The more stun decks I see the more I realize how messed up this game is I remember when they were a niche and now so many control decks are essentially stun decks and I can't complain when I see people play trap decks just look at the crap Kashtira and Snake Eyes pulls
@@commentstealer4460 THIS!!! grown ass men literally have like three modern decks that we can play that doesn’t make us look weird, honestly I’ve been using proxy art of like old school monsters on modern cards just so I can cope
I'm glad you said what you did about the art. Ive commented on it before on RUclips videos and get hate from that "community". Yugioh players are not self aware at all. So much so that Konami had to make a rule making them shower. Otherwise, they wouldn't even care about that.
Exactly, we need to raise the community up, not just ignore the problems, that’s what I try to keep in my mind while I make my videos. The showering comment is gold though, Yugioh players treat showers like they’re banned on the forbidden and limited list lol
As a girl duelist I really enjoy all the "waifu" decks. Except traptrix. That deck creeps me out. I would like if more decks were cute like Melffys tho not "cute" like dragonmaids or even strikers and I love Strikers.
So I’ll say this, girl duelists can get away with the waifu archetypes which honestly I like. That being said, anyone can play anything, it’s just that in my experience the dudes that only play waifu archetypes end up being those guys you never wanna meet when it’s dark out lol
Look up. Magical scientist ftk quiz ftk emperror dragon ftk ft yata empty jar ftk happy herald control synchro cat hand loop infernity handloop ft trishula dino rabbit pepe ft azathoth zoo gumblar hand loop dark warrior earth machinebftk ft canon soldier infernity link ft amazoness archer mystic mine mill/burn exodia ftk ft isolde i just gave you 20 years of comp decks that were cancer starting with 2004.
Dueling Wave with another based take! 👏 I calculated the average # of turns per duel for my last 34 games on MD (plat/diamond ranked). Resulting in an average of 1.5 turns with the longest game being 9 turns. Basically dice roll/coin flip meta
Thank you my brother 🙏🏼 & yea that’s kinda where we’re at now sadly, cards do so much now that it’s so easy to finish games either by locking your opponent out or otking through a million interrupts. Turn 3 is the money turn now, set up, negate and interrupt everything your opponent does and finish on turn 3
The Superheavy Samurai support would have been pretty neat if Wakaushi's pendulum effect locked you into earth machines or something. There's an archetype lock on the monster effect, which is good since it stopped the card from being even crazier but it wasn't enough clearly. I don't consider the "competitive" builds to be real Superheavy decks. It's more like "Generic Negate/Hand Trap Slop turbo" with a Superheavy engine. If your deck isn't about ramming into your opponent with big robot samurai cabooses then it sure as hell ain't Superheavy Samurais.
This has been my problem with yugioh lately,everyone is playing the best deck being snake eyes and just regurgitating a board that i have to play through while hitting me with 3-4 handtraps. I play vanquish soul, centur-ion and Lab.
And because snake eyes is so overtuned they eventually will play through the hand traps while your deck can’t because it’s older and less over designed. Top table Yugioh in a nutshell
Handtraps are...interesting. In theory, I don't think I have an issue with them, but I feel that in their current form, it was inevitable that they'd become a problem. "Instant" speed interaction, to use a Magic term, is a fun thing - but them being resourceless creates a few issues that isn't really present in resource system based TCGs. I would like to see handtraps be more narrow use case things and that's just not really how they work in the current game. Ghost Ogre is a good example of a handtrap I'd say is decently designed. It's a tricky situation, I'm not really sure how I'd address the issues I have with them in their current format. 🤔
We just got edison format event in master duel. Which made me realise : When is the last time i play to turn 17? 850 lp vs 25 lp? That format need to be made permanent. I'm sure it would bring old and new players.
