cis people who don't like being called cis

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  • @surgeland9084
    @surgeland9084 3 года назад +183

    This is fairly universal for people in positions of privilege. As an Indigenous person for instance, when I talk to settlers, they say they don't like that term and that it's a "slur" when there were laws from just a few years ago that literally would have called me a "half-breed".

    • @AnActualWoman
      @AnActualWoman 2 года назад +2

      This whole thing is such a laugh. Cultish for sure

    • @surgeland9084
      @surgeland9084 2 года назад +9

      @@AnActualWoman You feeling alright there?

    • @kuromistan645
      @kuromistan645 2 года назад +5

      @@AnActualWoman ☠️☠️ not this

    • @AnActualWoman
      @AnActualWoman 2 года назад +10

      @@kuromistan645 isn’t it interesting that trans men and women will jump up and down screaming that instead of being called a trans woman, or a trans man, they should just be called a woman or a man. Yet I as a woman, am apparently a cis woman. A label I never asked for or gave to myself. Yet when y’all go out of your way to be different and weird, you demand that I call you what a normal person would be called….make it make sense
      For the community that claims to be so tolerant, you’d think you’d listen to someone when they say, hey I didn’t ask for this and I don’t want it.

    • @bonniejunk
      @bonniejunk 2 года назад +3

      @@AnActualWoman
      trans people don't get upset if you call them trans, nice strawman

  • @TheStadtpark
    @TheStadtpark 3 года назад +753

    Thanks non-binary Elijah Wood

    • @SpeedOfTheEarth
      @SpeedOfTheEarth 3 года назад +10

      Worst part is Elijah Wood is such an asshat doe
      Unlike Sean Astin who is a total honey

    • @astralisk
      @astralisk 3 года назад +4

      LMAO

    • @peachyevren5789
      @peachyevren5789 3 года назад +2

      @@SpeedOfTheEarth he is?? And Sam is critically underrated :(

    • @peachyevren5789
      @peachyevren5789 3 года назад +10

      @@SpeedOfTheEarth how is he an asshole if you have the time to explain, i could find nothing about him being problematic🤧

    • @ThatWeirdFinn
      @ThatWeirdFinn 3 года назад +1

      Right?! "Editing me" looks like Elijah Wood from LOTR!! :D

  • @255ad
    @255ad 3 года назад +595

    The title “Dear biological people” makes me imagine like a robot clicking off a video.

    • @chiveshorses9459
      @chiveshorses9459 3 года назад +16

      LMAO YES

    • @ddjsoyenby
      @ddjsoyenby 3 года назад +21

      "i tawk lyk da hooman beepity bloop"

    • @xant8344
      @xant8344 3 года назад +4

      Only Mark Zuckerberg could make that video

    • @viktorberzinsky4781
      @viktorberzinsky4781 3 года назад

      I kind of want that to be the title of an album by some industrial or eletronica group or a darkwave band.

  • @fangfetti
    @fangfetti 3 года назад +313

    “Dear biological people” *The cybermen want to know your location*

  • @abarosei3318
    @abarosei3318 3 года назад +423

    Im okay with cisgender people, im friends with cis people in fact.

    • @fruitygarlic3601
      @fruitygarlic3601 3 года назад +93

      I just don't like it when they make it their whole personality. Some cis people take it too far.

    • @abarosei3318
      @abarosei3318 3 года назад +76

      @@fruitygarlic3601 Also why must they force me tô be atracted tô them? Like image you are in bedroom and find out they arent trans 😢

    • @Somefool669
      @Somefool669 3 года назад +34

      Idk, I don't trust the cis agenda

    • @maximellow5745
      @maximellow5745 3 года назад +33

      I know a cisgender and he says I'm not cis-phobic, trust me.

    • @dengosodawg
      @dengosodawg 3 года назад +25

      I have a cis friend, and I dated a white guy in college, so....

  • @ProfessorFlowers
    @ProfessorFlowers 3 года назад +509

    I have a really similar dynamic with white people. White people will be offended when you say, "White people", yet feel comfortable pointing out if something is black.

    • @quirkyblackenby
      @quirkyblackenby 3 года назад +15

      yes! I've noticed this too

    • @peachyevren5789
      @peachyevren5789 3 года назад +33

      I feel like people who have never dealt with oppression and aren't part of a marginilised group want to be oppressed so bad because now racism, homophobia, transphobia, misogyny etc. gets called out a lot more and they feel attacked by that for whatever reason.
      Which... why would they feel attacked if they aren't part of the problem...?
      It seems to be so hard for a lot of white people to not center themselves in conversations about racism. Or for cis-people in conversations about trans-people and so on.

    • @peachyevren5789
      @peachyevren5789 3 года назад +16

      @Diya uhm... ok? You do know that in order to point out injustice some features are relevant.
      You can't just say "people center themselves in the conversation about racism and that's problematic" when some people need to be the center of that conversation because they are effected by it.
      White people don't experience racism that's why they shouldn't be in the center of that conversation, they should be the ones listening and changing things for the better.
      That's what i meant.

    • @thebookwormhotel5336
      @thebookwormhotel5336 3 года назад +1

      Oh really? I have never met a pale person with a problem with it?

    • @ProfessorFlowers
      @ProfessorFlowers 3 года назад +14

      Wow, this thread is such a great example of exactly what I said was a problem 🖤

  • @monasticmaestosobinch2369
    @monasticmaestosobinch2369 3 года назад +253

    "I have a video about terfs in the works" damn sick rhyme

    • @ddjsoyenby
      @ddjsoyenby 3 года назад +9

      i can't wait to read upset t3rf comments :)

    • @JuniperJupiter
      @JuniperJupiter 3 года назад +1

      That damn sick rhyme probably has a dope-ass beat with it. :P

    • @auggiemain
      @auggiemain 3 года назад +2

      @@ddjsoyenby trust me, they're already here.

