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  • Опубликовано: 17 май 2024
  • A farmer says he found his wife impaled by a corn rake. The rake has just four tines - so why does she have six puncture wounds? CBS News chief investigative and senior national correspondent Jim Axelrod reports for "48 Hours." Watch more full episodes of "48 Hours" on Pluto TV.
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  • @48hours
    @48hours  Год назад +196

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    • @SiCkNeSs-ux5lb
      @SiCkNeSs-ux5lb Год назад +21

      AWESOME! Thank you.

    • @andreabutts8697
      @andreabutts8697 Год назад +10

      Such a cruel and evil thing to do. You send her son there to find her dead body. That is evil and desperate. God bless them Lord.

    • @marshabutler9635
      @marshabutler9635 Год назад +16

      No real evidence. It's very sad. It's just not proven.

    • @collettesmith7926
      @collettesmith7926 Год назад +5

      @@andreabutts8697 😊

    • @sunoverla11
      @sunoverla11 Год назад +8

      @Marsha Butler they had enough to make their decision and the internet searches were the clincher. Maybe he could have cried or shown anger at who could have done this to his wife. Too removed, cold, emotionless.

  • @mapleleaf0
    @mapleleaf0 Год назад +2914

    It is so scary to me to hear a juror talk about being persuaded by someone's emotion or lack of emotion.

    • @kjelladrian3205
      @kjelladrian3205 Год назад +213

      Yes, we all react differently to situations like this. He knew being convicted, his son would be an orphan and he would spend the rest of his life behind bars. Also the love between them had faded. All this could very well have made him numb and seemingly cold. A conviction should be based on facts, evidence and credible witnesses, not feelings or beliefs!

    • @paulclancy2404
      @paulclancy2404 Год назад +63

      Ya like they Said there job to show reasonable doubts not if he's the one , God for bid you ruined a family and he actually is innocent

    • @paulclancy2404
      @paulclancy2404 Год назад +1

      Like he eluded its no longer innocent till guilty but guilty till innocent and man would he need more than a solid alibi , they had him hung before the trial

    • @Mrcaffinebean
      @Mrcaffinebean Год назад +61

      Speaks to how terrible the defense team was that they put him on the stand and that they didn’t coach him better for his testimony.

    • @The_Cholo
      @The_Cholo Год назад +45

      The justice system needs to be revised. Like now. It's so old school.

  • @99vargass
    @99vargass Год назад +2833

    I have no idea if he killed her or not, but for jurors to find "guilt beyond reasonable doubt" is crazy.

    • @frisbeetarian34
      @frisbeetarian34 Год назад +64

      Absolutely spot on.

    • @jphwife
      @jphwife Год назад +56

      My thoughts exactly

    • @jonargentina6285
      @jonargentina6285 Год назад +65

      I agree but as someone who was served as a juror on an 8 week manslaughter trial I can say that no way one hour is enough to portray the ups and downs of a trial. But usually this would work in the defendant's favour

    • @HereIsWisdom1318
      @HereIsWisdom1318 Год назад +93

      Its almost like people dont know what "beyond reasonable doubt" means anymore!

    • @julioe.martinez4606
      @julioe.martinez4606 Год назад

      Next time let you be the next one…

  • @Choppopolis
    @Choppopolis 8 месяцев назад +177

    People in the country don't always call 911. My uncle held his leg together in the back of a pickup on the way to the hospital. My cousin got burned terribly and took himself to urgent care. He then went home in agony to heal for weeks AMA. Accidents happen on farms. This is a crazy verdict.

    • @gungamesschuf7irdrjklmcemi810
      @gungamesschuf7irdrjklmcemi810 7 месяцев назад +5

      This is so true! I have heard countless stories. Women in advanced labor driving themselves to the hospital. A hunter who shot his friend with an arrow in the abdomen and hauled him in in the bed of a pickup. A woman whose husband cut off 3 fingers with a saw and she dropped him off at the clinic and went to her hair appointment.

    • @romanmoralesqb1
      @romanmoralesqb1 7 месяцев назад +13

      It’s often hard for responders to even find places out in the country

    • @auntbee2745
      @auntbee2745 7 месяцев назад +6

      It doesn’t even have to be someone in the country. I never go to the doctor or ER unless I have to. I am a federal worker and it is too expensive to do anything unless you have to.

    • @mcmlxv9827
      @mcmlxv9827 6 месяцев назад +6

      My dad cut off two of his fingers. He wrapped it and jumped into the car and drove to the hospital, ambulances take time especially in rural areas.

    • @lisalakin5355
      @lisalakin5355 3 месяца назад +7

      Great point! Country people pride themselves on self sufficiency

  • @biancamarya6044
    @biancamarya6044 9 месяцев назад +139

    Absolutely one of the worst trails I have ever watched. Zero evidence that he did this. Shame on everyone involved, even his defense team.

    • @kellietaylor9913
      @kellietaylor9913 27 дней назад +1

      Really how does that happen it's ridiculous..you wouldn't pull it out either

    • @crystalprice1942
      @crystalprice1942 8 дней назад

      Hey, the maths do not add up. He was rightfully convicted.

    • @bluehorizon9547
      @bluehorizon9547 23 часа назад

      @@crystalprice1942 If he killed her the blood would be all over him, walls, everywhere. His sons testimony clears him 100%. This woman fell on the spikes, tried to get up, pain and shock caused her to fail so she landed back on the spikes, tried to crawl out but wounds were to o bad.

  • @-TOH-
    @-TOH- Год назад +2097

    I have always found this story super interesting because I had something eerily similar happen. Not a corn rake but a regular garden rake. I fell on it while raking rotten apples. I hurt myself, but I’m obviously still alive. Well, after I fell, I was hurt so bad that when I tried to get up, I fell right back down because of the pain, right back onto the rake. But I wonder, if I was actually hurt so badly that I died, would my husband be in prison right now?

    • @solargoldfish
      @solargoldfish Год назад +245

      Plus she was already dizzy from that surgery. Could you imagine being dizzy then the pain? Or slipping in a dirt floor, manybe tripping over equipment on the ground. It’s good to hear you’re OK. I remember watching this story the first time thinking it seems possible to have fallen down twice if you’re that dizzy. Thank you for sharing a you’re inside.

    • @7eyesopenwide168
      @7eyesopenwide168 Год назад +157

      Weird accidents happen.

    • @angelcannon4601
      @angelcannon4601 Год назад +171

      I thought this too she tried to get back up and fell

    • @natatron
      @natatron Год назад +106

      Well, between the internet searches and the affair/divorce I believe that's a done deal for what happened. If not for those factors it would have probably been more believable that it was an accident.

    • @thesollys9540
      @thesollys9540 Год назад +23

      Far out, I thought exactly the same and made a separate comment before I saw this one

  • @kayisehadebe1790
    @kayisehadebe1790 Год назад +1457

    The deductive reasoning of the jurors is shocking😳. To think people's fate is placed in their hands, is terrifying.

    • @micheleh5269
      @micheleh5269 Год назад +63

      And it seems pretty easy to believe she could have tried to get up and then fell on it again. Or that she tried to roll over

    • @davydtaylor4151
      @davydtaylor4151 Год назад +68

      Happy that I’m not the only one that thinks this. The juror openly says “if not Todd then who else”. As if their incredulity is somehow a sign of his guilt. I definitely wouldn’t be happy sending a man to jail for the rest of his life on such little evidence.

    • @PicassoPP
      @PicassoPP Год назад +4

      Exactly 🤯

    • @2112jp
      @2112jp Год назад +50

      That’s why jurors shouldn’t be random people…it should be trained individuals.

    • @traceybanks3525
      @traceybanks3525 Год назад +5

      I so agree.. absolutely horrible..

  • @jefflebowski3784
    @jefflebowski3784 7 месяцев назад +17

    If driving to the hospital is the fastest way to get an injured person medical care, as opposed to waiting for emergency services to come to you, then it makes perfect sense to not call 911 until you’re already on the road. Why would you waste valuable time calling before you leave for the hospital, when you can make that call while you’re moving and let them know what’s going on.

  • @Mr-gg8ek
    @Mr-gg8ek 8 месяцев назад +65

    The jury decided he must be guilty because they could not think of a more likely scenario? F’n terrifying.

    • @erinboosey6323
      @erinboosey6323 Месяц назад +2

      Right??! That's what I was thinking. That's not how this works people....man the guy's face when they said guilty too. You could tell he wasn't expecting that and I don't think he should have been because I think it's most LIKELY that he didn't do it.

  • @loyevangelists
    @loyevangelists Год назад +1508

    After watching this it is just unbelievable to me that 12 jurors actually believed that he was guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

    • @lifewithoutfear1213
      @lifewithoutfear1213 Год назад +97

      Yeah I know right! That’s crazy!! That judge is even more corrupt for denying his motion for new trial.

    • @micheleh5269
      @micheleh5269 Год назад +86

      There's also the possibility that she actually had an accident, tried to get up and fell back on the rake. This may very well be a miscarriage of justice. Shouldn't we prefer to see a guilty man walk than an innocent man get life? The people who say "He did it" MIGHT be right and that's as much as they got - MAYBE

    • @kjelladrian3205
      @kjelladrian3205 Год назад +30

      Yes, the fact that "belief" was the only thing they had to go on is enough only to believe someone is guilty, It's not enough to believe someone is guilty beyond reasonable doubt. That should be based on more than circumstantial evidence and feelings based on the "cold" behaviour of the suspect.

