy, if I could save anyone from what I had to go through, then yes, I would be happy to share with you, what’s the best way to reach you?
Hai, I understand a bit your question. It may seem God is blessing people, however alway remember the Bible repeatedly says Gods children will have very difficult times (and sometimes lives)(psalm 34:20, think of Job's trouble, proverbs 3:11,12, psalm 73, Acts of the Apostels 14:22, 1 Corinthiers 1:27,28, 2 Corinthiers 12: 7-11 ) For comfort read Romans 8.@@tracyannaleclair9320
Ask anyone that waits on tables at restaurants and they will tell you the rudest customers arrive after church lets out on Sunday. That doesn't make them murderers but going to church doesn't make someone a good person.
I hate to concur, but it’s true. I waited tables and Sunday people were cheap. It’s shameful. Big parties were bad too. And minorities. People don’t work for free. If anything, Christians should go out of their way to set an example and be generous and polite to wait staff, ESPECIALLY if they know you are a Christian.
True. I always asked for Sundays off for religious reasons even though I dont attend church regularly. I would rather have my day of rest and not deal with the hangry church folk. 😂
Ask any truck driver who are the most selfish drivers on the road? Ones with a fish on their car or a scripture verse license plate. Hey that “Love your neighbor” thing means your neighbor on the highway also.
RIP Janet. Never stay with someone who disrespects you, cheats on you, or abuses you in any way. And if you do get out DO NOT go back!!! Love and best wishes for Jessica, Tiffany and the rest of Janet's family. I felt bad for Molly too.... UNTIL SHE MARRIED HIM!!! WTAF?! She deserves what she got then. She's lucky that he was arrested before he killed her too. Awesome detective!! Keep taking scumbags off the street!!
I have said it so many times; Love does not hurt!!! When ‘love’ start hurting, something is wrong! It might be your partner, it might be you! But is is wring. So I’ll keep on saying; Love does not hurt!!!!!!!
100% agree with everything you said! On top of that, the detective work was brilliant! Those hayseed, bow hunks from Alabama out thunk this man that's a legend in his own mind.
@@annmariebarratt4213 I have learned about codependency. I remain married to a man that was a taker. I had a great deal of money and he was essentially broke. We do things for various reasons. Since that time in my life I've realized I am the one swooping into rescue men. It doesn't matter how successful they are, I have plenty of money. And deviance are happy to enjoy the spoils. Codependency is not born out of desperation on the part of the codependent.. Successful and accomplished women or men , can be codependent. I tread carefully now in relationships yet I still see myself giving far more than I ever received. And not just monetarily, emotionally as well.
@@KarlMarxFanClub that is an interesting take on things, and not far from spot on! I hope you're well, I just commented on one of your comments on another video. So now I am totally shocked I'm bumping into you here. It was a cops video but I think about a dui. We have probably bumped into one another before. I hope I didn't offend you too much. I appreciate and agree with your comment. I don't know about you, but there is no human being on Earth that I agree with 100% on everything they do or say. Nobody. And I think all of us could easily say that's true. And we should. We should all exercise free will. Take care.
Yes very true I needed to hear this.. my serial cheating partner and his narcissistic ways are the reason you realize they really don’t love you and they are not capable of love.
@NickeyVamp I believe we're all born with the ability of love. The real difference is can they love someone else other than themselves and capable of upholding it.
I love how the detective used psychology and scripted out the questioning in the Florida interview. I admire his critical thinking skills. Would like to see more intelligent thinkers like him out there. Everyone worked well together.
Janet’s brother and sister deserve all the good things in the world. Speaking out against a manipulative abuser is the hardest thing you can do, especially one that is well liked in the community
Tim- what an amazing evil cold blooded killer- what ever happen to america true justice- you killed an innocent human- death row-Detective i wish a great future-
What a piece of work that guy is! Did they say Molly married him after finding out all the lies he fed her? Rest In Peace Janet! I pray for their daughters!
This brought back memories. My husband and I had a charismatic pastor like this when we were a young married couple. He was building our church up. Started a building project. Everyone thought he was the bee’s knees. Flocked to him. My husband and I began having some reservations about him. Things weren’t adding up. I remember walking into the foyer one day and a married woman from the congregation was standing close in front of him and looking up into his face, laughing. He was looking down into her face, smiling widely. It would have been normal if she were his wife, but this woman was NOT his wife. They weren’t even aware of my presence. It was a cozy “lovebird” moment. This little scene really began alarm bells jangling in my head, but I kept it to myself. Meanwhile, the elders of the church adored him. He was getting wonderful things accomplished!!! The community was taking note!!! Fast forward-a local businesswoman had her business lines connected with her home phone lines. This pastor was using her business property temporarily for a church function. She was shocked when she picked up her phone and listened to a torrid conversation between this pastor and a woman she knew clearly wasn’t the pastor’s wife. She began taking notes. This happened multiple times over a course of several days. Whenever she went to pick up her phone to use it, there they would be, laughing and sharing intimate details about their affair. She sat on this information for quite some time, not knowing what to do. Finally she approached the church board. The church board, not wanting to get rid of the pastor, began telling the congregation that the pastor had had a nervous breakdown. The pastor quickly resigned and moved far away. To this day I don’t think that the woman’s husband (the woman involved in the affair with him was the woman I saw laughing up into his face in the foyer) was ever told. I don’t believe the pastor’s wife was told the truth, either. My husband was the youngest board member and tried valiently to persuade the board to do things the right way; we as a family were treated in such a despicable and disgusting fashion that we had to leave the church. One of the board elders? It was his daughter-in-law that was having the affair with the pastor, and he didn’t want it found it. He was furious with my husband when my husband said that we needed to minister to the marriages involved in this affair. He wanted it hushed up. The whole board hushed it up. Tried to command my husband to tell the lie that they themselves began to tell-that the pastor had a nervous breakdown. That board and congregation wanted to keep this man that was causing such growth to their church!! To this day, all across that denomination, people will believe that this man had a nervous breakdown, even if the truth is shared. He and that woman carry a horrible secret. I have so so many details I cannot write down here. This man was a smooth liar, master manipulator, and charming speaker. He loved to tell jokes and always had the congregation laughing. I always felt bad for his wife. She always had a timid way about her, white face. I never saw him laughing down at her with adoration. They were always apart from one another-even drove separate vehicles to church. Anyway, beware of charismatic pastors! They may be wolves in sheep’s clothing, preying on your wife!😂
I was married to a so called Pastor. He abused me horifically. When I had to flee for my life..the church backed him. This was over thirty years ago. So much to say but I can't hardly stand to think of it. He recently died and I still have nightmares almost nightly. I almost could think you were describing my ex husband. Thanks for sharing and trying to do the right thing.
Yes, they knew. It's so sad that Janet probably knew what he was capable of as well. She stayed for whatever reason. Maybe for the children. I feel bad for the kids more than anybody. Your parents are your foundation!
@@HayleysComet3 I am listening right now, so, maybe I’ll understand your comment. If possible, would you mind further explaining what you mean? I’m sure there’s a mistress……
The most passionate sermon I ever heard about celibacy before marriage was given by my house guest, a single man, who entertained women in his bedroom, even leaving behind used condoms. I understood the noises I heard coming from his bedroom. The sheer fact that he invited me to go and listen to that sermon still the sounds me.
