Former homicide detective on missing Kansas moms: 'Something went wrong' | Banfield

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  • Опубликовано: 11 апр 2024
  • As police continue to investigate the case of two missing Kansas mothers, sources tell NewsNation the women were shot and blood was found near the vehicle in which they were last seen. Former homicide detective Fil Waters joins "Banfield" to discuss the latest details.
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Комментарии • 112

  • @boomerang_911
    @boomerang_911 2 месяца назад +30

    Key learning: stay away from mom‘s who have violent custody cases going on. Collateral damage.

  • @bbloodyangel1
    @bbloodyangel1 2 месяца назад +33

    According to sources the blood was on the drivers side believed to be Veronica and that Jillian tried to run as there were drag marks. Grandma is gonna catch a charge real soon.

    • @susanpurdy986
      @susanpurdy986 2 месяца назад +9

      Source?

    • @bbloodyangel1
      @bbloodyangel1 2 месяца назад +1

      @@susanpurdy986 on FB someone posted , the person apparently has a friend in LE so the blood details came out before the media reported on it , in a FB group

    • @heytam7162
      @heytam7162 2 месяца назад

      @@susanpurdy986commonsense

  • @cdcdogs4961
    @cdcdogs4961 2 месяца назад +20

    They’re not looking because they already know.

  • @SeventhSonStudios
    @SeventhSonStudios 2 месяца назад +6

    Since Kelly was one of four court authorized supervisors while Mom was with the kids, imagine what the other three are thinking now.

  • @Hof79905
    @Hof79905 2 месяца назад +7

    Fil is the #1 guest on Surviving The Survivor.

  • @LisaP-pd6nq
    @LisaP-pd6nq 2 месяца назад +10

    So sad and so unnecessary. Prayers for the women’s families and friends. Prayers especially for the 7 children who lost their mom. Lock that monster up!!!

  • @brendasmart553
    @brendasmart553 2 месяца назад +50

    Ashleigh saying ... "Gee i hope the kids werent already in that car & that theyre safe?" Is just PURE DRAMA and for a news anchor very unprofessional, as this news program has long known the kids are safe & not in the car with the 2 ladies!!! Fact.

    • @forjo7307
      @forjo7307 2 месяца назад +7

      The sensationalism of the podcasters has been disgraceful. Families are grieving for chrissakes! This homicide detective is eh.

    • @brendasmart553
      @brendasmart553 2 месяца назад +2

      @@forjo7307 EXACTLY!!

    • @Vanessa86352
      @Vanessa86352 2 месяца назад +7

      She’s the most sensational “newscaster”. All she does in spread rumors around with catchy headlines
      I hope Brian Eaton learns better or his reputation will be tarnished by her inability to present news rather rumors

    • @alisong7120
      @alisong7120 2 месяца назад +6

      You misquoted the quote. She said she knows the kids are safe but was just saying she hopes they weren't in the car when whatever happened happened. Everyone is tight lipped so they were able to get some sort of information of what happened it's just the public that's in the dark

    • @jocundswayleggiechevez.5039
      @jocundswayleggiechevez.5039 2 месяца назад

      These reporters and True Crime RUclips Grifters are desperately trying to get LE to talk, so they are drumming up all the drama.

  • @matthewwood9085
    @matthewwood9085 2 месяца назад +31

    I think Grandmother has everything to do with these women missing. I'd definitely be checking the pig farm for clothing.

    • @ShalomUSA
      @ShalomUSA 2 месяца назад +3

      Suspect #1

    • @cg6594
      @cg6594 2 месяца назад +8

      They could have removed the clothing before putting them in the pig pen. The lack of clothing shouldn’t be a definitive conclusion.

    • @feliciawells8197
      @feliciawells8197 2 месяца назад +1

      GMA is probably, definitely in charge but I'm betting she didn't get a finger dirty and was somewhere where she had an air tight alibi...

  • @jillv4006
    @jillv4006 2 месяца назад +5

    Why is News National the only ones I can find pushing for information on this? kudos to News Nation!

  • @suzieakers07
    @suzieakers07 2 месяца назад +33

    We haven’t seen ANYTHING of the Grandmother or the bio father

    • @bbloodyangel1
      @bbloodyangel1 2 месяца назад +6

      they cant be plastered without being suspects officially as it could lead to legal ramifications if the media is wrong

    • @VeeAmericanEagle
      @VeeAmericanEagle 2 месяца назад +13

      FBI is watching them for sure tho

    • @TzNuts
      @TzNuts 2 месяца назад +4

      The father was in state ran rehab for criminals . His mother is the one that killed them. It's hard to believe she was alone though. How does a middle age woman kill and move two full grown women by herself? She had help

    • @auroraheidialis
      @auroraheidialis 2 месяца назад +3

      I'm a middle aged woman who works on a ranch. I'd have little problem moving two regular sized women. Not every woman is weak..