  • @255ad
    @255ad 3 года назад +149

    I like your picture of Shaun

  • @Bushwhacker-so4yk
    @Bushwhacker-so4yk 3 года назад +90

    “Normal means different things to different people.” Right on! There are a lot of variations in people, a lot of ways we could be not-the-default. I’m cis and white, yes, but I’m also autistic. So while trans people and people of color might think I’m “normal”, neurotypicals are giving me the side eye.

    • @felixflax19
      @felixflax19 3 года назад +27

      I’m trans and autistic and yeah, allistic and cisgender people really like the concept of normality

    • @kendradupree1094
      @kendradupree1094 3 года назад +4

      ah same

  • @wmdkitty
    @wmdkitty 3 года назад +39

    Also, what even _is_ "normal", beyond a harmful social concept that others people who don't quite fit in?

  • @kittygrimm7301
    @kittygrimm7301 3 года назад +627

    I’m really digging this new song, “Cisgender” by Non-Binary Depeche Mode.

    • @antonvinther31
      @antonvinther31 3 года назад +9

      Yes me too. When is the new album coming and where can I pre-order 💚

    • @gozerthegozarian9500
      @gozerthegozarian9500 3 года назад +2

      His singing voice really sounds a bit like Martin Gore's , doesn't it? I've noticed, too!

    • @Alysana2604
      @Alysana2604 3 года назад +5

      DEPECHE MODE YEEESSSSSSS, one of my favourite bands compared to one of my favourite creators. It makes me very excited to see how many likes this comment got, even knowing what Depeche Mode is.

  • @yaboiallie525
    @yaboiallie525 3 года назад +74

    Dear default settings people, just accept that yall aren't the world's protagonists, this shit is getting embarrassing.

    • @AnActualWoman
      @AnActualWoman 2 года назад +2

      Wow. Reaching a little hard for that “main character energy” 💀💀💀

  • @spacefacecadet
    @spacefacecadet 3 года назад +63

    "I'm not cisgender, I'm normal" cool I'm trans too :p

  • @jeweliskewel
    @jeweliskewel 3 года назад +48

    why does the cisgender song kinda slap 😳✋

    • @SkyeID
      @SkyeID 4 месяца назад

      I'ma sing it all night!

  • @olfersisapotato8970
    @olfersisapotato8970 3 года назад +92

    Mmm that eyeshadow though

    • @goo8243
      @goo8243 3 года назад +2

      I knoooowww, that eyeshadow looks so good

    • @DriscolDevil
      @DriscolDevil 3 года назад +2

      I wish I had the confidence to do wear makeup. I had to slowly work my way to getting a ponytail and I still feel self concious about that.

  • @Alex-pn2hn
    @Alex-pn2hn 3 года назад +40

    Korviday: makes calm, levelheaded comment about power dynamics between cis people and trans people
    Cis ppl: OMDG THIS WOKE SCOLD SNOW FLAKE KEOWHWBWDKFWJSJXBFJEQKbdneekejerggggg
    I genuinely do not understand why people get their feathers so ruffled by Korivday's takes. Keep speaking your truth, if it makes cis people uncomfy they need to hear it.

  • @burningflurber
    @burningflurber 3 года назад +13

    it does sound KINDA fun to call cis people normies

  • @charmingnarcisse
    @charmingnarcisse 3 года назад +74

    nor/mal😍😍😍🤣🤣 cis are so funny !!!😐😐😐

    • @grilledcheese5000
      @grilledcheese5000 3 года назад +25

      Sometimes nor just needs to calm malself down and listen to trans people

    • @ddjsoyenby
      @ddjsoyenby 3 года назад +14

      "we're normal"
      "hi normal, i'm not boring"

  • @useroffline9999
    @useroffline9999 3 года назад +31

    i must say, your look today is _ethereal_

  • @MiloStewart
    @MiloStewart 3 года назад +82

    Your makeup in this video is INCREDIBLE! I love the 'you can dish it but not take it' metaphor! Like, clearly being labeled as 'trans' isn't a bad thing, but the fact that some cis people get offended by having a label put on them is really revealing of how they think about the labels that they use for other people.

    • @morgoth_bauglir
      @morgoth_bauglir 3 года назад +4

      Hey milo, I love your content!

    • @gaviota-sibila1093
      @gaviota-sibila1093 Год назад +1

      Is being labelled a “man” or a “woman” bad though? They aren’t insults. Yet transgender people object to this because it invalidates their identities. When you call someone cisgender who doesn’t identify as cisgender you are doing exactly the same thing. Either you should be free to call them cisgender while they are free to call you a woman, or everyone should only you language for other people that they choose themselves.

    • @SavouryGalette
      @SavouryGalette Год назад

      Except transgender people invented the term for themselves, to differentiate them from men and women.

    • @Scar-jg4bn
      @Scar-jg4bn Год назад

      ​@@gaviota-sibila1093exactly. Hypocrisy seems to go hand in hand with mental illness with these people. 🤡

  • @CJMGalaxy
    @CJMGalaxy 3 года назад +183

    Labels fucking ROCK, if it weren't for labels I would still be lost in the woods of gender and sexuality. If people didn't call themselves trans guys, I wouldn't know I am one.

    • @the-queenmaleficent7727
      @the-queenmaleficent7727 3 года назад +9

      Same. My label is bisexual and I’m proud.

    • @CJMGalaxy
      @CJMGalaxy 3 года назад +4

      @catergary9 I literally don't care. I was miserable and now I'm comfortable. My damaged psyche is between me and my psychiatrist, who also thinks I'm better off now than before.