Human beings like Det. Scott Bartle give me hope for humanity. GOD BLESS this man and PROTECT him from all harm, for all the days of his life. Rest in Paradise sweet Janet, in the loving arms of our Creator. 🙏
Of course. No doubt there are irresponsible gun users too, but with everything else surrounding this case, it was obvious to me that it was no accident.
Yep. Awesome narrated. I think she does house shows too? Thx for sharing. Problem with many “flock”is they kinda workshop the preacher instead the main dood God!
That’s like drinking beer with no alcohol like eating a pepperoni pizza with no pepperoni like going on it once in a lifetime vacation at a passenger jet that won’t takeoff it’s like eating ice cream without the ice it’s like kissing somebody with no lips it’s like holding hands with somebody with no arms It’s like a funny joke that’s not funny
Good quality documentary! Even if you already know the plot, you keep watching. Tension is build up, while the story slowly unfolds. Interviews with family and police + replaying of events variation wa very good. Very sad subject off course, poor woman and family....this documentary tells the story with respect and in memoriam....on a high quality level.
I feel for the daughters. What a conflicting life. Dad in jail, out of jail, moving around, mother dead and THEN finding out Dad was engaged before mom died. There is a lot to get used to. Years of relative peace, then Dad's arrested again, this time with no mom to help them. The grief and anger must be off the charts. Guessing the medical health system, I don't have any confidence they had any support. The one part that made me the angriest is when he went on "retreat" just months after the mom died - obviously going to get his nooky, leaving his grieving daughters to fend for themselves emotionally. I feel bad that after even hearing the truth, Molly can get suckered into his manipulations to actually marry him. I don't blame her at all; he's a smarmy, manipulative jerk with no conscience. His ability to preach well supports his ability to tell anyone what they want to hear.
I once went to a wedding and was introduced to the pastor and his wife, who not just did the ceremony but were invited to the dinner/party. The father of the groom told us that he is a fine man and does a lot for the community. One look at his wife when she was near him, told me everything. I then watched them for a while and all I saw was, a man that knew he had influencce and power and a wife that was trapped and scared. That was the last time I was in a church actually.
@@1anythingandeverything ....I SAW a woman who I thought was trapped in an unhealthy marriage. I HEARD that she lived in a Mansion with a by the community much loved priest/husband. I KNEW it is not the place for a stranger to that community to barge in and tell a woman what to do, based on a hunch. Let' s also not forget that "big church" communities are very closed and all about show and magic.
So every church has abusive pastors because you saw one dodgy guy? Really? This has nothing to do with church and everything to do with your relationship with God. You're the problem, using that excuse as a smokescreen. We're not that dumb, honey.
I was apart of the executive board of a church. About to do a health fair in the community. 2 weeks before the health fair, I caught the Pastor in a compromising position with the church secretary. I went on a 3 day fast, to get permission for my next move. This made my relationship to God closer. Being raised in the Church to serve. Now I stand as a Woman of the Kingdom - Not Church. God had these types of things happen to me in church after church. To show me, it's not about the church house - Cause no man is without sin. God lives in me and not in a church 😇
That is SO sad. That "pasture" may be in trouble on judgement day, but you don't have to let him get in the way of you having a relationship with God. There are good people in churches too. There are even good Churches. Don't judge us all by one bad example.
My heart went out to Molly and I felt so bad for her when she found out about his lying who he was, his fake name, and fake military record. But then when the detective said she married him anyway....all that sadness flew right out the window for me!!! What a pathetic woman!!!
pathetic actually means emotional you know that right? do you even know what love is? you can call her silly but mocking her feelings is disgusting. youre a disgusting person!!!
@@KarlMarxFanClub WHY would you make such a nasty comment as this, if YOU weren’t the one who needs their head examined?! This story is not even remotely about politics! So unless you’re commenting on the STORY at hand, you can keep your mean & ignorant opinions to yourself! And learn how to spell.
As a pastor, there are so so so many points I wish to make here. But time wouldn’t permit. I will say this though; if it’s all about “him” the man and not “Him” as in Jesus, run and run fast!
Good for you,@@OfFiCiAl_CaRgO! I was born from a family who went to church every Sunday growing up in the Philippines. I was always sick as a little girl and had an NDE where I made aware that god and I are all but one. WE ARE IT! All the nonsense about a god being has been handed down to us from generation to generation without having the ability to question it. Well, lucky for me, I did! I have uncovered so many things that have been put limits upon us and restricted us from knowing who we truly are.
For a split second I thought it was Jim Gaffigan in the thumbnail. I mean, I'm a big fan of JG, he's one of my top 3 most favorite stand up comedian of all time...but to be honest, I do not fancy him because of his looks. 😅
Such a compelling, well-done documentary. Telling the story of the evil in a "good" man is as old as time, but it always draws our curiosity. To me, Janet's sister was the heart of this story. She was so wise in her observations and so steadfast in seeking justice for her sister. My prayers for Janet's daughters is that their hearts have healed enough to have found happiness in their lives. Besides Janet, they have paid the highest price for this man's sin and shame.
@@Aleks-JesusismyLORD We should not idolize or take highly on a person lest we will make that person fall. Humans are weak in the flesh. The Bible has given us many examples of how 'great' men have fallen. It is not that they were 'great' men but God using them for the gospel. Remember we are empty vessels and created equal. The Bible tells us to be sober lest the devil prowls like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him standing firm in the faith.
we actually knew of Tim Tillman, he spoke at our denominational conference in Ohio, and then later on at another conference, My husband pastored a church in Ohio, and we invited him to be a guest speaker, He was a very great speaker, charismatic and the man always wore VERY bright suits, blues, purples, etc. Thankfully a couple of weeks before he was yo come speak he cancelled on some lame excuse, I am so glad that he cancelled.... It was a year or so later that this murder happened...it didn't shake our faith, in fact even the devil knows scripture. I am so amazed the church didn't check enough to find that sexual charge back in 1999...sometimes being a sweet, Christian wife can get you killed
@@ericrivera8410 I'm an atheist, so I don't believe in the devil. What's odd is I've never killed anyone, but I'm going to hell. However, if Tillman sincerely asks for God forgiveness he goes to heaven. Yet, I'm doomed. Seems unfair.
I am STUNNED that you still BELIEVE. Your GOD KNEW THIS GUY AND KNEW THAT HE WAS A MURDERER, yet your god DID NOTHING TO STOP HIM. What kind of a god IGNORES A MURDERER AND LETS HIM GO. It took some good honest HUMANS to do what your god SHOULD HAVE DONE IN THE FIRST PLACE. Don’t make EXCUSES, the Bible says that your god is ALL KNOWING AND ALL POWERFUL. So WHY DID GOD DO NOTHING WHEN HE KNEW HE WOULD MURDER THAT INNOCENT WOMAN. You can’t have it BOTH WAYS, either your god is all powerful and all knowing OR HE IS NOT. So which is it. Why would you not scream at your god for his complicity in the death of that woman.
@@MrBILLSTANLEY We are saved by the grace of God. Not by our good works. No one is good enough to earn their way to heaven. If Tillman sincerely asks for God's forgiveness, he will be forgiveness because of God's mercy and love towards us. We are all sinners doomed for hell. Only by the grace of God we can be saved.