    • @mp5249
      @mp5249 Год назад +43

      Hope he gets an appeal. I live in Iowa. People act on emotion not facts. They convicted on personality. A 17 year old shot his friend point blank in the middle of the day on a sidewalk downtown. He got 2 years. He's already free.

    • @kideriksson
      @kideriksson Год назад +31

      So hos do you explain the Google searches?

  • @joannaandros9580
    @joannaandros9580 Год назад +1461

    I really hate jurors condemning someone based off of their diagnosis of someone's emotional behavior. It's bull.

    • @treehugger3615
      @treehugger3615 Год назад +1

      And then there are batsh!t crazy, narcissistic serial killers out there that are given 30-50 years with the possibility of parole. Justice is not blind, but very selective.

    • @kulvirkang7953
      @kulvirkang7953 Год назад +37

      It sucks, worse is being coloured.
      I had to spend 30 thousand for lawyers just to prove it wasn't me.
      Guilty before proven innocent

    • @DSDaly
      @DSDaly Год назад +3

      ​@@kulvirkang7953 that's awful. Sorry that has to you

    • @debbiestinnett2987
      @debbiestinnett2987 Год назад +9

      ​@@kulvirkang7953 a system so fd up at best. Cruel and disgusting!

    • @GlassOnion602
      @GlassOnion602 Год назад +7

      Yeah, when they say - the reaction just 'doesn't fit' etc.

  • @mlwilliam213
    @mlwilliam213 7 месяцев назад +91

    I’ve often been called cold an unemotional. If someone close to me was injured I’d feel confident that I could get them to the hospital faster than an ambulance. It’s a good thing this jury isn’t responsible for my fate. Did he do it? Maybe. Did the prosecution prove that? They sure as hell didn’t.

    • @tropistan7735
      @tropistan7735 Месяц назад +2

      The prosecutor enraged me on his response to being accused a crime is not that of an innocent person's.
      Three interviews found here on RUclips of people accused of crimes that were later proven to be innocent stand out in my head. All three were calm.( A fourth one I just remembered cried and denied it was a drug addict - the only one who showed the "appropriate" response).
      The bf in the Denise Huskins case. One was black guy when the police were looking at for a white guy. I can't remember the specifics of the third other than it was a white guy.
      Also watched plenty of cases this channel were the husband's/bf's interview behaviour were supposed to indicate their guilt only to find out they had nothing to do with it.
      Behaviour and reaction means nothing.

    • @soude85
      @soude85 Месяц назад

      I think they would have demonised him the same way, if he hadn’t tried to drive her. It’s so messed up! I can’t believe the jury did that, why couldn’t just one of them say that there is basically no evidence for anything… cowards!

  • @jerrycombs4077
    @jerrycombs4077 7 месяцев назад +71

    37:39 They reached a consensus by going back through all the evidence? What evidence?! I hope the jurors realize their mistake and come out publicly admitting they messed up, force the verdict into a mistrial and give him a new trial. Absolutely ridiculous they decided his fate in 7 hours, probably lots of peer pressuring and wanting to just be done. I can’t fathom how this man feels

    • @tamitribbiani7907
      @tamitribbiani7907 4 месяца назад +1

      I don't know if the state proved their case beyond a reasonable doubt but the internet searches were pretty suspicious!

    • @sasharaj
      @sasharaj 2 месяца назад +4

      . @tamitribbiani7907 The iPad was available to others to use. Why assume he alone could have made those searches?

    • @tamitribbiani7907
      @tamitribbiani7907 2 месяца назад +2

      @@sasharaj Who else was it available to?

    • @macethorns1168
      @macethorns1168 2 месяца назад +1

      The batshit crazy bit is that it took them SEVEN HOURS to reach that wildly wrong verdict.

    • @tropistan7735
      @tropistan7735 Месяц назад +7

      ​@@tamitribbiani7907the dead cheating wife. Did you not listen? Searches included wedding dresses

  • @maclainenoxon4586
    @maclainenoxon4586 Год назад +549

    This is the strongest I’ve felt in a while that someone didn’t get the jury, trial, defense, and therefore verdict they deserved.

    • @KZ-gi7ey
      @KZ-gi7ey Год назад +1

      You think it has anything to do with the fact that you’re only being presented the “defense perspective” as stated in the beginning of this video?

    • @MyDoppleganger20
      @MyDoppleganger20 Год назад +2

      I completely agree

    • @MyDoppleganger20
      @MyDoppleganger20 Год назад +7

      @@KZ-gi7ey how on earth can you say that? Did you even watch the entire episode? There was someone who spoke for the prosecution team

    • @e.wilson1205
      @e.wilson1205 Год назад +2

      I watched the entire trial . I feel like you.

    • @christina5kids16grands
      @christina5kids16grands Год назад

      Couldn’t agree more.

  • @Michelle-fb5og
    @Michelle-fb5og Год назад +328

    As of April 2023 Todd Mullis has asked for a new trial after some lawyers looked in to the case. Turns out the sheriff was good friends with Amy and so should not have been involved in this case. I hope he is granted a new trial with a more effective counsel and jurors who understand “reasonable doubt”.

    • @Flamingpins
      @Flamingpins 11 месяцев назад +1

      Can you provide a link please?

    • @kenbob1071
      @kenbob1071 6 месяцев назад

      @@Flamingpins No valid link will be provided b/c it's a made-up lie.

    • @blewgrassboy8461
      @blewgrassboy8461 4 месяца назад +18

      Good friends😅

    • @paolaagredo8862
      @paolaagredo8862 3 месяца назад

      Me too!

    • @DJJahT
      @DJJahT 2 месяца назад +1

      Todd Mullis did it.

  • @muiruridexter
    @muiruridexter 6 месяцев назад +76

    Utter disgrace from the jury. This guy deserves a retrial

  • @gena4638
    @gena4638 7 месяцев назад +122

    I am absolutely shocked that he was convicted. It was so eerie to hear the Juror talk about convicting him based on his emotion or lack thereof. That his emotion can have more of an impact on them than evidence. Crazy...

    • @RichardWagner-hi4zn
      @RichardWagner-hi4zn 22 дня назад

      Listen again. You missed half.

    • @gena4638
      @gena4638 22 дня назад

      @@RichardWagner-hi4zn Try again. Form complete sentences.

    • @RichardWagner-hi4zn
      @RichardWagner-hi4zn 22 дня назад

      @@gena4638 You are slow, I had thought so . Never mind. lol

    • @gena4638
      @gena4638 22 дня назад +3

      @@RichardWagner-hi4zn In case you are unaware, your comment history on this channel is public and visible. They are all troll-ish and typed in broken English with little to no punctuation. You'd be surprised at what you can learn about one's personality through their past comments. Trolls tend to stick out like a sore thumb. Trolls who speak in lols and grunts are even worse. Online conversation can be worthwhile, even when it's to disagree about something as trivial as a video on RUclips, but not with those who fit the aforementioned category. 🤓
      Have a great day!

    • @RichardWagner-hi4zn
      @RichardWagner-hi4zn 22 дня назад

      @@gena4638 You read my comment history? Funny indeed. I am all amazement! lol
      And "broken English"... for a 2nd foreign language I believe it's rather splendid. ;-)

  • @R.O.T.C._SEEM
    @R.O.T.C._SEEM Год назад +690

    Love how they found no evidence linking him to the crime but still found him guilty. The thing about jury is that they have the mindset of they would rather put an innocent man in jail than let a guilty man walk

    • @Prismalpink
      @Prismalpink Год назад +6

      Yea it’s messed up. It’s to get a raise in salary and fill up their stupid resumes.

    • @rianalauren
      @rianalauren Год назад +9

      one never knows what goes on in the collective minds of juries.

    • @LAFITZ10
      @LAFITZ10 Год назад +9

      listen to the DEAD they TALK.... SHE WARNED OF THIS............. believe her.

    • @robwizzle3615
      @robwizzle3615 Год назад

      @LAFITZ10 how can you believe some one so willing to lie to your face and on her back.... that was rude in just saying you can't obviously not trust her the only thing important to her was her... the son could have killed her and the married man she was banging in a truck on a back road at 39 years old could have left his phone at home and killed her

    • @Sheistyscorpion
      @Sheistyscorpion Год назад +15

      Theree was evidence. Maybe not solid but they had evidence. The internet search, he and his son were the only ones on the property.

  • @brosciencegutfeelings7058
    @brosciencegutfeelings7058 Год назад +351

    This is a scary example of how a bad jury and bad lawyering can affect the entirety of your case….

  • @grushaamunga566
    @grushaamunga566 7 месяцев назад +71

    I have watched so many of these, but this guy here is innocent. I am truly sorry that things turned out this way for him

    • @KingsDaughter1957
      @KingsDaughter1957 8 дней назад +1

      I'm not sure I'd state it quite so emphatically, but I DO have my doubts.

  • @feybaha
    @feybaha 11 месяцев назад +95

    Imagine being cheated on by your wife and then getting sentenced to life because of it.

    • @Kathleen-Mariam
      @Kathleen-Mariam 2 месяца назад +7

      I think it was an accident

    • @Kathleen-Mariam
      @Kathleen-Mariam 2 месяца назад +9

      Terry has more motive. Todd seems innocent.

    • @taviajohnson9328
      @taviajohnson9328 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@@Kathleen-Mariamwas looking for this comment...

    • @hharrison91
      @hharrison91 Месяц назад +2

      Sentenced to life because she was murdered.