That’s hype, we need an alt format that uses modern cards but uses Edison format principles, I.e. interaction, longer games, back and forth and a bunch of decks to choose from
Honestly bro, the fanservice in this game isn't even close to other stuff I've seen, especially the ones that don't pretend they aren't just a pure fanservice game like NIKKE. Also the weird random card censorship like with Exceed The Pendulum, which wasn't even a lewd card to begin with. Konami is fucking weird with that shit in the TCG. That isn't to talk about people with hentai mats or anything though, I don't play paper so I haven't encountered those weirdos lol. "Handtrap formats" are, well, something. For SHS, the only things that stopped them were Maxx "C", Shifter, or Droll. You could draw 3 of anything else and probably still get full comboed. Shit was wild. Iirc, Droll's useage stats on Master Duel went up by ~30% the day it came out. I wouldn't mind hand traps if decks actually had engine requirements; the decks I play tend to have 10-12 slots for non-engine (not counting called by/crossout, in which case that goes up to about 15), which I think is about right. When the majority of the deck can reasonably be non-engine, and is in fact optimal, that is when games become go fish instead of Yugioh. Snake Eyes in particular ends on almost full board off of one card, and ends on a fortress if you have access to jet+ash, or ash+fire king. As you said, the deck plays 15+ hand traps, so there is likely an interrupt in the hand, there are interrupts in grave, and there are interrupts on board, so no single board breaker in the game deals with every place the deck can interrupt you, or even comes close for that matter. I'm not a huge fan of blow out breakers, so I'd prefer a modest number of hand traps that have to be used correctly over waves of evenly matched. Imo, the most cringe thing are FTKs, burn decks in general in second, third are floodgates, especially if they are backrow.
Great nuanced take, bravo 👏 Especially the point about the most cringe thing being ftks and burn, the funny thing is, that every deck now that goes first tries to functionally ftk you and so ftk decks are kind of non existent
@@TheDuelingBeard I'd rather at least get to see one more card; I've won some doomed looking games from a clutch TTT or Fenrir draw. FTKs don't even give you the opportunity to play a card lol
as a lab player i would like to say: if i can ruin your game, so can traptrix, Ok guys, but with all due respect. How are you not prepared for d barrier at this point. It's a little ridiculous to not have a well thought out plan when entering a tournament.
These are the deck and support cards I consider is a problem: Labrynth. Fire king. Kashtira. Tearlament. Horus. Sky striker. Magician pendulum ( Ban performapal five-rainbow magician). Harpie feather duster. Maxx c. Ash blossom & joyous spring (Limit it to 1 or change it so that you must have no cards on the field to be able to use the effect). Baronne de fleur. Borreload savage dragon. Apollousa, Bow of the Goddess. Relinquished Anima (It says on the card that it can only target a card it points to, but I have seen that it can target any card on the field). When I played today i played 10 matches. On the coin flip 9 out of 10 times I had to start second and only 1 time I got to start first. I got 2 Win and 8 losses.
One card combo isn't cringe. Decks that have a lot of starter and extender, and can still play after some disruptions is cool. In fact, this one card combo and hyper-consistent deck are what makes YGO unique. IF, they have heavy restrictions as balancer. . I bring Marincess for example. The deck has a lot of true 1-card starter and many extender, in case your opponent drops something in the middle of the combo. But their endboard isn't really intimidating, even with or without disruptions from their opponent. You usually ended with Marincess Wave and Spell/trap negate (Aqua Argounot)/tower (Great Bubble Reef). Because the deck has restriction and requirement to optimize their play. The good extender usually lock the player into summon WATER only. And the best extender is usually only Marincess card, the combo will be more effective and efficient if you only use cards from their own archetype only. . Some players said, "this is boring when you can only play with cards from the archetype you play." But for me, this is more boring when you switch to other deck, but the endboard is the same trash generic monsters.
I agree, ultimately nothing in itself is the problem. It’s when they combine 5 problems in one archetype that Yugioh becomes broken, one card combos are broken if there are no restrictions, no bricks, hyper consistent, this is when stuff gets wild. Branded has a one card combo and isn’t a problem
when reasoning came out that is when the first 2 ftk's were made and that was around 2004. then things slowed down a bit then they picked back up with cydra/darkness metal dragon and lightsworn.