    • @_o.0_.
      @_o.0_. 2 месяца назад

      @@auroraheidialiswere you involved in this??

  • @kde2610
    @kde2610 2 месяца назад +7

    Fil is awesome!! I love watching him, Scott, and Joel on "Surviving the Survivor" every Friday!! ❤😊

  • @archangel807
    @archangel807 2 месяца назад +6

    Rock chalk has recorded a very angry call she got from a local woman today....lots of hatred for Veronica and BS about leaving grandma alone....

    • @navajosmiles6663
      @navajosmiles6663 2 месяца назад +2

      Yep I heard it, definitely it was two people talking. Plus you could hear the second person in the background and caller sounded very angry 🙄

  • @emmagillard2151
    @emmagillard2151 2 месяца назад +2

    She seems very sweet and keen not to stray too far. She'd make a wonderful best friend / companion

  • @patriotiac572
    @patriotiac572 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for interviewing Fil. And thank you, News Nation, for keeping this story on the forefrong. Praying for justice for Veronica Butler and Jilian Kelley and their loved ones.

  • @yennefer2774
    @yennefer2774 2 месяца назад +11

    Is this a normal route that they would take? Have they been this way before? I used to live in Western Ks, those dirt roads are mainly traveled by locals

    • @JEWELZYOUTUBE
      @JEWELZYOUTUBE 2 месяца назад +2

      The story of them missing is all over the place. I can't figure it out, or if they were going to meet up with the kids or on a trip for church.. I wish the would do a whole segment on the whole story from when they went missing too now the car have been to have blood in it. But no evidence of skin tissues ... ugh this is so sad 😞

    • @bbloodyangel1
      @bbloodyangel1 2 месяца назад +9

      yes every other saturday they drove to this abandoned gas station to meet with grandma who had the kids. this was likely a targeted attack due to custody dispute.

    • @VeeAmericanEagle
      @VeeAmericanEagle 2 месяца назад +4

      They’re from different states. The ladies was driving to Oklahoma at a meetup spot at an abandoned gas station where the grandma’s family owned. Grandma is the crazy one here!

    • @susanpurdy986
      @susanpurdy986 2 месяца назад

      ​@@JEWELZRUclips yes was to meet up with the gma to pick up the children for visitation.

    • @susanpurdy986
      @susanpurdy986 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@JEWELZRUclipsNancy Grace has a segment with the whole story.

  • @joanstewart5463
    @joanstewart5463 2 месяца назад +3

    It sounds like it was a set up to meet her child it sounds like grandma that had the children my opinion

  • @tishwitch
    @tishwitch 2 месяца назад

    4 arrests after a standoff with SWAT! 😮

  • @jeffreyz8030
    @jeffreyz8030 2 месяца назад +1

    Grandma owns a Hog farm and a Slaughter house. Think Texas Chainsaw. Massacre .

  • @edwardshell1289
    @edwardshell1289 2 месяца назад +2

    Grandmother and accomplice(s), the pig farm.

  • @missthang4982
    @missthang4982 2 месяца назад +5

    Wow buddy? Something went wrong? Aren't you a genius.

  • @debrahenry1385
    @debrahenry1385 2 месяца назад

    Tragic. 😢

  • @cynicannkeel8899
    @cynicannkeel8899 2 месяца назад

    According to several nonofficial sources, there's a heavy police presence at the ranch of the child's grandmother in OK right now.
    If the sources of the 2 women's disappearances is the ex-husband and/or his mother, can't imagine what would compel them to believe they could pull this off without being tracked down and arrested within a very short period of time, and where does that leave the children- with a murdered mother, dad and grandmother in prison?
    Either being raised by a member of the mother's family, or in the foster care system.

  • @Amber-mv8wz
    @Amber-mv8wz 2 месяца назад +2

    NewsNation is quickly becoming SpeculationNation. Stirring up needless drama with that remark about the kids was just beyond low. The moment they hired Cuomo they lost major credibility points & this woman is going to destroy what's left.

    • @kbrewski1
      @kbrewski1 2 месяца назад

      Cuomo is a good journalist. Ashleigh should be Banned Field is nothing more than a TMZ level Drama Queen who makes Nancy Grace seem like Vincent Bugliosi (Manson Prosecutor for the under 45 crowd who no longer read)

  • @Juke582
    @Juke582 2 месяца назад

    Fil in the house!!!! Yay 😃
    He can’t say what he feels really occurred 😔 those ladies are not alive now. Big bummer 😢
    So sad 😭

  • @savannahbell5674
    @savannahbell5674 2 месяца назад

    We ❤ Fil!!