    • @moskie325
      @moskie325 15 дней назад +1

      Imagine creating conditions of such control and unhappiness that your wife becomes so desperate that she cheats on you

  • @sjkborn81
    @sjkborn81 Год назад +474

    From a now divorced, faithful husband that's been cheated on by his wife multiple times. I can whole heartedly relate with his lack of emotion. At the end of my marriage if this would have happened to my wife I would have reacted the same exact way. The heart is beyond broken and all emotion is gone.

    • @tariqali5447
      @tariqali5447 Год назад +21

      I'm with you on that bruh

    • @afandifitri
      @afandifitri Год назад +14

      You will find your one my brother! Hang in there

    • @mp5249
      @mp5249 Год назад +23

      I'm a now divorced faithful wife who had much worse perpetrated on me by my ex husband. He is now dying by his own bad choices and it's horrible. Treat others how you want to be treated.

    • @sjkborn81
      @sjkborn81 Год назад +8

      @@mp5249 Exactly

    • @adraborandavis-blake4611
      @adraborandavis-blake4611 Год назад +11

      @@millicientaspinet5607 I can agree with that "christian lack of morals and ethics" I am first of all a deeply spiritual person(God is in my heart) and religious person ( I like gathering with people who I hope share my fundamental beliefs). But I have found through personal experience that many religious people are not loving,nice or helpful in the least. (Think of the Puritans and you have 'religious people' today). They are deeply unforgiving and stiff necked. Look for the person who is kind, decent and loving with a good sense of humor..

  • @ayanafields7414
    @ayanafields7414 Год назад +1051

    The fact that the jurors convicted on personal feelings is just wild

    • @ZOEYANDFRIENDS673
      @ZOEYANDFRIENDS673 Год назад +23

      casey anthony was more guilty. and walked. but i really think Todd hated her after her affairs. their marriage was over a long time ago. he tried to control her, and she relapsed. victims of DV are afraid to leave, to divorce. both adults were messed up. he couldve save his children by not killing THEIR mom.

    • @Isa-js3ve
      @Isa-js3ve Год назад +3

      In France, it's common. It happens all the time.

    • @tgi3867
      @tgi3867 Год назад +12

      He didn't do it jurors got it wrong

    • @hodajucipoligraf2913
      @hodajucipoligraf2913 11 месяцев назад +8

      She relapsed?😂😂😂 I didn't know that this is the name for unfaithfull woman,for s..t who is s....ng around 🤔🙄🤨

    • @johnanthony9923
      @johnanthony9923 11 месяцев назад +8

      Or, you know, the overwhelming circumstantial evidence.

  • @daxota_6750
    @daxota_6750 5 месяцев назад +7

    I'm sorry but they need to go over this case again. She just recently left the hospital, she was dizzy and if she fell on that rake accidentally she might have tried to get up but fell back on it. I'm not saying he's not guilty I just need more evidence

  • @ezzb
    @ezzb Месяц назад +13

    She was probably worried about him finding out and was searching "what happens to cheating wives". Why would you even search that if you're the husband? Not how to clean blood? Or Farm Accidents? She was even searching for wedding dresses, as if the guy she was cheating with was actually going to leave his family.

    • @RichardWagner-hi4zn
      @RichardWagner-hi4zn 22 дня назад +2

      Imagine you find out your wife is looking for wedding dresses. Ugh

    • @hardwired8084
      @hardwired8084 6 дней назад

      If some of these women put the same effort that they waste on another man that most likely isn't even serious, back into their marriages instead of humiliating and hurting their husbands, they would end up alive, and most likely better off cuz. that is all he really wants after getting over the forgiving part ...

  • @megadethmelitia
    @megadethmelitia Год назад +717

    This is absolutely horrifying. Those jurors should be absolutely ashamed. Based on the evidence the son could have just as easily killed his mom for destroying the family and cheating on his dad. what a tragic miscarriage of justice.

    • @mommas2470
      @mommas2470 Год назад +42

      So I'm not the only one....

    • @angelcannon4601
      @angelcannon4601 Год назад +20

      I thought this too

    • @MB-pu8cv
      @MB-pu8cv Год назад +13

      Let me understand this. So we should think the son could have done it. But is horrifying to you to accept that the dad could have done it?.
      Apparently. They both alibi each other. But his dad was the one in control. He was directing his son where to go or where to be or what to do. He said that. His dad was the who sent him to exactly where his mother was dead to find her. His dad was also the one controlling his mother.
      Or perhaps the cats did it. Cause according to the dad. The cats take the done the security cameras. Of course. he had no idea of that. With your mentality. Then the cats could have done it as well.
      That man seems like an angry controlling freak.

    • @djjaggs12
      @djjaggs12 Год назад +31

      It's called reasonable doubt!! There is more doubt than evidence which explains why there are so many people that don't agree with you!

    • @cmore8273
      @cmore8273 Год назад +12

      exactly. i was screaming this the whole time. i don’t think the son did it but to me i think he looks more guilty than the dad. at first he said the dad never left his sight and then he changed his story to he doesn’t even know how long his dad was out of sight. possibly because he got spooked and wanted to save himself. again i’m 99% sure that’s not the case and i believe the son is innocent. but is there a possibly he did it? yes absolutely. utterly disgusting.

  • @everyoneisonsteroids2720
    @everyoneisonsteroids2720 Год назад +990

    There is so much reasonable doubt it’s shocking that he was convicted. Terrifying to think someone’s fate is left in the hands of random jurors which are not necessarily well versed in understanding and interpreting the law or even have passed some sort of test that proves they have acceptable methods to think things through in general.

    • @ScreamingEagleFTW
      @ScreamingEagleFTW Год назад +1

      or a basic cognitive and IQ test. A few word problems should weed out the morons.

    • @JazzyJae88
      @JazzyJae88 Год назад +59

      Good point. There should be some testing for critical thinking and comprehension.

    • @amyrios5548
      @amyrios5548 Год назад +5

      @@JazzyJae88 agree

    • @zoeyprograms790
      @zoeyprograms790 Год назад +4

      this is interesting!

    • @angussneef
      @angussneef Год назад +6

      They have juror selection… ya’ll don’t know how the legal system works?

  • @sethpowell3895
    @sethpowell3895 3 месяца назад +17

    Amy’s friend really blaming Todd for her cheating on him and their family…

  • @greenman1116
    @greenman1116 4 месяца назад +16

    In America you’re not supposed to have to prove you’re innocent, they’re supposed to prove you’re guilty. Feel like this was a small town kangaroo court.

  • @goathair33
    @goathair33 Год назад +422

    Ex lover claims “she was afraid of her husband”, apparently not afraid enough to stop cheating on him. 🙄

    • @lalaland23lalaland
      @lalaland23lalaland Год назад

      I know right. Female and their love of penises

    • @InspektoraDeFrutas.
      @InspektoraDeFrutas. Год назад +33

      Exactly!
      For all I know, it could’ve been the lover.
      Maybe she pretended to be sick to go and meet him, and then they had a disagreement because obviously she wanted to marry him but he wanted to break up, and he stabbed her with a fork...
      While the poor husband was unsuspectingly working in the farm.

    • @megsarna7429
      @megsarna7429 Год назад +11

      Wats cheating on her husband got to do with fear of him? All spouses are afraid of cheating but still do

    • @charlesjoabrudolph6041
      @charlesjoabrudolph6041 Год назад

      True that

    • @candiceparr4174
      @candiceparr4174 2 месяца назад +4

      It could have been an accident.

  • @Stacey0909
    @Stacey0909 Год назад +805

    My family lives on a 600 acre farm at least 20-30 minutes from the hospital. I heard screaming as my husband & his brother were hit by a truck while riding a 4 wheeler. I jumped in the truck & backed up to my brother-in-law who was laying in the field with a broken leg. My husband took over driving to the hospital. That's how it's often done out in the country. My husband was a US Navy SEAL with extensive training in offensive & defensive driving. I know we got there quicker than it would have taken for an ambulance to get there & then turn around & drive to the hospital. 🤷‍♀️

    • @SueP-D
      @SueP-D Год назад +33

      Absolutely

    • @edithtierce8209
      @edithtierce8209 Год назад +87

      Exactly… Why didn’t he cal an ambulance? BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO WAIT FOR IT TO DRIVE OUT THERE THEN TURN AROUND AND GET TO THE HOSPITAL?? People have no common sense. We live out too and would not sit around waiting for an ambulance to arrive!

    • @dickfitswell3437
      @dickfitswell3437 Год назад +17

      Ask him what BUDS class he was in

    • @DreadnThis
      @DreadnThis Год назад +41

      My childhood home was in the country and we actually had a situation where 911 was called and it took 28 minutes for an ambulance to arrive.
      The County we lived in and the neighboring County were arguing about who was closer to our address and couldn't decide...
      I can drive to EITHER counties hospital in less then 20 minutes without breaking any laws..
      28 minutes just to arrive.. not make it to the emergency room.

    • @thepitpatrol
      @thepitpatrol Год назад +63

      I was in EMS for 15 years. I was always amazed at people that would wait on an ambulance instead of getting in route.

  • @dakotadazzle
    @dakotadazzle 7 месяцев назад +32

    This juror made me so damn mad. Everything she pointed out as to why they established a guilty verdict was crap. No proof it was him whatsoever.

  • @clarkh5390
    @clarkh5390 5 месяцев назад +25

    She wasn’t afraid of him enough to have multiple affairs. They could have very well of sent an innocent man to jail.