    • @CJMGalaxy
      @CJMGalaxy 3 года назад +4

      @catergary9...I'm not nonbinary though? Like I said I was a trans guy. You're projecting some issues you have with other people onto me. And you think I haven't thought for a solid decade about whether I'm *actually* trans? I'm thirty. I know extremely well that relieving my gender dysphoria is what has improved my life, and not a sense of belonging I don't even actually benefit from because of where I live.
      I neither want nor need your best wishes, thanks.

    • @celeste2942
      @celeste2942 3 года назад +1

      @@CJMGalaxy is that liam o'brien as your profile picture?

    • @CJMGalaxy
      @CJMGalaxy 3 года назад +1

      @@celeste2942 it is!

  • @arowace498
    @arowace498 3 года назад +405

    "How dare you have words... To describe things!!" - cis people

    • @arowace498
      @arowace498 3 года назад

      @catergary9
      From google: "prefix
      n. a WORD, letter, or number placed before another."
      :/

    • @arowace498
      @arowace498 3 года назад +4

      @catergary9 I don't understand why you feel the need to sass me but cis is still a word. Look! I just used it independent of a word it's attached to (aka a prefix) and it's still grammatically correct.
      Because it's a word.

    • @arowace498
      @arowace498 3 года назад +3

      @catergary9 let me show you an example since you insist on dying on stupid hills. Cis, like trans is both a prefix and a word. You can say "cismen, ciswomen, and cischildren" (using as a prefix) or you can say "cis men, women and children" (word usage). If it were just a prefix it would not make sense and here's an example of something that is just a prefix to illustrate it to you: "that was apolitical and atonal" vs "that was a political and tonal" which no one in their right mind would say.
      How about: mistake, misspoke, misunderstood? "Mis take, spoke, understood"? That's also stupid. I know you've heard people use cis and trans as words before so I don't understand why you're trying to be a smart ass.
      Besides that words are prescriptive, not descriptive. Trans and cis are words created by our community and are often used both as prefixes and words. If we all decided that "cisly" was a correct useage it would be. As it stands cis is both a word and a prefix in common usage. Trust me, you'll actually be saving more of your ego if you give it up now, because as much as you wanna prove yourself superior it's not gonna happen.

    • @arowace498
      @arowace498 3 года назад +3

      @catergary9 that's the POINT.
      you can wonder what it means to be trans
      But wondering what it means to be "mis" does not make sense. It's a prefix and solely a prefix. That's why I used those examples.

    • @arowace498
      @arowace498 3 года назад +4

      @catergary9 being trans, and transitioning are two different things btw. Not every trans person has the luxury of transitioning. They are still trans. You can and should wonder what it means to be trans because then you would know that.

  • @l.j.s.8485
    @l.j.s.8485 3 года назад +17

    Another thing I like about labels, especially in the early stages of my queerness and transness, was that they gave me a sense of community and belonging. It felt like, "look, I can give a name to how I'm feeling, and that makes it real." As I've gotten older and grown into my identities, I resonate less with specific labels and more generally with the ideas of queerness and transness, but I really value the space and community that specific labels gave me

  • @zoushaomenohu
    @zoushaomenohu 3 года назад +119

    Disclaimer: Cis dude here, so take the following opinion with whatever amount of salt you feel appropriate...yeah, you're absolutely right. Privileged folks are the EPITOME of being able to dish it out but not take it, and cis/straight people get very, VERY weird about it. To the point that even I'M wondering if they're okay...

    • @elizabethbrammer7022
      @elizabethbrammer7022 3 года назад +8

      THIS!!!

    • @ThatWeirdFinn
      @ThatWeirdFinn 3 года назад +8

      I urge you to go and watch One Topic's videos "Are the straights ok?". I know he reads them off of Reddit, but he's like the most wholesome dude.

    • @BramLastname
      @BramLastname 3 года назад

      Yeah,
      The one benefit to not being a cis white person
      Is that you don't have to explain that you hate cis white nonsense.

    • @junior-corradosoprano9435
      @junior-corradosoprano9435 2 года назад +2

      U people need help. U make up a word to define what's already been defined. What's wrong with being white. Or a cis man for that matter. Ur hateful and live in an echo chamber

  • @Kotifilosofi
    @Kotifilosofi 3 года назад +21

    Who remembers the days when straight people got insulted to be called straight, as opposed to gay? That too was a thing, at least here in Finland 😆 nowadays the like-minded people call themselves "just normal straight man/woman, NOT CIS!!" 🤔

  • @gardensystem7497
    @gardensystem7497 3 года назад +21

    loved the video, especially the music. I do wanna add, I always felt like cis people were deliberate in opposing language describing them. Like you said, if we don't have the language for it, we cannot describe our oppression, so they actively try to push for "normal" and "biological" to make it harder for us to communicate clearly and concisely. ~Rosa

  • @patchyfish1
    @patchyfish1 3 года назад +242

    As a Nonbinary Person who's finally starting to be comfortable in their own skin, masculinity, femininity and identity after 20 years... I'd love to try getting into makeup, you've done it, you've fukin converted me with ur style.

    • @ddjsoyenby
      @ddjsoyenby 3 года назад +5

      congrats :)

    • @julesjoy6499
      @julesjoy6499 3 года назад +5

      Good for you! Make up is the best! So much fun

    • @patchyfish1
      @patchyfish1 3 года назад +2

      Anyone can wear makeup, I know.
      I am Nonbinary because I'm Nonbinary LOL

    • @patchyfish1
      @patchyfish1 3 года назад +1

      @catergary9 Pls explain what Nonbinary means...