@@oldedwardian1778 that's because OUR GOD gives us free will. Satan was moving in this guy's life not Holy Spirit. If you knew the Bible you would understand that the devil is currently in charge of the world, until Christ comes back.
I am a Christian. These types of men are common in churches. I don't go to churches except in rare cases. I stay to myself and read the Bible and pray in solitude. I can't be around many people these days but I don't let that stop me from being a believer.
I'm the same way......
Having belief is like having a penis. Keep it in your pants.
I am the same.Going to church doesn,t make you a christian just like sitting in a garage doesn,t make you a car
Really we should just not forsake the gathering.Not be necesarily go every week.
I don't go to church either anymore but I am a Christian, a child of God. I watch channels on RUclips that are Christian. I like to hear Voddie Bauchman. I watch a channel called Enter The Starz. I like to fellowship in the live chat every morning. He decodes movies that the evil elite who make movies that tell us what they are up to.
My Dad was a pastor and he used to beat us almost every day until my mom took us away from him no one knew in the church it was so hard growing up keeping it a secret. When I got into my teens I became atheist due to it. But than the Lord showed me who he was . To not look at man but look at him. I'm so glad these pastors get exposed
Sorry this happened to you 😢proud of you for seeking God still 🙏🏾
The relief of seeing you came back to God!! So sorry for your de experience 😌
🙏🏻🌟❤️🩹@@Cakecakecake26
@@irmagarcia8266🙏🏻❤️🩹 Amen
God showed you his true colors- A MIRACLE!
This is why people shouldn't blindly trust other people. Just because they preach "the word of god" doesn't make them a good person.
Exactly!
Exactly. And don't blindly thank military people for their service.
These kind of sermons look so scary to me 🤣 Cultlike fanatics. I'd run.
@@libairebane
I agree...run away, run long, run far, run fast 🏃♀️🏃♂️
I personally knew of a preacher like this man when I was a child. I believed in him. Trusted him.
I married a youth pastor. He was the most evil person I ever met in my life.
Thanks God He exposed him, and I can call myself a survivor of his torture.
So sad☺️
@@RuthnieAlcewrong emoji, bruh
Yes, sometimes there are evil people in sheep clothing.
Sometimes the most evil people hide behind the good name of the church/religion.
Glad you are safe now and I hope you are doing well 🙏 💕
@@mercysonkip6725 all pastors are evil,they all spread lies and a cult of death
I always find it very interesting, how some people have a gut instinct that something is 'off' about a person and feel the need to be cautious, while others can think that same person is completely wonderful and trust them completely.
Listen to the gut!!😅
I have always had that gut instinct about people.
They probably had the gut instinct too, but they just didn’t know how to recognize it. They kept dismissing it as something else
Example: “Oh I’m on my period”
“Oh I’m being paranoid”
“Oh God wants me to forgive/love/trust/be kind & gracious towards others”
Narcissists and sociopaths are very skilled at manipulating other people’s impressions of them. It’s a sickness.
Like how the country is divided between the two presidential candidates! It truly is wild how that happens.
This detective deserves a medal for his determination. And a great interrogator as well.
You mean for pushing his flimsy conjecture at all cost? God save us all from such cops.
What determination!!!
I have a different opinion. The cop did a lousy job. How could he miss interrogating the gun shooting team in the very first place and find out that the bullet was taken out after the gun misfired? The life of the second wife and the kids would not be destroyed. ALSO, JUSTICE WOULD HAVE BEEN PREVAILED MUCH EARLIER. My personal opinion anyways.
@@chickenlover657❤w
@@dasak12345 He could have prosecuted the case by just having those witnesses who can testify about why the gun being loaded when it's shud be cleared.
The detective did a perfect impression of the cowardly lion 😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
fantastic impression
Hahaha! Totally agree, I had to play it over lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂
he looks like him too😂
Janet's brother had more spiritual discernment than anyone..
You can't change the stripes on a killer Leppard. Her brother felt the evil from Tim.
Exactly. It’s weird how no one in the church suspected anything. So much for “spiritual discernment”.
Janet who?
@@diannaharvey1758 the victim
Whoever thought the pastor (Timothy Tillman) was a handsome devil would defo need an optician! 😂😂🤣
Yes, and a very good one! 👍🤣🤣
When he was young he gives off Jimmy from love is blind
Absolutely! He looks like a crazy and evil man 🤪. I stopped going to church. I still believe in Jesus Christ our Savior!!
Omgoodness this is the SAME thing I SAID before watching this horror story 😭🤣 he's extremely unhandsome. An ogre of sorts 🥹
😂
Janet seems to have had a good and smart family. So glad they weren’t fooled and had investigators look into it.
Yes, top brother 🙂
Janet's sister said the most heartfelt & heartbreaking things about her much loved sister.❤ i really wish her & the family condolences & love🤗
This documentary proves why critical thinking and being sceptical are necessary.
Decernment
This isn’t exactly a documentary.
@@CarsonHughes85
Of course it is.
@@Trobtwillis how so? Half of it is actors acting out what some people think happened.
@@CarsonHughes85
Let me rephrase then.
It's a blend of documentary & docudrama.
The acting was superb. Everybody seemed like the real thing.
Strongly agree 👍💯
How do you know? Were you the shotgun? Fly on the wall? Jesus H Christ himself?
I agree. I'd like to see 'the making of an episode'.
I find it amusing how "actors" in documentary videos act better than in movies!!😅😂😂
not the church scenes
A wife can choose to forgive a husband for anything he does BUT SHE DOES NOT HAVE TO RECONCILE and return to the marriage. 🙏❤️
monsters are monster's
Especially as fornication is involved.
My sister learned, “You can forgive your husband but you don’t have to stay with him.”
I sure wish I hadn’t!
She doesn’t have to forgive anything
The Detectives impression of the cowardly lion, hysterical. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That part was great! 🤣🤣
I laughed so hard 😂.
That was hilarious. 😂
Time stamp please and thank you 😊
@@PinkyakaAyannaj start at 11:45 to get the full scene 😂.
When I was a kid, my pastor would come over to our house. I knew he wanted my mom because every time we would have a foot washing ceremony at our church, he always wanted my mom to do it. Every time, he came over all of us kids would sit in the room with them. He stopped coming by after he figured out that we knew what he was trying to do. He was married with 5 or 6 kids.
As a pastor’s kid, those foot washing ceremonies give me the creeps. Ain’t no way I’m washing someone’s feet, even if Jesus himself told me to do it.
I’ve also had decades of deconstruction to undo a lot of what I experienced & “learned” as a kid. Organized religion can be wild!
What is a foot washing ceremony?
In my church it's women washing women's feet only and men's washing men's.
That's good @@Daniela-Christianson
@@Daniela-Christianson 🌈 😊
The actor they have playing the pastor is GREAT! makes it so much better!
He looks kinda like a sandy-haired Craig T. Nelson lol
😂
@@alekhidell3644 i totally see it!
That actor looks almost exactly like the guy
He played that creep very well indeed
Can we take a moment to appreciate how well they matched the looks of the actors and the people they're playing!
No.
@@billwilson5341 Absolutely correct, completely irrelevant. Thank you.
It’s hard to leave after you’ve had children with these men. They also usually wait until you’ve had children to start acting out. I speak from experience
@@sherrielee8871Exactly. It makes it harder for a woman to leave since they are dependent on the man.