    • @jaysleeper264
      @jaysleeper264 4 месяца назад +2

      Multiple affairs might make one numb or cold too

    • @RichardWagner-hi4zn
      @RichardWagner-hi4zn 22 дня назад

      @@jaysleeper264 But if she has become cold, she hardly needed another affair.

  • @morganwhite2176
    @morganwhite2176 Год назад +222

    It’s scary that he was convicted on the point of not calling 911 but instead taking her to the hospital. Ambulances can take ages to arrive, especially in places in the middle of nowhere, maybe on his appeal they will gather more evidence that actually does prove his guilt because this isn’t enough. As far as disposition: him being ‘guilty because he looked cold’, thats another tragic judgement. When my best friend died of suicide, I didnt outwardly show emotion, everyone is different, so it was foolish of them to mark him as guilty just because of these 2 things.

    • @fionnagrey2425
      @fionnagrey2425 Год назад +5

      I would have grabbed something to stop the bleeding then called for perimedics . They could have airlifted her to the hospital.

    • @Space-Glitter
      @Space-Glitter 9 месяцев назад +5

      I think his search history had something to do with it as well....and that the cameras conveniently weren't working? Interesting.

    • @mwahha6965
      @mwahha6965 7 месяцев назад +2

      Absolutely what I thought, about the 911 call. Like they are in the country of course they need to travel. But he shouldn’t of taken the rake out

    • @romanmoralesqb1
      @romanmoralesqb1 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@Space-Glitter the cameras had not been working for weeks.

    • @DarkQueen619
      @DarkQueen619 6 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@fionnagrey2425 I'm guessing you have never been to Iowa. I have family that lives there and I've been many times. It doesn't work like that. You have to wait for the ambulance to come and then they take them to be air lifted if necessary. It Just doesn't work like that out there

  • @nikkicole3331
    @nikkicole3331 Год назад +175

    Anyone who lives in the country should be able to understand his actions which were completely appropriate, his demeanor and everything about him speaks to him being a hardworking and honorable man.

    • @kenbob1071
      @kenbob1071 6 месяцев назад +2

      LOL!! Yeah, hard-working if you consider it must have taken a lot of work to impale his wife. Don't be such a farmer fan boi.

    • @Marlaina
      @Marlaina 6 месяцев назад +4

      ​@kenbob1071 oh you have the proof. Better get yourself to Iowa to show it to the court.

    • @billmonroe8826
      @billmonroe8826 5 месяцев назад +3

      Exactly right! They jurors must not have understood agriculture at all. I don't see how they can face the people of that town!

  • @athenakvamme7550
    @athenakvamme7550 11 месяцев назад +15

    Whether he did it or not, there was reasonable doubt and I don't think there was enough evidence to convict him. I was shocked when the jury declared him guilty.

  • @kaylalynn8008
    @kaylalynn8008 10 месяцев назад +7

    I love that they’re like “cheating on your partner obviously leads to you being murdered by your partner.”

    • @RichardWagner-hi4zn
      @RichardWagner-hi4zn 22 дня назад

      No, females in the US get offed because of the divorce laws. If he didn't lose 50%, he would have just kicked her off his grounds. lol

  • @cherimitchell7973
    @cherimitchell7973 Год назад +576

    I’ve always lived in the country. I’ve been seriously hurt several times, never called 911, and drove myself to a hospital. I’ve also gotten up and fallen again on one of those accidents. I’ve also been a private investigator that investigated murders and I can tell you that blood would have been everywhere had someone hit and killed her. I believe she fell on the corn rake because she was dizzy and was then injured so badly that she fell on the rake again while the rake was still partially stuck in her back, causing more punctures than four. An innocent man has been unjustly convicted. There was more than reasonable doubt.

    • @OH2TNMOMof5
      @OH2TNMOMof5 Год назад +57

      Perfectly reflects all of my thoughts! Raised on a farm, 30 miles away from the nearest hospital, when we had injuries, it was immediately into the truck, race to town to the hospital. This was a travesty of injustice upon Mr. Mullis. I hope the Innocence Project can dig into this!

    • @RB01.10
      @RB01.10 Год назад

      You don’t *ever* remove the impaled object from the person, let alone move them!
      And this idiot did both.
      Let’s not forget his Google history, which was on *his* tablet.
      Oh and his claim that the cats messed with the security system.

    • @priscillamccain1626
      @priscillamccain1626 Год назад +5

      Well, after all, it is Iowa

    • @z_ed
      @z_ed Год назад +31

      When they brought up the 6 punctures, that was my thinking. She may have fallen again...

    • @missyallen9743
      @missyallen9743 Год назад +26

      Yes! That is exactly what I think happened and is what I've thought since watching the trial live. Fact, she was dizzy. Having recently had a surgery of some sort. She walks into a storage barn/shed on a farm. Of course it's going to have everyday farm implements and other items in with the pet carrier. She walks in and gets dizzy, she falls back into the rake twines. She is hurt, bleeding and a nurse. She knows how bad she is hurt and knows she has to move herself. She pulls herself off and now the blood loss on top of being dizzy and she falls back into it. I've lived in the country my entire life in the country and this is totally in the realm of possibility.

  •  Год назад +287

    "We found him guilty beyond reasonable doubt because we couldn't explain how else she might have died." What a sense of duty! This trial is flawed in its entirety. The jury did not understand that putting a possibly innocent man behind bars for life is far worse than letting a criminal out.

    • @notsobasicbecki658
      @notsobasicbecki658 Год назад +17

      Exactly! They don't understand how it works. They have to prove he did it....not could she have died another way? This is such a ridiculous trial.

    • @daniellevera3020
      @daniellevera3020 Год назад +3

      my exact thoughts.

    • @annaw2909
      @annaw2909 Год назад +10

      and at the end the kids dont have a father either 🤦‍♀

    • @sherriianiro747
      @sherriianiro747 Год назад +16

      This is what happens when the jury is not informed by the court what their job is and how the law works. It's reasonable doubt - it's not CSI where there has to be proof. He did not get a fair trial in my book, especially his attorney telling the jury Amy was murdered case in point.

    • @angeleyes3396
      @angeleyes3396 Год назад +5

      I cringed when he said that like what!! Evidence doesn’t even conclude that why put that in jury’s mind

  • @Lianoth
    @Lianoth 9 месяцев назад +8

    I feel so bad for him. I don't think he should have been found guilty, there wasn't enough evidence that he had done anything. Things like this bother me. Unless there is 100% evidence that proves he did it, I don't think he should have been convicted.

  • @josephmatthews7698
    @josephmatthews7698 4 месяца назад +3

    If were gonna talk about emotion i dont know how anyone can hear that 911 call and not hear a man desperately trying to save someone he loves life.

  • @faithachildoftheonetruegod
    @faithachildoftheonetruegod Год назад +462

    Dude this BREAKS my heart! The other guy had more motive he'd lose his family that he so badly didnt want to lose!

    • @erickanew
      @erickanew Год назад +7

      The other guy didn't do it. The husband would've got off if the so called cameras didn't break

    • @Emma-Rose
      @Emma-Rose Год назад +3

      I agree I believe The guy Amy was having an affair with murdered her.

    • @whitefreeman5798
      @whitefreeman5798 Год назад +9

      @No have you ever left the house without your cell phone

    • @baddie1shoe
      @baddie1shoe Год назад +1

      I think he is lying. He’s doing a little too much

    • @PowerandLuxury
      @PowerandLuxury Год назад +3

      @@whitefreeman5798 I did many times.

  • @scentlessapprentice88
    @scentlessapprentice88 Год назад +365

    This man got railroaded straight up. Get him a new trial. His lawyer was so bad. And the prosecution had such a weak case that it comes down to a whisper on a phone call? Are you kidding me? This is outrageous. Someone needs to help this man.

    • @Everettel
      @Everettel Год назад

      He got exactly what he deserved, he's 100% guilty.

    • @evelynbarrios434
      @evelynbarrios434 Год назад +2

      He looks guilty

    • @storytimeisallthetime2120
      @storytimeisallthetime2120 Год назад +27

      @@evelynbarrios434 phsyical qualities do not determine a persons guilty vs not guilty. evidence does. i hope you never have to be judged based on your appearance.

    • @siemniak
      @siemniak Год назад +16

      @@evelynbarrios434 how so ? For me he looks not guilty 100 %. And that's why you need prove more than judging someone by the way they behave.

    • @martyg2333
      @martyg2333 Год назад

      @evelynbarrios434,
      I hope you never get asked to be on a jury. What an ignorant comment. He looks guilty. Really? You know what a guilty person looks like? There’s a standard guilty and not guilty look? That’s interesting can you provide a link to an image where I can view this guilty and not guilty standard look we all have as human beings that we use to put people in prison? Oh that’s right we aren’t that insane to put someone’s entire life in the hands of “well he looks guilty”.
      Lack of emotion for a woman that cheated on him not once but twice, and literally having the court confirm the 2nd affair right there in court - so he found out on the fly. Wow I can’t believe he wasn’t bawling his eyes out for this incredibly faithful woman! What a monster he is. His lack of emotion must mean he’s guilty.
      🤦‍♂️

  • @bigdaddychud
    @bigdaddychud 4 месяца назад +4

    Good lord, based on this report. there is so much REASONABLE Doubt, makes me sick they only took 7 hours to convict.