No one really likes playing Dragonmaid cause it is NOT a very good deck but Traptrix on the other hand? 50% weirdos who play it 50% mfs who just wanna make everyone hate them
They aren’t but the artworks that pop up are disgusting, like bro you can’t even type in Yugioh mats on ebay or google or some site without it being dragon maid hentai crap or DM girl or whatever. Trap trix has terrible artwork, almost as bad as maids but trap trix has an awesome mid range playstyle, it’s one of the fairest decks ever made
I will never apologize for playing traptrix. Throughout heaven and earth, I alone activate holeutea and overlay for Time Thief.
😂😂 you gotta be careful, nibiru incoming
@@TheDuelingBeard don't worry, I go into rafflesia first as my 4th summon. We got lines!
The more stun decks I see the more I realize how messed up this game is I remember when they were a niche and now so many control decks are essentially stun decks and I can't complain when I see people play trap decks just look at the crap Kashtira and Snake Eyes pulls
Same.
I always ask myself why tf would a grown ass man play with cards like traptrix or dragonmaid
That is the question right there
Trap trix to be fair is an awesome playing deck, super fun and interactive, but the art is next level bad
Traptix is budget and has a structure deck so there's an reason for it, dragonmaid however wtf are you doing just play dragon link.
@@commentstealer4460 THIS!!! grown ass men literally have like three modern decks that we can play that doesn’t make us look weird, honestly I’ve been using proxy art of like old school monsters on modern cards just so I can cope
I'm glad you said what you did about the art. Ive commented on it before on RUclips videos and get hate from that "community".
Yugioh players are not self aware at all. So much so that Konami had to make a rule making them shower. Otherwise, they wouldn't even care about that.
Exactly, we need to raise the community up, not just ignore the problems, that’s what I try to keep in my mind while I make my videos.
The showering comment is gold though, Yugioh players treat showers like they’re banned on the forbidden and limited list lol
Cringe tier list:
1) Wanting monetary prizes.
1) Hentai mats/sleeves.
1) "Pros" and their fanboys.
All top tier cringe 😂
As a girl duelist I really enjoy all the "waifu" decks. Except traptrix. That deck creeps me out.
I would like if more decks were cute like Melffys tho not "cute" like dragonmaids or even strikers and I love Strikers.
So I’ll say this, girl duelists can get away with the waifu archetypes which honestly I like. That being said, anyone can play anything, it’s just that in my experience the dudes that only play waifu archetypes end up being those guys you never wanna meet when it’s dark out lol
@@TheDuelingBeard yeah those kind of guys are part of why I don't play IRL lol. Coupled with no close locals of course.
The most cringe thing:
Tcg = the smell of players
Ocg/master duel = maxx c
They gotta unban deodorant and showering on the next tcg list. The players are down bad
What do I think of hand traps? Band-Aid fixes to a severed limb.
😂😂😂
the most cringe thing is the one card combo decks.
Agreed, one card combos are degenerate 90% of the tome
Game has been like this since 2004 get over it.
@@thekittenfreakify nah the game was never this bad ROLF
Look up.
Magical scientist ftk
quiz ftk
emperror dragon ftk ft yata
empty jar ftk
happy herald control
synchro cat hand loop
infernity handloop ft trishula
dino rabbit
pepe ft azathoth
zoo
gumblar hand loop
dark warrior
earth machinebftk ft canon soldier
infernity link ft amazoness archer
mystic mine mill/burn
exodia ftk ft isolde
i just gave you 20 years of comp decks that were cancer starting with 2004.