Spot on! I initially thought the actor was the Agent as a younger man!
I love it when the suspect gets so agitated when being interrogated, sooooo guilty. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
It just go's show how evil that people can be that you would never believe they could be that evil beware of people that say their ministers of the gospel
He's "the preacher"! He tells other people what to think and believe - the nerve, trying to question his "integrity."
It would be funny if not so awful.
Yep, him repeatedly blowing his top....screams guilt.
Anyone who agrees to be interviewed by the police is an idiot.
39:16 the point where he shakes his arms, head and body and screams “Nooooooooo THATS NOT IT” makes me laugh!
Speaking as an Orthodox Christian ☦️, and as a former protestant associated with many non-denominational churches for many years, this allowing people to take positions of leadership so quickly and easily is a HUGE problem.
Are you serious? Sociopaths and narcissist people are everywhere; especially people who live a double life. The Internet and dating apps., social media make this so easy to do.
You are so right. Now many times they are self appointed even.
it's all B.S. anyway
May join a non-demonic 😂
Its all fake and a big problem ..when fantasy dictate how people are treated it can only fail
A sad cautionary tale about how badly an abusive relationship can end. I hope those, especially Christians who encourage women to 'endure and pray' realise how easily they can get blood on their hands. Anyone can be gifted. The real thing is to look at their character. That detective was ace! Glad justice was served.
This is also a good lesson in the value of discernment. The church board should never have hired him without a complete background check. The fact that he kept making excuses over missing information should have set alarm bells ringing.
Complete background check & polygraph must be done before hiring an aspirant pastor. The devil & his cohorts can quote Scriptures & can be a charismatic preacher. Good job D etective fir your perseverance & discernment.
Just hate when people blame the victim
What’s especially sad are republicans who constantly fight against any gun restrictions like ‘red flag laws’ that would help to stop killings like this. Republicans want guns in the hands of people in the middle of domestic abuse cases. They don’t care that countless people are murdered because of their sick attachments to guns.
Amen.
God doesn't expect a wife to accept abuse. An abused spouse needs to leave. Abuse and infidelity break the bonds of marriage.
“Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than going to a garage makes you an automobile.” ~ Billy Sunday
He *was* a Christian though. The truth is that being a Christian doesn't make someone any less likely to be a cold-hearted murderer than a non-Christian.
So don't bother going to church and believing because it doesn't matter.
@@renejean2523 he was not a true Christian but a fake convert and somebody who lied to himself and others.When the Bibel talks bout saved thru faith it means true faith „Not everybody who says to me Lord, Lord….“yes it happens that a true Christian sins but you dont live constantly in sin. You repent and Go on not doing it anymore asking the Lord to guide you. I have no words for someone treating his wife like this and calling hilself a Christian man. Its a shame.
@@fluchfrei4486 - If he believes in the Christian god and Christ and all that, then he's a Christian. It's as simple as that. There are good people who are Christians, and there are bad people who are Christians. Same with Muslims, Jews, atheists and everyone else.
"Sin" is a purely religious concept and has no bearing on the real world. What *you* as a Christian may consider a sin, I as an atheist do not.
And don't forget the Bible and it's god are deeply immoral at times.
No more Billy Sundays
My heart goes out to the 2 girls. Also
Credit to the detective who has done a great job. Justice has been served🙏
At least their momma got justice 😢
I wonder how the girls are today? Please God they will have good lives with genuine kind people with them always. God bless them and good the truth is out. May they reap all the blessings of the orphans and know their Heavenly father will never let them down 👏🏼❤️❤️
I wonder who raised the girls after he went to jail his are her family
My father was a preacher. He was true to his word. ❤❤❤
Nice to hear.
My grandpa was a preacher also. Married to my grandma until he died. That funeral was attended by people I'd never heard of, all spoke highly about him. As you said, a man true to his word, and godly man.
If he collected tithes, he's a follower of Satan.
I attended the church he pastored in Minnesota.
He is the reason why churches need to vett who pastors and preaches in the pulpit.
Interesting. Did you know he was rotten right away or did it take some time?
You cannot vet a psychopath
sk6552 You don’t always knows
@@noteworthyinsignificance That happens quite frequently. Instead of leaving the church, they try to find excuses for what happens. Religion is an additction for many people. They simply cannot live without it.
Jesus DIDN'T start an institutional church, Satan did
Every church must do a background check before hiring a pastor.
But they are mostly crooks and pedos that work in cahoots with each other. Otherwise this would be done.
@@mellando9770 What?
Who is in cahoots?
There would be no pastors.
And youth staff
A backcheck on the ones that give the review on the pastor would be just as nessecary. The whole church is debatable.
I’m so very happy that brilliant prosecutor pursued the case and was able to get him to trial and found guilty! Excellent work, so happy justice was served!
Amen, I agree. Well done. 🇺🇲 💙🇺🇲
The detective Scott deserves so much praise!!! If it wasn’t for all his hard work and dedication, Tim may have gotten away with it!
The interview with Tim was amazing how Scott got Tim to drop his mask!
Ppl need to understand that the gift of gab doesn’t mean you have a true relationship with God
Right that’s why God says to know ppl by the fruits of their labor. A dead tree won’t bare no fruit. God was never in this man heart.
People need to understand that you DONT have a relationship with a myth
Hallelujah and Amen. Moses didn't have the gift of the gab but chose him.
A relationship with what? There isn’t anything there. Just a predator prey relationship made up by other men.
@@gowdsake7103But you can have a relationship with a living being, that can speak and act with visible results
With ALL due respect I did have to laugh at the detective doing the cowardly out of the wizard of oz. Good job lol
😂😂😂
The wizard comment was the best !!!!
It was hilarious. 😂😂
Came here just to see who else LOL’d at that! Totally agree! Especially when Det. Bartle follows that statement with the cowardly lion impersonation! 😅
Me too I luv Detectives that truly do their job to get the bad guy and when he got him riled up in that interview it gave a chilling description of what the "pastor" was really about...and what Karma he wasnt angry at himself he was angry at them for ruining his plans.
This is why discernment is so important especially in the church. It allows you to see past the flesh and if someone is genuine or not.
I always cry for the children when I hear stories like this. I wonder how the 2 girls are doing.
Sûre ! You are right ! God bless you.
Yes it would make me sick to know that I had the same blood line as that drop kick 🤮
I saw a pastor start chasing the money rather than the truth. Scripture says the love of money is ROOT of all evil, so I told my son we will see the fruit of evil manifest.
He was eventually found to be molesting his little adopted daughter. Eventually he agreed to never preach again to get a plea deal.
Coveteousness is an American sin so prevalent that churches forsake warning about how deadly it is. In fact, they preach in a way that encourages coveteousness.
Evil.
Scripture says those who love the world and things of it do NOT have the love of Father God.
go visit them then,
@@myriam8217 xx
What a piece of work this guy is!
Being a pastor is not synonymous with: Being saved, godly, following the Holy Spirit's leading, God fearing, dying to your flesh, having integrity, character, moral compass and then some.
AMEN!! CORRECT!!
AMEN!
Amen
Big Amen!
No of that
What a despicable man!
I am so glad the jury got it right.
RIP Janet
The brother knew from the second he heard about it! Great gut instinct!
Yes indeed, my 1rst thought was that her brother really loved her.
You can trust your gut instinct
Discernment is required these days more than ever.