  • @Sherinthia7
    @Sherinthia7 2 месяца назад +1

    Yay Fil! Best guy e Dr!

  • @sissykim3975
    @sissykim3975 2 месяца назад +6

    Reminds me of the Pike County Massacre where granny wanted the kids and got the family to help her. Women can be very vindictive and controlling. Looks like the same thing here.

  • @HumilityisaVirtue
    @HumilityisaVirtue 2 месяца назад

    This sickens me to even type this, but how does one EFFECTIVELY dispose of a body in a rural area that is relatively flat? Does grandma own a hog farm or knows someone who does? Is there a remote well no one knows about?

  • @chrissbandana
    @chrissbandana 2 месяца назад +3

    Fil!💜🐾

  • @debrahenry1385
    @debrahenry1385 2 месяца назад

    Is there a river near by like Riley

  • @PippiPippi98765
    @PippiPippi98765 2 месяца назад

    Belov the surface this seems to be a little more complicated than first anticipated. I hope with all of my heart they find the 2 women a live. There's one question I struggle with, (if the following information is right, it could be wrong?). But if this is right - why would any mother, in this case Veronica Butler, not accept to keep her brother away if he SA her kids - in order for Veronica to keep custody? These kids should not have been living with their grandmother or anyone else but their mon in the first pace. It seems the fathers side of the family are disturbed in sone way or another. Terribly sad case, hope both the moms get to be with their kids again 🙏🍀❤

    • @kbrewski1
      @kbrewski1 2 месяца назад

      Obviously Mommy had serious enough issues of her own that a Court removed full/primary custody from her. For that to happen, she must have had drug issues or abuse problems. Something serious enough to lose primary custody.

  • @Griffinand3
    @Griffinand3 2 месяца назад

    I love Fil Waters! Great job!

  • @annamichaelsdottir5834
    @annamichaelsdottir5834 2 месяца назад

    Let's get everyone out to look for the ladies.
    The father can be violent and what I have heard is that his mother can be as well. Did the grandmother's involved in this.?

  • @annette2326
    @annette2326 2 месяца назад

    This is a child custody dispute?

  • @annaconda78
    @annaconda78 2 месяца назад

    The kids are safe , i hope not with the grandmother🥺

  • @tracyarchbold5052
    @tracyarchbold5052 2 месяца назад

    There’s just been an update. Check the internet. 4 people in custody

  • @carenfarmer4794
    @carenfarmer4794 2 месяца назад +3

    Doesn't the MIL have a pig farm? Well....

    • @ShalomUSA
      @ShalomUSA 2 месяца назад +4

      The g-ma's boyfriend reportedly does.

    • @kbrewski1
      @kbrewski1 2 месяца назад

      Soooooeeee!!

  • @davidwhiren817
    @davidwhiren817 2 месяца назад

    High velocity spray ???

  • @oldcopper
    @oldcopper 2 месяца назад

    This guy is a brain surgeon! Yeah, something went wrong, ya think???

  • @Bardmusic66
    @Bardmusic66 2 месяца назад

    Can we get an arrest??

  • @davidwhiren817
    @davidwhiren817 2 месяца назад +1

    Starting to sound more like Ohio , the more things unfold !!!

  • @peecon7
    @peecon7 2 месяца назад +4

    “Something went wrong”
    You dont say….. 😂😂

  • @audreydaleski1067
    @audreydaleski1067 2 месяца назад

    Yes. Court system failure.

  • @Saphira6965VickiV
    @Saphira6965VickiV 2 месяца назад

    It's STS NATION'S Uncle Fil ❤

  • @allthatsnostalgic1779
    @allthatsnostalgic1779 2 месяца назад

    Something went wrong NO SHIT!!

  • @arabrabann
    @arabrabann 2 месяца назад

    IMO This is a true crime SHOW. To be shocked and apalled at a broadcst lets you know if the broadcast is for you. If its not , be at peace to find what is right for you to partake.

  • @turnerification123
    @turnerification123 2 месяца назад

    Ashly why do you interrupt?

  • @bluestarblue22
    @bluestarblue22 2 месяца назад

    Where is the grandmother?

  • @CapeCodOcean
    @CapeCodOcean 2 месяца назад

    Hi Fil

  • @DarcySchewalje
    @DarcySchewalje 2 месяца назад

    Is it true arrests have just bean made?

  • @OutWestRedDirt
    @OutWestRedDirt 2 месяца назад

    Where are you new nations? Some lawyer is reporting 4 arrest in this case.