@@thekittenfreakify cry
Dueling Wave with another based take! 👏 I calculated the average # of turns per duel for my last 34 games on MD (plat/diamond ranked). Resulting in an average of 1.5 turns with the longest game being 9 turns. Basically dice roll/coin flip meta
Thank you my brother 🙏🏼 & yea that’s kinda where we’re at now sadly, cards do so much now that it’s so easy to finish games either by locking your opponent out or otking through a million interrupts. Turn 3 is the money turn now, set up, negate and interrupt everything your opponent does and finish on turn 3
The Superheavy Samurai support would have been pretty neat if Wakaushi's pendulum effect locked you into earth machines or something. There's an archetype lock on the monster effect, which is good since it stopped the card from being even crazier but it wasn't enough clearly. I don't consider the "competitive" builds to be real Superheavy decks. It's more like "Generic Negate/Hand Trap Slop turbo" with a Superheavy engine. If your deck isn't about ramming into your opponent with big robot samurai cabooses then it sure as hell ain't Superheavy Samurais.
Love it, spoken like a true purist 😎
When formats like this come around I love to bring out the old anti meta floodgate special, atleast they have cool artwork on them 🤷♂️
That’s it! 😂 just make players squirm while staring down floodgates and inspector boarder
This has been my problem with yugioh lately,everyone is playing the best deck being snake eyes and just regurgitating a board that i have to play through while hitting me with 3-4 handtraps. I play vanquish soul, centur-ion and Lab.
And because snake eyes is so overtuned they eventually will play through the hand traps while your deck can’t because it’s older and less over designed. Top table Yugioh in a nutshell
Handtraps are...interesting. In theory, I don't think I have an issue with them, but I feel that in their current form, it was inevitable that they'd become a problem. "Instant" speed interaction, to use a Magic term, is a fun thing - but them being resourceless creates a few issues that isn't really present in resource system based TCGs. I would like to see handtraps be more narrow use case things and that's just not really how they work in the current game. Ghost Ogre is a good example of a handtrap I'd say is decently designed.
It's a tricky situation, I'm not really sure how I'd address the issues I have with them in their current format. 🤔
I agree, the only reason hand traps are viewed as a good thing is because decks are off the wall strong and so we sort of need them
We just got edison format event in master duel. Which made me realise : When is the last time i play to turn 17? 850 lp vs 25 lp? That format need to be made permanent. I'm sure it would bring old and new players.
That’s hype, we need an alt format that uses modern cards but uses Edison format principles, I.e. interaction, longer games, back and forth and a bunch of decks to choose from
Wallahi Snake eyes is haram by far should be forbidden Nats and Konami pls necroface support or metaphy 😂
Plz 🙏🏼 Konami
Honestly bro, the fanservice in this game isn't even close to other stuff I've seen, especially the ones that don't pretend they aren't just a pure fanservice game like NIKKE. Also the weird random card censorship like with Exceed The Pendulum, which wasn't even a lewd card to begin with. Konami is fucking weird with that shit in the TCG. That isn't to talk about people with hentai mats or anything though, I don't play paper so I haven't encountered those weirdos lol.
"Handtrap formats" are, well, something. For SHS, the only things that stopped them were Maxx "C", Shifter, or Droll. You could draw 3 of anything else and probably still get full comboed. Shit was wild. Iirc, Droll's useage stats on Master Duel went up by ~30% the day it came out. I wouldn't mind hand traps if decks actually had engine requirements; the decks I play tend to have 10-12 slots for non-engine (not counting called by/crossout, in which case that goes up to about 15), which I think is about right. When the majority of the deck can reasonably be non-engine, and is in fact optimal, that is when games become go fish instead of Yugioh. Snake Eyes in particular ends on almost full board off of one card, and ends on a fortress if you have access to jet+ash, or ash+fire king. As you said, the deck plays 15+ hand traps, so there is likely an interrupt in the hand, there are interrupts in grave, and there are interrupts on board, so no single board breaker in the game deals with every place the deck can interrupt you, or even comes close for that matter. I'm not a huge fan of blow out breakers, so I'd prefer a modest number of hand traps that have to be used correctly over waves of evenly matched.