True.
And what is lacking most in most cases.
People should know when to cut people off, instead of forgiving them over and over again till they regret it, at worse in their grave😢
@@TheMayorEsq forgiving doesn't mean acceptance. It's a chance for caution from that kind of evil
Exactly
Detective Bartle wow!!!! That man is smart, and I am impressed by his humility
Me too! I loved how he played a hayseed ah shucks kinda guy, and the bastard fell for it.
Smart, smart man.
The detective was FAR SMARTER THAN YOUR STINKING GOD
The problem isnt going to church. If theres a shooter at Walmart you don't stop shopping. The problem is the church not holding these men accountable and the fact that most of these men are made to be like celebrities is not how a church is to be.
Exactly. *It’s the lack of accountability* just as it is with the priests and Catholic Church
Joel Olsteen
So very true 👍 😢 👏 👌
You are wrong! I stopped going to Walmart long ago!
Too many churches do this. Not only do I not believe in Christianity anymore but abuse is RAMPANT. I experienced it as a kid. So no thanks. Never goind back to that hellhole.
"Later in 2011, a majority on an Alabama state appeals court ordered a new trial for Tillman. Tillman was convicted for the second time on June 22, 2012 and sentenced to life in prison. He remains incarcerated at Limestone Correctional Facility."
The audacity of this evil man.
Mindy is locked there as well!!
You really can see in the photos of Janet that she was a modest respectful gentle natured woman and you can see the sincerity in her eyes
He was a user and manipulator. A narcissist. Poor Janet tried to keep her family together. She knows only joy now, it's the family that suffers her loss.
@@bonniehare2372 poor Janet's entire existence was overlooking constant major red flags while everyone else worshipped him being with a devil but everyone thinks he is godly means if Janet tried to go to someone they would have told her she was paranoid crazy or worse. TRULY WHERE COULD SHE HAVE TURNED
EVEN AFTER HE SHOT HER IN THE BACK WITH A RIFLE STILL PEOPLE WERE DEFENDING HIM. THATS A REALLY DARK PLACE JANET WAS IN SHE WAS TOO SWEET AND KIND AND PURE TO KNOW HOW TO HANDLE A PREDATOR LIKE TIM.
My husbands cousin is a preacher & he is very charismatic. I don’t trust him & don’t like even being around him. My brother worked at our parent’s church. This man was so abusive to my brother & found out that he was also abusive to his children. My brother did not tell anyone about the ministers until the minister left the church. My folks were just devastated. My mother didn’t want to believe it. The moment I met this preacher, I felt a really bad vibe from this guy. And after my brother told our folks, they believed him because he wouldn’t lie about something like that. Mom was always seeing the good in people. She was betrayed. And my dad was also. They were shocked. And then started to look for a new pastor. It took them 2 yrs.
Just because a person is a man of god, it doesn’t mean he is a good person. These parishioners have to be careful. They want to believe so badly that these people who say they are so good, they are manipulators & sociopaths. A church full of kind hearted folks, is a perfect place for evil to slowly grow & gain control. I don’t need to go into a church to get a dose of good. I take a walk in the woods.
Even when she'd been shot, she was telling him she loved him. Did she suspect he shot her and forgave him? Either way she is an exceptional woman.
She and her family knew he was not Biblical qualified to be pastor, yet they remained silent. It's one thing to forgive your husband and quite another to keep quiet about his past. She didn't deserve to die, she didn't deserve such a monster as husband--- but she did stay quite when she should have spoken up. If I was her sister, I would be making phone calls to any church he spoke at or pastored. It's a Christian duty.
Janet's sister and brother seem like wonderful siblings! What a tragic case. So grateful he was convicted. My heart goes out to the 2 daughters.
I was also thinking what good siblings they were. I wish I had a sister and brother like that.
I know this video is a serious matter but that cowardly lion impersonation took me out 🤣🤣
That took me clean out I kept rewinding it
I have yet to see a 'Handsome' Devil Once in this Series!!! 🤣
Well you know how it goes . “He was a handsome guy, She was beautiful and lite the room”
Lol...
Same!!! 😆 🤣 😂
Yes, looked like a boiled ballpark Frank to me😂
@@RaeBattleRapsMood I’m screaming lol 🤣
I am always on guard with people who have a lot of charisma.
Why is his " schtik" referred to as charisma? I find him gross
@@debratoofamoustomention8996 Me too! Unfortunately a lot of people have no BS detector!!
Same here! Had a Pastor at our church who gave great sermons. But, after awhile couldn't condone his treatment of his family, at church functions!( He was always treating them with disrespect!!) As a result, lost all respect for, & became uneasy around him! Apparently, the elders felt the same way, as they docked his pay. He then resigned & 1/2 of our congregation, left with him!
I’ve never trusted charm, since I was a teenager.
@@carolwaugh5466 Some of us have a strong bs detector
He’s a good example of why people have given up the church!! ! Sad as that is. People who hide evil behind ministry are truly evil.
I never trust anyone who flaunts their religion as a way fo gaining one's trust, makes me wonder if I am about to be stabbed in the back. As, my late mother used to say, " The way I live my life is my religion." She also used to say, "Actions speak louder than words." True on both counts!
You see people need to follow Jesus Christ and not some man or woman preachers. This man Tillman murdered his wife. As for false preachers Jesus said by their fruit you will know them. Today there are many false preachers who are deceiving so many people. Most of them are very wealthy. They have mansions, luxury cars and all of the creature comforts and pleasure they want. They have become wealthy by manipulating and robbing church members.
It’s not necessarily the people like him. It’s the Bible. If anyone read that book and was honest and asked questions they would reject everything in that book. It oozes with immorality from the biblical god and from Jesus.
Thank goodness for having zoom church meetings where an individual no longer has to be in the building all the time.....
@@MovieMakingManJesus is pure. He teaches love, not hate.
I remember this story so sad. Her brother had discernment about that evil man and thank goodness for the statement that saved the case. Man was just vile. Pray the daughters are well and thriving, just an awful traumatic situation
The devil comes in like a angel of light. A wolf in sheep’s clothing.
The devil was the most beautiful angel of all.
@@misplacedsouthern1236The devil was never an angel. You know nothing about it. You keep leaving the garbage police of old men and you don't even open the book. That has the true story it's got nothing to do with it
No the devil was never an angel
@@VG-rj8pn ”Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.“
Ezekiel 28:13-19
The devil or Satan. Never did anything without Gods permission. So, who's really the evil one?
The title of this episode should be "Something ain't Right"...because everyone felt that way.....😮
😂. Good one
Or how about " how dumb and gullible are churchgoers? "
That detective is pretty fantastic. He knew from just studying this man for weeks how he'd react in the interview.
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I grew up in the Church of God as a little kid. All my problems with how God's Word is taught comes from that church. We were taught to be scared of Satan because he was waiting right outside of the church doors and to be scared of God because he was itching to strike us down. As an adult and a Christian I don't teach my children to be scared of God but to have fear of him and to do what is right.
@@MillicentAspinet That goes with the fear of God.
The Worldwide Church of God?
@@tanyaeisman7145 I don't know. I was 11 when we left.
OhMY GOD this Detective is amazing he got him yelling and red face just like ge said he would .wow his is amazing
😂😂❤❤😂😂🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂
you are not that smart. This all happened long time ago. The production was done later he said what he is going to do at the interview -at that point interview already took place many many years ago. do you know how you build up suspense ? You obviously don’t understand how such a production is done.