    • @patchyfish1
      @patchyfish1 3 года назад +1

      ​@catergary9 Yeah I watch Jammi, and he is a smart guy who understands how people can be Nonbinary. Surprised you don't considering you watch him and your questioning some stranger on their own identity and experiences of which you don't know of. It's Silly.

  • @RexxyRobin
    @RexxyRobin 3 года назад +8

    I also find it very annoying how so many people take "normal" to mean "good" and vice versa.
    Humanity's obesession with social norms has been a curse on my life since early childhood and I just never got it.
    Right now a bunch of people are praising Biden for being a "Return to normalcy" and while I'm very glad that Trump didn't get a second term, I am like "Why is that the thing that matters to you?"
    Normal doesnt mean shit if it causes harm and abnormal is not actually bad if it makes people happy.
    Like did anybody else find it super worrying that over the past four years there was more roasting of Trumps weird hair than criticism or mention of his many sexual assaults?
    It should be okay to have funky hair, but the leniency people show towards sex-offenders is sickening.
    Edit: Same with all the times people complain about government overreach.
    Masks and gay marriage are outside the norm for most people so they complain about the tyrannical government.
    Police being nazis and rich white dudes raping minors is part of the norm, so they can ignore it.
    Makes me wanny hang myself.

  • @pestBonBon
    @pestBonBon 3 года назад +9

    I'm a white, able-bodied, middle-class, heterosexual and therefor highly priviledged cisgender woman. And because of this, I have to learn constantly about my priviledges and blind spots. I can and should also use my priviledges to change policies or ignorant peoples minds. For these easy things (that are easy to me because of my priviledges), like learning and taking a stand or action, I'm not earning to be praised. It's a minimum. Trying to be an ally and an empathatic human being.
    Thanks for your wonderful thoughts. 💚💙💜

    • @gmc5618
      @gmc5618 2 года назад +1

      Exactly, it's the bare minimum

  • @graveyardpansy
    @graveyardpansy 3 года назад +161

    cis people are truly fascinating and you do a wonderful job deconstructing it 💜

  • @ApollosDagger
    @ApollosDagger 3 года назад +16

    My partner while I was watching the video was like “I know it’s probably a microphone, but wouldn’t it be funny if he was just talking into something like the tail of a plush raccoon instead?” And let me tell you I lost it.

  • @quirkyblackenby
    @quirkyblackenby 3 года назад +217

    Yes! Using words for privileged people is very important. They always hate those words though. It’s hilarious and ridiculous.

    • @doctorwholover1012
      @doctorwholover1012 3 года назад +28

      Privileged ppl hate when words used to 'explain' things are assigned to them, because they are 'normal', they are 'default', and when you stop using that terminology and address them as just another 'option' on a list of many, they feel attacked, because they've never had to think about or assess themselves as not 'normal', they've just existed without question.
      My favourite example is me explaining myself (asexual, homoromantic, poly, genderfluid/nonbinary) to a new person after they asked. They asked me to expand on those words, because they'd never heard them before. I said "yeah! Okay, so, you're heterosexual?" (They say yeah) "so, I'm asexual, which means XXX, and then homoromantic is romantic attraction, so you're probably heteroromantic? And then instead of being cisgender like you, I'm basically trans-" they cut me off "IM NOT CISGENDER - IM NORMAL"...... me "yep, that's what I said. Cisgender means XXX, which you are?" And they say "NO! I'm NORMAL" and we go back and forth a few times until they get it.
      Without fail, every single (straight white cis monogamous abled) person I try to explain this stuff to has that gut reaction of "IM NOT (LABEL) IM NORMAL" and it's always because they dont like the idea of being..... quantified? As part of a group instead of as a person ? Or they dont like the implication that just like certain words are used to describe me, the same can happen right back. 😅
      It reminds me of toddlers going through their obstinate phase sometimes 😂

    • @jayb8571
      @jayb8571 3 года назад +10

      they legit cannot handle facing the reality that theyve harmed others and rather than embrace and change it they do
      well
      this

    • @cinnamonroll96
      @cinnamonroll96 3 года назад +1

      @@doctorwholover1012 I have a question because I know a bit of everything but homoromantic/ heteroromantic.Is that just used with asexual ppl that have a romantic attraction to the same (?) gender (what does that mean as a gender fluid person?) and heteroromantic would be that as a woman who’s asexual, but is romantically attracted to men?

    • @jamyamosely4573
      @jamyamosely4573 3 года назад +9

      @catergary9 ...Did-did you not watch the video? Some people in these marginalized groups like the labels because even though trans women are women, they're discriminated against not JUST for being a woman, but being a TRANS woman. These labels are important because it helps when having conversations like this.
      Edit: Also, labels help people guide the world of gender and sexuality. When a person finally has a word to describe exactly how they feel, it can be liberating. Everything clicks and makes sense because "I finally understand my feelings after learning what a trans woman is. I'm a trans woman."

    • @jamyamosely4573
      @jamyamosely4573 3 года назад +4

      @catergary9 Not everyone is buddhist and not everyone is from the west. Just because you subscribe to those values and philosophies does not make them "correct" or "right." Those beliefs work for you, and that's great! But, for others, they like labeling themselves and putting words to things to help themselves and others better understand the vast and complex spectrum of sexuality and gender.