Imo, the most cringe thing are FTKs, burn decks in general in second, third are floodgates, especially if they are backrow.
Great nuanced take, bravo 👏
Especially the point about the most cringe thing being ftks and burn, the funny thing is, that every deck now that goes first tries to functionally ftk you and so ftk decks are kind of non existent
@@TheDuelingBeard I'd rather at least get to see one more card; I've won some doomed looking games from a clutch TTT or Fenrir draw. FTKs don't even give you the opportunity to play a card lol
superheavy
Samurai
as a lab player i would like to say: if i can ruin your game, so can traptrix, Ok guys, but with all due respect. How are you not prepared for d barrier at this point. It's a little ridiculous to not have a well thought out plan when entering a tournament.
What way can you play around dbarrier?
@@TheDuelingBeard skip the turn and play on the next.
@notaheretic6675 skip a turn in a game that ends in 2 turns?
@@TheDuelingBeardno problem play the next turn after the game is over.
These are the deck and support cards I consider is a problem:
Labrynth.
Fire king.
Kashtira.
Tearlament.
Horus.
Sky striker.
Magician pendulum ( Ban performapal five-rainbow magician).
Harpie feather duster.
Maxx c.
Ash blossom & joyous spring (Limit it to 1 or change it so that you must have no cards on the field to be able to use the effect).
Baronne de fleur.
Borreload savage dragon.
Apollousa, Bow of the Goddess.
Relinquished Anima (It says on the card that it can only target a card it points to, but I have seen that it can target any card on the field).
When I played today i played 10 matches. On the coin flip 9 out of 10 times I had to start second and only 1 time I got to start first. I got 2 Win and 8 losses.
I feel your pain, I think a lot of the new stuff is very overpowered sadly, I don’t even know if there’s a way to fix the game
One card combo isn't cringe. Decks that have a lot of starter and extender, and can still play after some disruptions is cool. In fact, this one card combo and hyper-consistent deck are what makes YGO unique. IF, they have heavy restrictions as balancer.
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I bring Marincess for example. The deck has a lot of true 1-card starter and many extender, in case your opponent drops something in the middle of the combo. But their endboard isn't really intimidating, even with or without disruptions from their opponent. You usually ended with Marincess Wave and Spell/trap negate (Aqua Argounot)/tower (Great Bubble Reef). Because the deck has restriction and requirement to optimize their play. The good extender usually lock the player into summon WATER only. And the best extender is usually only Marincess card, the combo will be more effective and efficient if you only use cards from their own archetype only.
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Some players said, "this is boring when you can only play with cards from the archetype you play." But for me, this is more boring when you switch to other deck, but the endboard is the same trash generic monsters.
I agree, ultimately nothing in itself is the problem. It’s when they combine 5 problems in one archetype that Yugioh becomes broken, one card combos are broken if there are no restrictions, no bricks, hyper consistent, this is when stuff gets wild. Branded has a one card combo and isn’t a problem
game has been like this since 2004
Idk, I think the game was good and back and forth until 2019-2020. There’s always been problems but back in those days you could still set traps
when reasoning came out that is when the first 2 ftk's were made and that was around 2004. then things slowed down a bit then they picked back up with cydra/darkness metal dragon and lightsworn.
No one really likes playing Dragonmaid cause it is NOT a very good deck but Traptrix on the other hand? 50% weirdos who play it 50% mfs who just wanna make everyone hate them
They aren’t but the artworks that pop up are disgusting, like bro you can’t even type in Yugioh mats on ebay or google or some site without it being dragon maid hentai crap or DM girl or whatever. Trap trix has terrible artwork, almost as bad as maids but trap trix has an awesome mid range playstyle, it’s one of the fairest decks ever made
Why the hate dragon maid is cool go watch the anime
@@alexandergeorgiev74weirdo alert
@@Fam1ne look at self first your profile picture is of a weirdo 😅
@@Fam1ne why it's weird to like maid's dragon is the first deck i played when i started master duel no i mixed it up with Horus