@tomspeed3354 Thank u for ur comment. Forgive gor my ignorancein such a geniuslike ur self. I didn't watch the whole vid .I commented on a certain part. I'm usually just listening while I working in my yard r around the house . So I don't know about what ur eyes looked at . I just know what my ears heard, looked & commented . But thank u I appreciate ur expertise.
Good for the “pit bull” detective for his due diligence ❤
What an amazingly smart Detective, and all the people of integrity surrounding this case are just delightful. !!!! They must have had some really good Forensikers.
I don't need to go to church to pray I pray at home every day
Amen
He is a killer and I am glad he got caught.
Scott Bartle is one hell of a good detective! Tim goes full psychopath in the interview, a terrifying narcissist...
BartleDoo!
Seeing Tim in such a rage makes me think he probably hit his wife. Breaks my heart.
yes and more than a job
Im so blessed that my pastor and father in law is an absolute gem and true man of god dedicated his whole life to god (the real deal) pastors that do these bad things unfortunately make people stray from god and its just heartbreaking...
My ex husband is this type, he has everyone believing he’s this God fearing man, but the minute I left him to protect our kids and I the wolf dressed in sheep’s clothing came out. He threatened my life several times and almost accomplished what he set out to do, not to mention he would have cashed in on a 500,000. Life insurance policy. To this day people still believe his lies, although I have proof it doesn’t seem to matter. Ladies don’t think for one minute just because a man says he’s a Christian and goes to church means he’s good, no! There is evil everywhere, including the church.
YES, I HAVE PERSONALKY LEARNED THAT!!
Would you be interested in sharing your experience with me? I am having a hard time trusting my gut and understanding these feelings. I feel like he is 2 different people. Very active in church has a leadership role that I believe he feels off of. I don't know who he is and I can't shake these feelings, but then I see how it looks like God is protecting him and blessing him while life for me since the separation has gotten more difficult .
@@tracyannaleclair9320 Hi Tracy, if I could save anyone from what I had to go through, then yes, I would be happy to share with you, what’s the best way to reach you?
Hai, I understand a bit your question. It may seem God is blessing people, however alway remember the Bible repeatedly says Gods children will have very difficult times (and sometimes lives)(psalm 34:20, think of Job's trouble, proverbs 3:11,12, psalm 73, Acts of the Apostels 14:22, 1 Corinthiers 1:27,28, 2 Corinthiers 12: 7-11 ) For comfort read Romans 8.@@tracyannaleclair9320
Ask anyone that waits on tables at restaurants and they will tell you the rudest customers arrive after church lets out on Sunday. That doesn't make them murderers but going to church doesn't make someone a good person.
yeah, so true!
I hate to concur, but it’s true. I waited tables and Sunday people were cheap. It’s shameful. Big parties were bad too. And minorities.
People don’t work for free. If anything, Christians should go out of their way to set an example and be generous and polite to wait staff, ESPECIALLY if they know you are a Christian.
True. I always asked for Sundays off for religious reasons even though I dont attend church regularly. I would rather have my day of rest and not deal with the hangry church folk. 😂
Ask any truck driver who are the most selfish drivers on the road? Ones with a fish on their car or a scripture verse license plate. Hey that “Love your neighbor” thing means your neighbor on the highway also.
True!
I can say that this story sounds very familar because of all of the churches i have attended but i never gave up on believe the Lord is with me!
The wizard of OZ coward 😂😂😂😂😂 i burst out laughing at the detectives making that face and noise 😂😂😂
I love that interviewer pretending to be dumb like Colombo 👍🤣 Tillman fell right in the trap
I guffawed at the
" Recoil " That's a good word... 😅😂🤣👍👍👍
I would have died of he had said, "Well, good golly!"
I loved Columbo, didn't he shot his wife too in the middle of a restaurant?
@@tessaducek5601 Yeah that one got me. 😂 Ghoulish overkill on that one. Like he's patting a 5 year old on the back for finger painting.
@@ZekeThePlumber86 🤣👍😅 That's hilarious... 🤣
RIP Janet. Never stay with someone who disrespects you, cheats on you, or abuses you in any way. And if you do get out DO NOT go back!!! Love and best wishes for Jessica, Tiffany and the rest of Janet's family.
I felt bad for Molly too.... UNTIL SHE MARRIED HIM!!! WTAF?! She deserves what she got then. She's lucky that he was arrested before he killed her too.
Awesome detective!! Keep taking scumbags off the street!!
King David did the same thing. Probably worse.
I have said it so many times;
Love does not hurt!!!
When ‘love’ start hurting, something is wrong!
It might be your partner, it might be you!
But is is wring.
So I’ll keep on saying;
Love does not hurt!!!!!!!
100% agree with everything you said!
On top of that, the detective work was brilliant! Those hayseed, bow hunks from Alabama out thunk this man that's a legend in his own mind.
@@annmariebarratt4213 I have learned about codependency. I remain married to a man that was a taker. I had a great deal of money and he was essentially broke. We do things for various reasons. Since that time in my life I've realized I am the one swooping into rescue men. It doesn't matter how successful they are, I have plenty of money. And deviance are happy to enjoy the spoils.
Codependency is not born out of desperation on the part of the codependent.. Successful and accomplished women or men , can be codependent.
I tread carefully now in relationships yet I still see myself giving far more than I ever received. And not just monetarily, emotionally as well.
@@KarlMarxFanClub that is an interesting take on things, and not far from spot on!
I hope you're well, I just commented on one of your comments on another video. So now I am totally shocked I'm bumping into you here. It was a cops video but I think about a dui. We have probably bumped into one another before.
I hope I didn't offend you too much.
I appreciate and agree with your comment.
I don't know about you, but there is no human being on Earth that I agree with 100% on everything they do or say. Nobody. And I think all of us could easily say that's true. And we should. We should all exercise free will.
Take care.
If your spouse is knowing others in a marital way, they don't love you.
Yes very true I needed to hear this.. my serial cheating partner and his narcissistic ways are the reason you realize they really don’t love you and they are not capable of love.
@@NickeyVampTake care of yourself!
Fact.❤
@NickeyVamp
I believe we're all born with the ability of love. The real difference is can they love someone else other than themselves and capable of upholding it.
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You found the justice,
now you can find the
PEACE.
bless you all for never giving up ❤
I love how the detective used psychology and scripted out the questioning in the Florida interview. I admire his critical thinking skills. Would like to see more intelligent thinkers like him out there. Everyone worked well together.
Janet’s brother and sister deserve all the good things in the world. Speaking out against a manipulative abuser is the hardest thing you can do, especially one that is well liked in the community
I agree. It takes a certain kind of courage to speak out.
HONESTLY THIS GUY SOUNDS LIKE TRUMP.
@@stephanienewchurch3193I like Trump!
No explanation for that.
Someone spilled milk on his background check😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂that part😂😂😂
This detective is an amazing man! CONGRATULATIONS
Actually he's just a persistent fool. God save me from the likes of such.
Tim- what an amazing evil cold blooded killer- what ever happen to america true justice- you killed an innocent human- death row-Detective i wish a great future-
Tim is completely syco .
So sorry she was so weak and lost life for it… poor girls….