  • @agataturwon9962
    @agataturwon9962 3 года назад +7

    haven't finished the video yet, but I think the people who hate saying/being called "cis" see someone describing themselves as "trans" as derogatory (hello, isn't that interesting lmao). so ofc they don't want to be thrown in with all those NOT normal people who need a prefix, because having a prefix is derogatory if that makes sense. at least that's what I've been noticing hjdfghd, it's in the whole "I'M NOT TRANS OR CIS WHATEVER I'M NORMAL" which is just.... sir this is a wendy's

    • @agataturwon9962
      @agataturwon9962 3 года назад +3

      and I'm cis by the way! not to talk out of my ass!! I just think it's important to accept the label cis, it makes the whole conversation and learning from trans people easier hfhgh, even on just a practical language level

  • @SybilNix
    @SybilNix 3 года назад +9

    I don’t understand why they can’t recognize that it’s just...... an adjective (I think?)
    Like..,,, a “blonde woman” signifies that this woman is... blonde
    Even..... “straight woman.”.......... (most 👀) people don’t mind using that one.....
    So like.... why is “cis woman” such a problem for so many????
    (Aside from like you said, they weren’t the ones who got to choose the word, lol)
    I wonder if it’s because some people, white cisgender feminists in particular, don’t want to acknowledge that they can *gasp* be oppressive themselves. Like they just REFUSE to acknowledge the role they play in other people’s oppression because they only care about their liberation in a patriarchal world.
    (You can tell I don’t read much literature on this stuff but I care abt the issues lol, I’m sure this has been discussed plenty of times)
    I feel like this lack of self-reflection and accountability is the main cause for gatekeeping within the LGBTQIA+ community as well (“lgbt is the full acronym” LOL)

  • @thebestplanetisearth6018
    @thebestplanetisearth6018 3 года назад +6

    This is such a great video! As a cis woman who likes words, I have a real hard time understanding why some cis people object to this term considering it has NO negative connotation at all, and your video helps unpack that a bit.
    Also I love the song and your style.

  • @micky2708
    @micky2708 3 года назад +18

    love your videos korviday, fully agree with the points you made here

    • @micky2708
      @micky2708 3 года назад

      also your music is cool

  • @TheMadGeekFan
    @TheMadGeekFan 3 года назад +27

    Hey. Je voulais dire que je t’adore, et que tu m’as beaucoup aidé à découvrir qui je suis vraiment. Je t’aime.

  • @skylinesandturnstiles9595
    @skylinesandturnstiles9595 3 года назад +87

    lol i recently discovered that im nonbinary this video is just in time for me

  • @felixxferd
    @felixxferd 3 года назад +14

    I don't disagree with anything you said, but I wonder what this discussion looks like from an intersex perspective? Especially your emphasis of trans and cis just being opposites from each other? I don't know enough about it myself but I've heard some critizing that the cis/trans idea just doesn't really work from an intersex perspective. At the same time, there is an obvious need to have words like cis to analysis power relations.

    • @Kotifilosofi
      @Kotifilosofi 3 года назад

      What you mean by "doesn't work from intersex perspective"? They're either trans or cis too? Or I could be missing something?

    • @felixxferd
      @felixxferd 3 года назад +1

      @@Kotifilosofi Well by definition of the terms, yes, but the assumptions coming with these terms might not make sense with their experiences. Like that cis is often used to talk about certian priviledges, but an intersex person, even when identifying with the gender they were assigned, might not have many of these priviledges. Or they might not identify with the gender they were assigned, but not want to use the term trans, because what people often assume that trans means might not describe their experiences.

    • @Kotifilosofi
      @Kotifilosofi 3 года назад +3

      @@felixxferd oh, I did not think about it in such a complicated way. Just that either you do or do not identify with your assigned at birth gender (not all intersex people want to transition into anything by any way). Stereotypes are another story. But I don't think they disappear by banning terms. Rather people just need more information to widen their scope of understanding of what cis and trans can mean.

    • @felixxferd
      @felixxferd 3 года назад

      @@Kotifilosofi yes, that is for sure one position to take: Widen or change the meaning of terms, rather than using another one. But other people might feel differently about it and find it more helpful to use different terms to have these discussions and that is just as valid. I think there is a long history of trans/intersex/non-binary people shaping language in ways that they can better express themselves, whether that be changing the meaning of old terms or creating new ones. I don't think there is one way to do that and so I'm not arguing to ban the word cis, I just wanna point out that in this video it was protrait as something very simple, which given the point of the video makes sense, but at the same time I thought it might have made some intersex people feel somewhat erased in their (possibly) more nuanced relationships with the terms cis/trans. I hope I expressed that well. And I'm really no authority on this, so if you're interested, I suggest you look it up and find someone from the intersex community talk about this. :-)

    • @Kotifilosofi
      @Kotifilosofi 3 года назад +1

      @@felixxferd absolutely, I can't speak by the mouth of intersex people, either 🙂
      I just kinda feel like there is no other option, either you're cis or you're trans. I actually identify as (questioning) nb myself, and due to that, I identify as possibly/probably trans, since I don't feel connection with my AAB gender. This is kinda the same kind of question than "are you atheist or theist". It's a "yes/no" type of question. There's no in-between, you either (fully) identify with your AAB gender or you don't. But as said, it's possible I too have biases I'm blind to 😄

  • @melaniemathias5885
    @melaniemathias5885 3 года назад +4

    Your voice is so calming and you have the loveliest face. I like that you're not yelling and screaming and doing edgy cuts etc. All your points are valid, logical and well put together and helped me voice some things I felt but didn't know how to put them eloquently.

  • @hunterm8516
    @hunterm8516 3 года назад +7

    ‘Don’t you want to be NORMAL??’ Triggered my fight or flight response

  • @freudiannipslip
    @freudiannipslip 3 года назад +10

    cis ppl get it together challenge
    (also love ur eyeshadow and general vibe!)

  • @ttaylor7381
    @ttaylor7381 3 года назад +136

    Hello, as a cis person I can confirm that I am very much Not Okay, but it has nothing to do with being called cis. I was actually relieved when I found out that there was a way to say that I was not trans without using the term "not trans". It's just so awkward to say.
    I appreciate your videos and love your music!