  • @wandaeaton6106
    @wandaeaton6106 8 месяцев назад +6

    Our Justice System doesn't work all the time. There's people in prison who are innocent and guilty people still walking around. This is very sad! 😞

  • @oliviasmith9033
    @oliviasmith9033 Год назад +542

    I'm horrified by what that juror said about him being 'cold'. I was on a jury a while ago and we were so careful to avoid making snap judgements like that. Whether or not he did it, I'm appalled that they managed to find him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt based on what the prosecution presented.

    • @emb5048
      @emb5048 Год назад +8

      They said that after being specifically asked in an interview. It was an impression. It doesn't mean that's why they convicted him.

    • @dandabash
      @dandabash Год назад +22

      The prosecution didn’t prove even close to the standard “beyond a reasonable doubt” this was an appalling miscarriage of injustice

    • @TryMeMrsRabbit40
      @TryMeMrsRabbit40 11 месяцев назад +6

      They go off of body language duh when the main suspect take the stand you don't think their reading him/her . Being a prior juror i thought you would know that

    • @topshgggrrr5577
      @topshgggrrr5577 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@TryMeMrsRabbit40 Are u a body language expert?

    • @luanasam1215
      @luanasam1215 11 месяцев назад

      Exactly

  • @SuperChrismj
    @SuperChrismj Год назад +784

    The jury system is extremely flawed. I honestly don’t think they understand the magnitude of finding some guilty with no real evidence or proof .

    • @GGuinn100
      @GGuinn100 Год назад +13

      Agreed

    • @TentinQuarantino_
      @TentinQuarantino_ Год назад +40

      As long as we pay jurors a pittance, expect them to take weeks off, and excuse every person who is smart enough to lie or express some reason they can’t or shouldn’t serve, we’re always going to have the least intelligent people on the planet serving as jurors.
      They system needs an overhaul that respects jurors time and costs.

    • @jjwoelkers7954
      @jjwoelkers7954 Год назад +7

      I sooooo agree!!!

    • @elizagrogan9454
      @elizagrogan9454 Год назад +14

      @Tentin Quarantino Where I live, we receive fully paid holidays, illness and jury duty time. We also have paid time off in the case of death of a family member. I've served on a jury. 8 of us had full time jobs and University degrees. We were all paid expenses for travel to and from court. We were given healthy lunches and snacks for breaks. That ensures a good and efficient jury, with nobody being disadvantaged by serving. Even the 2 smokers had a special room to use. I see it as my duty to serve on juries, if called.

    • @SueP-D
      @SueP-D Год назад +36

      I believe there is a reasonable chance that he’s not guilty

  • @noemigonzalez449
    @noemigonzalez449 4 месяца назад +6

    I don’t think he had a fair trial. His legal team is garbage. I’m saddened for the children. 😢

  • @joynicholson1524
    @joynicholson1524 10 месяцев назад +18

    This definitely seems like an accident. If he supposedly hit her twice with that thing…wouldn’t there be 8 holes? This is what would give me reasonable doubt if I was a juror. Also, wouldn’t the child have heard her screaming if someone was about to hit her with that thing?

    • @johnhepp
      @johnhepp 19 дней назад +2

      One of the end prongs missed her, so just 3 prongs punctured her for each hit. I think she fainted and fell on the 3 prongs, and while removing the rake, she fell on the 3 prongs again on a slightly different angle due to pain and loss of blood.

  • @Peace-lr7mt
    @Peace-lr7mt Год назад +1040

    How they found him guilty is incredible.

    • @mariamaria2751
      @mariamaria2751 Год назад +93

      If they couldn't convict Casey Anthony , they sure AF could not convict him .

    • @doctorvannostrand
      @doctorvannostrand Год назад +36

      Gimme a break. Those internet searches are enough proof. Just those.

    • @showbread9366
      @showbread9366 Год назад +37

      Lol who else who randomly pitchfork her without a trace or any motive

    • @doctorshell7118
      @doctorshell7118 Год назад +12

      I agree. It’s enough to put you off of juries.

    • @doctorshell7118
      @doctorshell7118 Год назад +51

      @Danang Alta body language isn’t evidence.

  • @oceanstaiga5928
    @oceanstaiga5928 Год назад +531

    That’s a case where I don’t understand how anyone would not see reasonable doubt. There is no way in my eyes they proved that the husband did it,

    • @03817
      @03817 Год назад +34

      There is a lot of doubt in my mind. Internet search: could have been done by the actual cheating wife.
      Living at a far away farm, I , as well, would have take my close one and make a call from the car , to speed up the rode to the hospital. In highly stressful situations, human beings often make illogical decisions.

    • @marjnussby8305
      @marjnussby8305 Год назад +30

      Have to agree.
      I also think they twisted the son's words. If someone goes to the restroom, or for water, as he did, you don't see the other person during that time, but you would notice if they took longer than usual.. The narrator even said there was not enough time for dad to get there and back. This was not brought out at trial. Sad.

    • @janetpattison8474
      @janetpattison8474 Год назад +7

      Circumstantial evidence determined his fate, and there was a lot of it. 😢 So incredibly sad for everyone, especially the poor kids.

    • @QuicksandontheTrail
      @QuicksandontheTrail Год назад +5

      Exactly. Insane.

    • @no_peace
      @no_peace Год назад +13

      I don't think it matters whether he did it or not given the information, they didn't and cannot prove it

  • @corruptduboiscountyindiana5058
    @corruptduboiscountyindiana5058 3 месяца назад +4

    i dont know if he did it or not, but this case had zero proof of guilt. Thats why so many innocent people rot in prison, is because of corrupt prosecutors who rely on the jury being a bunch of drama dummies

  • @gabrielletanner5339
    @gabrielletanner5339 6 месяцев назад +4

    I've stepped on rakes a few times when I was younger and they have a habit of wobbling and getting you again.

  • @janicescott7338
    @janicescott7338 Год назад +418

    I honestly don’t know about this one but usually in the 911 call you can tell but in this one Todd sounded real and as far as him taking her into ER that was faster than waiting for an ambulance.

    • @meldutton4370
      @meldutton4370 Год назад +27

      I agree. That phone call sounded legit

    • @no_peace
      @no_peace Год назад +17

      I don't think it sounds great for him personally, it makes me hesitant to defend him, but regardless that isn't what guiltiness is based on and they didn't prove anything. I don't understand how he was convicted

    • @janicescott7338
      @janicescott7338 Год назад +5

      @@no_peace I know what you mean. Realistically it doesn’t seem like an accident, so who had a motive? Her record of committing adultery could of pushed him over the edge. The literature looked up on the internet was not good. I’m going to watch this again I think.

    • @RecoveryChad
      @RecoveryChad Год назад +17

      In rural areas you throw people in a truck first and call 911 on the way. Its much much faster and then generally you meet an ambulance. Thats normal even back in the day before cell phones only difference you drove or flew to the hospital.

    • @macpac3803
      @macpac3803 Год назад +5

      I absolutely agree not to mention a lot of times in the country paramedics & firefighters are volunteer and can be very slow or not the rite fit for the job,

  • @hezzi3283
    @hezzi3283 Год назад +222

    The fact that the accident angle, when both father and son said she was getting dizzy, wasn't explored is baffling

    • @rosemarie7816
      @rosemarie7816 Год назад +12

      Agreed. ✔

    • @MLGPRO-dx8fg
      @MLGPRO-dx8fg Год назад +21

      Over exerting yourself when you're weak or sick can easily have you black out and fall over. I've both witnessed this and been victim of it

    • @hezzi3283
      @hezzi3283 Год назад +2

      @@MLGPRO-dx8fg truth

    • @ciaranlynam2456
      @ciaranlynam2456 Год назад

      Six holes in her with a 4 prong fork ? Some accident!

    • @hezzi3283
      @hezzi3283 Год назад +2

      @@ciaranlynam2456 stranger things have happened

  • @MariaWelsh-lu6fg
    @MariaWelsh-lu6fg 5 месяцев назад +28

    I cannot believe this jury could come up with a 100% guilty verdict. Where is the evidence? Where?!. There is none! That's crazy.

    • @tamitribbiani7907
      @tamitribbiani7907 4 месяца назад +2

      Well there are the internet searches, they were pretty suspicious.

    • @jacyg.3073
      @jacyg.3073 Месяц назад +1

      And the cats were cold and turned off the video recording, Sure.

  • @joefillicetti1165
    @joefillicetti1165 11 месяцев назад +8

    I just watched an episode where the husband had all the evidence against him and proven beyond a reasonable doubt and he got 25 years! How does this guy get life when there's no proof beyond a reasonable doubt??

    • @Moonglow23
      @Moonglow23 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yep. That was a harsh sentence indeed. Maybe a retrial?

  • @skipmullen7047
    @skipmullen7047 Год назад +533

    I watched the entire trial. I think when she fell, by reflex she attempted to get up and then fell again. The prosecutor also accused him of saying something derogatory to her while performing CPR and having 911 on the line. I listened to the recording manny times and could not come close to that accusation. I couldn’t vote him guilty if I was on the jury.

    • @marianmartin9441
      @marianmartin9441 Год назад +12

      ditto

    • @XOX74
      @XOX74 Год назад +9

      Moi aussi!

    • @sarahlocatelli8691
      @sarahlocatelli8691 Год назад +27

      I think so too, she fell and then tried to push up and fell back on the fork. Other scratches came from the fall.

    • @janicescott7338
      @janicescott7338 Год назад +24

      It was odd to me when he became frustrated I think while doing CPR and sorta yelled at her to breathe, but I think it was his way of processing she just wasn’t going to be resuscitated and he was upset. Being mad at a loved one for leaving you is a normal part of grieving. I’m not taking up for this guy because this one has me perplexed but I sorta don’t think this was an accident.