I know this most likely won't make sense to many, but ones
eyes say so much. to me.
Almost like seeing their heart.
What a piece of work that guy is! Did they say Molly married him after finding out all the lies he fed her? Rest In Peace Janet! I pray for their daughters!
It sure seemed like that's what took place. If so, pretty crazy, right?
The detectives impression of the cowardly lion was spot on ... the husband is a vile excuse for a human being
😂😂😂😂 yes. Made me laugh out loud! 😂😂😂
This brought back memories. My husband and I had a charismatic pastor like this when we were a young married couple. He was building our church up. Started a building project. Everyone thought he was the bee’s knees. Flocked to him. My husband and I began having some reservations about him. Things weren’t adding up. I remember walking into the foyer one day and a married woman from the congregation was standing close in front of him and looking up into his face, laughing. He was looking down into her face, smiling widely. It would have been normal if she were his wife, but this woman was NOT his wife. They weren’t even aware of my presence. It was a cozy “lovebird” moment. This little scene really began alarm bells jangling in my head, but I kept it to myself. Meanwhile, the elders of the church adored him. He was getting wonderful things accomplished!!! The community was taking note!!! Fast forward-a local businesswoman had her business lines connected with her home phone lines. This pastor was using her business property temporarily for a church function. She was shocked when she picked up her phone and listened to a torrid conversation between this pastor and a woman she knew clearly wasn’t the pastor’s wife. She began taking notes. This happened multiple times over a course of several days. Whenever she went to pick up her phone to use it, there they would be, laughing and sharing intimate details about their affair. She sat on this information for quite some time, not knowing what to do. Finally she approached the church board. The church board, not wanting to get rid of the pastor, began telling the congregation that the pastor had had a nervous breakdown. The pastor quickly resigned and moved far away. To this day I don’t think that the woman’s husband (the woman involved in the affair with him was the woman I saw laughing up into his face in the foyer) was ever told. I don’t believe the pastor’s wife was told the truth, either. My husband was the youngest board member and tried valiently to persuade the board to do things the right way; we as a family were treated in such a despicable and disgusting fashion that we had to leave the church. One of the board elders? It was his daughter-in-law that was having the affair with the pastor, and he didn’t want it found it. He was furious with my husband when my husband said that we needed to minister to the marriages involved in this affair. He wanted it hushed up. The whole board hushed it up. Tried to command my husband to tell the lie that they themselves began to tell-that the pastor had a nervous breakdown. That board and congregation wanted to keep this man that was causing such growth to their church!! To this day, all across that denomination, people will believe that this man had a nervous breakdown, even if the truth is shared. He and that woman carry a horrible secret. I have so so many details I cannot write down here. This man was a smooth liar, master manipulator, and charming speaker. He loved to tell jokes and always had the congregation laughing. I always felt bad for his wife. She always had a timid way about her, white face. I never saw him laughing down at her with adoration. They were always apart from one another-even drove separate vehicles to church. Anyway, beware of charismatic pastors! They may be wolves in sheep’s clothing, preying on your wife!😂
I was married to a so called Pastor. He abused me horifically. When I had to flee for my life..the church backed him. This was over thirty years ago. So much to say but I can't hardly stand to think of it. He recently died and I still have nightmares almost nightly. I almost could think you were describing my ex husband. Thanks for sharing and trying to do the right thing.
Just because someone is in a prominent position doesn’t mean they should always be automatically trusted
Wow! Detective Bartles is a Brainiac. He is brilliant.
Great job investigators and all those that were involved (including the jury) to bring JUSTICE in this case.
I absolutely love Janet’s family. I’m so glad they knew something wasn’t right 🙏🏾🥹
Yes, they knew. It's so sad that Janet probably knew what he was capable of as well. She stayed for whatever reason. Maybe for the children. I feel bad for the kids more than anybody. Your parents are your foundation!
The mistress…..no, I have his picture, it has his name on his uniform, how can it have his name on his uniform? 🤦🏼♀️
@@HayleysComet3 I am listening right now, so, maybe I’ll understand your comment. If possible, would you mind further explaining what you mean? I’m sure there’s a mistress……
Oh! The mistress had his work uniform. Got it.
@@kayhathaway6956 It's said that Molly marry him even though the detective has told her his lies. Strange. Still trusting a liar.
The most passionate sermon I ever heard about celibacy before marriage was given by my house guest, a single man, who entertained women in his bedroom, even leaving behind used condoms. I understood the noises I heard coming from his bedroom. The sheer fact that he invited me to go and listen to that sermon still the sounds me.
Typical Christian. Say one thing, do another.
Human beings like Det. Scott Bartle give me hope for humanity.
GOD BLESS this man and PROTECT him from all harm, for all the days of his life.
Rest in Paradise sweet Janet, in the loving arms of our Creator. 🙏
Uh oh. You're preaching again. . .
He's the real "man of God" in this story.
Yes Lord, bless and protect this Detective.
One has to wonder why god did nothing to protect the wife...
@@katerinamatthews1220 Because he's dead.
Any gun owner knows to clear that gun before carrying it anywhere, so, in my opinion is that this wasn't a accident
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Of course. No doubt there are irresponsible gun users too, but with everything else surrounding this case, it was obvious to me that it was no accident.
Exactly my thoughts!
They said the gun was broken down and made sure it was empty before leaving the turkey shoot. So Tim HAD to have reloaded it.
Theresa Rossi an* accident
I hope there are more stories from this media company because this is not excessively graphic and still great storyvtelling
I agree. ✨
Amen
Yep. Awesome narrated. I think she does house shows too? Thx for sharing. Problem with many “flock”is they kinda workshop the preacher instead the main dood God!
There are other episodes of Handsome Devils.
That’s like drinking beer with no alcohol like eating a pepperoni pizza with no pepperoni like going on it once in a lifetime vacation at a passenger jet that won’t takeoff it’s like eating ice cream without the ice it’s like kissing somebody with no lips it’s like holding hands with somebody with no arms It’s like a funny joke that’s not funny
34:35 my dad used to call it “playing the Country Bumpkin.” Works every time! Lol
That detective deserves an Oscar! TIM: Recoil
DETECTIVE: There ya go, that's a good word!
Good quality documentary! Even if you already know the plot, you keep watching. Tension is build up, while the story slowly unfolds. Interviews with family and police + replaying of events variation wa very good. Very sad subject off course, poor woman and family....this documentary tells the story with respect and in memoriam....on a high quality level.
I feel for the daughters. What a conflicting life. Dad in jail, out of jail, moving around, mother dead and THEN finding out Dad was engaged before mom died. There is a lot to get used to. Years of relative peace, then Dad's arrested again, this time with no mom to help them. The grief and anger must be off the charts. Guessing the medical health system, I don't have any confidence they had any support. The one part that made me the angriest is when he went on "retreat" just months after the mom died - obviously going to get his nooky, leaving his grieving daughters to fend for themselves emotionally. I feel bad that after even hearing the truth, Molly can get suckered into his manipulations to actually marry him. I don't blame her at all; he's a smarmy, manipulative jerk with no conscience. His ability to preach well supports his ability to tell anyone what they want to hear.
The Holy Spirit gives wisdom, knowledge and discernment. Don't commit to any leader unless you have prayed over the situation for a very long time.