    • @Scifi4life
      @Scifi4life 2 года назад +1

      Are you ok?

    • @ttaylor7381
      @ttaylor7381 2 года назад +7

      @@Scifi4life Aw, thanks! I was actually in the hospital when I wrote that, lol, but I am better now. I'm as ok as anyone is considering the state of the world, and better than a lot of people ❤

    • @smokexsmoke99
      @smokexsmoke99 2 года назад +6

      Dude I call myself cis, it’s not offensive at all, these Transphobes just finding stupid reasons to be mad.

    • @gaviota-sibila1093
      @gaviota-sibila1093 Год назад

      @@smokexsmoke99 People calling them “cisgender” are invalidating their identities. Is that a stupid reason to be mad for?

    • @gaviota-sibila1093
      @gaviota-sibila1093 Год назад +1

      @@artypicklespvp7174 Cis doesn’t mean straight. Straight means heterosexual.
      A person who identifies as cisgender is a person who doesn’t pretend that they aren’t the sex that they are (ie a man who knows he’s a man and doesn’t pretend he’s a woman). They also believe that all people of one sex who don’t pretend to be the opposite sex have some unspecifiable thing in common with all people of the opposite sex who wish to be of their sex.

  • @ourportuguesehomestead
    @ourportuguesehomestead 3 года назад +16

    Wrote an essay once on Terfs for my Mlitt (which the prof loved), but I was just so angry the whole time writing it I never did anything else on the subject.
    (Did find an interesting corner of the internet on anti-natalism)

    • @DavyHulme
      @DavyHulme 3 года назад

      Did you trip over the Leeds Revolutionary Feminist Group?

  • @CopsHateMoe
    @CopsHateMoe 3 года назад +5

    I don’t think it’s okay to cisgender

  • @nebulathenebulous
    @nebulathenebulous 3 года назад +4

    thanks for the video! i came out to my mother last year, and she's been taking it pretty well, but there's been a recurring theme of "why can't people just be people?" in regards to labeling that has never sat well with me, and i haven't been able to articulate why. i feel like this video has helped me finally start figuring it out

    • @Amberthyme
      @Amberthyme 3 года назад +2

      This is probably a generational thing. The way they tried to empower kids, especially girls, in the 70s 80s 90s is to tell them you don’t need a label you can be anything you want to be! Just be yourself! Labling=pigeonhole=stuck. It’s really hard to shake that feeling that labels are bad.(Obviously it’s not working and that’s why people are going back to using labels) What’s different now is that folks are creating or claiming their own labels. The new labels are not coming from the patriarchal-straight-cis-normative group. Labels are a way of defining yourself and making connections.

  • @zachariahm.kemper7406
    @zachariahm.kemper7406 3 года назад +6

    As a cis guy I was really hoping they'd just flick off the camera right after saying the if you are a cis who felt hurt but this

    • @korviday
      @korviday  3 года назад +4

      hahahaahhagagaga

    • @zachariahm.kemper7406
      @zachariahm.kemper7406 3 года назад +2

      @@korviday yeah, my humor tends to be a bit brash, wasn't expecting you to see this comment though, either way hope you have a wonderful day

  • @dustind4694
    @dustind4694 3 года назад +6

    The older I get the more unnerving and bizarre I find the raw abundance of projection from dominant groups. I mean pick a hierarchy and you can find the dynamics you see here in cisgender discourse written all over the place.

  • @cinnamonroll96
    @cinnamonroll96 3 года назад +13

    As a cis person, I really do like that a word exists that can perfectly sum up what I am (gender and sex wise) without needing to describe it in more sentences. I don’t understand how other ppl have such a problem with that word. I mean no one would have ever protested if that word always had been used as an generic term (?) for describing that a person matches their gender identity with their sex assigned at birth. So how come they do when they see how this word is being established. Idk how to describe it but I hope it’s understandable what I mean.

    • @adventureswithfrickandfrack
      @adventureswithfrickandfrack 2 года назад +2

      I just had to ask what it meant then I was like ok so I am a cis female. Good to know.

    • @gaviota-sibila1093
      @gaviota-sibila1093 Год назад +1

      Sex is an inherent fact about one’s body, it’s not assigned. Even if I take it that you meant sex, most people don’t have a gender identity, so “cisgender” cannot describe them accurately.

    • @GayToBeHere
      @GayToBeHere Год назад

      @@gaviota-sibila1093 broke : cis people are 90% of the population
      woke : most people are agender and never cared to think about their gender identity

  • @divinitydoe
    @divinitydoe 3 года назад +3

    The deliberate framing of labels as they relate to oppression was really valuable here I think. Even being trans, I sometimes fail to think about the ways the language and terms we employ directly affect the ways were able to communicate about our struggles. Thanks Korv.

  • @WallebyDamned
    @WallebyDamned 3 года назад +6

    I personally am bothered by all these cistrenders. They are just fine with their assigned genders and assume everyone else is too? Pretty sketch to me, bruh.

    • @rattyeely
      @rattyeely 3 года назад +4

      I mean so many of them really are "cistrenders", they're just cis because everyone around them is and it seems like the thing to do

  • @FaiaHalo
    @FaiaHalo 3 года назад +5

    I'll watch this video on its entirety because I honestly LOVE and appreciate your content sooo much, but I HAVE to mention how BEAUTIFUL that mix of purples eyeshadow looks on you! Much love from Argentina ❤️

  • @cneer17
    @cneer17 3 года назад +3

    It’s fascinating to discuss the effects of language on oppression and thought control, both in general (fictional dystopias -and North Korea- using active control by limiting the breadth of thought, as well as different cultures having more/ fewer words for emotions and color variants, etc) and specifically in the realm of gender identity. Love the video!