    • @helenmcdonnell2585
      @helenmcdonnell2585 Год назад +11

      @@janicescott7338 he's a good act, but I believe he planned and executed this, because he didn't want to lose the farm. He will reap what he sowed.

  • @karena6642
    @karena6642 Год назад +164

    I can’t believe the nail in the coffin was him not calling 911 and internet searches. I live in a very rural area and the nearest hospital is 40 minutes away. It’s extremely common for people in rural areas to either not call 911 and transport the injured person themselves, or call 911 on their way. We’ve had to call an ambulance before and it took them almost as long to get to our home than it did had we just drove them ourselves.
    The internet searches could have been made by anybody, especially the man she was cheating with being he worked there and probably had access to their computers. Idk if the husband did it, but they certainly shouldn’t have found him guilty. They did not prove him guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

    • @domcochise2864
      @domcochise2864 Год назад

      and what man uses pinterest to search information? most of use don't even know that that app exists.

    • @pinkpugginz
      @pinkpugginz Год назад

      todds house was 12 min away from the hospital.

    • @martyg2333
      @martyg2333 Год назад +3

      That’s how some people do things, they don’t wait they act. He acted. What I would want in an emergency too if I were hurt, unless of course it’s a neck or back injury then it’s best to not move the person until help arrives.
      The one juror said he was trying to get her away from the crime scene/farm. That’s based on an assumption, and is not enough to convict someone.

    • @Gangasudhan
      @Gangasudhan Год назад +5

      It actually makes a lot of sense for someone living rurally but 12 minutes from the hospital to rush to the hospital (i.e. assured medical attention in 12 minutes) than to risk waiting for emergency response that may be dispatched from further away.

    • @sofial434
      @sofial434 Год назад +3

      Depending on the situation calling on the way is your best bet if you need immediate help. It's fairly common in rural areas to do that. You can meet EMTs halfway but people should know not to remove objects if stabbed. In the moment he might not have realized it would slow her bleeding and ideally should've left the rake in her and put her in the car. Then drove while calling 911 on the way.

  • @Erin-uz2gf
    @Erin-uz2gf 8 месяцев назад +10

    Wow, life without the possibility of parole! I was surprised to hear that verdict. It seems like there were a lot of holes, or things left out, maybe we just didn't hear them in this broadcast. Call me crazy but I could see why he would have put her in the car and started driving before calling 911. You would be in such a state of shock to find your loved one in such a condition, and you just want to get her the hell to the hospital! It's like the instinct to pull something out of your skin even though it will make you bleed faster. You almost do it without thinking, because you just want it out of you! And to say that he was without emotion or cold? Trauma and grief effects everyone differently. Maybe he did it, maybe he didn't, but something about this case felt very wrong to me. It is a tragedy all around.

  • @mariaritareis439
    @mariaritareis439 2 месяца назад +3

    Poor kid… can you imagine being put in that situation? Just awful.

  • @ellieh3369
    @ellieh3369 Год назад +143

    If I was one of the jurors who was interviewed, I wouldn’t want my name released either. Those jurors sent a man to prison without adequate proof. Terrible injustice to him and his children.

    • @RB01.10
      @RB01.10 Год назад +5

      Oh I’d say there’s enough proof.
      The Google searches, and blaming the cats for knocking over the security system are pretty damning.
      Also, the fact he didn’t follow proper protocol in *not* removing an object from a person, as well as moving an injured person. Two big no no’s.
      That’s negligence as well.

    • @fastfed
      @fastfed Год назад +12

      ​@@RB01.10you must live in Los Angeles. Most of the country is not in areas where help is 10 minutes away. As for Google searches, those are probably taken way out of context

    • @RB01.10
      @RB01.10 Год назад +4

      @@fastfed And removing the object?
      Anyone should know that's a big no no.

    • @ScreamingEagleFTW
      @ScreamingEagleFTW Год назад

      @@fastfed na he lives in make believe world.

    • @ScreamingEagleFTW
      @ScreamingEagleFTW Год назад +2

      @@RB01.10 ​ @ryanblanche1726 you are the problem. you think with your feelings.

  • @gamingpriests
    @gamingpriests Год назад +167

    Given that she was extremely paranoid about him finding out (evident by her telling literally everybody), the internet searches can be explained perfectly by her own sense of guilt and paranoia. The cameras weren't working for weeks. Where is a single piece of even circumstantial evidence?

  • @ici_coop
    @ici_coop 7 месяцев назад +3

    Jesus this system. Assumptions are not evidence. The whole thing should be turned over due to jurors making psychological guesses not based on evidence. Frightening.
    Poor family.

  • @Stiasteny
    @Stiasteny 10 месяцев назад +2

    It's fair to say that her friends did not like Todd. All things they said are not nuanced and seemed to "want to see someone behind bars" for her passing, even if it were an accident or not.

  • @MusbCrazy80
    @MusbCrazy80 Год назад +361

    Wow they found this guy guilty but people couldnt find a way of making casey anthony guilty as she was.
    The american justice system is shocking

    • @alexlim1275
      @alexlim1275 Год назад +7

      Well Casey had one of the best attorney in the country tho. That’s what helped her

    • @swallowedinthesea11
      @swallowedinthesea11 Год назад +1

      America is a joke! Trade one of the most dangerous arms dealer for a basketball player.

    • @MusbCrazy80
      @MusbCrazy80 Год назад +5

      @@swallowedinthesea11 yeah id say thats more a democrat issue but yeah i agree.

    • @jimwerther
      @jimwerther Год назад +11

      @@MusbCrazy80
      Apples and oranges
      Two different cases in two different jurisdictions

    • @lynnhathaway3755
      @lynnhathaway3755 Год назад +12

      @@alexlim1275 Didn't she drive around for a week with the body of her child in the car?

  • @MaulinR
    @MaulinR Год назад +816

    The fact that there was no evidence and they still found him guilty is insane. The jurors go it wrong

    • @pchaparala
      @pchaparala 11 месяцев назад +44

      there was plenty of evidence, but very little physical evidence because he tampered with it, there was also no physical evidence pointing to anyone else

    • @LanaAndJen
      @LanaAndJen 11 месяцев назад +36

      I remember when I first heard this case it was explained how it could have been an accident and it made complete sense. I totally believe this was a freak accident

    • @Poochielou
      @Poochielou 11 месяцев назад +5

      So he's guilty

    • @mrchill2724
      @mrchill2724 11 месяцев назад

      Fr

    • @e.sterling141
      @e.sterling141 11 месяцев назад +16

      ??? There was all kinds of circumstancial evidence, which in the eyes of US law is just as weighted as physical evidence.

  • @BlessedChild7
    @BlessedChild7 9 месяцев назад +8

    This is a very disturbing case. He didn't get a fair trial at all. His legal team and the jury didn't do a thorough job. To think that Todd is facing a life sentence because some people felt that he was emotionless is scary. I personally think there's more here to be explored. I just hope he gets a retrial. Phew!!!!!

  • @timmellin2815
    @timmellin2815 7 месяцев назад +3

    I think tons of reasonable doubt, and that the jurors speculated about why he pulled over, why he removed the fork...and he seemed a cold fish....that's all speculation and feelings, and jurors are not supposed to do that. Yikes.

    • @timmellin2815
      @timmellin2815 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yes...the jurors were judging by "preponderance of evidence" instead of "reasonable doubt." If I were in that jury pool I would have been aggressive in reminding them about that, as we deliberated.

  • @danis4054
    @danis4054 Год назад +569

    Wow he definitely at least deserves a new trial. His lawyers did not represent him correctly at all. 😳

    • @yvie9627
      @yvie9627 Год назад +29

      I don’t believe he killed her, I believe it was an accident that she fell.

    • @danis4054
      @danis4054 Год назад +10

      @@yvie9627 yeah…😟 it seems like it could have been.

    • @daliakuwait
      @daliakuwait Год назад +15

      I agree with you 💯. Unfortunately, a lawyer can sleep through 25% of a trial and STILL somehow be deemed "effective" by an appeals court (and yes, that was a real case). For anyone interested, look up "ineffective assistance of counsel appeals" to check out just how difficult it is to prove that counsel was ineffective. For every 1,000 appeals, maybe it gets proven one time. Absurd.

    • @justajeepgirlandherdogs
      @justajeepgirlandherdogs Год назад +15

      My first question, if you were worried about your wife, why would you ask her to make any extra trips on the way to the house at all? Especially something so easy for you or your son to do? Why would you put her in danger at all. She should have been going straight to the house. And, why would you send your son to check on your mom if you didn't see the pet carrier? Wouldn't you say something like, "looks like mom forgot carrier, can you go get it". Why would you say, check on mom if you had given her the option to even get the carrier. If it does seem right. It's not. Jury was correct.

    • @pinkpugginz
      @pinkpugginz Год назад +4

      he killed her

  • @johntravolvo9830
    @johntravolvo9830 Год назад +237

    What I find baffling is that there was no blood splatter found , neither on the husband or where the wife was found. In my view you can’t brutally impale someone and there be no trace on you whatsoever. Just doesnt make sense

    • @lisawentworth6831
      @lisawentworth6831 Год назад +17

      what also doesn't make sense to me is, if she stumbled and the rake came through her back, why was she laying on her front? And why six holes, not four? Really sounds like someone attacked her from behind, and clearly the dad had an alibi with the son...