  • @Andrea-sl8wd
    @Andrea-sl8wd Месяц назад

    She goes again same old story...current events not murder mysteries.

  • @jennifersalo8044
    @jennifersalo8044 2 месяца назад

    They were found deceased.

  • @JEWELZYOUTUBE
    @JEWELZYOUTUBE 2 месяца назад +9

    Seems to me that the search for these ladies is not that important, so they are not going to search, which is why people lose hope and respect for law enforcement.
    Where was the location of the car?
    Are there any footprints, drag marks, or handprints on the windows from either ladies?
    Torn fabric on the car, torn clothes, and hair anywhere that looks like possibly fighting back?
    Other tire tracks near the car?
    Anything around or under the car for clues?
    Anyone get court order cellphone records, ping their last call or location?
    What about court papers for their computers .. that might help who they talked to last.
    Oh my goodness, what's going on with the search here for these ladies? They could be alive.

    • @user-qp5dk3ji2s
      @user-qp5dk3ji2s 2 месяца назад +4

      I don't know what is wrong with law enforcement lately they must investigate the cases they want to.

    • @Alien300Blackout
      @Alien300Blackout 2 месяца назад

      Why don’t you get out from behind keyboard and go search

    • @JEWELZYOUTUBE
      @JEWELZYOUTUBE 2 месяца назад

      @alfpedersen2201 don't be an arse bc I don't live in that area, that's why. How about you do instead

    • @turnerification123
      @turnerification123 2 месяца назад +2

      The police are doing their best so if you know so much you should have went to the academy

    • @JEWELZYOUTUBE
      @JEWELZYOUTUBE 2 месяца назад

      @turnerification123... funny because in another news interview with an ex- detective, he was saying the same thing about the search.

  • @bobcatbigpaws5597
    @bobcatbigpaws5597 2 месяца назад +3

    She should be up on to this. The kids were not in the car from what i see in the media. I hope they get these kids away from this family. Yeah subscribe to fake news.

  • @markinvt
    @markinvt 2 месяца назад +2

    That preacher's wife who rode along for the custody pick-up probably lost her life being a do-gooder. These women carelessly met up in a remote area walking right into the trap where there'd likely be no witnesses.

  • @VeeAmericanEagle
    @VeeAmericanEagle 2 месяца назад +6

    Ashleigh always interrupting her guests 😂😂

  • @nikkikiris3062
    @nikkikiris3062 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm just so confused... how did the grandmother know they were traveling the way?? Is she working alone??

    • @sadesade9505
      @sadesade9505 2 месяца назад +1

      Good question, I doubt these young moms are alive, granny gonna go-to jail methinks

    • @Bardmusic66
      @Bardmusic66 2 месяца назад +1

      Grandma has the kids. Mom was going for visitation, along with a supervisor appointed by the court. The kids are with grandma still and never made it to mom.

  • @blackwidor
    @blackwidor 2 месяца назад

    ♥ fil ♥

  • @triciaburbank2195
    @triciaburbank2195 2 месяца назад +10

    This guy doesnt really live up to his reputation as a guest on these shows🤦Wish he would get familiar with the cases before coming on..🤦

    • @forjo7307
      @forjo7307 2 месяца назад +1

      Amen. Over and over again, the podcasters want to be seen and heard. All while real people are grieving.

    • @kimemerson4608
      @kimemerson4608 2 месяца назад

      We still don't know what happen or who did it. Still don't believe Grandma had anything to with it.

    • @kimemerson4608
      @kimemerson4608 2 месяца назад +1

      Kids in the car? Ashley is drama

  • @chopperchopper1418
    @chopperchopper1418 2 месяца назад

    If they would study the effects of climate change, this could have been prevented.

  • @seventhchild7270
    @seventhchild7270 2 месяца назад +4

    We're living in the Last Days and END of Times!!...2 Timothy 3...1 to 5...MATTHEW 24TH CHAPTER..
    Luke 21ST CHAPTER...BOOK OF REVELATIONS...

  • @jobabs
    @jobabs 2 месяца назад +3

    Speculation journalism.

  • @annamichaelsdottir5834
    @annamichaelsdottir5834 2 месяца назад

    Terrible❤

  • @user-kc7en5kc8b
    @user-kc7en5kc8b 2 месяца назад

    🐼🦝🙈noooo

  • @PInk77W1
    @PInk77W1 2 месяца назад +2

    Something went wrong.
    No kidding

  • @chrisroberts8355
    @chrisroberts8355 2 месяца назад +2

    If you got me on video i could of told you somthing went wrong

  • @privatecom22
    @privatecom22 2 месяца назад

    How would showing someone commit adultery help win him the presidency? America is weird.