  • @dqweerd
    @dqweerd 3 года назад +5

    I have so many cis friends, I'm not cisphobic :D

  • @redhammer9973
    @redhammer9973 3 года назад +9

    I am cisgender and I approve this message.

  • @audri8152
    @audri8152 3 года назад +32

    my mother had a temper tantrum when she learned she was cis-gendered a few years ago. having to explain to her the term means your gender identity is the same as your assigned gender at birth and isn't offensive was "fun." she thought it was a different gender entirely and kept screaming "but im female"

    • @SuperPrettyPink101
      @SuperPrettyPink101 3 года назад +4

      Dear god, the patience you must have. Assuming you *didn't* smack her upside the head, that is. 👏👏👏

    • @skyelouisekowe
      @skyelouisekowe 3 года назад +7

      Imagine calling yourself female

    • @fatcheeseburger100
      @fatcheeseburger100 Год назад +2

      She’s not cis she’s a normal woman

    • @gaviota-sibila1093
      @gaviota-sibila1093 Год назад +1

      Double standards much?
      my sister had a temper tantrum when I told her she was a woman a few years ago . having to explain to her the term means youre an adult human female and isn't offensive was " fun . " she thought she was a different gender entirely and kept screaming " but im agender"

    • @Scar-jg4bn
      @Scar-jg4bn Год назад

      ​@@skyelouisekowe yet you're a full grown man out here claiming to be a woman. 💀

  • @mistressofstones
    @mistressofstones 3 года назад +3

    I'm not sure if I'm cis or not but I'm certainly not normal

  • @dogpoet_
    @dogpoet_ 3 года назад +9

    very envious of your levels of swag rn

  • @eric.is.online
    @eric.is.online 3 года назад +3

    In an era that popularised the phrase 'new normal' it's hilariously myopic of anyone to expect that their lived experience is the default.

  • @Aster_Risk
    @Aster_Risk 3 года назад +3

    I thought it was really cool back when I first started seeing the use of cisgender or just cis. I am a cis person, and it gave me and others a shorthand term to use in conversation about gender without having to write out a whole sentence about what cisgender refers to. Many people who get upset at these terms are upset about having real conversations, and having to examine their place in things.

  • @rat-in-the-void
    @rat-in-the-void 3 года назад +4

    i'm cis gender but i wouldn't consider myself normal
    "trans" and "normal" aren't oposite words and i'm sorry on behalf of other cigender people who can't understand that accepting a label wouldn't change absolutely anything in their lives

    • @annas4843
      @annas4843 2 года назад

      Changes the whole notion of a fetus being being formed in the womb.
      Your sex is not assigned to you at birth, doctor does not decide whether you are male or female or fluid, it’s something observable, it’s something you run tests on lab and confirm it. Even if they open your grave they will know if you were male or female, it’s not assigned to you.
      What does it been woman identity? It is a set of stereotypes? Does a girl thinks “hmm… okay doctor assigned me female at birth but do I feel female enough? Do I like pink? Do I like nail polish? Do I like dresses?”
      If not you were “assigned” wrongly at birth?
      And if sex is something assigned at birth why you need medical intervention like surgery and life-long medication to alter your body?
      Doctor made a mistake and assigned you the wrong sex, having to correct it only on paper should be sufficient then

  • @QuestingRefuge
    @QuestingRefuge 3 года назад +11

    It is absolutely hilarious how people get caught up on these labels. See similar things with using words like Neurotypical or Abled as well.

  • @AlkaponX57
    @AlkaponX57 3 года назад +2

    Dear normal people and cis people too I guess

  • @M2R.
    @M2R. 3 года назад +6

    I have a feeling I’ll have to show this to my relatives one day lol, it was very good though so hopefully they’ll understand better after it!

  • @princenocturnal161
    @princenocturnal161 3 года назад +10

    i love your voice!

  • @jenliferfronester6429
    @jenliferfronester6429 3 года назад +3

    Okay but your eye makeup is amazing sir

  • @cursesandprayers
    @cursesandprayers 3 года назад +2

    "Don't you wanna be normal?" No. Hell no. Get that shit away from me.

  • @N0T504N0NYM0U5
    @N0T504N0NYM0U5 3 года назад +3

    No no no no, don't reveal our robot identities! I just convinced the captcha that I'm definitely absolutely 100% a person! D:

  • @EssenceOfThought
    @EssenceOfThought 3 года назад +27

    "Am I going too far? Am I gonna get a phone call saying 'Look, we've tolerated you until this point, but you're just being too mean to the cis people on the internet...'?"
    Hey, I told you about receiving that call in confidentiality! :P

  • @Sunny-zm9wr
    @Sunny-zm9wr 3 года назад +2

    if cis people are biological then trans people are cyborgs

  • @onijester56
    @onijester56 3 года назад +4

    I'm absolutely normal.
    * Is asexual.
    * Is pan-romantic.
    * Likes math.
    * Likes "tedious" things like paperwork.
    * Likes disco and 'Country' music and 'Industrial' music.
    * Mixes whiskey and rum and Jager and vodka and wine and energy drinks...regularly.
    * Is cat.
    Completely normal. ...Wait...

    • @DavyHulme
      @DavyHulme 3 года назад

      Yeah, apart from the wine - that's just wrong

  • @prexp9026
    @prexp9026 3 года назад +2

    Cis and Trans are normal. It's like saying strawberry cake and Raspberry cake, they're both cakes but one is Strawberry and the other Raspberry.