    • @daliakuwait
      @daliakuwait Год назад +1

      Agreed 💯

    • @paulincia27
      @paulincia27 Год назад +1

      @@theone1681 even if the bleeding will be internal there is no chance that after skin get punctured blood won't appear, maybe if the rake was left in her then yes. Other then that only if she was already dead before being stab.

    • @paulincia27
      @paulincia27 Год назад +7

      @@theone1681 clean hands can be explained by the length of the rake handle, so that's not surprising as it's definitely longer then a knife.

    • @jwilcox4726
      @jwilcox4726 Год назад +6

      When you don't have investigators collecting evidence & detectives requesting investigators what to collect and how to also you get what you get. We need legistation passed to support police academy's for all deputies/sheriff's to learn police work before doing ANY investigations/detective work EVER without the correct training & knowledge. Period.

  • @LizzyDidntDoIt
    @LizzyDidntDoIt 8 месяцев назад +8

    When I was in 5th grade there was a corn rake propped up in the school gym. We had free play that day and this boy ran into the rake and when it fell he tripped over it and the corn rake stabbed into his thigh. all forks, straight in. I
    Really don’t believe this man is guilty.

    • @jacyg.3073
      @jacyg.3073 Месяц назад +3

      And how many times did this boy fall on a rake???? Oops I shot myself, oh darn it, I shot myself again. Give me that knife, oops I stabbed myself, ah crap I stabbed myself again. Come on people! This isn't a looney toons cartoon!!

  • @user-ru9gf7ky2y
    @user-ru9gf7ky2y 11 месяцев назад +3

    His reaction when she said "todd isnt someone to mess with"... that is a wrap there!

  • @Matt1N1
    @Matt1N1 Год назад +112

    I had a loved one pass away many years ago by falling on a object impaling them, and getting up to go get help, and immediately falling again. Impaling them again. Was on security footage. I immediately thought of this when hearing this case.

    • @firebird4240
      @firebird4240 Год назад +8

      What a shame the cameras in this case were only operational the next day..

    • @tiffanym4202
      @tiffanym4202 Год назад +7

      That's what I think happened.

    • @clareshaughnessy2745
      @clareshaughnessy2745 Год назад +3

      It’s what I thought straight away

    • @jenniferrose3653
      @jenniferrose3653 Год назад +1

      That crazy! I'm so sorry for your loss.

    • @carolv8450
      @carolv8450 Год назад +1

      @@tiffanym4202 me too! Enough doubt.

  • @LilMOMMAson
    @LilMOMMAson Год назад +96

    The son’s testimony alone provides a substantial amount of reasonable doubt. The jury should have acquitted this man.

    • @RB01.10
      @RB01.10 Год назад +1

      What did him in was the Google searches, as well as his silly explanation of saying the cameras were knocked over because of the cats.
      Also, anyone with half a brain should know you never remove a punctured object from a person, as that can worsen the injury and cause more bleeding.
      They also moved her in general, which is also a bad idea. You don’t ever move an injured person as that too can worsen their condition.

    • @LilMOMMAson
      @LilMOMMAson Год назад +2

      @@RB01.10 it would be reasonable to think that cats could knock down cameras and a person might remove an object when panicking. *Reasonable* Doubt seems to be a concept that's difficult for you to understand.

    • @RB01.10
      @RB01.10 Год назад

      @@LilMOMMAson Let’s not forget those Google searches were done on *his* computer.
      Also, no. I’m sorry, I’ve known forever that removing an object like they did is the wrong thing to do.
      If anything, he’s in prison for pure negligence because of his reckless actions.
      That’s why many people are in prison anyway. Because they didn’t think things though, and acted in the heat of the moment .

    • @macethorns1168
      @macethorns1168 2 месяца назад +1

      @@RB01.10 "heat of the moment" they were literally all working in the pig barn that morning.

    • @KingsDaughter1957
      @KingsDaughter1957 8 дней назад

      @@macethorns1168 Great point

  • @holland151
    @holland151 7 месяцев назад +2

    "Why didn't he call 911" Well, as someone who was born and raised in Iowa and lived in the country, allow me to give an example. My dad had a heart attack in front of me. I called 911, and the ambulance took half an hour to arrive. I could have driven him to the hospital in 10 to 15 minutes. On top of that, it cost me $1000 for the ambulance ride that turned out to be a waste of time.
    Are we sure he got a jury made up of people that live in that county cause this doesn't make Iowans look good.

  • @rajatmahajan84
    @rajatmahajan84 10 месяцев назад +4

    Even 8k miles away in India, I find his conviction baffling. He could have done it, but based on this episode the prosecution did not prove it beyond reasonable doubt. He had a relatively strong Alibi and no witness or no forensic proof against him. Not sure what the Jury was smoking to reach a conclusion that he was guilty!!

  • @escapewithsarah9566
    @escapewithsarah9566 11 месяцев назад +342

    There is little to no evidence that Todd did this.
    As SOON as the son said she was having dizzy spells that day I immediately put together what could have happened and it baffles me that nobody thought of this.
    This could have easily been accidental.
    Ex: she went into the red shed, while trying to get the cat box she got dizzy and fell on the corn rake, tried to pick herself up but fell again.
    Also, if she would have been “hit” 3 times wouldn’t we have 12 stab wounds? Instead of 6?
    Also, I think the friends are exaggerating a little. You can never rely on word of mouth, people like to twist things around to make it fit.
    I think she was cheating, looked up what happens to cheating wives.
    This whole case is a joke.

    • @hannahlowe794
      @hannahlowe794 7 месяцев назад +40

      I thought of her falling a second time, too.

    • @flt528
      @flt528 6 месяцев назад +21

      LOL, your insanely far-fetched theory reminds me of "The Staircase," where the murderer's defense attorneys claimed that she had several slashes on the back of her head because she slipped and fell backward on the stairs, slashed her head open on the corner of the doorframe and bled everywhere, then got up and slipped in her own pool of blood, falling backward and slashing her head again on the doorframe, creating an even bigger pool of blood, which she stood up in and slipped and fell backward again, slashing her head of the corner of the doorframe an unbelievable third time!
      accidentally

    • @coryc9040
      @coryc9040 6 месяцев назад +27

      @@flt528 It's not far fetched at all. If she was attacked the wounds are just as confounding. The problem with "sleuths" like yourself is you never actually look at fatal injuries critically when there's absolutely no suspicion of foul play (maybe several witnesses or zero opportunity for foul play). What you'd find if you did this is that, unless you have a second by second video of how someone got injured, many injuries would be hard to explain after the fact.

    • @cheri7054
      @cheri7054 5 месяцев назад +11

      @escapewithsarah9566 Son is protecting his father for sure. It's a made up story. The way the rake was in her body. Seriously he committed the crime

    • @lucifer73
      @lucifer73 5 месяцев назад +4

      My thoughts exactly, especially about falling again back onto the rake.

  • @memphisslimbo9837
    @memphisslimbo9837 Год назад +150

    From what was presented in this episode, he certainly deserved to have the case re-tried

  • @SCBeatty1
    @SCBeatty1 7 месяцев назад +2

    Based on this....both the prosecution and defense did a rotten job

  • @melindaroop1346
    @melindaroop1346 Месяц назад +1

    When people live way out of town, they typically call 911 on the way to the hospital so an ambulance can meet them halfway.

  • @cindyhafley
    @cindyhafley Год назад +602

    Glad to see I’m not the only one here who thinks he didn’t do it. I hope he gets a new trial. Also, his facial expression when the friend said Todd is someone you don’t mess with cracked me up. It said to me, “Uhh I wasn’t aware I had that reputation.”lol

    • @Sonia-jk7lf
      @Sonia-jk7lf Год назад +21

      That's what I got from his impression too.

    • @thehollyberry7975
      @thehollyberry7975 Год назад +5

      I did too.

    • @ashleybucci23
      @ashleybucci23 Год назад +23

      Yeah I don't think he did. Especially if he was with his son and then the son didn't seem like he was having trouble recounting the day. Seems like he is being truthful

    • @ashleighsparkle8810
      @ashleighsparkle8810 Год назад

      Lady you are some kind of dumb.

    • @diplomamilldoc8562
      @diplomamilldoc8562 Год назад +16

      So she managed to fall on the rake twice to get the six stab wounds?

  • @nonyjerome6996
    @nonyjerome6996 Год назад +375

    This is the first case that made me felt no justice to the husband without watching the whole story,.. Felt very sad not only for the lost and also for the fate of the husband and the children

    • @Tattooednjgirl
      @Tattooednjgirl Год назад +4

      I couldn't agree more!

    • @vmurphy929
      @vmurphy929 Год назад +1

      Agreed

    • @danielholt6741
      @danielholt6741 Год назад

      A corn rake with 4 tines but 6 holes in her back... There is your answer.

    • @Worthless_Toaster
      @Worthless_Toaster Год назад +13

      Exactly. After being cheated on, he got locked in prison after his wife died. This is no fair.

    • @ScreamingEagleFTW
      @ScreamingEagleFTW Год назад +4

      @@Worthless_Toaster probly an accident. They even said she was having dizzy spells. Thats reasonable doubt right there.