I once went to a wedding and was introduced to the pastor and his wife, who not just did the ceremony but were invited to the dinner/party. The father of the groom told us that he is a fine man and does a lot for the community. One look at his wife when she was near him, told me everything. I then watched them for a while and all I saw was, a man that knew he had influencce and power and a wife that was trapped and scared. That was the last time I was in a church actually.
so you knew she was trapped and scared, yet didn't help her. maybe you were given insight to their marriage to help her
@@1anythingandeverything ....I SAW a woman who I thought was trapped in an unhealthy marriage. I HEARD that she lived in a Mansion with a by the community much loved priest/husband. I KNEW it is not the place for a stranger to that community to barge in and tell a woman what to do, based on a hunch. Let' s also not forget that "big church" communities are very closed and all about show and magic.
So every church has abusive pastors because you saw one dodgy guy? Really? This has nothing to do with church and everything to do with your relationship with God. You're the problem, using that excuse as a smokescreen. We're not that dumb, honey.
I was apart of the executive board of a church. About to do a health fair in the community. 2 weeks before the health fair, I caught the Pastor in a compromising position with the church secretary. I went on a 3 day fast, to get permission for my next move. This made my relationship to God closer. Being raised in the Church to serve. Now I stand as a Woman of the Kingdom - Not Church. God had these types of things happen to me in church after church. To show me, it's not about the church house - Cause no man is without sin. God lives in me and not in a church 😇
That is SO sad. That "pasture" may be in trouble on judgement day, but you don't have to let him get in the way of you having a relationship with God. There are good people in churches too. There are even good Churches. Don't judge us all by one bad example.
The officer deserve all the credits. They never gave up on this case. May you rest in peace❤
Extremely good video. Great Police work & lovely community. Janet's family did Janet proud 😊 RIP
Great prosecutor, wonderful supportive family, thank you!
Even the devil is charismatic
Yep
Unfortunately you are so right.
He has to be , all psychopaths are cunning and manipulative.
The devil is the ruler of the world.
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My heart went out to Molly and I felt so bad for her when she found out about his lying who he was, his fake name, and fake military record. But then when the detective said she married him anyway....all that sadness flew right out the window for me!!! What a pathetic woman!!!
pathetic actually means emotional you know that right? do you even know what love is? you can call her silly but mocking her feelings is disgusting. youre a disgusting person!!!
The husband is evil, pure and utter evil.
The same people who voted for trump are the same people who would have thought Timmy was a good man. Their’s no difference.
@@KarlMarxFanClub WHY would you make such a nasty comment as this, if YOU weren’t the one who needs their head examined?! This story is not even remotely about politics! So unless you’re commenting on the STORY at hand, you can keep your mean & ignorant opinions to yourself!
And learn how to spell.
And for her to have children with him. Why? Nothing about her actions make sense.
As a pastor, there are so so so many points I wish to make here. But time wouldn’t permit. I will say this though; if it’s all about “him” the man and not “Him” as in Jesus, run and run fast!
So true.
As a pastor, you are part of the problem because you willingly deceive people with fairy tales that lead them like sheep to the slaughterhouse.
Amen
@@OfFiCiAl_CaRgO care to elaborate?
Good for you,@@OfFiCiAl_CaRgO! I was born from a family who went to church every Sunday growing up in the Philippines. I was always sick as a little girl and had an NDE where I made aware that god and I are all but one. WE ARE IT! All the nonsense about a god being has been handed down to us from generation to generation without having the ability to question it. Well, lucky for me, I did! I have uncovered so many things that have been put limits upon us and restricted us from knowing who we truly are.
This show is called Handsome Devils. Tim Tillman may be a devil, but handsome?
The person wrote that title is blind as whiskey smoking rat bat handsome? Where and when
Maybe they ran out of the handsome and just settled for the devil
@@That_AboElHamd 🤣😂😂🤣
Not my idea of handsome.
For a split second I thought it was Jim Gaffigan in the thumbnail. I mean, I'm a big fan of JG, he's one of my top 3 most favorite stand up comedian of all time...but to be honest, I do not fancy him because of his looks. 😅
What a strong sister! RIP Janet.
Such a compelling, well-done documentary. Telling the story of the evil in a "good" man is as old as time, but it always draws our curiosity. To me, Janet's sister was the heart of this story. She was so wise in her observations and so steadfast in seeking justice for her sister. My prayers for Janet's daughters is that their hearts have healed enough to have found happiness in their lives. Besides Janet, they have paid the highest price for this man's sin and shame.
Rest in peace Janet Tim is a evil person who got what he deserved
No one is good says the bible.
@@Aleks-JesusismyLORD We should not idolize or take highly on a person lest we will make that person fall. Humans are weak in the flesh. The Bible has given us many examples of how 'great' men have fallen. It is not that they were 'great' men but God using them for the gospel. Remember we are empty vessels and created equal. The Bible tells us to be sober lest the devil prowls like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him standing firm in the faith.
@@htan-alpha I believe God's word, they are God's words and they are in a book called "bible" I do not idolize the book, I follow God's own words.
@@Aleks-JesusismyLORD the bible says a lot of ridiculous things.
That detective doing the lion impression was spot on 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Kudos, to that detective that was so composed & then started taking Tillman down a slippery slope & just nailed him.
we actually knew of Tim Tillman, he spoke at our denominational conference in Ohio, and then later on at another conference, My husband pastored a church in Ohio, and we invited him to be a guest speaker, He was a very great speaker, charismatic and the man always wore VERY bright suits, blues, purples, etc. Thankfully a couple of weeks before he was yo come speak he cancelled on some lame excuse, I am so glad that he cancelled.... It was a year or so later that this murder happened...it didn't shake our faith, in fact even the devil knows scripture. I am so amazed the church didn't check enough to find that sexual charge back in 1999...sometimes being a sweet, Christian wife can get you killed
Satanists don't believe in the devil they're atheists
@@ericrivera8410 I'm an atheist, so I don't believe in the devil. What's odd is I've never killed anyone, but I'm going to hell. However, if Tillman sincerely asks for God forgiveness he goes to heaven. Yet, I'm doomed. Seems unfair.
I am STUNNED that you still BELIEVE. Your GOD KNEW THIS GUY AND KNEW THAT HE WAS A MURDERER, yet your god DID NOTHING TO STOP HIM.
What kind of a god IGNORES A MURDERER AND LETS HIM GO.
It took some good honest HUMANS to do what your god SHOULD HAVE DONE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Don’t make EXCUSES, the Bible says that your god is ALL KNOWING AND ALL POWERFUL.
So WHY DID GOD DO NOTHING WHEN HE KNEW HE WOULD MURDER THAT INNOCENT WOMAN.
You can’t have it BOTH WAYS, either your god is all powerful and all knowing OR HE IS NOT.
So which is it.
Why would you not scream at your god for his complicity in the death of that woman.
@@MrBILLSTANLEY We are saved by the grace of God. Not by our good works. No one is good enough to earn their way to heaven. If Tillman sincerely asks for God's forgiveness, he will be forgiveness because of God's mercy and love towards us. We are all sinners doomed for hell. Only by the grace of God we can be saved.
@@oldedwardian1778 that's because OUR GOD gives us free will. Satan was moving in this guy's life not Holy Spirit. If you knew the Bible you would understand that the devil is currently in charge of the world, until Christ comes back.