  • @jjthepikazard212
    @jjthepikazard212 3 года назад +2

    i might start saying biological people as a joke

  • @thedogskneecaps3292
    @thedogskneecaps3292 3 года назад +4

    lookin groovy sayin groovy things

  • @jackmunch6978
    @jackmunch6978 5 месяцев назад +2

    Trans is a necessary prefix because it refers to somebody who checks different boxes between the male and female sex: one person's identity and appearance is male, but their body and chromosomes are female. A case and a person where more explanation is needed. No such distinction is needed when somebody is fully male, or fully female. Man and woman already cover everything you need to know. Also, men and women don't need to define themselves against transgender people, or anybody else. Especially when the larger group encompasses well over 99% of the population. It's like having a term for people who don't collect stamps.

  • @SnooDoodle
    @SnooDoodle 3 года назад +2

    Holding up one of those fake lit-candle lamps and swaying it in the breeze.

  • @Emily-kx9xu
    @Emily-kx9xu 3 года назад +6

    im SAYING IT

  • @Parkady
    @Parkady 3 года назад +1

    killer video, also your eye makeup is absolutely fire

  • @purmello
    @purmello 3 года назад +1

    It's a good example of how people can be oppressed by deliberately restricting language. Removing words from a language restricts people's ability to talk about the things those words describe. They aren't unaware that removing "cisgender" from the lexicon makes it harder to talk about trans people. They're *counting on it.*

  • @benjisaac
    @benjisaac 3 года назад +2

    Hannah Gadsby has a good bit about this
    “you wrote the rules, read them”

  • @Mako_683
    @Mako_683 Год назад +2

    Its a simple matter of consent. Not about power or "oppression".
    We women did not consent to be called this descriptive term AND we also just dont want to. We dont owe anyone explanations as to why.
    If you're having sex with someone and they suddenly say "no, stop". Thats that. The person does not want to continue and you dont need an explanation. Its about consent from both sides.

  • @wmdkitty
    @wmdkitty 3 года назад +2

    Because the labels, in a way, helps us form our own communities.

  • @hedvikad133
    @hedvikad133 3 года назад +2

    Ok, this won't be a nuanced take, but sometimes using the term cisgender requires some effort for me. Firstly, because English is my second language. Secondly, because I use it only online, due to living in a very conservative environment. And lastly, because I don't have any emotional attachment to it. I simply use it for the benefit of others, but without identifying with it, so any other descriptor may slip out. But refusing to use it is downright shitty.

  • @yy-hj4br
    @yy-hj4br 3 года назад +2

    I would love if TERFs unironically sound like a genestealer cult from Warhammer 40k with their ridiculous terms.

  • @PersonalZombie
    @PersonalZombie 3 года назад +2

    To folks who are cis/het/white/neurotypical/ the list goes on- labels are a bad thing that no one should ever want to have. Anyone who has a label is lesser, and not worthy of being in "normal" society. To the rest of us, it can be a badge of honor. A way to identify with people like us. Which they hate even more because we took this label that they see as a reason for us to be thrown out and turned it into a thing of pride.

  • @watercloud-j8z
    @watercloud-j8z 3 года назад +3

    um i came back to this video just to listen to "cisgender" because its so good help

  • @JaabaaYup
    @JaabaaYup 3 года назад +1

    I wont be identfying as trans anymore, i liked the term dead robot too much

  • @user-ox7cj3bk7v
    @user-ox7cj3bk7v 3 года назад +2

    smh sick of being biological why cant i be a dead robot

  • @cpassmore5108
    @cpassmore5108 3 года назад +12

    you need to go outside.

  • @ibiteni0
    @ibiteni0 2 года назад +2

    i wasn’t hurt but the song is still incredible ty for it

  • @mouseydate
    @mouseydate 2 года назад +1

    Moral of this video: cis people can dish it out but they can't take it

  • @babysis6.059
    @babysis6.059 Год назад +1

    Nobody called me a "cis" woman when I became a woman, nobody needs to call me a "cis" woman now, I am a woman, period, anything else is offensive

  • @juliasb
    @juliasb Год назад +1

    the "okay to be cisgender" song is kind of a bop tbh

  • @sweetpeabee4983
    @sweetpeabee4983 3 года назад +1

    Lol terminology just makes things so much easier. After the last maybe...half a year? and my whole ✨Gender Identity Journey✨ it never occurred to me until discovering your channel that I should be on, finally came out as NB to my first person I know irl yesterday (!!!). Just uh...never explicitly used words like "trans", "cis", etc., 'cause I knew doing so would mean it'd go sour real quick lmao! Took a full _hour and a half_ of back and forth to explain without that vocabulary. 😂 While it did go okay, omg so exhausting!!

  • @somebody-xu4mz
    @somebody-xu4mz 3 года назад +2

    Dear cis people, if any of you are offended by the contents of this video, please explain how. I'm cis myself and cannot understand it

  • @weirdXone
    @weirdXone 3 года назад +2

    "It's not right
    But it's okay
    I'm gonna make it anyway"
    - Whitney Houston

  • @chuisii
    @chuisii 3 года назад +1

    I used to be offended by the word cisgender back when I was delusional and 12. Luckily, I accepted that I'm non binary and grew the fuck up.

  • @indicev
    @indicev 3 года назад +2

    Cisgenda, cisgenda🎶

  • @implodingsoftly
    @implodingsoftly 3 года назад +1

    Cocteau Twins lyric comes to mind, "Naming things is empowering..." It makes sense in the context of your video from every angle. Words matter and understanding has meaning. 🖤

    • @implodingsoftly
      @implodingsoftly 3 года назад

      Also please make another sims video. My need meter is red.

  • @gryrabild
    @gryrabild 3 года назад +5

    Omg I love cis people!! They’re so............. interesting!