  • @dana2708
    @dana2708 10 дней назад +2

    He definitely did it! What a heartless father to put his young son through the trauma….😰

  • @jeremylamovsky9868
    @jeremylamovsky9868 9 месяцев назад +3

    If you live in BFE, there's a strong possibility EMTs won't get there for a while and the nearest hospital might be a good ways away. I don't see her husband calling after putting her in a truck being all that suspicious. Idk how this ends, but two thirds of the way through it doesn't look good for Todd. And wtf, he tells his wife to get something out of the red shed. He doesn't see what she was asked to.get. doesn't seem totally unreasonable to ask your kid to check the place he asked his wife to go. Again idk how it ends, but this guy's wife fooled around on him to begin with, and because of that it's HIS character that's brought into question.

  • @justme9666
    @justme9666 Год назад +348

    This is so ridiculous 🙄. And I've read that appeal was also denied. How insane that those 12 jurors sent a man for life in prison without any physical forensic evidence 😳. I hope his family will fight for him and he gets released, or at least new beyond reasonable doubts evidence occurs.
    Horrible honestly, I feel this man had completely unjust trial

    • @maryam8866
      @maryam8866 Год назад +1

      are you dumb? he is guilty af

    • @juliareguragui7469
      @juliareguragui7469 Год назад +1

      It is America if it was in Europe they follow rules he wouldn't have been even gone to trial because their is no evidence nothing.but again this is America where a real criminal goes away because he had very good lawyer.

    • @pinkpugginz
      @pinkpugginz Год назад

      There was tons of evidence did you even read through the transcript

    • @massivepump3059
      @massivepump3059 Год назад +11

      Just how the feminist want it

    • @sasha_markovsky
      @sasha_markovsky Год назад

      @@massivepump3059 thats bullsh*t. Nothing to do with feminism. No matter what we think, there was really no solid evidence. I am not on his side, but I also can't understand on what legal basis did they incarcerate him.

  • @rusticlife7149
    @rusticlife7149 Год назад +433

    By the end of most of these cases, I’m happy to see justice served. This case leaves a lot of questions and I’m not confident the jury got this one right 😢

    • @josephBo
      @josephBo Год назад +31

      I feel like everyone on the jury forgot their objective. "GUILTY BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT". EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHER has their doubts on this case.
      It very well could be that he killed her, but the only question a jury needs to answer time and time again is, "IS HE GUILTY BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT?"
      I swear even the judge forgot. It's not about justice, it's not about revenge, it's not even about doing the right thing, it's about preventing sending someone who MIGHT be innocent to jail. Not about finding justice for her "killer" if there even was one. Does all the evidence point to this man being a murderer? Maybe a little? But not all? Then don't send him to jail.

    • @slabbusterrtr7690
      @slabbusterrtr7690 Год назад +7

      I agree 100%

    • @slabbusterrtr7690
      @slabbusterrtr7690 Год назад +10

      @@josephBo yep I don't think he did it

    • @pamhales5753
      @pamhales5753 Год назад +11

      I have to agree, I was surprised they didn’t even consider an accident.

    • @tonyaduncan4351
      @tonyaduncan4351 Год назад +10

      Same. I wonder if there is an update or if he was able to appeal.

  • @flyfaraway9987
    @flyfaraway9987 7 месяцев назад +6

    OMG. How could this end up like this. Life in prison without any chances of parole? Well I think he married the wrong girl. Cheated him twice and without any evidence he go to jail rest of his life!

    • @RichardWagner-hi4zn
      @RichardWagner-hi4zn 22 дня назад

      After divorce he would have lost his farm anyway. This way, at least health care is free. And he might find out he is a woman and change prison. lol

  • @Dreyden-
    @Dreyden- 8 месяцев назад +3

    WTF is wrong with that Jury. This was straight up B.S., were they paid off?

  • @torrevillanueva5583
    @torrevillanueva5583 Год назад +126

    I have a very close friend who was going through marital problems like most people but last summer he tripped while working in his yard and fell full body force on garden sheers and they punctured his chest and missed his heart by three centimeters ! He almost died that day I'm glad he's alive and was able to tell his story

    • @ScreamingEagleFTW
      @ScreamingEagleFTW Год назад +18

      ua they might have blamed you because the neighbor heard you arguing about football 2 years ago.

    • @divulgedspirit
      @divulgedspirit 3 месяца назад

      Crazy and true​@@ScreamingEagleFTW

    • @jacyg.3073
      @jacyg.3073 Месяц назад +1

      And how many times did he fall on the garden shears?

  • @mattd3933
    @mattd3933 Год назад +77

    This guy couldn't have been more genuine and real, the system failed this gentleman he straight up got rail roaded into a guilty verdict. No direct evidence that point to him as being her attacker, this vary well could have been a rare bizarre accident. This man deserves a new trial and defense team!!

    • @sinatra222
      @sinatra222 8 месяцев назад +1

      You got hoodwinked. He's guilty as sin.

  • @BlissfulMisanthrope
    @BlissfulMisanthrope 8 месяцев назад +4

    This is an innocent guy if not an hastily convicted husband & father convicted based on mere perception of emotions backed by filthy corrupt defense team of his.
    What I felt for him was a silent melancholy and absolute helplessness.

  • @SaltyChamp
    @SaltyChamp 11 дней назад +1

    Glad the juror understands farmer’s emotions so well……
    Not guilty.

  • @JR-dp1ej
    @JR-dp1ej Год назад +164

    It's kind of scary that one can be sent to prison for life even in the face of massive doubt 😮

    • @evasalcedo9182
      @evasalcedo9182 Год назад +21

      Our justice system is a joke. All they care about is keeping them jails full.

    • @Janellabelle
      @Janellabelle Год назад +9

      Yea, for me this case leaves plenty of reasonable doubt he's innocent, and for nearly everyone here. I don't see one comment saying they feel beyond a reasonable doubt he's guilty. it's like the jury decided to find him guilty unless they had absolutely no doubt he was innocent which IS very scary.

  • @kayrobbsmua6716
    @kayrobbsmua6716 Год назад +142

    My great grandmother had a brain aneurysm while gardening and feel on a rake. Unfortunately, it stabbed her in the neck. My uncle had just arrived home and found her and thought someone murdered her. Very sad case

  • @florencewilson4709
    @florencewilson4709 3 месяца назад +3

    I'm not sold on his guilt. Too much doubt, and lack of evidence.

  • @abbybahre8039
    @abbybahre8039 7 месяцев назад +2

    I think the son should’ve been interrogated as a possible suspect.
    I feel like the husband truly sounded worried for his wife. I don’t think it’s unreasonable he immediately sprung into action rather than dialing 911.
    One point I did want to make is, the defense mentioned Pinterest being googled on the family iPad, and alluding that the husband wouldn’t be searching anything on that app.
    Well, I copied the URL for the Pinterest search and it brings you to a photo with the words “once you hunt man, you will always have the thirst.” It was a quote whoever using the iPad at that time was trying to find. It also has a picture of a wolf.
    I would be very curious to know if Trysten had a fascination with wolves around that time. And I also wonder if there was any DNA testing on the iPad to see if the lover’s DNA would be on it. Maybe he planted searches.
    Sadly, with the evidence presented in this video, I don’t believe there’s enough firm evidence to convict anyone. I really hope the right person is in prison.

  • @brianwideman2342
    @brianwideman2342 Год назад +74

    I'm completely shocked how nowadays go to prison for a crime with absolutely zero physical evidence

    • @cradames
      @cradames Год назад +1

      Scary isn't it

    • @nd4539
      @nd4539 Год назад +3

      And yet OJ and Casey Anthony walked free

    • @NO_QUARTER_GIVEN
      @NO_QUARTER_GIVEN Год назад +1

      Welcome to the land of the free

    • @tanyabishop8058
      @tanyabishop8058 Год назад +1

      Yes and real murderers get minimum sentences.

    • @RB01.10
      @RB01.10 Год назад +2

      Yeah let’s ignore the Google searches on his tablet, and how the cats conveniently knocked over the cameras ahead of time.
      Let’s also ignore the fact he removed the object, which is a big no no.

  • @gigantastore8013
    @gigantastore8013 Год назад +107

    Wow, this is REALLY wrong. Whether he killed her or not, there was NO EVIDENCE. He should not have been found guilty. Unbelievable. That's why I have NO FAITH AT ALL WHATSOEVER in the jury system and I say it all the time. These are people - flawed and imperfect. How could they be given the responsibility of deciding someone's life? Ridiculous.

    • @PREBEE
      @PREBEE Год назад +6

      Why didn't they investigate on the woman's lovers..... Where were they?

    • @KG-th3cr
      @KG-th3cr Год назад +1

      I agree. The judge should have stepped in and declared a mistrial.

    • @rachelcurtis749
      @rachelcurtis749 Год назад

      I agree 💯

    • @gigantastore8013
      @gigantastore8013 Год назад +3

      @@mtee555 First of all we don't know if there was anyone else there. If someone else was there, they clearly didn't want it to be known. Second of all, you said it - plenty there to POINT in his direction. You're not supposed to convict someone based on circumstantial evidence that POINTS which is exactly my POINT.

    • @katiechisholm
      @katiechisholm Год назад +1

      Right. I feel like they got tired after a few hours and decided to agree to guilty so they could go home 🙄

  • @laurie4275
    @laurie4275 6 месяцев назад +2

    We live an hour from the nearest hospital. No one would call 911 and WAIT for them to come to us. We all head to town and THEN call 911. They can meet us enroute. Thats totally normal around here. I can easily envision Amy falling on the rake, attempting to extricate herself from it (son said he found her on her hands and knees), getting one side of herself lifted off just 2 tines, and then falling again, out of strength, and accounting for 6 punctures. "reasonable doubt" is there. A conviction is wrong where reasonable doubt is present.